1 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tori Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 2: I thought of a show for us on the way 3 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 2: over you did, Yeah, I want to hear it. Yeah, broken, famous, famous, 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: and broke. 5 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're broken any more, but I'm broke, 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: honestly broke as fuck. It sucks. I would rather and 7 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: no one gets it. 8 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: It's so hard because if I go and work at CVS, 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 2: then everyone's gonna. 10 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: You know, oh my god, Look, I don't know. I 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm supposed to do anymore. And I 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: just you're not gonna go work at CVS. 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 2: I love CBS, though I got extra bags make me 14 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: so happy. But no, I was just thinking, it just 15 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: sucks to have people know who you are, and like 16 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 2: being famous is hard enough, but at least those most 17 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: people have money, I know, I mean you had money, 18 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: you know what it's like. 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what your situation 20 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: is like now. Yeah, yeah, this industry is just they're 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 1: so it's high, it's low. I can't. 22 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: I haven't had filler or botox in two years because 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: of the muzation. Yeah no, and I'm miserable and my 24 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 2: neck is the thing that makes me the most miserable 25 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: because you know those lines. I never had them before. 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,400 Speaker 1: No, wait, what lines? You know the things at pool? 27 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 2: I have one nail on. It's a really fun day 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: for me. 29 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: I might have no I have. It's fine, I have 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: like nail glue. 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: But then I didn't bring my nails, and I've already 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: gotten like almost gotten like three accidents on the right 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: here because I was putting on a mask and then 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: make up over my mask so that I would look 35 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: not like I looked yesterday for Netflix. I'm just gonna 36 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: hide my hands. That's how I kind of normally do it. 37 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 2: James knows. I'm always glueing on nails because I have 38 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: no nail bed. It's like a little kid's nail bed, 39 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 2: and they grow like they arch up. 40 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: It's not like a. 41 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: Deformity, but it it is kind of my mom our. 42 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: Nails just grow like a ski jump. So look like 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: I have a really short nail bed. 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: One hair I don't want to grow. I got I 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: got all that shit in my car. Do you want 46 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: hair with at a lotto ticket attached to it? Like 47 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: this is my life. We're kind of the same. 48 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like it's scary. So I glued them 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: on yesterday for the for the reality show. I mean, 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: he's twenty one. I'm not the boss of him anymore. 51 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: I just don't want this life for him because because you. 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: Know firsthand, but it could be different for him. 53 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 2: I don't think reality I mean right now reality TV 54 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: is the last two years has like completely. 55 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: Ruined my life. Yes, I understand, and. 56 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: I just don't want like, you know, why kiss say 57 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:00,399 Speaker 2: stupid stuff and they don't realize. Even yesterday they the 58 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 2: kids are there's a girl, really pretty girl. 59 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: She's a star. I mean, there's just no gutting around it. 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, like she is a star or she's gonna 61 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: be a star. 62 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: She she's gonna be a star. Like regard, she's like 63 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: the Christian cavalry. 64 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: I think, oh okay, but like. 65 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: With blue eyes and like younger. But yes, so it's 66 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: like he went to see our canyon. So he has 67 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: all these friends, but on my time, he's seen the struggle, 68 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 2: like he we've moved thirteen times in fifteen years. 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: It seems that he had moved seventeen times. 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: Why do you have to one up me or two 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: up me? I mean too, are you on meds Now Mayan, 72 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: What are you on meds right now? 73 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: No? Why do you have any No? I do, but but. 74 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: We could talk about I was kidding the Ambien's kicking 75 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: in now. I'm so, I feel like I told James I, 76 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: I feel like we're gonna interview each other, because that's 77 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: how it always works out when I when I go 78 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: on someone else's podcast. 79 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just like to I'm like, yeah. 80 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: So, I'm like, we're going to talk. He's like, I 81 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: think she's just gonna ask you questions. I don't think 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 2: it works that way. He does my podcast with me. 83 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: I just yell at him. 84 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: So he's so handsome, he likes it. He's attractive, he's gay. 85 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: They're all gay. All the cute ones are good ones. 86 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: So what's going on with you? Where do I start? 87 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. Should we go back to our beginning? Yeah, 88 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: let's do Okay, fine, okay. So I feel like the 89 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: first time I met you, you were a bit we 90 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: loved each other. Really the first time I Carlo, Yes, 91 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, I came up to the tape. What 92 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 1: are you talking about? 93 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: You came up and said hi to Eddie and totally 94 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: ignored me, And you had that weird husband at the 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: time with the big eyes. 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's so mean. I don't I mean, 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. 98 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 2: No, he was nice, but you were like talking to 99 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: Eddie like I didn't exist. 100 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry because I'm not that 101 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: he But you know, I knew him through high school 102 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: on a date or some under your dated. I know 103 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: him through high school. He dated my best friend. Where 104 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: do you go to high school? Do you want Claire Prep? Okay, 105 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: so all of my best friends went to Montclair. My 106 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: brother went to Montclair. Oh doc, that was like a 107 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: fun school. You guys went on a couple of dates. 108 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: One date. But this is later on, right, So my 109 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: best friend still to this day, her name's Jenny. Different 110 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: Jenny dated him in high school or okay, I'm just kidding. 111 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: I think they went to one of like the dances 112 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: or proms. Like she totally was like all like goo 113 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: eyes over him, and he like broke her heart. And 114 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: then cut to years later. Do you remember do you 115 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: remember that club the. 116 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: Gem, the Gem? No, maybe I didn't left her at 117 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,239 Speaker 2: oh wait, okay, yeah, yeah, so the Gem wasn't born yet. Okay, 118 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: I think we wait, we are. 119 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: The damage you're a year older. But other than that, 120 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: I thought you were younger than me. How old. I'm 121 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: fifty one. I'll be fifty two in May, so I'm 122 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: six months older than you. Yeah, but I thought you 123 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: were like for some reason and this is like a 124 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: good thing. And even like you're you don't have makeup 125 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: on today you're sitting here. I thought you were way 126 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: younger than me. 127 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: Just because I act like a child and I have 128 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: a high voice. Ever, I think it's my high voice 129 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 2: because everyone always thinks that I'm younger. 