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Speaker 1: No, my mother was very supportive. She used to drive

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Speaker 1: I'm so proud of my daughter's. My youngest daughter works

436
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Speaker 1: at Lionsgate. She's in a television department. She's married for

437
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Speaker 1: almost two years now. My oldest daughter is a literary

438
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Speaker 1: and talent manager Easter Ray's Color Creative and she was

439
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Speaker 1: one of the producers on one of them days. And

440
00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 1: she's she's in business school at UCLA Interest In School

441
00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:14,600
Speaker 1: of Business.

442
00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:15,520
Speaker 3: So that is amazing.

443
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Speaker 1: And they run with the kids. They run our family

444
00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,719
Speaker 1: businesses and they're doing their own thing. They like behind,

445
00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,520
Speaker 1: they like the industry, but they want to be on

446
00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,840
Speaker 1: the other side. Right, I'm happy with that. They've seen

447
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,159
Speaker 1: me suffer enough. You feel like I've suffered. Yes, I mean,

448
00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,119
Speaker 1: like I said, I've had great moments, but I've had

449
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Speaker 1: a lot of you know, moments that could have been better.

450
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Speaker 2: Sure, right when you see like everybody you know talking

451
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Speaker 2: about I feel like it's just a time that where

452
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Speaker 2: I feel like people are able to open up more

453
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Speaker 2: about what their experiences have been like.

454
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Speaker 3: And I've seen that a lot more.

455
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Speaker 1: I think you do yourself a disservice if you don't

456
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Speaker 1: be honest with yourself. First look at that mirror and

457
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:57,920
Speaker 1: it is what it is, and be okay with it.

458
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Speaker 1: That doesn't define who I am or even who I

459
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Speaker 1: was at that moment, but it's all a part of

460
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Speaker 1: who I am now right. It makes you even better

461
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Speaker 1: and stronger, so you know you got to it is

462
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Speaker 1: what it is. Have you done a book? I currently

463
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Speaker 1: am working on stuff said that.

464
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Speaker 2: Now because I just feel like I would love to

465
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Speaker 2: see what that's, what that's going to be like, because

466
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Speaker 2: I feel like there's.

467
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Speaker 1: So many and everything's ready. I'll call you and you

468
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Speaker 1: can have me back on how about that?

469
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Speaker 2: Listen, I need to get like an advanced copy beforehand,

470
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 2: so I care we'll have all that ready.

471
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Speaker 3: What made you decide that now is the time?

472
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Speaker 2: Because I always think it's interesting when we decide, okay,

473
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Speaker 2: it's time to tell my story.

474
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Speaker 1: Actually, it's something I've been working on for years and

475
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't right, and I stopped, and I had I

476
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Speaker 1: even went through editing, and something was still missing for me.

477
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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to tell the premise of the book,

478
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Speaker 1: but I'll say this, it wasn't until I figured out

479
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 1: what I really wanted to say and what my point

480
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 1: of view was and who I was writing it for.

481
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Speaker 1: And if they are the only people that read it,

482
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Speaker 1: then I've accomplished my goal. Hopefully other people will be

483
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Speaker 1: interested because of what's in it. But it just I've

484
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 1: been working on this book for it's almost embarrassing to say,

485
00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 1: like fifteen years.

486
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 2: I don't think that's embarrassing. I feel like I've heard

487
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 2: people say they've written their books too early.

488
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't ready because I also, I wasn't

489
00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,640
Speaker 1: doing it for me. I was doing it because people

490
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,240
Speaker 1: said you should write a book, you should write a book.

491
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 1: So I sat down and I started doing it. But

492
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Speaker 1: then as I read it, it was good, but it's like,

493
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Speaker 1: but what am I really trying to say? What does

494
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Speaker 1: it really want? Then I went through an editing phase

495
00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 1: and it was like then I stopped, and then I

496
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: started listening to every audio book I could, you know,

497
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Speaker 1: to see what I was missing other people had. But

498
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Speaker 1: it wasn't until earlier this year that it hit me.

499
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Speaker 1: And now I ferociously I'm trying to get everything back

500
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Speaker 1: and we're finishing it.

501
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Speaker 3: Oh that's great, That's what I'm saying.

502
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Speaker 2: I do think timing is everything, yes, and the conversations

503
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Speaker 2: that you can have, like you know, with your.

504
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Speaker 1: I can't believe I just toold you that because I

505
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,360
Speaker 1: said I'm going to tell anybody anything, and I never

506
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Speaker 1: I've not been talking about this. You made me tell

507
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Speaker 1: my secret.

508
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Speaker 2: Now that's good though, because do you know how many

509
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 2: people did you do it?

510
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: You did a deal.

511
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 3: Oh, you have a literary agent in the family.

512
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: So I ain't going through her.

513
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,719
Speaker 3: That's hilarious.

514
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: Did you talk to them about it? Because I know, No,

515
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Speaker 2: I can't.

516
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't share with them, okay, because they're

517
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 1: involved too much.

518
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Speaker 3: Right now, I was gonna say, I know, they don't

519
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Speaker 3: even know.

520
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 1: They don't even know. They just come into the house

521
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 1: because they drop their dogs off like it's doggy daycare.

522
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 1: So in the morning when they both on the way

523
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: to work, they drop the dogs off. They just know

524
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 1: I'm up early in the morning working in my room,

525
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 1: so they don't they have no idea what I'm doing.

