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Speaker 2: I'm not sure where to start this with you today.
Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. You know, one of my jobs
Speaker 2: as a mechanic is the next generation. It just is.
Speaker 2: But I've always really had that attitude. I don't think
Speaker 2: of other shops as competitors. I think we all have
Speaker 2: our strengths and weaknesses, and I think the greatest thing
Speaker 2: a mechanic can do in the course of his or
Speaker 2: her day is to help another mechanic, especially the next generation.
Speaker 2: I think it's our obligation. I really do. The older
Speaker 2: I get, the more I sit and I say to myself,
Speaker 2: you know, I want to in part some wisdom. I'm
Speaker 2: told I have wisdom. I'm told I've been around a
Speaker 2: while and I've got some smart things to say and
Speaker 2: do and show and be. I had to stop buy
Speaker 2: another shop this week, and when I walked in, Paul,
Speaker 2: one of the younger mechanics, not a newbie by any stretch,
Speaker 2: but you know, maybe he's been doing it twenty years,
Speaker 2: but you could see he was frustrated. He was putting
Speaker 2: parking break shoes on a late model Dodge Ram pickup truck.
Speaker 2: And Dodge and Ram is the same thing to me.
Speaker 2: So let's not get hung up on vernacular. Let's please
Speaker 2: no no, no Internet trolling and you can you know,
Speaker 2: there's nothing worse than a frustrated mechanic. And do I
Speaker 2: get frustrated? Sure? Do I get upset? Yeah? I bet
Speaker 2: I do, because I think I'm still human. And you know,
Speaker 2: but one of the things I've learned is that you
Speaker 2: can get upset and ticked off all you want, and
Speaker 2: when you recover, when you calm down, you still got
Speaker 2: to fix the car in front of you. It's still
Speaker 2: going to be there. So I've tried to get upset
Speaker 2: less and think more. And I think that's part of
Speaker 2: the repair process. I think that's something I'm obligated to do,
Speaker 2: and it's something I try to impart to everyone, not
Speaker 2: just the younger mechanics. It seems like maybe the younger
Speaker 2: mechanics or some of the younger mechanics need it more,
Speaker 2: but it's just something we're supposed to do, you know.
Speaker 2: And if I can find and I there are guys
Speaker 2: out there, there's guys out there smarter than me, I
Speaker 2: will sit and listen to them and understand their procedure
Speaker 2: and process and question why. And that's what makes me
Speaker 2: a better mechanic. You know. They always say, right, play
Speaker 2: tennis with someone that's better than you, because you'll rise
Speaker 2: to their level. And I really believe that's that's especially
Speaker 2: true with auto mechanics, because if you're fixing something in
Speaker 2: a shop and you know the guy next to you
Speaker 2: is smarter than you, more experienced than you, more wisdom
Speaker 2: than you, or maybe just his mind mechanically sees the
Speaker 2: problem clearer. You're going to benefit from that, you know.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like, why can one person play the
Speaker 2: guitar better than the other. The guitar is a very
Speaker 2: strange instrument to me, don't I don't get it. Seven strings,
Speaker 2: nine strings, whatever it is. They strum, they do this,
Speaker 2: they move the left hand, they move the right hand.
Speaker 2: I've watched people play guitar. It's fascinating. And yet I
Speaker 2: put a wrench in their hands and they're all thumbs.
Speaker 2: It's just it's proof of God, is what it is, right,
Speaker 2: because everybody has their strengths. So Paul struggling back to
Speaker 2: Paul with these parking braak shoes. He's struggling doing these shoes.
Speaker 2: And I can tell it's been a while by the
Speaker 2: number of curses coming out of his mouth. It's, you know,
Speaker 2: it seems like it's you know, when you get four
Speaker 2: or five rattling off right after the other, and he's
Speaker 2: cursing every engineer that ever designed a vehicle, including the
Speaker 2: ones that designed this one, and why would they make
Speaker 2: it like this? And I don't understand. And this company
Speaker 2: just just not not a pretty site. So I looked
Speaker 2: at him. I came around the corner before I went
Speaker 2: over to look at the car I was supposed to
Speaker 2: go look at, and I said, having a problem, and
Speaker 2: he just looked at me. He didn't press his case,
Speaker 2: And I said, what's going on that I can't say
Speaker 2: it here on radio blankety blankety blankety blankety truck and
Speaker 2: these blankety parking brake shoes. Well, let's look at this,
Speaker 2: I said, these are these are tough to do, all right,
Speaker 2: So you're not experiencing anything out of the ordinary. And
Speaker 2: I think it's important to tell somebody that right right away.
