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Speaker 1: Hey, Cowboys Hour, our regular stop in Frisco at the

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Speaker 1: Star District is a sidecar social. We're thrilled to be here,

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Speaker 1: and we're and I mean that, we're thrilled to be here. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: there's nowhere else. That is what Harbaugh's dad say, Where

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Speaker 1: else would you rather be? This is just a great

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Speaker 1: opportunity tonight to enjoy some fine food and beverage seventy

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Speaker 1: five screens with no matter which direction you turn, there

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Speaker 1: will be two football games and baseball playoffs going on tonight.

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Speaker 1: Where else would you rather be? Besides, We've got Cowboys

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Speaker 1: defensive tackle Solomon Thomas with us. So thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you for coming.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you, apprecid you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I am I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do this

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Speaker 1: right at the beginning. If you don't know Solomon Thomas's story,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about football. We're gonna talk about a

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Speaker 1: lot of things. I'm not gonna get overly melodramatic, I promise,

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Speaker 1: but Solomon Thomas is and I choose my words carefully

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Speaker 1: because that's how I make my living. Solomon Thomas is

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Speaker 1: one of the great human beings that's played this game

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Speaker 1: and the reason I say that is what he's done

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Speaker 1: and is doing with his life is going to impact

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Speaker 1: people in a positive way way above what football can do.

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Speaker 1: And well, if you don't know why I'm saying that,

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna let you take a peek behind the

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Speaker 1: curtain before we're done. So I'm honored to have you here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much. We always welcome all of you who

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Speaker 1: have come to join us at Sidecar Social. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much, regulars and first timers, and delighted to have

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Speaker 1: those of you who are joining us on the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Radio Network and those of you who are streaming

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Speaker 1: wherever and whenever on Dallascowboys dot Com. But I have

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Speaker 1: a question. I don't think Ivan is If Ivan is

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Speaker 1: our producer engineer and he keeps us going, I don't

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Speaker 1: think you're in charge of these cameras, are you. Paul's

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Speaker 1: in charge of the camp. So let me just ask

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Speaker 1: you this. There's one camera there that is pointed kind

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Speaker 1: of almost like a two shot on Nicole and Sally,

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Speaker 1: and there's one that would be kind of a three

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Speaker 1: seems to be shooting up at the ceiling. Is that

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Speaker 1: on purpose, Paul, is that it's going. It's getting the crowd.

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Speaker 1: It's turned around and getting the crowd. There we go.

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Speaker 1: That's why you ask questions to get educated and learn things.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Paul.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to get creative today.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just I looked up and I said,

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Speaker 1: what the hell is that shooting? I don't understand that?

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Speaker 1: But okay, now I do. Now I understand it. So

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Speaker 1: for the for Solomon's benefit and those of you who

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Speaker 1: have not necessarily been with us before, when we celebrate

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Speaker 1: victory Monday, we celebrate it as big as we can.

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Speaker 1: And when it's not victory Monday, we acknowledge that there

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Speaker 1: was a game played, and we'll talk a little bit

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Speaker 1: move forward. How about that? Because I was thinking about

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Speaker 1: this today. I think it was church Hill who said,

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Speaker 1: when you're going through hell, keep going, right? Is there

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Speaker 1: any other way to get out of a funk, a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you just gotta like you said, Churchill said, just

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Speaker 2: on the same page. But it's not lose faith, not

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Speaker 2: waiver on our goal. Our goal doesn't change our processes

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Speaker 2: and you know the light will come.

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Speaker 1: What's your I'm sorry, no, please?

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Speaker 3: How do you personally reset with losses like this?

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Speaker 2: You know, uh, last last night, I mean two, a

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Speaker 2: So you know, and and in the sport, we sacrifice

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Speaker 2: and then then from there just going on in the film,

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Speaker 2: seeing seeing the game for what it was, no emotion,

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Speaker 2: And then you know, to you know, the big thing

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Speaker 2: the whole week, the next Sunday you're going to be off.

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Speaker 2: So I need to make sure that hey, I accept

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Speaker 2: the whole week to get better on the things that

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Speaker 2: I didn't think I did well, to make sure that

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Speaker 1: You guys have good players, and some of the things

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Speaker 1: that were happening yesterday, it happened maybe some of the

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Speaker 1: second half of the Jets game. That's not who you are.

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Speaker 1: Matt Abram Fluss has been a really good coach in

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Speaker 1: not get dumb overnight. So clearly there are some things

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the the I mean, the really important

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Speaker 2: forward with that. I think that's always always the biggest

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Speaker 2: making sure every one's in the same page, whether it's

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Speaker 2: the good thing about the things are happening. Everything is fixable.

