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Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is

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Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or

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Speaker 1: learn this stuff they don't want you to know. A

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt,

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Speaker 2: my name is Noel.

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Speaker 3: They call me Ben, and we are joined with our

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Speaker 3: super producer, Dylan the Tennessee pal Fagan. Most importantly, you

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Speaker 3: are here. That makes this the stuff they don't want

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Speaker 3: you to know. We are coming to you fresh baked,

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Speaker 3: hot and ready here on a lovely autumnal evening hot

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Speaker 3: to Atlanta. Yeah yes, similar to Little Caesar's Pizza. Yeah

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Speaker 3: uh well, now.

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Speaker 4: This is more of a chapel Roone reference is taking

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Speaker 4: the world by storm and getting a parodied on SNL

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Speaker 3: The Thai hippo, which apparently I have to go see. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: there is something we wanted to do, folks. This is

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Speaker 3: our weekly strange news program, and we have such wonders

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Speaker 3: to show you memory crystal that may preserve the human genome,

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Speaker 3: some updates on your favorite deli meets. We've also got

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Speaker 3: oh gosh, we've got so many other things. There's a

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Speaker 3: lady smuggling maloney anyway, before.

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Speaker 5: Were yeah, before we reached today, before.

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Speaker 3: We do any of that, we wanted to share with

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Speaker 3: you because you, conspiracy realists are the most important part

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Speaker 3: of our show. We wanted to share with you the

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Speaker 3: news about our longtime friends, I would say family at

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Speaker 3: this point. Paul Mission controlled DECANDT and Alexis code named

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Speaker 3: Doc Holliday Jackson. These are longtime producers. They are friends

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Speaker 3: of ours. We still hang out. They have moved on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not like from this mortal coil, but like you know,

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Speaker 4: from the show, and we wish them all the best.

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Speaker 4: And to your point, Ben, we love them both dearly

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Speaker 4: and and we'll continue on as Pal's I r L.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna miss them like crazy. They've been an

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Speaker 2: integral part of the show since gosh, I don't even

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Speaker 2: know how many years has been now. Yeah, I got

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Speaker 2: to catch up with Alexis a little bit. By the way.

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Speaker 2: She's currently on a train ride all across like the

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Speaker 2: northern United States, seeing beautiful places and feeling good.

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Speaker 5: So does not surprise me.

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Speaker 3: And I have to water her plants that we're really

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Speaker 3: No story ever ends, folks, and we thank you again

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Speaker 3: for joining us tonight. This is our cold open. Uh,

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Speaker 3: we have to learn a lot about deli meat really quickly.

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Speaker 2: And we've returned and we're going to New York City

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Speaker 2: to talk about the mayor, the current mayor, the as

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Speaker 2: of right now, Mayor Eric Adams, who is facing a

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Speaker 2: lot of charges. Guys, some pretty serious charges.

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Speaker 3: What a mayor of New York No way in a.

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Speaker 4: Little cozy with some foreign operatives, maybe perhaps some veiled

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Speaker 2: Say something like that. Mayor Eric Adams is now facing

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Speaker 2: five counts of criminal offenses, including bribery, wirefraud, soliciting legal

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Speaker 2: foreign campaign donations. There's an and in there that I missed,

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Speaker 5: It's not great.

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Speaker 2: There's an indictment right now that alleges he sought and

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Speaker 2: accepted illegal campaign funds over one hundred thousand dollars in

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Speaker 2: luxury travel benefits from Turkish businessmen and an official seeking

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Speaker 2: when you gain political influence like that. Sure, and we're

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Speaker 2: really just mentioning this because it's a big deal. You

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, Ben just parodied this whole situation. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of a I don't know it's being joked about,

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Speaker 5: Lot of faith in our government officials.

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Speaker 3: Or the daughterer kabab in this case.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just like that, Matt, did you hear about did

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Speaker 2: There's all kinds of other allegations that are going to

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Speaker 5: Isn't he using the old witch hunt defense? Yes?

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Speaker 2: alleged collusion of Feds and mainstream media, asks judge for consequences.

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Speaker 3: Sounds familiar, and he means consequences for the Feds, yes,

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Speaker 3: for the ambiguous, nebulous mainstream media whatever that means. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: This is a financial crime, right, and financial crime is

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Speaker 5: It's such a crime against his constituents.

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Speaker 4: Though it's awful he did a talk or talk is

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Speaker 5: You're a disgrace to black men? You know?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just he's not it's not going over

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Speaker 3: you guys saw this. Former Governor Andrew Cuomo came in

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Speaker 5: But didn't already have a shot. And he sucked too.

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Speaker 2: It's a real Gotham City stuff, guys. Because this investigation

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Speaker 5: Oh did you guys hear that.

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Speaker 4: One thing that exposed this is something probably for an

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Speaker 4: She joked about it at a recent concert.

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Speaker 2: Like, what the hell, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Want to know more about the red string of it all,

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Speaker 2: But speaking of how the sausage is made, guys, we're

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Speaker 2: jumping back to a story that Ben brought to us.

