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Speaker 1: Revere, Revere Dunks. Look at this now, tip to tip.

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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This this morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: It's Wednesday morning, Combat Time. We're in studio fuck your life.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, what half of your hosting due? My name

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Speaker 2: is Luke Thomas. I usually join you from the capital

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Speaker 2: of the Status News in Washington, d C. But today

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Speaker 2: we are in the bombshelter. Yes, we are back in studio.

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Speaker 2: That is Brian Campbell, the King of Connecticut, otherwise known

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Speaker 2: as BC.

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 4: BC.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm Beije. I'm happy to be here. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: get Chuck Minden Hall rolling in here a little bit later,

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Speaker 3: got some goodies to shoot, maybe to eat. It's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a wild day here, Luke. But I don't really

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Speaker 3: think I can go a second further without saying all

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Speaker 3: you folks who tuned in to MK documentary number seven

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Speaker 3: homeward By, like Luke, it's not about the number.

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Speaker 4: Right, I would hope not because they're not impressed.

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Speaker 3: It's about the impassioned feel. There are people, Luke who

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Speaker 3: have said, you know, I never dealt with your doc bullshit.

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Speaker 3: Before I thought this was all just bullshit. Right then

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Speaker 3: I tried, it's exactly what it is. I use it.

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Speaker 3: I used Doc seven as a gateway drug. And look

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Speaker 3: at me now, Luke, look at them now.

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Speaker 2: The Brian Campbell Masturbation Tour has finally come to an end.

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Speaker 3: No, it was a spectacular finish. Wouldn't you say?

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Speaker 4: It's well made? It's well made.

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Speaker 2: It's just a shame that that much work will go

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Speaker 2: into something that will do not a lot of views.

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Speaker 4: But what can you say? What can you say? People

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Speaker 4: like it? I do agree that people did like it.

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Speaker 4: They seem to really enjoy it.

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Speaker 3: You want to know why they liked it because Jake

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Speaker 3: edited is Jake Fon Amsterdam is a superhero. He one

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Speaker 3: day he'll go He'll be weird. He'll always be weird

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Speaker 3: and make you a little uncomfortable, even though he's like

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Speaker 3: make something epic and well. People will look back like,

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Speaker 3: oh that's where he like. Oh James Harden played for

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Speaker 3: the Warrior for the damn Okay, see yeah, I forgot

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Speaker 3: that ever happened.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, he definitely is way too docile to commit crimes.

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Speaker 4: But he definitely looks like a sex pass.

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Speaker 3: He definitely has passion crimes in his mind at all times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's just incapable of fulfilling them.

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Speaker 2: All Right, on today's show, let's see, we have a

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Speaker 2: lot to get to. There's a UFC this weekend, right,

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Speaker 2: they're back in action. We're not that far away from

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Speaker 2: UFC two eighty by the way, So.

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Speaker 4: That's also and that ship's floated just packed, i mean

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Speaker 4: top two.

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Speaker 3: Like the prison system.

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Speaker 4: That's an unfortunate way to.

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Speaker 3: Make it's overpopulated, you know, like yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a good thing. It's a good thing

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Speaker 2: that to eighty is as stacked as it is.

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Speaker 3: Yes, both will feature intimate context.

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Speaker 4: We get fired.

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Speaker 2: It's looking like that based on this, based on what

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing here, a lot of gummies in your Tommy.

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Speaker 3: There's not Luke, there's a natural like when you when

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Speaker 3: we see each other in the wild, there's a natural hole.

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Speaker 4: Each other gets run for me, like TJ.

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Speaker 3: Dill because you want to get on touchy and brotherly,

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Speaker 3: you know, like what you know, it's like, hey.

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Speaker 4: It's nice to see you. He's like, get the away

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Speaker 3: But Luke, you know an endorphin gets released when you

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Speaker 3: were together, that you know, But if it had an aroma,

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you about this as well, because we

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Speaker 2: are going to preview this. It's a very busy boxing

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Speaker 4: It is busy?

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Speaker 3: Well, look you, but the volume ranks that number of.

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Speaker 4: Fine, what would you give it? It's it's an eight

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Speaker 3: This is a good boxing little high, but it's not bad, dude.

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Speaker 3: We got Deontay back in a pay per view. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we've got the the all women's card that has like aggression,

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Speaker 3: undisputed chick hates chick matchups that's going on, and just

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Speaker 3: see that's a very domating way. Some of the Pump

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Speaker 4: And we got another one. What's the other one going?

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Speaker 4: Oh cam, which, no, what gives a flying f about it?

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to pretend that that that is now

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Speaker 3: the world, and Devin Hainey.

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know that's true. So we're gonna get to

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Speaker 2: all of that. Plus we have our top five we're

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Speaker 3: Let's go with times new Roman font size seven. Let's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great deal. No, it's a great deal.

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Speaker 2: But I'm just saying they got to make the graphic

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Speaker 4: That's there as well.

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Speaker 3: Real Quick Conspiracy Theory DOC seven was supposed to be

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Speaker 3: the doc that ended all docs. Yet it's so great

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Speaker 2: You know, the doc that saves the doc franchise is

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Speaker 3: Oh, stop being such a hard as you know you

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Speaker 4: If this one had done like one hundred k views,

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Speaker 3: Like I did have a serial killer vibe during the

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Speaker 4: The Yeah, that was very intention Jake just wouldn't get

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Speaker 4: the fuck out of my Lingers. He just fucking Lingers.

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Speaker 3: You know, j will show up in your hotel. Was like, yo,

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Speaker 2: And then the next question is, you know, what do

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Speaker 4: I'm like, dude, no one gives a fuck about them.

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Speaker 4: No one gives this.

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Speaker 3: Fuck Jake's moment and you're you're just disrobing.

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Speaker 2: Well, I did say he did a good job editing it,

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Speaker 3: Good job if you mean you know a treasure Luke Yeah, he.

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Speaker 2: Did a good job. It's it's well made. Certainly, it's

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Speaker 2: nutritional insurance. All right, BC, let us start with topic

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Speaker 2: number one if we can. We'll get to the boxing

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Speaker 2: a little bit later, but we do have UFC Fight Night.

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Speaker 2: I think it's UFC Vegas sixty two. In any case,

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Speaker 2: it's UFC Fight Night. Grasso versus a Roujao BC in

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Speaker 2: what is this fight really about?

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Speaker 3: This is about finding title contenders at one hundred and

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say a rougeo, Luke, am I just way

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Speaker 4: I don't know. My Portuguese is non existent, so you

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is the right stern test challenge to try

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Speaker 3: to prove that. But Luke, there's only a few rungs,

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Speaker 3: a few steps on that ladder to get to Valentina.

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Speaker 3: We're trying to figure out who's getting in line next

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Speaker 2: So is your argument that it is if not like,

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Speaker 4: So there's a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Of potential market massaging, so to speak. Is your belief

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Speaker 3: It would be four consecutive wins and in this division

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Speaker 3: that at times has been more than enough. And to

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Speaker 3: she's got a balance style. What do you look at,

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Speaker 3: it just I mean, Grosco needs to win this, but

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Speaker 3: how close do you think she is to being seen

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 4: Who the hell else are they going to give it to?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, now, granted, Vivian al Roujiao or al Rougeau is

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they feel that way about al

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Speaker 2: But in any case, if Grasso wins, would she be

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Speaker 2: seen as a legitimate threat to whatever Schevchenko was doing?

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Speaker 2: Don't I don't think so. I have a little hard

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Speaker 4: Up to Chevchenko.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if you're looking at Grasso's game. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's see what she shows us on Saturday, But if

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Speaker 2: you're looking at her game historically speaking, it's not clear

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Speaker 3: Shan specifically trying to find doubt in Valentina and Tyler

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Speaker 3: Santos created a good deal of it last fight. You're

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Speaker 2: Doesn't have the same acclaim. By the way, to your

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Speaker 3: I see her Instagram once.

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Speaker 4: A while, but I bet you do. I bet you do, creep.

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Speaker 3: That's like to take it right there with no proof.

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Speaker 4: No fair.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't match up to.

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Speaker 4: All I see is her training. That's it.

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Speaker 2: I don't see any timeline for a return. I don't

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Speaker 2: We should be clear. This card overall has some value,

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Speaker 3: I wanted to do that the other day, say oh,

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Speaker 3: If the fight got put in the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 4: The myth. The myth? What's the myth?

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Speaker 3: He's not like the fight was great, it's a Hall

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Speaker 4: Okay, but his contributions have been added to.

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Speaker 4: How do you size this up?

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Speaker 3: that again he did turn back having one three or four.

438
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Speaker 3: But it's does he have one more to surprise you, Luke?

439
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Speaker 3: In terms of who's coming or going, this would be

440
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Speaker 3: you think, in theory Martinez his fight.

441
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Speaker 4: But do you know the betting odds.

442
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Speaker 2: I can pull them up here very quickly if you

443
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Speaker 2: give me a second. So the betting odds are apparently, wow,

444
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Speaker 2: cups Swanson plus.

445
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Speaker 4: One seventy five.

446
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Speaker 2: That's where I thought they'd Martinez. Really and by the way,

447
00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,800
Speaker 2: we should know this is, if not his debut, it's

448
00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 2: certainly his. This is a bantamweight fight. Obviously he's made

449
00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,840
Speaker 2: his career at one forty five, so so.

450
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Speaker 3: Look, this is late career. Let's just try something new.

451
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,359
Speaker 3: Let's go for it. Cups Swanson is going to achieve

452
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Speaker 3: and potentially giving you that theater.

453
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Speaker 4: But Luke, does he have an intimate in a new.

454
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Speaker 3: Weight class to be more than just the you know,

455
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Speaker 3: the old name guard in the gate here so to speak, Luke.

456
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Speaker 4: I don't know a kind of how old is cups

457
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Speaker 4: thirty eight thirty.

458
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Speaker 3: But he has authored so many classics really up and down,

459
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Speaker 3: I mean just giving us a fun asque career an

460
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Speaker 3: elite throughout multiple eras, right, I mean, you know in

461
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Speaker 3: the title contending picture a few times he's.

462
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Speaker 2: Fought some of the very best guys of our generation

463
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Speaker 2: as well, so that should be noted.

464
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Speaker 3: And he did appear in Doc three in the MK

465
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Speaker 3: series Cup Swanson. Yeah, the Mohegan Sun. He was cornering,

466
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Speaker 3: he was helping to corner the Spaniard one Letta. Yes,

467
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Speaker 3: I did.

468
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Speaker 4: He also run from you?

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he has that famous scene edit.

470
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Speaker 4: I thought that was like billishell who ran from you?

471
00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:03,840
Speaker 3: DJ ran from us? But then you were like, yo, Cub,

472
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Speaker 3: thanks for coming out and he and he just like

473
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Speaker 3: blew off and was like, oh that this fuck. I

474
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Speaker 3: think the scenes were not related. I think Jake took committit.

475
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Speaker 4: I have a pretty good relationship with Cub. I'd be

476
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Speaker 4: surprised by that anyway.

477
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Speaker 3: It's rare to have a fighter that you turn onto it,

478
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Speaker 3: you know, by the end of their career. It's rare.

479
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,520
Speaker 3: It's rare what you have, these like these beefs with

480
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Speaker 3: fighters you.

481
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Speaker 2: Know, I don't have beefs with fighters. I just have

482
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Speaker 2: certain rules about self respect. But in any case, Jonathan

483
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Speaker 2: Martinez an interesting guy, a ton of volume from what

484
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Speaker 2: he does. Overall, twenty eight years old. Again, he's on

485
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Speaker 2: an interesting win streak. He'd beat a guy local to

486
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Speaker 2: my area, although he's natively from Georgia, zeviad Laza ish Villi.

487
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Speaker 2: I think he's out of Kaisen Mma, out of northern Virginia.

488
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Speaker 2: Then he beat Alejandro Peedez, then he beat Vince Morales,

489
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Speaker 2: and now he's taken on Cub Swanson. I don't really

490
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Speaker 2: know what to make of this contest. Cubs always had

491
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Speaker 2: really good power at one forty five. Is that going

492
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Speaker 2: to translate down to one thirty five? How will it

493
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Speaker 2: affect his cardio? It's just a fifteen minute con test.

494
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Speaker 2: But there's just a lot of unknowns to this.

495
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Speaker 3: It's a good fight. But would you agree with me

496
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Speaker 3: that it even if we don't know if it's gonna

497
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Speaker 3: end up being the comain event according to Wikipedia, right

498
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Speaker 3: now it's in that slot. Yeah, the fight after the

499
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Speaker 3: fight before it, excuse me, right, is better? Is the

500
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Speaker 3: arguably the best fight in the card.

501
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Speaker 4: Right, So the main card value. I would agree with you.

502
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think the main events are very important fight,

503
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Speaker 2: but to your point, this one's right up there. Another

504
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 2: flyaway fight, this time on the men's side. Ascar Askarov

505
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,920
Speaker 2: returns taken on Brandon raw dog Royville. That's a real thing,

506
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,800
Speaker 2: Rouville BC, what would you say? A kind of go

507
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Speaker 2: forward grappler, puts himself in bad positions, can scramble his

508
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 2: ass off, tons of good submissions, takes a lot of punches,

509
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 2: takes a lot of damage against Askarov, who has been there,

510
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Speaker 2: been there, had some good wins. He beat Pantoja, who

511
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Speaker 2: probably will be the alternate.

512
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Speaker 3: For has a draw with Morena Andreno as well.

513
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Speaker 2: And by the way, he had that lost to Kai

514
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Speaker 2: Kar of France, which is somewhat disputed.

515
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Speaker 3: So not only is it disputed it but we found

516
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Speaker 3: out that he came back too soon. He came back

517
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Speaker 3: too soon for that fight. So so that was ASKARV. Let's

518
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Speaker 3: start for a second on Brandon Rerouville. Here, one of

519
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 3: these days for Brandon Royvil, it's going to kick in

520
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 3: and he's going to figure out how to get the

521
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Speaker 3: best out of himself with some restraint. Until he figures

522
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Speaker 3: that out, He's going to be who he is, which

523
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Speaker 3: is raw dog and make hella fun fights because of

524
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Speaker 3: his willingness, as you mentioned, Luke to put himself in

525
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Speaker 3: dangerous situations and sometimes take heavy damage. I think Luke,

526
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Speaker 3: he's a little bit too addicted to trying to please

527
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Speaker 3: the fans. You hear that that dilemma come up in

528
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Speaker 3: him in the post fight interviews a lot. Does he

529
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Speaker 3: have the ability to fight for a title in this

530
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Speaker 3: division and be one of the elites. I think yes,

531
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Speaker 3: he is a dual threat. He's aggressive and if he

532
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Speaker 3: goes after it, he though at this level against somebody

533
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Speaker 3: as skilled as Askarov is going to need to produce.

534
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Speaker 3: Am I right or wrong? Luke Brandon Royvel is going to

535
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Speaker 3: need to produce that version of himself that he's teased

536
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Speaker 3: a but hasn't yet found. And even though these two

537
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Speaker 3: have the potential to make a crazy, fun fight that's

538
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Speaker 3: still high level, I need a little bit over strainth

539
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Speaker 3: from Royvel and I think if he does, he can

540
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Speaker 3: win fights like this and Askarov. You might think, oh,

541
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Speaker 3: I just saw him lose to car France, But Luke,

542
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,719
Speaker 3: we found out afterwards there was an inn came back

543
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 3: a little bit too soon. He kind of just went forward.

544
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Speaker 3: He still almost won if he had the right full

545
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Speaker 3: training camp that he needed. This is as tough a

546
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Speaker 3: fight as you can have in this division. That's not

547
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Speaker 3: for the championship. True or false. Brandon Royvalt needs to

548
00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 3: ditch the raw dog and figure out how to be

549
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: his best, and he can win this fight if he.

550
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Speaker 4: Does well here. This is always the eternal question.

551
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Speaker 2: Do you want to do what Johnny Walker did, which

552
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Speaker 2: is completely overhaul your fight style to be a little

553
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Speaker 2: bit more actually, to be a lot more frankly rational

554
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Speaker 2: and managing risk in that way, or do you want

555
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Speaker 2: to dance with the one that brought you there. I

556
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: tend to think that they overcorrected Johnny Walker, though obviously

557
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Speaker 2: he's had a little bit better of success recently. With

558
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Speaker 2: a guy like raw Dog, what you want is what

559
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Speaker 2: is he really good at scrambling subs?

560
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Speaker 4: He has the lights out guillotine things like that.

561
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Speaker 3: But he can scrap it on the feed too. That's

562
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Speaker 3: a problem a.

563
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Speaker 2: Little bit because I agree that he has to dial

564
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Speaker 2: it back. I don't think he needs to switch out

565
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Speaker 2: what he has and against the guy like Askarov, who

566
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 2: was a very good wrestler who can find his way

567
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Speaker 2: to the back as well.

568
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Speaker 4: A this should be exciting and be to your point.

569
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Speaker 2: You just can't spend rounds trying to fight Askarov if

570
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Speaker 2: he is routinely able to find your back. You must

571
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: be able to set the tone more aggressively and forthrightly

572
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 2: from the beginning of the fight, not react to what

573
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: he's doing. And I just feel like one of the

574
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: things that sets Brendan Royville back is not so much

575
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: overall ability, but choices strategy, and against a guy like Askarov,

576
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: he is very unforgiving of poor strategy.

577
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Speaker 4: It's interesting.

578
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Speaker 3: It's like I'm Rouville and you're Askarov in terms of

579
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Speaker 3: the comparisons to our journalistic careers to their fighting careers.

580
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Speaker 4: You're a raw dog.

581
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, if I could show you, I mean,

582
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 3: separate maybe from the raw dog side of it, you know,

583
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: if I could just take it a little more serious

584
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Speaker 3: and get out of my own way sometimes, Luke, who

585
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Speaker 3: could I be right? And you on the other side,

586
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: were waiting for Ascar Askrov to finally have his moment,

587
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Speaker 3: and I think for some people they've been waiting for

588
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 3: that for Luke Thomas and you're having it the stem

589
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Speaker 3: cases having it. But my whole point is this, Look,

590
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Speaker 3: if I think Askrov is going to have the need

591
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Speaker 3: to prove everybody that the Kai Kar France fight was like,

592
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Speaker 3: you know, seventy five percent him, but he kind of

593
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 3: dropped the ball a bit. He tried his best to

594
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Speaker 3: hold it together. Luke, this is a future jam being

595
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Speaker 3: in front of us Askar Askrov Seriously.

596
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Speaker 4: He fights, mean he could be.

597
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: He is technically brilliant and there really isn't a huge

598
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: hole in his game. He can pretty much do it all.

599
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 3: He can wrestle you and control the fight that way

600
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: if he needs to. I mean he fights angry and

601
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 3: mean he's mission threat.

602
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: I would say that his sub threat could be better

603
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Speaker 2: with his brown and pound to.

604
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Speaker 4: Be his jab.

605
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 3: He's got a very good jab.

606
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Speaker 2: I would say that, like he's got a little obviously

607
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: very different, but he's got a little bit of that

608
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Speaker 2: Mackenzie durning him where he'll kind of hold position a

609
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: little bit rather than kind of just laying serious punishment

610
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: to his opponent then using that to more aggressively move

611
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Speaker 2: the fight to a finish. I will say that holds

612
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Speaker 2: him back a little bit, but but he is a

613
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Speaker 2: very talented fighter.

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Speaker 3: All right, Pantosia is the backup for the fourth meeting

615
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Speaker 3: between Figaredo and uh Moreno, do you think he gets

616
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 3: the next title shot?

617
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Speaker 4: Then?

618
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Speaker 3: Would would the winner of this fight on Saturday, which

619
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Speaker 3: again I think is the best fight in the card,

620
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Speaker 3: would they sort of be number two in line and

621
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Speaker 3: the picture? I think Pantojo you may have kay car

622
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Speaker 3: France on the comeback though that.