130 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: And I'm straight. I mean, I'm thinking, and then I'm 131 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: just looking at your face from like since the moment 132 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: I met you have I'll show you what I'm not 133 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: looking at your face right now. I'll show you can 134 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: rarely see me. 135 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 2: Like we are the same person, Like I can't see ship. 136 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: I think. Oh wait, wait, okay, wait, sorry, sorry, I'm 137 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: just excited. Okay, So Eddie and I like reconnected because 138 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: we had met through my friend in high school and 139 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: all our friends went to school together whatever. At this 140 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: like club on Melrose anyway, he was there and he 141 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: somehow asked me out, and I was like, I shouldn't work, Okay, 142 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: why why isn't Why am I the horror? Not? 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: No? 144 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: What I'm talking about him? Okay? And my I just 145 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: remember saying yes because I was like, because I know 146 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: you went out with you. Then he was interesting, we're 147 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: bringing this together now. 148 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 2: Well I told my kids that and they said absolutely 149 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: not true. And they don't believe things that I tell them. 150 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: I know are should be true because our dad doesn't 151 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 2: ever tell them the truth. 152 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: Male, we like full transparency, like this is it? Yeah? 153 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to put the pieces together. So what 154 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: it was? So I was scared to tell me about 155 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: friend because I was like, oh my god, she was 156 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: in love with him in high school and he broke 157 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: her heart. Am I supposed to be that dick friend? 158 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: And then like girl code not go out with them. 159 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: So I did end up telling her and I was like, 160 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: are you okay? And she's like, oh, I don't care. 161 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god. We're in her twenties now, that was 162 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: in high school. So hot. Sorry I listen, So you 163 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: do really beautiful? Yeah exactly, And so we went on 164 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: a date. He was like, oh, I mean he came 165 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: and picked me up my apartment and he was like, 166 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you to Dre's. I remember telling my 167 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: friends like, I don't know, yeah I was. It was 168 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: like I was it on Sunset Boulevard. I just know 169 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: my friends were like, oh, that's really on a soap 170 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: opera already expensive? What soap was he on? About all 171 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: of them? 172 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, I Young and the Restless and then Sunset. 173 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: Each Oh was he not on Nino two? And oh 174 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: maybe I know? Yeah, okay, okay. So I was so nervous, 175 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: hadn't eaten all day, and like, okay, nervously in front 176 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: of a guy at that age, like oh my god, yeah, 177 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: it's like it gives me anxiety. So we have like 178 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: a good table. We sat there, and the first thing 179 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: he says to me is he's like, I'm not really hungry, 180 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: are you do want to just get a drink? And 181 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, ouck, I didn't eat all damn starving, okay, 182 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: but I didn't want to eat from of you. Anyway, 183 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm a yes person, so I'm like, yeah, that sounds great. Anyway. 184 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: Cut to like three or four drinks later, I'm book 185 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: and shit faced, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm 186 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I felt like the combo wasn't great. 187 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Oh really, okay, I felt like he's we didn't He 188 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: has a charm, very charming. 189 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: It's like I always say to my my friends, like 190 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: go over and pick up the kids or drop them 191 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: off before when they were younger, and like, don't get 192 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: charmed because they all all my gay friends. Oh yeah, 193 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: for sure, and the kids have them too. So I'm like, 194 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: don't give me your dad's. 195 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Face right now. I can. I like, I know, give 196 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: me PTSD. You know what living in Calabasas says. 197 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: I'm listening because I have goun in my mouth and 198 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: missing teeth. 199 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: It's really fun to be me right now. 200 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 2: But no, I didn't think that going back to like 201 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: the scene of the crime, Calabasas was going to be 202 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 2: difficult because we've been getting along for years. I mean 203 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,319 Speaker 2: it's not been an issue. As the kids get older, 204 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 2: they make their own decisions, right, I mean, we I 205 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 2: did fight when I I will pick my battles. I 206 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: tell the kids that's on you. But if it's something 207 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 2: I will go to war for and then I know 208 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: I will win. Like there was two things, and of 209 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: course I won, and they were like, oh shit, don't 210 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 2: mess with mom. 211 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,959 Speaker 1: But it's just the little stuff that teach me your ways. 212 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm just getting a check me a decade to fit 213 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: to Oh wait, can I finish the story? Wait? Sorry, sorry, sorry, 214 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: I get so easily distracted. I'll go from I'm trying 215 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: to like, yeah, so anyway, there were four drinks. I'm 216 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: totally wasted. He was charming, great, talked a lot about himself. 217 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: I listened and kept drinking and then I was like, 218 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: I have to go to the bathroom. And I walked 219 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: and couldn't find the bathroom, and then I was like, 220 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: I just remember. I ended up in the kitchen at 221 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 1: Drays and this lovely like waiter back there held my 222 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: hair and I puked in a pot. Oh my god, 223 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm wan to okay. 224 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 2: Well, our first state we had sex that it was 225 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: really good, and I. 226 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: Was that was one of the cards. Yeah. So I 227 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: came back to the table. We went home. He walked 228 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: me up, he put me in my bed. I think 229 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: he like literally kissed me on the list, which I 230 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: was like, don't even kiss anywhere because I just right, yeah, 231 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: total gentleman. He left. I did get that call like 232 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: a week later, being like I think I have an 233 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: audition for your dad, and I was wondering, word, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 234 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: I met your brother. 235 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: He was really nice. I don't know if you guys 236 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 2: get along, but I mean he was like Eddy and 237 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: he got along really really well. Yeah yeah, And so 238 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, so just story. 