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Speaker 2: that there was an outbreak at a boreshead facility in

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Speaker 2: the liverwurst and it caused a bunch of injuries. Is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Unfortunately we did not have the time to get

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Speaker 3: fellow listeners, that the listeria in boar's head is a

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Speaker 3: very real thing. Again, we often talk about infrastructure compromise,

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Speaker 5: Boom, is this something new? Because I thought we talked

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Speaker 4: It had something that your favorite turkey, the Salsilito turkey,

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Speaker 2: And it's now moved up to seven million pounds of

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Speaker 3: Shout out to all my fellow cheap skates. Shout out

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Speaker 3: to everybody who pulled that Larry David at the deli

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, Well, but guys, I mean, Boreshead is everywhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: every bodega in New York City. I mean they've got

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Speaker 3: I mean you can ask them to use the less

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Speaker 3: expensive Oh my god, I'm going to Larry David. You

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Speaker 2: It's too much bad. But yes, this is very very serious.

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Speaker 2: Fifty nine people in nineteen states were sicken from this

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Speaker 2: listeria that was present in this specific meat. A tenth

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Speaker 2: NBC San Diego reported on it. At least you can

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Speaker 2: read that tenth death reported in Borishead Deli meat listeria outbreak.

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Speaker 2: It's a huge deal. The illnesses were all reported between

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Speaker 2: this one. Basically inspectors went in and they found horrifying stuff,

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Speaker 2: you guys. The inspector reports revealed mold insects, dripping water,

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Speaker 5: We've let you down and will never let you down

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. The problem is some of the details, the

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Speaker 4: Because they're not heated, which is another layer of protection

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Speaker 3: Well, you're not one of the ten dead people.

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Speaker 2: And that is why y'all Congress is coming in. They're

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Speaker 3: So aren't some of these the same folks who stridently

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Speaker 4: It's the guy in the hot dog suit all over again.

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Speaker 4: If they lock down the name Food Safety Magazine, I

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Speaker 2: Ah, yes, but that is not Food Safety News, which

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Speaker 4: And we have returned with I don't know, this isn't

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Speaker 4: It's a science story that feels almost like science fiction,

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Speaker 4: We love Smithsonian magazine, and she says, if humanity ever

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Speaker 3: Somehow with current technology it would be it would be

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Speaker 3: thought experiment? Fast forward millions of years you know what,

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Speaker 5: They don't have a dongle for that basic.

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Speaker 3: Would a future civilization, given the choice, want to bring

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Speaker 3: let's put it in our massively futuristic version of the backshelf.

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Speaker 5: Let's shut it down the memory hole.

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Speaker 3: Just better to have it and not need it than

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Speaker 4: So you're asking the big questions. Man, I'm caught up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I think you can figure it out.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, Michael, it's DNA. How many pairs can

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Speaker 5: It is how you write to it.

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Speaker 4: picture of a man and a woman and also instructions

436
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: I guess how it fits into the cell. What it

437
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 4: doesn't include, I guess is how to build a device

438
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 4: that would decode it.

439
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 5: But I guess they're just taking that as as read. So, yeah, guys,

440
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 5: is that.

441
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 4: What you're understanding is that this is a picture. This

442
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 4: is like on there physically, like to see with eyes.

443
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then there's data in this large there's a chunk, right,

444
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 2: that's the actual data set one hundred percent.

445
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 5: But I'm saying the things the key it sounds to

446
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 5: me are visual. They're like actually on there. Maybe I understand.

447
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, you're you're you're right on it. So the

448
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: material science, without getting two into the weeds, is fused quartz,

449
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 3: so almost but not all the way pure silica. Think

450
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: of it. For any any fans of clothe making, clothing

451
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: making in the audience, this is kind of like seeing

452
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: a blueprint for a dress, Like you see the warp

453
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 3: and weft in the where the stitches are supposed to go.

454
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 3: It does appear to be very durable to what we

455
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 3: will call space conditions as interpreted by humans on Earth.

456
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: The idea of human figures is sort of like a trademark,

457
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: or dare I say, a brand mark? Where you can

458
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 3: you can you know, imagine millions of years in the future,

459
00:25:55,240 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: someone decides to reassemble the long lost breakout species, the humans,

460
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 3: and then they're putting together this DNA and they say, oh, snap,

461
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 3: what are these things supposed to look like? And then

462
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 3: they can see the little picture and they can say, oh,

463
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: fewer limbs.

464
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Speaker 5: Got it?

465
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 4: Ben?

466
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 5: Your spot on man?

467
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 4: And when you brought up the idea of like, why

468
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 4: would they bring us back? It seems like if they did,

469
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 4: it would be the equivalent of unleashing some sort of

470
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 4: gin into the world.

471
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 5: Like by the.

472
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: Time humans are no longer around, I would hope that

473
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 4: some of the damage that human beings have done on

474
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 4: the planet or the planet itself, perhaps it's behind us,

475
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 4: and then whatever intelligence exists maybe has a better handle

476
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 4: on it.

477
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 5: And to reintroduce humans could well be a devil's bargain.