623
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the funny part. Askarov has a win over Pantojia,

624
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Speaker 2: not super recent, I think twenty nineteen something like that,

625
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 2: But I think Pantoja is the guy that they have

626
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: locked up because his last win over.

627
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm establishing that he's next. So the winner of

628
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 3: Saturday's fight is sort of like gonna need one more

629
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Speaker 3: step on the journey. Yes, maybe it's maybe that is

630
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Speaker 3: against a coming off of a lost kay car France.

631
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Speaker 2: Or yes, they could do the KaiA car France fight

632
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Speaker 2: again if they wanted to, they might.

633
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Speaker 4: Do you think that? Yeah? I think that's right.

634
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like, do they find a way

635
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: and to make the Pantoja rematch? But if I'm Pantoja,

636
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 2: because if fucking way, I take that fight.

637
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Speaker 3: I freuvi wins. That's four, he'll have one four or five.

638
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: And even though Askarv is coming off a loss, he

639
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: has beaten the or been in equally with these top names.

640
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 3: That Luke, this I mean, he'll probably need two wins,

641
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Speaker 3: but I'm telling you he's coming the hell on and

642
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: I think you can see the holes in his loss

643
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Speaker 3: to car France.

644
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Speaker 4: This guy's not the.

645
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Speaker 2: Car France because Carl Franz has a loss to Rouville

646
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: as well, and then Royvale lost Tuna row to Mareno

647
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Speaker 2: and Pantoja.

648
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Speaker 4: Fair enough, those a two.

649
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 3: They've all fought each other. They all make great fights.

650
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 2: In the sense that he's got wins over Bontarine and Schnell

651
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: won by split one by he finished him in the

652
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: first round with that was a danger match.

653
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Speaker 4: Now, yeah, I think you're right.

654
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 2: I think the Askarov, if or the winner of this,

655
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 2: has to has to run it back with Kara France again.

656
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: I mean, if you've been waiting on Askrov, this is

657
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 3: the all in moment. This is his If he's going

658
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 3: to be that guy, he's going to win this, Luke.

659
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: He's gonna and he's gonna go on to big things.

660
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 3: But there's no guarantee because the raw dog, he's just

661
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 3: he's just one ingreedyent off and he's going to figure

662
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 3: this thing out.

663
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 2: It might be Saturday who hates condoms more than herschel Walker.

664
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 4: I genuinely don't know.

665
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know, right, I mean, that guy is like, yo,

666
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: fuck condoms, all right? You see another fight on this card,

667
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 2: kind of getting slept on. I mean, this guy at

668
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: one time was right there at the top of the division,

669
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: and now he is barely hanging on. Half I Alasunsao,

670
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: who's a very very good fighter, though obviously much older,

671
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: now taking on Victor Henry. Victor Henry his fight against again.

672
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure my Portuguese is horrible, Hanny. How any Barcellos

673
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: Harry pronounces.

674
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: This now, honey Barcellos.

675
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 4: Everybody knows that. Yeah, it's not really how you pronounce it,

676
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 4: I'm sure.

677
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 2: But half al sonso out of by the way, out of.

678
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 4: Georgia, not too far from where I live. He's forty BC,

679
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 4: forty years old at one hundred and thirty five pounds.

680
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 4: Here's where he's been.

681
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: A loss to Ricue Simone, a lost to Cody Garbrant, which,

682
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: by the way, was all the way back in twenty twenty,

683
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: I lost to Cory Sandhagen, and I lost to Marlon Moriich.

684
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 2: He lost all of those except the Sandhagen one via stoppage.

685
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 2: I believe, yes, that's correct. Victor Henry very underrated guy.

686
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 4: What do you think b seeing?

687
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 3: Well, you know, if a Sonsow loses a fifth in row,

688
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: it's over. So he is fighting for his job right here. Basically,

689
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 3: how good is Henry?

690
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 4: Though?

691
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 3: Should this be easy for him?

692
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: So? I didn't think much of Henry necessarily before, but

693
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 2: then in the Barcelos fight, he looked pretty good. To

694
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I just how old is that guy?

695
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: I think Victor Henry's not that old. I could be wrong.

696
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: He's pretty old to thirty five. Still, he looked at

697
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: he had a little bit of peppin and step in

698
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: his last fight. And I just tell you, as Onsao,

699
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: you know, listen, you cannot beat the fight game, you

700
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: can only survive it. And I just feel like he's

701
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 2: at the very tail end of that survival chapter. Henry

702
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: probably had just has a little bit more, I think,

703
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 2: a little bit better speed. At their peak, us as

704
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: Sal reached much further heights to be clear, but he

705
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: got a.

706
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 3: Gift in the first TJ fight though. Let's be fair as.

707
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: Su Yeah yeah, still, I mean he was of that ILK,

708
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 2: he was of the top three, top four space.

709
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 3: Would you say he's a poor man's RDA. No, Hey,

710
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: that's not a disrespectful Ardias.

711
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 4: They don't have the same kind of games relatively similar.

712
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: Can linger for a long time and be e lite

713
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 3: give people tough ass fights.

714
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but RDA is I think thirty seven and still

715
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: putting it on people.

716
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 3: Rdias, we should They shouldn't build a statue for him

717
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 3: when his career is over.

718
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 4: They should. They should.

719
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 3: Then Deonta can make out with that statue.

720
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 2: By the way, BC also on this card Nate Diaz

721
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: member of the team whatever you want to call him,

722
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Nick Maximov.

723
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: Who got put to sleep right light.

724
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, taken on Jacob Malcom malcoun is the training Partners,

725
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: slash friend or whatever of Robert Whitaker. Malcoun having a

726
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: tough fight in his last contest. I believe that was

727
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 2: at the Brendan Allen fight or was that a different one. Yes,

728
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 2: it was the Brendan Allen fight where he was able

729
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: to get control but not do much damage. With it,

730
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: and so the judges didn't really reward it, which I

731
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: thought was the right call. Actually, he is pretty good

732
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: about getting to the takedown, pushing the opponents of the

733
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: fence line, and getting on top, but he just didn't

734
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: have a whole lot of steam on anything else.

735
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 3: In his two nine accent is is Mint Jacob Malcom, No, No, No, Maximov, Maxlov.

736
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 3: The problem with Maximov is he's a very good grappler.

737
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: You have to give him that, but from what we've

738
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: seen in the octagon, has not much else just has that.

739
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: And again, so it's both guys who are kind of

740
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: positioned grapplers. One of them is going to have to

741
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: raise the level of what they've shown, I think, to

742
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: get it on the other one.

743
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm saying.

744
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm not going to sit here and say this is

745
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 3: a good card, but there's a few party favors on

746
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: this undercard. Mike Jackson's back.

747
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 2: Dude, Mike Jackson, can you if I would have told

748
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: you Mike Jackson is going to far out last CM

749
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: Punk in the UFC before that fight was bookedould you believe.

750
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: You told me that?

751
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: After riding CM Punk's back and getting ripped by Dana

752
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 3: and told he'll never do anything in his life that

753
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: he's not on a UFC card. That's great to see.

754
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: One time got barbecue with Mike Jackson in Uh. Where

755
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 4: were we were? We in Austin, Texas. No, we were

756
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: in Houston, Texas.

757
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 2: I was there for the Kimbo Data fight, one of

758
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 2: the illustrious moments in Elator history and the.

759
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 3: First MMA match with the heart attack role. First one

760
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: to have cardiac wrestle loses.

761
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, by the way, I went to Adrian

762
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: Peterson's gym for that. Do you remember you didn't go

763
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: to that fight, but there was. They had an open

764
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: workout and it was the It was the co owned

765
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: gym of who was the left tackle who played for

766
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: DC who left, Trent Williams. I think Trent Williams and

767
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: Adrian Peterson opened up a gym in Houston which was

768
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: one of the nicest fucking gyms I'd ever seen Anyway,

769
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: down a five thousand hit like pads for maybe thirty seconds,

770
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: ed most I broke into.

771
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 3: It cigarette words. Yeah, do you know that fight? Luke? I?

772
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 3: I was working at ESPN.

773
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: As an MMA editor, and I did.

774
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 3: We did a ton of coverage. Ahead of that, I

775
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: wrote this giant feature on Belletre's fascination with carnival matchmaking

776
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: and old guy fights and how it's feeling. I mean,

777
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 3: the ratings were ridiculous during that stretch, right, it was absurd. Yes,

778
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 3: do you know that you quote tweeted my story and

779
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: wrote essential reading?

780
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: Did that really? Yeah?

781
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 3: That was like a damn Maybe I made it in

782
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: this field of MMA where people think, who's this boxing guy?

783
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: Luke Thomas? You know, I mean the question gave me

784
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: that by the way you were Do you know how

785
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: many people DM me on the regular that are like, dude,

786
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: Luke blocked me because I made a joke about my

787
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: own wife, Like, people are coming at me left and right.

788
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: About how see you are under the impression that no

789
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: one ever DMS me about you. You should not be

790
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: under that impression. People routinely DM me. Let me finish

791
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: to lobby complaints about you.

792
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: It's ada in a white like reaction.

793
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: I just don't tell you about them. Would you like

794
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: me to start inventoring them.

795
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: On the shots over the meat? Though the core of the.

796
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: I don't tolerate fuck heads on social media? Why should anyone?

797
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: This is an airing of the grievances. I went right

798
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: for the grievance. I'm not saying that you can't have

799
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: like as people. You can throw the coach out, but

800
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: you gotta have a.

801
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: People remarkably oversell the necessity of their company. I don't.

802
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 4: I don't quite understand why most people.

803
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 3: Their corporation or their physical company, either either through through

804
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: social media or in person.

805
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: Not everyone needs to interact with everyone else. And if

806
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: I don't find your shit humorous, and I you know,

807
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: usually what I've started doing this now to be I

808
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: have a little bit more justice, I'll mute them first,

809
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: and then if they're like repeat offenders, then I usually.

810
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: So many people are my friends, Luke, Okay.

811
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 4: Well your friends are fucking idiots. What do you want

812
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: me to tell you?

813
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 3: My friends are also our audience.

814
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: I tried. I will say this.

815
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 2: If I block someone and then they message me and

816
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 2: they're like, oh I watch MCN and they reference something

817
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: from the show.

818
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 4: I almost always unblocked, Okay, almost all.

819
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have a long list. It's going to be

820
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: like the Who's that Boxer? The Argentine Guy and the

821
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: Showtime Triple Header and Jim Gray's like, all right, enough,

822
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 3: you can't keep reading this or Martinez, Yeah yeah, Martinez like,

823
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: hold on, I got to thank my plumb.

824
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: I will say this.

825
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 2: I used to do a bit on my radio show

826
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: called Twitter Court, where someone I blocked would call in

827
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 2: and then argue their case to be unblocked, and then

828
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: the staff would vote whether to unblow.

829
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: You should have people send in videos of their situation.

830
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: Their argument will put them up here, and then you,

831
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: as you know, with the with the wig on, will

832
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: be like, you.

833
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: Know, people think there's something disruptive with the heads. People

834
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: think it's something disruptible about blocking people. You people don't

835
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: block other people enough. That's the issue. The issue is

836
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: not that I block. The issue is that you guys

837
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: tolerate morons in your orbit.

838
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 4: I do not.

839
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 3: I do not, all right, But what does that say

840
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 3: about you?

841
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 4: That I don't suffer fools?

842
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: Gladly doesn't mean you don't suffer though.

843
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the world is broken, it is.

844
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: It is something to think about.

845
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: It is a fall in place. I certainly agree with that.

846
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 4: All right. I think that's it for this card. Tetsuro

847
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 4: Tyra is on this car brings it. He's on here he.

848
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: Does take it on Lucas Alexander to some fun fights there,

849
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: but that's really about it in terms of any There

850
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: is the Dusco Todorovich versus Jordan Wright fight.

851
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he might be fighting for his job Dusco.

852
00:33:58,960 --> 00:33:59,959
Speaker 3: He's lost like three or four.

853
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's really about it. That's most of the

854
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: gems on that from that card.

855
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 3: Hey, what happened to Chrome Gracie?

856
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 4: I don't know. Cup has fought him in twenty nineteen.

857
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: That was a fun fight, right, Chron decided to be

858
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: a just.

859
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 4: Walking straight into him and then Cup had to kind

860
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 4: of stick and move quite literally.

861
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 3: His Chrome was a zombie in that fight.

862
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: Krone has some of the best even in mma, some

863
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 2: of the best mma jiu jitsu I've ever seen.

864
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: I don't I don't really know, Hope.

865
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: I don't disease. That would be like like lu gereg.

866
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: Right, that's a different kind of Chron, that's cro Hn.

867
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: I believe that's gonna be painful.

868
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 3: Any any MK fans on the crone, you got our

869
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: love and.

870
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: Respect, right, I think if you have the Krone, you

871
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 2: have to spend time on the throne.

872
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 4: On the throw.

873
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're looking for that crown. It's not coming unfortunately.

874
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's go topic number two. This is what

875
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: I asked you see about the top of the show.

876
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: There is a ton of boxing, a ton of boxing

877
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: this weekend, some of it great, some of it not

878
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: so great. They've got the order messed up here. I

879
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 2: want to switch the order if I can. Can we

880
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: start with Deontay. I actually think this is at least

881
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: in terms of in North America casual fan public perception,

882
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 2: this is the biggest fight for sure, because Devin Haney

883
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: is a much better fighter, but he's fighting all the

884
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 2: way in Australia again. And then of course Clarissa's Shields

885
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: is probably the best American fighter competing this weekend, but

886
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 2: she's over there in the UK doing this. At least

887
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: the state side, Deontay is your biggest attraction. He's taken

888
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: on Robert Helenius PC. I have seen people say that Helenius,

889
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 2: who's like six seven, he's this big finished dude. By

890
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: the way, former training partner of Deontay Wilder. I have

891
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 2: heard people say that Helenius sucks. I really disagree. He

892
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: has his limits, He's probably gonna get knocked out.

893
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 4: He does not suck. That is a good fighter. This

894
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 4: would be well.

895
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 3: I just felt, okay, we're got just a straight up

896
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 3: fella sleep right do.

897
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 4: They literally they're either on their phones or just lounge.

898
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 3: What do you think that kid was doing last night?

899
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 4: Nothing good, nothing good crimes?

900
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he should switch to uppers, right, yeah.

901
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're going to steal car stereos all night,

902
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: you got to make sure you have your uh uh.

903
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 4: Here's the deal.

904
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: Robert Helenius, in the totality of his pro run has

905
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: given us both meaning he came on like a future

906
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: heavyweight champion in waiting here, six foot seven, big time power.

907
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 3: But dude, he lost to some guys you don't lose to,

908
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 3: and he lost to them by knockout yo hand to Haupis.

909
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 3: I mean, we got to a point with him where

910
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 3: it just looked like, Okay, this guy's a bust, but

911
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 3: he's on a bit of a lake career renaissance run.

912
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,280
Speaker 3: And the two consecutive knockout defeats have then unbeaten Adam

913
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 3: Kovnotski really opened our eyes to exactly who he still

914
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 3: could be. I mean, look, it's not that many years

915
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: ago that Helnius got knocked up by Gerald Washington. So

916
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: like there's levels in the heavyweight game. He had slipped down,

917
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 3: but he does appear to be back. So while Helenius

918
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: is in some ways the perfect opponent for Wilder to

919
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: potentially reinvigorate his fan base and his own really want

920
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 3: and passion. And we've got an interview with Deontay Wilder

921
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: you can catch on YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat

922
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: from last week that you know, wild I said, I

923
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna come back at all. It took me realizing

924
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 3: that I'm beloved, that people actually have been touched by

925
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: my career and find me inspirational, you know, to get

926
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: my flowers as he said, and get his statue and

927
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: find out oh crap. So Helenius is the perfect opponent

928
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: for that, and that they're sparring partners in the past,

929
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 3: they know each other. But to act like Helenius isn't

930
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: capable in this fight of winning, it would be a

931
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 3: little bit crazy. He has come on of late, he's

932
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 3: still six to seven, and he's still got a hammer. Also,

933
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 3: this I ask you a question, so would you say

934
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 3: like this kind of perfect matchmaking?

935
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: I like this fight for a lot of reasons. One

936
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 2: of which is in defending Helenius. I've watched both of

937
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: those Kovnaschki fights. He ruined him.

938
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 4: Kovnati has not been the same sense of is that

939
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: a fair assessment?

940
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: Yes?

941
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: That is so to this late.

942
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: Renaissance for speaking about Plus, these guys know each other

943
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: a little bit. I read a stat and again I

944
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: don't have his resume right in front of me, BC,

945
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: so tell me if I'm wrong.

946
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: Uh.

947
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 2: No one has ever decisioned Deontay Wilder. No one has

948
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: ever made it to the end and had the judges

949
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: vote for him if he had the draw with Fury, Yes,

950
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: the first time. So like, here's why I bring this up,

951
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 2: because you could make a.

952
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 3: Case the fear he got it in the trilogy, right, well,

953
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 3: if you're knock himut r very knocked him out.

954
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, so in the second one and the third one.

955
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: But this is the point I wanted to make. It's

956
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: like you everyone's like, oh, well, Deontay's got all these

957
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: he's got all these weaknesses, which is true.

958
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 4: It's true.

959
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: And by the way, Deontay will punt rounds at times. Yes,

960
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: Luis Ortiz, you could argue, had Deontay figured out the

961
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: fucking problem is it doesn't matter because all he has

962
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 2: to do is unleash one of those nuclear right hands

963
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: and he closes the whole show. So for me, I

964
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 2: like this fight because it's interesting to see what Deontay

965
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 2: has left, what is going to look like. It's winnable

966
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: for him. I suspect he will win, but I think

967
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 2: that the early middle portions of this could get a

968
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: little bit interesting.

969
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: No. Yeah, especially offensively for Helenius. He could actually have

970
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: big moments here, and if he commits to a power

971
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 3: heavy boxing style behind the jab, he could win rounds

972
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 3: over Wilder for a stretch in the same way to

973
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 3: some degree that Luis Artiz does. But ultimately, when you're picking,

974
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 3: and we'll do this with the predictions, you are going

975
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: to come down to comparing one intangible that ultimately may

976
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: say the most into who wins. And look, you have

977
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: to look at chin as that because even though Deontay

978
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: Wilder in the beginning of his career, we thought he

979
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 3: had a flashy chin because guys like Eric Molino were

980
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: wobbling him with a jab, what we didn't realize is

981
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: that there's a difference. You can have a chin that

982
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: puts you on the canvas Felix Trinidad and so many

983
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 3: of his big wins on the rise was knocked down

984
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: by flash knockouts. But you can also have a backbone

985
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: and a will that gets you back up and keep fighting.

986
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's got more will than Deontay Wilder

987
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: when it's when it's been properly cultivated like it was

988
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 3: for the third Fury fight. Helenius, does he have that

989
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: same chin and will, Well, we did see him get

990
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 3: knocked out by Johanto Hoppis and Gerald Washington, two guys

991
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: that got to the title level. Deontay Wilder knocked them

992
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 3: both out. But if that's the sort of common comparison

993
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 3: that they'll fall on, while there should be the favorite,

994
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: and in some ways he should win. But anytime you're

995
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: gonna get two six foot seven heavyweights who can box

996
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: a little bit and can punch a lot, it's gonna

997
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: be fun. And don't forget we got a good comin event.

998
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: Well before we get to that last thing on Wilder Hellnius,

999
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: it just seems to me, and again if you disagree

1000
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: by all means to step in, it seems to me

1001
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: that they're trying to set up a Wilder versus Andy

1002
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: Ruiz fight. That's the direction. It looks like PBC is

1003
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 2: probably going at heavyweight. And I have to say, if

1004
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: we get that Wilder versus Ruiz, not mad at that.

1005
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: BC not mad at that at all. Although Fox has

1006
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: seemingly been I don't even know if Fox will be in

1007
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 3: the PBC world, you know, come at the end of

1008
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: this year. But it seems like Fox has been slow

1009
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 3: playing to build to that for like two years now.

