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Speaker 1: This is a young team. We're on the cuss. Why

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Speaker 1: we got to add some pieces to what we're doing here.

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Speaker 2: Pierce running right, You pend't no barrels was way down

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Speaker 1: What are run by? Piers?

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Speaker 3: The type of players that we're looking for are players

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Speaker 3: who are looking to sworm.

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Speaker 1: Set us out there, Christian Harris.

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Speaker 4: Game day is every day.

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Speaker 5: Ticked off by State le Portray.

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Speaker 6: Texans have the ball on the pit, the.

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Speaker 3: Takeaway train is rolling and if you want it, you

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Speaker 3: gotta go work.

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Speaker 4: No, it's Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: What's happening? Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome into a Monday initiative Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Glad to be with you.

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Speaker 3: And if it sounds like I'm a little horse and

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Speaker 3: don't have maybe quite the energy that I had over

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Speaker 3: the weekend while the draft took it out of us,

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Speaker 3: what a weekend it was.

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Speaker 1: Nine new Texans, eight trades, man, what a weekend it was.

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Speaker 3: Glad you're joining me, John Harris football on at the

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Speaker 3: sideline reporter and we are going to catch up with

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Speaker 3: Nick Caserio, who obviously instrumental with all those eight trades.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk to him right now.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations on the draft.

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Speaker 2: How have you recovered from it, gotten some sleep, few

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Speaker 5: How's it been since?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we were all worn down, I think Saturday night,

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Speaker 7: so myself included. I actually talking to Miko about it

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Speaker 7: this morning as well, So I think we both got

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Speaker 7: a good night's sleep Saturday night, and yesterday it was

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Speaker 7: kind of a quiet day. Sunday was a quiet day,

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Speaker 7: and then today we're kind of recalibrating and just kind

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Speaker 7: of moving forward offseason program. We'll look at some options.

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Speaker 7: I think out of the draft is over, you likely

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Speaker 7: see some movement in the league with some other players,

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Speaker 7: maybe some players that didn't sign in for agency, some

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Speaker 7: that's kind of the next phase here as we continued

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Speaker 3: Okay, when you and I talked after your pre draft presser,

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Speaker 3: I kind of joked about the number of trades, Joe,

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Speaker 1: It's almost like you took that as a challenge. Eight trades.

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Speaker 3: You almost made more trades than you did draft players.

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Speaker 1: Eight trades.

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Speaker 3: But if you look at every one of them you

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Speaker 3: have you start to understand why you ended up doing it.

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Speaker 1: But Nick, let's start at the top.

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Speaker 3: That trade that everybody's been talking about, the one that

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Speaker 3: That trade, how did that all come together with the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say probably Thursday night when you when

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Speaker 7: you're in the first round, I would say those trades,

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Speaker 7: going back to twenty twenty two, we were involved actually

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Speaker 7: it's really about positioning relative to players, and as we.

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Speaker 8: Approach Thursdays, we had a little bit closer.

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Speaker 7: We had discussions internally about if this was an option,

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Speaker 8: Would be and with whom it would be. So we talked.

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Speaker 7: But then after two quite frankly, nobody really knew what

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Speaker 2: What is that ten minutes like it's got to be

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Speaker 7: Yeah, MANI called my cell phone, so it was a

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Speaker 1: Nick, we'll talk to you about the players.

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Speaker 3: Well, that one about about trading, because you did trade

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Speaker 5: But the fact that you speak the.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the trades really end up coming down to compensation.

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Speaker 7: All the above mark, So when you get to Saturday,

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Speaker 3: Speaking of conviction, and I don't know if you can

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Speaker 7: there's literally a thousand things that get plastered up on

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Speaker 7: There's a lot of discussion agent community, agent to media,

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Speaker 7: we position them accordingly on the board. We've just signed

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Speaker 7: There's not one particular thing that you can put your

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Speaker 8: So it's not easy.

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Speaker 7: Not every player has those qualities, but part of our

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Speaker 2: Well, we're opening in a new chapter of the Alabama

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Speaker 8: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 7: So the quality of players, the quality competition, you know

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Speaker 3: Apparently reaching out on Instagram works too, because Tank Dell

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Speaker 8: Nick, absolutely, without question. It's funny you bring that up.