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Speaker 2: It's not not this skill is lacking or the talent's lacking.

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Speaker 2: It's we're messing up. We're we're beating ourselves right now,

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Speaker 2: and so everything that we're doing is fixable and we

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Speaker 3: What's been the message from you and guys like Kenny

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Speaker 3: that's the only thing that I know how to do.

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Speaker 3: So what's been the message for some of those young

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're so lucky to have a guy like Kenny,

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Speaker 2: I mean, the player, he is, a leader, he is

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's someone who you know, I've watched his

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Speaker 2: you know, get your coverage right, like you know, there's

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Speaker 2: and we're not putting great film out there right now.

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Speaker 2: So that's a frustrating part. It's like, you know, if

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Speaker 2: we're not playing to our level. That's when it gets frustrating.

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, hey, we have to hold guys accountable.

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Speaker 2: We have to get back to work, be intentional, grind

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Kenny, when he was acquired from Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: knowing that Solomon and Kenny both been in the league

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Speaker 1: for a while, and Sally was coming in. I said,

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Speaker 1: did you know Kenny before? And you said yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Kenny hosted me at my official visit to UCLA

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Speaker 2: when he was I think a freshman there.

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Speaker 1: So he must have done a terrible job, because you understand.

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Speaker 2: Kenny did a great job. I mean, we had a

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Speaker 2: good time. He showed me you're on campus. He's always

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Speaker 2: been a really, really nice and fun dude. So Stanford

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Speaker 2: was just about choice for me. But no, no harm

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Speaker 2: in UCLA. I love all my Bruins, jay Osa, Kenya

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Speaker 2: are all great guys.

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Speaker 1: But you, I mean you, you never played with him before,

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Speaker 1: you'd never been teammates, because you got a lot of

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Speaker 1: You've got a lot of personality traits in common. It

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Speaker 1: seems to me. Is that a fair assessment?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, all right, I'm terribly distracted before I go on.

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Speaker 1: I have absolutely become besotted with this garment that Solomon

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Speaker 1: is wearing. This is for those of you on listening

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Speaker 1: on the radio. This appears to be a pullover white

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Speaker 1: pin striped and it looks like the navy hoodie with

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Speaker 1: the long sleeves that's sewn in that's part of the garment,

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Speaker 1: and so there it says it's a pin stripe like

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Speaker 1: a Yankees baseball jersey, except it says Cowboys the upper

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Speaker 1: left chest. There's a big D on the right shoulder.

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Speaker 1: What's on the left shoulder? Anything? The star Star? Where

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Speaker 1: did you get that? And how do I get mine?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 2: I just got at the Pro Shop.

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Speaker 1: I mean is it a pro shop?

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Speaker 1: We're a sidecar Social in the Star District. Welcome back,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so I lived in Nobody cares about

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Speaker 2: so I was really struggling with that. So that was

436
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Speaker 2: something that you know, I've learned from a lot in

437
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 2: my career. And then just like really just like how

438
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: to handle losses, how to when everything seems like it's

439
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 2: going down, like just to keep going and to keep

440
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 2: buying in the process and what that actually looks like

441
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: and it's not just like you know, you're telling yourself

442
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 2: keep going, but it's hey, like, Okay, it's Monday. After

443
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 2: five losses in a row. Are you going to get

444
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: up and do the same routine? Are you gonna cold tub?

445
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: Are you going to get in the hot tub? Are

446
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,479
Speaker 2: you gonna sauna? Are you gonna like still go over

447
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: your plays? Are you gonna still show up and be

448
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 2: the same person locker room every day, whether it's a

449
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: win or loss. And so that's what I learned the NFL, Like,

450
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 2: being a leader is not you know, being a great

451
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: player on the field. You have a lot of great

452
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: players in the field who aren't great leaders, but you

453
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: have guy The great leaders, to me are the ones

454
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 2: who come in win or loss, no matter how their

455
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 2: body feels. I'm the same person every single day in

456
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: the locker room, and you know they're doing the same routine,

457
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: same workouts, same recovery, same mental study, and still holding

458
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Speaker 2: the same standard for their teammates.

459
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Speaker 1: I alluded to this before, but this is a good transition.

460
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Speaker 1: I think to remind people that you have you have

461
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 1: devoted a lot of emotion and personal investment for the

462
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: cause of mental health, and one of the reasons is

463
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: you've been public about the fact that you struggled with

464
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Speaker 1: depression a little bit. When you go from third picking

465
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Speaker 1: the draft to what, we can't win anything, and where

466
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: do I fit in? And what is that? When you

467
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: I had a started feeling like mental health was something

468
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Speaker 1: that you were gonna have to pay attention to.