1010
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 3: But here's what's going to be most interesting about the

1011
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: Tyson Fury situation, which is related to this. And he

1012
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 3: might fight Derek Dasa a third time and to stay

1013
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 3: busy December third, and will that be the setup to

1014
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 3: get Fury into Usik. I don't know, because here's the deal.

1015
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 3: While Wilder versus Ruiz is the perfect PBC scenario and

1016
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 3: could benefit us in the long run as well for

1017
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 3: boxing fans. Though, if Wilder wins by knockout in this comeback,

1018
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: and if Fury isn't pointing himself in that moment in

1019
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: the right direction of Usik, there is the chance, because

1020
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 3: Usik is a promotional and network free agent, that we

1021
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 3: could potentially do Usik versus wild There for three of

1022
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: the four belts, don't wild. There's talked about it in

1023
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: the interviews in the build up and again with that

1024
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 3: free agency, and you know, Usik and Fury haven't been

1025
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: really all that happy with each other by the way

1026
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 3: their fight talks kind of fell apart. I know Usik

1027
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: has an injury that's delayed, but you get my point,

1028
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: that's not out of play for the first half of

1029
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: next year as well as much as we all want

1030
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 3: to need this four belt, you know, on Disputed Summit finally, So.

1031
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 2: Keep that to your point about the co main event,

1032
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 2: Caleb Plant is going to take on Anthony Durell Darrel

1033
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 2: thirty seven years of age, the Dog.

1034
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,240
Speaker 3: The Dog.

1035
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 2: He had a nice win, and I think on that

1036
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: the Canelo Plant card he had that uppercut just beautiful,

1037
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,839
Speaker 2: not stop the victory, but you know, hasn't had a

1038
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: solid win in a long time. I think that is

1039
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 2: pretty fair to say against a against a name opponent,

1040
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: Caleb Plant, what do you want to say? He beat

1041
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: Uska Taggy, that was nice, Okay, that was something that

1042
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 2: he beat, true acts, that was something he beat Mike Lee,

1043
00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 2: but that doesn't mean shit. But he gave Nanello what

1044
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: would you say about the Canelo fight retrospect, he probably

1045
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 2: took a couple of rounds from Canelo. He made Canelo

1046
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: work for it. He should easily win this one. But

1047
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: I guess what is hold on? I don't know about

1048
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: easily win.

1049
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. Darrell's old, he's a former two

1050
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: time champion, but he's still got something in there. Okay, Yeah,

1051
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: So if you're saying should should Plant out box him,

1052
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 3: I guess in theory looking at to be clear.

1053
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: He's a minus twelve hundred favorite lord.

1054
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I guess. I guess to what you're saying

1055
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,439
Speaker 3: is what's the most likely played a script? It's Kayleb

1056
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 3: Plant winning a you know, comfortable decision. Sure, but I

1057
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 3: don't think it takes away the potential intrigue of this fight.

1058
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 3: And if you're asking me, who is Caleb Plant right now?

1059
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 3: I think he proved a lot in the march he

1060
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: took to get to the Canelo fight. I think he

1061
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: proved to me at least he shout out the best

1062
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: he could, right, he stayed in that fight a while.

1063
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: I think he gave Canelo the best fight he could. Yeah,

1064
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 4: gave it.

1065
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 3: You know, he stuck to his strengths gave Kanela a

1066
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: hard opportunity. Now I think there is still something left

1067
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: to prove for him. Caleb Plant to come out and

1068
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: remind everybody that I'm not just going to be the

1069
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: guy who lost to Canelo. I'm going to go back

1070
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 3: and try to regain titles. Because when you look at

1071
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 3: the title picture right now, and this is where it's

1072
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 3: geting juicy at one sixty eight, okay, and it could

1073
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: potentially be juicier. We don't know if Canelo is going

1074
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 3: to go in the direction of chasing the bev All

1075
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 3: fight with his own at one seventy five and then

1076
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 3: maybe fighting better beav or potentially coming back to the

1077
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: PBC bubble and trying to fight the biggest names available

1078
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: to him at one sixty eight. Those big names are

1079
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: David Benavitez, who has unbeaten and a champion twice, Jamal Charlow,

1080
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 3: who's currently a champion at middleweight, but we've been hearing

1081
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 3: whispers that he might move up, and the winner of

1082
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: this one, and if the winner of this one Plant

1083
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 3: versus Durell's Kayleb Plant, we've suddenly got a bunch of

1084
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: players that can come together to make some very fun

1085
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 3: fights with legitimate stakes for the super middleweight title picture.

1086
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: Canelo's got all four belts right now, but with the

1087
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: layoff coming up with his injury, I'm not sure all

1088
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 3: four are going to strip him, Luke, because some of

1089
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 3: these belt holders love having canelover as as their champion.

1090
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of them

1091
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: go up and become, you know, vacant titles. This could

1092
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: be fun. Kayleb Plant needs this win. He should get it,

1093
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 3: to your point, but I do like this fight, and

1094
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: I do like what Kayleb Plant might look like matched

1095
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: up against Benavidez or Charlie.

1096
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 2: The Benefits fights the one I want to see for

1097
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: a lot of reasons. One, it's a great fight too.

1098
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: They have bad blood, like legitimate bad blood, so I

1099
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 2: would love to see that content.

1100
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: Like Caleb Plant has bad blood with everybody he's about

1101
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: to fight, is not true?

1102
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 4: Dude, he has a chip on his shoulder, does he not? Attitude? Yeah?

1103
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: And he's not apologetic about that, right yeah, So he

1104
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 3: just puts off this kind of like when you're walking

1105
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: your dog and it comes across another dog.

1106
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 4: It's just like tense, right.

1107
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: And I've noticed here, Like I wouldn't say that he's

1108
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: mean to the boxing media, that's not quite right. But

1109
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: he keeps everyone at a real distance, like he doesn't

1110
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: let anyone in. He's very gard kept.

1111
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: Us at a closer one. I tried to get him

1112
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 3: on that couch, Lucorr.

1113
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we wanted him for room servers diary. We got

1114
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: the big old what do you call? I get a no,

1115
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: but it just kind of fizzled. But that's okay. Also

1116
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 2: on this card, be see this is the closest one

1117
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 2: on there in terms of the odds. Now, where would

1118
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: you rank this Gary Russell. So it's Gary Antonio Russell,

1119
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 2: not Gary Antwine Russell, not Gary Russell Junior. It's yet

1120
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: another Gary Russell taking on from Washington, DC area, taking

1121
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: on Emmanuel Rodriguez.

1122
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the bantam weight version. This is the

1123
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 3: Gary Antonio Russell at bantam waite. So he's good, he's good,

1124
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: he can box. The difference is this the middle brother,

1125
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 3: Gary Antoine Russell. He's at one forty, he's a puncher.

1126
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 3: He's a big looking George forman looking dude in his

1127
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: last fight, you know, which is different of course than

1128
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,919
Speaker 3: Gary Russell Junior, the oldest brother who's kind of become

1129
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: their trainer in that regard, who is a slickster on

1130
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: a different level. But yeah, Gary Antonio Russell, uh, is

1131
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,839
Speaker 3: he as good as the other two. I don't think

1132
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 3: he's proven that yet, But I don't think he's fully

1133
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: had the chance to prove exactly who he is.

1134
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 4: That's a good Opportunity's good.

1135
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: And then Frank Sanchez versus Carlos not bad.

1136
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 4: Frank Sanchez is can box. He can box.

1137
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: That's you know, he's not it's not musty TV. Okay,

1138
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do the thing where we put

1139
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: the women last. I'm going to go to them next here.

1140
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: Now, what's kind of in my mind about what he

1141
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: puts baby in the corner.

1142
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: Well, in all fairness to them, Shields versus Marshall was

1143
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 2: supposed to happen, but the Queen died that week and

1144
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: so the Queen of England and the fight was going

1145
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 2: to be in the UK. Yeah, she bought the farm,

1146
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 2: The old lady bought the farm.

1147
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,360
Speaker 3: She's like, finally the women are going to get their

1148
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: close up. She's like, no, you're not big.

1149
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: Well, that was the thing that fight had it taken

1150
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: place that weekend, would have been the crown jewel of

1151
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: boxing that weekend. Now you've got Wilder here Stateside, you've

1152
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 2: got Hani and Cambosis doing what they're going to do

1153
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: in Australia. This one's kind of taking a bit of

1154
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: a back seat.

1155
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,240
Speaker 3: But it's going to be on in the afternoon on Sarah,

1156
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: So that's two.

1157
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: Thirty pm start. I want to be very clear about that.

1158
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: Clarissa Shields taking on Savannah Marshall. Marshall has a win

1159
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 2: over her from I think the amateurs, and so this

1160
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: is something of a rematch. It's been ugly of the

1161
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: build up, not quite like you know, throwing objects at

1162
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: each other at the way in Tyme ugly, but it's

1163
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: not been pretty. To be clear, this is going.

1164
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 4: To be fun. It's fun.

1165
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 3: So both the main and the co maain are gonna

1166
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 3: be really fun. Let's stay with the main for a second.

1167
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 3: Is Clarissa Shields right now?

1168
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 4: Oh the way, it's for the undisputed title at one sixty.

1169
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: These ladies are yes one sixty, which you know Clarisa

1170
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: Shields already thought who we thought was the best threat

1171
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 3: to her at one sixty In Christina Hammer on showtime

1172
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 3: and she dominated her. Now we're fighting for all four

1173
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 3: belts here, and the Savannah Marshall part of it is

1174
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 3: so cool. Chloris is unbeaten as a pro. She has

1175
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 3: one loss on it as an amateur and a career

1176
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 3: in which he won two gold medals and that was

1177
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 3: to this fighter. And Savannah Marshall can talk. A little

1178
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 3: bit comes from the UK power, something that Gloria Shields

1179
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 3: has not been able to show as a pro in

1180
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,319
Speaker 3: the two minute rounds. She's been a a she's been

1181
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 3: an aggressive fighter, She's been a clinical boxer when needed.

1182
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 3: I mean, look, she boxed circles around Christina Hammer. There's

1183
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: potential here because Colorisa Shields is so great that that

1184
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: may happen again. But I think the spiciness of their

1185
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: backstory and the fact that Savannah Marshall has a puncher's

1186
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: chance and is willing to sit on that puncher's chance

1187
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 3: and use it. This could be some fun theater. Where

1188
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: would you put Clorisa Shields right now in that women's

1189
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 3: pound for pound voting that also includes Katie Taylor Serrano,

1190
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: Sonissa Strada, you know MICHAELA.

1191
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 4: Mayer as well.

1192
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: Bombgardner talking about Mayor because the winner of Mayor Bombgarner

1193
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: is for what three belts? Yes, and they could. It's

1194
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 2: a fine, that's an even juicier that fight is at

1195
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty pounds. But you have both women

1196
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: already saying if they win, they want a shot at

1197
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: Katie Taylor.

1198
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: But I guess the setup of my question is to

1199
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 3: say this, it's not wouldn't it would not be wrong

1200
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 3: to have Cloisa Shields as the pump for pound.

1201
00:47:59,680 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1202
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: I have a hard time putting her above Katie Taylor,

1203
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: have a hard time even Amanda Serrano, depending on how

1204
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 2: you want to look at a Soerrano in that Katie

1205
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 2: Taylor fight, that's not her best weight class, and she

1206
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: still gave Katie Taylor, and they both.

1207
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 3: Thought better competition than her.

1208
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1209
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 3: Shields fought everybody available, She's moved around in Waite.

1210
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 4: Shields is at worst, at worst top.

1211
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: Three pounds per pound in the women's destrin I think

1212
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 2: you can argue one, you could argue one.

1213
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying at worst she's three.

1214
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 3: Does that tie in at all in your eyes to

1215
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: like she went to PFL coursa Shields kind of because

1216
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: she wasn't getting the love in boxing, or the opportunities

1217
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 3: or the money. I feel like the American public embraced

1218
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 3: her during the Olympics, but as a pro kind of

1219
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 3: soured on her a bit, and I don't think that's

1220
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: necessarily fair. Coursa's outspoken, she's tough as nails. She tells

1221
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 3: you what she's gonna do. She calls herself the gloat.

1222
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 3: Whether you like that that letter combination or not, Luke,

1223
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 3: do you feel like American boxing fans, though, like, are

1224
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: embracing her or pushing her away at this point?

1225
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 4: They've definitely not embraced her.

1226
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: They've definitely not and it's not for a lack of

1227
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 2: effort on her part, and you know, to be clear,

1228
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 2: from what I can tell, it seems like it's a

1229
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 2: pretty big fight in the UK, So she's going where

1230
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 2: the fight is being received. But obviously your opponent is British,

1231
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: but she's going where the fight is being received in

1232
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,919
Speaker 2: a very public and highly supported way. I don't quite

1233
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: understand the disconnect. It's hard for any I think female

1234
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: American boxer right now to break through. Mikaela Mayor, who's

1235
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: in the co main event, is also making a run out.

1236
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 2: But I mean BC just to be candid, if I

1237
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: asked you, like, hey, who are some female MMA fighters

1238
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 2: who broke through really became casual fan stars, I could

1239
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: name a few. I don't know if there's that many.

1240
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 2: Sense Laila Ali Benest really broken through. So we're making

1241
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: it about a referendum on Clarissa when it's really it's

1242
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: really the entire hasn't broken through.

1243
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 3: It even with Jake Paul's push, Like that's the first

1244
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 3: time she got first time, she's getting some of what

1245
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 3: she deserves. And but look at what another country can

1246
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 3: do with somebody like Katie Taylor, I mean in the

1247
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: Ireland and the UK heavily supported front page News. I

1248
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: mean she is. Yeah, but look, this is a very

1249
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 3: a good fight. I think if Shields wins.

1250
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: The odds on this one. By the way, this is

1251
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 2: the boxing odds. Clarissa at just a minus one thirty

1252
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: Marshall last one oh five Ca Soper tight.

1253
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 3: This could tell me this could be if you had

1254
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 3: told me instead that Clarissa was like minus seven hundred,

1255
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 3: we still would be talking. Hey, this is still a

1256
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 3: musty fight. The other the other fighters got power. There's

1257
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 3: a spack story there's a lot at stake with the

1258
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 3: four belts, but that those odds show you that the

1259
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 3: Sharps aren't one hundred percent sure that Clarissa out boxes

1260
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 3: her without taking damage.

1261
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 4: That's right.

1262
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 3: I mean, Clarisa's been knocked down before, but I think

1263
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,399
Speaker 3: overall she's shown that she's got a good chint.

1264
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 2: Yes, and I you know, I would be very surprised

1265
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 2: if Shields put her away. That would that would very

1266
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 2: much surprise me. But I do think of the two,

1267
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 2: she's the better boxer. So we'll see how that all

1268
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 2: plays out. Now, you mentioned MICHAELA. May Are taking on

1269
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: Alicia Bumgarner. This is gonna be at one thirty for

1270
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: three of the belts. The winner of this has already said, well,

1271
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 2: that's the winner of this. But both ladies have already

1272
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,959
Speaker 2: said if they become the winner, they want a shot

1273
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 2: at Katie Taylor. Get in line, because I think a

1274
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 2: lot of people do. May Or sitting at a minus

1275
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 2: two to eighty, Bumgardner sitting at plus two fifteen, what's

1276
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 2: on the line. I mean I sort of set up

1277
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: the stakes here, Yeah, anything more to it. By the way,

1278
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: a heavy grudge match here as well.

1279
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 3: That's the anything more is the heavy grudge match element.

1280
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 3: You look with three or four titles at one thirty,

1281
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: it's a very legitimate about These are two names in

1282
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 3: the women's boxing game. But the elevated level of interest

1283
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 3: part of that has become because Mikayla Mayer is separator

1284
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 3: herself and saying that like I am in this Katie

1285
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: Taylor discussion, I am. You know, Look, she's gotten a

1286
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 3: great push by ESPN and Top Rank who have said, look,

1287
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: this is somebody legitimate that you should tune into, and

1288
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 3: she's backed it up. Did you see that Fight of

1289
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: the Year contender shared last year with the I forgot

1290
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 3: that the I.

1291
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 4: Don't have a resume in front of me, but I

1292
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: mean that was.

1293
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: Just a ten round war. Mikayla Mary is known more

1294
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: with coach Al Mitchell and the Olympic background as a

1295
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: pure boxer, but she proved in that fight that she

1296
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 3: could stand in there and trade and Luke, I think

1297
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 3: she's lived up to every opportunity she's gotten, improved to

1298
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 3: us in front of us that she's a legit pound

1299
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 3: for pound talent. And now you've got an opponent in

1300
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: Bombgardener who's been talking about her for a long time.

1301
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,959
Speaker 3: I think with this fight being delayed because of the queen,

1302
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: it's actually only made this Cole main event fight even

1303
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 3: more of a of a tight package of like, I've

1304
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: got to see this. This is good, it's going to

1305
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 3: be intense. They do not like each other. The staredowns.

1306
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 3: The staredowns at every press event have been wild. Do

1307
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: you see the social media videos they go back and

1308
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 3: forth of like the scale with the miss.

1309
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: Under one where bum Gunner was like threatening to eat

1310
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 4: or ass or something like that.

1311
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gotten pretty crazy. Yeah, I would have to

1312
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 3: say that, don't miss this. It's it's an important fight,

1313
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: and if the winner's entering the Katie Taylor conversation, then

1314
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 3: it's going to be a big event. But I think

1315
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: when you get two people, look, it's still catnip to me, Luke.

1316
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: You get two people in a professional fight who I

1317
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: can tell really really don't like each other, and it's

1318
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 3: separate from the titles and the stakes and the placement

1319
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: on the cart. It's just more about I gotta beat

1320
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 3: that motherfucker across from me. That's my language right there.

1321
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: That's why I got into this game, Luke.

1322
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: I like it too, I like it too, but not

1323
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: the expensive technique. But the good news is we don't

1324
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 2: have to worry about that.

1325
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: Here you could have technical look the best brawls or

1326
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: the chess ones.

1327
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 4: I agree, I agree, I agree.

1328
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: So I think you're going to get two good fights

1329
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 2: again that will start from London at two thirty pm

1330
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 2: in the East. Finally, last, but not least, although maybe

1331
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: least this will air. I think they're just going to

1332
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 2: put the main event on ESPN. The entire card will

1333
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 2: air on ESPN plus.

1334
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1335
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 3: The rest of the card is very austy sent I

1336
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 3: like the Maloney brothers, but it's very osty center.

1337
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: Go Jason Andrew Maloney on this. But Devin Haney, who

1338
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: is now the undisputed champion at one hundred and thirty five,

1339
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 2: excuse me taking on George Cambosis. He's a minus one

1340
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: thousand favorite. Cambosis at plus six hundred BC.

1341
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:23,919
Speaker 4: I was trying.

1342
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 2: I was tweeting about this a day or two ago,

1343
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: and I was like, dude, there's no buzz for this fight,

1344
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 2: and I'm told, but look at the replies. It's a

1345
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 2: bunch of Aussies and they're all saying, yeah, there's no

1346
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 2: buzz here either, which is to be for the show. Okay,

1347
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: so there's a couple of reasons for that one. The

1348
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 2: first fight was not a thriller. It was not that thrilling.

1349
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,720
Speaker 3: We're only here because it's a mandatory contract navigated rematch

1350
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: and everyone involved is making a lot of money off this,

1351
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 3: Devin Haney was.

1352
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,959
Speaker 4: Just That's one reason.

1353
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: But the fight was not that great too, Devin Haney

1354
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 2: is it appeared to be much better than Cambosis and

1355
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,239
Speaker 2: had a jab slash clinching strategy to get the job done.

1356
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 3: Nobody turns the lights off better in the game today,

1357
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 3: maybe besides Shaker Stevenson. Meaning they got a threat in

1358
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: front of them and they're just gonna by doing that,

1359
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 3: Floyd like, you're turning off the entertainment value. But can

1360
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 3: just flip that switch. Haney at distance did that in

1361
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: the first fight. Is just like you're not advancing, I'm

1362
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 3: not gonna be there, you know.