239 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: That's a bitch, Okay. 240 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: I'm like no, I'm like, stand where I the juxtaposition 241 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: with like what I went through and what you went 242 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: through at the same time. 243 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: We have to opposite side. 244 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah wait, okay. 245 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: So Eddie then did and being the person I am, 246 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I guess he is along on 247 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: a second date with me. But of course I was like, hey, dad, 248 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: I was like my friend Eddie like was Jenny's boyfriend 249 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: in high school. He went to Montclair where Randy when 250 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: it was all that. 251 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: So any he's a good actor, like I mean, I will, 252 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: I'll just know. I'm just. 253 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: He's always been kind to me. 254 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 2: He's kind and well, not to me always, but I 255 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: understand that he is handsome, Like you can't get around it. 256 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: He's like one of the host guys I've ever. Yeah, 257 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: he was like destined to do something on camera. He 258 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: looks great, I. 259 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: Guess, but I just I'm not here for like mann Arexi. 260 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: I like when he's bigger, you know, I like, I 261 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: don't hope and they're super skinny. Oh really, oh I 262 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: bigger anyway, I don't know. 263 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: I never saw him whatever. It was okay, So then 264 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: came on one episode ended up doing your right senseit beach. 265 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I was like forgetting and he and my brother now 266 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: it's all coming back right yeah, and it was all lovely. 267 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: Then the next time I saw him was at the 268 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: International TV and Film So I am so I apologize. 269 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: I was telling my producer Chrissy earlier, I was like 270 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: Brandy and I got along so well, like she was 271 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: so oh great. But honestly, I'm sorry if I came 272 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: across that way, because I'm anything but a bitch, Like 273 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: I'm I probably just I get nervous and like to 274 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: see people like, well, they know me, will remember me. 275 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: So I went up to him. Probably not even people 276 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: today that we were fifteen years ago. Whenever that was. 277 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: I wasn't even a bitch then. 278 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: I'd never wanted to be. But I mean I choose, 279 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: I choose to do the right thing and be nice. 280 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I could still see us talking sitting on that couch 281 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: though I didn't sit down with you. 282 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: I was standing at the bar and no Eddie was 283 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: there sitting next to me. You came and said hi 284 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: to him. I turned to say hi to you, and 285 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 2: you completely ignored it. 286 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: Oh I'm devastated. Yeah, okay, at least we're talking about it. 287 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: Could no. 288 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 2: I like this. I like this. And then the next 289 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: time I saw you was in the elevator going to 290 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: that Bruce Jenner thing. 291 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: In that moment, you were so nice. 292 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I have to be nice 293 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 2: to her. 294 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: Oh see, And this is what's funny. I remembered when 295 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: we met. I was like, oh, I really like his wife. Good. 296 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: He has a nice one. She's full, she's kind. Great. 297 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: You thought I was a bitch, And then in the elevator, 298 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: in my mind, I was nice because I remembered our history, 299 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: thinking we liked each other, and I thought, oh, she 300 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: does not like them. So it was like, flip, it's 301 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: not I didn't. It's not that I don't like you. 302 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: You I didn't have a good experience with you before that, 303 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: but again, we all change. Yeah, yeah, I just didn't 304 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 2: like obviously the situations I was in, we were in 305 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 2: identical situations. 306 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: On the literal. So we've never talked about this. But 307 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: and I'm friends with Mary Joe. 308 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: You know that. 309 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: I do know that, and I but I didn't know 310 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: if you guys were still friends, like, I know, since 311 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: Dean and I like, because she and I like came 312 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: around and everything was good and then it was it 313 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: just like flip flop. 314 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 2: You guys aren't good now though, I don't know. I 315 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 2: just moved to Canada, so I would. I would move 316 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 2: to Canada honestly, I want to be here, Yeah, because 317 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: of what's happening here. 318 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Oh because yeah, I. 319 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: Mean Canada everyone's just nice, are they? 320 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well they pretend to be nice. 321 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: I'll take it, pretend all day. But yeah, so we 322 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 2: should probably get into that, right, Okay, So. 323 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean you were first, so you were you were 324 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: the og. 325 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: Yes, it's not a good thing to be first on. 326 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. 327 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: So my husband cheated with a person on a movie set. 328 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: He met TV. Movie they did, right, okay, and then 329 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: you met TV exact same way, but the parallels were 330 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: like wild, I was. 331 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: The wife at home and and he cheated with his 332 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: co star and Mary Joe was the wife at home. Yes, 333 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: and you cheated with her husband, who cheated with you? 334 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: I mean correct. 335 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: I don't blame one a man, a man or the woman, 336 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 2: but I blame both of them. I hate been like, oh, 337 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 2: she stole your man, Like you can't still a man 338 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: if he doesn't want to leave. Wait, thank you. 339 00:16:54,600 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: So there was a lot of that like yeah, yeah, homewrecker, 340 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: like like you stole my husband. Noah, I don't even 341 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: know she said that. Other people were like you stole 342 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: her husband. I mean it was the narrative for a 343 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: couple of years straight, a couple of yeah, everyone brings 344 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: it up and it's yeah. I was like, god, I'll 345 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: take accountability for everything, Like I could have said no 346 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: at any point, like you're married, you have kids, like oh, 347 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't. It takes two people. I don't believe 348 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: you can steal a human. That's how everyone's like, don't 349 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: you hate her for that? 350 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: I'm like, I hate him because we had two beautiful 351 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 2: little kids and that was his choice. 352 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:42,880 Speaker 1: I just got the hills same. 353 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 2: It's hard to talk about it because it does like 354 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: bring I'm sorry, No, it's okay, because that's obviously a conversation. 355 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: We're going to have. 356 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: But you know, the man isn't forced into getting hard 357 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 2: and having. 358 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: Sex with you. So I mean that's on him and 359 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: it's in you. Yeah, yeah, it's that's on him. I 360 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: just got that. Oh you're funny. 