469
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there was a lot of things that

470
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: kind of led to that. You know, I lost my

471
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Speaker 2: sister's suicide thatth and eighteen, right after my rookie year.

472
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Speaker 2: And then you'll come from college, you know, winning, come

473
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 2: to the league, you know you're losing, You're not playing

474
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: the position that you think you're invest at, and you know,

475
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 2: knowing nothing about mental health growing up, like you know,

476
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: in the locker room, everything's like be tough, be strong,

477
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Speaker 2: and be a man. And then you know your sister

478
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: dies and you're now also struggling at the same time

479
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 2: trying to find your own way in this new life

480
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: and new lifestyle that you've didn't know that you were

481
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: going to be thrown into. And now I'm like, mental

482
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Speaker 2: health is like surrounding my life and I don't know

483
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: how to you know, approach it, and so it was

484
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Speaker 2: it took me a lot of like sad nights, hard nights,

485
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: depressed nights, like to get to a place where, you know,

486
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Speaker 2: you find out what mental health is and you go

487
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 2: get help and you go to therapy and you learn

488
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Speaker 2: how to you know, accept your emotions. You know, you

489
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 2: learn how to feel them, you learn you learn how

490
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Speaker 2: to like that there's ways to get better and like

491
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Speaker 2: from that, you know, just learning how mental health and

492
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: physical health are the same thing. And so that was

493
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 2: like a big thing for me. Like, hey, like if

494
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: I hurt my ankle, I'm gonna rehab it, and like

495
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 2: the same thing with my brain. Like, so you know,

496
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: that was a big thing for me because I was struggling,

497
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: but I wasn't attending to my brain. And then when

498
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: I tend into my brain somehow in the middle of

499
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: the season, I would start playing better, I would start

500
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Speaker 2: feeling better. And you know that's when I learned that, hey,

501
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 2: it's all connected, and like, you know, therapy is just

502
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 2: as important of for me as do my film study.

503
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: You know, So that really was a huge thing for

504
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Speaker 2: me my first year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just so you know, I asked these questions from

506
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Speaker 1: the perspective of someone who has been in therapy on

507
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Speaker 1: and off for more than twenty years, and I don't

508
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Speaker 1: know if i'd be I don't know if i'd be

509
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Speaker 1: functional with without it. So it's I wish we Like

510
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Speaker 1: I'm making this list, the older I get of things

511
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Speaker 1: I wish I'd been told when I was younger. So

512
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Speaker 1: here's number five, and that is I wish I wish,

513
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Speaker 1: as you're saying, you got into a locker room and

514
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Speaker 1: found out that was not okay to say, I'm really

515
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: kind of struggling, Yeah, it is, and I wish we'd

516
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: been told that when we were all younger. Okay, So

517
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: we're going to take our next break, and then we're

518
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: going to figure out how you go, how you handle

519
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: against all that backdrop, going from the Niners to the

520
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 1: Raiders to the Jets, with a major injury being thrown

521
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: in in there, and it's all fascinating to me, and

522
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: it helps make you who you are today. Sitting here

523
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: in that dad gum sweatshirt that I have. Don't know

524
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Speaker 1: if I can wait until tomorrow to go get at

525
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys pro shot Nicole. Who else must we thank

526
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Speaker 1: for the opportunity to be here?

527
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Speaker 3: That's what I'm here for, Luke Casey, I'm just kidding.

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Speaker 3: Stand tall all your tailgating or cheering in the stands

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Speaker 1: Line Cowboys Hour at Sidecar Social at the Star District

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Speaker 1: and Frisco. We'll be right back. I'll tick three, oh.

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537
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Speaker 1: We're at Sidecar Social in the Star District. Thank you

539
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: very much for being with us wherever and whoever you are.

540
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm Brad Sham with Nicole Hutchinson, Solomon Thomas, the Cowboys

541
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle, our very special guests. Please give him all

542
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: of that and more so. This whole process of adjustment

543
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: professional adjustment fascinates me because there was so much adversity early.

544
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: As you've just outlined. Clearly, you didn't stop loving playing football,

545
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: because here you still are and still playing a high level.

546
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: But not only so you got to the Super Bowl

547
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers, and then they decided not

548
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: to use the fifth year option on you, so you

549
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: wind up going to the Raiders. And by the way,

550
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Speaker 1: what year was it that you tore up your knee?

551
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Your third year?