1363
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 4: Is there any reason to think Cambosis can win?

1364
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,720
Speaker 2: Okay, on the surface side of the way, he dropped

1365
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 2: the nickname Emperor, went back to whatever the other one was.

1366
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: On the surface, no, but his saving grace has to

1367
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 3: come from the fact that you can't tell me go

1368
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: back and watch that first fight. You can't tell me

1369
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: that part of that performance from Cambosis was I got

1370
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 3: the rematch in my back pocket. So in this fight

1371
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 3: Fight one, I'm gonna try my best to be an

1372
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 3: aggressive boxer and try to win that way and find

1373
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 3: an opening. The opening was never there, but Luke he also,

1374
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 3: I don't think pressed for that opening, and maybe that's

1375
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: the luxury of having been the A side from the

1376
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 3: negotiation standpoint he got. Look when Cambosis upset too Femo,

1377
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: he became the power player in this division that has

1378
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,400
Speaker 3: way bigger stars than him, Tank Ryan Garcia, you know,

1379
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 3: but they're all orbiting in different networks and promotions and

1380
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 3: spots in their career. He was the go between that

1381
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 3: was like, send your offers, I'll fight whoever you want.

1382
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 3: It turned out to be Haney. It was a creative

1383
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: way for Hani and his team, who had just finished

1384
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: their Eddie Hearn Matchroom deal, just finished their association with

1385
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 3: the Zone, also looking to make the next leap in

1386
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 3: their trend progression, they created this two fight series where

1387
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 3: cam Bosas is the A side. Both fights would be

1388
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: in Australia. Cam Bosis would have the rematch clause, and

1389
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 3: again everybody would make a ton of money. That's what

1390
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 3: it took for Haney to take this step and get

1391
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 3: on ESPN. He signed a three fight deal, so this

1392
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 3: rematch is fight two of that three fight deal. But

1393
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: I don't think this rematch is about this rematch. This

1394
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 3: rematch is about we get to tune in on ESPN

1395
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: and see this guy Haney who's one of the you

1396
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,719
Speaker 3: know who's maybe got next and is one of the

1397
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 3: ten best in the game right now. And I think

1398
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 3: it's about where are we going next? And Haney will

1399
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 3: tell you the best fight for me at one thirty

1400
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: five that will give me the equal level of commercial

1401
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 3: and critical respect is Vasili Lomachenko, the former champion. Lomachenko

1402
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 3: is going to be back on October twenty ninth against

1403
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: I'm beating Jermaine Ortiz, his former sparring partner, and a

1404
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: you know, get back. It's a challenge, but coming back

1405
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: from the conflict in the Ukraine, we're building toward and

1406
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 3: you have to believe ESPN and top rank is as well.

1407
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: We're building towards Haney versus Lomachenko, which would be a

1408
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: hell of a fight. I think the only reason why

1409
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:14,040
Speaker 3: I'm saying watch this rematch is because I don't think

1410
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: Cambosis went for broke like he did against Teyo Femo.

1411
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 3: And now there's no excuses. You got the rematch, They're

1412
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 3: coming to your house, you're getting paid a lot of

1413
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 3: Money's let the bullets go, right, Hainey says, more aggressive

1414
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: Cambosis will be even easier to beat because I'll see

1415
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 3: all the openings coming and I'll take advantage of them.

1416
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 3: He's like the first fight, I had to kind of

1417
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 3: find the openings because Cambosis was so defensive.

1418
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 4: Would you agree with me? Though?

1419
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: It's long ramble, but the point of it is that

1420
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: kim Bosis knew he had a rematch. Why get knocked

1421
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: out in the first one? You got to build through

1422
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 3: the second one, right, Yeah?

1423
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: Although I'm told if ticket sales aren't great for the

1424
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: second one either, they shouldn't be.

1425
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 3: Look, okay, look were we wrong on overlooking Kimbos the way?

1426
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 4: Yes?

1427
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: Yes, I gotta say all the auses that were in

1428
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: omntions before the first Hani fight, you' all have gone

1429
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 2: ye road to silence.

1430
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 4: There's true.

1431
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 3: NI guys need to understand were we Americans that were, Yeah,

1432
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 3: we were because did overlook it because it was that

1433
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 3: process for Tao Femo and the purse bid and Triller

1434
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: and then just one like it was a nightmare. We

1435
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: just wanted that fight over with, as did most fans.

1436
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 3: Did Cambosis take his Buster Douglas opportunity and hit a

1437
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 3: home run? Yes, you cannot tell me that was a

1438
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: not compromise one hundred percent, Femo Lopus.

1439
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 4: It just wasn't.

1440
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 3: We found out afterwards he had that heart condition and

1441
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: he kind of knew there was a problem and he

1442
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 3: went brawling in round one. It's crazy that fight went

1443
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 3: the distance. Cambosis won it. He deserved getting this two

1444
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: fight deal. But there she doesn't deserve to have buzz

1445
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 3: after the way the first fight went. But you know,

1446
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: you can argue, say a BC, well, if he gets

1447
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: knocked out in the first fight, really nobody will care

1448
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: about the second. That might also be true to look, Okay,

1449
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: by the way.

1450
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 2: I'm watching Mikey rearrange the rundown in real time here.

1451
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't know why he's doing that.

1452
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: But okay, well, because he's the producer. Yeah, in real

1453
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: time while I'm reading it.

1454
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 3: It's not like he's getting up in the videos, you know,

1455
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: and come to death row. Yeah, okay, so it's tough

1456
00:57:58,520 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 3: to say, Well, the interest of this fight is see

1457
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 3: one of the best fight. But look, if he stops Cambosis,

1458
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 3: this is hani. And that's the thing about Hany. He's

1459
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: not afraid to be boring or defensive if he has to, right,

1460
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 3: He's not trying to entertain you that way. He told

1461
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: me the money in the pay per view matchups are

1462
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 3: gonna come if I just keep winning. Will Cambos has

1463
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 3: crossed that line and trying to win hard enough to

1464
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 3: give us something to watch and potentially give Haney a

1465
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 3: chance to.

1466
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 4: Leave in the latter part of the fight, not early

1467
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: in the latter part of the fight.

1468
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: I do think he's gonna put a little bit more

1469
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 2: of his foot to the gas pedal this time.

1470
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 3: I just.

1471
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 4: He was thoroughly outclassed the first time. Thoroughly.

1472
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 3: It was in a stadium the first time. Now they're

1473
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 3: at Rod Laver Arena, so tennis. Yeah, so we're downgrading here.

1474
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 3: But man, I mean, you got do you give Team

1475
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 3: Haney a lot of credit for how they've carried themselves. Like,

1476
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: let me remind you, Devin Haney was a phenom. He

1477
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: said he knew about age twelve that he was going

1478
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 3: to become one of the greatest fighters of all time.

1479
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: So him and his dad said, we're not doing the

1480
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 3: amateur Olympic route. We're turna pro at seventeen and we're

1481
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: going to go fight in Mexico. About ten times and

1482
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 3: then they had every promoter, including Fluid May where they're

1483
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 3: lining up, trying to get their services. They were on

1484
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 3: shillbox for a while and some main events. Then they

1485
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 3: went after the Eddie Hern and his own money. Now

1486
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 3: they've pivoted to ESPN to fight the big names. After

1487
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 3: a potential Lomachenko fight, they could be in position to

1488
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 3: be a free agent goal wherever they want. I don't

1489
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 3: think Bill haney dad trainer, manager, gets enough credit in this.

1490
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 2: And by the way, only got to the fight the

1491
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: day of the fight the first time around because of

1492
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 2: some visa issues, some kind of travel complications, so you know.

1493
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 3: Like he's calling his own shots. In a way, he's

1494
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: using the promotion system, but he is calling his own shots.

1495
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 4: And by the way, I saw a lot of we

1496
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 4: should talk about this for just a second.

1497
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: I saw a lot of discussion I think there was

1498
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,240
Speaker 2: one from the UFC fighter Laarone Murphy, but he's hardly alone.

1499
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: There's been a bunch of this being like, oh well,

1500
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: boxing can't get it together. Mmat more regularly puts out

1501
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: the best versus best boxing is you know this, that

1502
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: and the other, and I'm always like, guys, let's let's

1503
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 2: let's let's play a little game here.

1504
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 4: Why why are there better fights?

1505
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 2: First of all, the disparity between how many of the

1506
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: top guys in UFC fight each other versus how many

1507
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 2: in boxing is grossly overstated. That's the first problem. But

1508
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 2: let's just assume, for the sake of argument, is it

1509
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: magic that it happens better in UFC. Why is it

1510
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 2: that it happens more regularly in MMA?

1511
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 4: It's a right.

1512
01:00:12,200 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, it's very easy to make better fights

1513
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 2: if you have a monopoly that has eighty plus percent

1514
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 2: of the industry under onerous contracts, it's not fucking magic, right.

1515
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: I always try to make this point to people who

1516
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: shit on boxing. If you don't like boxing, don't watch it.

1517
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 2: It's not going to hurt my feelings, I promise. But

1518
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: what you must understand is you as the consumer and

1519
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: This is why people don't like it. You have to

1520
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 2: pay a little bit of attax in a combat sport,

1521
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: but in that particular combat sport, the fighters have more

1522
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,920
Speaker 2: discretion and control over their careers. To me, if you

1523
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,320
Speaker 2: are going to be sacrificing blood, sweat, and potentially treasure

1524
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: in the way that someone does in combat sports, they

1525
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 2: should have that control. Yes, it's a cost that the

1526
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: consumer at times has to pay, but it's a cost

1527
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 2: that you actually, in real terms, you actually do want

1528
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: that in the industry. You want a degree of equitability

1529
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: at the expense of the consumer. It's a very hard

1530
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 2: sell to them. They're never going to accept it, and

1531
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,320
Speaker 2: I understand that, but it's not magic. It's not an accident.

1532
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 2: You have to realize it is very easy, at least

1533
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: relatively speaking, to make fights if you have the vast

1534
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: majority of the talent under contracts from which they largely

1535
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: cannot escape.

1536
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 4: Like this argument, like well boxing has really got to

1537
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 4: get a ship.

1538
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 2: No, No, you have now given these fighters certain amounts

1539
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: of rights and privileges that they are not afforded another sport,

1540
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: and then they exercise them.

1541
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 4: And look at what he needs.

1542
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: The difference barely if you do it as definitely as

1543
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 3: Haney's done. I mean, obviously, Floyd's said a different standard,

1544
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: and a lot of people have tried to live up

1545
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 3: even even parts of that. But you know, somebody like

1546
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: Dravonte is calling his own shots for the large degree

1547
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: and has become a huge ratings and pay per view

1548
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: magnet because of that pay per view slowly, but you.

1549
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 4: Get my point.

1550
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 3: But I got to give Handy credit, Like it's not

1551
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 3: like he didn't have to earn it. He had to

1552
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 3: go to Australia twice in fighting guy he didn't even

1553
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 3: want to. But he's now under just BEEDA champion. He's

1554
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 3: only twenty three, he's unbeaten. He could be fighting Lomachenko

1555
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: after this. He's getting paid, and he says, in my era,

1556
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 3: I want to face the best.

1557
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 4: I want this to be one of.

1558
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 3: Those eras where everybody faces each other. He's actually pivoting

1559
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: from promoter to promoter to make that happen. I got

1560
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 3: to give that respect. Final question on Haiti to you

1561
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 3: is this, is there anybody one forty and lower that

1562
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 3: you think could be a betting favorite against Devan Haney

1563
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: right now? At one one forty or lower. He's at

1564
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: one thirty five right now, is there anybody at one

1565
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: forty or lower that you would take?

1566
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 2: You know, Well, so they've got this potential fight between

1567
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 2: Lopez and Peedraza.

1568
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 4: If Lopez wins that, I could see him at one

1569
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: forty being potentially favored.

1570
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 3: I they still think Devin would be fair.

1571
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 4: He might be favored, but it would be close.

1572
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 3: I think the only Shakur maybe just totally.

1573
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 2: I will move on from this last thing on boxing

1574
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: for me from this. The next time someone says something

1575
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 2: like wow, boxing just can't make the fights on time

1576
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah blah blah, just keep asking them

1577
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: why until you get an answer.

1578
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is you'll say why.

1579
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: They'll be like, well, boxing is blah blah blah, there's bureaucracy. Okay,

1580
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 2: why while we get job but because they just shoot

1581
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 2: itself in the foot? Okay, why keep asking them why?

1582
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 2: Or you can play the game on the reverse side

1583
01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: with MMA, Well, m just does it better?

1584
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 4: Why?

1585
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 2: And what you ultimately can only come back to, It's

1586
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 2: the only answer you can come back to is the

1587
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 2: way in which the industry is arranged at the expense

1588
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: of the fighter or pro fighter.

1589
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 4: That's the fucking difference.

1590
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: That's why you get it the way it looks the

1591
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: way orry, that's why you get it the way that

1592
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 2: it looks. Yes, there are problems with the with the

1593
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: sanctioning bodies and how much they can manipulate how fights

1594
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: get made, who they make a mandatory, how much that

1595
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,439
Speaker 2: bureaucracy clocks it up. There are there's plenty of fair

1596
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: criticisms to make. But when you're gonna make the wire

1597
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 2: fights easier to make an mma versus boxing argument, keep

1598
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 2: asking that person why until they give you a not

1599
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: a bullshit boxing shoots itself in the foot some stupid metaphor,

1600
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 2: Ask them very explicitly how that comes to be. That's

1601
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 2: the that's the only conversation you should be having.

1602
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: Are you attracted to women from Eastern European backgrounds who

1603
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 3: live in factory towns and we're hot for a season,

1604
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 3: But now, wait tables and look back at their own

1605
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: misress at this.

1606
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't call that my wheelhouse. Why it seems kind

1607
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:16,080
Speaker 2: of trifling? Why because they have titty tattoos?

1608
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 4: All right?

1609
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:20,920
Speaker 3: All right, that's a fair answer, right, yeah, yeah, you

1610
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,280
Speaker 3: know your your game worked, all right?

1611
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 4: All right?

1612
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: So let's do this quick hitters BC ty to e

1613
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: Vasa for topic number three is gonna be taken on

1614
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 2: Sergei Pavlovich at UFC Orlando.

1615
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 4: By the way, this card is baller.

1616
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 2: This is Kevin Holland versus Stephen Thompson, Derek Brunson versus

1617
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 2: the Joker Jack Erman like RDA versus Brian Barberina.

1618
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 4: Angela Hill.

1619
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 3: It's a weird fight. That's a weird ass.

1620
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 4: About this one.

1621
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: Angela Hill with a very tough fight taking on Emily Ducatti.

1622
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 2: Tracy Cortez versus Amanda he Boss. That's a big one

1623
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 2: as well. Claiy Geda versus Hot Sauce Scott's Scott Holtzman.

1624
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 3: Hold on, don't don't go too fast? Did you say

1625
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 3: Tracey Court has his fight and he Boss? Yes, forgot

1626
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 3: that was even a thing that is that is true.

1627
01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 4: That should be more my reelhouse than yours.

1628
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 2: Michael Johnson take it on, Mark Gia Casey, Darren Elkins

1629
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 2: versus Jonathan Pierce, Eric Andors versus Kyle dawkas uh.

1630
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 4: And then there's some other ones. Pretty good card fight.

1631
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 3: Card is like walking into like sheets gas station. You're like,

1632
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 3: I have so many ways I can go for launcher.

1633
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 4: How many how many times have you ordered a schmuffin

1634
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 4: from sheets?

1635
01:05:16,360 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: I've never done the schmuffin, but I've done this. I've

1636
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 3: drunkenly hung out at that machine where you can add

1637
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 3: like things from different food groups into the same grinder.

1638
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: You're like, you know, starts off as like a chicken

1639
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 3: palm grinder. Then before you know, you got a fried

1640
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 3: egg in there and there's like guacamole. And they're like,

1641
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 3: it's just you can go weird places.

1642
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: They certainly can. Tai two Pavlovitch is getting a controversial win,

1643
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 4: his last one gone.

1644
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 3: This is the right bounce back opportunity for two of

1645
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 3: vas Look look that performance he showed in defeat. How

1646
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 3: the hell did he get lu cyril Gonnen in hindsight?

1647
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 3: How the hell did he lur cyl gon into a

1648
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 3: brawl in Paris and nearly win it. It's because ty

1649
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: toy Vos is one superpower that allows him to dance

1650
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 3: with the elite. There's something there. So this is the

1651
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 3: right featured bounce back type of fight. No, you know,

1652
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: Paplovitch is not easy and any because Tvasa fights so wild.

1653
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: Could have the right game plan to give Tuivasa a

1654
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 3: tough night, you know, on the right night. I think

1655
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 3: this is one where tu OFAs can come back, stamp Holman,

1656
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 3: knockout and look, be honest to me about where you

1657
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 3: think Tuivas's brand is in the eyes of the UFC.

1658
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 3: I think he's always going to be that guy. Okay,

1659
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 3: he had a loss against a big name, Let's get

1660
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: him back in a featured spot, bounce back, and then

1661
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: let's put him right back in there and play matchmaker

1662
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 3: against another big name.

1663
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's something kind of like the

1664
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: Derek Lewis role, but it's a little bit more elevated

1665
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 2: than that.

1666
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, because that's because he just went in there

1667
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 3: and was that dangerous against God, correct, I mean he

1668
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 3: was that close to being in a title fight. That's wild.

1669
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was surprising. It was sort of surprising, but

1670
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 4: it shouldn't because ti to Vasa has done really well

1671
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 4: of late.

1672
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 3: So is there a long term Like, like when guys

1673
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 3: fight so aggressively on the ride, we're like, enjoy the ride,

1674
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 3: They're not gonna be able to sustain that. His willingness

1675
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: to take in other people's fluids through through shoeies and

1676
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:59,160
Speaker 3: like the cross contamination of chemicals and honestly like that that's.

1677
01:06:59,000 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 4: How COVID got formed.

1678
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 2: Just somewhere He's like hawked up a book or somewhere

1679
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: and then someone else drank it and God only knows.

1680
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 4: This one just is sad. I don't know how else

1681
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 4: to say it.

1682
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,520
Speaker 2: December tenth of the T Mobile Arenau gustav Sen is

1683
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: back Alexander Gustafson UFC two eighty two taking on Ovin

1684
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 2: Saint pru Bc. I got to tell you, my level

1685
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: of interest in this is less than zero. I don't

1686
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: this is I'm surprised he's still fighting.

1687
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 3: So Gustison's had an age with a name value where

1688
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised. But this is sad because his last

1689
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 3: couple of performances he's got like you know, wasn't KO one.

1690
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 3: I mean he just got wiped out, like he doesn't

1691
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 3: have it anymore. Luke the experiment in heavyweight was sort

1692
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 3: of desperate and didn't really go anywhere. This is a

1693
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 3: bad fight.

1694
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,920
Speaker 2: Mikey Morms just wrote to me it was a good

1695
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 2: fight ten years ago. Yeah, it's about like right, that's

1696
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: about it.

1697
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 3: Just like when when like you acquire like a PS

1698
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 3: three because somebody gave it away and like they got

1699
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: a couple of games. You're like, oh shit, they got UFC.

1700
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: But it's like you know UFC two from like two

1701
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 3: thousand and eight, and you're like, yeah, you know, yeah,

1702
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 3: then gustus versus O people.

1703
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 2: Certainly long in the tooth as well, but gust of

1704
01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 2: cent appears to be far past it. Unfortunately, BC Leon

1705
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 2: Edwards says Ousman has to come to England for the

1706
01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 2: they say the rematch really wild, the rubber match.

1707
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: By the way, he did this interview with Troops TV.

1708
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 4: Do you know who Troops is? No? Have you ever

1709
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 4: heard of Arsenal fan TV.

1710
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 3: No, that's some UK soccer thing.

1711
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but honah, it's a little bit different. It's a

1712
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,480
Speaker 4: little bit different.