Speaker 2: We as human beings, you know, there's something we can't do.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, what's wrong with me? I'm defective. No,
Speaker 2: you're not defective either. You haven't done it before. You're
Speaker 2: having a bad day. Because we're all victims of society,
Speaker 2: right We're all victims of how we're traumatized by the
Speaker 2: morning or the afternoon, or a trigger something somebody says
Speaker 2: that we have to react to. But let's look at this.
Speaker 2: So I took the parking break shoes back off, and
Speaker 2: I left part of it together, and I unhooked the
Speaker 2: bottom and I watched what he had done, and I said,
Speaker 2: why don't we do it this way? And I showed
Speaker 2: him a different way to get the shoe over the
Speaker 2: axle and clip it in at the bottom. He'd been
Speaker 2: there twenty five minutes. I did it in three and
Speaker 2: a half. Start to finish, conversation over he just looked
Speaker 2: at me. Wow, and he didn't know what to say.
Speaker 2: And I said, listen, let me just be honest, all right,
Speaker 2: I said, you work here, I work over there. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. We're both trying to fix cars for a living.
Speaker 2: And I've never felt I've never felt harsh towards another shop.
Speaker 2: I will gladly help another shop. I don't care. I
Speaker 2: will explain everything I do and why. And I've had
Speaker 2: a lot of guys say to me, jee, I never
Speaker 2: thought of doing it that way. And I've had all
Speaker 2: the guys tell me I'm a jerk. And you know what,
Speaker 2: God bless you know. My truck runs, I know where
Speaker 2: I'm going, I know what I'm doing at the end
Speaker 2: of the day, and I don't worry about it. And
Speaker 2: he said, he said, how did you figure that out?
Speaker 2: And I said, because I sat here enough times struggling,
Speaker 2: and I've learned, How will I take it apart? Is
Speaker 2: probably the best way to approach something that I'm either
Speaker 2: not familiar with or it's my weakness, the things that
Speaker 2: I struggle with. And you know, it's that way working
Speaker 2: on cars, It's that way on life. It's that way
Speaker 2: being organized on Saturday morning? Do you take out the garbage,
Speaker 2: make breakfast, then make the better? Do you do it
Speaker 2: in reverse order or do you do it in some
Speaker 2: conglomeration of that? What do you do first? You have
Speaker 2: to figure it out. It's just like working on a car,
Speaker 2: it's like life. And he got into it. He got
Speaker 2: it right. It made sense to him, and we talked
Speaker 2: a little bit and one of the other texts came
Speaker 2: over in the shop more or less the shop form
Speaker 2: and if he is that? And he listened and he
Speaker 2: started watching. He was watching what I did, and he said, huh,
Speaker 2: I never thought of doing it that way. Yeah, I said, listen,
Speaker 2: you know that's I said. That's not why I'm here,
Speaker 2: I said, but I'm glad to show you guys something,
Speaker 2: because you know what, you'll show me something. And you know,
Speaker 2: that's how we all learn. And it's the collective think tank,
Speaker 2: and that's how it has to be, because you know,
Speaker 2: what a repair is very different today. In the sixties,
Speaker 2: in the seventies, every job was cookie cutter in a sense, right.
Speaker 2: Cylinder heads came off, cylinder heads went on, engines came in,
Speaker 2: engines went out. Tune ups were all the same points, plugs, condenser.
Speaker 2: You always had to set the points before you adjusted
Speaker 2: the timing. You always had to do the base mixture
Speaker 2: screws before you set the bas idle, and then you'd
Speaker 2: have to go back and do it again. There was
Speaker 2: always a procedure in a process. Today everything is so different,
Speaker 2: and the car the way you did the car before
Speaker 2: is so different than the next one. And it could
Speaker 2: be the same model year but a slightly different problem,
Speaker 2: perhaps a different software version. But the point is you're
Speaker 2: always learning and you have to look at it. When
Speaker 2: you're in a shop, when you're in a production situation,
Speaker 2: you've got to you gotta get You got to fix
Speaker 2: the car in front of you. That's what you're being
Speaker 2: paid to do. Paul looked at me and he said,
Speaker 2: how do you do that? And I said, you know, Paul,
Speaker 2: I keep one thing going in the back of my
Speaker 2: mind all the time. I consider myself a good mechanic.
