1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI he is. Well, 5 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: it's not Matt Williamson. 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, it is the Rob King. You get 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: the V in front of your name now because you 8 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: are the play by play announcer for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Congratulations, Rob, 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: well deserved. I couldn't be happier and we're happy to 10 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: have you here with me in. 11 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: The studio today. 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 3: I also might dad, you're gonna be at to real with 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 3: Matt and I. Yeah, at training camp starting Thursday. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. I'm so glad. I'm not. 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: I mean, look, I'm grateful, I'm honored all that stuff. 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 5: You know, I've said this to a couple of people. 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 5: You know, you don't replace Bill Hillgrove. 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, you succeed Bill Hillgrove if you follow Bill hillgro 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: If you're the next guy and and and that's you 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 4: can't even think about living up to that kind of legacy. 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 5: He's got just a great legacy. 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 2: I always tell him he's the voice of God. 23 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 5: You know what, I got to tell you something. 24 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 4: So we played a little bit of phone tag Bill 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 4: and I this morning, and I'm looking forward to to 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 4: talking with him and getting some thoughts on on the 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: role that I'm just thrilled to be joining. 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 5: And when I got his voicemail, I literally laughed out loud. 29 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 4: It's such a great voice. He just got the it's 30 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 4: the voice of voice. I mean, it's just I literally 31 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 4: I didn't leave a message. 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 5: I just laughed out loud. 33 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 4: So, I mean, look, I'm honored. I mean, this is 34 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 4: it's a thrill for me. Man, It's like a dream 35 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 4: come true. Of course, they're only thirty two, and there 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 4: aren't many Steelers out there, you know, there's only one 37 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 4: as far as I'm concerned, and so you know, to 38 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: be part of that and to continue. You know, I've 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 4: been here for twenty four years in Pittsburgh. I tell people, 40 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 4: but I wasn't born here, but I got as got 41 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 4: here as fast as I could and have never left 42 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: and never wanted to leave, and never do want to leave. 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: I think it's the greatest place on the planet. I 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: love the people, I love the fans. I could go 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: on and on about how much I love the people 46 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: and the fans at Pittsburgh and to be you know, 47 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: this job, the people that have come up to me 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: that I don't even know and shaking my hand and 49 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 4: said good luck. I mean, it's just it's everything about 50 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 4: it has just been wonderful and I can't wait to 51 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 4: get started. 52 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: You know, Matt and I were talking about this last 53 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 3: Friday when, you know, after the news broke, and I said, 54 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: you know, I've been this is going to be my 55 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: thirty second year covering the Steelers, and you'll be the 56 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 3: third play by play guy. And it's really much like 57 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 3: the Coach because it was Jack Fleming right before Bill. 58 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: I had one over one. 59 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: Year of overlap with Jack, and of course Jack went 60 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 3: way back and Bill for the last twenty five years 61 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: and now and now we're up getting maybe twenty five years. 62 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: Can you get twenty five years out of this show? 63 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: I'm hoping that there's a there's a young broad cast 64 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: or young media guy out there right now he's gonna 65 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 4: say the same thing. Well, I caught the end of 66 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: Bill and then I caught Rob's long career. 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 5: Let's hope. 68 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 4: But you know, it's interesting because people have said and 69 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 4: you can't really think about that right, Like, you know, 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 4: if you're replacing a great writer on a newspaper or 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 4: a great anchor on TV, you can't think in those terms. 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: You just have to be you. I'm a big believer 73 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 5: in that. 74 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: You have to be who you are, especially in this 75 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 4: towny this town, the BS meter is sharply tuned. Man, 76 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 4: they'll they'll spotch you if you're a fraud. You just 77 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: you have to be you. But it doesn't matter really 78 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: what job you take with the Steelers. You know what 79 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 4: Mark Cohn big shoes to fill, Mike Tomlin when he 80 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 4: took over for Bill Kauer, big shoes to fill. You 81 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: take a job with the Steelers, by definition, you have 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: big shoes to fill. 83 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: Oh, there's no doubt. I mean, Steeler fans are great 84 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: and in their vociferous with you know, with with with 85 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 3: both the comments. 86 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 5: Oh I did the call on show with Charlie this year. 87 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, But that's what makes that that's what that's 88 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: what gives us our jobs. 89 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: You know. 90 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: I know sometimes you know, some fans may think that 91 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: I'm preaching to them or whatever, But it's because of 92 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: the fans that were able to do what we do. 93 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: No question, I mean, no question, the fans are passionate. 94 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: The fans are into it. And again, as somebody who 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 4: you know played sports, my entire life took you know, 96 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 4: the noon game at the why the hoops game? 97 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 5: Probably a little. 98 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 4: Too seriously, I get that, you know who still gets 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 4: rankled on the golf course more than I should. I 100 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 4: should just be grateful to be playing. It's always been 101 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 4: sports for me, going back to when I was a 102 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 4: kid playing sports and being able to play a couple 103 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 4: of years of small college football. You know, It's it's 104 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: always been sports for me. And Pittsburgh's all sports. I mean, look, 105 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 4: I've covered the Steelers, I've covered the Penguins, I've covered 106 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 4: the Pirates. The Pirates, you know, when they were great, 107 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 4: it was phenomenal. They're good now. This past weekend sellout 108 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 4: games against the Phillies. This town loves it to think 109 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 4: about pitt basketball, right. I mean you move to the 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: new facility and all of a sudden, you're selling out 111 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 4: every game, and you're going to the Sweet sixteen and 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 4: people are into it, and I can't think of a 113 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 4: city that approaches it for that sort of passion. 114 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 3: Well you've had, You've gotten your feet wet in this 115 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: position in the past. You get a little taste of it, 116 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 3: right a couple of years ago when Billy had his 117 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: back issues, and it kind of gives you the idea 118 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 3: when you go on the road with the Steelers and 119 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 3: you show up at the team hotel and there's already 120 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: you know, five hundred fans there waiting for you to 121 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 3: get off the buses. 122 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's just a different feel. 123 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it is. And you know the other thing. 