1713
01:08:22,280 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 2: Because all of these big teams over there at Manchester United, whoever,

1714
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 2: even the smaller teams Newcastle and whatever, they've all got

1715
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 2: fan channels. But Arsenal, which is one of the bigger teams,

1716
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 2: correct me if I'm wrong. Arsenal their fan channel which

1717
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,080
Speaker 2: is called Arsenal fan TV. By the way, they're not

1718
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 2: affiliated with the team, they're just fans. It's the biggest

1719
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 2: one of them all by far, and they got famous

1720
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,839
Speaker 2: because they put a bunch of guys on camera, Troops

1721
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 2: being one of them. Another guy was called dt who's

1722
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: now in jail. By the way, this is a true

1723
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 2: story for just having these fucking outrageous postgame reactions. And

1724
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,519
Speaker 2: you gotta understand when when we were like in the

1725
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 2: two thousand I think two thousand and four with two

1726
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: thousand and four, right was when they had the Invincibles

1727
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 2: with Thierry Henrie.

1728
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they had a season where they.

1729
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: Didn't lose a game in the Premier League, which is

1730
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 2: like unfucking heard of. Okay, since then, they've been bought

1731
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 2: out by an American guy, the same guy who opens

1732
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 2: the l a ram Stan Cronkey has driven that franchise

1733
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: into the ground. They're having a better season this season,

1734
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: but they had a look, what was it like a

1735
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 2: ten year span where they were getting just fucking murdered

1736
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:21,000
Speaker 2: by Bayern.

1737
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 4: Munich and shit.

1738
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 2: Anyway, Troops got famous, truly famous. Barstools signed him, he

1739
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: moved to New York City. It was like a whole thing.

1740
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 2: That's where Leon Edwards did this interview. He did it

1741
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: with Troops who used to what was troops' thing. He

1742
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 2: would call everyone blood clot, Obama, yang and fucking oh,

1743
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: he would call it everyone blood.

1744
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:39,799
Speaker 3: Is he the Robbie Fox of soccer?

1745
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 2: No, he's got tons more a caffeine in him than that.

1746
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:44,679
Speaker 2: What would he call it when he calls everyone blood

1747
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 2: and fam? Blood and fam at the end of every

1748
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 2: sense blood.

1749
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: I'm sure it's awesome when they when these nerds get

1750
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 3: together and talk soccer, it's great.

1751
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 4: It's fucking hilarious when Arsenal would lose and troops in

1752
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 4: DT would lose their mind to be great anyway, I

1753
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 4: don't know why this is news exactly. Wouldn't it be

1754
01:09:59,680 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 4: too to the word of my old life chat? Wouldn't

1755
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 4: it be promotional my practice? If they put this fight

1756
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:05,480
Speaker 4: in any place but England.

1757
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be. So let's do it.

1758
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 4: It's a great fight. Great. Why do you think you're

1759
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 4: above soccer? What is it about you where you you

1760
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 4: come from.

1761
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: That I grew up in a soccer crazed town. Okay,

1762
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 3: I grew up in the Portuguese section.

1763
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 4: And also, like soccer is a sport of like, I

1764
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 4: think you're.

1765
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 3: The only kid in the history of my town not

1766
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 3: to have played one year of organized soccer.

1767
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 4: It's a cool game.

1768
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 3: You know what also is cool everything butt soccer. I

1769
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 3: grew up watching boxing.

1770
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 4: I like, dude, you can like the NBA.

1771
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 2: You could.

1772
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:34,759
Speaker 4: It's not either or skin Emax.

1773
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 3: I mean those those were those were musty TV. You

1774
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 3: ever did you have that book in high school? The

1775
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 3: Mister Skin Book that had every B movie that floats

1776
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 3: around on Showtime, Cinemax and HBO. And it would have

1777
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 3: like the time frame to skip ahead.

1778
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 2: Dude, I've been watching hardcore pornography since I could.

1779
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 4: That's disgusting.

1780
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 3: All right, You're done with these quick hitters, so I

1781
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 3: can tell you about money line.

1782
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna uh hold on, We've got a few of

1783
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: these left. Uh let's see this one. I'll skip one.

1784
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 4: Gamrod says he's improving his English to be able to

1785
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 4: talk shit. That's nice, don't care.

1786
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 2: How about this one, fad or okay, how about this one?

1787
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:10,600
Speaker 2: Scott Cooker to the MMA hour. He loves coming on

1788
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 2: morning combat. Have you noticed that he loves it?

1789
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 4: He said?

1790
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 3: Quote, I mean, it's not like you're easy to deal with,

1791
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: and let's be fair.

1792
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 4: I'm not as hard to deal with as you make

1793
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 4: it out to me. Fad Or hit me up.

1794
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,439
Speaker 2: He said, am I going to fight Anderson Silva? I

1795
01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 2: said no, No, everybody just calmed down.

1796
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 4: Listen. I would personally love to see that fight. But

1797
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,240
Speaker 4: fad Or he's got his bullseye on Ryan Bader.

1798
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he really wants.

1799
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: I got to tell you, I understand that. Look, if

1800
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: it's Fador's last fight, you got to give him what

1801
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 2: he wants. I understand that, But someone talks some sense

1802
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:41,719
Speaker 2: to him. Fad Or versus Anderson Silva or Fader versus

1803
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,160
Speaker 2: Overheim is infinitely better than fad Or versus beat.

1804
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 3: But Fader is it fad Or Betor or Fader batter.

1805
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 4: The train is never late.

1806
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, though, Luke, you got I mean, you

1807
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 3: can say though that he's that he's trying to go

1808
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 3: out with the biggest bang legacy wise, and would adding

1809
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 3: the belat or everyweight champion ship in a rematch if

1810
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 3: he can knock him out, considering fad Or feels reborn

1811
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 3: from the knockout of Tim Johnson and Bader has not

1812
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 3: looked amazing of late.

1813
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: Right, dude, you can't possibly tell me anything other than

1814
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 2: that fight is a fraction as interesting.

1815
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm not to it, but the competitor and him might

1816
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,559
Speaker 3: be so I want to go back. I don't want

1817
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 3: to dead wrong with myself, Like I wasn't saying that

1818
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 3: Oveream fighting fad Or was bigger in terms of accomplishment

1819
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:29,559
Speaker 3: than taking the heavyweight title in glory from Rico as

1820
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:33,240
Speaker 3: a as an underdog. I was just saying, long term,

1821
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 3: I think it would stand out more like, oh, he

1822
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 3: closed his career by beating you know, That's all I

1823
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 3: meant on that in this regard, if this is fad

1824
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,600
Speaker 3: Or wanting to be a competitor, going no, I can

1825
01:12:42,680 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 3: run back that rematch and I can win it. Imagine

1826
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: if his last fight he won the bell To or

1827
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 3: everyweight championship, then bout out that that is a little

1828
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 3: bit more to the competitor and career achievement side than

1829
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 3: going in and beating a smaller Anderson Silva if that happened.

1830
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 4: Right, or just fight over? How about that just strip

1831
01:12:59,080 --> 01:12:59,640
Speaker 4: Ryan Baterer And.

1832
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 2: You're not you're not into like the idea that he's

1833
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm not into the idea of Fador fighting Baitor even

1834
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 2: a little.

1835
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 4: Bit for a second time.

1836
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,000
Speaker 3: His clock got cleaned in that first fight.

1837
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not interested?

1838
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 3: Are you with this Tito Chail trilogy?

1839
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 2: That Tito I went to text Jail this morning. I forgot,

1840
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,040
Speaker 2: but I would like to see if that's even reals.

1841
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 4: A lot of it.

1842
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 3: It's like a regional anime fight too.

1843
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 4: It's not even my radiom fight night, whatever the fuck

1844
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 4: that is? Oh? Is that like a right wing promotion? Probably?

1845
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: Probably, you know, probably b Ce Frank Mere speaking of freedom,

1846
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: Fries wants to fight on his retirement fight. But here's

1847
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 2: the deal. He wants to headline a card that his

1848
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: daughter is also on. Quote next year, I'm going to

1849
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 2: go and fight again because actually I want to fight

1850
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: once on the same card with Bella that's his daughter,

1851
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: as my last fight. She can headline the excuse me,

1852
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,160
Speaker 2: she can headline the card I dead wrong myself in

1853
01:13:47,200 --> 01:13:50,400
Speaker 2: real time. She can headline the card. I can open it.

1854
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: That'd be a cool little moment, wouldn't it.

1855
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be. I'm not going to hold that

1856
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:54,320
Speaker 3: against him.

1857
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 2: You know what.

1858
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: You know poster I had on my wall as a kid,

1859
01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 3: the one with Ken Griffy Senior's locker next to Ken

1860
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 3: Griffy Junior, and they were like, people don't even know

1861
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 3: that was a thing in like when they were when

1862
01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:06,560
Speaker 3: they were hitting three and four in that lineup or

1863
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 3: two and three whatever, and they hit back to back

1864
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 3: home runs. That was like a thing. And lebron James

1865
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 3: is trying to like, will that moment with Bronnie it

1866
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 3: seems right? Yeah, it does, which but he's eighteen now.

1867
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: I think he's another draft next go round. Now, the

1868
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 3: differences those guys weren't taking punches. Mer's well past it.

1869
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 3: But if he wants to go out on some.

1870
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 4: Who's what's the promoter for this plan? I'm not sure?

1871
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,600
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I'm not against it.

1872
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 4: Oh he did it on Finnite Flashbacks. That's the Brendon

1873
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 4: chob vehicle. Vehicle.

1874
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: Yes, that's where Shab said that he'd put Tim Sylvia

1875
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 3: against any modern UFC heavyweight.

1876
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 4: Today crime Tim Silvia against Francis.

1877
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like, Brendan, I don't think

1878
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: that's a good take, buddy, I would not, Although I

1879
01:14:45,080 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 2: will say, here's the argument to make about Tim Silvia.

1880
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: It's not that prime Tim Silvia would beat Francis. I

1881
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 2: don't think that's really true, but that prime Tim Sylvia

1882
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 2: doesn't get credit for actually how good he was I

1883
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: do think there's some merit.

1884
01:14:57,680 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 3: You ever see an episode of Blind Date that Tim

1885
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 3: Sylvia was on after he had broken his arm. Yeah,

1886
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 3: he's a big goof Yeah, he didn't get the girl,

1887
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 3: and he was like trying to like brag that, you know,

1888
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 3: have my arm snapped in the UFC.

1889
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 4: She didn't give a fuck.

1890
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 3: No.

1891
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 2: Lastly, this is no surprise, but Ali Abdelaziz has admitted

1892
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,839
Speaker 2: to tweeting for Habib. He told me, yeah, but he tweets.

1893
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 2: He said, I used to tweet for yeah. Bullshit, he

1894
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 2: said on inside fighting quote. Of course it wasn't me.

1895
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 2: People are crazy. I haven't been tweeting for Habib for

1896
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,200
Speaker 2: at least four or five years. I used to tweet

1897
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,080
Speaker 2: for him, for sure, but we said that one percent

1898
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:30,920
Speaker 2: was not me. I would let you know, I promise you.

1899
01:15:31,479 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: I used to tweet for him when he began every day,

1900
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: four or five times a day, but he locked me out.

1901
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 4: That's hilarious. Do you buy that he locked him out?

1902
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 4: He might have. I don't know. I don't know.

1903
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 3: They all you know, it's very Uh what do I

1904
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,320
Speaker 3: always compare to the buffet on the cruise Loop? By

1905
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 3: day four, the breakfast tastes like the dinner you know.

1906
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 4: Lastly, how about this one?

1907
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 2: There are reports this is the last one for us

1908
01:15:56,080 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 2: Tyson Fury is finalizing a December third trilogy fight. Not

1909
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 2: a fucking soul is asking for except his opponent, namely

1910
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 2: Derek Chezora. By the way, there was a stat from

1911
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 2: Dan Kenobio who runs compy Box.

1912
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 3: They have dad runs it, but yeah, he's he hosts

1913
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 3: inside Compybox Live.

1914
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 4: There you go. Yeah.

1915
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 2: Uh. They have fought previously a total of twenty two

1916
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: rounds and Choozora was out landed in twenty one of

1917
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 2: those twenty two round By the way, we met is

1918
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: worse since then and Fury is better since then. This

1919
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: is a fucking joke.

1920
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 3: It's not Chazora pushing for it. Even that. It's like

1921
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 3: Furi's always included Hasa's name in the fights that he

1922
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 3: wanted to close his career with for whatever reason. I

1923
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 3: don't know if they've become friendly behind the scenes, but look,

1924
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 3: is there a need for it. No, Fury's won dominantly

1925
01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: both times in clear a knockout. But if this is

1926
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,600
Speaker 3: just Fury saying I want to this is just like

1927
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 3: tell the truth. If this is just you saying you

1928
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 3: want to stay busy ahead of whatever the next huge

1929
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 3: fight hopefully usik is nobody has a problem with it.

1930
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 3: Just stop the bait and switch details of this, I mean,

1931
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 3: or and if if you're going to take a softie it,

1932
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 3: just go take a softy, Okay, just say it. I mean,

1933
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 3: is not soft Like it's not going to be an

1934
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,960
Speaker 3: easy even if Tyson beats them a third time like

1935
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: Tasaur's dope, Boy's tough. Okay, Okay, but I mean, there

1936
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 3: is less than zero nobody is really the thing? Yeah, yeah,

1937
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 3: all right, so.

1938
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 4: Let's do this before we get to our top five BC.

1939
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 4: I don't know how we're going.

1940
01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 3: To do this because it's not really people know that

1941
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 3: we've got a new show sponsor.

1942
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 4: It's true money Lion, which is the only money app

1943
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 4: you'll ever need. We saw our commercial and they love

1944
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 4: our community just as much as we do.

1945
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 3: And because of that, Luke, we at MK have decided

1946
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: to partner with money Line and create a new segment.

1947
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 3: How about this. It's going to be called the Money

1948
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 3: Lion Hammer of the Month and are As Crups behind

1949
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 3: the scenes likes to say hashtag holy hammer to this one.

1950
01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of that crup.

1951
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 3: You're starting to come around to me. Okay, Holy Hammer.

1952
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 3: That is wow.

1953
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 4: So here's how it's going to work.

1954
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 2: There are undercard fighters out there not necessarily getting the

1955
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 2: recognition they deserve. So what we are going to do

1956
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: is highlight them off the show and then reward them

1957
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 2: with an epic giant Hammer trophy that they can show

1958
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 2: off to their friends and family.

1959
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 4: Or they might stop. They might just chuck it in

1960
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 4: the garbage.

1961
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can touch this, actually, it seems. And we're

1962
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 3: asking you, the MK viewer, to vote throughout the month

1963
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 3: and let us know which undercard fighters out there deserve

1964
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 3: this sweet award. At the end of the month, we

1965
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 3: will tally up the votes and get it down to

1966
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 3: a top three. Then we'll review the top three and

1967
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 3: pick a winner. This is a creative cross promotion here

1968
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 3: with money Line.

1969
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 4: I like this, all right, So how do you vote?

1970
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 2: Just hop on to Twitter and tell us who you

1971
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,599
Speaker 2: think should win while tagging at money Lion and using

1972
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: the hashtag Hammer of the Month.

1973
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 4: Dude, they're gonna send dong picks. You know, you know

1974
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 4: they are. Can we go back to Holy Hammer to

1975
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 4: learn more.

1976
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: Just hashtag send dong here.

1977
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 4: How about that? All right?

1978
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 2: To learn more, visit Moneylion dot com slash Morning Combat again,

1979
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 2: Moneylion dot com slash Morning.

1980
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 4: Is this gonna be UFC undercard fighters?

1981
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,400
Speaker 2: I think it could be any undercard including boxing or

1982
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: Bellator or PFL or walk out whatever.

1983
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, uh okay, BC, let's do this time for top five.

1984
01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,320
Speaker 4: Let's do top five.

1985
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 3: That's what we do. Yeah, that's what we do.

1986
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 4: So what we're gonna do today is favorite boxers to watch.

1987
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,400
Speaker 2: Now, here's what I want to pitch this too, because

1988
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 2: I know we got a lot of people who are

1989
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 2: more MMA centric than boxing.

1990
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:11,240
Speaker 4: Like it can go ship now right, But here's what

1991
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 4: I want to do.

1992
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: This is my list to you as an MMA fan,

1993
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,240
Speaker 2: which is to say I have I don't know about BC,

1994
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: but I have structured my list as like if I

1995
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 2: wanted to actually recommend someone to you that when I

1996
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 2: knew you watched them, I would have no worries about

1997
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,040
Speaker 2: you enjoying what they were capable.

1998
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,200
Speaker 3: Of you, not as an m plain why they should.

1999
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 4: It's just very easy to watch with that in my BC.

2000
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 4: I don't know how you construcute list.

2001
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 3: This was fun obviously to boxing one, so it was

2002
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 3: up my alley, but it was so hard to come

2003
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 3: up with five. I can give you like eight more

2004
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 3: names that deserve to be here, like Fondora, you know

2005
01:19:43,479 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.

2006
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: He would be close to my list as well.

2007
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 3: Let's start at number five, and let's start with some royalty.

2008
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Chocol, Latito, Roman Gonzalez. Uh, he's still

2009
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 3: going and he's gonna have a December trilogy, I believe,

2010
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 3: with one Francisco and Strata. But Chocolate is as regal

2011
01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 3: and classy and royal, an all time great elite fighter

2012
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 3: as this game has ever seen. And the fact that

2013
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 3: he's operating in his twilight still at such a high level,

2014
01:20:10,439 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 3: it's so fun to watch. If you've never heard of

2015
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 3: this guy. He came from Nicaragua and it became a

2016
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 3: long time through his success before American TV got a

2017
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 3: hold of him, before he became a co main event

2018
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:22,160
Speaker 3: to some Triple G pay per views or HBO put

2019
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:23,640
Speaker 3: him front and center. You had to get an a

2020
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 3: legal stream. But you're looking at one of the most

2021
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:30,200
Speaker 3: successful boxer punchers who went on to become the pound

2022
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 3: for pound king despite coming out of those small weight

2023
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 3: classes and even all the way up to his run

2024
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 3: in the two fight series against Teresa katsur Rungvisai, both

2025
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 3: times going the wrong way of Chocola Chito, but just

2026
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 3: you know, he got knocked to hell in the rematch.

2027
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 3: The fact that he's been able to come back and

2028
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 3: make great fights is a testament to his all time

2029
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 3: great chin will. Why is he fun to watch because

2030
01:20:54,320 --> 01:21:01,560
Speaker 3: his combinations are some of the most beautiful packaging of footwork, classiness, technique,

2031
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 3: and just raw power. He's one of those rare guys, Luke.

2032
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 3: He's won titles in three or four weight divisions that

2033
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 3: every time he steps up he brings that power with

2034
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 3: him and getting to see him navigate his thirties in

2035
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,680
Speaker 3: a division here at one point fifteen where he can

2036
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 3: get into trouble, he can find the wrong guy in

2037
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 3: the wrong night. He's shown an all time great ability

2038
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 3: in his senior years to still ratchet back up. There

2039
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: is no more elegant butt fighter. Sort of like saying,

2040
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 3: you know, Darryl Strawberry swing, Luke, It's just a thing

2041
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 3: of beauty to watch in baseball watching Chuckle Lachito, game plan,

2042
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 3: figure you out, make adjustments and then walk you down

2043
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 3: with a high work rate and a high technique. It

2044
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 3: is just beautiful to behold.

2045
01:21:40,720 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 2: For number five for me, I'm going to go with

2046
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 2: Olexander Usik. Now there's going to be a theme to

2047
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 2: the five that I pick. Usik is a little bit

2048
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,679
Speaker 2: less than the other four in this regard, but still

2049
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 2: very much of that part. Obviously, he unified all the

2050
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 2: titles at cruiserweight and here he is up at heavyweight

2051
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: doing incredible things.

2052
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:58,720
Speaker 4: Usick, why would you love him?