361 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 2: I like that. 362 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: It took me a second of process. Wow, I'm usually 363 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: quicker than that one. But wait, So, originally did Mary 364 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: Joe reach out to you? I believe so, I think so, right, 365 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: Please I read it. I don't know. We've never none 366 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: of us have talked about Mary Joe and I haven't 367 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: talked about it. 368 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 2: She was doing it. I think she was like the 369 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 2: original podcaster and she was having me on this a 370 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: long time ago. And I've had my podcast for fourteen years. 371 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: Wait, I thought she was on your podcast. 372 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: She had interested, she had, she's had a podcast for 373 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: a long time. 374 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: She had it was one different incarnations, Yes, right, it 375 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: was this one in Canada. 376 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 2: I don't remember, Okay, but then I don't even remember 377 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 2: how we ended up meeting up. But she then hooked 378 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: me up with the skincare line to work for, and 379 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: so over the years we've just always like looked out 380 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 2: for each other, right, And so she's just been like, like, 381 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: I have to move, but I don't know where I'm moving. 382 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 2: She's trying to help me find a place. She's a 383 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: good she's a good. 384 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: Friend, and I love her. 385 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: And it sucks what happened. He sucks what happened to me. 386 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 2: But I don't think that it's your fault or it's leanceval. 387 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: I think it's every everyone's fault. How I was handled 388 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: after sucked because everything's in the public and it's hard 389 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: enough to go through it privately. 390 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I mean you got a lot of 391 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 1: hate as well. I mean, you know, people are mean, 392 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: and it was it was not fun. 393 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: And now you're divorced, right, that's crazy and you have 394 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: like twenty kids. 395 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, goes around, comes around it, and you said that 396 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I don't but I'm just kidding. But I don't believe 397 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: it happened to me. 398 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: I don't want that, but you have a lot that 399 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 2: for my kids, Like, I don't want them to have 400 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: to go through another ever, because I know, I mean, 401 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: divorce fox kids up. 402 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: It really does. Yeah can And I don't know what 403 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: your situation was like, but for us, like it got 404 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: to the point where it was worse for the kids 405 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: to see us together because we could no longer hide 406 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: what was happening and the fights, and for so long 407 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: I hit it from them the best I could. I 408 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: lost my voice for doing it. 409 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: If you have to leave a bad relationship, you have 410 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 2: to leave. 411 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, the kids are saying I had. 412 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: Some of my kids were like, mom, I just remember 413 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: my daughter Hattie and especially like with girls, like, I'm like, oh, man, also, 414 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 1: I don't even know how you do. She looked at 415 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: me and she goes, I'm scared to talk to you 416 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: about this if you're not ready. I go, what, baby? 417 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: And she's like, have you ever considered what it would 418 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,880 Speaker 1: be like to be with someone else and not dad 419 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: and get treated right? And I was like oh, and 420 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: she was she loves her dad, it's not that, but 421 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 1: she just saw and grants it. Look at me, I'm 422 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: still covering, like I still have that thing protect me 423 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: because that's the father and my children. So I mean, 424 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: and he's an addict, so he was going through a 425 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, but a lot of it was taken 426 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: down on me. And she saw that, and and I 427 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: didn't like the person I was because I'm trying to 428 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: raise strong humans and here I am just taking it 429 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: and being like I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and it's like, 430 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: what am I doing? Right? So it was better for 431 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: us to yeah, no, I mean I think no, I mean, 432 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 1: but yes, he's cheated on me. 433 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: Really yeah, I didn't know that. Oh that sucks, but 434 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 2: I mean we kind of had to come in. 435 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: Sorry. That was on my show, True Torri. It was 436 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: like happening, and she and I had a conversation on 437 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: the show, which actually ended up being a good conversation, 438 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah. 439 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 2: I don't think she has any will towards you at all, 440 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 2: Like she doesn't say anything negative ever, and I and 441 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: I told her I was coming to do your podcast. 442 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: She's like, oh god, that's good, but then you have 443 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 2: to do mine. I'm like I've been saying I will 444 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: do her, but I'm moving and so I don't know 445 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,120 Speaker 2: where I'm going. I'm just it's been a hectic time 446 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: with health issues and all the other shit on my plate. 447 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: Right now, I'm just like, yes, for sure. So, I mean, 448 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: you've been in Hollywood a long time now. I'm like, 449 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: for like, your iconic Beverly Hills was like it's still 450 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: like talked about and now you're here and you're like 451 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: you've been through it, would you do it all the 452 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 2: same again? 453 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: Do you want to say that question for your podcast? 454 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 2: When I because I feel like we're just gonna I 455 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: feel like we're just interviewing each other kind of in 456 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 2: a way, but. 457 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: Not even interviewing, like like we get to talk like 458 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: this is an opportunity. It's like I've actually always wanted 459 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: to talk to you about this, and it's like, Okay, 460 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: here's a good excuse. I may more fun nowt like 461 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: having drinks and talking about it. But yeah, so I 462 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: forgot the question. Okay, would I do it all again? 463 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: Like just knowing the outcome? If you knew the outcome? 464 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: Which part? 465 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 2: Okay, that's I guess the affair in the first place, 466 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 2: and marrying him. 467 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I think about that all the time. 468 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: But if the journey had been different, I wouldn't have 469 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: my five kids, and those kids are my everything. So no, 470 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: I wouldn't change I wouldn't change the journey. I think 471 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: we could have gone back and handled it better. 472 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 2: Well, so there's that, but yeah, but the outcome, Yeah, listen, 473 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: I did not want to get a divorce. I found 474 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 2: out he cheated. I went to therapy with him, and 475 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: then I found out there was other people, and then 476 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you're gone. I can't if it was 477 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,399 Speaker 2: one time, one person. People make mistakes. I don't think 478 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 2: being an actor is natural, like to make out with people. 479 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 2: It's not a natural thing. Not to be attracted to 480 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: everyone's like, oh, there's lights and cameras and we're exciting. 