Speaker 2: Every once in a while I get to be a
Speaker 2: great mechanic, And in my mind, the difference is a
Speaker 2: good mechanic will fix anything. A great mechanic figures out
Speaker 2: a better way to do it. Because I'm tired of
Speaker 2: getting burned, hurt, hung, you know, bogged down, and it's
Speaker 2: only a car, I'm not going to get upset about
Speaker 2: it because i still got to fix it. And I've
Speaker 2: learned that because I've stood up one time too many
Speaker 2: going yeah, okay, it's still here. You know, you come
Speaker 2: back in on Tuesday morning after that rough Monday, and
Speaker 2: you go, yeah, it's still here. I still got to
Speaker 2: fix this. So for my mechanics out there, even for I,
Speaker 2: do it Yourselfers, whoever you are, whatever you're doing, if
Speaker 2: you can teach somebody next generation, next level up, approach
Speaker 2: them with caution, Approach them with kindness, Approach them with
Speaker 2: a teaching mentality. Because the person you elevate today may
Speaker 2: come back and elevate you tomorrow. Because what we put
Speaker 2: out there in the universe comes back, and it feeds
Speaker 2: it to us ever so much all the time, and
Speaker 2: right now, like always, like most times, the world needs
Speaker 2: a little understanding. So remember that good mechanics get it done.
Speaker 2: Great mechanics figure out better ways to do it. I'm
Speaker 2: running Amy in the car doctor. The phone number here
Speaker 2: is eight five five five six oh nine nine zero zero.
Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Let's see where should
Speaker 2: we go? Let's uh, let's take it right out to
Speaker 2: Iowa and talk to Bill. Bill, how are you today
Speaker 2: this fine day?
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm great. I'm listening to your program, you sir,
Speaker 3: few comments that I'm going to make that I'm eighty
Speaker 3: two and holding and I was at a car show
Speaker 3: last summer, and guess what. I won the trophy for
Speaker 3: the longest owning car because I bought my thirty eight
Speaker 3: chival A in nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And I still have it.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 3: And it's in stock condition when you look at it.
Speaker 2: What made you keep that car so long? Bill?
Speaker 3: Because I didn't know quite enough to do all the
Speaker 3: manual work of changing motors and all that. I knew
Speaker 3: just enough mechanics to get my tit and a ringer.
Speaker 3: And I listened to your program here to start today,
Speaker 3: and I don't know where we're going, but I'm so
Speaker 3: proud that I know just enough to keep my nineteen
Speaker 3: thirty eight Chivrolet sixth cylinder in running condition, doesn't I
Speaker 3: put a fifty six motor in it, and it has
Speaker 3: the vacuum advanced distributor. Can you relate to that? Sure?
Speaker 2: That was a big deal. I remember when they that
Speaker 2: was a huge deal. It was like they invented water. Yes, right, yep, yep.
Speaker 3: And so so I put radio. I put super tires
Speaker 3: on it and took the bias tires off a year ago,
Speaker 3: and it drives one hundred percent better with the radio tires.
Speaker 3: It's huntreal, you know what. I'd that's the first set
Speaker 3: of radios I have ever had on this car.
Speaker 2: You know, it gets me billt when I you know,
Speaker 2: I'll visit family in Pittsburg, and you know, I'll travel.
Speaker 2: I'll be on the road and you know, we'll go
Speaker 2: down to the Carolinas and the Outer Banks, you know,
Speaker 2: once a year. And I think about all these distances
Speaker 2: that we go in cars today that it's a shame
Speaker 2: cars go so fast because we just we just get
Speaker 2: in and we just zoom past all the good stuff.
Speaker 2: We don't enjoy. We don't enjoy the ride, we don't
Speaker 2: enjoy the scenery. And the other side of that is
Speaker 2: imagine driving in a nineteen thirty eighth chepro a from
Speaker 2: from from New Jersey to Pittsburgh or Iowa to New Jersey,
Speaker 2: and how long that would take and all kinds of weather,
Speaker 2: And now we just do it. You could You could
Speaker 2: probably make Iowa to New Jersey and what a solid
Speaker 2: day of driving, probably twenty four hours.
Speaker 3: Behind the wheil Oh, No, I ain't gonna do that.
