Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: I thought of a show for us on the way
Speaker 2: over you did, Yeah, I want to hear it. Yeah, broken, famous, famous,
Speaker 2: and broke.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're broken any more, but I'm broke,
Speaker 1: honestly broke as fuck. It sucks. I would rather and
Speaker 1: no one gets it.
Speaker 2: It's so hard because if I go and work at CVS,
Speaker 2: then everyone's gonna.
Speaker 1: You know, oh my god, Look, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm supposed to do anymore. And I
Speaker 1: just you're not gonna go work at CVS.
Speaker 2: I love CBS, though I got extra bags make me
Speaker 2: so happy. But no, I was just thinking, it just
Speaker 2: sucks to have people know who you are, and like
Speaker 2: being famous is hard enough, but at least those most
Speaker 2: people have money, I know, I mean you had money,
Speaker 2: you know what it's like.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what your situation
Speaker 1: is like now. Yeah, yeah, this industry is just they're
Speaker 1: so it's high, it's low. I can't.
Speaker 2: I haven't had filler or botox in two years because
Speaker 2: of the muzation. Yeah no, and I'm miserable and my
Speaker 2: neck is the thing that makes me the most miserable
Speaker 2: because you know those lines. I never had them before.
Speaker 1: No, wait, what lines? You know the things at pool?
Speaker 2: I have one nail on. It's a really fun day
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 1: I might have no I have. It's fine, I have
Speaker 1: like nail glue.
Speaker 2: But then I didn't bring my nails, and I've already
Speaker 2: gotten like almost gotten like three accidents on the right
Speaker 2: here because I was putting on a mask and then
Speaker 2: make up over my mask so that I would look
Speaker 2: not like I looked yesterday for Netflix. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: hide my hands. That's how I kind of normally do it.
Speaker 2: James knows. I'm always glueing on nails because I have
Speaker 2: no nail bed. It's like a little kid's nail bed,
Speaker 2: and they grow like they arch up.
Speaker 1: It's not like a.
Speaker 2: Deformity, but it it is kind of my mom our.
Speaker 2: Nails just grow like a ski jump. So look like
Speaker 2: I have a really short nail bed.
Speaker 1: One hair I don't want to grow. I got I
Speaker 1: got all that shit in my car. Do you want
Speaker 1: hair with at a lotto ticket attached to it? Like
Speaker 1: this is my life. We're kind of the same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like it's scary. So I glued them
Speaker 2: on yesterday for the for the reality show. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's twenty one. I'm not the boss of him anymore.
Speaker 2: I just don't want this life for him because because you.
Speaker 1: Know firsthand, but it could be different for him.
Speaker 2: I don't think reality I mean right now reality TV
Speaker 2: is the last two years has like completely.
Speaker 1: Ruined my life. Yes, I understand, and.
Speaker 2: I just don't want like, you know, why kiss say
Speaker 2: stupid stuff and they don't realize. Even yesterday they the
Speaker 2: kids are there's a girl, really pretty girl.
Speaker 1: She's a star. I mean, there's just no gutting around it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, like she is a star or she's gonna
Speaker 1: be a star.
Speaker 2: She she's gonna be a star. Like regard, she's like
Speaker 2: the Christian cavalry.
Speaker 1: I think, oh okay, but like.
Speaker 2: With blue eyes and like younger. But yes, so it's
Speaker 2: like he went to see our canyon. So he has
Speaker 2: all these friends, but on my time, he's seen the struggle,
Speaker 2: like he we've moved thirteen times in fifteen years.
Speaker 1: It seems that he had moved seventeen times.
Speaker 2: Why do you have to one up me or two
Speaker 2: up me? I mean too, are you on meds Now Mayan,
Speaker 2: What are you on meds right now?
Speaker 1: No? Why do you have any No? I do, but but.
Speaker 2: We could talk about I was kidding the Ambien's kicking
Speaker 2: in now. I'm so, I feel like I told James I,
Speaker 2: I feel like we're gonna interview each other, because that's
Speaker 2: how it always works out when I when I go
Speaker 2: on someone else's podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just like to I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 2: So, I'm like, we're going to talk. He's like, I
Speaker 2: think she's just gonna ask you questions. I don't think
Speaker 2: it works that way. He does my podcast with me.
Speaker 2: I just yell at him.
Speaker 1: So he's so handsome, he likes it. He's attractive, he's gay.
Speaker 1: They're all gay. All the cute ones are good ones.
Speaker 1: So what's going on with you? Where do I start?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Should we go back to our beginning? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do Okay, fine, okay. So I feel like the
Speaker 1: first time I met you, you were a bit we
Speaker 1: loved each other. Really the first time I Carlo, Yes,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I came up to the tape. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You came up and said hi to Eddie and totally
Speaker 2: ignored me, And you had that weird husband at the
Speaker 2: time with the big eyes.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so mean. I don't I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, he was nice, but you were like talking to
Speaker 2: Eddie like I didn't exist.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry because I'm not that
Speaker 1: he But you know, I knew him through high school
Speaker 1: on a date or some under your dated. I know
Speaker 1: him through high school. He dated my best friend. Where
Speaker 1: do you go to high school? Do you want Claire Prep? Okay,
Speaker 1: so all of my best friends went to Montclair. My
Speaker 1: brother went to Montclair. Oh doc, that was like a
Speaker 1: fun school. You guys went on a couple of dates.
Speaker 1: One date. But this is later on, right, So my
Speaker 1: best friend still to this day, her name's Jenny. Different
Speaker 1: Jenny dated him in high school or okay, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: I think they went to one of like the dances
Speaker 1: or proms. Like she totally was like all like goo
Speaker 1: eyes over him, and he like broke her heart. And
Speaker 1: then cut to years later. Do you remember do you
Speaker 1: remember that club the.
Speaker 2: Gem, the Gem? No, maybe I didn't left her at
Speaker 2: oh wait, okay, yeah, yeah, so the Gem wasn't born yet. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think we wait, we are.
Speaker 1: The damage you're a year older. But other than that,
Speaker 1: I thought you were younger than me. How old. I'm
Speaker 1: fifty one. I'll be fifty two in May, so I'm
Speaker 1: six months older than you. Yeah, but I thought you
Speaker 1: were like for some reason and this is like a
Speaker 1: good thing. And even like you're you don't have makeup
Speaker 1: on today you're sitting here. I thought you were way
Speaker 1: younger than me.
Speaker 2: Just because I act like a child and I have
Speaker 2: a high voice. Ever, I think it's my high voice
Speaker 2: because everyone always thinks that I'm younger.
Speaker 1: And I'm straight. I mean, I'm thinking, and then I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at your face from like since the moment
Speaker 1: I met you have I'll show you what I'm not
Speaker 1: looking at your face right now. I'll show you can
Speaker 1: rarely see me.
Speaker 2: Like we are the same person, Like I can't see ship.
Speaker 1: I think. Oh wait, wait, okay, wait, sorry, sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: just excited. Okay, So Eddie and I like reconnected because
Speaker 1: we had met through my friend in high school and
Speaker 1: all our friends went to school together whatever. At this
Speaker 1: like club on Melrose anyway, he was there and he
Speaker 1: somehow asked me out, and I was like, I shouldn't work, Okay,
Speaker 1: why why isn't Why am I the horror? Not?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: What I'm talking about him? Okay? And my I just
Speaker 1: remember saying yes because I was like, because I know
Speaker 1: you went out with you. Then he was interesting, we're
Speaker 1: bringing this together now.