478
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

479
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 3: Well, let's go with this. I like where you're at,

480
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 3: let's go with this idea, just to flip it real quick,

481
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: what would human society do now if let's say, let's

482
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: say humans managed to land on one of the habitable moons,

483
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: or on Mars, or establish a permanent foothold on the moon,

484
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: right on Earth's moon. And what would we do if

485
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 3: we found a coin like this and it had DNA

486
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: in some sort of blueprint as symbol? Would we bring

487
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 3: it back?

488
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 5: I don't know why.

489
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 4: I just can't stop thinking about the movie Prometheus and

490
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 4: just the idea of like stumbling onto a repository of

491
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 4: something that isn't fully understood and unleashing it onto the

492
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 4: planet and then it just like annihilating everyone concerned.

493
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: Builds walmarts everywhere.

494
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, right instantly. It wouldn't like have to re evolve

495
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 5: or anything.

496
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 4: It would just be like from day one to Walmarts.

497
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 3: They should have they should have a subscriber model, right,

498
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 3: that's right, Yeah, just do this is call it signature.

499
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: But here you can get human plus, which is the

500
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: part that comes with the brain and the neural network.

501
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 2: I just want to add one thing, just as I'm

502
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 2: looking at that as Smithsonian Magazine article, I think we

503
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: said it, but just want to make sure I clarify it.

504
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 2: There are visual pictures included, as you were talking about,

505
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 2: but that's not the data. That is a visual key.

506
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 4: It's the key and now I mentioned that, Yeah, that's

507
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 4: like the extra bits that it's essentially like in theory,

508
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: a signal that there is this represents something bigger. But

509
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 4: it doesn't even have instructions on how to decode it

510
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 4: or like what is contained within it.

511
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 5: It's weird. I can't remember.

512
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 4: I think I was talking with my buddy and friend

513
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 4: of the show Payton. There are some nuclear waste repositories

514
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 4: that are using spiky weird that like it indicates to

515
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: a future species or civilization danger. Do not approach without

516
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: using words. I feel like they might have missed the

517
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 4: boat on marking this in a similar way.

518
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: That's a good point because we talked about this on

519
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 3: a previous recent recording, how to preserve safety for nuclear

520
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: waste right, so you can grow plants that react to a

521
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: certain way to radiation right through phosphorestments. Perhaps you could

522
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: have you know, big stone monoliths that have some sort

523
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: of ikea level symbol of stay out. It's fascinating stuff.

524
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 3: There's a great I want to say, a few years back,

525
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 3: there's a great Stuff you Should Know episode on it.

526
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: I remember listening to uh, but maybe we were just

527
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: hanging out with those guys that the issue here too,

528
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 3: just while we're spinning this tale, Noel, do we know

529
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: why Professor Peter Kazanski hasn't made a ton of these? Like,

530
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 3: why don't if you want to ensure the survival? I

531
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: get that this is proof of concept. Why don't you

532
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: make a ton of them and then just shoot them

533
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: out really nearly into space.

534
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 5: One hundred percent? I don't there's that's not really discussed

535
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 5: it is.

536
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: It seems like you said more than a little more

537
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: than a proof of concept, almost more like a symbolic

538
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: act in a way, because I think.

539
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 5: So, I mean, maybe I'd love to hear what you

540
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 5: guys think.

541
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 4: And I know we're about a time, but there is

542
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 4: this place that I believe we have discussed that we

543
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 4: haven't we definitely should. I want to know what else

544
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 4: the hell was in there called the Memory of Mankind

545
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 4: Archive and housat Austria, And that is where this thing

546
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 4: will dwell like a virtual, veritable cave of wonders in Aladdin,

547
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: you know, like we're all the weird stuff for future

548
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 4: civilization to stumble upon and let them know of our

549
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: past greatness or flawedness or look.

550
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 5: Salt mine, guys, it's in a salt mine.

551
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: It's good for preservation, that's right.

552
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, we're not the only ones questioning this whole

553
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 4: idea of like is this just kind of a clever gesture.

554
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: There is a guy by the name of Thomas Hines

555
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: Highness I think his name is, who is interviewed for

556
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 4: this piece in Smithsonian actually for several pieces of reporting

557
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: on this subject, who said something very similar to what

558
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: we have been saying, like how will they know how

559
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: to read the crystal? How will they know how to

560
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 4: build a device to read the crystal? I can barely

561
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 4: connect my ten year old iPod and listen to what

562
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 4: I listened to back then. You nailed it as far

563
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 4: as I'm concerned, Like technology is weird like that, and

564
00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 4: we are in a time where like there's planned obso

565
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 4: lescence and all the dongles and different connections and peripherals.

566
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 5: And all that stuff.

567
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: I don't even know how you access There was nothing

568
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: in any of the reporting that said, is this USB like,

569
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 4: do you have to have some sort of specialized device.

570
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 4: It's not very clear how you access the data that's

571
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 4: etched into this thing. I would think it would have

572
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: to be proprietary, like the way a record is read

573
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 4: by a stylus, you know, as or I guess that's

574
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 4: also the way a hard drive is read. It's just

575
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 4: a sort of a more micro stylist. So maybe it

576
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 4: is something like that. Is it circular? They say it's

577
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: a coin, Like, I want to know more about how

578
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 4: this thing is actually interpreted.