Speaker 3: I drove my car in nineteen sixty five. I drove
Speaker 3: this car to California. How long did it take? Another
Speaker 3: buddy and we drove her all the way to California
Speaker 3: on Route sixty six, come into San Diego on ponder
Speaker 3: Rosa and camped out at Long each with my sister
Speaker 3: that was teaching school. And it was unimaginable that the
Speaker 3: enjoyment that we had driving this old car. We just
Speaker 3: put this this two thirty five six cylinder in it
Speaker 3: with dual intake elderbrock manifold that's got factory Corvette six
Speaker 3: cylinder headers on it. I'm still running that, but I
Speaker 3: got rid of the dual carburetors because this is before
Speaker 3: they had flexible fuel lines, right, And we had to
Speaker 3: have copper fuel lines. And when you shut when you
Speaker 3: idle this thing and pulled the hord, you wanted to
Speaker 3: get the fire extenditor because it was dripping fuel. But
Speaker 3: the minute you accelerated and took the pressure off, it
Speaker 3: ran clean.
Speaker 2: What other bill, what other bill? What other old cars
Speaker 2: have you owned? Do you miss any owner?
Speaker 3: No, that's the only car. That was my first car.
Speaker 3: I still got it. And I'm a farmer, and I
Speaker 3: have vintage tractors today, and we do vintage tractor rides
Speaker 3: today at twelve mile an hour on all types of terrain.
Speaker 3: And that is a mindset beside. It's un self because
Speaker 3: technology is so advanced today out here. It makes me scared.
Speaker 3: I'm so content with an old LG phone. I never
Speaker 3: put I never changed the ignition in my car to
Speaker 3: electronic ignition. They make it, But no, I haven't changed
Speaker 3: the points in that sucker for five years.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something, Bill, you think back, what's
Speaker 2: your what's the earliest car you remember?
Speaker 4: My dad had a Model A.
Speaker 3: He had a thirty two Model A sedan and when
Speaker 3: we drove it in the wintertime, there was no heater.
Speaker 3: But you dempened a little door to get hot air
Speaker 3: coming off for the manifold. It was a two door
Speaker 3: sedan and that would have been in the in the
Speaker 3: in the very early middle forties. And then he went
Speaker 3: and got him a Ford, like a forty six or
Speaker 3: forty seven Forward with the fast sedan with the curve back.
Speaker 3: And so that's that's my memory recall on cars.
Speaker 2: What's what's the newest car you've ever purchased?
Speaker 3: Uh? I don't think I've ever purchased a new car.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: We we have a uh what I want to say,
Speaker 3: We have a s UV whatever the wife drives all
Speaker 3: the time. And yeah, I don't even write it. Well
Speaker 3: it see, you know I got a I got a
Speaker 3: two thousand and seven Ford pickup plane as you can be,
Speaker 3: two wheel drive, air conditioning and everything, and I'm so content.
Speaker 3: I had to mentally now think about I've always drove
Speaker 3: a four wheel drive pickup in my career, and now
Speaker 3: I ended up getting a two wheel drive Forward two
Speaker 3: thousand and seven with less than eighty thousand miles on it.
Speaker 2: Bill bigs you Bill, how big is the farm? How
Speaker 2: big is the farm? Bill?
Speaker 3: Right now? We got two hundred and forty acres, but
Speaker 3: at one time I was farming a thousand acres aground
Speaker 3: and one hundred and eighty stockhows.
Speaker 2: And what are you what are you growing out there
Speaker 2: this year?
Speaker 3: Corn and bean corn?
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, corn and beans.
Speaker 3: And the cow money is unimaginable, is so high, the
Speaker 3: cow calf operation is unimaginable. What's happened to our career
Speaker 3: in agriculture? And we plowed up all our our pastures
Speaker 3: we went to farming them. And I still have my
Speaker 3: home farm at two hundred and forty acres that I
Speaker 3: ran out row crop to one guy and I ran
Speaker 3: out the other to pasture and cows. And I'm content
Speaker 3: it's gonna be. I still are involved in some sort
Speaker 3: of form of agriculture today.
Speaker 2: And you've and you've still got your thirty eight Chevy
Speaker 2: which gives you the opportunity to tinker and play and
Speaker 2: do your thing. And a Bill, I tell you you
Speaker 2: you are you are one in a million, my friend.
Speaker 2: It's always good to hear from you, and I enjoy
Speaker 2: I enjoy your looks back and how it relates to
Speaker 2: things mechanical as well as everything else. You'd be well,
Speaker 2: have a great rest of the day. Bill I'm running
Speaker 2: any and the car doctor. We'll return right after this run.
Speaker 4: Keep you right.