Speaker 2: Well I told my kids that and they said absolutely
Speaker 2: not true. And they don't believe things that I tell them.
Speaker 2: I know are should be true because our dad doesn't
Speaker 2: ever tell them the truth.
Speaker 1: Male, we like full transparency, like this is it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to put the pieces together. So what
Speaker 1: it was? So I was scared to tell me about
Speaker 1: friend because I was like, oh my god, she was
Speaker 1: in love with him in high school and he broke
Speaker 1: her heart. Am I supposed to be that dick friend?
Speaker 1: And then like girl code not go out with them.
Speaker 1: So I did end up telling her and I was like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? And she's like, oh, I don't care.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We're in her twenties now, that was
Speaker 1: in high school. So hot. Sorry I listen, So you
Speaker 1: do really beautiful? Yeah exactly, And so we went on
Speaker 1: a date. He was like, oh, I mean he came
Speaker 1: and picked me up my apartment and he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you to Dre's. I remember telling my
Speaker 1: friends like, I don't know, yeah I was. It was
Speaker 1: like I was it on Sunset Boulevard. I just know
Speaker 1: my friends were like, oh, that's really on a soap
Speaker 1: opera already expensive? What soap was he on? About all
Speaker 1: of them?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I Young and the Restless and then Sunset.
Speaker 1: Each Oh was he not on Nino two? And oh
Speaker 1: maybe I know? Yeah, okay, okay. So I was so nervous,
Speaker 1: hadn't eaten all day, and like, okay, nervously in front
Speaker 1: of a guy at that age, like oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it gives me anxiety. So we have like
Speaker 1: a good table. We sat there, and the first thing
Speaker 1: he says to me is he's like, I'm not really hungry,
Speaker 1: are you do want to just get a drink? And
Speaker 1: I'm like, ouck, I didn't eat all damn starving, okay,
Speaker 1: but I didn't want to eat from of you. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm a yes person, so I'm like, yeah, that sounds great. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Cut to like three or four drinks later, I'm book
Speaker 1: and shit faced, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I felt like the combo wasn't great.
Speaker 1: Oh really, okay, I felt like he's we didn't He
Speaker 1: has a charm, very charming.
Speaker 2: It's like I always say to my my friends, like
Speaker 2: go over and pick up the kids or drop them
Speaker 2: off before when they were younger, and like, don't get
Speaker 2: charmed because they all all my gay friends. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure, and the kids have them too. So I'm like,
Speaker 2: don't give me your dad's.
Speaker 1: Face right now. I can. I like, I know, give
Speaker 1: me PTSD. You know what living in Calabasas says.
Speaker 2: I'm listening because I have goun in my mouth and
Speaker 2: missing teeth.
Speaker 1: It's really fun to be me right now.
Speaker 2: But no, I didn't think that going back to like
Speaker 2: the scene of the crime, Calabasas was going to be
Speaker 2: difficult because we've been getting along for years. I mean
Speaker 2: it's not been an issue. As the kids get older,
Speaker 2: they make their own decisions, right, I mean, we I
Speaker 2: did fight when I I will pick my battles. I
Speaker 2: tell the kids that's on you. But if it's something
Speaker 2: I will go to war for and then I know
Speaker 2: I will win. Like there was two things, and of
Speaker 2: course I won, and they were like, oh shit, don't
Speaker 2: mess with mom.
Speaker 1: But it's just the little stuff that teach me your ways.
Speaker 1: I'm just getting a check me a decade to fit
Speaker 1: to Oh wait, can I finish the story? Wait? Sorry, sorry, sorry,
Speaker 1: I get so easily distracted. I'll go from I'm trying
Speaker 1: to like, yeah, so anyway, there were four drinks. I'm
Speaker 1: totally wasted. He was charming, great, talked a lot about himself.
Speaker 1: I listened and kept drinking and then I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to go to the bathroom. And I walked
Speaker 1: and couldn't find the bathroom, and then I was like,
Speaker 1: I just remember. I ended up in the kitchen at
Speaker 1: Drays and this lovely like waiter back there held my
Speaker 1: hair and I puked in a pot. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm wan to okay.
Speaker 2: Well, our first state we had sex that it was
Speaker 2: really good, and I.
Speaker 1: Was that was one of the cards. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: came back to the table. We went home. He walked
Speaker 1: me up, he put me in my bed. I think
Speaker 1: he like literally kissed me on the list, which I
Speaker 1: was like, don't even kiss anywhere because I just right, yeah,
Speaker 1: total gentleman. He left. I did get that call like
Speaker 1: a week later, being like I think I have an
Speaker 1: audition for your dad, and I was wondering, word, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I met your brother.
Speaker 2: He was really nice. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 2: get along, but I mean he was like Eddy and
Speaker 2: he got along really really well. Yeah yeah, And so
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, so just story.
Speaker 1: That's a bitch, Okay.
Speaker 2: I'm like no, I'm like, stand where I the juxtaposition
Speaker 2: with like what I went through and what you went
Speaker 2: through at the same time.
Speaker 1: We have to opposite side.
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, okay.
Speaker 1: So Eddie then did and being the person I am,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I guess he is along on
Speaker 1: a second date with me. But of course I was like, hey, dad,
Speaker 1: I was like my friend Eddie like was Jenny's boyfriend
Speaker 1: in high school. He went to Montclair where Randy when
Speaker 1: it was all that.
Speaker 2: So any he's a good actor, like I mean, I will,
Speaker 2: I'll just know. I'm just.
Speaker 1: He's always been kind to me.
Speaker 2: He's kind and well, not to me always, but I
Speaker 2: understand that he is handsome, Like you can't get around it.
Speaker 1: He's like one of the host guys I've ever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like destined to do something on camera. He
Speaker 1: looks great, I.
Speaker 2: Guess, but I just I'm not here for like mann Arexi.
Speaker 2: I like when he's bigger, you know, I like, I
Speaker 2: don't hope and they're super skinny. Oh really, oh I
Speaker 2: bigger anyway, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I never saw him whatever. It was okay, So then
Speaker 1: came on one episode ended up doing your right senseit beach.
Speaker 1: I was like forgetting and he and my brother now
Speaker 1: it's all coming back right yeah, and it was all lovely.
Speaker 1: Then the next time I saw him was at the
Speaker 1: International TV and Film So I am so I apologize.
Speaker 1: I was telling my producer Chrissy earlier, I was like
Speaker 1: Brandy and I got along so well, like she was
Speaker 1: so oh great. But honestly, I'm sorry if I came
Speaker 1: across that way, because I'm anything but a bitch, Like
Speaker 1: I'm I probably just I get nervous and like to
Speaker 1: see people like, well, they know me, will remember me.
Speaker 1: So I went up to him. Probably not even people
Speaker 1: today that we were fifteen years ago. Whenever that was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even a bitch then.
Speaker 2: I'd never wanted to be. But I mean I choose,
Speaker 2: I choose to do the right thing and be nice.