481 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: You have to hide like some sort of mystry. 482 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 2: If you're attracted at all, that's got to be fun. 483 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 2: If you hate the person, not so fun, right, But 484 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I just don't think it's natural. And of 485 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: course he's always the good looking guy who takes his 486 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: shirt off and makes that with everyone on camera. 487 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: That couldn't have been easy for you. Oh it sucked 488 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: for years to see that. How long were you guys married? 489 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: Eight years? 490 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 2: Put together for thirteen? 491 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, oh I was. I would look up. 492 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: I would this is like I. 493 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: Would go online and go to wire images. That's all 494 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,880 Speaker 2: we have at the time, and just trying to find 495 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: out who this person was. 496 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: I still use it, but and just I'm like, okay, 497 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: is she tall? Is she short? And you know, at 498 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it didn't matter. 499 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: They're all like I found out about many and they 500 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 2: were all different shapes and sizes, and I had to 501 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: come to the realization it wasn't me, it's him, because 502 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: I mean I was doing I was being the best 503 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 2: wife I could be. It broke my heart, and I 504 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 2: think in a way, I still I'm still mad at 505 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 2: him for taking my kids away half the time because 506 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 2: I lost half their lives, right, and so I still 507 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: hold a little resentment. And I mean, we get along fine, 508 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: we spend holidays together, and it's I know. 509 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: I see I mean obviously I'm a viewer as well, 510 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: so like I see you on Instagram and everything, and 511 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it gave me hope. I know when we split, like 512 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: co parenting can work out. Why did you guys splat 513 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: June twenty twenty three. I was so soon. I took 514 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: my decade just hanging out. I was. 515 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: I was at war with them for ten years. I 516 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: just it was horrible, but I never let the kids 517 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 2: know it. I even went to therapy with them to 518 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: stop having them triangulate the kids because they were getting 519 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 2: caught in the middle. I'm like, this is our mess, 520 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: don't fuck with up my babies, and they're like, you 521 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 2: went and sat in therapy with Eddie and Leanne. I'm like, yeah, 522 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 2: that's great. I sure they did, because at that point 523 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: my heart was broken and all I cared about was 524 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: my kids, and it was it was really fun therapy. 525 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 2: Actually I got to say so many things. 526 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Like cathartic, really like. 527 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 2: But then I kept changing the therapist because the therapists 528 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 2: kept agreeing with me. We had like three different therapists. 529 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: Oh no, so they didn't find it fair. We're going 530 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 1: to find someone else. Oh my god, Well, because you 531 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: were right. But it's wild, like all I know are 532 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: being really kind of with actors or people in the business. 533 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if a male actor can ever be 534 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 1: not turned on. I know, no, I feel because it's 535 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: also there's an ego that goes alongside it. 536 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: Are athletes, actors and musicians are all. 537 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: Like they can't be with an athlete musician. Yes, I 538 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: haven't been with either. Should I add to my thelast 539 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: single don't You're No? 540 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,360 Speaker 2: Wait? Like I just said, yeah, those three are off 541 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: the table. You need like a banker, like someone who 542 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 2: let you be. I have this theory there can only 543 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: be one star in the relationship. 544 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god. My mom has said that before. See 545 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: she was because she was my dad for your you know, 546 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: and she was like, you got to know the Eddie 547 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: was a star. 548 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: I was happy to be at home make the food, 549 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: and he wanted me to stop modeling. 550 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: I did. 551 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: I raised the kids, and I feel that's why I 552 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: felt like. 553 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: Wait, why do he want you to stop modeling? Couldn't 554 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: you do both? 555 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: No? 556 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: Because when you need to travel. 557 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like when I would be gone, he 558 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: would be like, what are you doing. I'm like, I'm 559 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: not doing what you were doing. 560 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: But no, he just, you know, had she find out 561 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: about others, so she asking to know. I don't care. Oh, 562 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: I forgot about this. I watched this. Sorry. 563 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 2: After the thing came out, then sena thing came out 564 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 2: and she was like on Access Hollywood doing a sit 565 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: down about how Eddie cheated on her with Leanne and 566 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 2: I have a baby in diapers running around and I'm 567 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 2: sitting there on my couch. 568 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: That's how you found out, yes, from watching Access Hollywood. 569 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: And I was like is this I literally was like 570 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm being punked. 571 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: This cannot be raw. And that's when it was like 572 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: I'm done. 573 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: And then we Eddie and I had a conversation that 574 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: he still says he never had with me that. 575 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 1: He said, it's not you, it's me. 576 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: I've always cheated from day one, and then it was 577 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 2: just us having that conversation. 578 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: We wouldn't forget women never free. 579 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: And when I brought it back up, He's like, I 580 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: never said that. 581 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm like, okay, nothing against him, right, but 582 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm just husband for me. Wait, I am sure this 583 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: has been out there, But how did you find out 584 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: about Lianne? 585 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: Or he told you it was No, it was on 586 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 2: Perez Hilton and what I'm in, like the drives, like 587 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 2: to drop off the kids at school we were leaving 588 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 2: that day, or my best friend was marrying Bruce was 589 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: and we're going to fly to Terce and Caicos or 590 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: the wedding and the two of you. 591 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: Yes, and she only invited fecause okay, and so she 592 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: only invited four. 593 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 2: Well yeah, it was like a private Oh okay, Demi 594 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 2: and Ashton, me and Eddie and then Kristin and Josh 595 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: are other friends. 596 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: So that was an anxiety, what's going to happen here? Okay? 597 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 2: Well, no, I I went because and Perez it had 598 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 2: the cover of US Weekly. So I ran to the 599 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: store and she's on the cover, says Leann's affair was 600 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 2: a married man. 601 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: Oh it didn't say who, Well, yeah I did, No, 602 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: it did did How did he find out? 603 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: He? 604 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: You know how, you know how like. 605 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: These taboys work, they reached out to you for a response. 