1 00:00:15,210 --> 00:00:22,049 Speaker 1: Pushkin Khalila Holt, Welcome to the studio. 2 00:00:22,210 --> 00:00:24,410 Speaker 2: You don't have to welcome you to the studio. Every 3 00:00:24,490 --> 00:00:27,770 Speaker 2: time I feel welcome, I think they're welcome carries over 4 00:00:27,850 --> 00:00:28,570 Speaker 2: week to week. 5 00:00:28,730 --> 00:00:32,690 Speaker 1: I am a host of a nationally broadcast podcast. 6 00:00:33,129 --> 00:00:35,370 Speaker 2: It's what we do host with the most. 7 00:00:35,570 --> 00:00:39,250 Speaker 1: We're contractually obliged to welcome our guests, and you are 8 00:00:39,290 --> 00:00:41,449 Speaker 1: my guests. Make no mistake about it. 9 00:00:41,450 --> 00:00:44,129 Speaker 2: You're going to like offer me something to drink or no. 10 00:00:45,610 --> 00:00:48,809 Speaker 1: So now we're going to be listening to a encore 11 00:00:48,849 --> 00:00:51,370 Speaker 1: presentation of a little episode called Joey. 12 00:00:51,610 --> 00:00:51,769 Speaker 3: Yes. 13 00:00:52,209 --> 00:00:55,690 Speaker 1: And actually there is a line in this story that 14 00:00:55,930 --> 00:00:58,850 Speaker 1: I still quote that we both oh, that's true. At 15 00:00:58,890 --> 00:01:01,210 Speaker 1: the end of our meetings, Yeah, that's true, one person 16 00:01:01,290 --> 00:01:03,890 Speaker 1: will say to the other adios. 17 00:01:03,330 --> 00:01:07,209 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's you guys late to audios. 18 00:01:07,290 --> 00:01:09,450 Speaker 1: Yeah. And as you listen, you'll be able to hear 19 00:01:09,530 --> 00:01:10,690 Speaker 1: where that quote comes from. 20 00:01:10,770 --> 00:01:13,890 Speaker 2: Yeah. So maybe you guys can work that into your 21 00:01:13,930 --> 00:01:14,570 Speaker 2: lives too. 22 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:17,450 Speaker 1: All right, So let's get to it. Coming right up, 23 00:01:17,610 --> 00:01:20,610 Speaker 1: an encore presentation of Joey And at the end of 24 00:01:20,650 --> 00:01:24,130 Speaker 1: the episode, we're going to check in with Joey and 25 00:01:24,450 --> 00:01:25,410 Speaker 1: a surprise guest. 26 00:01:25,530 --> 00:01:27,250 Speaker 2: I can't wait to find out who it is. 27 00:01:27,690 --> 00:01:30,330 Speaker 1: It's not you. No, you're a guest, but you're not 28 00:01:30,370 --> 00:01:31,250 Speaker 1: a surprise guest. 29 00:01:31,370 --> 00:01:31,450 Speaker 4: No. 30 00:01:31,690 --> 00:01:33,850 Speaker 2: People are like, yeah, that makes sense that she is there. 31 00:01:34,410 --> 00:01:44,330 Speaker 1: But first a word from our sponsors. Hi, John, Okay, 32 00:01:44,370 --> 00:01:47,690 Speaker 1: if I were to plan a surprise vacation for us, 33 00:01:48,090 --> 00:01:50,330 Speaker 1: where would you want to go? Did you say vacation? 34 00:01:50,650 --> 00:01:51,650 Speaker 1: Surprise vacation? 35 00:01:53,210 --> 00:01:55,370 Speaker 5: It could just never happen with my work schedule, like 36 00:01:55,450 --> 00:01:56,730 Speaker 5: I can, that can never happen. 37 00:01:56,730 --> 00:01:57,570 Speaker 1: Where would you want to go? 38 00:01:57,890 --> 00:01:58,770 Speaker 5: Why would I want to go? 39 00:01:59,450 --> 00:02:02,050 Speaker 1: For fun in the sun? Listen, no stress, you sound 40 00:02:02,370 --> 00:02:03,450 Speaker 1: the idea of actually being on. 41 00:02:03,530 --> 00:02:05,730 Speaker 6: Vacation with you, nice idea. 42 00:02:05,850 --> 00:02:07,650 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be vacation with any It would be a 43 00:02:07,650 --> 00:02:10,250 Speaker 1: slight caation because we do everything on a sleigh. We 44 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:13,369 Speaker 1: dashed through the snow and I don't know, like check 45 00:02:13,370 --> 00:02:17,290 Speaker 1: our phones and argue. Occasionally you'd hang up on me 46 00:02:18,530 --> 00:02:28,410 Speaker 1: and I'd start the show. But up bump from Gimblet Media. 47 00:02:28,690 --> 00:02:45,530 Speaker 1: I'm Jonathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight Today's episode. Joey 48 00:02:46,410 --> 00:02:49,810 Speaker 1: as a young man, whenever conflict arose, my go to 49 00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:52,410 Speaker 1: move was to roll up into a fetal ball and 50 00:02:52,530 --> 00:02:58,650 Speaker 1: pray to go unnoticed. Of course, this only made matters worse. Case. 51 00:02:58,690 --> 00:03:02,690 Speaker 1: In point one afternoon, while riding a trolley, I fell 52 00:03:02,730 --> 00:03:06,410 Speaker 1: into a daydream and missed my stop. Anyone else in 53 00:03:06,450 --> 00:03:09,290 Speaker 1: my position might have yelled, I missed my stop. Up 54 00:03:09,610 --> 00:03:13,650 Speaker 1: or open the door please, But in imagining all these 55 00:03:13,690 --> 00:03:17,210 Speaker 1: trolley riding strangers turning around to stare at me, my 56 00:03:17,330 --> 00:03:20,770 Speaker 1: mind went blank. So I decided it might be simpler 57 00:03:21,170 --> 00:03:26,570 Speaker 1: draw less attention if I just jumped off. As I 58 00:03:26,650 --> 00:03:29,330 Speaker 1: landed onto the street, I heard a high pitched scream 59 00:03:29,530 --> 00:03:33,330 Speaker 1: that I would later realize was coming from me. Instead 60 00:03:33,370 --> 00:03:37,730 Speaker 1: of drawing less attention, I was now center stage. The 61 00:03:37,810 --> 00:03:41,130 Speaker 1: trolley conductor skidded to a halt, and all the passengers 62 00:03:41,250 --> 00:03:44,370 Speaker 1: ran to the windows to watch as I painfully crawled 63 00:03:44,370 --> 00:03:48,210 Speaker 1: into a nearby bush. Once in the bush, I hid 64 00:03:48,770 --> 00:03:56,810 Speaker 1: waiting for the trolley to leave. For young Jonathan Goldstein, 65 00:03:57,170 --> 00:04:00,490 Speaker 1: the cost of staying silent that day was two twisted 66 00:04:00,530 --> 00:04:04,930 Speaker 1: ankles and the loss of my pride. Hey, Joey, hey. 67 00:04:04,770 --> 00:04:06,050 Speaker 7: There to hear from you. 68 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:09,770 Speaker 1: This is young Joey, and he recently had a bad 69 00:04:09,850 --> 00:04:13,250 Speaker 1: day that forced him to realize his fear of being seen, 70 00:04:13,650 --> 00:04:16,969 Speaker 1: his fear of speaking up was exacting a far greater 71 00:04:17,089 --> 00:04:21,010 Speaker 1: cost than a mere double ankle injury. It was ruining 72 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:25,650 Speaker 1: his life, and so he's reached out for help from. 73 00:04:25,450 --> 00:04:28,089 Speaker 3: Me and just never get myself in a situation like 74 00:04:28,130 --> 00:04:28,609 Speaker 3: this again. 75 00:04:29,409 --> 00:04:32,010 Speaker 1: I think Joey is twenty two years old, and the 76 00:04:32,089 --> 00:04:35,130 Speaker 1: lead up to his terrible, horrible, no good, very bad 77 00:04:35,210 --> 00:04:39,049 Speaker 1: day begins right after his art school graduation, when he 78 00:04:39,130 --> 00:04:42,409 Speaker 1: moved into an artist's loft in downtown. 79 00:04:42,089 --> 00:04:45,210 Speaker 3: LA live in that downtown city life kind of living, 80 00:04:45,250 --> 00:04:46,329 Speaker 3: that communal living style. 81 00:04:46,729 --> 00:04:49,810 Speaker 1: The downside was that the loft had bedsheets for walls 82 00:04:50,130 --> 00:04:54,050 Speaker 1: in six roommates. But the plus side, the loft had 83 00:04:54,089 --> 00:05:00,009 Speaker 1: bed sheets for walls and six roommates, six super cool roommates, 84 00:05:00,289 --> 00:05:04,409 Speaker 1: a DJ, a dollmaker, a photographer, a guy who quote 85 00:05:04,529 --> 00:05:08,650 Speaker 1: trimmed weed, and super coolest of all, a podcaster. 86 00:05:09,130 --> 00:05:14,450 Speaker 3: And I pictured these cool artist types having great parties 87 00:05:14,609 --> 00:05:17,089 Speaker 3: and a lot of cool people over and all the 88 00:05:17,210 --> 00:05:20,969 Speaker 3: artists in the LA scene would come through and I 89 00:05:21,089 --> 00:05:24,730 Speaker 3: was gonna come in and hopefully fit in immediately. 90 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:30,249 Speaker 1: But Joey didn't fit in immediately. He never felt comfortable 91 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:32,969 Speaker 1: just hanging out with everyone, never knew what to say, 92 00:05:33,929 --> 00:05:35,890 Speaker 1: and so he ended up spending most of his time 93 00:05:36,049 --> 00:05:40,969 Speaker 1: alone in his room, rehearsing icebreakers. I like your tattoo, 94 00:05:41,330 --> 00:05:47,370 Speaker 1: he'd repeat to himself, your tattoo. I like it, sweet tat, 95 00:05:47,849 --> 00:05:51,250 Speaker 1: he'd say, pointing limply at the mirror, like a socially 96 00:05:51,289 --> 00:05:55,689 Speaker 1: crippled Travis Bickle. Unable to come up with anything that 97 00:05:55,770 --> 00:06:00,410 Speaker 1: felt right, paralysis set in. Joey began spending all day 98 00:06:00,450 --> 00:06:03,650 Speaker 1: in his room, a shadow behind a bedsheet. 99 00:06:04,609 --> 00:06:06,449 Speaker 3: They'd all be in the living room right next to 100 00:06:06,489 --> 00:06:10,089 Speaker 3: my room, hanging out, watching a movie, drinking, hanging and 101 00:06:10,130 --> 00:06:12,370 Speaker 3: doing the thing, and I would be in my room, 102 00:06:12,529 --> 00:06:16,289 Speaker 3: just like making people uncomfortable with by not, you know, 103 00:06:16,489 --> 00:06:17,169 Speaker 3: being out there. 