Speaker 1: I could still see us talking sitting on that couch
Speaker 1: though I didn't sit down with you.
Speaker 2: I was standing at the bar and no Eddie was
Speaker 2: there sitting next to me. You came and said hi
Speaker 2: to him. I turned to say hi to you, and
Speaker 2: you completely ignored it.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm devastated. Yeah, okay, at least we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: Could no.
Speaker 2: I like this. I like this. And then the next
Speaker 2: time I saw you was in the elevator going to
Speaker 2: that Bruce Jenner thing.
Speaker 1: In that moment, you were so nice.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I have to be nice
Speaker 2: to her.
Speaker 1: Oh see, And this is what's funny. I remembered when
Speaker 1: we met. I was like, oh, I really like his wife. Good.
Speaker 1: He has a nice one. She's full, she's kind. Great.
Speaker 1: You thought I was a bitch, And then in the elevator,
Speaker 1: in my mind, I was nice because I remembered our history,
Speaker 1: thinking we liked each other, and I thought, oh, she
Speaker 1: does not like them. So it was like, flip, it's
Speaker 1: not I didn't. It's not that I don't like you.
Speaker 2: You I didn't have a good experience with you before that,
Speaker 2: but again, we all change. Yeah, yeah, I just didn't
Speaker 2: like obviously the situations I was in, we were in
Speaker 2: identical situations.
Speaker 1: On the literal. So we've never talked about this. But
Speaker 1: and I'm friends with Mary Joe.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 1: I do know that, and I but I didn't know
Speaker 1: if you guys were still friends, like, I know, since
Speaker 1: Dean and I like, because she and I like came
Speaker 1: around and everything was good and then it was it
Speaker 1: just like flip flop.
Speaker 2: You guys aren't good now though, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just moved to Canada, so I would. I would move
Speaker 2: to Canada honestly, I want to be here, Yeah, because
Speaker 2: of what's happening here.
Speaker 1: Oh because yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Mean Canada everyone's just nice, are they?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they pretend to be nice.
Speaker 2: I'll take it, pretend all day. But yeah, so we
Speaker 2: should probably get into that, right, Okay, So.
Speaker 1: I mean you were first, so you were you were
Speaker 1: the og.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's not a good thing to be first on.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So my husband cheated with a person on a movie set.
Speaker 1: He met TV. Movie they did, right, okay, and then
Speaker 1: you met TV exact same way, but the parallels were
Speaker 1: like wild, I was.
Speaker 2: The wife at home and and he cheated with his
Speaker 2: co star and Mary Joe was the wife at home. Yes,
Speaker 2: and you cheated with her husband, who cheated with you?
Speaker 1: I mean correct.
Speaker 2: I don't blame one a man, a man or the woman,
Speaker 2: but I blame both of them. I hate been like, oh,
Speaker 2: she stole your man, Like you can't still a man
Speaker 2: if he doesn't want to leave. Wait, thank you.
Speaker 1: So there was a lot of that like yeah, yeah, homewrecker,
Speaker 1: like like you stole my husband. Noah, I don't even
Speaker 1: know she said that. Other people were like you stole
Speaker 1: her husband. I mean it was the narrative for a
Speaker 1: couple of years straight, a couple of yeah, everyone brings
Speaker 1: it up and it's yeah. I was like, god, I'll
Speaker 1: take accountability for everything, Like I could have said no
Speaker 1: at any point, like you're married, you have kids, like oh,
Speaker 1: and I didn't. It takes two people. I don't believe
Speaker 1: you can steal a human. That's how everyone's like, don't
Speaker 1: you hate her for that?
Speaker 2: I'm like, I hate him because we had two beautiful
Speaker 2: little kids and that was his choice.
Speaker 1: I just got the hills same.
Speaker 2: It's hard to talk about it because it does like
Speaker 2: bring I'm sorry, No, it's okay, because that's obviously a conversation.
Speaker 1: We're going to have.
Speaker 2: But you know, the man isn't forced into getting hard
Speaker 2: and having.
Speaker 1: Sex with you. So I mean that's on him and
Speaker 1: it's in you. Yeah, yeah, it's that's on him. I
Speaker 1: just got that. Oh you're funny.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: It took me a second of process. Wow, I'm usually
Speaker 1: quicker than that one. But wait, So, originally did Mary
Speaker 1: Joe reach out to you? I believe so, I think so, right,
Speaker 1: Please I read it. I don't know. We've never none
Speaker 1: of us have talked about Mary Joe and I haven't
Speaker 1: talked about it.
Speaker 2: She was doing it. I think she was like the
Speaker 2: original podcaster and she was having me on this a
Speaker 2: long time ago. And I've had my podcast for fourteen years.
Speaker 1: Wait, I thought she was on your podcast.
Speaker 2: She had interested, she had, she's had a podcast for
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 1: She had it was one different incarnations, Yes, right, it
Speaker 1: was this one in Canada.
Speaker 2: I don't remember, Okay, but then I don't even remember
Speaker 2: how we ended up meeting up. But she then hooked
Speaker 2: me up with the skincare line to work for, and
Speaker 2: so over the years we've just always like looked out
Speaker 2: for each other, right, And so she's just been like, like,
Speaker 2: I have to move, but I don't know where I'm moving.
Speaker 2: She's trying to help me find a place. She's a
Speaker 2: good she's a good.
Speaker 1: Friend, and I love her.
Speaker 2: And it sucks what happened. He sucks what happened to me.
Speaker 2: But I don't think that it's your fault or it's leanceval.
Speaker 2: I think it's every everyone's fault. How I was handled
Speaker 2: after sucked because everything's in the public and it's hard
Speaker 2: enough to go through it privately.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I mean you got a lot of
Speaker 1: hate as well. I mean, you know, people are mean,
Speaker 1: and it was it was not fun.
Speaker 2: And now you're divorced, right, that's crazy and you have
Speaker 2: like twenty kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, goes around, comes around it, and you said that
Speaker 1: I don't but I'm just kidding. But I don't believe
Speaker 1: it happened to me.
Speaker 2: I don't want that, but you have a lot that
Speaker 2: for my kids, Like, I don't want them to have
Speaker 2: to go through another ever, because I know, I mean,
Speaker 2: divorce fox kids up.
Speaker 1: It really does. Yeah can And I don't know what
Speaker 1: your situation was like, but for us, like it got
Speaker 1: to the point where it was worse for the kids
Speaker 1: to see us together because we could no longer hide
Speaker 1: what was happening and the fights, and for so long
Speaker 1: I hit it from them the best I could. I
Speaker 1: lost my voice for doing it.
Speaker 2: If you have to leave a bad relationship, you have
Speaker 2: to leave.
Speaker 1: And I was like, the kids are saying I had.
Speaker 1: Some of my kids were like, mom, I just remember
Speaker 1: my daughter Hattie and especially like with girls, like, I'm like, oh, man, also,
Speaker 1: I don't even know how you do. She looked at
Speaker 1: me and she goes, I'm scared to talk to you
Speaker 1: about this if you're not ready. I go, what, baby?