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Speaker 8: Do you have any thoughts on them? Okay?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good question mark. I think improvement is

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Speaker 3: And what kind of drives the way the people that

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Speaker 7: And there's many instances where Demiko asked, Hey, what do

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Speaker 7: you think of so and so, and they have the

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Speaker 7: information right at their fingertips right, So it's just a

442
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Speaker 7: kind of and it's important to engage that group because

443
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Speaker 7: they've put a lot of time, a lot of effort,

444
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Speaker 7: and we're gonna utilize the resources that we have.

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Speaker 8: So everybody kind of has a certain role within the room.

446
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Speaker 7: So on the college side, it's really more in the

447
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Speaker 7: college players and maybe some players in your area and

448
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Speaker 7: some of the background.

449
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Speaker 8: That you've done.

450
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Speaker 7: We have the pro scouting staff in there that's provide

451
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Speaker 7: a sort of an overview and analysis of each team

452
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Speaker 7: about what their perceived needs may be. And then Demiko

453
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Speaker 7: and myself and then we kind of it's a very

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Speaker 7: i Dolmans say lively is probably too strong of a term,

455
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Speaker 7: but there's a lot of dialogue that is going throughout

456
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Speaker 7: the course of the draft, so we're looking at their

457
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Speaker 7: options we're looking at whatever's our next move based on

458
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Speaker 7: the players that come.

459
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Speaker 8: Off the board. So we try to keep it business

460
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Speaker 8: like but not be so.

461
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Speaker 7: Uptight that we can't operate, and just try to maintain

462
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Speaker 7: a certain level of consistency and just try to maintain

463
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Speaker 7: a clear head.

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Speaker 8: And it's kind of like a game. You can't get

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Speaker 8: too high, can't get.

466
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Speaker 7: Too low, and you just have to be ready to

467
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Speaker 7: react to the circumstances whatever they may be.

468
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Speaker 2: When do you shift gears during the draft process to

469
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Speaker 2: the undrafted free agents, it's got to happen while the

470
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Speaker 2: seventh rout is maybe still going on right Nick, And

471
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Speaker 2: I know you'll release the list probably before Rookie Mini Camp,

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Speaker 2: but that's got to be a process onto itself, and

473
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Speaker 2: it's a very different kind of acquiring of player, no question, And.

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Speaker 8: A lot of that goes back to agent relationships.

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Speaker 7: So I'd say that's probably that drives it more than

476
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Speaker 7: anything else else. And some people know your team better

477
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Speaker 7: than others. No, realistically, are they going to get an opportunity?

478
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Speaker 7: Are what you tell them, what the team tells them.

479
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Speaker 7: Is that really going to come to fruition or not?

480
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Speaker 7: So as you work towards the end of the draft,

481
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Speaker 7: and even some of the players that you're looking up

482
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Speaker 7: there going well, you might get drafted. Okay, if he doesn't,

483
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Speaker 7: we'd like to have him in free agency. So then

484
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Speaker 7: you kind of shift gears after that. So I think

485
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Speaker 7: we added nine undrafted players, and actually leading up to that,

486
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Speaker 7: we probably take the month of April and say, all right,

487
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Speaker 7: here are the players that may be in that category,

488
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Speaker 7: and then really spend as much time on that group.

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Speaker 7: So what same thing, kind of building a board of

490
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Speaker 7: that group. All right, here's one through eight. If you

491
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Speaker 7: have the opportunity to get these top four guys, we'll

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Speaker 7: take any one of them. Okay, if we go lose

493
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Speaker 7: the top four, we're okay with this group here. And

494
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Speaker 7: then try to gather information and intel as you go.

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Speaker 7: You're talking, Look, you're talking to agents all throughout the

496
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Speaker 7: course of the spring. Some have a better feel about

497
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Speaker 7: where their player stands relative to others. Try to use

498
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Speaker 7: that information, try to have an idea, and then look

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Speaker 7: at our team. And then as we're going, we have

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Speaker 7: X number of spots before the draft that we've allocated.

501
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Speaker 7: All right, so we draft two receivers, So maybe that

502
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Speaker 7: mitigates the need for the number of receivers that we

503
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Speaker 7: thought going in or offensive line, we had nine on

504
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Speaker 7: the team I believe going in ended up drafting two,

505
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Speaker 7: so we knew we were gonna probably want to add

506
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Speaker 7: three or four or five to try to get to

507
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Speaker 7: fourteen or fifteen. So then you start to have to

508
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Speaker 7: shift gears or where are we going to be sort

509
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Speaker 7: of volume based? Where are we going to kind of

510
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Speaker 7: be case by case. Then that goes back to the

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Speaker 7: agent relationship that you have and their willingness to trust

512
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Speaker 7: what we're telling them is accurate.

