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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,
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Speaker 4: This is more of a chapel Roone reference is taking
Speaker 4: the world by storm and getting a parodied on SNL
Speaker 4: as most.
Speaker 3: The Thai hippo, which apparently I have to go see. Anyway,
Speaker 3: there is something we wanted to do, folks. This is
Speaker 3: our weekly strange news program, and we have such wonders
Speaker 3: to show you memory crystal that may preserve the human genome,
Speaker 3: some updates on your favorite deli meets. We've also got
Speaker 3: oh gosh, we've got so many other things. There's a
Speaker 3: lady smuggling maloney anyway, before.
Speaker 5: Were yeah, before we reached today, before.
Speaker 3: We do any of that, we wanted to share with
Speaker 3: you because you, conspiracy realists are the most important part
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Speaker 3: news about our longtime friends, I would say family at
Speaker 3: this point. Paul Mission controlled DECANDT and Alexis code named
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Speaker 4: Yeah, not like from this mortal coil, but like you know,
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Speaker 4: And to your point, Ben, we love them both dearly
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna miss them like crazy. They've been an
Speaker 2: integral part of the show since gosh, I don't even
Speaker 2: know how many years has been now. Yeah, I got
Speaker 2: to catch up with Alexis a little bit. By the way.
Speaker 2: She's currently on a train ride all across like the
Speaker 2: northern United States, seeing beautiful places and feeling good.
Speaker 5: So does not surprise me.
Speaker 3: And I have to water her plants that we're really
Speaker 3: No story ever ends, folks, and we thank you again
Speaker 3: for joining us tonight. This is our cold open. Uh,
Speaker 3: we have to learn a lot about deli meat really quickly.
Speaker 2: And we've returned and we're going to New York City
Speaker 2: to talk about the mayor, the current mayor, the as
Speaker 2: of right now, Mayor Eric Adams, who is facing a
Speaker 2: lot of charges. Guys, some pretty serious charges.
Speaker 3: What a mayor of New York No way in a.
Speaker 4: Little cozy with some foreign operatives, maybe perhaps some veiled
Speaker 4: illegal campaign contributions.
Speaker 2: Say something like that. Mayor Eric Adams is now facing
Speaker 2: five counts of criminal offenses, including bribery, wirefraud, soliciting legal
Speaker 2: foreign campaign donations. There's an and in there that I missed,
Speaker 2: but you get the idea.
Speaker 5: It's not great.
Speaker 2: There's an indictment right now that alleges he sought and
Speaker 2: accepted illegal campaign funds over one hundred thousand dollars in
Speaker 2: luxury travel benefits from Turkish businessmen and an official seeking
Speaker 2: to gain his influence, which then theoretically would gain more
Speaker 2: influence and kind of go up the chain. That's the idea, right,
Speaker 2: when you gain political influence like that. Sure, and we're
Speaker 2: really just mentioning this because it's a big deal. You
Speaker 2: can read about it anywhere you want to right now, SNL.
Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Ben just parodied this whole situation. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a I don't know it's being joked about,
Speaker 2: because I think a lot of people nowadays think, oh, well,
Speaker 2: of obviously this is happening. This is happening with every mayor,
Speaker 2: with every governor, with every elected official. There's just money
Speaker 2: that exchanges hands. That's just how the sausage gets made
Speaker 2: into Ready, a.
Speaker 5: Lot of faith in our government officials.
Speaker 3: Or the daughterer kabab in this case.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like that, Matt, did you hear about did
Speaker 4: you hear the one about the Turkish building that was
Speaker 4: given a pass on fire safety inspection?
Speaker 5: That's true, Yeah, I heard about that.
Speaker 2: There's all kinds of other allegations that are going to
Speaker 2: be coming forward because according to authorities, Eric Adams was
Speaker 2: in what he went in, and he pleaded not guilty
Speaker 2: to all this stuff initially, and he's back in court
Speaker 2: right now, I think as we're recording this, or today
Speaker 2: or tomorrow, as we're recording this on Wednesday, October two,
Speaker 2: and he's just going to be fighting this lengthy legal
Speaker 2: battle because he's saying I'm not guilty, which means it's
Speaker 2: going to go through the courts and take a long time.
Speaker 2: Many people are calling for him to step down, but
Speaker 2: I don't don't think he's going to do that willingly.
Speaker 2: At least that's the posturing currently.
Speaker 5: Isn't he using the old witch hunt defense? Yes?
Speaker 2: I actually linked to a Fox News article. Guys, this
Speaker 2: on purpose because here's the title. Eric Adams calls out
Speaker 2: alleged collusion of Feds and mainstream media, asks judge for consequences.
Speaker 3: Sounds familiar, and he means consequences for the Feds, yes,
Speaker 3: for the ambiguous, nebulous mainstream media whatever that means. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it makes sense though, because it's not quite the same
Speaker 3: as the more red meat, juicy headlines of say the
Speaker 3: former Washington d C. Mayor who got caught smoking crack.
Speaker 3: This is a financial crime, right, and financial crime is
Speaker 3: often boring to people past the headline.
Speaker 5: It's such a crime against his constituents.
Speaker 4: Though it's awful he did a talk or talk is
Speaker 4: the wrong word. He gave a statement and did you
Speaker 4: hear the guy screaming at him through the Mega like.
Speaker 5: You're a disgrace to black men? You know?
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just he's not it's not going over
Speaker 4: well with the community. Let's say, and New York has
Speaker 4: a string of issues with corruption from their mayors.
Speaker 3: Right, And I will say that in a shout out
Speaker 3: to New York City. The public has now, you know,
Speaker 3: they've got the classic New York cynicism, but they also
Speaker 3: have a track record of calling public officials to account,
Speaker 3: which I think is an admirable trait that many other
Speaker 3: US cities could learn from. Also, Matt No, I'm sure
Speaker 3: you guys saw this. Former Governor Andrew Cuomo came in
Speaker 3: and said, hey, I'll be the mayor. You know, he's
Speaker 3: the guy he's pretty famous for nipple piercing's I think.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's true, that's true. He also, I don't know,
Speaker 3: it's just it's a bit I guess everybody is hungry
Speaker 3: in the world of politics. But it is a bit
Speaker 3: like hitting on the widow at the funeral.
Speaker 5: But didn't already have a shot. And he sucked too.
Speaker 5: He wasn't great, right, he was all thing.
Speaker 2: It's a real Gotham City stuff, guys. Because this investigation
Speaker 2: into Adams has been going on since twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: since before Eric Adams became mayor. Adams that you know,
Speaker 2: he's a former police officer that basically got up there
Speaker 2: and said we need law and order. Again sounds familiar,
Speaker 2: And the he was elected as mayor, and all the
Speaker 2: while FEDS had been just kind of peering over his
Speaker 2: shoulder and looking at all of his friends and family
Speaker 2: and kind of scary stuff.
Speaker 5: Oh did you guys hear that.
Speaker 4: One thing that exposed this is something probably for an
Speaker 4: episode exposed him was a pop video, a pop music
Speaker 4: video from the artist Sabrina Carpenter, who shot a video
Speaker 4: where she did some salacious dancing in a Catholic church
Speaker 4: and it was approved by the I guess the head,
Speaker 4: the head of the clergy at that church, and he
Speaker 4: had dealings with somebody that had dealings with atoms. And
Speaker 4: in the outcry for giving her permission to shoot that
Speaker 4: video at the church, they uncovered some stuff about atoms.