552
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: That was my fourth year, so it was a year

553
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: they didn't sign my fifth year option. So I went

554
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: back to play my fourth year basically as a contract year.

555
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: You had a great camp, everything, come out to the

556
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 2: second game and tear my well, my entirety. Yeah, and

557
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 2: then that following year, after the next offseason time with

558
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Speaker 2: the Raiders.

559
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: The timing sally right there for that. So, but did

560
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: discouragement I'm just talking about professional what you envisioned your

561
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: career would be, not just as a kid in high school,

562
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 1: but the third pick in the draft, and now it's

563
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: not kind of it's not terrible, but it's not great

564
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: according to what maybe you were an imagining. How did

565
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: you handle discouragement and turn it into positivity?

566
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that was something I really struggled with

567
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: my first couple of years in the league, you know,

568
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 2: going through my own off the field like depression and

569
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 2: then like my own like expectations of what I envisioned

570
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: this all to be so it was all like expectations, discouragement,

571
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: doubt was something that I really struggled with. And then

572
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: you know, after like in therapy, understanding like you know

573
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: a lot of work where all these are coming from,

574
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Speaker 2: like from fear, from like you know, failure, all these

575
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: things into really looking at it, like what's the worst

576
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: thing that can happen? Like I'm out here living my dream,

577
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: playing football, playing it past longer than I ever was

578
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: supposed to play, and paying it, playing it past high school,

579
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: past college. I'm getting paid to do something that I love,

580
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: so like to really like break it down, like to

581
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: eliminate all outside noise, to like, you know, all the

582
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: people tweeting at me, you know, all the mean things

583
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: all like the social media. Hey, I got for years

584
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 2: to tune all that out and to understand like what,

585
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: like the only thing that matters is as long as

586
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: I'm it to continue to play and continue to play

587
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: the way that I know how to play it. And

588
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: so once I got back to that in my mindset,

589
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I love this game. Like

590
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 2: I took the business side out of it. I found

591
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: a way to compartmentalize it and make football football, and

592
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: once I was able to do that, like I was

593
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: able to like to just go full out, no shame,

594
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: no anything, to go go hard for my job, go

595
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: hard for what I love, and you know, go hard

596
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: for what I believe in myself.

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Speaker 3: Aside from therapy, who else kind of did you lean

598
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Speaker 3: on during that time to kind of get you through

599
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 3: that discouragement?

600
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Speaker 2: Definitely my parents. You know, my parents have been you know,

601
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: by my side my whole career. You know, they don't

602
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: they really don't miss too many games, and but they're

603
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: just people that can be like very transparent with you know,

604
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 2: and so like throughout that time, like they're always lifting

605
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Speaker 2: me up. You know. Then, like we said, we talked

606
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Speaker 2: about therapy. But then just like I have a group

607
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 2: of like close friends from home from Coppell, like who

608
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: you know would always be encouraging me, like, hey, like

609
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: just remember who you are, like sending me my high

610
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: school highlights, sending me my college highlights, like don't forget

611
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 2: who you are at any time in the process. And

612
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 2: then always even though like she wasn't hearing my sister,

613
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: I was totally on her old notes, from her old

614
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: text messages, from her things of her telling me like

615
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: what she believes of me and who she thinks I am.

616
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 2: Always just kept me going during that time in my

617
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: first couple of years in the league.

618
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: What's your favorite message that you looked back to that

619
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 3: your sister left you.

620
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 2: I actually have a new one about. I think it

621
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: was the Packers game. You know, my fiance she dresses

622
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: me and gets me right before games, and she chose

623
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: a pair of boots that I had in storage in

624
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: Vegas for a whole bunch of years. I hadn't worn

625
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: since I was in college. And I go in there

626
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: and I pull out a note and it was just

627
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: my sister telling me, brought a note to my parents

628
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: to tell me something, and it was her telling me, like,

629
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: always remember how important it is to be a great

630
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: teammate and to go out there and excuse my language,

631
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 2: to kick ass and take names and so like.

632
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Like a physical.

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00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the boots that my parents must have put

634
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: in there during the moving process, but I had never

635
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: seen it before, and it was it was it was Yeah,

636
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: it was emotional, sweet, uplifting, uplifting for sure. Yeah.

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00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to dwell too much on this, but

638
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: it is a part of your story and you have

639
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: been brave to share it with with everyone. Things like

640
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: losing a child or losing a close loved one who

641
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: took their own life. Those must be the most devastating

642
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: personal things that can happen to a person. You were

643
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: so young still when that happened, with where you were

644
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: in your own mental health journey at the time, how

645
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: did you even begin to process that?