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Speaker 3: I don't even know how you were able to draft CJ.

514
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Speaker 3: Stroud without having gone to his pro day. I say

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Speaker 3: that tongue in cheek, but the pro day process in itself,

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Speaker 3: Nick is I mean, you've been to hundreds of them

517
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Speaker 3: along the way. Is there something you'd like to see

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Speaker 3: added or change with the pro day process to give you, guys,

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Speaker 3: maybe even more information along the way.

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Speaker 7: By that point, I think you probably have as much

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Speaker 7: information as you need. You're kind of trying to solidify

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Speaker 7: some things. I think what's happened is certain schools are

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Speaker 7: going to just attract more people because there's more volume.

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Speaker 7: So in the case Alabama in the case Ohio State

525
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Speaker 7: in the case of Georgia. When you go to those

526
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Speaker 7: pro days, the benefit is you get to see a

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Speaker 7: large swath of people work out. Now, having said that,

528
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Speaker 7: some players choose to stand on their combine workout, so

529
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Speaker 7: whether or not they actually work out at their pro day.

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Speaker 7: So when you go to a pro day, you're probably going,

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Speaker 7: I would say, just speaking from a personal perspective, if

532
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Speaker 7: you're going for a very specific person and specific reason. Candidly,

533
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Speaker 7: some of this has gotten to a point where it's

534
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Speaker 7: a little bit for show.

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Speaker 8: It's kind of made for TV.

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Speaker 7: So kind of have to take a step back and

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Speaker 7: really keep it more on the evaluation and focus more

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Speaker 7: on football. And then where are we an evaluation process?

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Speaker 7: What else do we need? How can we get that?

540
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Speaker 7: Is there another mechanism that we might be able to

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Speaker 7: get that information? So say those are case by case,

542
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Speaker 7: but I think, excuse me, the networks had set it up.

543
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Speaker 7: They went from CJ to Bryce to Will and you know,

544
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Speaker 7: it becomes a little bit made for TV event.

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Speaker 5: But don't you want them to put on a good show?

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Speaker 2: Right? I pro found it interesting In the press conference

547
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Speaker 2: on Friday, CJ and he had a little fun with

548
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Speaker 2: you and everything with the flowers, all of the other stuff.

549
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Speaker 2: I like that, and when you meet with them, when

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Speaker 2: you have your visit, you must like some of that

551
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Speaker 2: as well. Seeing the personality and how they interact with people.

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Speaker 7: Whoever they are, that's what you're gonna get on a

553
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Speaker 7: day day basis. So their personality, that's what's going to

554
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Speaker 7: walk into your building. So I think what's happened Not

555
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Speaker 7: to come to the defense of some of these kids,

556
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Speaker 7: but they go through a lot from March April visits, workouts,

557
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Speaker 7: zoom calls. Honestly, they just want to know where they're

558
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Speaker 7: going and have some degree of certainty. Then they can

559
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Speaker 7: kind of exhale a little bit and say, all right,

560
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Speaker 7: it's time to go and maybe be a little bit

561
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Speaker 7: more who they are, not that they're guarded when they're

562
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Speaker 7: in their buildings.

563
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Speaker 8: Some are who they are, which is what you want.

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Speaker 7: So if they're the same person at the Combine interview

565
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Speaker 7: as they are at the pro day as they are.

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Speaker 8: In a thirty man visit, that's who they are as

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Speaker 8: a person. Great.

568
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Speaker 7: So some well, And it's interesting because information travels well.

569
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Speaker 7: One experience one place is different than another. Team's experience

570
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Speaker 7: with them, So which one is it? So that's when

571
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Speaker 7: you have to go back and say, all right, do

572
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Speaker 7: we trust our information, do we need to dig a

573
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Speaker 7: little bit deeper?

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Speaker 8: Is there a way that we can do that? And

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Speaker 8: I'd say that's.

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Speaker 7: Where the last one to two weeks where the Area

577
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Speaker 7: of Scouts are very beneficial because they can really drill

578
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Speaker 7: down and we push them and challenge them and they

579
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Speaker 7: deliver a thousand times out of a thousand, and by

580
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Speaker 7: the end of it, you sort of have a profile

581
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Speaker 7: and you have a conviction and say, all right, you

582
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Speaker 7: know what, in the end, this is what we're going

583
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Speaker 7: to have and we feel good about it.