Speaker 4: She joked about it at a recent concert.
Speaker 2: Like, what the hell, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Want to know more about the red string of it all,
Speaker 4: you know, the conspiracy part of it all, I.
Speaker 2: Feel for sure. Yeah, sure, well, and we'll find out
Speaker 2: more about it as basically the lawsuit continues and as
Speaker 2: more stuff becomes available to the public because right now,
Speaker 2: stuff sealed. It's kind of the way it goes. But
Speaker 2: for now, let's just keep our ears and eyes open.
Speaker 2: But speaking of how the sausage is made, guys, we're
Speaker 2: jumping back to a story that Ben brought to us.
Speaker 2: I think we only had time to mention it when
Speaker 2: we talked about it in late July. Ben just mentioning
Speaker 2: that there was an outbreak at a boreshead facility in
Speaker 2: the liverwurst and it caused a bunch of injuries. Is
Speaker 2: there anything you want to catch us up on there,
Speaker 2: just about what happened initially?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately we did not have the time to get
Speaker 3: into it, but we did want to let everybody know,
Speaker 3: fellow listeners, that the listeria in boar's head is a
Speaker 3: very real thing. Again, we often talk about infrastructure compromise,
Speaker 3: the role of regulation, and I know a lot of
Speaker 3: people don't love to hear the R word, but there
Speaker 3: is a reason that you need to have non corporate
Speaker 3: entities in charge of food safety.
Speaker 5: Boom, is this something new? Because I thought we talked
Speaker 5: about this.
Speaker 4: It had something that your favorite turkey, the Salsilito turkey,
Speaker 4: it was also affected, right.
Speaker 2: That was a part of our conversation, but the main
Speaker 2: story was about liverwurst that was produced out of a
Speaker 2: specific Virginia facility. Jiratt I think is how you say
Speaker 2: it got it, and it was a super gross facility
Speaker 2: once it got fully investigated. When it hit our attention
Speaker 2: back then in late July early August, that's when basically
Speaker 2: the news was just breaking and there was a huge
Speaker 2: recall at the time. I think it was what a
Speaker 2: million pounds, which was a lot livers.
Speaker 3: But also it also was indicative of a tip of
Speaker 3: the iceberg situation exactly.
Speaker 2: And it's now moved up to seven million pounds of
Speaker 2: meat in total or something like that, and not just Liverworst,
Speaker 2: other meats that were produced in that same Virginia factory
Speaker 2: where the Liverworst appears to have gotten some listeria in it.
Speaker 3: Shout out to all my fellow cheap skates. Shout out
Speaker 3: to everybody who pulled that Larry David at the deli
Speaker 3: counter and said, well, what's the store brand?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, Well, but guys, I mean, Boreshead is everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 4: every bodega in New York City. I mean they've got
Speaker 4: the big boar's head sign. That's what they're making your
Speaker 4: HOGI out of.
Speaker 3: I mean you can ask them to use the less
Speaker 3: expensive Oh my god, I'm going to Larry David. You
Speaker 3: can't ask for the less expensive version.
Speaker 2: It's too much bad. But yes, this is very very serious.
Speaker 2: Fifty nine people in nineteen states were sicken from this
Speaker 2: listeria that was present in this specific meat. A tenth
Speaker 2: person died a very recently. September twenty fifth is when
Speaker 2: NBC San Diego reported on it. At least you can
Speaker 2: read that tenth death reported in Borishead Deli meat listeria outbreak.
Speaker 2: It's a huge deal. The illnesses were all reported between
Speaker 2: May and August of this year, and there were a
Speaker 2: bunch of other facilities that then got looked at after
Speaker 2: this one. Basically inspectors went in and they found horrifying stuff,
Speaker 2: you guys. The inspector reports revealed mold insects, dripping water,
Speaker 2: meat and fat residue on the walls, on the floors,
Speaker 2: and on the equipment dating back to at least two years.
Speaker 2: So this stuff had been just sitting there.
Speaker 5: Vintage meat is borish head done with no borsaid. No,
Speaker 5: you don't think so.
Speaker 2: Barshead is in major trouble. But what we're finding out
Speaker 2: as all of this is happening, there's a major law
Speaker 2: enforcement investigation of Boar's Head facilities across the country. You
Speaker 2: can jump over to CBS News and read Boar'shead plants
Speaker 2: nationwide now part of law enforcement investigation, USDA says, and
Speaker 2: you can read about how there is a super cozy
Speaker 2: relationship that bores had in particular had with the USDA
Speaker 2: UH and basically it was a pact that they made
Speaker 2: a long time ago. Basically it stated that since Bor's
Speaker 2: Head controls a lot of these facilities that are in
Speaker 2: super rural areas, they don't need to have federal inspectors
Speaker 2: come out and look at their facilities. They can get
Speaker 2: state inspectors to come out very specific maybe localized inspectors.
Speaker 3: Buddies we call them, Yeah, folks who can get touched exactly.
Speaker 4: What were you saying, Ben about the benefits of having
Speaker 4: government oversight over your food production?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean when it works, right Jesus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a decades old agreement that they've been going through.
Speaker 5: How is that legal?
Speaker 4: And I want to know who did this, Like, is
Speaker 4: there a document that seems certainly seems.
Speaker 5: Very loopholy and handshake agreement.
Speaker 3: Quote unquote, the investigation is ongoing, end quote.
Speaker 2: The that's exactly what they said, right.
Speaker 3: Right, because they're also tracing out the tendrils there of
Speaker 3: the corruption, like who took the handshake? Right the deals
Speaker 3: were made. We talked about corruption on a municipal level
Speaker 3: pretty often. When I say government regulation of food sources,
Speaker 3: things like food, water, and shelter, I'm talking about the
Speaker 3: federal level. And the Feds don't really play with this,
Speaker 3: you know, which is why the atoms stuff is still
Speaker 3: a sealed indictment because they don't really miss when they
Speaker 3: swing well.
Speaker 4: And to answer my own question, maybe about as boards
Speaker 4: had finished, it just occurs to me the statement rights itself.
Speaker 4: We had an agreement we thought made sense, and they
Speaker 4: took advantage of it and flouted it, and it's will
Speaker 4: never happen again.
Speaker 5: And then the war said, people.
Speaker 4: Say we will have better oversight over our rural manufacturing facilities.
Speaker 5: We've let you down and will never let you down
Speaker 5: like this again. The public.
Speaker 3: It's still the Dennis Reynold's rule, right, never apologize, just
Speaker 3: say we hear you, it's gross literally and we will
Speaker 3: uh we hear you, We're with you, We're doing this together.
Speaker 3: Also the UH, I know, I don't want to diatract
Speaker 3: because now it's not the time, but uh again, it
Speaker 3: reminds me of our our hot potato we were talking
Speaker 3: about with UH with who manufactured pagers and where did
Speaker 3: the batteries go?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Like, so to whom folds the responsibility? We have to
Speaker 3: find out who's responsible of allowing like to be clear
Speaker 3: and Matt, I think this is something we can all
Speaker 3: agree with. Nobody has been proven to have purposely created listeria.