124 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: I was talking about this on the DV Morning show 125 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 4: last Thursday, the pulling into the Jets game I did. 126 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 4: I was the Jets the Ravens and then the two 127 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 4: games during the pandemic, which was an interesting way to 128 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 4: call games. But you know, the fans in New York, 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 4: You're like, they only all of them only seem to 130 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: have one finger on the right hand, you know, and 131 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 4: it's and it's gesturing towards this steer. 132 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 5: I mean, the team bus came in and they're on 133 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 5: the move. 134 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: But I've been moving by Santa Claus. 135 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, right, it's great. And you know, as 136 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: we know about football, there's only seventeen regular season games, 137 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 4: right and then hopefully the playoffs beyond that, and so 138 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 4: the build up. You know, every sport's a little bit different, right, 139 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: you know, you get the hockey playoffs are great because 140 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 4: you have a game, then you have a day off 141 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 4: and you have a game that there's a rhythm that 142 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 4: goes on Baseball, once you start to get good, it's 143 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 4: every single night, you know, there's but football is that 144 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 4: slow burn all week long that you know, it's. 145 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 5: Just before the boil. 146 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: It's you don't want to put your finger in that 147 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 4: water man, but you're not ready to boil the corn yet. 148 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 4: And then Sunday it just erupts. It's just and then 149 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 4: it's phenomenal. I mean, you know, it doesn't matter where 150 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 4: you walk into. You walk into it. I don't care 151 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 4: if you're going to the grocery store, you're picking up 152 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 4: your dry cleaning, what what ever. 153 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 5: It is. Somebody's got something to say about the Steelers. 154 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt. I mean everywhere I go. 155 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: You know, if if people recognize me, oftentimes they do. 156 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: They don't, you know, but sometimes they do. The first question, Hey, 157 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: what are the Steelers going to be like this year? 158 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: What's what's you know, what about what's what's a quarter 159 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: what's going on? 160 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: Quarterback? Or what's going on here? Are they going to 161 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 2: go get a wide receiver? Whatut? 162 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 3: You know, the questions are always there, twenty four hours 163 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: a day, three hundred and sixty five. 164 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: Days a year. 165 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's three sixty five, it is, and it's I mean, look, 166 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 4: it's been it's been in the It's been that way 167 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: in this town for over a half century and I 168 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 4: don't see it going away anytime soon. And you know, 169 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: one of the other things too, is yes, the Steelers, 170 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 4: but like the sort of grassroots connection to it. I 171 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 4: was lucky enough to do with Craig Wolfley and then 172 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: later Christiannider for the last couple of years high school 173 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 4: football and to go around the communities and to see 174 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 4: the passion and uh, to. 175 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 5: Be part of those, to be part of. 176 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 4: That scene, to drop into a community. You know, we'd 177 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: always do the same thing as as a crew. We 178 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: would go in on a Friday night, find a place 179 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: to eat, get that sort of sense of excitement that's 180 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 4: going on, because there's that sense of excitement and it's 181 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 4: almost like that's a that's almost a kickoff right to 182 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: the weekend, to the football weekend. And how great that is. 183 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: I remember, you know, so many times doing a high 184 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: school football game on Friday, then covering the pit game 185 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: on Saturday, then covering the Steelers game on Sunday, and thinking, man, 186 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 4: three days of football that people are just stoked about. 187 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 5: It was. 188 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 4: It's phenomenal. It's not lost on me. Again, what an 189 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: unbelievable experience and honor. And you know, there's there's an 190 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 4: expectation that comes to this job as well, and I 191 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: absolutely will take that seriously and do take that serious. 192 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you do. 193 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: You know, it's you know, when you're in the media, 194 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,199 Speaker 3: obviously you're you're. 195 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: In the public eye. 196 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: When you've got a job such as this, now you're 197 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: you know, it just ramps up that much more and so, uh, 198 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: you know, people watch everything. I had that explained to 199 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: me very early in my career that you know, hey, 200 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: you're not just some you know, with your job comes 201 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: a greater responsibility, right, you know that that people are 202 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 3: watching what you do one hundred you know one all 203 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,439 Speaker 3: the time, and so you have to carry yourself a 204 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: little bit differently. And it took me a long time 205 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: because I didn't get into the I didn't get into 206 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 3: this business for people to recognize me or things that 207 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: I got into the business because I want to tell stories, right, 208 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: and you know, when that kind of stuff happens, you know, 209 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 3: it was always a little weird first. And then you know, 210 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,839 Speaker 3: I've watched how some some other guys handle those kind 211 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: of things, and you know, you kind of learn from that. 212 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: Billy was one of those. 213 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 3: Billy was always gracious with everybody that approached him and 214 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 3: and and you know, just that just very happy to 215 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 3: meet people and and do those kind of things. And 216 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 3: and uh, you know that was always the thing that 217 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 3: I appreciated the most about him because he was Bill Hilgrove. 218 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: All the time. 219 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 3: There was no uh, there's no second face or anything 220 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: like that. He's just he was just him. And and that's 221 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: one of the things that I appreciate you. You are 222 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 3: Rob King all the time. We know exactly what to 223 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: expect expect from Rob King, and I think you're going 224 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: to do a great job. 225 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 4: Just don't play basketball with me, different kind of basketball. 226 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: I can say the same thing about myself some reason. 227 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 3: When that when I get I get I started getting competitive. Uh, 228 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: the juices start to flow a little. 229 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 4: Bit, they do, and that but the responsibility, that's a 230 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 4: great word. The responsibility you have responsibility and you know 231 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 4: what you just if you don't take it lee and 232 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: if you you know, do the work, hopefully that's going 233 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: to be appreciated. But there is a responsibility like that. 234 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: That's that's a great word to use to describe what 235 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 4: we do and the connection with the fans and and 236 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: being that conduit between the fans and the Steelers and 237 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,479 Speaker 4: being connected to both. Literally, the word connection, the responsibility 238 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: to connectos again not taken lightly. And I'm just absolutely 239 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 4: thrilled for the opportunity. 240 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think you're gonna knock it out of the park. 241 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 3: And uh again, you have a great person to lean 242 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 3: on there with Billy to talk to about he is. 243 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 3: He is one of the most gracious. 