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Speaker 8: All right, Then move on to the next player.

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Speaker 3: Nick, your area of scouts you just mentioned them, they

586
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Speaker 3: get a chance to bring. Now what's kind of their

587
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Speaker 3: time frame do they get Because when you're going through

588
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Speaker 3: this whole draft, I mean by Sunday everybody was exhausted,

589
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Speaker 3: but it's kind of like, all right, what do we

590
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Speaker 3: do now?

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Speaker 1: That was such a high.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's on such a high during a draft, especially for

593
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Speaker 3: the Area of Scouts. What's kind of their plan of

594
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Speaker 3: attack over the next month or so before they start

595
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Speaker 3: going to campus and the.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they'll head back home to wherever they live.

597
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Speaker 7: You know, we have one or two I think that

598
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Speaker 7: are local, but the focus is on kind of, you know,

599
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Speaker 7: their family, their personal life, and but they'll start to

600
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Speaker 7: do some spring scouting here, so we'll start to look

601
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Speaker 7: at the twenty twenty four draft prospects. It's really not

602
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Speaker 7: at a breakneck speed, but you're just the more work

603
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Speaker 7: you can do in the spring, it just kind of

604
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Speaker 7: takes some of the heavy lifting off once you start

605
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Speaker 7: training camp. So I'd say that's kind of going to

606
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Speaker 7: be their probably plan of action'll you know, we'll have

607
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Speaker 7: some folks in the building here, maybe rookie mini camp

608
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Speaker 7: or maybe at a veter mini camp at some point,

609
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Speaker 7: because then we're going to look at our process or

610
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Speaker 7: our grading scale or our system and say, are there's

611
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Speaker 7: some things that we can improve. Here are some of

612
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Speaker 7: the changes that we made, new scheme, new system. So

613
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 7: hearing some of the vocabulary or hearing some of the vernacular,

614
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Speaker 7: what's important to the coaches. So that's where they can

615
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 7: use this time. We can all use this time to

616
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 7: kind of learn, take an opportunity to kind of take

617
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 7: a step back some more than others, but then it's

618
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Speaker 7: an opportunity for us to learn a little bit more

619
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Speaker 7: and engage in education about kind of what we're doing

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Speaker 7: as a team.

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Speaker 2: We're about six eight weeks away from the summer break,

622
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Speaker 2: so when do you and have you made the decision

623
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Speaker 2: on where you spend that time? That time off a

624
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Speaker 2: couple two, three weeks, however long it is.

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Speaker 7: Nick, Yeah, No, we're probably stick to our plan. I

626
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Speaker 7: think we have an idea of what we're going to do.

627
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Speaker 7: I don't know if we're going to do any exotic

628
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Speaker 7: this summer. So we know we have another I don't know,

629
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Speaker 7: six weeks left here in spring, so our kids will

630
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Speaker 7: be done with school fairly quickly, so they'll be off

631
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Speaker 7: of school and we'll still have another month that will

632
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Speaker 7: work ahead of us. So can't do too many things

633
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Speaker 7: until Dad's done. So once that's done, then all bets

634
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 7: are off and then it's just about them and you know,

635
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Speaker 7: we'll try to get away here and enjoy our time.

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Speaker 2: All right, best of luck with the rest of the

637
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Speaker 2: off seas. Nick, thank you very much.

638
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Speaker 8: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what would happen if Nick would

640
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: have gone to Ohio State Pro Day I mean they

641
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Speaker 3: have drafted CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud at all. I don't know. I say that tongue

643
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: in cheek, of course.

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Speaker 3: All right, we get back Mark and I had some

645
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Speaker 3: things to say about some of the draft picks and

646
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Speaker 3: some of the things that happen.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that next right here. Texas All Access.

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Speaker 4: Chicksen's Radio continues in a moment, back to the show

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Speaker 4: they'd teach you plugged in with the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to money edition of Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: John Harris, Sons, Mark vandermir.

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Speaker 3: We have been on the radio a lot, a lot

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Speaker 3: a lot lately, Mark, but that was great to catch

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Speaker 3: up with Nick, who I would imagine not so much

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Speaker 3: a sigh of relief. But it's on to the next.

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Speaker 3: That was kind of the feeling I got, just onto

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Speaker 3: the next. What's next?