104 00:06:17,849 --> 00:06:20,409 Speaker 1: Joey had been living in the loft several weeks when 105 00:06:20,409 --> 00:06:24,290 Speaker 1: he realized just how isolated he'd become. One day, well, 106 00:06:24,330 --> 00:06:26,729 Speaker 1: waiting outside the bathroom, he ran into one of his 107 00:06:26,770 --> 00:06:27,450 Speaker 1: new roommates. 108 00:06:27,890 --> 00:06:30,930 Speaker 3: She She was like, oh, Hi, what's your name? Oh 109 00:06:30,969 --> 00:06:35,849 Speaker 3: where do you live? I was like, uh, here, I'd 110 00:06:35,890 --> 00:06:39,210 Speaker 3: live here. 111 00:06:44,770 --> 00:06:49,010 Speaker 1: Eventually, Joey began avoiding the loft altogether. He'd spend every 112 00:06:49,089 --> 00:06:52,489 Speaker 1: day wandering the street, only returning in the evening. 113 00:06:53,570 --> 00:06:55,089 Speaker 3: When I was back in my house at night, I 114 00:06:55,089 --> 00:06:58,130 Speaker 3: would sneak into my room and then make and then 115 00:06:58,169 --> 00:07:00,890 Speaker 3: make it drink make sure I didn't drink too much 116 00:07:00,890 --> 00:07:03,210 Speaker 3: water so that my bladder was empty so I wouldn't 117 00:07:03,250 --> 00:07:05,489 Speaker 3: have to leave my room to pee. My new goal 118 00:07:05,609 --> 00:07:08,169 Speaker 3: was to just be as unobtrusive as a roommate as possible, 119 00:07:08,810 --> 00:07:13,569 Speaker 3: be invisible, so in this time I would just try 120 00:07:13,570 --> 00:07:16,850 Speaker 3: to spend all my day out of the house, out 121 00:07:16,850 --> 00:07:21,170 Speaker 3: on my rollerblades, which I had also recently taken up. 122 00:07:22,130 --> 00:07:25,489 Speaker 1: Everyone needs a hobby, and Joey found one that provided 123 00:07:25,530 --> 00:07:28,210 Speaker 1: both good exercise as well as a way to free 124 00:07:28,330 --> 00:07:32,090 Speaker 1: himself from the oppressive yoke of human dignity. And so 125 00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:35,530 Speaker 1: it was while rollerblading that Joey discovered his new home 126 00:07:35,570 --> 00:07:40,530 Speaker 1: away from home, the pizza Parlor. The pizza parlor played 127 00:07:40,570 --> 00:07:43,330 Speaker 1: cool music and had cool art on the walls. It 128 00:07:43,450 --> 00:07:46,730 Speaker 1: even served cool pizza. There was one shape like a 129 00:07:46,770 --> 00:07:51,650 Speaker 1: marijuana leaf, and other shape like circles. But because Joey 130 00:07:51,730 --> 00:07:55,009 Speaker 1: was Joey, even a simple thing like ordering pizza was 131 00:07:55,050 --> 00:07:59,010 Speaker 1: a challenge, and so he rehearsed his icebreakers. 132 00:07:59,810 --> 00:08:02,569 Speaker 3: I found myself like making sure I could you know, 133 00:08:02,650 --> 00:08:05,730 Speaker 3: have something to say, like preparing something for the quick 134 00:08:06,250 --> 00:08:08,489 Speaker 3: interaction while I buy my pizza. 135 00:08:08,730 --> 00:08:09,570 Speaker 1: Like kind of thing. 136 00:08:10,650 --> 00:08:12,970 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like if it's raining out, I would 137 00:08:13,050 --> 00:08:14,650 Speaker 3: have something clever to say about. 138 00:08:14,369 --> 00:08:17,690 Speaker 1: That, Or give me an example of the clever thing 139 00:08:17,730 --> 00:08:18,970 Speaker 1: that you would say when it was raining. 140 00:08:19,970 --> 00:08:26,850 Speaker 3: I'd say, oh, man, bummer, and this is not rollerblading weather, okay, 141 00:08:26,890 --> 00:08:29,489 Speaker 3: like I would, or I don't know what I'm trying 142 00:08:29,489 --> 00:08:29,730 Speaker 3: to say. 143 00:08:31,610 --> 00:08:35,330 Speaker 1: Slowly, Joey began making social inroads, even managing to earn 144 00:08:35,410 --> 00:08:40,010 Speaker 1: himself a nickname, that rollerblading guy. His fantasy is a 145 00:08:40,090 --> 00:08:43,370 Speaker 1: fun and friendship with his bohemian loft buddies were over, 146 00:08:43,970 --> 00:08:46,170 Speaker 1: but his fantasy is a fun in friendship with his 147 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:49,770 Speaker 1: bohemian pizza parlor buddies had only just begun. 148 00:08:50,650 --> 00:08:54,330 Speaker 3: I had planned on continuing to visit there and making 149 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:58,730 Speaker 3: these friendships grow and hopefully progressing them to real life 150 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:00,050 Speaker 3: friendships outside of the shop. 151 00:09:04,530 --> 00:09:07,410 Speaker 1: And so every morning Joey would blade straight to the 152 00:09:07,450 --> 00:09:11,170 Speaker 1: self service refrigerator that housed the day old dollar slices. 153 00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:14,930 Speaker 3: I pretty much exclusively ate pizza from that moment on 154 00:09:15,770 --> 00:09:20,130 Speaker 3: for all your meals pretty much. There was definitely days 155 00:09:20,170 --> 00:09:22,650 Speaker 3: that went by when it was just pizza, Like how 156 00:09:22,650 --> 00:09:25,450 Speaker 3: many slices a day. Were you eating to say four 157 00:09:25,530 --> 00:09:28,410 Speaker 3: or five two for breakfast and then stick them in 158 00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:29,770 Speaker 3: my backpack for the rest of the day. 159 00:09:31,210 --> 00:09:33,970 Speaker 1: What were you doing for fruits and vegetables? 160 00:09:34,730 --> 00:09:40,090 Speaker 3: I occasionally got the veggie slice. 161 00:09:40,170 --> 00:09:44,650 Speaker 1: And that was Joey's life, eating za, rolling blades, and 162 00:09:44,690 --> 00:09:49,610 Speaker 1: waiting for old man scurvy until one terrible, horrible, no good, 163 00:09:49,970 --> 00:09:55,610 Speaker 1: very bad day, January fourteenth, was like every other day. 164 00:09:56,170 --> 00:09:59,050 Speaker 1: I woke up to go get my pizza, headed into 165 00:09:59,130 --> 00:10:04,770 Speaker 1: the shop and unfortunately I only found pepperoni in the fridge. 166 00:10:04,970 --> 00:10:09,250 Speaker 1: Joey is a vegetarian, and so without having prepared anything 167 00:10:09,130 --> 00:10:13,490 Speaker 1: and clever to say, like pepperoni pizza, Oh man, bummer, 168 00:10:13,730 --> 00:10:18,530 Speaker 1: Pepperonis aren't vegetarian, he instead said nothing and tried to 169 00:10:18,610 --> 00:10:21,970 Speaker 1: just roller blade back out the door without anyone noticing. 170 00:10:22,970 --> 00:10:25,530 Speaker 1: But he'd only bladed a couple of blocks when he 171 00:10:25,570 --> 00:10:28,130 Speaker 1: saw a familiar face biking towards him. 172 00:10:28,570 --> 00:10:31,690 Speaker 3: And it's one of the pizza chefs. So I just 173 00:10:31,730 --> 00:10:34,250 Speaker 3: thought he was gonna hell, I don't know. I thought 174 00:10:34,290 --> 00:10:37,250 Speaker 3: he was gonna say, what's up, man, let's hang out. 175 00:10:37,290 --> 00:10:38,410 Speaker 3: What's your name? 176 00:10:38,450 --> 00:10:38,610 Speaker 8: Will? 177 00:10:38,890 --> 00:10:41,610 Speaker 7: Let's you know. I thought he was just interested in me. 178 00:10:43,370 --> 00:10:45,050 Speaker 3: So I was excited to see him biking towards me, 179 00:10:46,410 --> 00:10:49,570 Speaker 3: and I took off my headphones to greet him. And 180 00:10:49,610 --> 00:11:00,770 Speaker 3: the first thing he said is don't come back. I said, 181 00:11:00,770 --> 00:11:03,490 Speaker 3: excuse me. He said, you're taking slices. 182 00:11:04,850 --> 00:11:09,689 Speaker 1: I said what, And then it clicked, flipping through the 183 00:11:09,730 --> 00:11:13,490 Speaker 1: dollar slices and then abruptly leaving in silence. Looked fishy, 184 00:11:14,130 --> 00:11:15,610 Speaker 1: like Joey was stealing pizza. 185 00:11:16,690 --> 00:11:21,090 Speaker 3: And I was kind of like panicking talking to him, 186 00:11:21,130 --> 00:11:22,490 Speaker 3: like I could feel that I could hear the panic 187 00:11:22,570 --> 00:11:24,890 Speaker 3: in my woice and stuff. But I didn't know what 188 00:11:24,930 --> 00:11:26,809 Speaker 3: to say, so I kind of just I was kind 189 00:11:26,810 --> 00:11:29,730 Speaker 3: of speechless, and I, you know, didn't have the confidence 190 00:11:29,770 --> 00:11:36,770 Speaker 3: to keep fighting. Okay, Yeah, and then he. 191 00:11:35,290 --> 00:11:36,850 Speaker 7: He biked away. 192 00:11:37,050 --> 00:11:40,250 Speaker 3: I started crying on the streets, and I must have 193 00:11:40,290 --> 00:11:43,450 Speaker 3: looked ridiculous, rollerblading down the street while crying. 194 00:11:44,690 --> 00:11:47,810 Speaker 1: At that point, it was a terrible day. It became 195 00:11:47,890 --> 00:11:52,250 Speaker 1: horrible as well as no good and very bad when Joey, 196 00:11:52,290 --> 00:11:55,970 Speaker 1: crying on the street, received a phone call bearing more 197 00:11:56,010 --> 00:11:59,930 Speaker 1: bad news. 198 00:12:00,770 --> 00:12:05,130 Speaker 3: The roommates had been kind of talking and they that 199 00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:10,090 Speaker 3: they used the words getting under their skin. 200 00:12:11,690 --> 00:12:16,450 Speaker 1: The roommates found Joey's silent, sneaky ways, unsettling. They wanted 201 00:12:16,530 --> 00:12:17,130 Speaker 1: him out. 202 00:12:18,090 --> 00:12:22,730 Speaker 3: I like went and got my stuff, and I don't know, 203 00:12:22,810 --> 00:12:27,130 Speaker 3: I basically moved out in that moment. I like just 204 00:12:27,250 --> 00:12:33,370 Speaker 3: left without without seeing anybody, and I kind of ran away. 205 00:12:37,650 --> 00:12:40,210 Speaker 1: As the day came to a close, Joey called the 206 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:43,330 Speaker 1: one person he always calls, the person he's leaned on 207 00:12:43,410 --> 00:12:47,170 Speaker 1: his whole life, Elise, his twin sister. 