244 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 5: So yeah, absolutely, he's all of that. Great guy. 245 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I look forward to hearing the calls. I 246 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: look forward to you're gonna have a catchphrase? 247 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 5: I don't think so. I don't think so. We'll see though. 248 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 3: Like baseball, you know, baseball is different than calling football. 249 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 3: You know, you have guys have their home run calls 250 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: and things, right, you know, you here's some guys around 251 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,719 Speaker 3: the league that have different touchdown calls and things of 252 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: that of that nature. 253 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 2: But so much of it I think is just kind 254 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: of organic. 255 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 5: Right. 256 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't expect to. I'm not thinking of one. 257 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: I'm not coming up with one. I just hope that 258 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 4: I use Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown a lot. 259 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 5: That's hey. 260 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 4: If I use it a lot, I don't care how 261 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 4: it comes out of my mouth, as long as I 262 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: use it a lot. 263 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, we'll get into that here in the 264 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: next segment. Rob. I do think that the offense is 265 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: going to be better, and I think there will be 266 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: more touchdowns scored from this team this year. 267 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 2: But we're going to get to a break. He is 268 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: Rob King. 269 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 3: New play by play, newly minted play by play now 270 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: for the for the Pittsburgh Steelers, sitting in for Matt Williamson. 271 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 3: We will be hitting training camp here. I'll be reporting tomorrow. 272 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: I don't know when you're getting out there, but every Thursday, 273 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: everybody else the players report Wednesday. Everything kicks off on 274 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: Thursday with the first practices and of course the schedule. 275 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: On Steelers Nation Radio on the weekdays from nine to 276 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: ten thirty am, you get training Camp Report with Bob 277 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 3: Labriola and Tom Opferman. At ten thirty to eleven thirty 278 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 3: you got the Training Camp Live with Mike Pursuda and 279 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 3: Max Starks. Eleven thirty to one thirty is in the 280 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: locker room with Craig Wolfley, Max Starks and Wes Euler. 281 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 3: And then at one thirty to three you've got the 282 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: SNR Drive with my self, Matt Williamson and Rob King. 283 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 3: Every day during the week. On the weekends, this schedule 284 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 3: change a little bit. We start at nine. From nine 285 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: to ten you get the Training Camp Report with labs 286 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 3: in shirtless Tom Then from ten to noon is in 287 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: the locker room with Wolf, Starks and Euler. Twelve to 288 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 3: two is live from Latrobe with Rob King and West Juler. 289 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: And then from two to three is Training Camp Live 290 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 3: with Mike Persuda, Max Starks, and from three to five 291 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 3: you get the Drive with me and Matt to kick 292 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 3: off your weekends there. 293 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: That's, of course. 294 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 3: The weekend practices start at one fifty five PM. The 295 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: weekday practices ten thirty m. Thus practices are open to 296 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 3: the public. We're gonna get to a break. 297 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 2: He is Rob King. 298 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on 299 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio. 300 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 301 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven Home of the Black 302 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: and Gold cast in r Delers Nation Radio. 303 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lolly here with Rob King today. 304 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 3: This is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio. And uh, Rob. 305 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 3: When you look at this Steelers team and I keep 306 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: seeing the predictions out there, Oh, they're going to struggle 307 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 3: to do this, They're going to you know this is 308 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: I get it that the division is difficult, the schedule 309 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: is difficult, but I look at this team on paper 310 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: and I see a better football team than what we 311 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 3: saw last year. Matt and I went through position by 312 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: position last week. Is you know what they were coming 313 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: out of training camp and what they are going into 314 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 3: training camp this year? 315 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: You know, is that position better? Upgraded? Worse? You know what? 316 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 3: What's the And there weren't many spots really. The only 317 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: the only position that we looked at and said, okay, 318 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: this this is probably worse than what they had a 319 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: year go. 320 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 2: It's the receiver. 321 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: Receiver, right, But everything else was either the same or 322 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: upgraded or extremely upgraded. 323 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: Yes, And I think it's a fascinating season. You know, 324 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 4: you go in and you think, okay, are there that 325 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 4: many jobs available in training camp, you know, maybe not. 326 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 4: Will they go out and get a receiver. How will 327 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 4: that affect how many guys you're going to have on 328 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: the team, maybe how many guys you're going to keep. 329 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 4: Does that allow you to bring an extra guy along 330 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 4: for special teams, et cetera, et cetera. The normal stuff 331 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: you have kind of mostly around the edges of the roster. 332 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: But I think there are a couple of interesting things, 333 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: like I think the team's depth should be better, not 334 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 4: only the talent, but the depth. I know you and 335 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 4: Matt discussed just how many guys that were on the 336 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 4: roster last year are not even on NFL teams right now. 337 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 4: And that's a team that got into the playoffs right 338 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: by winning their last three games. And you're talking about 339 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 4: guys that you know, Mike, tom and Omar Khan particularly 340 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 4: picked up off the street, plugged into games they had 341 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 4: to play. You won those games, and now those guys 342 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: who were part of you winning they're not even not 343 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: only not on this one off the. 344 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 3: Couch last year, now they're back on the couch. 345 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 5: They're right, they don't have jobs anywhere. 346 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 4: You know so, and you know so, I I you 347 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: know you can go ying yang and go back and forth. 348 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 4: For example, the Steelers were incredible in one run game 349 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 4: at one run games, one score game. 350 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 3: Sorry, many of them were run run games. That was 351 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: one big run was a difference. 352 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 4: Let me make sure I'm talking the right sport here. 353 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: One score game, so incredible record. Mike Tom has always 354 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 4: been great at that. There's a comfort level there. But 355 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: there's a difference between a comfort level and nine and 356 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 4: two last year and one score games. Yeah, that's hard 357 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: to maintain. But so four fourth quarter comebacks led the 358 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 4: league hard to maintain? Okay, great, those are I think 359 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 4: those are valid points if you want to look at 360 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 4: the glass half empty. Yeah, But then I look at 361 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: how did you get to the playoffs? Well, you had 362 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: a guy who's a who's a backup quarterback come in 363 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 4: and play serviceable football for you, and serviceable football was 364 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 4: good enough to beat other teams who were in the 365 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 4: same position as you were. 366 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 5: Seattle had to win, That had to win, and Cannatty 367 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 5: had to win that game. 368 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 4: And you beat teams like that with with quarterback play 369 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 4: that was solid from a guy who's a backup quarterback. 