579
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Also, the concept of something being proprietary may well

580
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 3: be alien and incomprehensible to a future civilization, right like, oh,

581
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: we could learn the secrets of this long lost organic

582
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: life for because right now the statistics are showing us

583
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: whatever discovers that this would not be organic millions of

584
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: years in the future. So they would say, like, I

585
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: feel like it would be very classic human and therefore

586
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: very short sighted for them to say, oh, we could

587
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: bring them back, but that's proprietary. We don't want to

588
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 3: pony up the ten bucks use now. We also don't

589
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: want our secrets to be leaked out there. Oh my god,

590
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: our secrets to you guys.

591
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 4: We can't have them know how to how to create

592
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 4: our proprietary coding machine.

593
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 5: Kind of defeats the purpose. But but you're right, man.

594
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 4: We've talked about this in terms of the gold disc

595
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: that was floated out into space, like what are you

596
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: going to do with that? You know, you don't have

597
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: a photograph or maybe even the wherewithals to create a thing.

598
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 4: Just as far as I'm concerned, that kind of technology

599
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 4: is magic anyway. But a sufficiently intelligent beyond us, likely

600
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: enough civilization or species maybe could figure it out reverse engineer.

601
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 4: That's the positive outlook, right, or the optimistic approach.

602
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Hey, guys, what about this, just while we're

603
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: while we're playing the game. What if every free object

604
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: from space that hits planet Earth has always been some

605
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: sort of encoded message from other long dead civilizations and

606
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: we look at it and we just say, oh, that's

607
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: a weird amount of nickel in this space rock. Let's

608
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 3: put it in a museum, you know what I mean?

609
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: That might happen. They might say that it might hit

610
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 3: some other civilization, this coin if it's launched out into

611
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: deep space, out in the ink, and then someone says, oh,

612
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 3: that's interesting, that looks a little different from the other rocks.

613
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: Let's put it in our future alien museum.

614
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: Dude. I know we've joked sometimes about the moon being

615
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: a giant message to humanity from love it, you know,

616
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: whatever seated our planet and then put the moon there

617
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: to make sure the oceans did their thing so that

618
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: life could you know, emerge. That'd be super cool if

619
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: we find it. There's like some control panel inside the moon.

620
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: I wanted to be such a bait and switch, Like

621
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Speaker 3: do you guys remember the film A Christmas Story where

622
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: the guy finally gets his decoder ring and it just says,

623
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 3: drink more ovaltine. Of course, I want to, like we

624
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 3: on the human civilization unlocks the mystery of the moon

625
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 3: as a message, and all it says is buy more moons.

626
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 4: One of my favorite pieces of pop culture that uses

627
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: a show similar to this as the episode of the

628
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 4: Seminal nineties children's show but Weird in that era of

629
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: weird children's shows, The Adventures of Pet and p is

630
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: an episode called Johnny Unitas in the Universe about messages

631
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 4: being beamed to and from space and the length of

632
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Speaker 4: time it takes for them to get where they're going

633
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 4: and what they're interpreted as you wouldn't think the Adventures

634
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Speaker 4: of Pete and Pete and Nickelodeon t Oven the nineties

635
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: would have answered deep existential questions, but boy, it surely

636
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: does highly recommend it. So with that, I think that's

637
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Speaker 4: it for this one. Guys do want to do a

638
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 4: little more digging. And all the pieces I read nothing

639
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 4: about how you actually plug this thing up and get

640
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: that five D model onto your device. So if anybody

641
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 4: out there is aware, please do let us know. Conspiracy

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Speaker 3: cavalcade of columnia and catastrophe towards the beginning of the show.

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Speaker 3: We're going to end with these. We're going to alternate

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Speaker 3: Fat Bear Week is hopefully back on track. As we

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Speaker 3: all surely know, Fat Bear Week is a thing the

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Speaker 3: measure how big bears are getting pre hibernation. Unfortunately, was

654
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Speaker 3: delayed due to fatal bear combat, which is just the

655
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: brutal way of nature. Is also speaking of federal services.

656
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 3: A postal worker has been busted. We'll do some heist

657
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: real quick for stealing over one point five million dollars

658
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 3: US worth of checks from various letters over a long

659
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 3: period of time. Do you guys ever get checks in

660
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: the mail? Is it legal for me to ask.

661
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 5: You mailbox money as they call it? Sure? You know

662
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 5: what I mean.

663
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 4: You know people who get like their Spotify twenty five

664
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: cents that comes in the mail usually, or like residuals

665
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 4: for TV, and they call it mailbox money. No, I

666
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 4: haven't received a check in the mail in many, many,

667
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: many years.

668
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: It used to be a birthday thing, not anymore birthday

669
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Speaker 3: thing more.

670
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Speaker 2: And I get unless someone is taking my checks exactly.