Speaker 1: And she's like, have you ever considered what it would
Speaker 1: be like to be with someone else and not dad
Speaker 1: and get treated right? And I was like oh, and
Speaker 1: she was she loves her dad, it's not that, but
Speaker 1: she just saw and grants it. Look at me, I'm
Speaker 1: still covering, like I still have that thing protect me
Speaker 1: because that's the father and my children. So I mean,
Speaker 1: and he's an addict, so he was going through a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff, but a lot of it was taken
Speaker 1: down on me. And she saw that, and and I
Speaker 1: didn't like the person I was because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: raise strong humans and here I am just taking it
Speaker 1: and being like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and it's like,
Speaker 1: what am I doing? Right? So it was better for
Speaker 1: us to yeah, no, I mean I think no, I mean,
Speaker 1: but yes, he's cheated on me.
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I didn't know that. Oh that sucks, but
Speaker 2: I mean we kind of had to come in.
Speaker 1: Sorry. That was on my show, True Torri. It was
Speaker 1: like happening, and she and I had a conversation on
Speaker 1: the show, which actually ended up being a good conversation,
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think she has any will towards you at all,
Speaker 2: Like she doesn't say anything negative ever, and I and
Speaker 2: I told her I was coming to do your podcast.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh god, that's good, but then you have
Speaker 2: to do mine. I'm like I've been saying I will
Speaker 2: do her, but I'm moving and so I don't know
Speaker 2: where I'm going. I'm just it's been a hectic time
Speaker 2: with health issues and all the other shit on my plate.
Speaker 2: Right now, I'm just like, yes, for sure. So, I mean,
Speaker 2: you've been in Hollywood a long time now. I'm like,
Speaker 2: for like, your iconic Beverly Hills was like it's still
Speaker 2: like talked about and now you're here and you're like
Speaker 2: you've been through it, would you do it all the
Speaker 2: same again?
Speaker 1: Do you want to say that question for your podcast?
Speaker 2: When I because I feel like we're just gonna I
Speaker 2: feel like we're just interviewing each other kind of in
Speaker 2: a way, but.
Speaker 1: Not even interviewing, like like we get to talk like
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity. It's like I've actually always wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you about this, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's a good excuse. I may more fun nowt like
Speaker 1: having drinks and talking about it. But yeah, so I
Speaker 1: forgot the question. Okay, would I do it all again?
Speaker 1: Like just knowing the outcome? If you knew the outcome?
Speaker 1: Which part?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's I guess the affair in the first place,
Speaker 2: and marrying him.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, I think about that all the time.
Speaker 1: But if the journey had been different, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: my five kids, and those kids are my everything. So no,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change I wouldn't change the journey. I think
Speaker 1: we could have gone back and handled it better.
Speaker 2: Well, so there's that, but yeah, but the outcome, Yeah, listen,
Speaker 2: I did not want to get a divorce. I found
Speaker 2: out he cheated. I went to therapy with him, and
Speaker 2: then I found out there was other people, and then
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you're gone. I can't if it was
Speaker 2: one time, one person. People make mistakes. I don't think
Speaker 2: being an actor is natural, like to make out with people.
Speaker 2: It's not a natural thing. Not to be attracted to
Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, there's lights and cameras and we're exciting.
Speaker 1: You have to hide like some sort of mystry.
Speaker 2: If you're attracted at all, that's got to be fun.
Speaker 2: If you hate the person, not so fun, right, But
Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't think it's natural. And of
Speaker 2: course he's always the good looking guy who takes his
Speaker 2: shirt off and makes that with everyone on camera.
Speaker 1: That couldn't have been easy for you. Oh it sucked
Speaker 1: for years to see that. How long were you guys married?
Speaker 1: Eight years?
Speaker 2: Put together for thirteen?
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, oh I was. I would look up.
Speaker 1: I would this is like I.
Speaker 2: Would go online and go to wire images. That's all
Speaker 2: we have at the time, and just trying to find
Speaker 2: out who this person was.
Speaker 1: I still use it, but and just I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: is she tall? Is she short? And you know, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it didn't matter.
Speaker 2: They're all like I found out about many and they
Speaker 2: were all different shapes and sizes, and I had to
Speaker 2: come to the realization it wasn't me, it's him, because
Speaker 2: I mean I was doing I was being the best
Speaker 2: wife I could be. It broke my heart, and I
Speaker 2: think in a way, I still I'm still mad at
Speaker 2: him for taking my kids away half the time because
Speaker 2: I lost half their lives, right, and so I still
Speaker 2: hold a little resentment. And I mean, we get along fine,
Speaker 2: we spend holidays together, and it's I know.
Speaker 1: I see I mean obviously I'm a viewer as well,
Speaker 1: so like I see you on Instagram and everything, and
Speaker 1: it gave me hope. I know when we split, like
Speaker 1: co parenting can work out. Why did you guys splat
Speaker 1: June twenty twenty three. I was so soon. I took
Speaker 1: my decade just hanging out. I was.
Speaker 2: I was at war with them for ten years. I
Speaker 2: just it was horrible, but I never let the kids
Speaker 2: know it. I even went to therapy with them to
Speaker 2: stop having them triangulate the kids because they were getting
Speaker 2: caught in the middle. I'm like, this is our mess,
Speaker 2: don't fuck with up my babies, and they're like, you
Speaker 2: went and sat in therapy with Eddie and Leanne. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's great. I sure they did, because at that point
Speaker 2: my heart was broken and all I cared about was
Speaker 2: my kids, and it was it was really fun therapy.
Speaker 2: Actually I got to say so many things.
Speaker 1: Like cathartic, really like.
Speaker 2: But then I kept changing the therapist because the therapists
Speaker 2: kept agreeing with me. We had like three different therapists.
Speaker 1: Oh no, so they didn't find it fair. We're going
Speaker 1: to find someone else. Oh my god, Well, because you
Speaker 1: were right. But it's wild, like all I know are
Speaker 1: being really kind of with actors or people in the business.
Speaker 1: I don't know if a male actor can ever be
Speaker 1: not turned on. I know, no, I feel because it's
Speaker 1: also there's an ego that goes alongside it.
Speaker 2: Are athletes, actors and musicians are all.
Speaker 1: Like they can't be with an athlete musician. Yes, I
Speaker 1: haven't been with either. Should I add to my thelast
Speaker 1: single don't You're No?
Speaker 2: Wait? Like I just said, yeah, those three are off
Speaker 2: the table. You need like a banker, like someone who
Speaker 2: let you be. I have this theory there can only
Speaker 2: be one star in the relationship.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. My mom has said that before. See
Speaker 1: she was because she was my dad for your you know,
Speaker 1: and she was like, you got to know the Eddie
Speaker 1: was a star.
Speaker 2: I was happy to be at home make the food,
Speaker 2: and he wanted me to stop modeling.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I raised the kids, and I feel that's why I
Speaker 2: felt like.
Speaker 1: Wait, why do he want you to stop modeling? Couldn't
Speaker 1: you do both?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Because when you need to travel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like when I would be gone, he
Speaker 2: would be like, what are you doing. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: not doing what you were doing.
Speaker 1: But no, he just, you know, had she find out
Speaker 1: about others, so she asking to know. I don't care. Oh,
Speaker 1: I forgot about this. I watched this. Sorry.