208 00:12:48,130 --> 00:12:50,010 Speaker 3: She gave me the same advice that everyone did, which 209 00:12:50,050 --> 00:12:53,370 Speaker 3: is just you know, go talk to them, be normal. 210 00:12:55,770 --> 00:12:59,010 Speaker 3: But I don't know, I mean, I never was able 211 00:12:59,050 --> 00:13:02,050 Speaker 3: to take that advice from anybody coming from her, though 212 00:13:02,050 --> 00:13:05,370 Speaker 3: it was especially I felt especially bad. 213 00:13:06,610 --> 00:13:09,690 Speaker 4: He was like almost in tears telling me this story. 214 00:13:10,770 --> 00:13:13,770 Speaker 1: Elise knows Joey better than anyone, and he's relied on 215 00:13:13,810 --> 00:13:17,530 Speaker 1: her socially his entire life. When he started dating, Elise 216 00:13:17,610 --> 00:13:19,810 Speaker 1: introduced him to her friends, and when he was too 217 00:13:19,890 --> 00:13:23,450 Speaker 1: anxious to attend family functions, Elise would go in his place. 218 00:13:24,210 --> 00:13:26,690 Speaker 4: And he told me about how he cried, which is 219 00:13:26,770 --> 00:13:29,050 Speaker 4: always he doesn't cry that often. 220 00:13:29,170 --> 00:13:29,290 Speaker 7: Hm. 221 00:13:29,370 --> 00:13:31,210 Speaker 4: Hm, you could tell it was a big deal that 222 00:13:31,250 --> 00:13:34,490 Speaker 4: he expressed that he cried about it. And he told 223 00:13:34,490 --> 00:13:38,090 Speaker 4: the whole story and I was laughing so hard because 224 00:13:39,610 --> 00:13:42,250 Speaker 4: it's a really funny story, and I wanted him to 225 00:13:42,290 --> 00:13:44,450 Speaker 4: see that it was funny too, and he could see 226 00:13:44,490 --> 00:13:48,330 Speaker 4: the humor in it, but he was also pretty clearly devastated. 227 00:13:49,290 --> 00:13:51,929 Speaker 1: When I ask Elise what's so funny about her brother 228 00:13:52,010 --> 00:13:54,970 Speaker 1: crying on the phone, she makes a pretty strong case, 229 00:13:55,530 --> 00:13:59,370 Speaker 1: casually eviscerating him in the way only a loving sister can. 230 00:13:59,890 --> 00:14:04,250 Speaker 4: Him and his rollerblades and often like funny looking tank tops, 231 00:14:04,290 --> 00:14:08,210 Speaker 4: his like creeper mustache, and his mullet definitely wait, just 232 00:14:08,210 --> 00:14:08,850 Speaker 4: the look. 233 00:14:08,650 --> 00:14:11,330 Speaker 1: Of him, Hang on a second. He has a mullet. 234 00:14:12,490 --> 00:14:24,850 Speaker 4: Full mullet full, full, creepy young child mustache, and his 235 00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:30,290 Speaker 4: shoulders and arms look looks strong, but they're small, and 236 00:14:30,370 --> 00:14:35,250 Speaker 4: same with his legs. His legs are shockingly skinny. They 237 00:14:35,290 --> 00:14:37,850 Speaker 4: do have an incredible shine to them, I will admit. 238 00:14:38,130 --> 00:14:39,450 Speaker 1: Does he does he play? 239 00:14:40,770 --> 00:14:43,810 Speaker 4: I'm not sure that's ointment. I'm guessing that's just his 240 00:14:43,930 --> 00:14:44,730 Speaker 4: oily self. 241 00:14:49,290 --> 00:14:51,450 Speaker 1: I don't want Joey to have to wait years and 242 00:14:51,530 --> 00:14:54,370 Speaker 1: years like I did, just to know the sweet joys 243 00:14:54,410 --> 00:14:58,650 Speaker 1: of uncrippling an abnormality. So I asked Joey's oily self 244 00:14:58,810 --> 00:15:01,290 Speaker 1: what he most wants out of all this, and the 245 00:15:01,330 --> 00:15:04,970 Speaker 1: answer he delivers is pretty to the point, almost like 246 00:15:05,050 --> 00:15:05,850 Speaker 1: he's rehearsed it. 247 00:15:06,730 --> 00:15:09,890 Speaker 3: I want to say sorry that that I wasn't able 248 00:15:09,890 --> 00:15:14,130 Speaker 3: to leave my room. I wish they knew how I felt, basically. 249 00:15:14,930 --> 00:15:17,650 Speaker 1: But when I put forward my action plan for Joey 250 00:15:17,690 --> 00:15:22,010 Speaker 1: to fix his bad day by rerollerblading through it, rerollerblading 251 00:15:22,090 --> 00:15:24,490 Speaker 1: back to the pizza parlor to clear his name, and 252 00:15:24,610 --> 00:15:28,490 Speaker 1: rerollerblading to the loft to apologize for being such a creepy, 253 00:15:28,490 --> 00:15:32,130 Speaker 1: sneaky roommate, I can hear the beads of sweat squeak 254 00:15:32,210 --> 00:15:35,330 Speaker 1: out of Joey's hairline and saturate his mullet. 255 00:15:36,250 --> 00:15:42,010 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I'm definitely Yeah, I've definitely been meaning to, 256 00:15:42,170 --> 00:15:48,010 Speaker 3: but the prospect is pretty scary. Just mentioning it, I 257 00:15:48,050 --> 00:15:49,010 Speaker 3: got nervous, for sure. 258 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:53,850 Speaker 1: Joey still wants to be invisible, but decades of experience 259 00:15:53,930 --> 00:15:57,450 Speaker 1: have taught me that oftentimes the more invisible you try 260 00:15:57,490 --> 00:16:01,130 Speaker 1: to make yourself, the more visible you become. So if 261 00:16:01,130 --> 00:16:03,890 Speaker 1: I have my way, Joey will no longer have to 262 00:16:04,010 --> 00:16:08,570 Speaker 1: hide in the metaphorical bush like a young metaphorical Jonathan Goldstein. 263 00:16:15,250 --> 00:16:29,850 Speaker 1: After the break helping Joey to stop spinning his wheels. Okay, 264 00:16:29,970 --> 00:16:31,730 Speaker 1: hold the line for a moment, Joey, all right. 265 00:16:32,530 --> 00:16:36,490 Speaker 3: Sounds good. Hang on, I'm practicing my witty retorts anything. 266 00:16:36,490 --> 00:16:38,770 Speaker 3: Don't do that, Okay. 267 00:16:40,370 --> 00:16:42,690 Speaker 1: During the ad break, while you were loading up on 268 00:16:42,930 --> 00:16:47,130 Speaker 1: unbelievable deals, I was considering the full extent of Joey's 269 00:16:47,130 --> 00:16:52,330 Speaker 1: dilemma as much as Jonathan Debonair Goldstein wanted to help him. 270 00:16:52,650 --> 00:16:56,810 Speaker 1: The truth is, Jonathan Stuart Goldstein is actually a lot 271 00:16:56,850 --> 00:16:59,770 Speaker 1: like Joey, and so I made a phone call to 272 00:16:59,810 --> 00:17:03,530 Speaker 1: an old friend, a man whose example and critical feedback, 273 00:17:04,010 --> 00:17:07,449 Speaker 1: some might say overly critical feedback, have helped me to 274 00:17:07,490 --> 00:17:13,169 Speaker 1: become the animal associate alibis. I am today, happy, confident, 275 00:17:13,770 --> 00:17:16,850 Speaker 1: out of the shrubs and loving it. And I was 276 00:17:16,889 --> 00:17:20,769 Speaker 1: hoping you could work the same magic on Joey. Joey, 277 00:17:20,770 --> 00:17:22,050 Speaker 1: this is my friend Gregor. 278 00:17:22,609 --> 00:17:25,209 Speaker 7: Howdy. 279 00:17:25,369 --> 00:17:28,649 Speaker 1: Hey, So Joey was living in this loft and he 280 00:17:29,010 --> 00:17:32,369 Speaker 1: Gregor is the exact opposite of Joey and me in 281 00:17:32,409 --> 00:17:36,090 Speaker 1: any given social interaction. He's never afraid to stand out, 282 00:17:36,570 --> 00:17:40,209 Speaker 1: never afraid to say the wrong thing. Case in point, 283 00:17:40,689 --> 00:17:42,729 Speaker 1: was Johnny kidding when he said you're wearing rollerblades. 284 00:17:43,050 --> 00:17:46,530 Speaker 7: No, I am a rollerblader, but. 285 00:17:46,570 --> 00:17:48,609 Speaker 5: So you rollerbladed into the store wearing your. 286 00:17:48,530 --> 00:17:49,850 Speaker 7: Rollerblades, that's right. 287 00:17:50,810 --> 00:17:53,090 Speaker 5: I have these very vivid memories of being in Central 288 00:17:53,129 --> 00:17:56,410 Speaker 5: Park and seeing these people, mostly grown men, on rollerblades 289 00:17:56,449 --> 00:17:58,850 Speaker 5: with that folded hands over the lower back and their 290 00:17:58,929 --> 00:18:01,570 Speaker 5: body bent forward like zipping around in like a lycroskin suit, 291 00:18:01,649 --> 00:18:03,889 Speaker 5: the big giant grin as they gasped for breath, and like, 292 00:18:03,970 --> 00:18:04,529 Speaker 5: goggles on. 293 00:18:05,129 --> 00:18:06,449 Speaker 1: You got all that out of your system. 294 00:18:06,730 --> 00:18:09,569 Speaker 5: I hate rollerbladers, and I hate everything about rollerbla but 295 00:18:09,609 --> 00:18:11,369 Speaker 5: I think most people don't have the cardage to ask 296 00:18:11,369 --> 00:18:13,250 Speaker 5: for help. It takes a very big man to ask 297 00:18:13,290 --> 00:18:15,929 Speaker 5: for help. Okay, so the guy wants to roller blade. 