Speaker 3: It was a crime of negligence, right, not domestic terrorism.
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. The problem is some of the details, the
Speaker 2: the bigger picture of the story do lead to those
Speaker 2: tendrils being connected that aren't necessarily connections. And just to
Speaker 2: think about this, we're going to jump to another CBS
Speaker 2: News article titled USDA cut back on listeria testing nationwide
Speaker 2: ahead of deadly boar's head outbreak. It basically states here
Speaker 2: that the Biden administration quietly made significant cuts to planned
Speaker 2: testing for specific germs across America's food supply, basically cutting
Speaker 2: back on the USDA's Food and Safety Inspection service so
Speaker 2: that there's much less of a chance that something like
Speaker 2: listeria or another contaminant is going to be detected in
Speaker 2: the food supply no matter where it's coming from, but
Speaker 2: especially in these meats that are being produced by Boreshead
Speaker 2: and other companies that are cold meats, right, meats that
Speaker 2: are supposed to be You open the package and you
Speaker 2: just pull it out and you put it in your mouth.
Speaker 2: Those specific meats have to be treated extremely carefully.
Speaker 4: Because they're not heated, which is another layer of protection
Speaker 4: which would make me kill any outstanding bacteria. Guys, it
Speaker 4: took me ages to be okay with lunch meat. I
Speaker 4: didn't like it for years. It weirded me out eating
Speaker 4: cold cuts. I think this has set me back. I
Speaker 4: think this has set me back.
Speaker 3: Well, you're not one of the ten dead people.
Speaker 5: That's fair bad, that's fair small blessings.
Speaker 2: You're not even one of the fifty nine people.
Speaker 5: Second, No, it's true, guys, this isn't about me.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think a lot of people will
Speaker 4: probably reevaluate their relationship with the cold meats.
Speaker 2: And that is why y'all Congress is coming in. They're
Speaker 2: stepping in and they're saying, hey, why aren't there more regulations,
Speaker 2: federal regulations that would have stopped this, and they're being
Speaker 2: really strong, very specific. Congressmen and the Senators and all
Speaker 2: those folks are coming through because you know, they don't
Speaker 2: want to look really good to get elected again.
Speaker 3: So aren't some of these the same folks who stridently
Speaker 3: voted against regulation?
Speaker 5: Say what now this interview is over.
Speaker 4: It's the guy in the hot dog suit all over again.
Speaker 4: More appropriate on this story than ever.
Speaker 2: You can read all about that stuff too. I would
Speaker 2: send people over to I've found a little write up
Speaker 2: on Food Safety Magazine. I don't know anything about Food
Speaker 2: Safety Magazine. I don't know if they're a reliable source
Speaker 2: or not. But they have links to specific letters that
Speaker 2: were written to the Department of Agriculture basically saying hey,
Speaker 2: why didn't you catch this? And it's got a lot
Speaker 2: of the information there about specific specific lawmakers who are
Speaker 2: attempting to seek change.
Speaker 4: If they lock down the name Food Safety Magazine, I
Speaker 4: hope they have at least some credibility.
Speaker 2: Ah, yes, but that is not Food Safety News, which
Speaker 2: is another site that it is sponsored by Marler Clark Incorporated. Ps.
Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. I didn't look into it.
Speaker 2: I've found the same information on there. All right, Well,
Speaker 2: that's it for this segment. We'll be right back after
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Speaker 4: And we have returned with I don't know, this isn't
Speaker 4: a bummer We're all going to die from deadly meats
Speaker 4: level story. This is maybe a bit of a palate cleanser.
Speaker 5: I think as an appropriate expression here.
Speaker 4: It's a science story that feels almost like science fiction,
Speaker 4: but it is partially science facts. Sciences have created a
Speaker 4: storage medium, basically an indestructible eternal flash drive, and in
Speaker 4: this they have embedded the human genome, which, ideally, if
Speaker 4: this thing survived billions of years into the future, could
Speaker 4: be discovered billions of years after the extinction potentially of
Speaker 4: the human race, could be discovered by you know, whoever's around,
Speaker 4: to potentially bring back the the human race, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of like in that bad alien movie, Alien Resurrection. Currently,
Speaker 4: we do not possess the technology to do this. As
Speaker 4: we know, scientists have sequenced the human genome, and that's
Speaker 4: what we're talking about here. But I'm going to read
Speaker 4: from a fabulous article by Margarita Bassi from Smithsonian Magazine.
Speaker 4: We love Smithsonian magazine, and she says, if humanity ever
Speaker 4: goes extinct, scientists now have a backup plan, a coin
Speaker 4: sized crystal storing the entire human genome future species, and yes,
Speaker 4: maybe aliens.
Speaker 5: Could use this record as an instructional manual to recreate
Speaker 5: humans some millions or even billions of years in the future.
Speaker 5: This has been done in England's University of Southampton, where
Speaker 5: scientists created what they're referring to as a five D
Speaker 5: memory crystal, which is created using the material fused quartz,
Speaker 5: which is a type of glass that in twenty fourteen
Speaker 5: won the Guinness World Record for most durable data storage material.
Speaker 5: In order to commit data to this medium, lasers have
Speaker 5: to be used to actually embed it, to write it
Speaker 5: into physically etch it into the material. In its largest size,
Speaker 5: this crystal can store up to three hundred and sixty
Speaker 5: terabytes of information that could potentially stick around for billions
Speaker 5: of years. It has the potential to withstand incredibly hostile conditions,
Speaker 5: including cosmic radiation, extreme temperatures well below freezing and you know,
Speaker 5: above incineratory levels, as well as the ability to withstand
Speaker 5: direct impacts of up to ten tons per square centimeter.
Speaker 4: You know, in optimal conditions, we'll call it room temperature.
Speaker 4: That's what Margarita calls it in the article. It can
Speaker 4: remain stable for guys three hundred quintillion years. That is
Speaker 4: occurring to Guinness, which is more than twenty one billion
Speaker 4: times the current measured age of the universe.
Speaker 2: This is wild. Questions, Yes, I don't know, Yes, how
Speaker 2: is it access or no? I I well, yeah, I
Speaker 2: have a lot of questions. But the first one is
Speaker 2: why can't you scratch it? It's a fully like unscratchable surface.
Speaker 3: Somehow with current technology it would be it would be
Speaker 3: real tip on purpose to move to scratch it, is
Speaker 3: the best way to say. It's kind of like the
Speaker 3: It's similar to uh, the idea that we saw a
Speaker 3: while back with encoding messages onto disc shot into deep space.
Speaker 3: This ideal, right, right, this idea preserving uh some thing
Speaker 3: is some part of human knowledge. And what I really
Speaker 3: love about you bringing up this story and knowl is
Speaker 3: we had some listeners right into us regarding this when
Speaker 3: the when the news went public, and this feels so
Speaker 3: optimstick ambitious. It's very hold my beer, very classic human
Speaker 3: as far as a question. One of the best questions
Speaker 3: a lot of our listeners are going to have is okay,
Speaker 3: thought experiment? Fast forward millions of years you know what,
Speaker 3: forget it, quintillions of years in the future.
Speaker 5: They don't have a dongle for that basic.