646
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: And I think that was the hardest thing for me

647
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: is I would I would block it off as much

648
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 2: as I could. There was a lot of feelings and

649
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: emotions I had never felt before, you know, depression, grief,

650
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: a lot of anger, a little bit yeah, like mad

651
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: at myself, mada her, the survivor's guilt. All that is

652
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: extremely real. So just dealing with a lot of that

653
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: was so I didn't know how to address it so

654
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: off because push it down and try to act like

655
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: I was fine on the outside. I was like, you know,

656
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, I can't come out here

657
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: and tell people I'm depressed or tell people I'm sad

658
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 2: because they expect me to go perform, and you know,

659
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 2: and I was like, where I was in my career,

660
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: anything I said was going to be an excuse for

661
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: my performance. So you know, I just would do that

662
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: all the time, and then you know, it just would

663
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: fester and turn into you know, just my whole world

664
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 2: turning dark. And then from there, you know, I realized

665
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 2: I was in a really bad place. I need to

666
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: get help.

667
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: How'd you find the courage to finally get help?

668
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing, it wasn't even just me.

669
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 2: I can't take all the credit for it. You know,

670
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 2: my mom was pushing me to get help, and I

671
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: would tell her no, like I'm fine, I don't have

672
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: time for it. But my general manager, John Lynch to me,

673
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 2: came to me at the time and he told me, hey, Sally,

674
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: like we got you if you need help, like you know,

675
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: we we can, we can help you out. And for me,

676
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 2: that took all like the weight off my shoulders and

677
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: like having to be this strong man and act like everything.

678
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 1: Was okay because he's a tough guy.

679
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: He is, yeah, and he is and and so just

680
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: like for him to come tell me that like gave

681
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: me all the permission in the world that I needed

682
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: to go get help. But so like now, but that's

683
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: the thing that I try to go tell when I

684
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: talk to people, I try to give them that permission, like, hey,

685
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: help is the strongest sign of courage you could get,

686
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 2: you give yourself. I try to tell them that, like,

687
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 2: you know, just go get help, Like you know, there's

688
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: so many people out here who want you here and

689
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: who love you. Because I wasn't even able to do

690
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 2: that myself, I leaned on other people to help me.

691
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: And the thing is that's another thing you can't do

692
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 2: it by yourself. So that's why help is there for you.

693
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 1: You know what it strikes me is I'm listening to

694
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: you say that many of us who have long careers

695
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: professional athletes, you know, people in the arts and especially

696
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: with public lives, it can be easy for that profession

697
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: to become your identity, to become who you are. And

698
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: it sounds like this whole process has, in an interesting way,

699
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: kept you from seeing yourself as football defining who you are.

700
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: Is that right?

701
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's say so. And it's something that I

702
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: definitely struggled with, Like early in my career, I was

703
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: like I would struggle with like being able to identify

704
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: who I was because I was putting everything in all

705
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: of me into football and trying to figure it out,

706
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 2: like what's going wrong. Why am I not playing well?

707
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: You know? Why am I playing out here? Why are

708
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 2: we losing all this? And so I had to find

709
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: to find happiness in my life. I had to find

710
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: happiness outside of football. And that was first with getting

711
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: right with myself, addressing the things I was going through,

712
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: how to handle them, and then just pass that. You know,

713
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 2: understand that there's a bigger picture out here. And just

714
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: to say there's a bigger picture I hear does not

715
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: mean I don't give my all to my job. Like

716
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 2: I'm fully dedicated and disciplined in my job. But I

717
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: understand when I pour in other areas of my life,

718
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 2: I'm a better football player because I'm investing in myself.

719
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 2: When I'm investing in my identity. So when I work

720
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: with my foundation, or when I do charity work, or

721
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 2: when I spend time with my fiance, time with my friends,

722
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: when I you know, do legos at home or bake

723
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: bread things like that, that is really pouring into me

724
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: as a person. And when I am full, I'm going

725
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 2: to be a better football player. But if I it's

726
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 2: like pouring to myself as a football player, and I failed,

727
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: and my whole world, my whole world ends, and I'm like,

728
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: where do I pick it up at? But when I

729
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 2: understand this more to my life and this football, I

730
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 2: can pick I can understand after a loss, hey, I

731
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 2: can get back on track and get I can get

732
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: back to my routine. I can go be my best

733
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 2: self like except the loss and move forward. So you know,

734
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 2: these are all things I've learned throughout the early years

735
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: of my career.

736
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 1: And finally the square this circle and we'll move on.

737
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: This is not why you're here, but what better a

738
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: place for you to come to that with someone like

739
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: Dak who has done so many of these things and

740
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: is like you brave to be out front with it.