298 00:18:15,929 --> 00:18:16,729 Speaker 7: Fine. 299 00:18:18,609 --> 00:18:22,810 Speaker 1: Since Joey feels most comfortable when he's rehearsing social interactions, 300 00:18:23,209 --> 00:18:26,889 Speaker 1: I suggest we do some role playing. Joey plays himself 301 00:18:27,090 --> 00:18:30,729 Speaker 1: and Gregor plays the pizza shop owner. After ten minutes 302 00:18:30,770 --> 00:18:35,249 Speaker 1: deliberating over his character's name, Gregor decides on Carmine, please 303 00:18:35,290 --> 00:18:37,850 Speaker 1: call me Karmi. All right, stop just trying to a 304 00:18:38,010 --> 00:18:40,330 Speaker 1: little depth of the character. Don't do that. Once I 305 00:18:40,409 --> 00:18:43,969 Speaker 1: finish offering some helpful direction, we begin. So Okay, so 306 00:18:44,129 --> 00:18:47,250 Speaker 1: you're you're the owner. I'll do the folly work. I'll 307 00:18:47,250 --> 00:18:52,129 Speaker 1: make any necessary sounds. Okay, Joey, you're coming up to 308 00:18:52,129 --> 00:18:54,289 Speaker 1: the pizza parlor, tingle, tingle. 309 00:18:55,770 --> 00:19:00,769 Speaker 3: Hey, so it's been a long time. I don't know 310 00:19:00,810 --> 00:19:05,290 Speaker 3: if you heard I. 311 00:19:05,290 --> 00:19:06,249 Speaker 7: I had a bit of a. 312 00:19:08,770 --> 00:19:13,010 Speaker 1: Joe trails off even in a simulation. His nerves get 313 00:19:13,010 --> 00:19:16,090 Speaker 1: the better of him. I try to inspire him with 314 00:19:16,169 --> 00:19:19,969 Speaker 1: more folly work. Tingle, tingle. The place is starting to 315 00:19:19,970 --> 00:19:21,530 Speaker 1: fill up a little, so you might want to spit 316 00:19:21,570 --> 00:19:23,889 Speaker 1: it out. Tingle, tingle, tingle, tingle. 317 00:19:23,929 --> 00:19:29,249 Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's like radio lab. Suddenly a monkey 318 00:19:29,330 --> 00:19:33,929 Speaker 5: came in. Gregor call me Carmen the whole duration of 319 00:19:33,970 --> 00:19:36,129 Speaker 5: this shoot. I need to be in character. I'm like 320 00:19:36,209 --> 00:19:38,649 Speaker 5: Daniel day Lewis. I will only answer if you call 321 00:19:38,730 --> 00:19:39,169 Speaker 5: me CARMI. 322 00:19:39,369 --> 00:19:41,409 Speaker 1: Why did I even have you be the shop owner? 323 00:19:41,409 --> 00:19:42,850 Speaker 1: Why wasn't I the shop owner? 324 00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:45,290 Speaker 5: I could be your son who's got like bigger dreams. 325 00:19:45,330 --> 00:19:47,209 Speaker 5: I don't want to spend my whole life singing pizza 326 00:19:47,409 --> 00:19:49,889 Speaker 5: derailing that I got big dreams. I want to get 327 00:19:49,929 --> 00:19:53,969 Speaker 5: into real estate, commercial real estate. I want to least laundromats. 328 00:19:54,090 --> 00:19:55,250 Speaker 5: See I'm not like you. 329 00:19:55,250 --> 00:19:56,129 Speaker 1: You really, I want to. 330 00:19:56,129 --> 00:20:00,129 Speaker 5: Have a self storage unit. They're very profitable, don't you see? 331 00:20:02,010 --> 00:20:03,769 Speaker 5: Now we're gelling as a team right at the very end. 332 00:20:03,850 --> 00:20:05,489 Speaker 5: As you start to fade us down, you can't even 333 00:20:05,530 --> 00:20:06,449 Speaker 5: hear what I'm saying anymore. 334 00:20:07,409 --> 00:20:10,369 Speaker 1: Sure, Gregor was taking none of the work seriously, But 335 00:20:10,490 --> 00:20:14,410 Speaker 1: Joey was enjoying Gregor, and in his own way, Gregor 336 00:20:14,770 --> 00:20:26,169 Speaker 1: was enjoying Joey. It looked like Gregor was in I 337 00:20:26,209 --> 00:20:28,970 Speaker 1: noticed that you like to sit very close to the gate. 338 00:20:30,129 --> 00:20:32,369 Speaker 1: Gregor and I meet at the airport for the flight 339 00:20:32,449 --> 00:20:35,529 Speaker 1: to see Joey in La. While squatting on the floor 340 00:20:35,730 --> 00:20:39,649 Speaker 1: staring fixedly at the gate, Gregor shares some insider tips 341 00:20:39,689 --> 00:20:40,889 Speaker 1: on air travel. 342 00:20:40,970 --> 00:20:43,130 Speaker 5: Because when they say extra time getting down the gate, 343 00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:45,050 Speaker 5: joe Way, you're allowed to run. 344 00:20:44,929 --> 00:20:45,850 Speaker 7: Past those people. 345 00:20:51,850 --> 00:20:53,249 Speaker 1: You're allowed. 346 00:20:54,330 --> 00:20:56,649 Speaker 5: See if like I could easily run outrun that little 347 00:20:56,689 --> 00:20:59,850 Speaker 5: girl in the purple. Anyway, Johnny, stick with me. I'm 348 00:20:59,850 --> 00:21:03,890 Speaker 5: gonna show you how to board this big bird. That's 349 00:21:03,889 --> 00:21:05,609 Speaker 5: where I stay at the pilot when I bought the claim. 350 00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:09,130 Speaker 5: Let's bring this big bird down brother. That way, he 351 00:21:09,169 --> 00:21:12,250 Speaker 5: knows I'm a member of the free Eternity of aviation. 352 00:21:21,250 --> 00:21:22,770 Speaker 7: Cross check at ready to grow accomplies. 353 00:21:23,850 --> 00:21:26,449 Speaker 1: Once we've board it, running down the jetway like a 354 00:21:26,449 --> 00:21:30,729 Speaker 1: couple of giggling idiots, Gregor regales me with stories the 355 00:21:30,810 --> 00:21:33,770 Speaker 1: time lou Reid threatened to put an ashtray through his head. 356 00:21:33,970 --> 00:21:35,569 Speaker 5: No he didn't, Yeah, heavy glass one. 357 00:21:35,689 --> 00:21:38,010 Speaker 1: The time a taxi driver told me he had eyes 358 00:21:38,090 --> 00:21:41,250 Speaker 1: like his dead brothers. That's a terrible story. The time 359 00:21:41,490 --> 00:21:44,050 Speaker 1: all dozen or so members of the Wu Tang clan 360 00:21:44,369 --> 00:21:47,330 Speaker 1: squeezed onto his living room couch. He asked for my 361 00:21:47,409 --> 00:21:50,649 Speaker 1: seat to t Then come the aviation stories, all the 362 00:21:50,689 --> 00:21:53,129 Speaker 1: flights he's been on where people have died. 363 00:21:53,369 --> 00:21:55,290 Speaker 5: But then there was another photos on when someone died 364 00:21:55,369 --> 00:21:57,209 Speaker 5: right next to me, and they were literally doing the 365 00:21:57,250 --> 00:21:59,490 Speaker 5: thing on the PA where they're like there's any doctors 366 00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:02,850 Speaker 5: on board? And I was like, I'm kind of a doctor. 367 00:22:03,090 --> 00:22:04,409 Speaker 1: How are you kind of a doctor? 368 00:22:04,449 --> 00:22:08,010 Speaker 5: I'm a very good diagnostician. Look, we're on twenty five RL. 369 00:22:08,209 --> 00:22:09,530 Speaker 5: It's one of my favorite always. 370 00:22:14,689 --> 00:22:16,689 Speaker 1: Gregor and I rent a car and meet up with 371 00:22:16,770 --> 00:22:20,409 Speaker 1: Joey at his favorite coffee shop. From here, we planned 372 00:22:20,409 --> 00:22:23,529 Speaker 1: to head to the pizza parlor, get him unbanned, and 373 00:22:23,570 --> 00:22:26,489 Speaker 1: then go to the loft so Joey can apologize to 374 00:22:26,570 --> 00:22:27,649 Speaker 1: his former roommates. 375 00:22:28,609 --> 00:22:30,409 Speaker 3: Morning, nice to meet hi. 376 00:22:30,570 --> 00:22:31,290 Speaker 1: How are you Hi? 377 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:33,450 Speaker 4: How you? 378 00:22:34,369 --> 00:22:38,369 Speaker 1: As well as being rollerblade footed, Joey's just as chopstick legged, 379 00:22:38,530 --> 00:22:42,609 Speaker 1: mustache lipped, and mullet headed, as his sister Relise had cautioned, 380 00:22:44,209 --> 00:22:45,969 Speaker 1: did it take you a while to decide like what 381 00:22:46,010 --> 00:22:48,729 Speaker 1: you were going to wear today? Joey seems anxious, so 382 00:22:48,810 --> 00:22:52,929 Speaker 1: I asked him, Joey, are you anxious? But before he 383 00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:54,929 Speaker 1: can answer, Gregor steps in. 384 00:22:55,250 --> 00:22:56,570 Speaker 5: John, Let's take it from here. You don't want to 385 00:22:56,570 --> 00:22:58,209 Speaker 5: make the guy nervous by asking me if he was nervous, 386 00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:59,930 Speaker 5: why don't you go around in a circle and each say, 387 00:22:59,929 --> 00:23:01,570 Speaker 5: a member of the woutang until we get on. 388 00:23:02,449 --> 00:23:06,450 Speaker 1: With his idiot's game. What Gregor's really doing is distracting Joey, 389 00:23:06,810 --> 00:23:12,609 Speaker 1: protecting him, in this case, protecting him from me. Ready, Okay, 390 00:23:12,649 --> 00:23:19,770 Speaker 1: I'll start the diju. Let's stop just this is the genius, genius? Okay, 391 00:23:21,409 --> 00:23:27,290 Speaker 1: stop number one? The pizza parlor? Is this the place? 392 00:23:27,449 --> 00:23:28,609 Speaker 5: What time they open? Eleven? 393 00:23:29,290 --> 00:23:29,450 Speaker 8: Oh? 394 00:23:29,449 --> 00:23:31,810 Speaker 3: I'm getting nervous. My stomach is jumping. 395 00:23:32,369 --> 00:23:34,649 Speaker 1: Oh wait here, Joey, I have some in the creer 396 00:23:34,770 --> 00:23:38,490 Speaker 1: just in case. As Joey's mentor, I know he runs 397 00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:41,530 Speaker 1: a pretty good chance of choking, so I prepared him 398 00:23:41,530 --> 00:23:44,169 Speaker 1: some notes during my flight. Okay, here you go. Read this. 399 00:23:45,810 --> 00:23:45,929 Speaker 7: Right. 400 00:23:47,050 --> 00:23:49,330 Speaker 3: You guys were like family to me, and when you 401 00:23:49,330 --> 00:23:51,929 Speaker 3: accuse me of theft, I try it slower. 402 00:23:52,010 --> 00:23:55,929 Speaker 1: You guys were like family. Go ahead. 403 00:23:56,810 --> 00:23:58,850 Speaker 3: You guys were like family to me, and when you 404 00:23:58,889 --> 00:24:03,690 Speaker 3: accuse me of theft, I mishandled the situation. I became discombobulated. 