370 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 5: I mean that's what he is. 371 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think, so we'll understand exactly how difficult 372 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 3: that situation was in Seattle. Seattle needed that game every 373 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: bit as much, absolutely, And I've seen quite frankly, better 374 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: Steeler teams go to Seattle and play lesser Seattle teams 375 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 3: and lose that game, because that's a very difficult place 376 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: to play. 377 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: Right it is. And so you pull off all those things. 378 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 4: And so now I'm walking back from the nine to 379 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 4: two record, and I'm walking back a little bit from 380 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 4: you know, four fourth quarter comebacks, because I don't think 381 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: you're going to be in a position where you're going 382 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 4: to need for fourth quarter comebacks, where you're going to 383 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 4: need to win. You know, all but one of your 384 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 4: games is one score wins, right, you might win a 385 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 4: couple of games by ten points or more. And why 386 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 4: I think the reason is Twofold especially is one I 387 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: think that I like Arthur Smith and that choice at 388 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator. I think that's going to make a big 389 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 4: difference we'll see. And I think that you've clearly upgraded 390 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 4: at the quarterback position, and I think the two are 391 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 4: hand in hand. You know, Look, I'm not trying to 392 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 4: bury anybody but Kenny Pickett to me is an incomplete 393 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 4: story because I'm not sure he was ever in a 394 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 4: position to do a whole lot. 395 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think that that. 396 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 4: Couplet, the quarterback and the offensive coordinator coming together is 397 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: going to make this off a lot better, and that's important. 398 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: I also think that when you are leading the league 399 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 4: or among the league leaders in three and outs, I 400 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 4: mean they were way up there, what is that doing 401 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 4: for your defense? It's not helping your defense. You need 402 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 4: to be able to sustain drives, keep that defense fresh 403 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 4: for that defense to be maximized as well. So not 404 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 4: only is the offense scoring more points, but it's helping 405 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 4: out the defense as well. So those are two reasons 406 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 4: dale that I think that you could look at. If 407 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: you want to look at one group of numbers and 408 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 4: say nine to two and one score games, hard to sustain, 409 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 4: four fourth quarter comebacks led the league, hard to sustain 410 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: year to year, you can do that if you want to. 411 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: But I think you have to get a complete picture. 412 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: You have to look at the additions as well and think, well, 413 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: maybe they won't be in that position this year as much. 414 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 3: And I think the thing that people overlook when they 415 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: talk about because I've seen the Steelers from last year 416 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 3: compared to the Vikings from a couple of years ago, 417 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: and the Vikings I think went ten and one or 418 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 3: eleven and one. 419 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 4: In Yeah, and you can make that comp when you 420 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 4: look at the numbers, Yes you can. 421 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 3: Here's the thing though, when you look at the head 422 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 3: coach and what he's done over his career in one 423 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 3: score games, some coaches, some teams handle those situations better 424 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: than others. I would agree that most of the time 425 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: you would expect to return to the to the mean. 426 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,239 Speaker 3: But when a coach and a team consistently show you 427 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: that they win more of those games than they. 428 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: Lose, then you say, well, that wasn't you know. 429 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 3: And maybe you don't go nine to two in one 430 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 3: score games, maybe you go seven and four instead, But 431 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 3: maybe you have to your point, maybe you win some 432 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 3: more of those blowout not blowout games, but win by 433 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: more than one scorer more often this season. 434 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: That makes a big difference. And I would also say. 435 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin again knows how to manage a game in 436 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. You know, Kenny Pickett going winning seven 437 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,679 Speaker 3: games in the last two years in the fourth quarter 438 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 3: not a coincidence. Russell Wilson much like Ben Roethlisberger, also 439 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 3: one of the best quarterbacks all time in fourth quarter comebacks. 440 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 3: He's I think he's tied for seventh or eighth on 441 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 3: the list right now on the all time list with 442 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: more years to go here, I think he has thirty 443 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 3: four career fourth quarter comebacks. 444 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 2: Not every quarterback is built to do that either. 445 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 3: You look on that list of the top ten fourth 446 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: quarter comebacks, Aaron Rodgers is nowhere to be found on there. 447 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: There are certain you know, some quarterbacks do better in 448 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: those situations than others. 449 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 4: Right, of course, sub quarterbacks are in those positions more 450 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 4: than others. And I think Mike Tomlin has some comfortability there, Yeah, right, 451 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: he does. 452 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: And then the team, because the team knows that they're 453 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: playing those kind of get they get comfortable and they 454 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 3: don't get tight in those situations. 455 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 4: Right, this is our kind of game. Yeah, you get 456 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 4: that sort of mentality, and I do agree with that. 457 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: I also do think that, you know, one of the 458 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 4: reasons that you don't wind up with as many one 459 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: score games, or one of the ways one of the 460 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 4: avenues in which you could wind up with one score 461 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 4: game is something that we saw, you know, when Ben Roethlisberger, 462 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 4: And I bring this up lot Ben Roethlisberger's early years 463 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 4: in which you know, let's say you win a game 464 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: sixteen to six or something, right, but it might be 465 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 4: you know, it's nine six going into the fourth quarter. 466 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: It might be a close game then, but you have 467 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 4: that ability to win games in the fourth quarter. But 468 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 4: there are other scenarios too that turn no one score games, 469 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 4: one score games into non one score games. So we 470 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 4: see this, like so I said, runs back in baseball, 471 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 4: and interestingly for many years, and I think it's still true. 472 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: Most teams are about five hundred right in one run games. 473 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 4: You'd think, well, the Yankees, they just know how to 474 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 4: win those games. Okay, well they probably do. But your 475 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 4: record's still going to be thirty and thirty in one 476 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 4: run games. And you might be the worst team in baseball, 477 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: but your record's still going to be thirty and thirty 478 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 4: in one run games. 