606 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: So he knew, and he chose not to give me 607 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: any warning at all. 608 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Oh wait, okay, Eddie knew. Eddie knew. But so like 609 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: how helplessis would say, like this is coming out. 610 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: He didn't give me any heads up. So I'm hearing 611 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: it from all the moms. And then I go home 612 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 2: and then I see it like Perez, and then I 613 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 2: go to the store. I get as quickly it's on 614 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: the cover like this hole and there's like pictures and 615 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: it's just. 616 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, I knew, I said pictures like someone 617 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: got pictures of them. Yes, the person released it. 618 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, someone got a picture of them making out. 619 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: It's very suss. 620 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 2: I think she wanted it to come out so that 621 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 2: she could have her man, because I don't think that 622 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: he was trying to leave if he wasn't caught. 623 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: If that makes sense, it makes sense. Interesting. 624 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I just said, listen, it's not about us, 625 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: it's about my best friend just getting married and we're 626 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: not talking about this. I don't know how I did it. 627 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: I was way stronger back then, and we didn't and 628 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: I had the time of my life at that wedding. 629 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 2: Did not give two fucks. I got sucked up. 630 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: I deserve a lot of things. I didn't have sex 631 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: with anyone. You have sex with him? 632 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean you kept feeling like the last time. 633 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: I just I that and it was all that, like 634 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: that last weekend jen Anison. It wait what it wasn't No, 635 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: I can't. I forgot it wasn't. 636 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: But because when we got back, he wouldn't move out 637 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: of the house, so he moved into the guest room, 638 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: and so then we would get in huge horrible fights. 639 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: Wouldn't have because it was his house? Okay yeah? 640 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 641 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 1: Would he his? Was your house together? What was this thing? 642 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 2: Like? 643 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 1: I paid for it, it's my house, I'm not moving 644 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: But he did, okay all that to you? Oh okay? Yeah? 645 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Was he like you can move out? 646 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: No, he just went to the guest room and put 647 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 2: lock on the door. Because I did really want to 648 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: kill him a couple of times. I mean I was like, yeah, 649 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 2: you better lock that door, motherfucker. But then we get 650 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: in fights and then we'd have sex, and. 651 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: So I'm like, you have to leave, Oh my god, 652 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,719 Speaker 1: but that yeah, God, I've been there, and that makeup 653 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: sex is really yeah, but. 654 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: It's not even makeup sex because you know, it's like 655 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: it's like torture sex, like yeah, that's fun. 656 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: This is last time? Do I love you? You broke 657 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: my heart? Why am I here? What's happening it? It 658 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: almost feels like the first time sex again? No? Am 659 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: I wrong here? I'm only associating it because when Dean 660 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: cheated on me publicly, the only reason it came out 661 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: is because the girl it happened with sold a story. 662 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: It was coming out US Weekly. The week of Christmas. 663 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: My publicist called and was like, heads up, we can't 664 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: kill you. It's coming out. So I told him though, 665 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: and then we had to, like that nightgo and he 666 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: was like I don't remember that maybe, And we had 667 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: to go to the kids Christmas performance and I was 668 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: like knowing walking in, like people there were like, oh, 669 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: it's Torri and Dean. Oh their kids are so cute 670 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: and da da da da, And I was like him, No, 671 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: I was like in two days, like the world's gonna know, 672 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: because they were like, it's not going out for two days. 673 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: It came out two days before Christmas. Yeah, and then 674 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 1: I tried to get us into therapy because so the 675 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,239 Speaker 1: night it happened and we went to the Christmas thing, 676 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: we came back, my best friend, who like gets paranoid 677 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: about everything is she's like, he's like, I'm going to 678 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: sleep in the other room. Obviously, like we weren't talking 679 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: about things, just going on, gonna celebrate Christmas, kids are home, 680 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: and she's like locked the bedroom door. I'm like, why 681 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: is he going to hurt me? And he's going to 682 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: kill me? And then she's just lock it. I don't know, 683 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to happen. So I tried 684 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: to get us into therapy and be like sos, doctor Waxler, 685 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: like we got a problem here, and yeah, that's when 686 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: he said he wanted to convince suicide. So we never 687 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: even talked about the affair. She had to put him 688 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: on a fifty one fifty and he's talked about I know, sorry, 689 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: I know it's not an easy way out there. I've 690 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: had so many friends that said that, and then we 691 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: never dealt with. 692 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: They say that they're a sex addict. That that I'm like, okay, 693 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 2: well that isn't that, you know, convenient. I'm not saying 694 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 2: that Deane wasn't messed up. I don't. 695 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: I don't know him. I don't know him at all. 696 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: I just remember that one time, like and then I 697 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: threw myself into like, oh my gosh, the holidays. I'm 698 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: here with the kids. Had you know, we just said dad's, 699 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: dad's off healing and they're like, my son was seven 700 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: at the time. He's like, oh, because of his anger issues. 701 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, and he's I can read at 702 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: that point. That's why he was like, oh my gosh. 703 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: So he's at a hospital and I said, is it 704 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: uc that. I was like yeah, you know, I didn't 705 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: say what it was for. And he goes, I hope 706 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: they have surgery on him and they take out his 707 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: anger and I was like, oh my god, but yeah. 708 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: I remember going to visit him at UCLA and just like, 709 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: are you okay? I forgot like repressed everything that he 710 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 1: had just cheated on me. We had a fourteen month 711 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: old and I'm like, oh my god, and are you okay? 712 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: I'm here for you. Talk to all the doctors. But 713 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: we did have sex in the bathroom at his room 714 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: at UCLA and it was okay, and it was and 715 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: the sex was really good. And I thought about it 716 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: for a really long time, like what is wrong in me? 717 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 2: You're punishing yourself that I yeah, I mean, that's just 718 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: it's part of when you're in love with someone. Yeah, 719 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 2: And like to this day, I haven't been in love 720 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: like I was with Eddie and I don't think I 721 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: will again. And hopefully no, No, I mean I've I've 722 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 2: loved people that haven't been Like maybe true love the 723 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: second time is totally different. 