405 00:24:03,889 --> 00:24:06,449 Speaker 3: I should have defended myself, told you I'm no thief. 406 00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:11,169 Speaker 1: Although we want to offer for Joey help, it's important 407 00:24:11,169 --> 00:24:14,530 Speaker 1: that he do this on his own. No Gregor, no Jonathan, 408 00:24:14,970 --> 00:24:18,850 Speaker 1: no Elise. We'll be there with Q cards and emotional support, 409 00:24:19,369 --> 00:24:22,769 Speaker 1: but ultimately Joey needs to enter the pizza shop and 410 00:24:22,850 --> 00:24:24,650 Speaker 1: make his case solo. 411 00:24:25,169 --> 00:24:26,889 Speaker 5: We're gonna let Joey shine. 412 00:24:27,970 --> 00:24:30,529 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think like you bring your shinebox, Joey. 413 00:24:31,050 --> 00:24:32,689 Speaker 1: Are you getting the reference to the shinebox? 414 00:24:33,010 --> 00:24:34,689 Speaker 7: That would be a You guys got a lot of references. 415 00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:35,010 Speaker 7: O don't that? 416 00:24:35,209 --> 00:24:38,409 Speaker 1: Have you seen Good Fellas? Do your joe pesci for 417 00:24:38,570 --> 00:24:39,930 Speaker 1: Joey just to loosen him up a little. 418 00:24:40,209 --> 00:24:42,609 Speaker 5: Ed was one tough irishman. I put his head in 419 00:24:42,649 --> 00:24:45,250 Speaker 5: advice three days until his eyebowl pop. 420 00:24:45,290 --> 00:24:54,689 Speaker 1: That yet, get too vegetarian pizzas stuff. I instruct Joey 421 00:24:54,689 --> 00:24:58,369 Speaker 1: to order pizza and kombucha's for his roommates. This way, 422 00:24:58,609 --> 00:25:01,129 Speaker 1: the pizza parlor crew will see he's not just a 423 00:25:01,209 --> 00:25:04,409 Speaker 1: dollar slice guy, but someone capable of committing to an 424 00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:08,490 Speaker 1: entire pie and a vinegar and bile based beverage. It'll 425 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:09,650 Speaker 1: show personal growth. 426 00:25:10,369 --> 00:25:12,249 Speaker 5: Just have fun. 427 00:25:14,490 --> 00:25:20,170 Speaker 1: Joey swings open the door and roller blades inside. Remember 428 00:25:20,209 --> 00:25:25,530 Speaker 1: the rollerblading this whole time, Joey's been wheels down wearing 429 00:25:25,609 --> 00:25:29,049 Speaker 1: his blades. You might want to rewind a few minutes 430 00:25:29,209 --> 00:25:32,609 Speaker 1: and re listen with that image in your mind. And 431 00:25:32,649 --> 00:25:35,929 Speaker 1: it's not just the roller blades. Joey is also wearing 432 00:25:35,929 --> 00:25:40,090 Speaker 1: a wire. So standing outside, Gregor and I can eavesdrop 433 00:25:40,129 --> 00:25:43,249 Speaker 1: on how things are going inside the parlor. Do you 434 00:25:43,290 --> 00:25:43,690 Speaker 1: want to hear? 435 00:25:44,530 --> 00:25:44,730 Speaker 4: Wow? 436 00:25:44,770 --> 00:25:48,689 Speaker 1: I can't stand well. Gregor paces back and forth on 437 00:25:48,730 --> 00:25:52,369 Speaker 1: the sidewalk. I cut an earphone and listen as Joey 438 00:25:52,409 --> 00:25:53,330 Speaker 1: rolls up to the counter. 439 00:25:54,209 --> 00:25:55,250 Speaker 3: Hey, how's it going? 440 00:25:56,449 --> 00:25:58,169 Speaker 1: Joey is greeted by a pizza chef. 441 00:25:58,570 --> 00:26:00,649 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if you remember me, I used 442 00:26:00,649 --> 00:26:04,090 Speaker 3: to come here all the time. I was kicked out 443 00:26:04,129 --> 00:26:07,290 Speaker 3: of your shop a couple months back for stealing slices, 444 00:26:07,449 --> 00:26:10,689 Speaker 3: even like I was accused of slices. No, I totally 445 00:26:10,770 --> 00:26:12,970 Speaker 3: know why you thought it was me, because it looks 446 00:26:13,010 --> 00:26:14,330 Speaker 3: like I mean, I came in. 447 00:26:14,290 --> 00:26:17,049 Speaker 1: Gregor and I watched nervously through the storefront window. 448 00:26:17,290 --> 00:26:18,129 Speaker 7: Oh he's blowing it. 449 00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:20,529 Speaker 8: I rushed him. 450 00:26:20,570 --> 00:26:20,770 Speaker 4: Sat. 451 00:26:22,090 --> 00:26:24,850 Speaker 1: Joey isn't mounting a defense, and he isn't offering a 452 00:26:24,889 --> 00:26:29,210 Speaker 1: counter narrative. Instead, he's exhibiting a level of mealy moothery 453 00:26:29,570 --> 00:26:32,850 Speaker 1: not seen since a young Jonathan Goldstein tried to explain 454 00:26:32,889 --> 00:26:36,330 Speaker 1: to a trolley conductor why he was hiding in a bush. 455 00:26:36,409 --> 00:26:37,850 Speaker 3: And I was kind of hoping I could come back 456 00:26:37,889 --> 00:26:40,050 Speaker 3: just because I love But as Gregor and I bicker 457 00:26:40,290 --> 00:26:43,090 Speaker 3: over whether to walk inside and roll Joey out the 458 00:26:43,129 --> 00:26:46,250 Speaker 3: door like a dessert trolley full of flaming horse manure, 459 00:26:46,889 --> 00:26:49,449 Speaker 3: we noticed something. I know, it's weird that's been so long, 460 00:26:49,490 --> 00:26:51,889 Speaker 3: but I just like felt really bad at me, was 461 00:26:51,889 --> 00:26:52,649 Speaker 3: really embarrassed. 462 00:26:52,889 --> 00:26:54,730 Speaker 7: Really, I'm sorry, she's really nice. 463 00:26:55,090 --> 00:26:57,570 Speaker 1: Saw like someone come in and with like roller seats. 464 00:26:58,010 --> 00:27:00,290 Speaker 1: I remember that day I was recommitting. Not only does 465 00:27:00,330 --> 00:27:04,570 Speaker 1: she remember that day, but she also remembers Joey always. 466 00:27:04,250 --> 00:27:06,369 Speaker 7: A guy who came in like several times. 467 00:27:06,129 --> 00:27:07,689 Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, no, I see, I think that was me. 468 00:27:08,090 --> 00:27:09,449 Speaker 1: Kind of remembers Joeoe. 469 00:27:09,850 --> 00:27:10,409 Speaker 6: I came in. 470 00:27:10,689 --> 00:27:11,530 Speaker 1: I'm a vegetarian. 471 00:27:11,570 --> 00:27:14,169 Speaker 3: I saw that you guys only had Pepperoni slices because 472 00:27:14,169 --> 00:27:15,529 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, not for me, And I just 473 00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:17,930 Speaker 3: turned around totally looks like I just grab one. 474 00:27:17,929 --> 00:27:20,090 Speaker 1: And since he didn't do it, you know, you don't 475 00:27:20,129 --> 00:27:21,169 Speaker 1: have anything to apologize for. 476 00:27:21,330 --> 00:27:22,649 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to make sure you, like you 477 00:27:22,689 --> 00:27:25,730 Speaker 3: guys don't think I did a man Okay, okay, cool? 478 00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:29,649 Speaker 1: Yeah, if he was willing to come back to face 479 00:27:29,689 --> 00:27:33,609 Speaker 1: his accusers, she says, he probably didn't steal the pizza, 480 00:27:34,050 --> 00:27:39,209 Speaker 1: and with that, Joey orders his pies and kombucha's with 481 00:27:39,290 --> 00:27:42,489 Speaker 1: her faces pressed against the window. Gregor and I watch 482 00:27:42,570 --> 00:27:45,929 Speaker 1: with amazement as Joey waits for his order while engaging 483 00:27:45,970 --> 00:27:52,410 Speaker 1: in some completely unscripted repartee cool song. He says, totally. 484 00:27:52,570 --> 00:27:58,409 Speaker 1: She says this band is so cool. He says yeah. 485 00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:02,810 Speaker 1: She says, we didn't prepare Joey for any of this, 486 00:28:03,490 --> 00:28:06,729 Speaker 1: but here he was riffing and scatting away like some 487 00:28:06,889 --> 00:28:11,449 Speaker 1: kind of improvisational jazz cat. Carmine would have been proud, 488 00:28:12,169 --> 00:28:19,130 Speaker 1: thank you very much, and tingle tingle. Joey emerges from 489 00:28:19,129 --> 00:28:26,570 Speaker 1: the restaurant holding our pizzas aloft like trophies. Joey, oh 490 00:28:26,609 --> 00:28:27,169 Speaker 1: you did it. 491 00:28:27,250 --> 00:28:28,489 Speaker 7: Oh my god, I'm shake it. 492 00:28:28,649 --> 00:28:31,689 Speaker 1: I'm shake it. You did a great job. Despite his 493 00:28:31,770 --> 00:28:34,449 Speaker 1: fear of saying the wrong thing, Joey had managed to 494 00:28:34,449 --> 00:28:38,050 Speaker 1: put himself out there and stumble his way through. Joey, 495 00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:40,729 Speaker 1: that was great, Like, yeah, you really like and you 496 00:28:40,730 --> 00:28:42,370 Speaker 1: did it by yourself. We didn't have to go in 497 00:28:42,490 --> 00:28:42,930 Speaker 1: or anything. 498 00:28:43,410 --> 00:28:44,050 Speaker 7: That's awesome. 499 00:28:44,690 --> 00:28:47,010 Speaker 3: Oh I really really was nervous that I felt my 500 00:28:47,090 --> 00:28:49,009 Speaker 3: leg completely shaking. I thought she was going to look 501 00:28:49,050 --> 00:28:51,090 Speaker 3: down and just see my leg shaking like it. 502 00:28:51,170 --> 00:28:54,970 Speaker 5: Okay, on one to ten, how do you feel did 503 00:28:55,010 --> 00:28:55,650 Speaker 5: you wrestle the bear? 504 00:28:56,610 --> 00:28:58,450 Speaker 3: Because I know I still have to go to the loft. 505 00:28:58,450 --> 00:29:00,370 Speaker 3: It's you know, the relief has it come. 506 00:29:00,450 --> 00:29:07,570 Speaker 1: But after the break, Joey tries rolling up a much 507 00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:14,249 Speaker 1: harder hill, apologizing to people he actually knows. 