Speaker 2: By the way. Who's taking the band on vacation? Tom
Speaker 2: me you I'm not taking them anywhere. I'm not taking
Speaker 2: them any job. I don't want them. Have you told
Speaker 2: them no? Okay? Well I guess they know now, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah. Let's let's go to John in California. John,
Speaker 2: how are you today, my friend? What's going on?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 4: Ron?
Speaker 5: Well, five weeks ago or so, I think I called
Speaker 5: you about my twenty twenty Silverado at the five to
Speaker 5: three V eight and I had I had placed some
Speaker 5: what I think was what I thought was bad gas
Speaker 5: for my two thousand and three Silverados, that the rats
Speaker 5: had showed some holes into the fuel lines into the
Speaker 5: tank I'd collected. It was dripping pretty good and driving along.
Speaker 5: It conked down me flatbedded into the mechanic. We put
Speaker 5: on the lift. He dropped the tank to clean it out.
Speaker 5: That's what we thought it.
Speaker 2: Was, right, this was the fuel bit. Let's back up
Speaker 2: a second, John, This was the car that was Was
Speaker 2: it the twenty twenty that the animals had chewed the
Speaker 2: fuel line or it was a different vehicle?
Speaker 5: Well, it was the two thousand and three that the
Speaker 5: animals had chewed the fuel lining. But I put that
Speaker 5: gas into the twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Right, and we thought they had locked up. Right. We
Speaker 2: thought the gas from the We thought the gas from
Speaker 2: the three caused the engine in the twenty to lock up.
Speaker 5: That's right, Okay, that's the think you it was to
Speaker 5: go ahead. Yeah. So now it's been sitting there and
Speaker 5: you know, they get to it when they can type
Speaker 5: of thing. It's kind of a high volume shop. It's
Speaker 5: up on the lift and they started taking it apart
Speaker 5: to essentially bench the engine. I guess to see what
Speaker 5: was going on. All of a sudden it's unlocked. They
Speaker 5: you know, keep they go back and forth every once
Speaker 5: in a while to see what if it right miraculously
Speaker 5: would unlock, and it did. So now the question is
Speaker 5: we're did we go what what they've done is they've
Speaker 5: taken out the radiator and he said he took off
Speaker 5: one exhaust manifold. He took off the intake manifold, which
Speaker 5: would expose the fuel injectors. Right, because this is a
Speaker 5: GD I well.
Speaker 2: Went back up a second. Did they put a wrench,
Speaker 2: a socket and ratchet on the front of the motor
Speaker 2: and try turning it by.
Speaker 5: Hand, yes, suple times and finally it freed.
Speaker 2: And finally it freed because it was it was it
Speaker 2: was locked right.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, we had put a bunch of penetrating around
Speaker 5: the cylinders, Marvel, misterio, things like that, and finally it
Speaker 5: had it's it's free.
Speaker 2: When they when they when they took the spark plugs
Speaker 2: out to put whatever they were going to put in cylinders,
Speaker 2: did they do all the spark plugs? Did they do
Speaker 2: some of the spark plugs all of them? Okay? And
Speaker 2: no liquid came.
Speaker 5: Out, No liquid came out.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: Then the answer is if if your question is what
Speaker 2: to do next, you're you're doing one of two things.
Speaker 2: If you put this together or when it was when
Speaker 2: it was more together, did you start it?
Speaker 5: Was it?
Speaker 2: Were you able to run this?
Speaker 5: Well? It was a crank, no start. And then they
Speaker 5: did the fuel tank.
Speaker 2: No, it was it was a no crank, no start.
Speaker 5: Oh, was a crank you could crank it. And then
Speaker 5: all of a sudden after they after it sat there
Speaker 5: for about a week, whether they're waiting for parts, it
Speaker 5: locked up for some reason. So it never was hot
Speaker 5: or anything like that. It was just it just locked
Speaker 5: up after they tried cranking it in the shop.
Speaker 2: This engine was mechanically locked. They put a they put
Speaker 2: a ratchet and a breaker bar or a ratchet in
Speaker 2: a socket on the front of the motor, and this
Speaker 2: engine was locked. That's right, okay, and then it mysteriously unlocked.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: I don't buy it. I'm just saying, I just don't
Speaker 2: buy it, brother, you know, so it's in my mind,
Speaker 2: would it do you think it had run? Right now? Well?
Speaker 3: I told him.
Speaker 5: He wants to talk to me on my but I
Speaker 5: told them, I said, why don't we clean the injectors
Speaker 5: or somehow have them going through?