479 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 5: Now, part of that is because that's just the way 480 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 5: it goes. 481 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 4: But also part of that is because when you get 482 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 4: into let's say the Yankees are up six to five 483 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 4: in the seventh, thinking well, we're not going to bring 484 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 4: in our best relievers now, right, because we're not leading 485 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: the game. So if you're the Pirates, you're not bringing 486 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 4: in Holderman, you know, bed Naarr and Chapman. So you're 487 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 4: another team, your team Max, Well, we're not going to 488 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: put our best guys in there. Well what are the 489 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: Yankees going to do against your not best guys? What's judge. 490 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 5: In his lips? Right? So now, and the same thing 491 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 5: is true in football. 492 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 4: So let's say you you know, uh, you wind up 493 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: getting ahead even by a touchdown, right, And now you've 494 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 4: got arrested defense out there, and now the other teams 495 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 4: got to throw the football. 496 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 5: They've got to throw. 497 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 4: They got to take their game plan and throw it 498 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 4: out the window. And now you got TJ. Watt, and 499 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 4: you got Alex high Smith and he got Cam Hayward, 500 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 4: and they're saying, who we're We're gonna be able to 501 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: rush the passer. Now you get a turnover, Now you 502 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 4: kick a field goal, and what happens. It's no longer 503 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 4: a one score game. So so there are a lot 504 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: of things that can affect those numbers. And I think 505 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 4: the kind of scenario that I discussed and what we've 506 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: been talking about, I think that's going to happen more 507 00:23:59,160 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 4: for the Steelers. 508 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there'll be much more competitive offensively to 509 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 3: make those kind of things happen. 510 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: And I did that. I ran the numbers. 511 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 3: I believe it was a twenty twenty season when whatat 512 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: first led the league in sacks. And I think this 513 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: he played with more than a touchdown lead. The Steelers 514 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 3: played as a team with more than a touchdown lead 515 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,239 Speaker 3: for about one hundred and three minutes that year. 516 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 5: It's incredible. It's incredible. 517 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: It's not even you know, just barely over one full game, 518 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 3: not two full games worth of more than an eight 519 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: point lead, and he led to league in sacks. If 520 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 3: you get that defense more leads, it's going to lead 521 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 3: to more sacks, which leads more. 522 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 2: Turnovers, you know all that stuff. 523 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 3: So yeah, I completely agree with that point that you know, 524 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: this team, they're not going to average the I mean, look, 525 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: they have seventeen point nine points per game last year. 526 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: The league average is about twenty one and a half 527 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: twenty two points per game. If they can be league 528 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: average on offense, it makes all the difference in the world. 529 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 3: That's you know, three or four points per game gets 530 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 3: you out of some of those one score games. 531 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: And I also think that if the Steelers wind up 532 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 4: at league average in points per game, that it's going 533 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 4: to be in a little bit different way. I still 534 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 4: think the time of possession exactly. I think it's still 535 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 4: going to be control of the clock. Arthur Smith still 536 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 4: likes two tight ends, he still likes running the football. 537 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: I think they're going to be more dangerous in the 538 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 4: past game. I think Russell Wilson's gonna throw a lot 539 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: more touchdowns. And we've gotten accustomed to. 540 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: The thirteen last year. 541 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that I'm gonna say I think the 542 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 4: Steelers will double that total this year in the passing game. 543 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 4: But I also think that running game is going to 544 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 4: continue to be a bread and butter. And again, when 545 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 4: you talk about the bread and butter for the team offensively, 546 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 4: when you talk about things coming together, when you talk 547 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 4: about Omar Khan and what Andy Widel did in Philadelphia 548 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: and this group coming together led by Omar Khan, talking 549 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 4: about you know where you where you're gonna add, Well, 550 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 4: look where they've added offensive line. 551 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 5: Let's go. 552 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 4: Let's you know, and you got Najie, and you got 553 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 4: Jail and Warren, you got a great one two punch. 554 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 4: Why would you not try to control the clock. Rest 555 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: And again, when you control the clock, you're resting your defense. Right, 556 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 4: you're demoralizing the other team. And not only are you 557 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 4: resting your defense, the offense is over there. The other 558 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 4: offense is getting fidgety and they're not getting in a. 559 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 3: Risk looking at the clock. Okay, now we're down the score. 560 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 3: There's we got maybe one or two possessions. 561 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 5: Now we got a quarter change, and now here we go. 562 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: Okay, now it's been you know, seventeen minutes since I've 563 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 4: been out on the field. 564 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've had this eight minute drive, right, you know, 565 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: those those things matter. And Matt had a great stat 566 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 3: last week. I don't know where he found it at, 567 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: but Arthur Smith's offenses in Atlanta, whether it was Quartero Patterson, 568 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 3: whether it was Tyler Algier, whether it was b Jean Robinson. 569 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 3: You got three different kind of runners there running into 570 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: eight man fronts. 571 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: All of that averaged over four yards per carry. 572 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 3: Different styles of running backs all averaged under Arthur Smith 573 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: over four yards running into a loaded box. 574 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 5: The Steelers were good at that a couple of years 575 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 5: ago too. 576 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 4: They had good numbers and running against you know, just 577 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: because it's an eight man box. Doesn't mean you can't run, 578 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 4: but you also have what Arthur Smith didn't have, and 579 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: what the Steelers haven't had, is an experienced, veteran quarterback 580 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: that you crossed to get to the line of scrimmage 581 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 4: and say, okay, well we're going to throw the ball, 582 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 4: and I know where I'm going to throw the ball, 583 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 4: and i know what I'm going to do here because 584 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 4: I've got the experience and the talent too as well. 585 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 4: I'm sure Arthur Smith is saying, oh, now they got. 586 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: I got a quarterback. 587 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, now they got them, you know so, I mean, obviously, 588 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 4: look that makes we know this. It makes a huge difference. 589 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 4: There's a reason guys are paid fifty million dollars a year. 590 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: It's the most it's the most important position in sports. 591 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 4: It is it is you make it. You can make 592 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 4: the biggest impact there. And it's not just talent, although 593 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 4: talent is a big part of it. I mean, look 594 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 4: up in Buffalo, Buffalo, you know, looking forward to that 595 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 4: second preseason game. I'm looking forward to that and diving 596 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 4: a little more into the Bills. I mean they are 597 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: just hemorrhaging Pro bowlers. Yeah, I mean the last couple 598 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 4: of years. 