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Speaker 2: Well, what's next is really exciting. I mean, the draft

660
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Speaker 2: is exciting to get these players, but what's really exciting

661
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Speaker 2: the football people is to watch them play, watch them practice,

662
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Speaker 2: developed them.

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Speaker 5: And Nick has some coach in him.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he's been a coach, and I think he's

665
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Speaker 2: as eager as anybody to see these guys on the field.

666
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Speaker 2: You already have the vets on the field right now,

667
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Speaker 2: then you get the rookies on the field late next week,

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Speaker 2: and then you put them all together after that, and

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Speaker 2: that's going to be fun to watch. We all want

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Speaker 2: to watch that. I think the veterans themselves, Johnny. That's

671
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Speaker 2: the one thing I did a refresh on this weekend,

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Speaker 2: and you and I talked about this a bit last week,

673
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Speaker 2: is who they've added prior to the draft as far

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Speaker 2: as veteran acquisitions, either be a trade or free agency.

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Speaker 5: And it's excited because they.

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Speaker 2: Improved every position group on the team, every single one.

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Speaker 5: I guess, no specialists. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There's a report that they signed an undrafted free agent

679
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Speaker 2: long snapper, but I'm talking about the free agents themselves

680
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Speaker 2: here talking about quarterback with Case Ketam in the room,

681
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Speaker 2: all right, I mean, I know they just got CJ. Stroud,

682
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Speaker 2: but to have Case in the room. And by the way,

683
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Speaker 2: Case will be on the show tomorrow at six, looking

684
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Speaker 2: forward to that. And you look at defensive backs, linebackers,

685
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 2: we went over all of them, offensive line, running back.

686
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Speaker 2: They signed players at every position group to make this

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Speaker 2: team better. And let's see how it all comes together

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: It was kind of fascinating.

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Speaker 3: He you obviously on radio, can't see you know, Nick,

691
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Speaker 3: kind of smiling and laughing. But I asked me a

692
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Speaker 3: question about the pro Day thing about Ohio State. Of course,

693
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Speaker 3: I was kind of poking at everybody because, oh, you.

694
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Speaker 1: Didn't go to or you didn't go to Prodey. I'm like,

695
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Speaker 1: oh my god, what's gonna happen?

696
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: And Josh mccow's gonna play horse with c. J. Stroud,

697
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Speaker 2: which there's no way you can possibly get him or

698
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Speaker 2: I would want.

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Speaker 3: Him exactly, and he's gonna end up here. And I

700
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Speaker 3: think there's so much I I was talking to somebody

701
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Speaker 3: about this this morning, and there was so much smoke

702
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Speaker 3: to everything that was going on. So much And Demiko

703
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Speaker 3: said it on the draft broadcast.

704
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Speaker 1: Came from the ESPN NFL network.

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Speaker 3: We saw pop up on the screen when we were

706
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Speaker 3: finish up the draft broadcast, and he just said, Nick

707
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Speaker 3: and I kept those conversations confidential with us when they

708
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Speaker 3: stayed with us and we locked it away.

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Speaker 1: And the impact that it had throughout the.

710
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Speaker 3: League was incredible, just to see media members trying to

711
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Speaker 3: figure out what the heck was going on, everybody thinking

712
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Speaker 3: why I talk to this source, Oh it's this, it's

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Speaker 3: got to be this.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's got to be this, and it's got to

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Speaker 1: be that.

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Speaker 3: And in the end it was what those gentlemen thought

717
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Speaker 3: was best for the team, which was what everybody had

718
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: talked themselves out of, except for one man, Ian Rappaport.

719
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Speaker 3: He just didn't know which quarterback was going to be.

720
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Speaker 3: He just couldn't see it being anything other than a quarterback.

721
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Speaker 3: And well, thankfully it turned out to be CJ. Stroud,

722
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Speaker 3: Dame Brugler of the Athletic Our good fen, Our good friend.

723
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Speaker 3: He put together draft classes, ranking them one.

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Speaker 1: To thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Ooh, how far down do you think you have to

726
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Speaker 3: go before you get to the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Dane did, but I know they

728
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Speaker 2: got a lot of bees from a lot of people.

729
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: The Texans got a lot of bees because of I

730
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Speaker 2: guess the price it took to move up to three

731
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Speaker 2: and take will Anderson junior. And that's what the national

732
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Speaker 2: people look at, people who have never drafted anybody in

733
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Speaker 2: their lives or really had to evaluate with their jobs

734
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Speaker 2: on the line. I mean, the media can say what

735
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Speaker 2: they want about evaluating players.