Speaker 2: Whymen, why don't we just put it together?
Speaker 3: We can?
Speaker 2: Why don't we just put it together and see if
Speaker 2: it runs?
Speaker 5: We can? Yep, we can.
Speaker 2: And if it runs and it's quiet, then maybe we
Speaker 2: can talk about, you know, what possibly failed. You know,
Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of in this situation
Speaker 2: is without getting into you know, did something happen in
Speaker 2: the trans cause the engine to lock up? And I've
Speaker 2: seen that in my career. I've seen bad torque converters,
Speaker 2: I've seen trans problems create engine problems. I've been down
Speaker 2: that road, but I'm trying to keep it simple. Did
Speaker 2: we did we have an injector pe fuel for lack
Speaker 2: of a better way to put it, and it just
Speaker 2: locked the cylinder hydrostatic lock possible?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I thought going through them.
Speaker 2: If well, but will you actually see it? And there's
Speaker 2: the question which one do you want to see? Do
Speaker 2: you want to take them all apart? Or you know,
Speaker 2: if you're closer to putting it together and seeing it run,
Speaker 2: because the only other the only other option is are
Speaker 2: you really going to take out all eight injectors and
Speaker 2: go I see nothing, they flow good, they're fine, and
Speaker 2: then put it together.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm nutty enough to say yes.
Speaker 2: But would you be more inclined to take the engine
Speaker 2: apart the rest of the way?
Speaker 5: Now you're getting into some heavy duty.
Speaker 2: Well right, yeah, so don't we don't we want to
Speaker 2: know if this runs? What if you what if you
Speaker 2: stop what you're doing, put it together, and you're it
Speaker 2: runs and it's got a rod knock?
Speaker 5: Well, then yeah, okay, you got a.
Speaker 2: Right, you got a problem. So so are we? You know,
Speaker 2: this reminds me of the story Coach Holtz. Lou Holtz
Speaker 2: tells in his book you know Lou Holtz, the coach
Speaker 2: from Notre Dame, and he tells a story about growing
Speaker 2: up in Ohio and him and his buddies. They would
Speaker 2: swim across the river to the other side. They get
Speaker 2: at the Kentucky and whoever was last would have to
Speaker 2: walk back and get the car, so the others didn't.
Speaker 2: And him and his buddies they start out and he
Speaker 2: always he always happy to go and bring this one
Speaker 2: guy along because he knew he could beat that guy.
Speaker 2: They get three quarters of the way across and the
Speaker 2: guy's like, I can't make it. I got to turn back,
Speaker 2: And Colcholt says, you know, we're closer to this shore
Speaker 2: than we are to that shore. Why don't you just
Speaker 2: keep going? And that's that's what I'm saying to you.
Speaker 2: Are you closer, are you closer to getting it started
Speaker 2: or are you closer to taking the engine out of
Speaker 2: the car in terms of man hours? To which direction
Speaker 2: do you want to go?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're closer to getting get started, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: So if you're closer to getting it to the point
Speaker 2: where you could start it, start it. Yeah, Okay, the
Speaker 2: damage is done, right theoretically, whatever happened happened. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 2: but you know, the damage is done. And then what
Speaker 2: I would do is I would look at vitals, fuel trim,
Speaker 2: misfire rate. I would pay very careful attention to mode
Speaker 2: six data. Mode six is going to be the information
Speaker 2: before the problem happens. All right, I'd be in the
Speaker 2: back of my mind. Remember this phrase, cars whisper then
Speaker 2: they scream. You know what sort of information can we
Speaker 2: get from a scan tool? Can we get on the
Speaker 2: OBD two side? Can we get on the manufacturer side
Speaker 2: that will tell us, Hey, this cylinder is a problem.
Speaker 2: Maybe number seven injectors P and fuel and eventually it's
Speaker 2: gonna you know, eventually it's going to create a lock
Speaker 2: on the cylinder. But if you go to crank it
Speaker 2: and halfway through trying to crank it and start it,
Speaker 2: it locks up and it comes to a screech and halt. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you've got to think go back to the original cause. Right,
Speaker 2: let's say it was bad fuel. By the way, did
Speaker 2: the three run when you parked it before the animals
Speaker 2: got to it?
Speaker 5: Run's fine? Yeah, run round good? Then it runs fine.
Speaker 2: Now, so theoretically, the fuel that came out of the tank.
Speaker 2: You only took out of the tank because you didn't
Speaker 2: want it to drain on the ground.