671
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: That's where we're going. We're going to Anthony verdu the

672
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: second young man twenty nine years old, charged with three

673
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: counts of mail theft, one count of wire fraud, worked

674
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: in Saint Louis, Missouri. Had access to all the first

675
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: class mail process through the facility, and he just kept

676
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 3: skimming the checks. He just kept taking them. You could

677
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: always see, you know, a certain amount of loss or

678
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 3: what do they call it? Shrinkage baked into operations like

679
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: this where someone says, oh, the check didn't get to you,

680
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 3: we will go ahead and make it right because, as

681
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: we know, if you are the company side of an

682
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: equation where you have to provide compensation, you want those

683
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 3: free lanswers to get paid immediately. So if a check

684
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: is lost, then just hurry up replace it, you know

685
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: what I mean, let accounting sweep up the remnants. My

686
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: first question with this was, you know, as someone who

687
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 3: gets checks through various addresses for various reasons like how

688
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: easy is it to quote unquote steal a check, how

689
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: do you clean it? And we found the answer. It's

690
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,959
Speaker 3: money laundering. You can do something as get this as

691
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: low tech as using an erase, you know, like the

692
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: kind of erasers that work on pen You just erase

693
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: you know, the specifics that you need gone, and then

694
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 3: you put it through a mobile deposit account. So for

695
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: a lot of people, especially here in the West, who

696
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 3: have you know, a banking app of some sort, it

697
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 3: will typically let you deposit a check by taking a

698
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: photograph of the front and back for the obverse of

699
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: that check, right, so you never have to physically go

700
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 3: to the place This makes it more difficult to figure out. Well,

701
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 3: you know, when someone wiped out the original name of

702
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: the recipient and wrote in Johnny Blue Jean's America or whatever.

703
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: That's so crazy because the money is coming from somewhere,

704
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 2: and that money can be tracked, and where did it

705
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: come from, Where did it go? Where did it come from?

706
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 5: Where did it go?

707
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 2: Chase Bank knows.

708
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Cotton, I Chase, I love it. It's it's

709
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 3: also completely pot possible. Here's the deal. If you're worried

710
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: about scrutiny, and banks are getting better at this in

711
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: the West, it's also completely possible to figure out the

712
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: name of the payee on the check and then create

713
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 3: your own business accounts that is not quite the name,

714
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's not quite Dylan Tennessee pal.

715
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 3: It's something like Dylan Tennessee doll or whatever. And then

716
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: that will that will work. This will be deposited into

717
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: your bank account's name, get the money out, clear out

718
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 3: that account, skipped out. It's stunding that this is possible

719
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four, in a surveillance state of all things.

720
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: Is this a modern version of what they used to

721
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 5: call kiting? Checks.

722
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 4: Yes, Okay, there's a there's a great show on Netflix

723
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 4: called Ripley that's about like a talented mister Ripley. For

724
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 4: that character played by Oh Gosh, I forget his name,

725
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 4: he's wonderfully played Moriarty in the Showloe series with Benett Cumberbatch.

726
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 5: He's a check fraudster. At a certain point.

727
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 4: He does some very similar things in a much more

728
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 4: analog fashion to what you're describing.

729
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 5: Then mm hmmm.

730
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is this kind of crime may be

731
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 3: a dying art because it does rely on physical artifacts.

732
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: We also want to be very very clear, we're huge

733
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 3: supporters of our United States Postal Service. I don't know

734
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: how everybody else feels with their neighborhood postal worker, but

735
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: my crew is awesome. Those guys are the best. I

736
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: don't know if you guys. Do you guys have are

737
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 3: you on like a named name or chat sort of

738
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 3: level with your postal workers?

739
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 4: You got me wanting to go that route because I

740
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 4: should I say hi and I wave, but have not,

741
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 4: you know, taken it further than that.

742
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 5: Ben, I'm gonna take your inspiration and do that.

743
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 2: Yes, but I'm not going to tell you about her

744
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: name or any of it's between you information.

745
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: Right right. I love it. So you have to be

746
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: careful with giving gifts because it could count as bribery. However,

747
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 3: the one thing he can't give them for sure, for

748
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: sure is a hybrid clone sheep that is illegal to

749
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 3: give to a postal office worker. We know this because

750
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 3: on the heels of our original conversation about this in

751
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 3: a Strange News program in March of this year, the

752
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: guy out in Montana who was breeding illegal giant sheep

753
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: hybrid clones just got convicted six months in prison. No

754
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 3: sheep for you. Do you guys remember this story at all?

755
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: The original?

756
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,240
Speaker 5: Sure?

757
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, it rings a bell, but I'm going to need

758
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: to walk back through with you.

759
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: Arthur Shoebarth Jack to his friends, was selling these things

760
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: that were often called Frankin sheep clones, and he was

761
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: doing this with a weird kind of resurrection men arrangement

762
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: going back to twenty thirteen where he got body parts

763
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 3: of a dead sheep, the ovis aman Poli or Marco

764
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: Polo our Dolli sheep. He got it from people in Kyrghyzstan,

765
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 3: and then he started trying to clone these the same

766
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 3: way that a few years back, people cloned Dolly, remember

767
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: Dolly the clone sheep. He was cloning these and the

768
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 3: business of cloning right now is pretty imperfect. It's just

769
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 3: like that banger Michael Keaton piece of cinema multiplicity. You

770
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: make a clone of a clone or a copy of

771
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 3: a copy, and they kind of things get worse and worse.