2053
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,880
Speaker 2: A technicians technician, the kind of guy would I want

2054
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: to see when other boxers say, hey, you got to

2055
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,640
Speaker 2: stop and watch this guy. Of course, Vasili Lomachenko, his

2056
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 2: Ukrainian brethren also of that ilk. This is not the

2057
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:12,519
Speaker 2: same kind of fighter in that way, but the way

2058
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 2: he was able to undo the potential powers and of

2059
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: a guy like Joshua but before.

2060
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 4: That Tony Bellu and goes on and on and on.

2061
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,479
Speaker 2: He can lower the boom when he has to, he

2062
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: can box on the outside when he has to. He's

2063
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:30,759
Speaker 2: got tricks like you wouldn't believe, good footwork, good defense.

2064
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 2: He's a bit of a weirdo. You just know if

2065
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 2: he's in a fight you're in for something special with

2066
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 2: a guy like that. So for that reason, he's my

2067
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 2: number five.

2068
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 4: He's an Alzheimer. Let's go, let's move this alone. BC.

2069
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to bother you here, Luke number four on

2070
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 3: my list, I must see it's the king of the

2071
01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 3: junior middleweight division. One five to four. It is Jurmel Charlow.

2072
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 3: And I don't think you'd be surprised that we consider

2073
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,600
Speaker 3: him among the ten to fifteen best fighters in the

2074
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 3: game today. Maybe you're surprised that he's must watch like

2075
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 3: on this level on my list. Here's why. Yes, there's

2076
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 3: a rare combination at the elite level of speed, power,

2077
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 3: boxing ability IQ, no question about it. But nobody in

2078
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 3: this game today, maybe outside of his brother Jamal, fights

2079
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,479
Speaker 3: with as big of a chip on his shoulder as

2080
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 3: Jamel Charlow. And what we've seen from him at the

2081
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 3: highest level is anytime he's had a setback, the disputed

2082
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 3: loss to Tony Harrison or the draw on the first

2083
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 3: fight with Castano that could have just as easily been

2084
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 3: a loss, he has regrouped, come back in the rematch

2085
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 3: and won it by knockout. The reason to me why

2086
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 3: he's so fun to watch is because there's flashes at times.

2087
01:23:32,680 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 3: Think that original title run at one fifty four when

2088
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 3: he was knocking out ericson Lubin with one punch, knocking

2089
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 3: out Charles Hatley with a vicious combination. He'll go on

2090
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,120
Speaker 3: stretches where he will look like he's close to completely

2091
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 3: figuring it out and leaping into the top five or

2092
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,880
Speaker 3: ten of the pound for pound, but I'll have a

2093
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 3: setback here in there and watching him navigate that where

2094
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 3: he still can be vulnerable at times. He still fights

2095
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 3: with such a chip on his shoulder. They can be

2096
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 3: over committed at times. I still think here's a guy

2097
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 3: who has yet, at thirty two to really offer the

2098
01:24:02,160 --> 01:24:04,360
Speaker 3: best performance of his career, and when he does, if

2099
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,800
Speaker 3: he does, he's going to go to another level. He

2100
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 3: fights angry, yet at the same time he fights efficient

2101
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 3: and with skill, and he has be calm over this stretch.

2102
01:24:12,680 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 3: Such a dangerous counterpuncher who can finish you with the

2103
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 3: perfect shot. Sometimes he'll give up rounds and take a

2104
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 3: whole fight to try to find that moment, and that

2105
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,519
Speaker 3: can be frustrating when he doesn't get that moment, and

2106
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 3: sometimes you go, wow, maybe he needs to make adjustments,

2107
01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: but when he's on, he shows you brilliant flashes of greatness.

2108
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 3: It's always MUSTYVTV as our studio falls apart in front

2109
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 3: of me. I mean, when Jamel's on, you got to

2110
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: see it.

2111
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 2: Luk okay, there's no doubt about it. There's no doubt

2112
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,840
Speaker 2: about it. There's there's how many unified champions are there?

2113
01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: Undisputed and to speed excuse me, So there's him Canelou

2114
01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:42,919
Speaker 2: who else.

2115
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,880
Speaker 3: Josh Taylor was but they stripped him, right, Uh, we're

2116
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:48,320
Speaker 3: hopefully going to get one at heavyweight.

2117
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: Point being is there's a handful or less Devin Haney,

2118
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 2: Devin Haney, and we're going to get one at one

2119
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 2: eighteen when Paul Butler fights a new Ay or potentially

2120
01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: at heavyweight if they make Usik Fury. But you get

2121
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 2: the idea.

2122
01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,839
Speaker 4: There's not many of these guys, so when they compete,

2123
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 4: it important to watch them. For me.

2124
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 2: Number four easy on this one. The Chechen Hammer out

2125
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 2: of Canada. How about Arthur Bitterbiev or better be or

2126
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 2: however you want to pronounce it. This guy is one

2127
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: of the only world champions I believe with a one

2128
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 2: hundred percent finishing rate, right He does nothing but put

2129
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 2: competition away, and he has done it through some adversity

2130
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: before being cut, before being not necessarily being dropped, but

2131
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: having guys try and just get him off of their

2132
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 2: personal space. But over time, he is a fucking terminator.

2133
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:35,160
Speaker 2: If you've never seen some of his workout videos on YouTube,

2134
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: look it up. He has this insane, spartan but bizarre

2135
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: regimen that he goes through where he is doing push

2136
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: ups off the back of his wrists and he's rotating

2137
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:46,479
Speaker 2: a barbell which is forty five pounds in long and

2138
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 2: difficult to control, and he's twisting it over his hand

2139
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,760
Speaker 2: like it's nothing. All kinds of weird stuff. He has

2140
01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: relocated to Canada. Iou say that's his home. He has

2141
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 2: a friendship, by the way, with George San Pierre's a

2142
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: whole video about that top rank put together on YouTube.

2143
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 2: If you've not seen Arthur better Beef, I don't know

2144
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 2: what you are waiting for. The one seventy five pound dude.

2145
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,759
Speaker 2: Now he might match up with Bivall, we'll see what happens.

2146
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 3: He's going to be fighting Anthony Yard in a title

2147
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 3: defense coming up.

2148
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 4: But it was a nice run for Yard. But it's

2149
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 4: going to come to a close and.

2150
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 3: He's going to end up fighting the hopefully the winner

2151
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,560
Speaker 3: of Dmitri Beval versus Zerdo Ramerez, which is gonna be

2152
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 3: a good run.

2153
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens there. But it's sort of

2154
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,120
Speaker 2: presumed that Bivoll and better Beef are the two guys

2155
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,720
Speaker 2: at one seventy five. But of those two, there is

2156
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,639
Speaker 2: one Russian dude who just walks everyone down and has

2157
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: vicious crippling power, and that's Arthur better Beef.

2158
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 3: And two fights it looked like he was getting old

2159
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 3: because he's thirty seven. Show a better life than the

2160
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 3: last against Joe Smith Junior to unified belts. He's got

2161
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 3: three of the four light heavweight. It's going to be

2162
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 3: fun to see if he gets that chance. I don't

2163
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 3: think Canelo should go near him.

2164
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 4: I think you should go to number three.

2165
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 3: All right, let's go to number three on my list

2166
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:50,240
Speaker 3: right here. It's the only overlapping one we've seen, and

2167
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:54,240
Speaker 3: that's heavyweight champion Alexander Usik. Folks, what you're watching here

2168
01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 3: is a genius. Strictly sits, without question, one of the

2169
01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 3: all time greatest fight in any weight class. To do this,

2170
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,360
Speaker 3: he was an Olympic gold medalist from the Ukraine. He

2171
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 3: became the first four bell undisputed cruiseweight champion and went

2172
01:27:08,200 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 3: through a tournament of death in the World Super World

2173
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 3: Bloxing Super Series tournament to beat and unify unbeaten fighter

2174
01:27:16,200 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 3: after unbeaten fighter. Then he knocked out Tony Bellu and

2175
01:27:19,160 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 3: put him into retirement, and then he moved up to

2176
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 3: heavyweight and look what he's done since consecutive wins over

2177
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 3: Anthony Joshua. He's got three or four heavyweight titles and

2178
01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,639
Speaker 3: a chance potentially here to try to become the heavyweight

2179
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 3: undisputed champion if he can get Tyson Fury into that ring.

2180
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 3: But in the super heavyweight era where everybody's above six '

2181
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,760
Speaker 3: five and jacked with power, you know, and a lot

2182
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 3: of other attributes. He's a six foot three south Paul

2183
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:46,560
Speaker 3: who comes from the same Ukrainian amateur system is Lomachenko

2184
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: and Papachenko the trainer, and has adapted that to the

2185
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 3: heavyweight division now in ways that outside of Tyson Fury,

2186
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 3: who is a unicorn himself, not only is there no

2187
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 3: one that can stand up to him now, but even

2188
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 3: historically you've got to go through and find a guy

2189
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 3: who maybe has that technical ability, but do they have

2190
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 3: the size, do they have the speed. What he does

2191
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 3: with his footwork patterns and the variety that he can

2192
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 3: do with his hands is just masterful. And I think

2193
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 3: the fact that he doesn't have a punch that's considered

2194
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,439
Speaker 3: a one punch threat at heavyweight, and although he's got

2195
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 3: a good chin, he doesn't have the type of resistance

2196
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 3: where he can just go toe for toe with the

2197
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 3: biggest puncher. It adds more potential vulnerability into his fights

2198
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 3: and makes what he ultimately does. And don't forget he

2199
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 3: took big punishment against aj and winning that first fight,

2200
01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: but just didn't really show you that he did. We're

2201
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 3: watching somebody who is constantly daring to be great and

2202
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 3: might actually be the greatest cruiserweight fighter in the history

2203
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 3: of the sport, may have eclipsed Vander Holyfield and some

2204
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 3: people's eyes for accomplishments.

2205
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 4: And who they be.

2206
01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 3: And when a genius, I mean an alien, but a

2207
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 3: genius alien must see in every aspect.

2208
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 2: Number three for me, MMA fans, you have to believe me,

2209
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 2: and I bet you BC is going to co sign

2210
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 2: on this. For my number three Nooia in a way,

2211
01:28:57,439 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 2: affectionately known as the Monster. If I told you that

2212
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 2: there's a Japanese guy who's one hundred and eighteen pounds

2213
01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:05,639
Speaker 2: and he might be one of the most devastating punchers,

2214
01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 2: not in the sense that he can match a heavyweight punch,

2215
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:08,600
Speaker 2: but in terms of what he can do to his

2216
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: rivalry or his rival excuse me, would you believe me? Well?

2217
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 4: You better. This dude is out of control, crippling power.

2218
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,600
Speaker 4: But here's the other part about it. In addition to

2219
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 4: being heavy handed, he has guts.

2220
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:24,640
Speaker 2: He got his face broken in his first fight with

2221
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: the Nito Dinair, which he was able to come back

2222
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:28,640
Speaker 2: and still win. In the rematch, he dusted him off

2223
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: like it was nothing to show his progression. So he's

2224
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 2: got big power, he's got big guts, and he has

2225
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 2: excellent technique as well. Right, he can get into position,

2226
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:41,280
Speaker 2: he has pretty good defense, and he can rise to

2227
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:46,559
Speaker 2: the occasion when pressed. This dude is absolutely every time

2228
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 2: he competes must see television. He currently competes for basically

2229
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 2: top rank in the States anyway, and that's where you

2230
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 2: could see stuff as usually on espn BC. Am I

2231
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 2: exaggerating at all that he is again for what this

2232
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,000
Speaker 2: guy I can do to his division. One of the

2233
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 2: best punchers in boxing.

2234
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 3: No, he's currently my pound four pound king above Canelos

2235
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 3: Crawford Spence. And here's the deal on him. He is

2236
01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:12,640
Speaker 3: now in his third weight division, and he's carried the

2237
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 3: power up with him like Chocolatito in a scary regard.

2238
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 3: But as you mentioned in the first don Air fight,

2239
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:19,080
Speaker 3: we found out how great of a boxer he is,

2240
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 3: how tough he is. He's looking to fight everybody. He's

2241
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 3: gonna fight Paul Butler in December to try to become

2242
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 3: an undisputed champion at one eighteen. Then there's talk of

2243
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,000
Speaker 3: him going up to one twenty two and trying crazier stuff.

2244
01:30:29,160 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I love about him most. He was

2245
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 3: a two division champion before he even had ten pro fights.

2246
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,160
Speaker 3: He did that sort of Lomachenko fast tracked where you're like,

2247
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 3: oh god, he's six and oh but he's gonna move

2248
01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:41,719
Speaker 3: up to another weight class. He has frightening power people

2249
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 3: like jump backwards when they get hit with a shot.

2250
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 3: So anytime you get somebody in the lower weight classes

2251
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 3: a Chocolatito now in a new way, it becomes musty

2252
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 3: TV just on their power alone. Only these guys happen

2253
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 3: to be all time great boxers on top of.

2254
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 2: Them by the way that we're mentioning in a way,

2255
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 2: not a pay per view guy, so you can catch

2256
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 2: him on regular television.

2257
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, ESPN a top rank did well and bringing him

2258
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 3: into the fold with mister Honda, his Japanese promoter. There,

2259
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,439
Speaker 3: let's keep it going to my number two. Look, he's

2260
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 3: must see TV for his talent. I think he also

2261
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 3: is for the reality TV part of his life that's

2262
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 3: follow him around and that's former und Speed of Lightweight

2263
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,200
Speaker 3: champion Tao Femo Lopez Junior. He moved up to one

2264
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 3: pint forty. There was some good and bad in his debut,

2265
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:21,719
Speaker 3: more good than not. He's going to be back Heisman

2266
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 3: weekend against Jose Pedrazza, which is a very interesting fight.

2267
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 3: But Tao Fimo is one of the most dynamic young

2268
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 3: talents we've seen in a long time. Royd Jones Junior said,

2269
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 3: the only fighter today that reminds him of Royd Jones

2270
01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 3: Junior is Tao Fimo Lopez. He's got the quick twitch fibers,

2271
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:40,759
Speaker 3: the ability to land crazy finishing shots out of nowhere

2272
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 3: and oh yeah, he can also box and has a backbone.

2273
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 3: But what has happened to him personally getting married at

2274
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 3: twenty one, then getting a divorce, his family being against

2275
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 3: his wife, losing the title, with the heart condition, against cambosis,

2276
01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 3: it's with everything him and his dad, his trainer, and

2277
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 3: you know, in the craziness in the corner. It's like

2278
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 3: a reality TV show, is it not? Following this guy

2279
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 3: with a trailer for better or for worse?

2280
01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 4: Bid?

2281
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 3: I mean all together, he's a great personality. He's very

2282
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,560
Speaker 3: mature beyond his years, but he's also personally kind of

2283
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:12,640
Speaker 3: going through some hell behind the scenes. The fact that

2284
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 3: he put it all back together and got his career

2285
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:16,479
Speaker 3: back I thought was a plus. I don't know Luke

2286
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: from here on out. I know he's going to be

2287
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 3: in big fights. I don't know if he can be

2288
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,519
Speaker 3: as great as he once showed and teased. But it

2289
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 3: is fun watching it because he's one of those rare

2290
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 3: special talents and has the personality to match the backflips

2291
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 3: that the Fortnite dances? Is it the full package?

2292
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,720
Speaker 4: Luk? For my number two, this is an easy one

2293
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:35,839
Speaker 4: for me to pick. How about Errol Spence? Junior.

2294
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think about the best way I can

2295
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 2: describe it to someone who's never seen him. He is very,

2296
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,519
Speaker 2: very talented South Paul one hundred and forty seven pounder.

2297
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 2: We all are waiting for the This is the one

2298
01:32:45,439 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 2: half of the Spence Crawford equation. The way I like

2299
01:32:48,840 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 2: to explain this to someone who's never seen him. Has

2300
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 2: you ever seen that third Matrix movie where the sentinels

2301
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,160
Speaker 2: are drilling all the way to the center. I stopped

2302
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 2: halfway through thee the name of the paradise for the

2303
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 2: humans that's left, the remaining city?

2304
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 4: What was it called? Was the name of the remaining city?

2305
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 3: Dude? If you try to think that, I recognize any

2306
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:08,599
Speaker 3: movie after the first Matrix as being part of what's.

2307
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:10,400
Speaker 2: The name of the Matrix city? That with the human

2308
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 2: city the only one that's left. It was like Nazarene

2309
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:14,040
Speaker 2: or some shows.

2310
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:14,719
Speaker 4: Let's read books.

2311
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:17,320
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is the whole third movie,

2312
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,519
Speaker 2: all the sentinels are drilling to the core and they

2313
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,800
Speaker 2: eventually make it. There's nothing they can do to stop them.

2314
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:26,040
Speaker 2: We're talking about and if BC disagrees, I encourage him

2315
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 2: to speak up. But I don't think that he will.

2316
01:33:27,320 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: We're talking about maybe one of the very best body

2317
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 2: punchers in all of boxing, independent of weight class. But

2318
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 2: more than that, people talk about his relentlessness, his pace,

2319
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 2: that's all part of it, and his devastating body punching

2320
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:45,160
Speaker 2: that's another part of it. He is extremely crafty with footwork, combination, angles.

2321
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:47,639
Speaker 2: He's got one of the most educated lead hands I've

2322
01:33:47,680 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 2: ever seen, to blind, to blast, to turn everything he

2323
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,640
Speaker 2: needs to do. Imagine a guy who is a masterful

2324
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 2: southpaw technician that gets off on damaging people to the body.

2325
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 4: That is really what we're talking about here. And of

2326
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,080
Speaker 4: course he's more than just a body snatcher.

2327
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 2: He can go to the head and combine everything with

2328
01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 2: inside footwork, outside footwork, angles, pressing, turning, leaning, He's got

2329
01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 2: it all. But what really stands out is he puts

2330
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,479
Speaker 2: a pace where he begins to drill on his opponent

2331
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 2: and all is really in question thus far in his

2332
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:21,080
Speaker 2: career is what round is that person going to fold?

2333
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 2: And his last fight that we were at taking on

2334
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 2: the Cuban gentleman or Ugas, Ugas's eye got destroyed and exploded.

2335
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,080
Speaker 4: Now he was a warrior and tried to go on,

2336
01:34:31,439 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 4: but this is my point. Errol Spence when.

2337
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 2: He competes, is inevitable, and he does it with absolute

2338
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 2: mastery of technique, a certain kind of mean streak, and

2339
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,639
Speaker 2: some of the very best body punching you will ever see.

2340
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,479
Speaker 3: And if you like a great let's say, recording artist

2341
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 3: who has you know, a modern rock album than the

2342
01:34:50,160 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 3: country acoustic album, you can go watch his paper view

2343
01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 3: went over Mikey Garcia to see twelve rounds of boxing

2344
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 3: brilliance in which he was trying to prove a point.

2345
01:34:57,800 --> 01:34:59,920
Speaker 3: Or you can go watch as long as the Ugas

2346
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 3: last died. What does he look like when he's a

2347
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 3: destroyer and he's just walking you down? Dude, Spence could

2348
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:06,759
Speaker 3: be number one on my list. He can do everything.

2349
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,720
Speaker 3: He is already in all time great. I'm telling you this,

2350
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 3: like like whether he beats Crawford or not. They're the

2351
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 3: sugar Ray, Leonond and Thomas Hearns of our era. They

2352
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 3: are next level in what they can do. He's old

2353
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,160
Speaker 3: school too, doesn't you get? Like that old school air,

2354
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 3: The way he carries himself, in the way he fight

2355
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 3: with the city was called Zion.

2356
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Speaker 4: Zion was the name of the same So when sentinels

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Speaker 4: are digging to Zion.

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Speaker 3: And he's also come back from a lot of stepbacks,

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Speaker 3: even if he caused that.

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Speaker 2: Right, he had their terrible accident, well he had the

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Speaker 2: injury with his eye, and then he had the terrible

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Speaker 2: car accident that he miraculously survived without significant injury.

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01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 4: So we're lucky to be having him.