508 00:29:14,370 --> 00:29:16,249 Speaker 5: Those people you live with, they actually know the real joy. 509 00:29:16,290 --> 00:29:18,050 Speaker 5: I mean, maybe they didn't like the real joys. But 510 00:29:18,090 --> 00:29:19,250 Speaker 5: they knew who you were. 511 00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:21,650 Speaker 7: No, I don't think they did. I mean I hope 512 00:29:21,650 --> 00:29:22,050 Speaker 7: they did that. 513 00:29:30,850 --> 00:29:32,610 Speaker 1: Do you think it's a good sign that the roommates 514 00:29:32,610 --> 00:29:34,210 Speaker 1: did not respond. No. 515 00:29:34,209 --> 00:29:34,289 Speaker 7: No. 516 00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:35,930 Speaker 3: To be honest, I'm pretty nervous about that. 517 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:40,970 Speaker 1: Joey had tried to contact his former loftmates via group 518 00:29:41,050 --> 00:29:43,570 Speaker 1: text to let them know he'd be coming by to talk. 519 00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:46,249 Speaker 1: But as we stand on the street in front of 520 00:29:46,290 --> 00:29:51,570 Speaker 1: the building, our kombucha bubbling and vegetarian pizzas congealing, Joey 521 00:29:51,650 --> 00:29:55,210 Speaker 1: checks and re checks his phone, not a single one 522 00:29:55,250 --> 00:29:58,290 Speaker 1: of his former roommates has responded. 523 00:29:58,010 --> 00:30:00,410 Speaker 5: Not even like any response is not a good sign. 524 00:30:00,530 --> 00:30:03,730 Speaker 1: Well maybe that's better than like responding by saying I'm 525 00:30:03,770 --> 00:30:06,850 Speaker 1: not interested. Right, the loft is on the second floor, 526 00:30:06,890 --> 00:30:09,529 Speaker 1: behind the metal gate, and there's no doorbell. 527 00:30:09,650 --> 00:30:11,730 Speaker 5: All right, let's figure out how to get into this fortress. 528 00:30:12,490 --> 00:30:15,569 Speaker 1: There's no drain pipe to shimmy, no fire escape banister 529 00:30:15,690 --> 00:30:18,330 Speaker 1: to reverse oli. All we can do is wait for 530 00:30:18,370 --> 00:30:21,250 Speaker 1: someone to come in or out. Gregor fills the time 531 00:30:21,490 --> 00:30:23,249 Speaker 1: with yet another aviation story. 532 00:30:24,090 --> 00:30:26,049 Speaker 5: When I was going through the TSA, the lady was like, 533 00:30:26,209 --> 00:30:27,729 Speaker 5: could you pull your pants up a little bit? 534 00:30:29,209 --> 00:30:30,690 Speaker 1: You just told me to take my belt off. 535 00:30:30,810 --> 00:30:32,170 Speaker 5: Now my pants are falling down. You want me to 536 00:30:32,209 --> 00:30:32,930 Speaker 5: pull my pants up? 537 00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:33,490 Speaker 6: Which is it? 538 00:30:33,770 --> 00:30:35,330 Speaker 7: You really get told to play an? 539 00:30:35,650 --> 00:30:37,090 Speaker 5: I get told that every time I go through the t. 540 00:30:37,290 --> 00:30:39,410 Speaker 1: Where's a belt with a pair of shorts? You wear 541 00:30:39,410 --> 00:30:40,610 Speaker 1: a belt and shorts? 542 00:30:40,690 --> 00:30:43,210 Speaker 5: Yep, I never heard of that. How do you think 543 00:30:43,209 --> 00:30:43,770 Speaker 5: I keep mouth? 544 00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:47,010 Speaker 1: I think someone's coming. Thankfully we're interrupted. 545 00:30:49,130 --> 00:30:50,210 Speaker 3: Yoh, how's it going? 546 00:30:51,570 --> 00:30:54,930 Speaker 1: One of Joey's old roommates emerges. He's a hip young 547 00:30:54,970 --> 00:30:58,370 Speaker 1: man who, if not wearing a straw pork pie hat 548 00:30:58,410 --> 00:31:02,330 Speaker 1: and carrying a gondola paddle, is certainly giving off that vibe, 549 00:31:02,690 --> 00:31:08,770 Speaker 1: a Venetian boatman vibe. Joey, foregoing all social foreplay, dives 550 00:31:08,890 --> 00:31:09,370 Speaker 1: right in. 551 00:31:09,930 --> 00:31:12,650 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here because I want to apologize. I don't 552 00:31:12,650 --> 00:31:16,329 Speaker 3: know if you've got the group text. Oh yeah, I 553 00:31:16,410 --> 00:31:18,050 Speaker 3: just wanted I felt really bad about how I left 554 00:31:18,090 --> 00:31:21,290 Speaker 3: things here, so I brought some pizza and my friends here. 555 00:31:21,490 --> 00:31:26,130 Speaker 1: Okay, Joey gestures over to his friends, two balding middle 556 00:31:26,170 --> 00:31:30,050 Speaker 1: aged men slumping behind him like bald scarecrows stuffed with 557 00:31:30,170 --> 00:31:30,610 Speaker 1: muse ley. 558 00:31:31,530 --> 00:31:35,610 Speaker 9: Hey, right, okay, all right, well this is really awkward 559 00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:36,370 Speaker 9: in a surprise. 560 00:31:36,770 --> 00:31:39,569 Speaker 6: All right, I was just going. 561 00:31:38,930 --> 00:31:39,490 Speaker 2: Out of my car. 562 00:31:39,730 --> 00:31:40,090 Speaker 7: Okay. 563 00:31:40,209 --> 00:31:45,930 Speaker 1: So the boatman isn't very receptive, but Joey persists, does. 564 00:31:45,890 --> 00:31:47,250 Speaker 3: Anyone else tell him if you want to, like, ask 565 00:31:47,290 --> 00:31:49,890 Speaker 3: if they are okay with me coming up like that? 566 00:31:50,250 --> 00:31:51,330 Speaker 7: Okay, thank you so much. 567 00:31:54,450 --> 00:31:57,050 Speaker 1: It's taken all of Joey's courage to return to the 568 00:31:57,090 --> 00:31:59,969 Speaker 1: place where the coolest art kids in La live, and 569 00:32:00,010 --> 00:32:03,850 Speaker 1: he's still being denied entry. As Joey stares in silence 570 00:32:03,890 --> 00:32:06,330 Speaker 1: at the steel door that's just clanged shut, in his 571 00:32:06,410 --> 00:32:10,090 Speaker 1: mustachioed face, I struggle to come up with something positive 572 00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:14,969 Speaker 1: to say. I think you handled yourself. 573 00:32:14,970 --> 00:32:17,610 Speaker 7: Well, I'm extremely nervous right now. I don't feel good 574 00:32:17,610 --> 00:32:18,730 Speaker 7: about how this is going. 575 00:32:20,530 --> 00:32:24,450 Speaker 1: Upstairs, the gondolier is saying to his roommate something along 576 00:32:24,490 --> 00:32:28,650 Speaker 1: the lines of, Hey, remember that silent roller skating weirdo 577 00:32:28,730 --> 00:32:32,769 Speaker 1: we kicked out of our art loft. Well, he's downstairs 578 00:32:33,450 --> 00:32:42,050 Speaker 1: with pizza and his two gay dads. But then, yo, hey, what's. 579 00:32:42,410 --> 00:32:45,570 Speaker 6: How you doing. 580 00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:48,530 Speaker 1: Zach is the unofficial head of the household, the guy 581 00:32:48,530 --> 00:32:51,289 Speaker 1: who takes care of all the square noormy stuff like 582 00:32:51,370 --> 00:32:54,890 Speaker 1: throwing out expired cottage cheese and paying the rent on time. 583 00:32:55,450 --> 00:33:00,209 Speaker 1: He's bearded and shaggy. He turns to Joey. Joey stares 584 00:33:00,250 --> 00:33:03,650 Speaker 1: down at his rollerblades and starts mumbling explanations. 585 00:33:04,410 --> 00:33:06,690 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just thought, I mean, I didn't think it 586 00:33:06,730 --> 00:33:10,050 Speaker 3: was just like, I just thought, like. 587 00:33:10,290 --> 00:33:13,410 Speaker 1: I haven't heard this much mealy mouthing since I guess 588 00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:16,049 Speaker 1: an hour ago, when Joey was at the pizza parlor. 589 00:33:17,209 --> 00:33:21,969 Speaker 1: Zach looks at Joey skeptically. His arms are crossed. Nonetheless 590 00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:24,250 Speaker 1: Joey's soldiers on, I. 591 00:33:24,209 --> 00:33:27,289 Speaker 3: Just feel really bad about kind of how how I 592 00:33:27,370 --> 00:33:30,570 Speaker 3: left things here. Yeah, I know that I wasn't the 593 00:33:30,610 --> 00:33:33,530 Speaker 3: best roommate, and I feel really bad and just kind 594 00:33:33,530 --> 00:33:36,610 Speaker 3: of uncomfortable about like just you know, even just how 595 00:33:36,650 --> 00:33:38,690 Speaker 3: you guys think about me. But I just wanted to 596 00:33:39,050 --> 00:33:40,730 Speaker 3: apologize and make things right. 597 00:33:44,050 --> 00:33:46,130 Speaker 6: There were things like that bugged me. Here we go. 598 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:49,290 Speaker 1: Whereas the pizza chef had been impressed with the mere 599 00:33:49,330 --> 00:33:52,969 Speaker 1: fact Joey had returned, for Zach, that wasn't enough. 600 00:33:54,490 --> 00:33:56,490 Speaker 9: You had your headphones on a lot, and you had 601 00:33:56,890 --> 00:33:58,050 Speaker 9: noise canceling headphones. 602 00:33:58,050 --> 00:33:59,530 Speaker 6: You're just like in your world. 603 00:33:59,490 --> 00:34:01,850 Speaker 1: He launches into a laundry list of grievances. 604 00:34:02,050 --> 00:34:04,570 Speaker 6: Didn't clean the bathroom, and I was just. 605 00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:08,770 Speaker 1: Like dude, Joey ignored everybody, never cleaned up after himself. 