772
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

773
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, So apparently this guy violated the law because not

774
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: because he was making money, but because, according to the

775
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: Department of Justice, he was threatening Montana's native wildlife species.

776
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 4: Like this is an invasive and it would beat them

777
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 4: up because it's so big and bad.

778
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: It's from Kyrgyzstan. I guess I. You know, you can

779
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: read more about this all over the place, in you know,

780
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 3: in our previous Strange News program, also in the recent

781
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 3: news find it in Popular Science. Shout out to Andrew Paul,

782
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: who wrote an article that posted yesterday as we record

783
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: here on October second. That's the thing. I don't know,

784
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 3: should it be illegal to clone animals? I feel like

785
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: it should not.

786
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, it could be considered animal cruelty if

787
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 4: they end up in that kill me, kill me situation,

788
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 4: because it's a botched clone job.

789
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 2: You know, well, theoretically he was like sending out to

790
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: get these cloned embryos made for him, right, Yes.

791
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: So.

792
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a tough one for me because

793
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: if you can make just some cloned embryos, theoretically, if

794
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: you could make enough cloned embryos of maybe the same

795
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 2: batch or something. I don't know how all of that works,

796
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 2: but you wouldn't have that problem of like making clones

797
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 2: of clones of clones of clones.

798
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 3: If you had a fresh one.

799
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

800
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the art of it. And this is where

801
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: we go back, you know, not to set jurisprudence for

802
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: millions or quintillions of years in the future, but what

803
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: if future civilizations can't clone humans back into existence, you know,

804
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: because of the legal and ethical constraints.

805
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 4: With the memory crystal. I'm sorry I never said what

806
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: it was called. It's called the memory crystal, y, I'm sorry.

807
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well we remembered it, Yeah.

808
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 5: We sure did, and it's a very appropriate companion story.

809
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 3: Got a couple more. Speaking of companion stories, Do you

810
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 3: guys remember cannabis?

811
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Speaker 5: Do I remember it?

812
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 2: Honestly, not really? I know the smell though, right, right?

813
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 3: Is that a skunk that's a shout out to a

814
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: weird heist we did many years ago. But but I

815
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: was interested to find this. This is lighthearted news, apparently, and

816
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 3: I'm not super sure on the science. I'd love to

817
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: hear everybody's opinion. Apparently, a new study is found that

818
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 3: consumption of cannabis does genuinely enhance a human individual's enjoyment

819
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: of music. No, and the best thing about this headline

820
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: is quote confirming what every Stoner already knows.

821
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: Well.

822
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: I will neither confirm nor deny whether or I already

823
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: knew that, but seems pretty logical.

824
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: Apparently, and this comes to us from the Toronto Metropolitan University.

825
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: They look, I'm gonna be honest, this is what we

826
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: will call anecdotal in the world of science, so it's

827
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: much more of like a social science study. They recruited

828
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 3: people at Toronto met and they did so. But here

829
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: here's where the methodology gets a little touch. They got

830
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: people to participate in the study by getting students from

831
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 3: the university. Classic that's always good, But they also put

832
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: up flyers at a little less than forty different headshops

833
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 3: in the Toronto Metro area and they said, hey, complete

834
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 3: this questionnaire and we'll interview you also. But I do

835
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: feel like this has even though it's anecdotal, I feel

836
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: like it already confirms something that a lot of our

837
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: friends and acquaintances who engage with cannabis have already told us,

838
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 3: right like that baseline doesn't hit until the edible does.

839
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 5: Right.

840
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, man, I'm certainly not one that

841
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 4: is a proponent of saying that you need extracurriculars in

842
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: order to enjoy a fine piece of arts or music.

843
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 4: You know, I think history has shown that there certainly

844
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 4: our ways.

845
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 5: Of enhancing these things.

846
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: Can I read a quote from the Marijuana.

847
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: Moment Yeah on a moment dot net, published October first

848
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 3: by Ben Atlind go Ben's here's.

849
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 2: One of the people who who responded to this quote.

850
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: When I'm not high, I just don't pay enough attention

851
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,239
Speaker 2: to the music. It's like background noise compared to when

852
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: I'm high. It's like the only thing I'm focused on.

853
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 5: Give Stoner's a bad name.

854
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: They described increased awareness and sensitivity of sounds and volumes

855
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 3: even when the set volume of the music remained unchanged.

856
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 3: So this it's weird. I think it's more fun than

857
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 3: anything else because Luckily, the Western world and hopefully global

858
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: civilization overall, is getting past their vilification of cannabis phase.

859
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 3: And to be completely clear, without compromising anybody, I'm not

860
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: cannabis enthusiast. I do ethically and morally support it, and

861
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 3: I think that you can make a very strong financial

862
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:09,839
Speaker 3: argument for decriminalizing or completely legalizing these substances. They kill

863
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: far fewer people than alcohol year over year. There's that.

864
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 5: I do think.

865
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 4: I love studies, though, that confirm things that have long

866
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 4: been kind of obvious to everybody.