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Speaker 5: But they're not graded on that.

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Speaker 2: They're graded on how entertaining and how many clicks they get, right, correct,

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Speaker 2: So I would say that it's a twelve.

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Speaker 5: That's the ranking for the Texans. Eleven or twelve.

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Speaker 1: Okay. Number one is the Philadelphia Eagles.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people loved what the Eagles did because

742
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Speaker 3: they ended up drafting the entire Georgia defense. It seemed like,

743
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Speaker 3: because they drafted Jalen Carter and Nolan Smith and they

744
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Speaker 3: got one of my faves.

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Speaker 1: Or no, they didn't get Christopher Smith. They got Kei

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Speaker 1: the Ringo in the fourth round.

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Speaker 5: But they're grading on a curve here.

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Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, because the Eagles are already a terrific

749
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Speaker 2: team and they've added terrific players. But if the Texans

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Speaker 2: had done exactly what the Eagles did, there's no way

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Speaker 2: they're being ranked number one in this whole process.

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Speaker 1: No, but they're ranked number three.

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Speaker 5: Oh, Dane ranked the Texans number three.

754
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I thought he was going negative here,

755
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Speaker 2: k Dan, thank you.

756
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Speaker 3: Very much, ranked them number three. Uh, this is what

757
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: he had to say about the Texans. He said his

758
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 3: favorite pick was Cee just Stroud. He said these rankings

759
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Speaker 3: focused just on the players added, not a trade value.

760
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Speaker 1: Of compensation given out.

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Speaker 5: Well, you didn't tell me that.

762
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Speaker 3: I didn't know either, I didn't know what I read. Unsurprisingly,

763
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Speaker 3: then the Texans ranked pretty high. They landed to the

764
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Speaker 3: best players in the draft class. Will Anderson Junior is

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Speaker 3: a cornerstone player that Houston can build around, but Stroud

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Speaker 3: gives the organization an exciting future at the sports most

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Speaker 3: important position.

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Speaker 1: Number three. Guess number two.

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Speaker 5: Was uh, don't yes? The Colts?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Because they got Anthony Richardson and he loves him.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: Culture Chris Baller definitely have a tight big athletic players

774
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Speaker 3: will high end trades. Who said that Josh Downs must

775
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Speaker 3: have been a Shane Steichen pick. That focus paid off

776
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Speaker 3: in this draft class to start in the first round.

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Speaker 3: The Richardson, who brings the level of excitement to an

778
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Speaker 3: offense that has been stuck on veteran on the veteran

779
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Speaker 3: quarterback carousel.

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Speaker 1: This success likely won't.

781
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Speaker 3: Be immediate, but over time will be fun to track

782
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Speaker 3: his development and the athletic profile. The Ris scores for

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Speaker 3: these guys is off the charts for every single pick

784
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Speaker 3: that he made, and he made two four, six, eight,

785
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Speaker 3: nine to nine after pick one hundred. I want to

786
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Speaker 3: go back to the the the trade.

787
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Speaker 1: It was something that we talked about. Nick. Here's a

788
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: little math. Just here's a little math. Okay.

789
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Speaker 3: So the Texans got back a fourth round pick they

790
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Speaker 3: turned into a three next year.

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Speaker 1: So essentially those cancel each other.

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Speaker 3: Out, right, because a three that you gave up in

793
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 3: the Cardinals trade, you essentially got back in the Eagles trade.

794
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: So that kind of canceled each other. Yes, that's even okay.

795
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Speaker 3: So if you look at it from the standpoint of

796
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Speaker 3: what actually you gave up, now, twelve turned into three,

797
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: so you gave up thirty three and you gave up

798
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Speaker 3: a first round pick next year. So if a first

799
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Speaker 3: round pick next year is considered second round pick basically

800
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Speaker 3: just by draft value, okay, the number three spot was

801
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 3: worth twenty two hundred points according to the draft value chart,

802
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 3: just the old school draft value chart. Number three is

803
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Speaker 3: worth twelve twenty two hundred points. Number twelve pick, which

804
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: we had, is twelve hundred points. That's pretty easy math.

805
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: That's a thousand points, right right. Number thirty three was

806
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: worth five to eighty.

807
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Speaker 2: So you still need a big so you need a

808
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 2: big chunk of like four to twenty.