Speaker 3: Would a future civilization, given the choice, want to bring
Speaker 3: back the humans or what they say? Good to know,
Speaker 3: let's put it in our massively futuristic version of the backshelf.
Speaker 5: Let's shut it down the memory hole.
Speaker 3: Just better to have it and not need it than
Speaker 3: to need it and not have it.
Speaker 4: So you're asking the big questions. Man, I'm caught up
Speaker 4: on how are they even going to access something? It
Speaker 4: seems a little bit short sighted or you know, dare
Speaker 4: we say human centric to believe that there will still
Speaker 4: remain the technology to you know, decode this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I think you can figure it out.
Speaker 2: You can rummage through the not I was going to say,
Speaker 2: it's cross cruft. Yeah, get through the cruft on the
Speaker 2: ship and just be like, le's see what happens. Just
Speaker 2: make one and it's be like, oh look at that guy.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Michael, it's DNA. How many pairs can
Speaker 3: there be?
Speaker 5: Ten?
Speaker 2: You just make a couple of humans, let them hang
Speaker 2: out for a while, sure, like your pets.
Speaker 4: Yeah to your question about scratching it though, it's my
Speaker 4: understanding that it's like scratching.
Speaker 5: It is how you write to it.
Speaker 4: So and the only way to do that is with
Speaker 4: ultrafast lasers, is what the head of the project at
Speaker 4: the University of Southampton told Technology Networks, a guy named
Speaker 4: Peter Kazinski, who's the lead researcher. They etched it into
Speaker 4: these dis encoded data, like literally written by this laser,
Speaker 4: into tiny voids in the silica. They get as small
Speaker 4: as twenty nanometers, and he said the information is translated
Speaker 4: into five different dimensions of its nano structures their height, length, width, orientation,
Speaker 4: and position. So this is five D is what. It's
Speaker 4: a little buzzy, but I get it.
Speaker 5: That makes sense.
Speaker 4: They also this is me, and this is the part
Speaker 4: I think I understand this. When they say edged into
Speaker 4: the crystal's face, I think they still mean in data form.
Speaker 4: But there's part of me that wants a little clarification.
Speaker 4: Do they mean it's a picture of this because it
Speaker 4: says edged end of the crystal's face is a visual key,
Speaker 4: so I think it may well be a picture containing
Speaker 4: depictions of hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, and nitrogen atoms, as well
Speaker 4: as the double helix of the of DNA and its
Speaker 4: four nucleotide bases. And I believe it also contained a
Speaker 4: picture of a man and a woman and also instructions
Speaker 4: I guess how it fits into the cell. What it
Speaker 4: doesn't include, I guess is how to build a device
Speaker 4: that would decode it.
Speaker 5: But I guess they're just taking that as as read. So, yeah, guys,
Speaker 5: is that.
Speaker 4: What you're understanding is that this is a picture. This
Speaker 4: is like on there physically, like to see with eyes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then there's data in this large there's a chunk, right,
Speaker 2: that's the actual data set one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: But I'm saying the things the key it sounds to
Speaker 5: me are visual. They're like actually on there. Maybe I understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're you're you're right on it. So the
Speaker 3: material science, without getting two into the weeds, is fused quartz,
Speaker 3: so almost but not all the way pure silica. Think
Speaker 3: of it. For any any fans of clothe making, clothing
Speaker 3: making in the audience, this is kind of like seeing
Speaker 3: a blueprint for a dress, Like you see the warp
Speaker 3: and weft in the where the stitches are supposed to go.
Speaker 3: It does appear to be very durable to what we
Speaker 3: will call space conditions as interpreted by humans on Earth.
Speaker 3: The idea of human figures is sort of like a trademark,
Speaker 3: or dare I say, a brand mark? Where you can
Speaker 3: you can you know, imagine millions of years in the future,
Speaker 3: someone decides to reassemble the long lost breakout species, the humans,
Speaker 3: and then they're putting together this DNA and they say, oh, snap,
Speaker 3: what are these things supposed to look like? And then
Speaker 3: they can see the little picture and they can say, oh,
Speaker 3: fewer limbs.
Speaker 5: Got it?
Speaker 4: Ben?
Speaker 5: Your spot on man?
Speaker 4: And when you brought up the idea of like, why
Speaker 4: would they bring us back? It seems like if they did,
Speaker 4: it would be the equivalent of unleashing some sort of
Speaker 4: gin into the world.
Speaker 5: Like by the.
Speaker 4: Time humans are no longer around, I would hope that
Speaker 4: some of the damage that human beings have done on
Speaker 4: the planet or the planet itself, perhaps it's behind us,
Speaker 4: and then whatever intelligence exists maybe has a better handle
Speaker 4: on it.
Speaker 5: And to reintroduce humans could well be a devil's bargain.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: Well, let's go with this. I like where you're at,
Speaker 3: let's go with this idea, just to flip it real quick,
Speaker 3: what would human society do now if let's say, let's
Speaker 3: say humans managed to land on one of the habitable moons,
Speaker 3: or on Mars, or establish a permanent foothold on the moon,
Speaker 3: right on Earth's moon. And what would we do if
Speaker 3: we found a coin like this and it had DNA
Speaker 3: in some sort of blueprint as symbol? Would we bring
Speaker 3: it back?
Speaker 5: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: I just can't stop thinking about the movie Prometheus and
Speaker 4: just the idea of like stumbling onto a repository of
Speaker 4: something that isn't fully understood and unleashing it onto the
Speaker 4: planet and then it just like annihilating everyone concerned.
Speaker 2: Builds walmarts everywhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right instantly. It wouldn't like have to re evolve
Speaker 5: or anything.
Speaker 4: It would just be like from day one to Walmarts.
Speaker 3: They should have they should have a subscriber model, right,
Speaker 3: that's right, Yeah, just do this is call it signature.
Speaker 3: But here you can get human plus, which is the
Speaker 3: part that comes with the brain and the neural network.
Speaker 2: I just want to add one thing, just as I'm
Speaker 2: looking at that as Smithsonian Magazine article, I think we
Speaker 2: said it, but just want to make sure I clarify it.
Speaker 2: There are visual pictures included, as you were talking about,
Speaker 2: but that's not the data. That is a visual key.
Speaker 4: It's the key and now I mentioned that, Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: like the extra bits that it's essentially like in theory,
Speaker 4: a signal that there is this represents something bigger. But
Speaker 4: it doesn't even have instructions on how to decode it
Speaker 4: or like what is contained within it.
Speaker 5: It's weird. I can't remember.
Speaker 4: I think I was talking with my buddy and friend
Speaker 4: of the show Payton. There are some nuclear waste repositories
Speaker 4: that are using spiky weird that like it indicates to
Speaker 4: a future species or civilization danger. Do not approach without
Speaker 4: using words. I feel like they might have missed the
Speaker 4: boat on marking this in a similar way.
Speaker 3: That's a good point because we talked about this on
Speaker 3: a previous recent recording, how to preserve safety for nuclear
Speaker 3: waste right, so you can grow plants that react to a
Speaker 3: certain way to radiation right through phosphorestments. Perhaps you could
Speaker 3: have you know, big stone monoliths that have some sort
Speaker 3: of ikea level symbol of stay out. It's fascinating stuff.