Speaker 2: After the thing came out, then sena thing came out
Speaker 2: and she was like on Access Hollywood doing a sit
Speaker 2: down about how Eddie cheated on her with Leanne and
Speaker 2: I have a baby in diapers running around and I'm
Speaker 2: sitting there on my couch.
Speaker 1: That's how you found out, yes, from watching Access Hollywood.
Speaker 2: And I was like is this I literally was like
Speaker 2: I'm being punked.
Speaker 1: This cannot be raw. And that's when it was like
Speaker 1: I'm done.
Speaker 2: And then we Eddie and I had a conversation that
Speaker 2: he still says he never had with me that.
Speaker 1: He said, it's not you, it's me.
Speaker 2: I've always cheated from day one, and then it was
Speaker 2: just us having that conversation.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't forget women never free.
Speaker 2: And when I brought it back up, He's like, I
Speaker 2: never said that.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm like, okay, nothing against him, right, but
Speaker 1: I'm just husband for me. Wait, I am sure this
Speaker 1: has been out there, But how did you find out
Speaker 1: about Lianne?
Speaker 2: Or he told you it was No, it was on
Speaker 2: Perez Hilton and what I'm in, like the drives, like
Speaker 2: to drop off the kids at school we were leaving
Speaker 2: that day, or my best friend was marrying Bruce was
Speaker 2: and we're going to fly to Terce and Caicos or
Speaker 2: the wedding and the two of you.
Speaker 1: Yes, and she only invited fecause okay, and so she
Speaker 1: only invited four.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, it was like a private Oh okay, Demi
Speaker 2: and Ashton, me and Eddie and then Kristin and Josh
Speaker 2: are other friends.
Speaker 1: So that was an anxiety, what's going to happen here? Okay?
Speaker 2: Well, no, I I went because and Perez it had
Speaker 2: the cover of US Weekly. So I ran to the
Speaker 2: store and she's on the cover, says Leann's affair was
Speaker 2: a married man.
Speaker 1: Oh it didn't say who, Well, yeah I did, No,
Speaker 1: it did did How did he find out?
Speaker 2: He?
Speaker 1: You know how, you know how like.
Speaker 2: These taboys work, they reached out to you for a response.
Speaker 2: So he knew, and he chose not to give me
Speaker 2: any warning at all.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay, Eddie knew. Eddie knew. But so like
Speaker 1: how helplessis would say, like this is coming out.
Speaker 2: He didn't give me any heads up. So I'm hearing
Speaker 2: it from all the moms. And then I go home
Speaker 2: and then I see it like Perez, and then I
Speaker 2: go to the store. I get as quickly it's on
Speaker 2: the cover like this hole and there's like pictures and
Speaker 2: it's just.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I knew, I said pictures like someone
Speaker 1: got pictures of them. Yes, the person released it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, someone got a picture of them making out.
Speaker 1: It's very suss.
Speaker 2: I think she wanted it to come out so that
Speaker 2: she could have her man, because I don't think that
Speaker 2: he was trying to leave if he wasn't caught.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, it makes sense. Interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just said, listen, it's not about us,
Speaker 2: it's about my best friend just getting married and we're
Speaker 2: not talking about this. I don't know how I did it.
Speaker 2: I was way stronger back then, and we didn't and
Speaker 2: I had the time of my life at that wedding.
Speaker 2: Did not give two fucks. I got sucked up.
Speaker 1: I deserve a lot of things. I didn't have sex
Speaker 1: with anyone. You have sex with him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean you kept feeling like the last time.
Speaker 1: I just I that and it was all that, like
Speaker 1: that last weekend jen Anison. It wait what it wasn't No,
Speaker 1: I can't. I forgot it wasn't.
Speaker 2: But because when we got back, he wouldn't move out
Speaker 2: of the house, so he moved into the guest room,
Speaker 2: and so then we would get in huge horrible fights.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have because it was his house? Okay yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Would he his? Was your house together? What was this thing?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: I paid for it, it's my house, I'm not moving
Speaker 1: But he did, okay all that to you? Oh okay? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Was he like you can move out?
Speaker 2: No, he just went to the guest room and put
Speaker 2: lock on the door. Because I did really want to
Speaker 2: kill him a couple of times. I mean I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you better lock that door, motherfucker. But then we get
Speaker 2: in fights and then we'd have sex, and.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, you have to leave, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: but that yeah, God, I've been there, and that makeup
Speaker 1: sex is really yeah, but.
Speaker 2: It's not even makeup sex because you know, it's like
Speaker 2: it's like torture sex, like yeah, that's fun.
Speaker 1: This is last time? Do I love you? You broke
Speaker 1: my heart? Why am I here? What's happening it? It
Speaker 1: almost feels like the first time sex again? No? Am
Speaker 1: I wrong here? I'm only associating it because when Dean
Speaker 1: cheated on me publicly, the only reason it came out
Speaker 1: is because the girl it happened with sold a story.
Speaker 1: It was coming out US Weekly. The week of Christmas.
Speaker 1: My publicist called and was like, heads up, we can't
Speaker 1: kill you. It's coming out. So I told him though,
Speaker 1: and then we had to, like that nightgo and he
Speaker 1: was like I don't remember that maybe, And we had
Speaker 1: to go to the kids Christmas performance and I was
Speaker 1: like knowing walking in, like people there were like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's Torri and Dean. Oh their kids are so cute
Speaker 1: and da da da da, And I was like him, No,
Speaker 1: I was like in two days, like the world's gonna know,
Speaker 1: because they were like, it's not going out for two days.
Speaker 1: It came out two days before Christmas. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I tried to get us into therapy because so the
Speaker 1: night it happened and we went to the Christmas thing,
Speaker 1: we came back, my best friend, who like gets paranoid
Speaker 1: about everything is she's like, he's like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: sleep in the other room. Obviously, like we weren't talking
Speaker 1: about things, just going on, gonna celebrate Christmas, kids are home,
Speaker 1: and she's like locked the bedroom door. I'm like, why
Speaker 1: is he going to hurt me? And he's going to
Speaker 1: kill me? And then she's just lock it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen. So I tried
Speaker 1: to get us into therapy and be like sos, doctor Waxler,
Speaker 1: like we got a problem here, and yeah, that's when
Speaker 1: he said he wanted to convince suicide. So we never
Speaker 1: even talked about the affair. She had to put him
Speaker 1: on a fifty one fifty and he's talked about I know, sorry,
Speaker 1: I know it's not an easy way out there. I've
Speaker 1: had so many friends that said that, and then we
Speaker 1: never dealt with.
Speaker 2: They say that they're a sex addict. That that I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: well that isn't that, you know, convenient. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that Deane wasn't messed up. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know him. I don't know him at all.
Speaker 1: I just remember that one time, like and then I
Speaker 1: threw myself into like, oh my gosh, the holidays. I'm
Speaker 1: here with the kids. Had you know, we just said dad's,
Speaker 1: dad's off healing and they're like, my son was seven
Speaker 1: at the time. He's like, oh, because of his anger issues.