526
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Speaker 1: So I hope they don't hear this interview.

527
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 2: Well I hope they do, because I hope everyone hears

528
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 2: it but them about that. What are some things that

529
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Speaker 2: you feel like you still need to do, because I know,

530
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 2: like cooking is big for you. I know, like you said,

531
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Speaker 2: producing a directing.

532
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I need to direct more, you know,

533
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Speaker 1: I want to direct more. There's a lot of things

534
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: that that I just want to some stories that you

535
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 1: want stories I want to tell or help tell. Of course,

536
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Speaker 1: I just love any great acting brot. I want to

537
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Speaker 1: go back on broad I knew it. Okay, that's what

538
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: I want to go. But it's got to be something

539
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: more substantial. Because what I was here doing prole he

540
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: was great. But I gotta leave my house. I was

541
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: here for like over six months, living in somebody else's apartment, right,

542
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, missing my family horribly because we're very close.

543
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 1: Although they would come and visit me, I was away

544
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: from everything I knew my dog, miss Ziggy terribly, you know.

545
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: So it's got to be something substantial that is worth

546
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: me leaving for. But I would do it at a heartbeat.

547
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: Anybody out there there's got a new broaways sure that's

548
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 1: looking for somebody like me. Oh gosh, I would do it. Yeah,

549
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: I would do it.

550
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Speaker 3: All right.

551
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate you for coming up here and just

552
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 2: sharing all this with me because I know you.

553
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: Got a busy pack schedule. But tell everybody watch Finnce Stables.

554
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this season two, but this is what

555
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: you gotta do. People, you gotta binge it. If you

556
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 1: haven't seen season two, please watch season one, turn it

557
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: on and let it go. I don't care if you

558
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: fall asleep and you get to go to the bathroom,

559
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: go to the grocery store. Just let it run it

560
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: all the way through.

561
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Speaker 2: You know, I had to go back and watch season

562
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Speaker 2: one because I feel like it's been a long time.

563
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll go back up. Watched season and then double

564
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: thumbs it at the end. Okay, Yeah, if you got

565
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 1: a double thumbs it and then watch season two after

566
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,199
Speaker 1: you watch season one and the same thing, do not

567
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: turn it off and then go back if you need

568
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: to go back and see stuff and double thumbs it.

569
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,679
Speaker 1: That helps Netflix decide if they want to give us

570
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: a season three, which I think we deserve because this

571
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,159
Speaker 1: season is funny. I think people are gonna love it.

572
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 1: Vince is brilliant. He really He's very brilliant and his

573
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 1: writing and his whole concept, this whole way of thinking.

574
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: He just has a different sense of humor, which I

575
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 1: find refreshing and great. It's not like your usual story

576
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: about a person that age, and it's not like it's

577
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 1: like the humor is there, but the seriousness is there,

578
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: the sarcasm, the satire, it's all there, and together it

579
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 1: just makes for a great style. It's a different style,

580
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 1: and I hate.

581
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 2: To compare anything to anything, but this is another show

582
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: that I loved Atlanta. It gives me that Atlanta vibe.

583
00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 2: And I only say that because it was such a

584
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 2: good show allome.

585
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,679
Speaker 1: It's funny though. It gives you that vibe, but it's

586
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: nothing like it's nothing like it, but it gives you that.

587
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,479
Speaker 3: But it gives you that vibe, yeah, which is not

588
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 3: it's a compliment.

589
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: So it's a compliment most definitely. But I don't want

590
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: people think that who hasn't seen it's like, oh, it's

591
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: like another land. No, it's nothing like it, but it

592
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: just gives you that. It's just like real. It's it's

593
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: just in the pocket.

594
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: This season is is very different from the last season,

595
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: Very different from last year.

596
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 1: Very different storyline, storyline, very different. Yeah, it's not as.

597
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: Fragmented like I felt like last season. It was a

598
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: lot of different things.

599
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 1: This is a through storyline. Yeah, yeah, it's very different.

600
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: All right, Well, tune in, but that's about to come

601
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 2: out and we already talked about it, so I cannot

602
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 2: wait to have you.

603
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: Now you're making me really you have to go back

604
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: and make it happen, you.

605
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 3: Know, what Sometimes you got to put it out out there.

606
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: You got to hold yourself acount because exactly going to

607
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: hold you a Canada.

608
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,480
Speaker 1: And I appreciate that although I've been working though.

609
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: I know you have, and you have these visions, and

610
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 2: I feel like you've already in vision.

611
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: I've already when you're this best selling.

612
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: That's why I know it's time, because I'm a vision.

613
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm seeing everything, Okay, my.

614
00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 3: Psychic for.

615
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,679
Speaker 2: All right, Vanessa Bell Calloway again, we talked about it,

616
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: but you gotta watch Vince Staples season two.

617
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 3: That starts on Friday. No, it starts tomorrow tomorrow.

618
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, the November sixth Thursday, that starts tomorrow.

619
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: I guess really after midnight you can really like do

620
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,920
Speaker 1: it mid because tomorrow's midnight, right, so you could do

621
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: it whatever.

622
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 3: Alright, period, it's on now, it's on that.

623
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 1: It's how about that?

624
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 3: All right?

625
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:21,959
Speaker 1: This way up