599 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 5: We lost two this year. We lost two this year. 600 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 5: We lost another one this year. 601 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 4: But you've got Josh Allen and Josh Allen he's like 602 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 4: the eraser at the end of a pencil. 603 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 5: You know, he can make. 604 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 4: Now, this is going to be a big challenge for 605 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 4: him this year because he's got less talent around him. 606 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 4: But the great quarterbacks we saw a pen Roethlisberger. Ya, 607 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 4: We've seen greatness up close what it can do to 608 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 4: lift the team. You know, you can win any game 609 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 4: that that guy's out in the field. So where Russell 610 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 4: Wilson's going to be? I think this is gonna be 611 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: fascinating because he went from a great situation in Seattle 612 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 4: to what was wound up not being a good situation 613 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 4: in Denver. I mean, a head coach that was one 614 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 4: and done and a head coach that just didn't seem. 615 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 5: To care for him. 616 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: So I think I think Russell Wilson's going to be 617 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 4: you know, not that I would ever think he needs 618 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 4: extra motivation. You know, Ben Roethlisberger doesn't need extra motivation. Now, 619 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 4: a little bit of a you know, a little bit 620 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: of an age, a little bit of a chip on 621 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 4: your shoulder. 622 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 3: Oh, those guys are gonna utilize absolutely there. He said 623 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 3: it in his first press conference when when he was 624 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 3: introduced that you know he's thinking about his long term legacy. Yes, 625 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: you know, before he went to Denver, people oh, he's 626 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 3: a slam dunk Hall of Famer, slam dunk, slam dunk. 627 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: And now all of a sudden, you know he's in 628 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: Denver for two years. The first year was awful, right, 629 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: the second year was not bad. But again, to your point, 630 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: you had a coach there that didn't He wasn't there 631 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 3: when you brought him in. Right when Wilson was brought in, 632 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: he didn't. 633 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: They weren't. They was well and water. 634 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 3: And so now he's looking at this going, I got 635 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: a chance to reclaim my legacy here. If I go 636 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 3: out and have a good year, people start talking about 637 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 3: me as a Hall of Famer again. There's definitely a 638 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 3: chip there in a show. 639 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 4: Right for sure, for sure. And I think that's a 640 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 4: good chip. And I think it's going to be It's 641 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 4: gonna be really interesting to see because I think if 642 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 4: the Steelers get you know, people are like average quarterback play, 643 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 4: I think the Steelers can shoot for more than that. 644 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 4: If you can get above average quarterback play. I don't 645 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: see why this team, you know, you talked about it 646 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 4: with Matt. I just think they're except for a receiver. 647 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: And we'll see. The season hasn't started yet. I think 648 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 4: across the board, this is just a team that's they've improved, 649 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 4: and they've taken their weaknesses and I think improve their weaknesses. 650 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 4: And and you know, if you're gonna look at this 651 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 4: team and say, well, where where are they having some issues? 652 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: And and you know there's the additions to me are twofold. 653 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 4: Like you go out and get a Patrick Queen, I 654 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 4: mean you've added terrific football player, just a terrific player. 655 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 4: I think they've shored up the back end of their 656 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 4: defense as well. And you know, when you're gonna run 657 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 4: an offense, presumably that's gonna utilize tight ends. I mean 658 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 4: they just keep picking up tight ends, more and more 659 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 4: tight ends because that matches your. 660 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 5: System as well and what you want to do offensively. 661 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 4: So not only are you making splash, but I think 662 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 4: you're making with a guy like Patrick Queen, but you're 663 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 4: making shrewd pickups as well, because the personnel you're picking 664 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 4: up match the system you want to try to use. 665 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, he is Rob King. I'm Dale Lolli. You're 666 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: listening to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're 667 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: gonna take a break. 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And with training camp this week, 679 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 3: you might want to do that. Gets yourself some new 680 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: Steelers gear, you get the Steelers Training Camp, Sideline apparel, 681 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: all that good stuff out there and as you head 682 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: to Latrobe and of course the Steelers also have their 683 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 3: shops set out set up at Latrobe as well. 684 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: Get it. 685 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 3: You can wear it out there on the hillstop, maybe 686 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: get someone to sign it. 687 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 5: Rob, I think so that's what I think you should do. 688 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: It's a great place to do stuff like that. 689 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 5: Get some apparel, get an autograph, great stuff. 690 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: Get multiple to get multiple Never wash that shirt again, 691 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 3: that's right, Never. 692 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 4: Wash that shirt again. Why would you You don't want 693 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 4: to wash off an autograph. 694 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, he is Rob King sitting in for the vacationing 695 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. Matt will be back on Thursday when we 696 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 3: kick off the drive out in La Trobe. But I 697 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: can't wait to do that. Always one of my favorite 698 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: times of the year. Like I said before, this is 699 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: my thirty second training camp in Late Trobe. I think 700 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: I've been at Saint Vincent College enough. I should I've 701 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: earned a. 702 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 5: Degree, Yeah, some sort of degree. Yeah. 703 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 4: Listen, you could have probably knocked off some classes while 704 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 4: you're out there, right, if. 705 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 5: You'd know it. It's going to be thirty two years. 706 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: Well, you know, I've been a little busy when I'm 707 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 3: out there, but yeah, that's true. Yeah, So, I mean 708 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to seeing We've seen this team throughout 709 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 3: the process this offseason OTAs and then Mini camp and 710 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 3: and now you get to see him at training camp 711 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 3: and and it ramps. 712 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 2: Up really quickly. Two weeks before the first preseason game. 713 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 5: Incredible. It's incredible. 