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, and he's I can read at
Speaker 1: that point. That's why he was like, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: So he's at a hospital and I said, is it
Speaker 1: uc that. I was like yeah, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: say what it was for. And he goes, I hope
Speaker 1: they have surgery on him and they take out his
Speaker 1: anger and I was like, oh my god, but yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember going to visit him at UCLA and just like,
Speaker 1: are you okay? I forgot like repressed everything that he
Speaker 1: had just cheated on me. We had a fourteen month
Speaker 1: old and I'm like, oh my god, and are you okay?
Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Talk to all the doctors. But
Speaker 1: we did have sex in the bathroom at his room
Speaker 1: at UCLA and it was okay, and it was and
Speaker 1: the sex was really good. And I thought about it
Speaker 1: for a really long time, like what is wrong in me?
Speaker 2: You're punishing yourself that I yeah, I mean, that's just
Speaker 2: it's part of when you're in love with someone. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And like to this day, I haven't been in love
Speaker 2: like I was with Eddie and I don't think I
Speaker 2: will again. And hopefully no, No, I mean I've I've
Speaker 2: loved people that haven't been Like maybe true love the
Speaker 2: second time is totally different.
Speaker 1: You closed your heart up, So look what happened the
Speaker 1: first time. I mean I did.
Speaker 2: I had I've had relationships like a couple of a
Speaker 2: couple of years when I was like, I just I
Speaker 2: don't let anyone get that close.
Speaker 1: You know, it's who closed your heart up. It's hard to.
Speaker 2: Also didn't trust people because of the TV situation, and
Speaker 2: like guys that want to be on camera that scares me.
Speaker 2: That would scare me, right, So I wouldn't want to
Speaker 2: be on housewives ever. If I was a dude, I'd
Speaker 2: be like, let the ladyes fight it out and.
Speaker 1: They would want to when they when you were in
Speaker 1: that situation? Interesting, okay, and.
Speaker 2: That was always a red flag. Yeah, and that episode
Speaker 2: do you like me? Or do you like the fact
Speaker 2: that am I like a prize that you're like, Oh,
Speaker 2: it's like a fun trick like trick pony. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm dating that one girl and like I'm on TV
Speaker 2: look and not really into me?
Speaker 1: Or do you really like me? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: So it was just weird.
Speaker 2: I have trust issues, yes him, Yeah, as you should.
Speaker 1: Are you dating anyone now?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: With my health issues, I haven't. I want to do years. No,
Speaker 1: it's like celibate for two years.
Speaker 2: Not by choice, but yeah, because I just don't. I've
Speaker 2: I've lost my security in my looks, I'm so insecure.
Speaker 2: I isolate and god basses.
Speaker 1: I don't leave my house. I don't do a lot.
Speaker 2: I did shoot a music video and they did touch
Speaker 2: up my face with their digitizing thing because they were
Speaker 2: so nice.
Speaker 1: So can we talk about your face? Sure? So I
Speaker 1: don't know what I read online, So I'm not sure
Speaker 1: where you're at with it. So when did it start?
Speaker 2: So? I came back from Morocco in January two years ago.
Speaker 1: That was the Real Housewives Girls trip right that.
Speaker 2: Ruined my life. Six months later, I started to swell up.
Speaker 2: My face was swelling up, and it would swell in
Speaker 2: one sur oh no, and then go to the other side,
Speaker 2: and then it was I have pictures and then it
Speaker 2: would flip flop. So it seemed like there was something
Speaker 2: alive and they're moving around, so I'm like, there's got
Speaker 2: to be some parasite.
Speaker 1: I got like there's something which can happen. It can,
Speaker 1: but I.
Speaker 2: Don't believe it's parasite now. But we still don't have answers.
Speaker 2: It's been a lot of doctor's appointments and a lot
Speaker 2: of money and unfortunately we don't have answers yet. And
Speaker 2: I know there's a problem, Like my kids are, you know,
Speaker 2: they were like my head sometimes feels like there's so
Speaker 2: much pressure inside my head in my neck that it's
Speaker 2: going to explode. I have to constantly chew gum. That's
Speaker 2: why I'm cheating them now.
Speaker 1: I hate it.
Speaker 2: It keeps my head from exploding because the pressure it
Speaker 2: keeps it moving so that my limps actually drained because
Speaker 2: my ted chairs like it's like bursting bubbles. It's disgusting.
Speaker 2: But the problem is I have kaiser, that's my problem.
Speaker 2: And I went to probably a dozen thirteen doctors there
Speaker 2: and no well at all, and so I started, you know,
Speaker 2: paying out of pocket and and the midst of all
Speaker 2: of this, I'm not working. All my jobs canceled because
Speaker 2: of because you couldn't work. Well wait, the Caroline stuff, Well,
Speaker 2: the narrative when we got back from Morocco was I
Speaker 2: was fired for being appropriate with Caroline Mansow and I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was had I miss this one?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't know because it's ruined my life.
Speaker 2: But I got six six months later. But those six
Speaker 2: months I was in a feedt up position on my couch,
Speaker 2: like contemplating suicide, being called horrible things by It's so
Speaker 2: crazy that the press has so much power, like blogged
Speaker 2: these bloggers they went, they went from gave her lap dance,
Speaker 2: to kissed her unwantingly, to sexually harassed her, then to
Speaker 2: rape like this is how and there's like two thousand articles.
Speaker 2: And so I was supposed to go after Australia. I
Speaker 2: had all these jobs like that, and everything canceled and
Speaker 2: and it wasn't even I'm like, just wait for the
Speaker 2: show to air at least like come.
Speaker 1: On, I'm sorry. Yeah, so like a hustling mom and like.
Speaker 2: You're just like this right, And then I lost my
Speaker 2: looks at the same time because I was I literally
Speaker 2: at fifty one, started only fans because I did not.
Speaker 1: Have are you on? Only fans? I am?
Speaker 2: Because I didn't have income for six months and I
Speaker 2: was like going through my savings and so I started
Speaker 2: that I was making good money, and then my face
Speaker 2: started being crazy. So then I couldn't really even do
Speaker 2: that because they're like, Okay, we don't want any more
Speaker 2: pictures of your feet or your mask with you with
Speaker 2: a mask on, because I was trying to hide my face.
Speaker 1: So it just fee fund Yeah, I just do you
Speaker 1: have good feet? No, I have bunions, But people like them.
Speaker 1: It's weird, that's the thing they like that they are.
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: But so then it's just been a really tough tough time.
Speaker 1: And then now.
Speaker 2: Still not having a diagnosis.
Speaker 1: I imagine that's the hardest. Is I fear the unknown and.
Speaker 2: Just skidy frustration like something's But luckily some women have
Speaker 2: reached out to me on social media and they've had
Speaker 2: very very similar things happening to their face. And they've
Speaker 2: helped me so much to know what tests to ask for,
Speaker 2: know what, like you need to get a fungal panel
Speaker 2: because we had black mold poisoning a long time ago,
Speaker 2: so they think that could be part of this. Totally
Speaker 2: a fungal infection. Because we had it so bad, we
Speaker 2: got like a settlement from the landlord. And my son
Speaker 2: had it the worst. But luckily for them, they got.
Speaker 1: Money from it.
Speaker 2: Like you know, when Jake turns eighteen, ye'll have his
Speaker 2: little nest egg that Mason had, so it's good.