Speaker 3: There's a great I want to say, a few years back,
Speaker 3: there's a great Stuff you Should Know episode on it.
Speaker 3: I remember listening to uh, but maybe we were just
Speaker 3: hanging out with those guys that the issue here too,
Speaker 3: just while we're spinning this tale, Noel, do we know
Speaker 3: why Professor Peter Kazanski hasn't made a ton of these? Like,
Speaker 3: why don't if you want to ensure the survival? I
Speaker 3: get that this is proof of concept. Why don't you
Speaker 3: make a ton of them and then just shoot them
Speaker 3: out really nearly into space.
Speaker 5: One hundred percent? I don't there's that's not really discussed
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 4: It seems like you said more than a little more
Speaker 4: than a proof of concept, almost more like a symbolic
Speaker 4: act in a way, because I think.
Speaker 5: So, I mean, maybe I'd love to hear what you
Speaker 5: guys think.
Speaker 4: And I know we're about a time, but there is
Speaker 4: this place that I believe we have discussed that we
Speaker 4: haven't we definitely should. I want to know what else
Speaker 4: the hell was in there called the Memory of Mankind
Speaker 4: Archive and housat Austria, And that is where this thing
Speaker 4: will dwell like a virtual, veritable cave of wonders in Aladdin,
Speaker 4: you know, like we're all the weird stuff for future
Speaker 4: civilization to stumble upon and let them know of our
Speaker 4: past greatness or flawedness or look.
Speaker 5: Salt mine, guys, it's in a salt mine.
Speaker 2: It's good for preservation, that's right.
Speaker 4: But yeah, we're not the only ones questioning this whole
Speaker 4: idea of like is this just kind of a clever gesture.
Speaker 4: There is a guy by the name of Thomas Hines
Speaker 4: Highness I think his name is, who is interviewed for
Speaker 4: this piece in Smithsonian actually for several pieces of reporting
Speaker 4: on this subject, who said something very similar to what
Speaker 4: we have been saying, like how will they know how
Speaker 4: to read the crystal? How will they know how to
Speaker 4: build a device to read the crystal? I can barely
Speaker 4: connect my ten year old iPod and listen to what
Speaker 4: I listened to back then. You nailed it as far
Speaker 4: as I'm concerned, Like technology is weird like that, and
Speaker 4: we are in a time where like there's planned obso
Speaker 4: lescence and all the dongles and different connections and peripherals.
Speaker 5: And all that stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't even know how you access There was nothing
Speaker 4: in any of the reporting that said, is this USB like,
Speaker 4: do you have to have some sort of specialized device.
Speaker 4: It's not very clear how you access the data that's
Speaker 4: etched into this thing. I would think it would have
Speaker 4: to be proprietary, like the way a record is read
Speaker 4: by a stylus, you know, as or I guess that's
Speaker 4: also the way a hard drive is read. It's just
Speaker 4: a sort of a more micro stylist. So maybe it
Speaker 4: is something like that. Is it circular? They say it's
Speaker 4: a coin, Like, I want to know more about how
Speaker 4: this thing is actually interpreted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Also, the concept of something being proprietary may well
Speaker 3: be alien and incomprehensible to a future civilization, right like, oh,
Speaker 3: we could learn the secrets of this long lost organic
Speaker 3: life for because right now the statistics are showing us
Speaker 3: whatever discovers that this would not be organic millions of
Speaker 3: years in the future. So they would say, like, I
Speaker 3: feel like it would be very classic human and therefore
Speaker 3: very short sighted for them to say, oh, we could
Speaker 3: bring them back, but that's proprietary. We don't want to
Speaker 3: pony up the ten bucks use now. We also don't
Speaker 3: want our secrets to be leaked out there. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: our secrets to you guys.
Speaker 4: We can't have them know how to how to create
Speaker 4: our proprietary coding machine.
Speaker 5: Kind of defeats the purpose. But but you're right, man.
Speaker 4: We've talked about this in terms of the gold disc
Speaker 4: that was floated out into space, like what are you
Speaker 4: going to do with that? You know, you don't have
Speaker 4: a photograph or maybe even the wherewithals to create a thing.
Speaker 4: Just as far as I'm concerned, that kind of technology
Speaker 4: is magic anyway. But a sufficiently intelligent beyond us, likely
Speaker 4: enough civilization or species maybe could figure it out reverse engineer.
Speaker 4: That's the positive outlook, right, or the optimistic approach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Hey, guys, what about this, just while we're
Speaker 3: while we're playing the game. What if every free object
Speaker 3: from space that hits planet Earth has always been some
Speaker 3: sort of encoded message from other long dead civilizations and
Speaker 3: we look at it and we just say, oh, that's
Speaker 3: a weird amount of nickel in this space rock. Let's
Speaker 3: put it in a museum, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: That might happen. They might say that it might hit
Speaker 3: some other civilization, this coin if it's launched out into
Speaker 3: deep space, out in the ink, and then someone says, oh,
Speaker 3: that's interesting, that looks a little different from the other rocks.
Speaker 3: Let's put it in our future alien museum.
Speaker 2: Dude. I know we've joked sometimes about the moon being
Speaker 2: a giant message to humanity from love it, you know,
Speaker 2: whatever seated our planet and then put the moon there
Speaker 2: to make sure the oceans did their thing so that
Speaker 2: life could you know, emerge. That'd be super cool if
Speaker 2: we find it. There's like some control panel inside the moon.
Speaker 3: I wanted to be such a bait and switch, Like
Speaker 3: do you guys remember the film A Christmas Story where
Speaker 3: the guy finally gets his decoder ring and it just says,
Speaker 3: drink more ovaltine. Of course, I want to, like we
Speaker 3: on the human civilization unlocks the mystery of the moon
Speaker 3: as a message, and all it says is buy more moons.
Speaker 4: One of my favorite pieces of pop culture that uses
Speaker 4: a show similar to this as the episode of the
Speaker 4: Seminal nineties children's show but Weird in that era of
Speaker 4: weird children's shows, The Adventures of Pet and p is
Speaker 4: an episode called Johnny Unitas in the Universe about messages
Speaker 4: being beamed to and from space and the length of
Speaker 4: time it takes for them to get where they're going
Speaker 4: and what they're interpreted as you wouldn't think the Adventures
Speaker 4: of Pete and Pete and Nickelodeon t Oven the nineties
Speaker 4: would have answered deep existential questions, but boy, it surely
Speaker 4: does highly recommend it. So with that, I think that's
Speaker 4: it for this one. Guys do want to do a
Speaker 4: little more digging. And all the pieces I read nothing
Speaker 4: about how you actually plug this thing up and get
Speaker 4: that five D model onto your device. So if anybody
Speaker 4: out there is aware, please do let us know. Conspiracy
Speaker 4: atiheartradio dot com. Let's take a quick break here, a
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Speaker 4: last piece.
Speaker 5: Well, actually have grab bag of strange.
Speaker 3: News, and we have returned folks. Often we do this
Speaker 3: cavalcade of columnia and catastrophe towards the beginning of the show.
Speaker 3: We're going to end with these. We're going to alternate
Speaker 3: between some good news, some bad news, some weird news.