Speaker 5: That's correct, right, And.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you didn't. You know. This isn't like if
Speaker 2: the fuel ran out of the tank and there was
Speaker 2: undercoating and dirt and debris. You didn't put dirty gas
Speaker 2: in your tank. You're not You're smart, you know, right,
Speaker 2: you can dial a phone. You possess common sense, right,
Speaker 2: So I think you're so close. You're so close, John,
Speaker 2: I say, put it together. Be aware, right, you know
Speaker 2: you got a fifty to fifty shot here, So take
Speaker 2: your gamble, toss a coin. I say, put it together.
Speaker 2: And if it runs great and runs fine, and you
Speaker 2: can't prove anything Mode six, you can't prove anything misfired data.
Speaker 2: You can't prove anything wrong with this engine, which I
Speaker 2: don't think is going to be the case. I run
Speaker 2: a couple of bottles of fuel system cleaner through the
Speaker 2: tank over time. Did we pick up something crummy in
Speaker 2: the fuel? Did we pick up a sticking injector? Did
Speaker 2: we cause an injector to stick? And watch it? But
Speaker 2: I think because when it's not injectors, when you flow
Speaker 2: the engectors and find out. Hey, the injectors flow fine
Speaker 2: and there's no issues. Where do you go next? Then
Speaker 2: do you put it together? You're closer to the other shore.
Speaker 2: It's a longer swim back. Let's put it together and
Speaker 2: see it run. Call me let me know, ay five five, five,
Speaker 2: six nine nine zero zero, I'm running any of the
Speaker 2: car doctor, I'll be back right after this. Hey, cruising
Speaker 2: along this hour, Let's go over to Let's go to
Speaker 2: ed eleven hond a pilot. Uh oh ed, what happened here?
Speaker 4: Good afternoon, Ron, and thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 2: You're welcome, sir.
Speaker 4: My daughter was driving home from Worwick the other day
Speaker 4: and the kay just dies in the middle of the road.
Speaker 4: Long story shot. We had a towed to a shop
Speaker 4: in the timing belt shredded. Okay, So now we're looking
Speaker 4: for an engine. Can you recommend a reputable place to
Speaker 4: purchase an engine?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you it's really I can. But let
Speaker 2: me just tell you this. Let me just tell you
Speaker 2: my thoughts. It's amazing how hard it is to get
Speaker 2: a replacement engine for a Japanese vehicle, Honda's in particular,
Speaker 2: unless you're buying it right out of Honda, and if
Speaker 2: you buy it right out of Honda, I've seen five
Speaker 2: to eight thousand dollars for replacement engines. It's crazy. And
Speaker 2: I've been told that the reason a lot of Hondas
Speaker 2: don't get rebuilt out in the field is because of
Speaker 2: the complexity of the cylinder heads alone, the valve train,
Speaker 2: all sorts of special tooling to you know, seal the valves,
Speaker 2: do the valves, repair the heads. You've really got to
Speaker 2: be doing Honda's or nothing else. I'm told by a
Speaker 2: lot of the engine builders. Is that true. I haven't
Speaker 2: looked at it lately, but that was the original story
Speaker 2: I used to hear over time.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you, how long should a timing belt last?
Speaker 4: He had it replaced almost duty thousand miles ago.
Speaker 2: It's not long enough.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was replaced with OEM Honda Potts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's more to this story. Something's not right.
Speaker 4: The shop that is working on it now claims that
Speaker 4: whoever did it prior did not do it because he
Speaker 4: said he can tell that the water pump was not touched.
Speaker 4: The tensioner. The Yeah, the tensioner was not replaced, but
Speaker 4: I mean it's he said he said.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, right, is anything seized or bound up or.
Speaker 4: Well, he put a new belt in, it started up,
Speaker 4: and of course it's making a hell of a clanging
Speaker 4: noise because the valves are hitting the cylinders.
Speaker 2: Hit right, the valve.
Speaker 4: It bent the valve, yeah, hit pistons.
Speaker 2: So yep.
Speaker 4: He shut it right off and says, you got to
Speaker 4: get an engine.
Speaker 2: Have you Have you talked back to the other shop.
Speaker 4: Well, my daughter sent a picture of the belt and
Speaker 4: told him, you know, FYI shouldn't this last longer than
Speaker 4: thirty thousand miles? And he hasn't responded yet. And that
Speaker 4: was a week ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And how long ago was thirty thousand miles? Within
Speaker 2: a year, two.