Speaker 1: We were supposed to do that, and I couldn't deal
Speaker 1: with the lawyers and going to all the doctors to
Speaker 1: get the proof.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't have insurance. I was like just buying
Speaker 2: everything on Amazon and sitting in my house like.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It's the worst. And I've never felt fully back from
Speaker 2: that point. But then if there's a I had a
Speaker 2: dental infection that no one knew about. It was under
Speaker 2: a bridge, and I kept telling my dentist, I'm like,
Speaker 2: there's something under there. It's really bothering me. He's like,
Speaker 2: we can see through it on the extra you're fine.
Speaker 2: And finally I took it out myself I got some
Speaker 2: yarn and some super flasks and I pulled it down
Speaker 2: and there was a completely rotted tooth. So and he
Speaker 2: told you this fine, and that bridge had been there
Speaker 2: for like ten years.
Speaker 1: So I don't I still I have.
Speaker 2: I think it was like a perfect storm of all
Speaker 2: shit things that happened and we still are figuring it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids are still not okay, some worse than others. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there took. It took. I don't know if you guys
Speaker 1: had this with the black mold, but like neurologically, there
Speaker 1: would be things well I can't I couldn't see. It
Speaker 1: would just be like a delay or small And they
Speaker 1: did this thing. We went to this not Easter medicine,
Speaker 1: but like, yeah, they did all this the studies and
Speaker 1: they'd deal with mold and it's for people, like they think.
Speaker 1: I was like walking a straight line and count from
Speaker 1: one to ten, and I'd be like, in my balance,
Speaker 1: I couldn't walk and count at the same time because
Speaker 1: my brain was trying to count. My other brain side
Speaker 1: of my brain was trying to walk straight. And the
Speaker 1: same thing were happening with my kids. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: was like we were all like my daughter would be like,
Speaker 1: were where's this on the counter? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I just told you, baby, And then it was right
Speaker 1: in front of her and I'd be like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I'd be like She's like, oh, I didn't even I
Speaker 1: can see it. Like every rental, I like, I'm still renting,
Speaker 1: but I have it same. I have it checked for
Speaker 1: black mold first, because we were so sick. Mason was
Speaker 1: really like the worst. He had anaphylaxis almost every day
Speaker 1: and or the school is like, oh, why are the
Speaker 1: kids always so sick? Are you just not getting them
Speaker 1: to school? That's that's how mine got checked out, is I.
Speaker 1: One of the schools was like, we need to do
Speaker 1: a zoom with the district and have like it was
Speaker 1: wild and I said and a friend, actually, Jenny Garth,
Speaker 1: said to me, you ever had your house check from Aldama?
Speaker 1: It's just rental And she's like, yeah, you're good check
Speaker 1: giving there. You have to check it. That's the reason
Speaker 1: I checked it. And then the school still didn't care,
Speaker 1: but like no, but it we got out like it's
Speaker 1: I could have gone a lot.
Speaker 2: Like people don't understand you like I could. I had
Speaker 2: the worst anxiety in my life. I didn't leave that
Speaker 2: condo that we were living in. I couldn't see my
Speaker 2: hair was falling out my I like, thank god. My
Speaker 2: friend from Miami came over and he's like, there was
Speaker 2: a leak in the ceiling. I ask the landlords to
Speaker 2: fix it, like twenty times. They left it for four
Speaker 2: months and he's like, you know what this game? Like,
Speaker 2: I go, I don't know, but it smells horrible. He's like,
Speaker 2: this is black mold. He's like, we have it everywhere
Speaker 2: in Flora, like you need. He's like, this is why
Speaker 2: you're feeling this way. This is why your skin is gray.
Speaker 2: This is why you look this way. And I had
Speaker 2: not felt one hundred since then. But we got out
Speaker 2: of there, you know, and I got a lawyer because
Speaker 2: we were all so sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have gone forward with it. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to deal with more trust lawyers right now,
Speaker 1: and it's lawyer than just like forget it and then
Speaker 1: going through a divorce at the same time. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so I let that one go.
Speaker 2: Sometimes just easier to say to get a lawyer do this.
Speaker 2: I'm like I did for that, but I'm like, all.
Speaker 1: It doesn't stress me out. Why why not just.
Speaker 2: Keep it moving and see what happened when I kept
Speaker 2: it moving.
Speaker 1: You want to be well, you want to be happy.
Speaker 1: You deserve that. But people online do tell you more.
Speaker 2: Because they've gone through this woman. I don't even know
Speaker 2: if it's the same thing. But would she say she
Speaker 2: thought she's she sent me this. It's Tricka trica minosis.
Speaker 2: I have a written down, but it's a fungal infection
Speaker 2: that her and thirty other women have in Boulder, Colorado,
Speaker 2: because they went to a doctor that gave them filler
Speaker 2: that was not like some bogus as filla.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: And so I'm like, well, even though everyone thought I
Speaker 2: was doing too much filler and they always commented on it,
Speaker 2: I wasn't like I had stopped, but my face I
Speaker 2: looking back, it was still growing. So I think probably
Speaker 2: the dental infection had a baby with the filler, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like the infection got into the
Speaker 2: filler and now there's a fungle.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just honestly want someone to open
Speaker 1: up my face and get rid of it. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: And you're working with doctor Dubrow or no, yes, I am.
Speaker 2: So he was speaking about me on TMC. So I
Speaker 2: reached out to him because I said, if you're going
Speaker 2: to talk about me, you might as well help me.
Speaker 1: It's fine, yeah, right, and like that's a nice guy.
Speaker 1: He's a nice guy.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately we haven't we haven't come to any He thought
Speaker 2: it was filler too.
Speaker 1: It's not filler.
Speaker 2: It's like it's not filler.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, it's a fungle. How do
Speaker 1: you find that?
Speaker 2: Though, Well, they have to test for it. The test, well,
Speaker 2: it's a culture they have to do.
Speaker 1: But he didn't.
Speaker 2: I thought he had done that.
Speaker 1: But he did not, so so they'd have to open
Speaker 1: up in your face to.
Speaker 2: Go in or well he took three biopsies, okay, so
Speaker 2: I thought we were testing for fungal.
Speaker 1: Again.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's so much more on the inside
Speaker 2: of my like inside of my mouth because all drains
Speaker 2: into my mouth, Like it might be better to go
Speaker 2: inside my mouth.
Speaker 1: And do it.
Speaker 2: So I'm seeing this new dentist and he's trying to
Speaker 2: help me. So I'm I'm like explaining all avenues because.
Speaker 1: The pressure and neck it's makes sense, but it's all
Speaker 1: adding up, like but it's getting worse.
Speaker 2: And like when when like an infectious disease doctor or
Speaker 2: that kaiser, like you're fine, you're not getting antibiotics, and like,
Speaker 2: I'm not here trying to get norco's. I need an
Speaker 2: antibiotic because I do feel better on antibiotics. And the
Speaker 2: one time I felt really good was that I had
Speaker 2: IVY antibiotics and an IVY fungal treatment. But I couldn't
Speaker 2: afford to keep it going because it was two thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a week and I was paying out a pocket
Speaker 2: and so I finished early, and because I looked normal again,
Speaker 2: I'm like, fucky, I'll just finish and I should have
Speaker 2: kept going. And now I just have to find a
Speaker 2: doctor to put me back on that.