Speaker 3: Fat Bear Week is hopefully back on track. As we
Speaker 3: all surely know, Fat Bear Week is a thing the
Speaker 3: National Park Service here in the US does where they
Speaker 3: measure how big bears are getting pre hibernation. Unfortunately, was
Speaker 3: delayed due to fatal bear combat, which is just the
Speaker 3: brutal way of nature. Is also speaking of federal services.
Speaker 3: A postal worker has been busted. We'll do some heist
Speaker 3: real quick for stealing over one point five million dollars
Speaker 3: US worth of checks from various letters over a long
Speaker 3: period of time. Do you guys ever get checks in
Speaker 3: the mail? Is it legal for me to ask.
Speaker 5: You mailbox money as they call it? Sure? You know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 4: You know people who get like their Spotify twenty five
Speaker 4: cents that comes in the mail usually, or like residuals
Speaker 4: for TV, and they call it mailbox money. No, I
Speaker 4: haven't received a check in the mail in many, many,
Speaker 4: many years.
Speaker 3: It used to be a birthday thing, not anymore birthday
Speaker 3: thing more.
Speaker 2: And I get unless someone is taking my checks exactly.
Speaker 3: That's where we're going. We're going to Anthony verdu the
Speaker 3: second young man twenty nine years old, charged with three
Speaker 3: counts of mail theft, one count of wire fraud, worked
Speaker 3: in Saint Louis, Missouri. Had access to all the first
Speaker 3: class mail process through the facility, and he just kept
Speaker 3: skimming the checks. He just kept taking them. You could
Speaker 3: always see, you know, a certain amount of loss or
Speaker 3: what do they call it? Shrinkage baked into operations like
Speaker 3: this where someone says, oh, the check didn't get to you,
Speaker 3: we will go ahead and make it right because, as
Speaker 3: we know, if you are the company side of an
Speaker 3: equation where you have to provide compensation, you want those
Speaker 3: free lanswers to get paid immediately. So if a check
Speaker 3: is lost, then just hurry up replace it, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, let accounting sweep up the remnants. My
Speaker 3: first question with this was, you know, as someone who
Speaker 3: gets checks through various addresses for various reasons like how
Speaker 3: easy is it to quote unquote steal a check, how
Speaker 3: do you clean it? And we found the answer. It's
Speaker 3: money laundering. You can do something as get this as
Speaker 3: low tech as using an erase, you know, like the
Speaker 3: kind of erasers that work on pen You just erase
Speaker 3: you know, the specifics that you need gone, and then
Speaker 3: you put it through a mobile deposit account. So for
Speaker 3: a lot of people, especially here in the West, who
Speaker 3: have you know, a banking app of some sort, it
Speaker 3: will typically let you deposit a check by taking a
Speaker 3: photograph of the front and back for the obverse of
Speaker 3: that check, right, so you never have to physically go
Speaker 3: to the place This makes it more difficult to figure out. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, when someone wiped out the original name of
Speaker 3: the recipient and wrote in Johnny Blue Jean's America or whatever.
Speaker 2: That's so crazy because the money is coming from somewhere,
Speaker 2: and that money can be tracked, and where did it
Speaker 2: come from, Where did it go? Where did it come from?
Speaker 5: Where did it go?
Speaker 2: Chase Bank knows.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Cotton, I Chase, I love it. It's it's
Speaker 3: also completely pot possible. Here's the deal. If you're worried
Speaker 3: about scrutiny, and banks are getting better at this in
Speaker 3: the West, it's also completely possible to figure out the
Speaker 3: name of the payee on the check and then create
Speaker 3: your own business accounts that is not quite the name,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's not quite Dylan Tennessee pal.
Speaker 3: It's something like Dylan Tennessee doll or whatever. And then
Speaker 3: that will that will work. This will be deposited into
Speaker 3: your bank account's name, get the money out, clear out
Speaker 3: that account, skipped out. It's stunding that this is possible
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, in a surveillance state of all things.
Speaker 5: Is this a modern version of what they used to
Speaker 5: call kiting? Checks.
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, there's a there's a great show on Netflix
Speaker 4: called Ripley that's about like a talented mister Ripley. For
Speaker 4: that character played by Oh Gosh, I forget his name,
Speaker 4: he's wonderfully played Moriarty in the Showloe series with Benett Cumberbatch.
Speaker 5: He's a check fraudster. At a certain point.
Speaker 4: He does some very similar things in a much more
Speaker 4: analog fashion to what you're describing.
Speaker 5: Then mm hmmm.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is this kind of crime may be
Speaker 3: a dying art because it does rely on physical artifacts.
Speaker 3: We also want to be very very clear, we're huge
Speaker 3: supporters of our United States Postal Service. I don't know
Speaker 3: how everybody else feels with their neighborhood postal worker, but
Speaker 3: my crew is awesome. Those guys are the best. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys. Do you guys have are
Speaker 3: you on like a named name or chat sort of
Speaker 3: level with your postal workers?
Speaker 4: You got me wanting to go that route because I
Speaker 4: should I say hi and I wave, but have not,
Speaker 4: you know, taken it further than that.
Speaker 5: Ben, I'm gonna take your inspiration and do that.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm not going to tell you about her
Speaker 2: name or any of it's between you information.
Speaker 3: Right right. I love it. So you have to be
Speaker 3: careful with giving gifts because it could count as bribery. However,
Speaker 3: the one thing he can't give them for sure, for
Speaker 3: sure is a hybrid clone sheep that is illegal to
Speaker 3: give to a postal office worker. We know this because
Speaker 3: on the heels of our original conversation about this in
Speaker 3: a Strange News program in March of this year, the
Speaker 3: guy out in Montana who was breeding illegal giant sheep
Speaker 3: hybrid clones just got convicted six months in prison. No
Speaker 3: sheep for you. Do you guys remember this story at all?
Speaker 3: The original?
Speaker 5: Sure?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it rings a bell, but I'm going to need
Speaker 2: to walk back through with you.
Speaker 3: Arthur Shoebarth Jack to his friends, was selling these things
Speaker 3: that were often called Frankin sheep clones, and he was
Speaker 3: doing this with a weird kind of resurrection men arrangement
Speaker 3: going back to twenty thirteen where he got body parts
Speaker 3: of a dead sheep, the ovis aman Poli or Marco
Speaker 3: Polo our Dolli sheep. He got it from people in Kyrghyzstan,
Speaker 3: and then he started trying to clone these the same
Speaker 3: way that a few years back, people cloned Dolly, remember
Speaker 3: Dolly the clone sheep. He was cloning these and the
Speaker 3: business of cloning right now is pretty imperfect. It's just
Speaker 3: like that banger Michael Keaton piece of cinema multiplicity. You
Speaker 3: make a clone of a clone or a copy of
Speaker 3: a copy, and they kind of things get worse and worse.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So apparently this guy violated the law because not
Speaker 3: because he was making money, but because, according to the
Speaker 3: Department of Justice, he was threatening Montana's native wildlife species.
Speaker 4: Like this is an invasive and it would beat them
Speaker 4: up because it's so big and bad.