Speaker 4: Years, about a year and a half.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's just not long enough. Right now,
Speaker 2: I'm going to say this, I can't say it's workmanship
Speaker 2: because if the belt, you know, if the belt was
Speaker 2: put on him properly, it would have failed a lot
Speaker 2: sooner than a year and a half and thirty thousand miles.
Speaker 2: So the burden of proof comes down to, you know,
Speaker 2: if he forgot to tighten the tension or bolt, if
Speaker 2: you forgot to tighten any bolt, if he you'd see
Speaker 2: it in two weeks, right you know. So now the
Speaker 2: burden of proof is is that a replacement? You know,
Speaker 2: did they replace parts? And you know you can tell
Speaker 2: if the thirty thousand miles that that water pump is
Speaker 2: going to be shinier aluminum than the rest of the
Speaker 2: head than the rest of the block. You know, you
Speaker 2: may not see it in the belt, but you'll see
Speaker 2: it in the pump. You'll see it in the tensioners
Speaker 2: and such. So you know, how well did she know
Speaker 2: the other shop? Does she have any recourse? That's a
Speaker 2: conversation you have to have with this guy. The fact
Speaker 2: that he hasn't gotten back to you unfortunately, that might
Speaker 2: be your answer.
Speaker 4: There's a place the shop is her in law's best friend.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Never never never do listen, Never do business with friends
Speaker 2: and family. It just changes money, changes relationships. It does.
Speaker 2: So do this real quick. Let me let me tell
Speaker 2: you this. So there's a place in New Jersey. I've
Speaker 2: never used them, but I hear good things about them.
Speaker 2: I believe it's JDM Engines. Go out in Google search
Speaker 2: used Honda Engines. They deal with Honda Toyota. Some of
Speaker 2: the major Japanese cars, and they seem to have a
Speaker 2: pretty good rep. They seem to have quite an inventory.
Speaker 2: You can call them up and talk to him, and
Speaker 2: I think you'll find what you're looking for there. And
Speaker 2: you know, if they don't, if they don't have what
Speaker 2: you want, then wherever you get it from, just ask
Speaker 2: what's the guarantee and can they verify the mileage and
Speaker 2: so forth, and then work your way backwards from that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to hear it, ed. I wish you all
Speaker 2: the best. I'm ronnin Ai and the car Doctor. We'll
Speaker 2: be back right after this. Hey, So I want to
Speaker 2: leave them with these parting thoughts. You know, we were
Speaker 2: talking about this this week in the shop. If you
Speaker 2: if you go out to our Facebook page or Instagram
Speaker 2: at Ron and Inian, you'll see we posted a video
Speaker 2: this week of a Toyota presented for repair and service
Speaker 2: and the inside of the car has mold in it.
Speaker 2: And you got to watch the video and understand what
Speaker 2: it's saying and where is the obligation of the repair shop.
Speaker 2: Where is that line? Where is that moment where the
Speaker 2: shop says, I'm not working on this because it's a hazard.
Speaker 2: It's a hazard to our health. I got in that
Speaker 2: car and I drove it from out in front of
Speaker 2: the shop into the parking lot, and my lungs were burning.
Speaker 2: It was almost like I was standing in the middle
Speaker 2: of a forest fire, the way you know you smoke inhalation,
Speaker 2: that burning sensation. I think we've got to face the
Speaker 2: fact that, you know what, and we need to talk
Speaker 2: about this from the perspective of there's an obligation on
Speaker 2: the consumer to present a vehicle in some kind of
Speaker 2: condition for repair. It's got to have gas in it, right.
Speaker 2: We talked about that last week. You got to stop
Speaker 2: bringing cars in on E. You got to stop bringing
Speaker 2: cars in on E because if you're a chronic drive
Speaker 2: the car down to E kind of person, you've got
Speaker 2: to understand, don't be surprised when at sixty or seventy
Speaker 2: thousand miles way shorter than normal lifespan, your mechanics says, hey,
Speaker 2: you need a fuel pump because the pump burned up
Speaker 2: from excessive heat. Because that's what fuel does. Got to
Speaker 2: bring a car in with fuel. You got to bring
Speaker 2: in a car clean enough that somebody could lay on
Speaker 2: the floor and change a cabin filter or ride around
Speaker 2: in it without getting a hazard to their health. I'm
Speaker 2: ronning any in the car doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive,
Speaker 2: they're priceless.
Speaker 4: See hey, he's a car doctor.
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