606 00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:10,650 Speaker 1: I ever even washed a dish. 607 00:34:10,610 --> 00:34:13,609 Speaker 9: The amount of rant or who's paying what? Or why 608 00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:16,090 Speaker 9: are you paying her and not paying Ah? 609 00:34:16,330 --> 00:34:19,970 Speaker 1: The worst thing Joey could imagine was happening. He was 610 00:34:20,010 --> 00:34:24,610 Speaker 1: being seen and told that he'd always been seen. He 611 00:34:24,730 --> 00:34:27,690 Speaker 1: put all his effort into trying to become invisible and 612 00:34:27,730 --> 00:34:30,770 Speaker 1: absolutely no effort into doing his share of the chores. 613 00:34:31,570 --> 00:34:34,730 Speaker 1: That's why his roommates wanted him out. They'd seen him 614 00:34:34,770 --> 00:34:38,450 Speaker 1: visibly not cleaning the loft, visibly not taking out the garbage, 615 00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:41,489 Speaker 1: trying to hide but not really hiding at all. 616 00:34:41,970 --> 00:34:44,250 Speaker 6: He taking an advantage of And that's what I was. 617 00:34:44,170 --> 00:34:48,010 Speaker 1: Like, whoa O If ordering a pizza had given Joey 618 00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:51,690 Speaker 1: the Jimmy legs, facing Zach was giving Joey the Joey 619 00:34:51,770 --> 00:34:54,850 Speaker 1: leg a name I've just coined for a condition in 620 00:34:54,890 --> 00:34:58,810 Speaker 1: which one's entire body becomes one single Jimmy leg that 621 00:34:59,130 --> 00:35:02,969 Speaker 1: is a Joey leg that won't stop Jimmy ing is like. 622 00:35:02,890 --> 00:35:03,890 Speaker 6: A liberty, you know. 623 00:35:04,130 --> 00:35:07,969 Speaker 1: But while Joey is Jimmy ing. He isn't folding, He's 624 00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:08,850 Speaker 1: not running away. 625 00:35:09,210 --> 00:35:13,570 Speaker 6: But it was just the way that it was done. Yeah. 626 00:35:14,130 --> 00:35:18,930 Speaker 1: As Zach finishes speaking, Joey maintains eye contact, and what's more, 627 00:35:19,450 --> 00:35:23,130 Speaker 1: as the la breeze whips up the hindquarters of his mullet, 628 00:35:23,170 --> 00:35:26,970 Speaker 1: he does not fall prey to his lifelong crutch, silence, 629 00:35:27,970 --> 00:35:33,570 Speaker 1: without notes, without wittyish rejoinders. He responds, all this stuff, 630 00:35:33,610 --> 00:35:33,770 Speaker 1: like the. 631 00:35:34,010 --> 00:35:36,810 Speaker 3: Not paying rent on time, and just all the story stuff, 632 00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:40,650 Speaker 3: all that stems from this shyness, this like the weirdness 633 00:35:40,650 --> 00:35:43,250 Speaker 3: and like just feeling uncomfortable to like, I don't know, 634 00:35:43,330 --> 00:35:46,009 Speaker 3: be in the public space kind of just because I'm 635 00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:48,850 Speaker 3: weird and shy. And I can't blame it on anything 636 00:35:48,850 --> 00:35:51,010 Speaker 3: but myself. I mean, it was all It's all me. 637 00:35:51,090 --> 00:35:54,410 Speaker 3: It's like my own things. Zach looks at Joey's I 638 00:35:54,450 --> 00:35:56,490 Speaker 3: wish I was more able to like be friendly with you. 639 00:35:56,490 --> 00:35:59,850 Speaker 1: Guys, sees him struggling, and his face softens. 640 00:36:02,690 --> 00:36:06,650 Speaker 9: I understand like having social anxiety, having like issues where 641 00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:09,370 Speaker 9: you're like you feel something that's like strangling you in 642 00:36:09,410 --> 00:36:11,290 Speaker 9: a position where you have to converse or whatever. 643 00:36:11,770 --> 00:36:12,930 Speaker 6: Like I can understand that. 644 00:36:13,730 --> 00:36:16,530 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I only wanted to just be friends with you, guys. 645 00:36:17,010 --> 00:36:19,290 Speaker 6: I have I appreciate it. Where were you staying now? 646 00:36:19,890 --> 00:36:23,490 Speaker 1: Awkwardness is just a step along the way to vulnerability, 647 00:36:24,210 --> 00:36:27,850 Speaker 1: and being vulnerable, allowing yourself to be seen is the 648 00:36:27,850 --> 00:36:30,450 Speaker 1: only soil from which friendship can grow. 649 00:36:30,490 --> 00:36:32,210 Speaker 6: I love your funky style. 650 00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:36,330 Speaker 1: And what better fertilizer than a mutual love of the mullet. 651 00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:40,250 Speaker 9: I've been contemplating a similar mullet as yours, but I 652 00:36:40,250 --> 00:36:43,090 Speaker 9: don't know if my hair would work as much as yours. 653 00:36:43,170 --> 00:36:44,210 Speaker 6: You have a different volume. 654 00:36:44,530 --> 00:36:47,370 Speaker 1: So as Zach and Joey wax on about the beauty 655 00:36:47,370 --> 00:36:54,009 Speaker 1: of Joey's ape drape, another loft made appears in the stairway. Nice, yeah, 656 00:36:54,090 --> 00:37:06,850 Speaker 1: if that's okay, that's great, Thank you, Holy cow. This 657 00:37:06,890 --> 00:37:08,050 Speaker 1: is a really big space. 658 00:37:08,290 --> 00:37:08,969 Speaker 8: It's good. 659 00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:12,450 Speaker 1: Joey leads Gregor and I on a tour through the 660 00:37:12,490 --> 00:37:16,049 Speaker 1: old audio cassettes and dummy heads, past the kickboxing bag 661 00:37:16,090 --> 00:37:19,050 Speaker 1: and vinyl collection, and ends the tour in a truly 662 00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:23,490 Speaker 1: empty V cribs kind of way at his old bedroom 663 00:37:24,050 --> 00:37:27,610 Speaker 1: where the magic happened. And by magic, I mean where 664 00:37:27,690 --> 00:37:31,650 Speaker 1: Joey slept on the floor wrapped in unwashed blankets. 665 00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:33,370 Speaker 7: This is where they used to stay. 666 00:37:33,570 --> 00:37:45,570 Speaker 1: Did you have a mattress? Joey breaks out the pizza 667 00:37:45,610 --> 00:37:48,210 Speaker 1: and kombucha, and we all gathered by the hot plate 668 00:37:48,290 --> 00:37:48,930 Speaker 1: for a toast. 669 00:37:49,250 --> 00:37:52,250 Speaker 5: You're supposed to actually look up, look at each other's eyes. 670 00:37:56,530 --> 00:37:57,210 Speaker 7: The communication. 671 00:38:04,970 --> 00:38:09,290 Speaker 1: After we choke back our kombucha, I suggest the symbolic gesture, Hey, 672 00:38:09,450 --> 00:38:12,010 Speaker 1: you want to you want to wash all the glassy 673 00:38:12,370 --> 00:38:12,570 Speaker 1: I do. 674 00:38:15,010 --> 00:38:16,170 Speaker 5: This is totally ridiculous. 675 00:38:18,170 --> 00:38:19,770 Speaker 1: You're gonna use soap and everything. 676 00:38:21,650 --> 00:38:23,570 Speaker 5: I don't know if it's good with the vision or 677 00:38:23,610 --> 00:38:23,970 Speaker 5: something that. 678 00:38:24,050 --> 00:38:24,650 Speaker 4: Stop with them. 679 00:38:28,090 --> 00:38:30,730 Speaker 1: Just as we're about to leave, Gregor decides he'd like 680 00:38:30,770 --> 00:38:34,090 Speaker 1: to use the bathroom. And whereas a couple of shrinky 681 00:38:34,130 --> 00:38:37,090 Speaker 1: and sneaky violets like Joey and me might just slink 682 00:38:37,130 --> 00:38:39,410 Speaker 1: off looking for it, Gregor does not. 683 00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:41,290 Speaker 5: It might be too much of in a position if 684 00:38:41,330 --> 00:38:43,370 Speaker 5: I was to leave a little urine in your toilet 685 00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:44,930 Speaker 5: on the way out. 686 00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:48,930 Speaker 1: By embracing the awkwardness of life, acknowledging that we are 687 00:38:49,010 --> 00:38:53,730 Speaker 1: creatures who require toilets, Gregor somehow makes things less awkward, 688 00:38:54,370 --> 00:39:04,090 Speaker 1: at least for himself. Gregor has mastered something that Joey 689 00:39:04,130 --> 00:39:08,370 Speaker 1: is still learning, the art of saying here I am, 690 00:39:08,410 --> 00:39:15,210 Speaker 1: even when ping into a toilet while wearing a lapel microphone. 691 00:39:25,410 --> 00:39:30,530 Speaker 6: You're welcome, Thank you, take it easy. 692 00:39:30,650 --> 00:39:34,570 Speaker 3: Thanks. 693 00:39:30,930 --> 00:39:39,490 Speaker 1: After leaving the loft, there's only one thing left to redo. 694 00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:40,250 Speaker 8: Hello. 695 00:39:41,410 --> 00:39:45,370 Speaker 1: Yeah, Joey phones up his twin sister release and this 696 00:39:45,450 --> 00:39:49,610 Speaker 1: time he isn't crying. It was so good, it was 697 00:39:49,650 --> 00:39:50,890 Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah. 698 00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:52,450 Speaker 3: I think he genuinely forgave me. 699 00:39:53,770 --> 00:39:55,250 Speaker 7: And I did it all on my lone, son. 700 00:39:56,290 --> 00:39:56,890 Speaker 6: No, you did it. 701 00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:58,250 Speaker 7: You needed so much help. 702 00:40:00,090 --> 00:40:02,690 Speaker 3: Well after I got the help, I did it on myself, 703 00:40:02,810 --> 00:40:04,690 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, but now I just feel like 704 00:40:04,730 --> 00:40:06,410 Speaker 3: I can do it on myself by myself. 