809
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 3: Well, guess where four to twenty puts you right smack

810
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: dab in the middle of the second round.

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Speaker 6: You're kidding, No, I'm not. I'm doing math right there, right,

812
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 6: I mean for everybody to see. But they added a

813
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Speaker 6: first round or for next year. But no, I'm saying

814
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Speaker 6: that's a second round of converted into one.

815
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Speaker 1: That's kind of how it gets converted. Okay.

816
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Speaker 5: Sean brought this up this morning.

817
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Speaker 2: If they're picking third again or second again, you know,

818
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: somewhere in the top three because it was third last year,

819
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 2: something's gone horribly wrong, right, correct.

820
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Speaker 5: I think we all agree on this.

821
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Speaker 2: Yes, that they have to up in the record considerably

822
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 2: this year, no doubt. And you know, for Damiko Ryans,

823
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: as far as he's got six years.

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Speaker 5: He doesn't have six years. He knows this. The clock

825
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: is ticking.

826
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Speaker 2: He knows he wants to get it done quickly as possible.

827
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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know what the expectations are internally

828
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 2: for this year, but they're higher than three wins. I

829
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: can tell you that. Yeah, so let's see where it

830
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: takes them.

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Speaker 3: I just the thought process to me about man, they

832
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: gave up way too much the draft value. Charte essentially says, no,

833
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 3: they did exactly what they should have done. But Johnny people,

834
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Speaker 3: I know, I know, I just that's the frustrating aspect

835
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Speaker 3: to me, is just that that the bottom line is this.

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Speaker 5: They loved will Anderson Junior. They loved him. Are they wrong?

837
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Speaker 5: Time will only tell.

838
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,359
Speaker 2: But they loved him and they felt like they had

839
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Speaker 2: to have him. That is very evident to everybody watching.

840
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: That's so transparent that they loved him so much that

841
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: they were willing to do what they did along with

842
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Speaker 2: the quarterback.

843
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Speaker 5: And that is huge to me.

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Speaker 2: You get those guys in the building right now, let's go.

845
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Speaker 2: So by year two or three you're seeing enormous dividends

846
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: paid off and maybe sooner but we'll see. And they

847
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 2: did what they did for obvious reasons. They didn't trade

848
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Speaker 2: their only first rounder. I got another thing here. If

849
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Speaker 2: they only had one first rounder next year, I don't.

850
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Speaker 5: Think they're doing this, but I agree to agree. So

851
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 5: they said, you.

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00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: Know what, instead of waiting, we have the twelfth pick,

853
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Speaker 2: which is nice, but you know it's really nice the

854
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: third pick. So it's going to cost us our mid

855
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: first round pick next year because that's what it could

856
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Speaker 2: be in order to move up and take this terrific

857
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: player is going to be a stalwart who's going to

858
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 2: be a pillar of what we are building here. That's

859
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: the belief. Now, if they turn out to be wrong,

860
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: they're gonna be wrong, but that's the belief.

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Speaker 5: They went for it.

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Speaker 2: They and look, I love the conviction, right and I

863
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: think the fans did too. It's reflected in the reaction

864
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Speaker 2: at the draft party and beyond.

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Speaker 5: So let's see where it goes.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, let's see where it goes. All Right, we

867
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Speaker 3: get back, we'll go around the NFL. Anything that's happened,

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Speaker 3: we'll cover next right here on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 4: Stay tuned for more on the Houston Texans and the

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Speaker 4: NFL on Texans All Access. We returned to Texans All Access.

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Speaker 3: We want to find a segment of this edition to

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Speaker 3: Texans All Access from the Texans Radio studio. I'm John Harris,

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Speaker 3: Football and sideline reporter. Glad that you are with me

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Speaker 3: this evening.

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Speaker 1: It was great to catch up with Nick Cassari now

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Speaker 1: something the.

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Speaker 3: Team won't announce that I always find one of the

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00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 3: most fascinating times. And of course there's a lot of

879
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 3: reasons why you don't announce it. But since we're on radio,

880
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: we can we can discuss a little bit. But keep

881
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 3: in mind this is always subject to change. Guy may

882
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 3: and I've seen this happening. Guy just retires, just doesn't

883
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 3: play football anymore, doesn't want to play football anymore. So

884
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: the undrafted free agent that you thought he was gonna

885
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: be is act actually not that guy. So apparently the

886
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 3: text two four, six, eight nine signed nine undrafted free agents.