867
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: It's just fun, yeah, And that's part of science, and

868
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,760
Speaker 3: it can sound silly when it's reported in mass media,

869
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 3: where you'll see something like stunning news study confirms Earth

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Speaker 3: is indeed the third planet from what we call the sudden.

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Speaker 4: Cookies are tasty, right right. I want to see the

872
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Speaker 4: study about the munchies next. That'll be a fun one.

873
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Speaker 2: Every time we talk about something like this, now, guys,

874
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: I just think about that brief, super flawed thing we

875
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:57,760
Speaker 2: read about, what was it, cannabis psychosis, Cannabis in psychosis,

876
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's about it.

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Speaker 3: That's like saying there's a link between dungeons and dragons

878
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: and heavy metal and murder. Yeah, but that's not the

879
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 3: that portraying these as the prime mover is I would say,

880
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 3: intellectually am Worley fraudulent and irresponsible.

881
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Speaker 4: But I just did want to add that we did

882
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Speaker 4: have some experts or some listeners right in about the

883
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: marijuana do psychosist thing and saying that a person sufficiently

884
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 4: on the brink of schizophrenia or undiagnosed, you know, psychiatric

885
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 4: disorders smoking marijuana for the first time, a very strong

886
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 4: dose or something could be triggered into a psychotic episode.

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Speaker 3: So just yeah, yes, And to give the larger frame there,

888
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 3: you could say the same about many other psychoactive substances, right, twinkies.

889
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 3: So again, this meritajuana madness stuff comes from very old racism,

890
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 3: and hopefully the money will outweigh the racism at some point.

891
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Speaker 5: But I don't know.

892
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 3: When I think when I think of cannabis, I think

893
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 3: of usually the munchies, which I know is apparently anecdotal.

894
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 3: But there's nothing like a good song and a good

895
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 3: snack if you're indulging, and pretty soon, depending on how

896
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 3: things work out, folks, you tell us, pretty soon it

897
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 3: may be difficult to get some of your favorite snacks

898
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: because there is a dock workers strike.

899
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Speaker 5: A great transition.

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Speaker 3: Ben, well, let's mat I did it twice, fair enough.

901
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Speaker 4: I was going to not give that people behind the curtain,

902
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: but you're out as yourself, so I can't transparencies.

903
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 3: And so this dock workers strike, we heard about it.

904
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 3: It's making the rounds on social media, and the idea

905
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: is that it can push up prices and cause shortages

906
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: depending upon how long it lasts.

907
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 5: So is there long shortman?

908
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 3: Right? Yes?

909
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 5: Yeah?

910
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 3: All one word?

911
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 5: No?

912
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 4: And word isn't a big demand of theirs. The similar

913
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Speaker 4: demands that we've seen in things like the writer's strike

914
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Speaker 4: is automation minimization.

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00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the writers' guilds have a far lower likelihood

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Speaker 3: of the involvement of organized crime.

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Speaker 5: Oh that's not it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that this is one hundred percent of

919
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: corruption situation, but it does remind me of folks behind

920
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 3: the scenes round about. I would say late July early August,

921
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Speaker 3: we start speculating on what will be the October surprise

922
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 3: of the United States election year.

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Speaker 5: It hasn't happened yet. I mean, I know, we're only

924
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 5: a couple of days in. Yeah.

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00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: Well, sometimes it's something like a political opponent pressuring their

926
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Speaker 3: colleagues or conspirators to hold hostages. Sometimes it's futzing with

927
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 3: supply chains. Sometimes it's an attack that could have happened

928
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 3: in September that is held until October, all orbiting around

929
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: the idea of how this may or may not affect

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00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 3: the election of the President of the United States every

931
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 3: four years in November. It's a real thing. Some of

932
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Speaker 3: these conspiracies are real. I don't know if this is

933
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: our October surprise, no all. To your point, I don't

934
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 3: know if there's a multiple October surprise situation. And I

935
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Speaker 3: also don't know, just like the chlorine gas here in Atlanta,

936
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much of this with the doc

937
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: workers strike is ginned up, you know, to make people

938
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Speaker 3: panic because we are of fear ruled news cycle.

939
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Speaker 4: At the moment, I was going to ask you, Ben,

940
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: the idea of organized crime and this. Are you saying

941
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: that organized crime is has their hands on the puppet

942
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 4: strings of a strike like this or this is a

943
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 4: reaction to organized crime.

944
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Speaker 5: I just want to clarify I see.

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Speaker 3: I will say one, unions are a good thing. Two,

946
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 3: some unions have been historically compromised by organized crime.

947
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Speaker 5: Teamsters for example.

948
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 3: Right, well, well, we're not saying a word about the

949
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: tea guys. We're cool.

950
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: We're cool to worry about ya. I saw it in

951
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 5: a movie called The Irishman. I heard about it.

952
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I recently watched a show called Kill

953
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 3: the Irishman, or a film called Kill the Irishman, which

954
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: was very much about this.

955
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 4: But Kill the Irishman is that different from the Irishman? Yeah,

956
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 4: it's different. It's weird about the same thing.