Speaker 3: It's from Kyrgyzstan. I guess I. You know, you can
Speaker 3: read more about this all over the place, in you know,
Speaker 3: in our previous Strange News program, also in the recent
Speaker 3: news find it in Popular Science. Shout out to Andrew Paul,
Speaker 3: who wrote an article that posted yesterday as we record
Speaker 3: here on October second. That's the thing. I don't know,
Speaker 3: should it be illegal to clone animals? I feel like
Speaker 3: it should not.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it could be considered animal cruelty if
Speaker 4: they end up in that kill me, kill me situation,
Speaker 4: because it's a botched clone job.
Speaker 2: You know, well, theoretically he was like sending out to
Speaker 2: get these cloned embryos made for him, right, Yes.
Speaker 4: So.
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a tough one for me because
Speaker 2: if you can make just some cloned embryos, theoretically, if
Speaker 2: you could make enough cloned embryos of maybe the same
Speaker 2: batch or something. I don't know how all of that works,
Speaker 2: but you wouldn't have that problem of like making clones
Speaker 2: of clones of clones of clones.
Speaker 3: If you had a fresh one.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the art of it. And this is where
Speaker 3: we go back, you know, not to set jurisprudence for
Speaker 3: millions or quintillions of years in the future, but what
Speaker 3: if future civilizations can't clone humans back into existence, you know,
Speaker 3: because of the legal and ethical constraints.
Speaker 4: With the memory crystal. I'm sorry I never said what
Speaker 4: it was called. It's called the memory crystal, y, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well we remembered it, Yeah.
Speaker 5: We sure did, and it's a very appropriate companion story.
Speaker 3: Got a couple more. Speaking of companion stories, Do you
Speaker 3: guys remember cannabis?
Speaker 5: Do I remember it?
Speaker 2: Honestly, not really? I know the smell though, right, right?
Speaker 3: Is that a skunk that's a shout out to a
Speaker 3: weird heist we did many years ago. But but I
Speaker 3: was interested to find this. This is lighthearted news, apparently, and
Speaker 3: I'm not super sure on the science. I'd love to
Speaker 3: hear everybody's opinion. Apparently, a new study is found that
Speaker 3: consumption of cannabis does genuinely enhance a human individual's enjoyment
Speaker 3: of music. No, and the best thing about this headline
Speaker 3: is quote confirming what every Stoner already knows.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 4: I will neither confirm nor deny whether or I already
Speaker 4: knew that, but seems pretty logical.
Speaker 3: Apparently, and this comes to us from the Toronto Metropolitan University.
Speaker 3: They look, I'm gonna be honest, this is what we
Speaker 3: will call anecdotal in the world of science, so it's
Speaker 3: much more of like a social science study. They recruited
Speaker 3: people at Toronto met and they did so. But here
Speaker 3: here's where the methodology gets a little touch. They got
Speaker 3: people to participate in the study by getting students from
Speaker 3: the university. Classic that's always good, But they also put
Speaker 3: up flyers at a little less than forty different headshops
Speaker 3: in the Toronto Metro area and they said, hey, complete
Speaker 3: this questionnaire and we'll interview you also. But I do
Speaker 3: feel like this has even though it's anecdotal, I feel
Speaker 3: like it already confirms something that a lot of our
Speaker 3: friends and acquaintances who engage with cannabis have already told us,
Speaker 3: right like that baseline doesn't hit until the edible does.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, man, I'm certainly not one that
Speaker 4: is a proponent of saying that you need extracurriculars in
Speaker 4: order to enjoy a fine piece of arts or music.
Speaker 4: You know, I think history has shown that there certainly
Speaker 4: our ways.
Speaker 5: Of enhancing these things.
Speaker 2: Can I read a quote from the Marijuana.
Speaker 3: Moment Yeah on a moment dot net, published October first
Speaker 3: by Ben Atlind go Ben's here's.
Speaker 2: One of the people who who responded to this quote.
Speaker 2: When I'm not high, I just don't pay enough attention
Speaker 2: to the music. It's like background noise compared to when
Speaker 2: I'm high. It's like the only thing I'm focused on.
Speaker 5: Give Stoner's a bad name.
Speaker 3: They described increased awareness and sensitivity of sounds and volumes
Speaker 3: even when the set volume of the music remained unchanged.
Speaker 3: So this it's weird. I think it's more fun than
Speaker 3: anything else because Luckily, the Western world and hopefully global
Speaker 3: civilization overall, is getting past their vilification of cannabis phase.
Speaker 3: And to be completely clear, without compromising anybody, I'm not
Speaker 3: cannabis enthusiast. I do ethically and morally support it, and
Speaker 3: I think that you can make a very strong financial
Speaker 3: argument for decriminalizing or completely legalizing these substances. They kill
Speaker 3: far fewer people than alcohol year over year. There's that.
Speaker 5: I do think.
Speaker 4: I love studies, though, that confirm things that have long
Speaker 4: been kind of obvious to everybody.
Speaker 3: It's just fun, yeah, And that's part of science, and
Speaker 3: it can sound silly when it's reported in mass media,
Speaker 3: where you'll see something like stunning news study confirms Earth
Speaker 3: is indeed the third planet from what we call the sudden.
Speaker 4: Cookies are tasty, right right. I want to see the
Speaker 4: study about the munchies next. That'll be a fun one.
Speaker 2: Every time we talk about something like this, now, guys,
Speaker 2: I just think about that brief, super flawed thing we
Speaker 2: read about, what was it, cannabis psychosis, Cannabis in psychosis,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's about it.
Speaker 3: That's like saying there's a link between dungeons and dragons
Speaker 3: and heavy metal and murder. Yeah, but that's not the
Speaker 3: that portraying these as the prime mover is I would say,
Speaker 3: intellectually am Worley fraudulent and irresponsible.
Speaker 4: But I just did want to add that we did
Speaker 4: have some experts or some listeners right in about the
Speaker 4: marijuana do psychosist thing and saying that a person sufficiently
Speaker 4: on the brink of schizophrenia or undiagnosed, you know, psychiatric
Speaker 4: disorders smoking marijuana for the first time, a very strong
Speaker 4: dose or something could be triggered into a psychotic episode.
Speaker 3: So just yeah, yes, And to give the larger frame there,
Speaker 3: you could say the same about many other psychoactive substances, right, twinkies.
Speaker 3: So again, this meritajuana madness stuff comes from very old racism,
Speaker 3: and hopefully the money will outweigh the racism at some point.
Speaker 5: But I don't know.
Speaker 3: When I think when I think of cannabis, I think
Speaker 3: of usually the munchies, which I know is apparently anecdotal.
Speaker 3: But there's nothing like a good song and a good
Speaker 3: snack if you're indulging, and pretty soon, depending on how
Speaker 3: things work out, folks, you tell us, pretty soon it
Speaker 3: may be difficult to get some of your favorite snacks
Speaker 3: because there is a dock workers strike.
Speaker 5: A great transition.
Speaker 3: Ben, well, let's mat I did it twice, fair enough.
Speaker 4: I was going to not give that people behind the curtain,
Speaker 4: but you're out as yourself, so I can't transparencies.
Speaker 3: And so this dock workers strike, we heard about it.
Speaker 3: It's making the rounds on social media, and the idea
Speaker 3: is that it can push up prices and cause shortages
Speaker 3: depending upon how long it lasts.
Speaker 5: So is there long shortman?