714 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, I know we're going to get 715 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 4: into sexier topics, but can I talk punding for that? Absolutely, 716 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: So we're and the reason I wanted to talk about 717 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 4: it now because we're just talking about the offense and 718 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 4: the expectation that it's going to be better. So I'm 719 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: going to try to put this in terms that I 720 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 4: think are relevant to what yardage means. What you know, 721 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 4: you talk about hidden yardage, And I think one of 722 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 4: the things that Steelers did is I don't think it's 723 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 4: any coincidence. Maybe it was, but I don't think it 724 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 4: was any coincidence that they had the kickoff rule. We 725 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: were down in Orlando they passed the kickoff rule. It 726 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 4: was that day or the next day. It was that 727 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 4: cord Aro Patterson, Yeah, it was that day. So the 728 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 4: greatest kick returner maybe an NFL history. So looking for 729 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: more yards in that regard, I think they've got. I 730 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 4: think Tyler Mattakaevitch is a very interesting pickup. They have 731 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 4: Miles Killerbrew. I think they're special teams. They've always wanted 732 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 4: to be special, to be solid on special teams. But 733 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 4: when you think about punting, I'm going to put it 734 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 4: to you in this term. So, Cameron Johnson is a 735 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 4: guy that he had a net of forty four yards 736 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 4: per game last year. Percy Presley Harvin, I can stop 737 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 4: calling him Percy Harvin. Now, the old Ride receiver, Presley 738 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 4: Harvin averaged thirty nine point two. Again, that's not all 739 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 4: on the punter, but let's just say for argument's sake, 740 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 4: right now, it's on the punter. Okay, that's a four 741 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 4: point eight yard difference per punt. Harvin averaged about, well, 742 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 4: he didn't average about he averaged exactly five point two 743 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 4: punts per game. So five point two punts per game 744 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 4: at four point eight yards per game is twenty four 745 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 4: point nine to six net yards twenty five yards. 746 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, right. 747 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 4: So the Steelers ranked twenty fifth in the NFL in 748 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 4: total yardage. If you gave them twenty five yards a game, 749 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: if you pbscribed that to their offense and just said 750 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 4: you're gonna be twenty five yards better than offense, now 751 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 4: you're nineteenth in yards. So we talk about the Steelers 752 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 4: just getting to average, Well, where's that improvement gonna come offensively? Well, 753 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 4: you just picked up twenty five yards by changing your 754 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 4: punter twenty five yards per game. 755 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 5: That's significant. That's enough. 756 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 4: Again, let me reiterate that that's enough to move your 757 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 4: offense twenty fifth in the league to nineteenth in the league. 758 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 4: We're looking to get this to A's offense to average. Right, Well, 759 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 4: you just picked up six of the nine spots you 760 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 4: need by changing your punter. You haven't even talked about 761 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: the offensive improvements. 762 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 3: It also helps your defense with the field position battle. 763 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 3: You know, if you're gonna play a game in the margins, 764 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,839 Speaker 3: to try to win in the margins, to win those 765 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 3: one score games, being good at the punting position is 766 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,320 Speaker 3: huge in that because the one problem that I have 767 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: with Preshley Harven we would talk about this every year 768 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 3: at training Matt and I were doing the radio show. 769 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: We're doing the Drive during. 770 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 3: Training camp practices the last two seasons, and you're watching 771 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: Presley Harvin out there punting the ball, and you're like, 772 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 3: sixty yard punt, sixty five yard punts, seventy yard punt 773 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 3: in perfect conditions. It would get to be November and 774 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, those sixty yard punts, those fifty 775 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: yard punts are now going forty, they're going thirty five 776 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 3: it has to be consistent. The consistent and see, to 777 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: me is the biggest thing that you're going to get 778 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 3: out of camera in Johnston, I know looking at his 779 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 3: career numbers in Philadelphia, not the best of weather, all right. 780 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 3: Houston's a little different story, but he also kicked at 781 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 3: Ohio State and college. He knows how to kick in weather. 782 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 3: And you look at his career numbers, his lowest career 783 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,240 Speaker 3: average for gross average forty six point four yards. 784 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: Harvin's never come close to that. 785 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 3: So this is a guy who knows how to kick 786 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,360 Speaker 3: in the elements, and that's going to help your defense 787 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 3: when you're backed up. If he's punting from his ten, 788 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 3: you're not going to be giving the other team the 789 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 3: ball at the fifty where they need fifteen yards to 790 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 3: be in field goal range. And so you're playing things 791 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 3: a little bit more different now. You know, maybe they 792 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 3: get it at the thirty five instead of the forty 793 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 3: five or the fifty, and your defense is a little 794 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 3: It changes the way you play defense a little bit more. 795 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 3: And if he's kicking from his thirty, now you're flipping 796 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: the field and you're putting them down inside their own 797 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 3: twenty again. To your point, the hidden you yardage going 798 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 3: to mass for this team. 799 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 4: You can also change momentum as a punter. Not all 800 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 4: the time, not every kick, but there are times, and 801 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to completely come down hard 802 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 4: on Harvid, but there were times where. 803 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 5: I felt like, boy, a big kick here would be 804 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 5: would be huge. 805 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it didn't seem like those big kicks came 806 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 4: at the huge moment often enough, so we've gotten used 807 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 4: to seeing him. We'll see what happens with the Cameron Johnson. 808 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 4: But you know, imagine a scenario in which a team 809 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,919 Speaker 4: is now they stopped you three and out, and they're 810 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 4: down three, and you got the ball at your own twenty, 811 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,320 Speaker 4: and they're thinking to themselves, we're. 812 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 5: Gonna have the ball to forty. 813 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're two first downs away from maybe one first 814 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 4: down away from tying this game. And now you unleash 815 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 4: a banger and that ball rolls out of bounds at 816 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 4: the twelve yard line. It completely changes the momentum of 817 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 4: the feeling flating for the offense. I mean, think about 818 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 4: how you're feeling as a fan, right, I mean, you're thinking, 819 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 4: oh my goodness, gracious, I thought we're gonna have the 820 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 4: ball to forty what some of that same emotion is 821 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 4: going to be on the sideline too. 822 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 5: So I think it's a big deal. I do. 823 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 4: And I think you add Patterson to that and I 824 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,399 Speaker 4: think it's a big deal as well. It'll be very 825 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 4: interesting to see who the punt returner is and whether 826 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 4: that can be a positive, because that has not been 827 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 4: a positive for this year. There's too often the punt 828 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 4: return game. 829 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 3: Calvin Austin was pretty good in that in that role 830 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 3: last year. He was close a couple of times to 831 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 3: breaking some uh. Talk to him at from you needed 832 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 3: that one extra, one extra guy. He's like, yeah, I know, 833 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 3: I was there. It was there, and somebody got me 834 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 3: by the Yeah, you. 835 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 4: Know I don't want close though, No, And I agree 836 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,319 Speaker 4: with you. I think Calvin Austin has promise as a 837 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 4: punt returner for sure. I think he's a dangerous guy 838 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 4: when the ball. 839 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 5: Is in his hands. I'm interested, Yeah, I'm watching. 