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Speaker 2: I hope they make the Crawford fight, but I'm telling

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01:35:39,920 --> 01:35:43,280
Speaker 2: you Errol Spence is you cannot miss it when he fights.

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Speaker 3: All right, my number one of my favorite boxers to

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01:35:46,120 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 3: watch today. Look again, this could have been Fundra could

2368
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 3: have mentioned Kirs Stevenson, who I might you know, I

2369
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 3: think might actually be the best, the best boxer today.

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01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 3: He hasn't proven a number one pound for pound, but

2371
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 3: he's the He might be the best damn fighter today.

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01:35:57,920 --> 01:35:59,760
Speaker 3: But he didn't make my top five. When I asked

2373
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 3: my I'm really look in the mirror and say, number one,

2374
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 3: who do you get the worst? Watch excited to watch?

2375
01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 3: It's Jervonte Tank Davis. It's the complete package of what

2376
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 3: I'm looking for. An absolute badass who has the coolest

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01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 3: tattoo setups and is the southpaw. Mike Tyson of the

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01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,519
Speaker 3: lower weight classes, but all at the same time. Is

2379
01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:20,760
Speaker 3: also among the pomper Bound ten best in this game,

2380
01:36:20,840 --> 01:36:24,559
Speaker 3: and Kim Box circles around you if needed. He has

2381
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 3: some consistent setbacks outside the ring, but when he shows

2382
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:31,040
Speaker 3: up inside the ring, he draws a celebrity crowd. He

2383
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:34,799
Speaker 3: draws people's attention in ways that today's boxers don't necessarily

2384
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 3: do because it doesn't matter the opponent, the weight class,

2385
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 3: or the situation. The bottom line is Tank Davis as

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01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 3: an entertainer, and he comes in there and he carries

2387
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:44,600
Speaker 3: that big left hand and he carries it around the

2388
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 3: entire fight, and you're waiting for something to happen, and

2389
01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:49,560
Speaker 3: when it does, you get exactly what you came for.

2390
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 3: But if he's unable to land that, he's just as great,

2391
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,200
Speaker 3: it seems in every other in ring category. Chin Iq

2392
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,320
Speaker 3: to me, I mean the way he is so efficient

2393
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 3: Canelo in the way he'll walk you down and only

2394
01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,599
Speaker 3: show throw single shots that matter that will connect. Everything

2395
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 3: about him inside the ring is a ten out of ten,

2396
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,880
Speaker 3: and he's built a regional following, going to different cities

2397
01:37:10,920 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 3: and selling them out. He's starting to build that pay

2398
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 3: per view brand and bumping it up left and right, dude,

2399
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 3: at the end of the day, he delivers. He absolutely delivers.

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01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 3: And you can't always separate person from fighter, but separate

2401
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 3: from the personal side. When he walks into that ring,

2402
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 3: he just looks like a superstar. I mean, there's rare

2403
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 3: guys that just carry that. He's been able to do

2404
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 3: that at a young age when there's been a lot

2405
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 3: of pressure on him to be the next Floyd Mayweather

2406
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 3: under Floyd's arm. He's way different than Floyd, but he's

2407
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:40,360
Speaker 3: lived up in the long run to a lot of

2408
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 3: those expectations, with some setbacks along the way, both in

2409
01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 3: and out of the ring, yet still unbeaten. Here we

2410
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 3: are a multi division champion.

2411
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 4: And he does have some troubles outside the ring.

2412
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 2: He's got a court case coming up in a trial

2413
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 2: I believe in February or no, December, December, excuse me.

2414
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 4: So he's got some issues.

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01:37:54,560 --> 01:37:57,320
Speaker 2: But BC, I imagine if this is not quite the

2416
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 2: right comparison, but imagine if Deontay will or could box right,

2417
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 2: it's something like that, like he has this crippling power,

2418
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 2: like for example of God, the knockout loss, Santa Cruz,

2419
01:38:08,280 --> 01:38:10,560
Speaker 2: the Santa Cruz loss, or a knockout excuse me, is

2420
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:13,719
Speaker 2: just frightening to watch him building, to see.

2421
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 4: You set that up for rounds to get to that moment.

2422
01:38:15,760 --> 01:38:17,840
Speaker 2: And yes, I couldn't put him on my list top

2423
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 2: five only because the Cruise Santa Cruz fight to me

2424
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:21,599
Speaker 2: was great.

2425
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:23,640
Speaker 4: The Roly Romero fight was.

2426
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,880
Speaker 3: Not hisly fuck better than you thought he would.

2427
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, but also Take for a little worse.

2428
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,719
Speaker 3: Look, Take needs to step up the matchmaking, and they're trying,

2429
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 3: and they know and they're trying to make the Ryan

2430
01:38:32,280 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 3: Garcia happen. I hope that's a fight that can make up.

2431
01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,120
Speaker 3: But you know, he did have three straight pay per

2432
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 3: view fights in three different divisions, so he is trying

2433
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 3: to do you know, he's trying. He's trying.

2434
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 4: Look, okay, all right, for my number one, let me

2435
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 4: just say this very quickly.

2436
01:38:46,240 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 2: This is my favorite combat sport athlete to watch in

2437
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 2: MMA or boxing independent of it. This is the guy,

2438
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 2: right which I normally don't say. If I had to

2439
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 2: pick my top ten combat sport athletes to watch, it's

2440
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 2: probably gonna be eighty ninety percent MMA fighters, but this

2441
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 2: guy would be the exception. They call him Boots Jaron

2442
01:39:04,200 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 2: Ennis jon Nis by the way is a mandatory I

2443
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 2: think through the IBF for Eryl Spence, which they may

2444
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 2: end up making if this Crawford fight falls through, which

2445
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 2: would just be like my number one or number two

2446
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:15,040
Speaker 2: guys on my list competing.

2447
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 4: Let me just not mince words about this. Jon Ennis

2448
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 4: is a genius. He is a prodigy.

2449
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,240
Speaker 2: He can do everything in boxing, and he can do

2450
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:26,799
Speaker 2: it better than just about anybody else. He can box,

2451
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:30,760
Speaker 2: he can punch, he can move, he has phenomenal athleticism.

2452
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 2: He's still young. He hasn't taken hardly any damage. By

2453
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 2: the way, one of the very few boxers who is

2454
01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 2: super damaging both defensively, well actually say damaging offensively, but

2455
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 2: also super good from either stance. You will watch him

2456
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:47,439
Speaker 2: switch back and forth, South Paul, orthodox you name it,

2457
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:52,200
Speaker 2: and can do everything like He makes boxing look far

2458
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: easier than it actually is.

2459
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:54,360
Speaker 4: Now.

2460
01:39:54,439 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 2: He has yet to face be see if you want

2461
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 2: to make a criticism of his career, he's yet to

2462
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 2: face that a level guy.

2463
01:39:59,560 --> 01:40:02,719
Speaker 4: They keep feeding him guys and they just can't last

2464
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 4: against them.

2465
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:05,360
Speaker 2: Not only does he beat them, he makes them look

2466
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,000
Speaker 2: foolish and typically dispatches them within a few rounds.

2467
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 4: He is exceptional. Next level.

2468
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 2: He is the future of boxing. He might be the

2469
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 2: future next star of boxing. I think that's somewhat debatable,

2470
01:40:16,760 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 2: but it's on the table.

2471
01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 4: BC. What do you make of the talent of Jeron

2472
01:40:22,160 --> 01:40:24,200
Speaker 4: Ennis and how bright is his future?

2473
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,439
Speaker 3: I don't say this often, although I've told you Chick

2474
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 3: her Stevenson right now, right now might be the best

2475
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 3: fighter in the game. Jeron Bootsenez is young Lebron. I

2476
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 3: don't say that lightly. That's exactly who he is. He's

2477
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:37,160
Speaker 3: young Lebron on the Cavs coming in on opening night

2478
01:40:37,200 --> 01:40:39,599
Speaker 3: at Sacramento, getting the steel at mid court and Duncan,

2479
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 3: and I mean every time we see him step up

2480
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,000
Speaker 3: and face a different level, a circuit Lippin, it's the

2481
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 3: lor man he's faced the guys are supposed to on

2482
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 3: the ride up. He's not just blowing them away.

2483
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:50,880
Speaker 4: He's doing the bone nickel bit.

2484
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 3: And he's not just blowing them away spectacularly, he's also

2485
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,680
Speaker 3: blowing them away at a next level in terms of

2486
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 3: the way he sets up and does things. The future

2487
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 3: at Walter is always crazy fun and Spence Crawford and

2488
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 3: we still got Hugs and Thurman, all these big names around,

2489
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:08,599
Speaker 3: and there's the names that are coming behind Boots might

2490
01:41:08,640 --> 01:41:11,000
Speaker 3: be better than all of them. And that's without having

2491
01:41:11,120 --> 01:41:12,840
Speaker 3: really seen him consistently faced me.

2492
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:13,240
Speaker 4: He's trying.

2493
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:14,680
Speaker 3: He's trying to fight everybody. He's been trying to fight

2494
01:41:14,760 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 3: Thurman forever. He's going the mandatory route to get to.

2495
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 4: Say they don't want no one wants a part of

2496
01:41:18,920 --> 01:41:21,519
Speaker 4: Boots en Us right now and they and they shouldn't.

2497
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 3: But he's gonna work the system in the right way

2498
01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:25,360
Speaker 3: to get that shot and when he does, and look,

2499
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 3: he may have to fight Ugas first, he may have

2500
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 3: to fight Staniosis, who has a secondary title. He may

2501
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:31,479
Speaker 3: have to do what he has to do, but you're

2502
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:33,880
Speaker 3: gonna favor him by about minus five hundred on most

2503
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 3: of these steps of the journey. Him against Spencer Crawford

2504
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:38,920
Speaker 3: is going to be something special.

2505
01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 4: It really is.

2506
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 3: I mean, as much as we're like we've been waiting

2507
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 3: all these years to have our this next generation's meant

2508
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 3: Mayweather Pack yet, which is Spencer Crawford. Not not commercially,

2509
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,559
Speaker 3: although it'll be a big fight, but like critically it's like, dude,

2510
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:54,640
Speaker 3: Spence Boots might just flip Boots is like he's like

2511
01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,560
Speaker 3: when you had you had Magic and Bird. But but

2512
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 3: Jordan's coming on doesn't Don't you get that feeling a

2513
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 3: little bit.

2514
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 4: That's not a bad comparison.

2515
01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:03,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, came in and just ran feels inside.

2516
01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:07,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jaron Edis that's the guy. All right, BC, it's

2517
01:42:07,120 --> 01:42:08,720
Speaker 2: time for fan subs, my friend.

2518
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 4: Let's do it.

2519
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 3: Let's do it here Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Every

2520
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:15,519
Speaker 3: Wednesday is your opportunity to email us sending your artwork,

2521
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,680
Speaker 3: sending pictures of you and tight T shirts that you

2522
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 3: bought on our merch site, Morningcombat dot store, and we'll

2523
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 3: probably clown you. Yes, this is called fan submissions. We've

2524
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 3: got mails viewers all right. This one's from No Name, Hello,

2525
01:42:35,720 --> 01:42:39,479
Speaker 3: Luken BC and the and the Degenerate Malca producers. I

2526
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:41,880
Speaker 3: recently went to the five Finger Death Punch concert in

2527
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:45,320
Speaker 3: Tinley Park, Illinois, even though even though I'm a hip

2528
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 3: hop fan, so to fit with the dubt crackers that

2529
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:50,600
Speaker 3: might have been at the Capitol on jan six, I

2530
01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,120
Speaker 3: wore my MK merch and this lovely hat.

2531
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:54,439
Speaker 4: Can we go full spare on this?

2532
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:56,439
Speaker 3: All love to you guys, Thank you so much for

2533
01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 3: making the best damn combat sports show period. Let's let's

2534
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:02,320
Speaker 3: identify this. He didn't give a name, so.

2535
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:03,679
Speaker 4: We don't know it was the name of the concert,

2536
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:04,439
Speaker 4: Newfound Glory.

2537
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:06,840
Speaker 3: No, he went to the five finger death Punch.

2538
01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 4: That's equally bad.

2539
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:10,800
Speaker 3: What do you think of those be dazzled sweatpants he's

2540
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,200
Speaker 3: wearing along with the MK one point zero merch?

2541
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 4: Okay, what's the chance of the guy like this lives

2542
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 4: with his parents?

2543
01:43:16,280 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 3: Herren crocs Luke, he's wearing christ That's okay though, Okay,

2544
01:43:20,840 --> 01:43:22,680
Speaker 3: we support him though, just the same, right, thank you.

2545
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 3: Let's go to Penelope. Wow, we have female listeners. Hi, guys,

2546
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 3: this is my husband Miguel. As you can see, he's

2547
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:31,439
Speaker 3: a huge fan. His best friend bought him the shirt

2548
01:43:31,479 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 3: for his birthday and this past week, and he probably

2549
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:38,320
Speaker 3: wore it for today's UFC in Bellator Fights. He doesn't

2550
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:39,920
Speaker 3: know I'm submitting this, so if it makes it to

2551
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 3: the show, it would be a great birthday surprise for

2552
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:45,160
Speaker 3: my husband, Miguel. Thanks for all the content, for always

2553
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,519
Speaker 3: making us laugh. It's Penelope. What a wife?

2554
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 4: What a wife? What a mighty good wife. That's not

2555
01:43:50,320 --> 01:43:54,639
Speaker 4: the words, but yes, that is a tremendous happy birthday. Wow, Miguel.

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01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Praise to the lord. Indeed, look at that. Look

2557
01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,439
Speaker 3: at this family. No, look at the cable manage. Can

2558
01:43:58,439 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 3: we blow up there?

2559
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,519
Speaker 4: Blow up their friends? Got everything looks the way it's

2560
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 4: supposed to.

2561
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:07,040
Speaker 3: The dog bowls there, the dog, the child gates, they're

2562
01:44:07,080 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 3: on top of it. Over there, Penelope and Miguel. Happy birthday.

2563
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:11,799
Speaker 3: Let's go to Johnny says, hey, all, first time emailing

2564
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:15,760
Speaker 3: you guys. However, longtime loyal listener and reader dating back

2565
01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,759
Speaker 3: to well before them. Maybe I'm talking about twenty twelve.

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01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,759
Speaker 3: I guess I am a Day one subscriber. I subbed

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01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 3: September fifteenth, twenty nineteen. My name is John G. I'm

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01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 3: from Prospect Bay, Nova Scotia, much better and more excellent

2569
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:35,120
Speaker 3: area than JP and Mount Unike. I had sent a

2570
01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 3: DM via Instagram a while ago, but I figured given

2571
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 3: the number of messages, it got overlooked. I've attached a

2572
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 3: pick of me and my trustee MK pornhob Hoody doing

2573
01:44:42,840 --> 01:44:45,840
Speaker 3: yard work after the recent hurricane in Nova Scotia. Blah

2574
01:44:45,920 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 3: blah blah. He's a hobbyist leather crafter.

2575
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 4: Look at this. Wow.

2576
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 3: I'm working on some other things, but it was something

2577
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to share.

2578
01:44:52,880 --> 01:44:53,120
Speaker 4: Thanks.

2579
01:44:53,200 --> 01:44:55,840
Speaker 3: For all your great content and for helping a fellow

2580
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:58,559
Speaker 3: mid forties washed old man laugh a little bit.

2581
01:44:58,600 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 4: Well, this is the picture.

2582
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 3: Let me see this guy's leather. Hey man, watch the

2583
01:45:03,439 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 3: leather right, look at that dude. That's incredible.

2584
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:07,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's pretty great.

2585
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:09,920
Speaker 3: That and JP made that sign for his you know

2586
01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 3: outdoors too. I mean these Nova Scotians. I didn't I

2587
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 3: never thought of Nova Scotians before.

2588
01:45:15,160 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2589
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,240
Speaker 2: Also, it's a different times than the New York They're

2590
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:18,920
Speaker 2: actually one hour ahead of that, I believe.

2591
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:20,920
Speaker 4: Oh wow, what do you call that the Atlantic time?

2592
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,640
Speaker 3: I think Atlantic time? Okay, let's keep it going. This

2593
01:45:24,680 --> 01:45:27,880
Speaker 3: is from Rajiev. I know that dude from from Las Vegas.

2594
01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 4: Isn't that doctor Rajiev?

2595
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:29,280
Speaker 2: I know this?

2596
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this guy. He said he went to

2597
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 3: Mexico for his lady's thirty fifth birthday and was spreading

2598
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 3: the MK word in the process of exploring. The first

2599
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 3: picture is me going to tip to tip in front

2600
01:45:38,479 --> 01:45:42,840
Speaker 3: of chee Chenitza a Mayan ruin. The next homage to

2601
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 3: Lekeito double fisting margaritas for the last live show in Vegas.

2602
01:45:47,439 --> 01:45:49,640
Speaker 3: Be easy, fellas, can't wait for the next one. I

2603
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 3: met this guy in Vegas. Look, I think he's a doctor.

2604
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 3: I may have gotten that wrong. Great guy always in

2605
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,880
Speaker 3: my DMS. Look him and his lovely wife Peter. A

2606
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 3: doctor of what I think he's like a family a

2607
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:02,439
Speaker 3: family dog, like a general practice guy, That's what I think.

2608
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:04,720
Speaker 4: Will they come and do a medical checkout for us

2609
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 4: for free? Oh? Yeah? Now?

2610
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:08,400
Speaker 3: Would you be willing to do an on air prostate check?

2611
01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 4: Who the fuck would want to see that? Maybe?

2612
01:46:12,520 --> 01:46:13,320
Speaker 3: Roggie? Would you know?

2613
01:46:13,880 --> 01:46:14,799
Speaker 4: Maybe? Rogie?

2614
01:46:14,920 --> 01:46:17,439
Speaker 3: You're a disgusting All right, let's go to JP, the

2615
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 3: other Nova Scotian we got in this house. He says,

2616
01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:21,479
Speaker 3: a good day, cru big thanks to our j duncle

2617
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 3: gang Bang and the MK producer Mikey for my promo code.

2618
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 3: The other week, the merch has arrived. He spent a

2619
01:46:27,200 --> 01:46:30,000
Speaker 3: couple hundred bucks on merched this guy, JP, Happy birthday

2620
01:46:30,040 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 3: to meet to my beautiful wife down as she flies

2621
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:35,440
Speaker 3: out this afternoon for a two week work trip to Australia.

2622
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 4: Do you think she's going to Handycambosa's Luke in this household?

2623
01:46:39,560 --> 01:46:40,960
Speaker 4: I have producer credits.

2624
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:45,000
Speaker 3: Wow, another female listener, Luke.

2625
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:47,120
Speaker 4: That's amazing, that's amazing.

2626
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 3: And twenty nine hours of travel. Later, Dawn, the boss

2627
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 3: Lady Pakett is down under wearing our MK merch.

2628
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 2: Dude, we were at Cheetzsa Nizza and now we're at

2629
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 2: the Sydney Opera House.

2630
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 4: MK is the new flat Stanley. Right, that's a little strong.

2631
01:47:03,479 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 4: It's a little strong.

2632
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, shout out to Jay and Dawn

2633
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 3: just the same. She puts up with a lot to

2634
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:08,799
Speaker 3: have to wear our merchant publish.

2635
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 4: Shit. Wow, Christ, that's amazing.

2636
01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, pocatch. You guys are the best,

2637
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:14,759
Speaker 3: all right. They're they're French.

2638
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 4: Canadian like me. Yeah you are not French Canadian. All right.

2639
01:47:18,520 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 3: Let's go to Zach, he says. Not sure if you've

2640
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:23,799
Speaker 3: been on Makwan Americani's tapology page lately, but his profile

2641
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 3: picture is quite hilarious. I couldn't help but take the

2642
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:29,760
Speaker 3: opportunity to throw down my first fan sub. This is

2643
01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 3: what BC dreams about when he's in a dollar dog

2644
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 3: food coma outside of the local Cumberland farms. Wow, yeah,

2645
01:47:38,680 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 3: well you know, yeah that is awesome, say creepy, you

2646
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 3: old bitch. Yes, Zach, you might be onto something.