741
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: I mean you you two are like a two man

742
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: justice league for this cause it seems today.

743
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Dak's been amazing, and you know, our foundations

744
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: were closer together. Dak and I have done a lot

745
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: of public service announcements for nine to eight, the Mental

746
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: Health Crisis Line, We've done a lot of help with

747
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: a FSP, the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention, But just

748
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 2: in general, like I just have a lot of respect

749
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: for the man, like he has gone through some you know,

750
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: tragedies in's life that you never want anyone to go

751
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: through and he has done nothing but you know, make

752
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: great change for it, get back to causes, been a

753
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: great human being, Watson Payton Man of the Year, and

754
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: then on top of that is a great leader, great

755
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: football player. So it's like, you know, what, what else

756
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: can a guy like that do to you know, just

757
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: prove how great he is?

758
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: And is it also correct that you have been mistaken

759
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: for him?

760
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 5: Oh?

761
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: Yeah?

762
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: Out in public, people see you out and they say, hey, Dak. Yeah,

763
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: how often does that happen?

764
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if we're out in public, it happens about

765
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: every day. Like it's even when I'm worth a team,

766
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: like and people are walking by for autographs, they they'll

767
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: assume I'm Dak. But it's happened since I got in

768
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: the league, so like ever since. I'll come home training

769
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: in the off season, training Dallas an offseason, and I'll

770
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: be out with my friends. If people like Dak, Dak, Dak,

771
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 2: You're like even NFL events people think I'm Dak. It's

772
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's funny.

773
00:41:55,280 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: Has anyone ever mistaken Dak for Solid Scott? Where's Scott A. Golling?

774
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna get the answer to that question. Has anyone

775
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: ever mistaken Dak Prescott for Solomon Thomas. It seems only fair. Well,

776
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna Wednesday. I'll try to get the answer to

777
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: that question. Solomon Thomas is are you see what I

778
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: meant at the beginning? But this guy, in my faith,

779
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: we call this man a mensch. We will be back

780
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: with more with Solomon Thomas and your questions, and Nicole

781
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: has some surprises for you. Think about that when we

782
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 1: come back on the Cowboys Hour.

783
00:42:32,280 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: Hey Cowboys men, Oh cowboys, No cowboys, No Cowboys.

784
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 6: To the millerte Cowboys Hour, supported by Albertson's.

785
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: And welcome back to Sidecars Social in the Star District

786
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 1: in Fresco. Brands Dam and Nicole Hutchinson and the great

787
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas. We're so happy to have all of you here,

788
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: very happy to have you here. Are you? Obviously you're

789
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 1: still having fun playing right?

790
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? I love the game. It's the sport. This job,

791
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 2: it takes too much of your life. It's too hard,

792
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: too much routine, too much discipline, too much dedication, like

793
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 2: persistency to like, if you don't love it, you can't

794
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: do this job the right way. And so like, I

795
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: fully love it. I'm fully into it and I'm giving

796
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 2: you it all I can.

797
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: What's the best thing about it for you?

798
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, the best thing about it is

799
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: you know, coming in like for me. So this is

800
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: why I've always on the game. It's a group of

801
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 2: guys like and in the NFL, it's even more so

802
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: because I'm new to the team getting to know like

803
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: new guys, new personalities. But at the end of the day,

804
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 2: we're also different in our ways, our world views, our

805
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: beliefs in life. We all come together to like one

806
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: common goal and that's still win the super Bowl. And

807
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: so like all the sacrifice you make, like I actually

808
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 2: believe if our society and our world acted more like

809
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: a football team, we live in a healthier society and

810
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: more peaceful and loving society. And so that's what I

811
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: love about football. To me, that's always been the greatest

812
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: thing to me.

813
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: Let's take some questions from the audience. You may start sir.

814
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 7: Good evening, Solomon.

815
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 2: My name's Rambo, Rambo. What's going on?

816
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 7: So mental health is very very important.

817
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: What is your go to.

818
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 7: Therapy that lets you unwind and just kind of makes

819
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 7: you feel good about just waking up every day? In

820
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 7: my case, my high in life is cooking for a

821
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 7: large amount of people, seeing the smiles on their face. Yeah,

822
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 7: that just gives me a lot of excitement and happiness.

823
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: What's your go to? And by the way, don't think

824
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: that we didn't hear the baking bread. Don't think No,

825
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: that's beautiful.

826
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: I love that you do that, and that's like that's

827
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 2: really sweet and sentimental. But I would say, like, for me,

828
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: it really is just being with the people I love.