840 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm moving a little forward in my seat when 841 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 4: he's got the ball. So I do think that that's 842 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 4: going to be an area in which, because let's face it, 843 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 4: you know, coaches always say, yeah, three facets of the game, 844 00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 4: but not every team pays as much. No, they don't 845 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 4: treat them all the same. But I think the Steelers' 846 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 4: movements in the offseason, and again Omark Cohn, I think 847 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 4: these are shrewd moves that have made the Steelers more 848 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 4: effective in an area of the game that's not as 849 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,279 Speaker 4: sexy to talk about his offense and defense. But when 850 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 4: you think about in total, you know Chris Boswell being 851 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 4: just absolute money as a kicker. And now you've improved 852 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 4: the punting game, You've returned the kick returning, You've improved 853 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 4: the kick returning game. Hopefully you can get something more 854 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,399 Speaker 4: out of that punt return game, perhaps that being an 855 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 4: asset for your team. I mean, listen, it's fun to 856 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 4: see those, you know, halftime highlights when you're watching the 857 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 4: game and see somebody returning to punt for a touchdown. 858 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 5: On the other team. 859 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 4: Not not the other team the Steelers are playing, any 860 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: other team around some of those, Yeah, we don't want 861 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 4: to see that. So anyway, I just thought that that 862 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 4: I think it's relevant. I think it's going to be 863 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 4: a factor. I think it's going to be a factor 864 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 4: in helping the Steelers win games, and I think it 865 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 4: could even be a factor in winning a game or 866 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 4: two for the Steelers. 867 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. 868 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 3: Just you know, you look at some of the things 869 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 3: that they have done to again winning the margins, blocking kicks, 870 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 3: things of that nature that that change the momentum of 871 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 3: a game. You know, that double thud right is something that, yeah, right, that. 872 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 2: That teams don't want to hear. 873 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 3: And the Steelers are Miles Killiber is one of the 874 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 3: best in the league, maybe ever blocking kicks at the 875 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 3: NFL level. They've found ways. Danny Smith has done a 876 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 3: great job of scheming up ways to get guys free 877 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 3: to the punter. I think Danny will find ways to 878 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 3: utilize and take advantage of. 879 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 2: This kickoff role. 880 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 3: And I can't wait to sell be fascinating to watch. 881 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 4: I can't So the first game is coming up to 882 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,959 Speaker 4: Texans on August first, right in the Hall of Fame game, 883 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 4: and I cannot. 884 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 3: Wait watching preseason games to see how teams handle this. 885 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 4: You know, I was talking with I think it was 886 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,600 Speaker 4: Miles Killerbrew after one of the practices about like, who 887 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 4: do you it out there? 888 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: Yeah? 889 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 5: I mean what does that look like? 890 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 3: Now you're gonna see some bigger bodies on kicks from 891 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: what you used to see. 892 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I think if you're you know, it's. 893 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,400 Speaker 3: Almost gonna be like you're gonna almost have to match 894 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 3: what the offense puts out there for for the coverage units, 895 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: and then you're gonna dictate to the other team who 896 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 3: they put on the field, because if I, if I 897 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 3: have a couple of. 898 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:23,720 Speaker 2: Either athletic tight. 899 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 3: Ends or athletic offense or defensive lineman that I can 900 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 3: put out there, you almost have to match that if 901 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 3: you're the if you're the defensive team, like, do I 902 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 3: want a bunch of little guys out there when they've 903 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 3: got some bigger bodies out there and one of those 904 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: guys pancakes one of my guys and creates a seam 905 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 3: like it's it's gonna be fascinating to watch how this works. 906 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 4: You wonder if the Spencer Anderson, I think drafts for 907 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 4: pretty much every game last year, did he get a 908 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 4: snap on offense? 909 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 2: I don't believe they don't think he did. 910 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,080 Speaker 5: But could he be a guy if you're that. 911 00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 3: We've seen the Brett Kussells and guys of that nature 912 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 3: do this stuff over there. 913 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: You're just six offense some linement, are you gonna be utilized? 914 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 4: On kick return I mean, I can't. 915 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 3: Could could have the Marvin Leal find a role, you know, 916 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 3: doing stuff like that. 917 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: Just hey, go blow somebody up and give me a scene. 918 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 4: And are there gonna be more big returns? Is it 919 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 4: one scene for it? It seems like it is. 920 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 5: Doesn't it. 921 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what they're trying to get that that. 922 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 3: I can't excitement. 923 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:24,399 Speaker 5: I can't wait. 924 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be fascinating. And I think again, 925 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,760 Speaker 4: the Steelers are ahead of the curve here. They're They've 926 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 4: got the best kick returner maybe in NFL. 927 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 2: He's aggressive with it too. 928 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 3: I mean you go back and watch some of his 929 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 3: highlight he's taken it from you know, nine yards deep 930 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 3: in the in the end zone. He'll he'll take it 931 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 3: because he feels like he can break any and he's 932 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 3: a big due. 933 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's gonna say, by the way, that's not a 934 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 4: little wiggly guy there. 935 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 5: That's a guy that will run you over. 936 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 937 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a big man. He is a big man. 938 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 3: That's it's gonna be fun to watch. I can't wait 939 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,200 Speaker 3: to see how different teams attack this and utilizing Again. 940 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be watching preseason games just to kickoffs, right, 941 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 2: who does that? 942 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,279 Speaker 4: I agree, and I think it's gonna be I think 943 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 4: it's gonna be a work in progress, you know, I 944 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 4: don't doubt. I don't know if any team is going 945 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,959 Speaker 4: to be able to really see what And I would 946 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 4: imagine there's gonna be different theories about there out there 947 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 4: about who to use. 948 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 5: Now. 949 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe there will be a uniform theory that will 950 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 4: work for every team. I don't know, but I suspect 951 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 4: it's one of the areas in which teams are gonna say, Okay, 952 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,959 Speaker 4: well we're gonna try this grouping of personnel, and another 953 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 4: team's gonna say, we're gonna try this grouping of personnel, 954 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 4: and hey, you put big bodies out on the field 955 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 4: for kick coverage. Maybe we're gonna have smaller, faster guys 956 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 4: to run reverses on you over commit, cyon or I 957 00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 4: see you later. 958 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 5: It's gonna be fast, It'll be fun. It's gonna be fun. 959 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 5: I can't wait. 960 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait either. 961 00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: Rob. 962 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for our number one, Rob and 963 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 3: I will be back for our number two of the 964 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 3: drive right after this. 965 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,680 Speaker 2: Don't you go anywhere. This is Steelers Nation Radio