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Speaker 1: your twenty four seventh home of the Black and Gold

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Speaker 1: SNR Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the Drive. I

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Speaker 1: am Dale Lollly. He is Matt Williamson and as a

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Speaker 1: free agency continues to kick off here in the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty three offseason, Matt, to your point about some of

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Speaker 1: these guys signing ridiculous deals, Juwan Taylor got twenty million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year from Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, and to

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Speaker 1: be fair, we don't exactly know how all these deals

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Speaker 1: are structured. I mean, the agents are going to put

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Speaker 1: it out, you know, X amount of years, so many

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Speaker 1: you know, in so many dollars, and everyone will just

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Speaker 1: divide it up and think that's what they're getting. And

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Speaker 1: that's mostly true. But that's a perfect example. Like, is

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Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor better than Chokes a corps for I mean,

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Speaker 1: like he's a good, young, ascending player who's going to

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Speaker 1: the Chokes level, I mean he's good, He's a you know,

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Speaker 1: People were flipping out in Pittsburgh last year because Chokes

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Speaker 1: got basically ten eleven million dollars a year, Right, that's

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Speaker 1: what I mean. Some of these deals are crazy, you know,

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Speaker 1: Like people were freaking out in Pittsburgh last year because

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Speaker 1: Steelers signed Mitch Rubisky to a two year, basically sixteen

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Speaker 1: played like five games, you know. Like, here's another one

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Speaker 1: that's a little crazy to me. And again we don't

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Speaker 1: know the exact numbers, but like there were two guard signings.

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Speaker 1: Ben Powers goes from the Ravens to ten four years

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Speaker 1: fifty two million. You know, Connor McGovern goes to the

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Speaker 1: don't understand. I mean, some of money is getting thrown

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Speaker 1: bad deals. Yeah, these are guys to your point, they

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Speaker 1: were going to be, you know, two years from now

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Speaker 1: one I thought was kind of interesting because we mentioned

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Speaker 1: tackle three years, twenty four and a half million. That

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Speaker 1: guys like that, That to me is a decent signing.

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Speaker 1: of year that you can this. Also, Matt, we did,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned before in a previous segment, we did

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Speaker 1: our mock draft or Steelers dot Com within Noel though,

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Speaker 1: six hours. That thing's dead, right. It is like everything changes.

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Speaker 1: Not only was there a huge trade that we have

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Speaker 1: the Panthers go from nine to one obviously to take

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Speaker 1: changing unbelievably quickly right now, you know, I mean again,

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Speaker 1: I mocked Christian Gonzalez the Lions. Well, do you think

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Speaker 1: wherever they picked. Let's let's go through that draft right now,

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Speaker 1: At five, Alan Hills scenario was kind of logical for them. Yeah,

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