829
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 2: So for me, like coming home for a long day,

830
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,320
Speaker 2: sitting on the couch of my fiance just talking.

831
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: She's here, Yes, she is here, Yes, thanks for coming,

832
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: thank you for coving.

833
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: And so it's just like just being with her, like

834
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: it's like it's my piece. That's that's that's where I

835
00:47:55,680 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: kind of uh like refresh, like recoup myself, get to

836
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: the back of the present moment and like am healing.

837
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:06,799
Speaker 2: So but yeah, you meditate, I do. Yeah, I do

838
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: some meditation.

839
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: Well how old were you when you started meditating?

840
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: My I would say my third year in the league,

841
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 2: I started using headspace. And I used to use headspace

842
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 2: like every day, I'm not I'm not my sorry. So

843
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: headspace is a guide of meditation app and I used

844
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: to use it every day and I haven't. My membership

845
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: ran out and I haven't been using it the last year.

846
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: But with my sports psychologists that I that I work with,

847
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: she sends me meditations to do on game day. So

848
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: I'll do a meditation first thing I do when I

849
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: wake up on game day, just to get grounded and present,

850
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: be my best self, be centered.

851
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: When you started meditating, did you find your mind going

852
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: all over everywhere?

853
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: Definitely? And I felt like I was failing at meditation.

854
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 2: But then when I realized that just trying to meditate

855
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 2: is meditating, it made me get in the flow of

856
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: it better and then like stop judging myself for like

857
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: it's this wrong. Yeah, yeah, so that's that took a while.

858
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 2: But like once you understand the meditation, that the skill

859
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 2: of meditation is to come back from the present moment

860
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 2: like a distraction, just letting you know, hey, come back

861
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: to the present moment and forgive yourself, give yourself grace

862
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 2: and get back from the flow.

863
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't, how No, you're fine. How long

864
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: do your meditations kind of last?

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00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 2: No, I'm only like a ten minute meditation person. There

866
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: was one year at the Raiders. I was working with

867
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: this my last sports psychologist, and he hooked me up

868
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: with the single point meditation person and so we would

869
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: do an hour alarm meditation where you stare at a

870
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: single point while he like guides you through feelings in

871
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: your body. It was I was It was hard, but

872
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: I really like the feeling from it. But I just

873
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: don't have time for my game.

874
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: Day, you know. You know it was a huge advocate

875
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: of meditation. Is ache. Okay, if you're gonna have two

876
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 1: Monday night games, you'll run into him a couple of times.

877
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: You have a conversation with him. He's now he liked

878
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: with everything he does. He gets a little obsessive sometimes,

879
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: but he's done things I could never dream of doing

880
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: in the in the meditative arts. But yeah, you'd be interested.

881
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: Let's take another question. Hell Little Solomon Larry from McKinney

882
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: Slash originally from Olpasa, Texas.

883
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 7: First off, congratulations were being selected at MVP of the

884
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 7: twenty sixteen Sun Bowl.

885
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: Thank you.

886
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: While you were there, did you try the local famous

887
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: Chico Stocks? If not, what was your favorite dish there?

888
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 2: I do not remember trying the famous tacos, but when

889
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: I whenever I go back, I'll try them. But I

890
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 2: would say my favorite time there. They took us out

891
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: to a ranch and they gave us. They gave us

892
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: all boots from Luke Casey and all this stuff, and

893
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 2: so it was we were out there eating steaks, dancing

894
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 2: as a team, and it was like my last time

895
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: in college with my teammates. So that was always like

896
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: a sacred moment for me. The Sumbow was absolutely amazing.

897
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: The way the community in town comes around it was

898
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: really cool.

899
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: You did hear him saying, Lucy, Yeah, thank.

900
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 3: You, Ivan, go ahead and hit our little special for

901
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: him because I did some digging right and I used

902
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 3: to do musical theaters. I saw your debut and Broadway,

903
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 3: so I wanted everybody else to see them.

904
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: Some of the pictures that I found.

905
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 3: You made your debut in MJ the Musical, So talk

906
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 3: about that.

907
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: When was that?

908
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: That was this off season?

909
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: I know it was in June. I'm a huge theater.

910
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: I would have waited and gone instead of going in they.

911
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I mean so I've always loved theater growing up.

912
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: When my parents put me and my sister and namil

913
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: Mary Connecticut from there, when we moved to Texas, I

914
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 2: just like grabbed onto it and loved it, you know,

915
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: the theater and Coppell. And then my freshman year I

916
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: actually had a chooser between doing select theater and football

917
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 2: because there are schedules collide. That chose football, obviously, but

918
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 2: I never lost a love for theater. Just like the

919
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 2: way through out there telling a story that you know

920
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: is not real, but they make the emotions of and

921
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 2: the feeling of the off feel real. I just thought

922
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: was always so cool. I was never too talented enough

923
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 2: to do it professionally, but I always admired it.