887
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: I think that math works, leaving I believe two or

888
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 3: three spots on a ninety man roster. Now you heard

889
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: Nick say there may be some action coming up here soon.

890
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, whether there is or or there isn't.

891
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: I remember last year there was Rashid Green, there was

892
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 3: Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison, three edge rushers, after not really

893
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: addressing it in the draft, going and getting those three

894
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: edge rushers to add to John Grenard, et cetera. So

895
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: so kind of take this with a grain of salt.

896
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 3: Up people reporting this some a lot of times you

897
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 3: get them from the colleges. The colleges end up putting

898
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: out these graphics, and the colleges do a great job

899
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: kind of promoting their guys, which I absolutely love.

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00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: So as of what.

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00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 3: I know right now and what people know right now,

902
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 3: here are the nine undrafted free agents. There is a punter,

903
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: so I'm okay with as an undrafted free agent. Joe

904
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 3: Doyle from Memphi, offensive lineman from Auburn. And this guy

905
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: is really really interesting Killian zero. He I wrote up

906
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: his scouting report gosh, kind of late in the process.

907
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 3: I remember seeing at at Auburn and I thought he's raw,

908
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: and I was like, what's up with this guy? So

909
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 3: he kind of got put to the back burner in

910
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 3: some respects. But he's a whale of an athlete and

911
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 3: he could be really really interesting Killian.

912
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Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying that right, Killian or Killian. Killing

913
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Speaker 1: is a.

914
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Speaker 3: Year which a lot of times ours get next to

915
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: one another and it gets kind of it gets kind

916
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: of rough. Now, this guy's got the six to seven

917
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Speaker 3: plus thirty four inch arms, eighty three inch wingspan, and

918
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: he played soccer over in Germany growing up, and he

919
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 3: came to the States, got a scholarship to go to

920
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: College of the Canyons out California. You call American Torres

921
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: ACL then you have COVID mixed in, but he ended

922
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 3: up starting a little bit stiff and raw. But as

923
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: an athlete, my goodness, Uh, he's got some ability. It's

924
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: off as the lineman tackle, we think the tackles a

925
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: pretty set, but yeah, you know, you never know. So

926
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Speaker 3: killing Zier also under offens lineman Dylan death Ridge Hope.

927
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that right. San Diego state wide receiver.

928
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Speaker 3: Jesse Matthews defensive back from Duke Darius Joyner LSU Edge,

929
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: Ali Gay.

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Speaker 1: And I remember seeing him as senior Bowl very be strong,

931
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Speaker 1: place hard, relentless guy.

932
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 3: It's not have a lot of twitch, but strong, always

933
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Speaker 3: kind of grunting and grind through things.

934
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Speaker 1: It's just kind of the way he goes through things.

935
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Speaker 3: I think it's probably why he wasn't drafted, just because

936
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Speaker 3: he kind of lacks that twitch. But he's heavy. I mean,

937
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: he's a heavy handed guy. Two sixty five can move

938
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 3: a little bit, so he'll be here. Ali Gay from

939
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 3: LSU Jared Wayne's received from Pitt that I liked in

940
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Speaker 3: his process.

941
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: I tried to think of a good comp for him.

942
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if I have a good comp, but

943
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: good size sixty two sixty three can go up and

944
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: get it, made some plays with Kenny Pickett, and then

945
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 3: Keaton Slovas this year Wisconsin offen to tackle Tyler Beach.

946
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 3: And then of course the guy I know a lot

947
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Speaker 3: of people are talking about Xavier Valde from out of

948
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Speaker 3: Arizona State, who I.

949
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Speaker 1: Remember for Wyoming. I remember watching him at Wyoming thinking

950
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Speaker 1: who this guy's got something to.

951
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 3: Move to Arizona State, went to East West, had a

952
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: really good week at East West, and Valde joins the

953
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Speaker 3: Texans as they get him in the undrafted free agent process.

954
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: Now, those can all be subject to change. Guys may

955
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: feel physical, some guys might just retire.

956
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 3: Some guys may take an offer somewhere else kind of

957
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: late in the process. But apparently as it is right now,

958
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Speaker 3: according to sources, those are your undrafted free agents for

959
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 3: your Houston Textans. All right, big thanks to Mark of course,

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00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: the GM that Caserio. We'll see tomorrow everybody, and as always,

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Speaker 3: go Texans.

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