Speaker 3: Right? Yes?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: All one word?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: And word isn't a big demand of theirs. The similar
Speaker 4: demands that we've seen in things like the writer's strike
Speaker 4: is automation minimization.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the writers' guilds have a far lower likelihood
Speaker 3: of the involvement of organized crime.
Speaker 5: Oh that's not it.
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that this is one hundred percent of
Speaker 3: corruption situation, but it does remind me of folks behind
Speaker 3: the scenes round about. I would say late July early August,
Speaker 3: we start speculating on what will be the October surprise
Speaker 3: of the United States election year.
Speaker 5: It hasn't happened yet. I mean, I know, we're only
Speaker 5: a couple of days in. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it's something like a political opponent pressuring their
Speaker 3: colleagues or conspirators to hold hostages. Sometimes it's futzing with
Speaker 3: supply chains. Sometimes it's an attack that could have happened
Speaker 3: in September that is held until October, all orbiting around
Speaker 3: the idea of how this may or may not affect
Speaker 3: the election of the President of the United States every
Speaker 3: four years in November. It's a real thing. Some of
Speaker 3: these conspiracies are real. I don't know if this is
Speaker 3: our October surprise, no all. To your point, I don't
Speaker 3: know if there's a multiple October surprise situation. And I
Speaker 3: also don't know, just like the chlorine gas here in Atlanta,
Speaker 3: I don't know how much of this with the doc
Speaker 3: workers strike is ginned up, you know, to make people
Speaker 3: panic because we are of fear ruled news cycle.
Speaker 4: At the moment, I was going to ask you, Ben,
Speaker 4: the idea of organized crime and this. Are you saying
Speaker 4: that organized crime is has their hands on the puppet
Speaker 4: strings of a strike like this or this is a
Speaker 4: reaction to organized crime.
Speaker 5: I just want to clarify I see.
Speaker 3: I will say one, unions are a good thing. Two,
Speaker 3: some unions have been historically compromised by organized crime.
Speaker 5: Teamsters for example.
Speaker 3: Right, well, well, we're not saying a word about the
Speaker 3: tea guys. We're cool.
Speaker 5: We're cool to worry about ya. I saw it in
Speaker 5: a movie called The Irishman. I heard about it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I recently watched a show called Kill
Speaker 3: the Irishman, or a film called Kill the Irishman, which
Speaker 3: was very much about this.
Speaker 4: But Kill the Irishman is that different from the Irishman? Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's different. It's weird about the same thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they just had to add some different
Speaker 3: words to get the titles happening here. Okay, but we
Speaker 3: do want to say that when you hear this strange
Speaker 3: news program on October seventh, the strike may well be over.
Speaker 3: The concern is that should the strike continue past a
Speaker 3: certain amount of time, you could be in a situation
Speaker 3: where you cannot buy the things you need or those
Speaker 3: things are insanely overpriced. So it is always good to
Speaker 3: plan ahead just in case. It's best to be prepared.
Speaker 4: Things are already kind of insanely overpriced. No kidding up,
Speaker 4: twenty one station and all of that of snacks. This
Speaker 4: is does not bow dwell for our twinkies.
Speaker 5: Sorry. The weed story got me feeling snaky.
Speaker 3: Yeah, perhaps concerns like this, which we can all identify with,
Speaker 3: I imagine, are what prompted what of our last stories.
Speaker 3: A woman, perhaps in preparation for these different issues of
Speaker 3: our time, attempted to smuggle seven hundred pounds of blogey Jesus. Uh.
Speaker 3: It was forty rolls of Mexican pork boloney. It is
Speaker 3: illegal in the United States, kind of like how raw
Speaker 3: milk is illegal.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And when this person got caught, they had a lot
Speaker 3: of suitcases that appeared, according to Customs and Border Protection
Speaker 3: to be quote heavier than normal. First off, I think
Speaker 3: that's unfair. A lot of people have heavy suitcases.
Speaker 5: True, it's true, what is normal in this situation?
Speaker 4: Anyway, as long as you pay the cost, you know,
Speaker 4: for over oversized baggage, you should be good to go.
Speaker 4: I want to hear what led them to doing a
Speaker 4: search that just seems like a very arbitrary metric.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm playing a little bit of a clickbait game.
Speaker 5: Maybe there was a smell. There was a smell.
Speaker 3: Excuse me, miss, don't take this the wrong way.
Speaker 5: You like, yeah, is just the same deal as like
Speaker 5: what I was what I was talking about.
Speaker 4: I was in Spain and like the butcher, when I
Speaker 4: went to buy the Jamaan said, don't be taking that
Speaker 4: on the plane.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's like certain processes are different in other countries,
Speaker 4: therefore they are not allowed to be brought into.
Speaker 3: This Yeah, and here in the US or the fifty
Speaker 3: US states, the most persnickety about that would be Hawaii
Speaker 3: due to their unique apology. But this lady, just to
Speaker 3: establish why this is kind of clickbait, is yes, she
Speaker 3: was trying to move seven hundred and forty eight pounds
Speaker 3: of bolooney into the US. You get in situations, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Let's not call this lady a
Speaker 3: villain for trying to make a living off of boloney.
Speaker 5: But she's the hero we deserve.
Speaker 3: Maybe she is, maybe she's getting in front of maybe
Speaker 3: she's a worse head hop uh. But unfortunately, she also
Speaker 3: was carrying two hundred and eighty boxes prescription medicine. And
Speaker 3: it's legal to carry that across the border if you
Speaker 3: declare it, which this person did not. And it included
Speaker 3: something that we have mentioned I think briefly in previous recordings, tramadoll.
Speaker 3: What is tramadol again, Why he.
Speaker 5: Looking at me?
Speaker 3: No, I'm looking at that.
Speaker 5: He's joking. He's not looking at anybody, folks.
Speaker 4: There's no way to tell who he's looking at in
Speaker 4: this Brady Buncher, right, I was gonna make a dumb joke. Well,
Speaker 4: maybe the bologney, maybe it was dog medication. In the
Speaker 4: bologney was to wrap the pill up to feed to
Speaker 4: the dogs. They can take their their mets. No trade
Speaker 4: lawyer at large. Tramma doll is a is a heavy sedative.
Speaker 4: To my understanding, I believe that's what they call an antipsychotic.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, well it appears that this person did get caught.
Speaker 3: This is our reminder, folks, no matter where you find yourself,
Speaker 3: when you are going across an international border, just go
Speaker 3: ahead and play by the rules of the place you
Speaker 3: are going to. It does not matter what is legal
Speaker 3: in your origin country or where you're coming from. There's
Speaker 3: a reason that people get arrested for, you know, drug
Speaker 3: possession based on urine test things like that.
Speaker 5: I was dead wrong. By the way, tramadall is used
Speaker 5: to relieve pain and.
Speaker 3: It is it's like a muscle relaxer.
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, I thought it was something. It's It's definitely
Speaker 4: not like an opioid. It's something different, but it is
Speaker 4: considered a class for controlled substance because of its potential
Speaker 4: for misuse and addiction. Ultram is the brand name, which
Speaker 4: sounds like a Ultram.
Speaker 5: The Ultram sounds like a Michael Bay robot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, or it sounds like the the M track you
Speaker 3: have to pay extra for. Anyway, this is our show. Sorry,
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