924
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 1: How do you know, had you tried?

925
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 2: Not really, I mean they just threw me in there

926
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: just for for fun. But it was uh. But when

927
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: I went back to New York, I wanted to reconnect

928
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: with that, and so I started going to shows again.

929
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: And then my second year there, Hard Knocks came out

930
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: and I took the team to Hard Knocks, and I

931
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: remember then I watched that I took the team the

932
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,919
Speaker 2: team on Hard Knocks to end of the musical and

933
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: end of the music. School is so thankful for that

934
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 2: shout out that they wanted to give me a goodbye

935
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,879
Speaker 2: gift when I left New York after three years, and

936
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 2: they wanted to give me just a little like, you know,

937
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 2: five minutes stint. And the show was a security guard,

938
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: so it was it was super fun.

939
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: You said, your parents put you and your sister in

940
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 3: it growing up. Do you have like a favorite show

941
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 3: that you did?

942
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: I did. I mean in middle school we did The

943
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz Powers of Presance. That that's where my

944
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: does sing.

945
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: I have consulted the highest authority in the room. Solomon

946
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 1: does in fact not sick. Other great strengths. Go ahead,

947
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: sorry interrupted, I mean.

948
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 2: I just like I just like being out there. It

949
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 2: was like fun. It was a different type of performance

950
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: to me, different type of like art. And you know,

951
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: I just like just always loved it.

952
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: I have made some very good friends who are outstanding actors,

953
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: many of them theater actors. You have not made your

954
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 1: last appearance on the board. I think that I see

955
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 1: you dabbling in the off season.

956
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 2: We'll see, we'll see some.

957
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: Great local theater around Dallas. Fort taking. This is a challenge,

958
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: this is your this is your next like tertiary career

959
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: or something like that. Bread go ahead.

960
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: I knew that I make I make Brad and my

961
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: mom started doing it during COVID and then she passed

962
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,959
Speaker 2: on to me and my third second season with the Jets.

963
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: It also was like a way for me to like,

964
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: you know, get out of football, be present in whatever

965
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:06,959
Speaker 2: I'm doing. And I just fell in love with making

966
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: bread and haven't made as many lows recently, but I

967
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 2: just ordered some starter should get here tomorrow. And my

968
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 2: fiance's favorite is a holo or cheddar loaf, So that's

969
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: the first one on the list.

970
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, yeah, yeah, again, I've consulted the highest

971
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: authority available in the room. We can confirm. What is

972
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 1: it about that that's that, by the way, is a

973
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: form of meditation.

974
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,839
Speaker 2: It seems to me, No, it definitely is. And to

975
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 2: me why I like bread. I started relating bread to football,

976
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: which you know, people might think is crazy, but to me,

977
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: like my whole time in this league, I was trying

978
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: to find myself and I really found my I had

979
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 2: my best season the year I started making sourdough, best

980
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 2: season of my career so far. And what I really

981
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 2: related to bread and football was in sourrough. There's so

982
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 2: many different ways to make sourdough, Like there's so many

983
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 2: different like techniques, processes. Everyone has their own perfect way

984
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: and at the end of the the end of the result,

985
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: you're still going to get a nice loaf. But for me,

986
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: I related to football as in the art of you know,

987
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: there's only one me, and there's only one way to

988
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 2: do it, like my way, and like I can't go

989
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 2: be Aaron Donald or I can't go be you know,

990
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: Michael Strahan. I have to do things the way that

991
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 2: Solomon Thomas does things. And so it just made me like,

992
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 2: you know, I have to put my own art to it,

993
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: my own twist to it, believe in it, be confident

994
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 2: in it, and you know, just find my kind of flow.

995
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 2: So that's like what Bred taught me in football.

996
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: You know, I just think it must be very as

997
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: a football player. Here you have the Christmas gifts for

998
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: all your teammates, solid personalized lope for everybody. Hey, thanks

999
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: for spending part of your evening with us, mad respect

1000
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: for what you do with your life and what you

1001
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 1: do on the football field. Solomon Thomas, everybody get him

1002
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: a big round of clause. And Nicole and I will

1003
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: be back, probably without a breadmaking actor, but we will

1004
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: be back next week at the same time. Here at

1005
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 1: Sidecar Social at the Star District, Frisco. On the next

1006
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: Cowboys Out