Speaker 1: And it's just so what do people do. I'm just asking, like,
Speaker 1: if you don't have insurance or good insurance and you
Speaker 1: don't get see good doctors, like.
Speaker 2: That's all they care about is good fucking money. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't care what it costs. Like I had a rest,
Speaker 2: like I rescued this dog. I had a rescue tuala
Speaker 2: and that same vet for seven thousand dollars for a
Speaker 2: rattlesnake bite which I didn't have. But of course I'll
Speaker 2: find it. Yeah, I'll get another credit card to.
Speaker 1: Have a lot. Yeah, for our babies, for our for babies.
Speaker 1: Will do anything anything. I will pay for hair.
Speaker 2: That's like the one thing I cannot give up because
Speaker 2: when my hair's out, I do not feel good, like
Speaker 2: it's even It's like amplified by a hundred million.
Speaker 1: I understand that.
Speaker 2: I yeah, so most girls got it that don't that
Speaker 2: use have natural hair and use them a little bit
Speaker 2: of fluff on.
Speaker 1: Top of it. Mine's more than that. He's trying to
Speaker 1: you have a single coming out? Talk about one second.
Speaker 2: Okay, so we have music coming out myself and two
Speaker 2: Australian pop stars.
Speaker 1: They reached out to me.
Speaker 2: Well, one is my manager and my friend James. He's
Speaker 2: really famous in Australia.
Speaker 1: James, is this true? James is here on the.
Speaker 2: Side and he's handsome. And they asked you to do
Speaker 2: like a little a rap for the there a rap.
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't sing so, but I like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 2: So I wrote a up in it. It's actually really fun.
Speaker 2: My kid and I let my kids listen to it
Speaker 2: and they were mortified after they heard my first song
Speaker 2: because I did a rap song. It was just a joke,
Speaker 2: but they were like, not good, mom, but I still
Speaker 2: put it out. I didn't care.
Speaker 1: Our kids can be so judging, you know what. I
Speaker 1: like it like, but yes, they like, Mom, that's dank.
Speaker 1: That's all I hear now from teens means good. No
Speaker 1: dank to us. Yeah, my eighteen said the other day
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm still He's like, no, Mom,
Speaker 1: Jane means awesome. I'm like, okay, if I.
Speaker 2: Say anything that like with their lingo, they like. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's she liked an out of pocket and like,
Speaker 2: that's my lingo. But they're like, please do not say
Speaker 2: out of pocket. I'm like, that was what we were
Speaker 2: saying in ye say it if I want to say it, like,
Speaker 2: but their lingo, they're like, I just I say it
Speaker 2: in the wrong way on purpose to make them.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why did it hit different? I don't like
Speaker 1: who hit you?
Speaker 2: Like, no, it hit different?
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But anyway, my daughter may we put pants on the
Speaker 1: other day. I had like a slip dress on and
Speaker 1: little like booty shorts underneath you couldn't see anything. And
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gonna say this in the nicest way, Mom,
Speaker 1: can you put on pants. I'm like, I'm wearing pants
Speaker 1: and she's like, no, like long pants, like those are shorts.
Speaker 2: I'm so glad I don't have girls. I don't because
Speaker 2: I walk around like this is a lot of clothes
Speaker 2: for me. I walk around in simsuits I like have
Speaker 2: and my stupid dogs. I love them because they're so
Speaker 2: comfortable in my house and like the kids are so
Speaker 2: used to seeing me, like with barely any clothes on.
Speaker 1: It doesn't FaZe them, thank god. But sorry I interrupt
Speaker 1: you usually Australia, James.
Speaker 2: And it's called remedy. So it's yes, there's a little
Speaker 2: teaser on my Instagram now.
Speaker 1: So people can go, okay, I have to go listen. Sorry,
Speaker 1: sorry and listening okay, okay, yeah, it'll be fun. It's
Speaker 1: a really fun like what are you wearing it? Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I have the best clothes, like mostly James's clothes.
Speaker 1: I like, the girl's got the best clothes.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The boy's just the boy. He's handsome enough. He doesn't
Speaker 1: need great though. He did look like a pirate and
Speaker 1: I had to change it. I'm taking this off, and
Speaker 1: don't you put those glasses on. But the girls, we
Speaker 1: look good. We had a great stylist. Okay, that comes
Speaker 1: out April ninth. Yes, okay, I'm really excited. I got
Speaker 1: to tell you, and I know what it's like feeling
Speaker 1: insecure and what anyone else says, we can't hear it
Speaker 1: at all. I'm sitting right with you, and I know
Speaker 1: you're going through so much physically and emotionally. I think
Speaker 1: you look beautiful. Oh thank you. You really really When
Speaker 1: you walked out of the room to talk to the bed,
Speaker 1: I was telling my prodiser, I'm like, she's a fucking
Speaker 1: gorgeous in person. You're very sweet, but you know, but
Speaker 1: I know we have our own things that we feel.
Speaker 1: But also if I took this, I like you without makeup.
Speaker 2: No, I have this like Peter Thomas Roth mask on
Speaker 2: and it tightens everything up.
Speaker 1: Wait, what's that? I want that one my purse. I'll
Speaker 1: show you. But it lasts for about two hours, so
Speaker 1: you're it's like Cinderella is I used to have something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: It lasts for two hours, and it's like it makes
Speaker 2: it all smooth and then starts sinking in again and
Speaker 2: turning different colors.
Speaker 1: So that's fun.
Speaker 2: But it's a great mask until I can figure this out.
Speaker 2: That's what I'll be wearing.
Speaker 1: I want you to figure it out. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: come on your podcast. We have more to talk about it.
Speaker 2: I think I feel like we can day same.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we got that all clear. I know. I'm so.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you thought I was a bitch when
Speaker 1: I first hit you. Okay, I mean, listen, I'm here.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're all allowed to change, right, I'm.
Speaker 1: No, I keep saying change. I promise you I wasn't
Speaker 1: a bitch. No, I know, but I probably keep across
Speaker 1: like you're.
Speaker 2: Famous and Eddie, like you only talk to Eddie and
Speaker 2: I you know what I mean, famous people. I think
Speaker 2: that you're probably more scrutinized because because I don't know
Speaker 2: if I was some random person in an ovator.
Speaker 1: That's my big thing, My entire life is because of who.
Speaker 1: My dad was never wanting anyone to think, like, oh,
Speaker 1: the rich girl, she's going to be a bitch, that
Speaker 1: I was a bitch, so I was usually overly out
Speaker 1: of the way. But I'm also always been super insecure,
Speaker 1: so I probably it was probably an everything in me
Speaker 1: to go up to him to say hi, because I
Speaker 1: don't like seeing like seeing people I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: We were like, you know them, go say hi. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm scared. I'm scared, and then like
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, well you know what, I forgive you.
Speaker 2: It's fine and we'll do this again.
Speaker 1: This was fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry I was a little late. But the dog,
Speaker 2: she is my Her name's Lady, Lady for lady
Speaker 1: Sorry for lady, persh for Lady.