705 00:40:06,930 --> 00:40:08,930 Speaker 7: I'm very I am really proud of you that I know. 706 00:40:09,170 --> 00:40:10,690 Speaker 1: It takes a lot, it did. 707 00:40:11,490 --> 00:40:12,210 Speaker 3: It takes a lot from me. 708 00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:13,490 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, more than anyone. 709 00:40:13,970 --> 00:40:19,170 Speaker 1: Your proudness feels good. I'm not surprised that Elise is proud, 710 00:40:19,570 --> 00:40:22,130 Speaker 1: but I'm taken aback to see that. Gregor looks proud too, 711 00:40:22,890 --> 00:40:26,570 Speaker 1: proud of himself, of course, but also with Joey. So 712 00:40:26,690 --> 00:40:29,770 Speaker 1: once Joey gets off the phone, Gregor offers up some 713 00:40:29,890 --> 00:40:30,770 Speaker 1: fatherly advice. 714 00:40:31,210 --> 00:40:33,130 Speaker 5: I understand what it is to be young. It's a 715 00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:37,170 Speaker 5: tough phase until you're about forty five. Life is really difficult, okay, 716 00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:39,810 Speaker 5: and then from there on in it's all just sitting 717 00:40:39,810 --> 00:40:41,770 Speaker 5: in one of those soapbox derby cars rolling down the 718 00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:44,130 Speaker 5: hill to your sinescence and eventual death. 719 00:40:44,770 --> 00:40:46,090 Speaker 1: Gregor, you're depressing the guy. 720 00:40:46,330 --> 00:40:49,610 Speaker 5: I'm coming to my Hallmark inspirational line. I'd say it's 721 00:40:49,610 --> 00:40:53,410 Speaker 5: a tough fifteen to twenty five year period. It's very unpleasant, 722 00:40:53,450 --> 00:40:54,610 Speaker 5: really most of it. 723 00:40:56,650 --> 00:40:58,290 Speaker 7: Could you repeat that Hallmark line again? 724 00:41:03,930 --> 00:41:08,090 Speaker 1: And with that, Joey pulls off his unlikeliest feet, yet 725 00:41:08,330 --> 00:41:14,130 Speaker 1: he gets in a genuine off the cough zinger. Gregor 726 00:41:14,170 --> 00:41:23,930 Speaker 1: and I had brought this big bird down, Guang. There 727 00:41:23,970 --> 00:41:25,530 Speaker 1: we going. 728 00:41:39,010 --> 00:41:48,529 Speaker 8: Now that the fernitures returning to its goodwill home, now 729 00:41:48,610 --> 00:41:53,410 Speaker 8: that the last month's rant is skating with the damage 730 00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:56,610 Speaker 8: to Posle, take this moment to dissolve. 731 00:41:59,210 --> 00:42:04,610 Speaker 2: If we meant it, if we talked, we felt around 732 00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:05,410 Speaker 2: for far. 733 00:42:08,410 --> 00:42:09,690 Speaker 8: Thanks accident. 734 00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:19,810 Speaker 1: Hello Joey, Oh wait, here comes our surprise. Guest. 735 00:42:20,210 --> 00:42:22,890 Speaker 7: You ready for it? 736 00:42:22,770 --> 00:42:29,730 Speaker 1: It comes? Gregor, you look very moisturized. 737 00:42:30,010 --> 00:42:32,050 Speaker 5: Did you have an HR policy where you're not supposed 738 00:42:32,050 --> 00:42:34,330 Speaker 5: to comment on people's physical appearance? Because I think Johnny 739 00:42:34,330 --> 00:42:36,050 Speaker 5: skipped that day when he was getting on boarded. 740 00:42:36,330 --> 00:42:39,250 Speaker 1: Well that, I mean, that's a compliment, don't you think, Yes, 741 00:42:39,330 --> 00:42:40,050 Speaker 1: young lady, you. 742 00:42:39,970 --> 00:42:40,970 Speaker 5: Look great in that druss. 743 00:42:41,010 --> 00:42:41,810 Speaker 1: You really fill it out. 744 00:42:41,850 --> 00:42:44,930 Speaker 5: Well that's a compliment too. I mean, come on, I 745 00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:48,570 Speaker 5: that's time like you had a mullet and were rollerblading 746 00:42:48,610 --> 00:42:51,930 Speaker 5: and eating a slice of pizza and had like eleven roommates. 747 00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:55,090 Speaker 3: Not too much has changed. Some things are have improved. 748 00:42:55,410 --> 00:42:59,969 Speaker 1: Can I see the back of your head and you've 749 00:42:59,970 --> 00:43:01,130 Speaker 1: still got a mustache? 750 00:43:01,330 --> 00:43:04,130 Speaker 7: I do, it's grown in. That's what seven years will do. 751 00:43:04,650 --> 00:43:07,170 Speaker 1: Wow, look at that, you've grown up, just in the 752 00:43:07,170 --> 00:43:11,410 Speaker 1: blink of an eye exactly. So we just wanted to 753 00:43:11,490 --> 00:43:13,370 Speaker 1: check in with you and see how you were doing. 754 00:43:13,770 --> 00:43:16,130 Speaker 5: I want to hear about how now like you were 755 00:43:16,170 --> 00:43:18,810 Speaker 5: sort of pushed out of the nest that instead of 756 00:43:18,810 --> 00:43:20,930 Speaker 5: falling to the sidewalk and getting eaten by a cat, 757 00:43:21,370 --> 00:43:28,970 Speaker 5: you have taken off to soar with the seagulls. 758 00:43:27,730 --> 00:43:31,850 Speaker 1: Bernie and ethel seagull. All right, listen, we're getting off 759 00:43:31,850 --> 00:43:33,650 Speaker 1: track here, Joey. We're here to hear about you. 760 00:43:33,810 --> 00:43:34,450 Speaker 7: I was enjoying this. 761 00:43:34,650 --> 00:43:36,450 Speaker 1: So what's going on in your in your life? Are 762 00:43:36,490 --> 00:43:38,210 Speaker 1: you in la? I? 763 00:43:38,370 --> 00:43:41,130 Speaker 3: Actually I'm in New York and I moved out here 764 00:43:41,170 --> 00:43:42,610 Speaker 3: about four years ago. 765 00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:44,730 Speaker 1: How many roommates do you have? 766 00:43:45,530 --> 00:43:47,010 Speaker 7: This will shock you zero. 767 00:43:47,690 --> 00:43:50,890 Speaker 1: So no, no bed sheet walls, just all you. 768 00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:54,610 Speaker 3: I do live in like a large studio apartment railroad 769 00:43:54,730 --> 00:43:57,930 Speaker 3: style where there's like multiple rooms without proper doors, so 770 00:43:57,970 --> 00:44:00,690 Speaker 3: they are separated by what kind of looks like a 771 00:44:00,690 --> 00:44:01,090 Speaker 3: bed sheet. 772 00:44:01,130 --> 00:44:02,930 Speaker 7: It's like a curtain. I don't know if you can 773 00:44:02,930 --> 00:44:03,489 Speaker 7: tell the back. 774 00:44:03,970 --> 00:44:05,530 Speaker 1: Was that something that you were looking for? You you 775 00:44:05,570 --> 00:44:07,730 Speaker 1: told the real estate agent that you wanted something with 776 00:44:07,730 --> 00:44:08,210 Speaker 1: bed sheet. 777 00:44:08,770 --> 00:44:09,009 Speaker 7: Yeah. 778 00:44:09,090 --> 00:44:11,890 Speaker 3: I don't feel at home unless i'm around bad shoots. 779 00:44:12,010 --> 00:44:15,290 Speaker 1: Joey's doing. Joey's thriving. Look he's got a cow. Is 780 00:44:15,330 --> 00:44:16,450 Speaker 1: that a couch you're sitting on? 781 00:44:17,890 --> 00:44:20,770 Speaker 3: It's a share I don't have a couch. 782 00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:24,250 Speaker 1: Oh are you still rollerblading? 783 00:44:24,570 --> 00:44:27,530 Speaker 3: Of course I still love rollerblading, but I also I 784 00:44:27,610 --> 00:44:29,810 Speaker 3: found that I love riding a bicycle too. 785 00:44:29,850 --> 00:44:30,490 Speaker 5: I have a question. 786 00:44:30,930 --> 00:44:32,090 Speaker 1: Oh go ahead, gregor. 787 00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:35,210 Speaker 5: Not too personal? Are you drinking your own urine? What's 788 00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:35,570 Speaker 5: all right? 789 00:44:35,690 --> 00:44:40,170 Speaker 1: So good talk, Joey. Any thing you'd like to say 790 00:44:40,210 --> 00:44:40,770 Speaker 1: in parting? 791 00:44:41,850 --> 00:44:44,330 Speaker 3: I guess I want to say thank you for helping 792 00:44:44,370 --> 00:44:45,290 Speaker 3: me all those years ago. 793 00:44:45,810 --> 00:44:49,090 Speaker 7: It actually, I do think meant something and it worked. 794 00:44:49,730 --> 00:44:50,010 Speaker 2: Did it? 795 00:44:50,090 --> 00:44:50,370 Speaker 8: Really? 796 00:44:50,970 --> 00:44:53,850 Speaker 7: I think it did? How so I felt a lot 797 00:44:53,890 --> 00:44:54,890 Speaker 7: more confident after that. 798 00:44:55,730 --> 00:44:57,930 Speaker 3: Just yeah, I mean the lessons imparted on the day, 799 00:44:57,930 --> 00:45:00,890 Speaker 3: but also just hearing it back. 800 00:45:01,130 --> 00:45:03,130 Speaker 7: Over the years, I've revisited. 801 00:45:02,610 --> 00:45:06,170 Speaker 3: It and whenever I do, it makes me laugh first, 802 00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:08,770 Speaker 3: but also kind of shows me how far I've come. 803 00:45:09,170 --> 00:45:09,810 Speaker 7: So I'm grateful. 804 00:45:10,690 --> 00:45:14,529 Speaker 5: This may come across a slightly patronizing, but I feel 805 00:45:14,570 --> 00:45:15,610 Speaker 5: like Joey's all grown up. 806 00:45:15,850 --> 00:45:17,410 Speaker 7: I think I am. I think you're right. 807 00:45:18,290 --> 00:45:22,010 Speaker 1: Okay, let's close this out by all together ready. Woo 808 00:45:22,170 --> 00:45:43,290 Speaker 1: tang tang, Woo tang. Thanks to everyone who helped put 809 00:45:43,290 --> 00:45:46,970 Speaker 1: this episode together. We'll be back next week with another 810 00:45:47,250 --> 00:45:48,970 Speaker 1: encore presentation of Heavyweight 811 00:46:09,810 --> 00:46:10,130 Speaker 8: Cont