957
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they just had to add some different

958
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 3: words to get the titles happening here. Okay, but we

959
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 3: do want to say that when you hear this strange

960
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: news program on October seventh, the strike may well be over.

961
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: The concern is that should the strike continue past a

962
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 3: certain amount of time, you could be in a situation

963
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 3: where you cannot buy the things you need or those

964
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: things are insanely overpriced. So it is always good to

965
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 3: plan ahead just in case. It's best to be prepared.

966
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 4: Things are already kind of insanely overpriced. No kidding up,

967
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 4: twenty one station and all of that of snacks. This

968
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 4: is does not bow dwell for our twinkies.

969
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 5: Sorry. The weed story got me feeling snaky.

970
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, perhaps concerns like this, which we can all identify with,

971
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: I imagine, are what prompted what of our last stories.

972
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: A woman, perhaps in preparation for these different issues of

973
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: our time, attempted to smuggle seven hundred pounds of blogey Jesus. Uh.

974
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 3: It was forty rolls of Mexican pork boloney. It is

975
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 3: illegal in the United States, kind of like how raw

976
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 3: milk is illegal.

977
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 5: Uh.

978
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: And when this person got caught, they had a lot

979
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 3: of suitcases that appeared, according to Customs and Border Protection

980
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 3: to be quote heavier than normal. First off, I think

981
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: that's unfair. A lot of people have heavy suitcases.

982
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 5: True, it's true, what is normal in this situation?

983
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 4: Anyway, as long as you pay the cost, you know,

984
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 4: for over oversized baggage, you should be good to go.

985
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 4: I want to hear what led them to doing a

986
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 4: search that just seems like a very arbitrary metric.

987
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 3: Well, I'm playing a little bit of a clickbait game.

988
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 5: Maybe there was a smell. There was a smell.

989
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 3: Excuse me, miss, don't take this the wrong way.

990
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 5: You like, yeah, is just the same deal as like

991
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 5: what I was what I was talking about.

992
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 4: I was in Spain and like the butcher, when I

993
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: went to buy the Jamaan said, don't be taking that

994
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: on the plane.

995
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 5: Now.

996
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 4: Yes, it's like certain processes are different in other countries,

997
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 4: therefore they are not allowed to be brought into.

998
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 3: This Yeah, and here in the US or the fifty

999
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 3: US states, the most persnickety about that would be Hawaii

1000
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 3: due to their unique apology. But this lady, just to

1001
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 3: establish why this is kind of clickbait, is yes, she

1002
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 3: was trying to move seven hundred and forty eight pounds

1003
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 3: of bolooney into the US. You get in situations, you

1004
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Let's not call this lady a

1005
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,720
Speaker 3: villain for trying to make a living off of boloney.

1006
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 5: But she's the hero we deserve.

1007
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 3: Maybe she is, maybe she's getting in front of maybe

1008
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 3: she's a worse head hop uh. But unfortunately, she also

1009
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: was carrying two hundred and eighty boxes prescription medicine. And

1010
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 3: it's legal to carry that across the border if you

1011
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 3: declare it, which this person did not. And it included

1012
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: something that we have mentioned I think briefly in previous recordings, tramadoll.

1013
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: What is tramadol again, Why he.

1014
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 5: Looking at me?

1015
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 3: No, I'm looking at that.

1016
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 5: He's joking. He's not looking at anybody, folks.

1017
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,320
Speaker 4: There's no way to tell who he's looking at in

1018
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 4: this Brady Buncher, right, I was gonna make a dumb joke. Well,

1019
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 4: maybe the bologney, maybe it was dog medication. In the

1020
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 4: bologney was to wrap the pill up to feed to

1021
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,280
Speaker 4: the dogs. They can take their their mets. No trade

1022
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 4: lawyer at large. Tramma doll is a is a heavy sedative.

1023
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 4: To my understanding, I believe that's what they call an antipsychotic.

1024
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 3: Oh wow, well it appears that this person did get caught.

1025
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 3: This is our reminder, folks, no matter where you find yourself,

1026
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: when you are going across an international border, just go

1027
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 3: ahead and play by the rules of the place you

1028
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: are going to. It does not matter what is legal

1029
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 3: in your origin country or where you're coming from. There's

1030
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 3: a reason that people get arrested for, you know, drug

1031
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: possession based on urine test things like that.

1032
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 5: I was dead wrong. By the way, tramadall is used

1033
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 5: to relieve pain and.

1034
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: It is it's like a muscle relaxer.

1035
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 4: Maybe yeah, I thought it was something. It's It's definitely

1036
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 4: not like an opioid. It's something different, but it is

1037
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 4: considered a class for controlled substance because of its potential

1038
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 4: for misuse and addiction. Ultram is the brand name, which

1039
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 4: sounds like a Ultram.

1040
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 5: The Ultram sounds like a Michael Bay robot.

1041
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, or it sounds like the the M track you

1042
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: have to pay extra for. Anyway, this is our show. Sorry,

1043
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: everybody went a little over time there. I was losing

1044
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 3: track of it. We're very excited off air about the

1045
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: US Armies testing of robot dogs armed with AI enabled

1046
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,720
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1047
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,840
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