724 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: You closed your heart up, So look what happened the 725 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: first time. I mean I did. 726 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 2: I had I've had relationships like a couple of a 727 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 2: couple of years when I was like, I just I 728 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: don't let anyone get that close. 729 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's who closed your heart up. It's hard to. 730 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 2: Also didn't trust people because of the TV situation, and 731 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 2: like guys that want to be on camera that scares me. 732 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 2: That would scare me, right, So I wouldn't want to 733 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: be on housewives ever. If I was a dude, I'd 734 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 2: be like, let the ladyes fight it out and. 735 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: They would want to when they when you were in 736 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: that situation? Interesting, okay, and. 737 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 2: That was always a red flag. Yeah, and that episode 738 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 2: do you like me? Or do you like the fact 739 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,600 Speaker 2: that am I like a prize that you're like, Oh, 740 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: it's like a fun trick like trick pony. Oh yeah, 741 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm dating that one girl and like I'm on TV 742 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: look and not really into me? 743 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: Or do you really like me? You know what I mean? 744 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,240 Speaker 1: So it was just weird. 745 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: I have trust issues, yes him, Yeah, as you should. 746 00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: Are you dating anyone now? 747 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 2: No? 748 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: With my health issues, I haven't. I want to do years. No, 749 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: it's like celibate for two years. 750 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: Not by choice, but yeah, because I just don't. I've 751 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: I've lost my security in my looks, I'm so insecure. 752 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 2: I isolate and god basses. 753 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: I don't leave my house. I don't do a lot. 754 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: I did shoot a music video and they did touch 755 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: up my face with their digitizing thing because they were 756 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: so nice. 757 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: So can we talk about your face? Sure? So I 758 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: don't know what I read online, So I'm not sure 759 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: where you're at with it. So when did it start? 760 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: So? I came back from Morocco in January two years ago. 761 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: That was the Real Housewives Girls trip right that. 762 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: Ruined my life. Six months later, I started to swell up. 763 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: My face was swelling up, and it would swell in 764 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,959 Speaker 2: one sur oh no, and then go to the other side, 765 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: and then it was I have pictures and then it 766 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 2: would flip flop. So it seemed like there was something 767 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 2: alive and they're moving around, so I'm like, there's got 768 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,320 Speaker 2: to be some parasite. 769 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: I got like there's something which can happen. It can, 770 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: but I. 771 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 2: Don't believe it's parasite now. But we still don't have answers. 772 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 2: It's been a lot of doctor's appointments and a lot 773 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 2: of money and unfortunately we don't have answers yet. And 774 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 2: I know there's a problem, Like my kids are, you know, 775 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 2: they were like my head sometimes feels like there's so 776 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: much pressure inside my head in my neck that it's 777 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 2: going to explode. I have to constantly chew gum. That's 778 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 2: why I'm cheating them now. 779 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: I hate it. 780 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 2: It keeps my head from exploding because the pressure it 781 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 2: keeps it moving so that my limps actually drained because 782 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 2: my ted chairs like it's like bursting bubbles. It's disgusting. 783 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 2: But the problem is I have kaiser, that's my problem. 784 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 2: And I went to probably a dozen thirteen doctors there 785 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 2: and no well at all, and so I started, you know, 786 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 2: paying out of pocket and and the midst of all 787 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,280 Speaker 2: of this, I'm not working. All my jobs canceled because 788 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 2: of because you couldn't work. Well wait, the Caroline stuff, Well, 789 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 2: the narrative when we got back from Morocco was I 790 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 2: was fired for being appropriate with Caroline Mansow and I wasn't. 791 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,919 Speaker 1: I was had I miss this one? 792 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't know because it's ruined my life. 793 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,399 Speaker 2: But I got six six months later. But those six 794 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 2: months I was in a feedt up position on my couch, 795 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: like contemplating suicide, being called horrible things by It's so 796 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 2: crazy that the press has so much power, like blogged 797 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: these bloggers they went, they went from gave her lap dance, 798 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 2: to kissed her unwantingly, to sexually harassed her, then to 799 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 2: rape like this is how and there's like two thousand articles. 800 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 2: And so I was supposed to go after Australia. I 801 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: had all these jobs like that, and everything canceled and 802 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 2: and it wasn't even I'm like, just wait for the 803 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 2: show to air at least like come. 804 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: On, I'm sorry. Yeah, so like a hustling mom and like. 805 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,080 Speaker 2: You're just like this right, And then I lost my 806 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: looks at the same time because I was I literally 807 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 2: at fifty one, started only fans because I did not. 808 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: Have are you on? Only fans? I am? 809 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 2: Because I didn't have income for six months and I 810 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 2: was like going through my savings and so I started 811 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,479 Speaker 2: that I was making good money, and then my face 812 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 2: started being crazy. So then I couldn't really even do 813 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 2: that because they're like, Okay, we don't want any more 814 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: pictures of your feet or your mask with you with 815 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: a mask on, because I was trying to hide my face. 816 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: So it just fee fund Yeah, I just do you 817 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,359 Speaker 1: have good feet? No, I have bunions, But people like them. 818 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: It's weird, that's the thing they like that they are. 819 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: I don't like it. 820 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:59,399 Speaker 2: But so then it's just been a really tough tough time. 821 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: And then now. 822 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,480 Speaker 2: Still not having a diagnosis. 823 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 1: I imagine that's the hardest. Is I fear the unknown and. 824 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 2: Just skidy frustration like something's But luckily some women have 825 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 2: reached out to me on social media and they've had 826 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: very very similar things happening to their face. And they've 827 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 2: helped me so much to know what tests to ask for, 828 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 2: know what, like you need to get a fungal panel 829 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: because we had black mold poisoning a long time ago, 830 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,760 Speaker 2: so they think that could be part of this. Totally 831 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 2: a fungal infection. Because we had it so bad, we 832 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: got like a settlement from the landlord. And my son 833 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 2: had it the worst. But luckily for them, they got. 834 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Money from it. 835 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 2: Like you know, when Jake turns eighteen, ye'll have his 836 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,399 Speaker 2: little nest egg that Mason had, so it's good. 837 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: We were supposed to do that, and I couldn't deal 838 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: with the lawyers and going to all the doctors to 839 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: get the proof. 