2647
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:47,439
Speaker 4: Let's go to Peter.

2648
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,040
Speaker 3: What's up? Sun Punchers? Here's a clip of me rocking

2649
01:47:50,080 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 3: some MK merch with the War Frats, Nova Scotia's Grateful

2650
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 3: Dead tribute band, Good Lord Nova Scotia.

2651
01:47:55,720 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 4: Wow, we got we have to do a show in

2652
01:47:58,080 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 4: Nova Scotia. We think we do.

2653
01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 3: Get five people to show up. The psychedelic pit guard

2654
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,519
Speaker 3: on my bas is called the otel. Yes, a big

2655
01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 3: shout out to fellow MK fan and fellow bassis. Are

2656
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 3: we able to hear this O'tell Burbridge from you know,

2657
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:14,679
Speaker 3: Dead in Company? So he's wearing the official Luke O'tel

2658
01:48:14,920 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 3: pit guard that our buddy wears for Dead for the

2659
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 3: Dead and Company that he wears on the Oteal and

2660
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 3: Friends tour right now. So MK is in the music scene, Luke,

2661
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 3: do you know this?

2662
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 2: Uh?

2663
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,360
Speaker 4: It is a little bit, It is a little bit.

2664
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:28,640
Speaker 2: I have a good relationship with the lead singer of

2665
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,879
Speaker 2: Hate Breeds Shasta.

2666
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was just I was just celebrity

2667
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,160
Speaker 3: texting John Gorley from Portugal the Man the other day

2668
01:48:36,160 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 3: talking about some tunes. All right, that right, that's my

2669
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:39,160
Speaker 3: god right there, alight?

2670
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:39,680
Speaker 4: All right?

2671
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 3: So he says this guy, Peter says, I hear that

2672
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:45,760
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three will be the Dead and Company's farewell tour,

2673
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:48,080
Speaker 3: so Otel if you feel like a night off, I'd

2674
01:48:48,120 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 3: be happy to quote fill in Phil like Phil Phil Lesh.

2675
01:48:52,360 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 4: You know I do love Otel, But I got to

2676
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:56,240
Speaker 4: tell you, I'm just not a fan of the Grateful

2677
01:48:56,280 --> 01:48:56,800
Speaker 4: Dead music.

2678
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 3: Okay. He was in the Alma Brothers too, the longest ratings.

2679
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,920
Speaker 4: Alman Brothers I have. Who did I see in concert?

2680
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 4: Was it the Almond Brothers? I saw drive by Truckers

2681
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 4: open for I think it was the Almond Brothers in

2682
01:49:09,320 --> 01:49:11,320
Speaker 4: Virginia Beach Nice. Yeah, I saw them.

2683
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 3: Charlie Daniels one time. Shit, dude, Charlie Daniels still brought it.

2684
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,599
Speaker 3: There's like two thousand and two he wrote three different

2685
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 3: songs about Dale Earnhardt's death and was playing them.

2686
01:49:20,800 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 2: It was like the most like a friend I had

2687
01:49:23,600 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 2: a friends, like a hardcore NASCAR fan. When Dale Earnhardt died,

2688
01:49:27,439 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 2: they you know how the Brits wanted us to care

2689
01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 2: about the Queen of a Yeah, it was like it

2690
01:49:31,200 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 2: was like, I just don't care, you know, I'm sorry.

2691
01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 3: The people in the South tried to make Dale Juniors

2692
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 3: or Dale Senior's death like Elvis's.

2693
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 4: In a way, it was like a super like like

2694
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 4: a head of state had died or something.

2695
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a p D from Schubin Kattie Nova

2696
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,200
Speaker 3: Scotia Schuman Caddy.

2697
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 4: Shubin Caddy, Uncle Gangbing.

2698
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:52,839
Speaker 3: Is this like the maritime area of Canada?

2699
01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:56,440
Speaker 4: Well, it's just it's over the That's where Jake Nipstan's

2700
01:49:56,479 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 4: from character. I think could you go to the next one?

2701
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:02,360
Speaker 3: All right, let's not this is danger mouse HBC.

2702
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:02,920
Speaker 4: I'm back.

2703
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 3: I figured if Mikey could take a vacation, so could I.

2704
01:50:05,400 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 3: Plus Mikey took a two week vacation.

2705
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 4: I mean, Mikey just was like, I'm not coming back.

2706
01:50:09,640 --> 01:50:11,560
Speaker 3: Plus you haven't been giving me much to work with

2707
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:13,920
Speaker 3: of late. If you could try and say more dumb shit,

2708
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:16,800
Speaker 3: that would be greatly appreciated. Anyway, just this one from

2709
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:20,799
Speaker 3: me the MK team at the first only Pipe social gathering.

2710
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:23,519
Speaker 4: Oh my am I not recognizing in the bottom right there,

2711
01:50:23,600 --> 01:50:27,720
Speaker 4: that's rave. That's rave. Oh jeeh my god.

2712
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 3: Look at this man.

2713
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:30,280
Speaker 4: I gotta tell you this is uncomfortable.

2714
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 3: There's a lot of men in that picture. Look at

2715
01:50:32,640 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 3: how chummy though A b A Bron and Danny are.

2716
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:37,599
Speaker 4: I'm also worried about Chuck, he's lost a lot of weight.

2717
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 4: That's not normal.

2718
01:50:38,600 --> 01:50:40,599
Speaker 3: I need a hand check on on Luke right there.

2719
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 3: I mean, look at you got your you got your

2720
01:50:42,240 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 3: hands right on.

2721
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 4: Ray Ay Sigurda is the one who's a little bit

2722
01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 4: too complacent.

2723
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:47,720
Speaker 3: I think he likes what AB can do for him

2724
01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 3: right there.

2725
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well wait, I tell you what our shots Dan Sigurda.

2726
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,000
Speaker 2: So he heard us talking about how my favorite fight

2727
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:56,680
Speaker 2: was Lesner Carwin. He actually had the poster for that unused.

2728
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,640
Speaker 2: He sent it to me mail a gift, unannounced, un

2729
01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 2: announce What.

2730
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 4: A guy like that. He's a real one.

2731
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:06,839
Speaker 3: Alan with an e. He says, 'tis the season for Halloween, donks,

2732
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:09,519
Speaker 3: Here are some horror inspired memes.

2733
01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 4: Hey, BC, you haven't said anything for forty minutes. Best

2734
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:19,840
Speaker 4: show ever. That's pretty good. Wait, come back?

2735
01:51:19,840 --> 01:51:21,320
Speaker 2: What was the crawl?

2736
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 4: You want to check? All right? What's next? I gotta

2737
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 4: blow it up? I keep him from here. I can't read.

2738
01:51:31,040 --> 01:51:33,160
Speaker 2: I have come here to vape and complain, and I'm

2739
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 2: all out of baby juice. This is from John Carpenter's

2740
01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 2: They Live.

2741
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that's Roddy Piper.

2742
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, bye way, great movie. John Carpenter did a

2743
01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:42,040
Speaker 4: good job with that movie. Great movie.

2744
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,120
Speaker 3: Alan has one more to close, he says in Last

2745
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:45,920
Speaker 3: Friday Show, I do like that movie. It's funny.

2746
01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 4: Yeah. In the fist fight with his friend in the alleyways, Yeah.

2747
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 3: Episode two thirty eight, during the Dead Wrong segment, Luke

2748
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:58,479
Speaker 3: said he has zero shame about begging, advocating, or whatever

2749
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 3: you call it for those ward votes. That's right, here's

2750
01:52:01,360 --> 01:52:02,719
Speaker 3: Luke campaigning for those votes.

2751
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 4: Hey, man, you got any votes? I got these cheeseburgers. Man,

2752
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:09,160
Speaker 4: come on, I'll op. I might have to do something

2753
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 4: a little bit unsavory.

2754
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 2: Are you talking about I might have to ad That's right,

2755
01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you metaphorically speaking, I'm happy to do that.

2756
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:18,160
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm happy to do that.

2757
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:19,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if we get the credit

2758
01:52:19,960 --> 01:52:23,959
Speaker 3: our fans deserve for making us the best sports podcast

2759
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:27,800
Speaker 3: I think globally from that last award and now from

2760
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:30,839
Speaker 3: the People's Choice podcast. Look, we're the best sports podcasts

2761
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 3: in the world.

2762
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:33,479
Speaker 2: Well, my favorite is how often works? Since out press

2763
01:52:33,520 --> 01:52:35,320
Speaker 2: releases about our successes.

2764
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all right. I mean, do you think

2765
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 3: we only won because our fans created fifty email addresses each?

2766
01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 4: Okay, so the answer to that question is yes, but each.

2767
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,360
Speaker 3: Award had different crime, like the most recent one they

2768
01:52:48,360 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 3: had only select.

2769
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,600
Speaker 2: Point is we obviously advocate. We probably do better than

2770
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:54,320
Speaker 2: we ordinarily would by virtue of advocating. I have no

2771
01:52:54,439 --> 01:52:59,360
Speaker 2: doubt that's true. But if your listeners or viewers are

2772
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:03,519
Speaker 2: still willing to do all of those steps, that's the story.

2773
01:53:03,680 --> 01:53:06,760
Speaker 2: The story is that they're that loyal, that committed, that

2774
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 2: they lift us up that high. That's that's the story.

2775
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 2: That's the story.

2776
01:53:10,520 --> 01:53:12,600
Speaker 4: Everyone wants to make it out about us, us, you know,

2777
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 4: banging pots and pans for it, which we do.

2778
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,360
Speaker 2: But the real story is you can bang that all

2779
01:53:17,439 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 2: day if people don't care, it doesn't mean anything.

2780
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 4: The fact is that they care.

2781
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:22,760
Speaker 3: Name seven MK fans that you like a lot.

2782
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 2: Okay, well you can exclude my family. Let's see danger Mouse. Yes,

2783
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:30,600
Speaker 2: j Piquett, Yes, Rejieve.

2784
01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 3: Well you're just like the last three.

2785
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 4: That's four, right, Bill and Jen.

2786
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 3: I've heard from them.

2787
01:53:40,360 --> 01:53:42,800
Speaker 4: I know they kind of they kind of have fallen off.

2788
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:44,799
Speaker 4: And then this is easy webscream.

2789
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 3: All right, all right, that's I couldn't name.

2790
01:53:48,520 --> 01:53:50,719
Speaker 2: Anyone else here on staff that that would be. Would

2791
01:53:50,760 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 2: you agree that he likes racist socco.

2792
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 3: We talk a lot about that, the m K Donk

2793
01:53:54,240 --> 01:53:55,880
Speaker 3: of the year running, and don't forget two years ago

2794
01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,320
Speaker 3: it was Webscream. Last year it was Damien the Donk

2795
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 3: who had the tattoo. The year we always talk about

2796
01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:07,879
Speaker 3: David Appleton J Piquet. Right, are we forgetting Christian Deguero

2797
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 3: who not only showed up to our live show in

2798
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,760
Speaker 3: Vegas but wore the MK badge on his d.

2799
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 4: Is that snick? Yeah?

2800
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,840
Speaker 3: And he wore an MK shirt while sparring with Tony

2801
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 3: working out with Tony Ferguson.

2802
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:26,720
Speaker 4: That's pretty that's pretty good. I mean pretty good. That's

2803
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 4: pretty good.

2804
01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 3: What do you think?

2805
01:54:28,920 --> 01:54:29,120
Speaker 4: Hold on?

2806
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 2: Hold on, if he's watching, can you send me footage

2807
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 2: of the fight? I would love to see it.

2808
01:54:32,840 --> 01:54:34,480
Speaker 4: Can we do a dissected on his fight? I would

2809
01:54:34,480 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 4: happily do that. Yes, I would happily do that.

2810
01:54:36,920 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 3: So here's the deal. In the past, I think the

2811
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:41,960
Speaker 3: first two years, the votes were obvious. We knew who

2812
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:43,600
Speaker 3: was going to win. We didn't even vote. It's like, oh,

2813
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 3: it's web Scream, it's the other guy, you know, Damien.

2814
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 3: I sent you some of Damiens stand up comedy. He

2815
01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:49,000
Speaker 3: was very dick heavy.

2816
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:49,640
Speaker 4: I did watch it.

2817
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, this year they have stepped up so much, not

2818
01:54:54,240 --> 01:54:57,280
Speaker 3: just in voting us into every award possible. We may

2819
01:54:57,360 --> 01:54:59,720
Speaker 3: win Best Supporting Actress soon. Because these people are so crazy,

2820
01:55:00,600 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 3: we should do an award show almost like a debate

2821
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 3: where they come on on zoom and they you know,

2822
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,440
Speaker 3: they get a chance to debate their case to be

2823
01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 3: Donk of the Year and then I can just hang

2824
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 3: up on them and then we let like the fans

2825
01:55:11,800 --> 01:55:13,760
Speaker 3: vote live. Do we have some like apparatus where people

2826
01:55:13,800 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 3: can vote live during our our like live studio episode

2827
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,480
Speaker 3: where I mean we can't fly him in and do

2828
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 3: and we can't do high Court with them, but they

2829
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,839
Speaker 3: can get high if they want. Would you be interested

2830
01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:26,080
Speaker 3: in some like blowout end of the year to not

2831
01:55:26,120 --> 01:55:27,560
Speaker 3: only do you do you have to prove that you're

2832
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:28,760
Speaker 3: the dunk. You got to come on our show and

2833
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:32,760
Speaker 3: explain exactly why Russell from Georgia's in this conversation that's

2834
01:55:32,800 --> 01:55:33,720
Speaker 3: the Elvis guy Russell.

2835
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 4: This might surprise you.

2836
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 2: My answer to that question is yes, I would be interested.

2837
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 2: I would be interested in doing that. I wouldn't mind

2838
01:55:39,160 --> 01:55:40,480
Speaker 2: giving back to the fans that way at all.

2839
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, as long as I don't have to

2840
01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 3: touch them as long enough to really give back to

2841
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:45,000
Speaker 3: the fans, As.

2842
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 2: Long as you are one foot distance at our one hour,

2843
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 2: one arms like distance at all times.

2844
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 3: Please, Hey, don't forget that that old guy who's who

2845
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,240
Speaker 3: got their first at a live show in Vegas and

2846
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:54,920
Speaker 3: sat in the front row with his tattooed wife.

2847
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:55,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were nice.

2848
01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:58,080
Speaker 3: That guy was real nice. Like it's possible that that

2849
01:55:58,120 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 3: guy could end up in a window in a hotel

2850
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 3: overlooking a country concert one day. But I liked them,

2851
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:09,120
Speaker 3: all right, if this is our last show, it was

2852
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 3: a nice run. I mean, that's the best two hours

2853
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 3: of your day. You gotta, you gotta, all right, we'll

2854
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:16,160
Speaker 3: be back on Friday. By the way, Chuck, mindon Hall

2855
01:56:16,280 --> 01:56:17,600
Speaker 3: is the indicator we'll be here later. We got some

2856
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:19,440
Speaker 3: special stuff we're gonna shooting for you guys that will

2857
01:56:19,480 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 3: be out very soon.

2858
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 2: I want to remind you you can reach the show

2859
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 2: Morningcombat at gmail dot com. That'll be for Friday's dead

2860
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:27,920
Speaker 2: wrong or today's fan subs. But next Wednesday anyway.

2861
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 4: Uh, let's see.

2862
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:30,440
Speaker 2: Showtime dot com is the label that pays go to

2863
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:32,120
Speaker 2: Showtime dot com get a thirty day free trough.

2864
01:56:32,200 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 4: You'd like it, you can keep it.

2865
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 2: If not, you can bounce shouts to money Lion for

2866
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:38,720
Speaker 2: giving the show money right moneylon dot com slash Morning

2867
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 2: Combat money and there's uh info in the description box.

2868
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 4: So we're looking forward to that. Only hammer.

2869
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 3: We got a new we got a new thing, right

2870
01:56:45,360 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 3: the hammers hammer time you.

2871
01:56:46,640 --> 01:56:48,160
Speaker 2: Can you could drop the Holy Hammer thing, but you

2872
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 2: can follow us on socials there, including TikTok. There's the

2873
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 2: old TikTok right there for Morning Combat PC. Any final thoughts, I.

2874
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:56,120
Speaker 3: Love being in the studio.

2875
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:56,960
Speaker 4: Let me like it.

2876
01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:58,720
Speaker 3: Look there's a lot about me that you don't like,

2877
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:01,000
Speaker 3: but seeing across from there in the studio is the

2878
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 3: time that you're most like most.

2879
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,880
Speaker 4: Things about you. Oh thank you, that's a lot I

2880
01:57:06,040 --> 01:57:06,400
Speaker 4: like something.

2881
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 3: Just the people in my house that don't no, they're

2882
01:57:09,280 --> 01:57:09,800
Speaker 3: very supportive.

2883
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 4: I love you.

2884
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,480
Speaker 3: My my wife and kids would have been in that dock.

2885
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 3: They just refused to be. That's that was the difference. Yeah,

2886
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:17,240
Speaker 3: So Zoe and Molly the animals showed up. A lot

2887
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,280
Speaker 3: of people say where's Reggie Jackson. You know, it's a

2888
01:57:19,320 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 3: good point.

2889
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,080
Speaker 4: It's a good Reggie Jackson. So Molly got a new

2890
01:57:22,160 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 4: dog bed.

2891
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:25,600
Speaker 3: But Reggie Jackson now sleeps in there all morning, so

2892
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:27,800
Speaker 3: he doesn't show up during our showtime anymore and cry

2893
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:28,360
Speaker 3: like he used to.

2894
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:33,080
Speaker 4: So he's my daughter does So there's that. All right,

2895
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 4: let's see. That is it for me?

2896
01:57:35,320 --> 01:57:37,480
Speaker 2: That's it for Brian Campbell, the King of Connecticut. We'll

2897
01:57:37,480 --> 01:57:39,160
Speaker 2: talk to you guys on Friday.

2898
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:40,800
Speaker 3: And if you don't even know that guy in the court,

2899
01:57:40,800 --> 01:57:41,840
Speaker 3: you don't even know if he's working anymore.

2900
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 4: He's alive. I don't even know if he's alive.

2901
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. That's why I haven't seen.

2902
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:47,680
Speaker 4: He looks like someone at the train station every time

2903
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,040
Speaker 4: is just living on the bench.

2904
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 3: How about how about that hotel down the road, the

2905
01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:52,720
Speaker 3: high House they put.

2906
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:54,920
Speaker 4: You an eye up with. They put us under the

2907
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:55,760
Speaker 4: truck Saturday night.

2908
01:57:55,840 --> 01:57:59,120
Speaker 3: They put us the room we were next to each

2909
01:57:59,120 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 3: other that over look the train platform. So like your

2910
01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 3: eye level with the train, with the people that are

2911
01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:05,480
Speaker 3: up on the platform about to get on a train.

2912
01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:06,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let me make my how this worked.

2913
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 2: If the people arguing didn't keep you awake, the train

2914
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 2: rattling the entire building would.

2915
01:58:13,560 --> 01:58:15,080
Speaker 4: So thanks to the folks at.

2916
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:16,520
Speaker 3: The I may have screwed us because when we checked in,

2917
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 3: I was like, could you give us that room? You

2918
01:58:18,520 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 3: know that room that the corner was like, they have

2919
01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:23,760
Speaker 3: a corner room that the glass goes from Florida ceiling

2920
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,960
Speaker 3: on both walls looking at the Manhattan skyline.

2921
01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 4: It's like, you can get it. It's tremendous.

2922
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't.

2923
01:58:29,320 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 4: They gave us the opposite one of that doesn't matter

2924
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:31,360
Speaker 4: of fact.

2925
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:34,160
Speaker 2: All right for Malka for showtime for CBS Sports, that's

2926
01:58:34,200 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell and Luke Thomas.

2927
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,200
Speaker 4: We'll talk to you guys on Friday. Until then, may

2928
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 4: all of your gains be loyal