840 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,439 Speaker 2: No, I didn't have insurance. I was like just buying 841 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 2: everything on Amazon and sitting in my house like. 842 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: It was. 843 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 2: It's the worst. And I've never felt fully back from 844 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 2: that point. But then if there's a I had a 845 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 2: dental infection that no one knew about. It was under 846 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 2: a bridge, and I kept telling my dentist, I'm like, 847 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 2: there's something under there. It's really bothering me. He's like, 848 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: we can see through it on the extra you're fine. 849 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: And finally I took it out myself I got some 850 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 2: yarn and some super flasks and I pulled it down 851 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 2: and there was a completely rotted tooth. So and he 852 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 2: told you this fine, and that bridge had been there 853 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 2: for like ten years. 854 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: So I don't I still I have. 855 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: I think it was like a perfect storm of all 856 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 2: shit things that happened and we still are figuring it out. 857 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, my kids are still not okay, some worse than others. Yeah, 858 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: there took. It took. I don't know if you guys 859 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: had this with the black mold, but like neurologically, there 860 00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: would be things well I can't I couldn't see. It 861 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: would just be like a delay or small And they 862 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: did this thing. We went to this not Easter medicine, 863 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: but like, yeah, they did all this the studies and 864 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: they'd deal with mold and it's for people, like they think. 865 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,439 Speaker 1: I was like walking a straight line and count from 866 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 1: one to ten, and I'd be like, in my balance, 867 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't walk and count at the same time because 868 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 1: my brain was trying to count. My other brain side 869 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: of my brain was trying to walk straight. And the 870 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: same thing were happening with my kids. Yeah, and it 871 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: was like we were all like my daughter would be like, 872 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: were where's this on the counter? And I was like, 873 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: I just told you, baby, And then it was right 874 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,879 Speaker 1: in front of her and I'd be like, oh my god. 875 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: I'd be like She's like, oh, I didn't even I 876 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: can see it. Like every rental, I like, I'm still renting, 877 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: but I have it same. I have it checked for 878 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: black mold first, because we were so sick. Mason was 879 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: really like the worst. He had anaphylaxis almost every day 880 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: and or the school is like, oh, why are the 881 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: kids always so sick? Are you just not getting them 882 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: to school? That's that's how mine got checked out, is I. 883 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: One of the schools was like, we need to do 884 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: a zoom with the district and have like it was 885 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: wild and I said and a friend, actually, Jenny Garth, 886 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,080 Speaker 1: said to me, you ever had your house check from Aldama? 887 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: It's just rental And she's like, yeah, you're good check 888 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: giving there. You have to check it. That's the reason 889 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: I checked it. And then the school still didn't care, 890 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: but like no, but it we got out like it's 891 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: I could have gone a lot. 892 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 2: Like people don't understand you like I could. I had 893 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: the worst anxiety in my life. I didn't leave that 894 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 2: condo that we were living in. I couldn't see my 895 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 2: hair was falling out my I like, thank god. My 896 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,320 Speaker 2: friend from Miami came over and he's like, there was 897 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 2: a leak in the ceiling. I ask the landlords to 898 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 2: fix it, like twenty times. They left it for four 899 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 2: months and he's like, you know what this game? Like, 900 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 2: I go, I don't know, but it smells horrible. He's like, 901 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 2: this is black mold. He's like, we have it everywhere 902 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 2: in Flora, like you need. He's like, this is why 903 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 2: you're feeling this way. This is why your skin is gray. 904 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: This is why you look this way. And I had 905 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 2: not felt one hundred since then. But we got out 906 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 2: of there, you know, and I got a lawyer because 907 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 2: we were all so sick. 908 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I should have gone forward with it. I didn't. 909 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: I didn't want to deal with more trust lawyers right now, 910 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: and it's lawyer than just like forget it and then 911 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 1: going through a divorce at the same time. I'm like, okay, 912 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: so I let that one go. 913 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,840 Speaker 2: Sometimes just easier to say to get a lawyer do this. 914 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm like I did for that, but I'm like, all. 915 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't stress me out. Why why not just. 916 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 2: Keep it moving and see what happened when I kept 917 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:45,399 Speaker 2: it moving. 918 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: You want to be well, you want to be happy. 919 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: You deserve that. But people online do tell you more. 920 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,200 Speaker 2: Because they've gone through this woman. I don't even know 921 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 2: if it's the same thing. But would she say she 922 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:05,799 Speaker 2: thought she's she sent me this. It's Tricka trica minosis. 923 00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 2: I have a written down, but it's a fungal infection 924 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 2: that her and thirty other women have in Boulder, Colorado, 925 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,120 Speaker 2: because they went to a doctor that gave them filler 926 00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: that was not like some bogus as filla. 927 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 928 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 2: And so I'm like, well, even though everyone thought I 929 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 2: was doing too much filler and they always commented on it, 930 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 2: I wasn't like I had stopped, but my face I 931 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 2: looking back, it was still growing. So I think probably 932 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,279 Speaker 2: the dental infection had a baby with the filler, you 933 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like the infection got into the 934 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: filler and now there's a fungle. 935 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just honestly want someone to open 936 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: up my face and get rid of it. Oh my gosh. 937 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: And you're working with doctor Dubrow or no, yes, I am. 938 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: So he was speaking about me on TMC. So I 939 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 2: reached out to him because I said, if you're going 940 00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 2: to talk about me, you might as well help me. 941 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: It's fine, yeah, right, and like that's a nice guy. 942 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 1: He's a nice guy. 943 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 2: Unfortunately we haven't we haven't come to any He thought 944 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 2: it was filler too. 945 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: It's not filler. 946 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:11,720 Speaker 2: It's like it's not filler. 947 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, it's a fungle. How do 948 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: you find that? 949 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 2: Though, Well, they have to test for it. The test, well, 950 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 2: it's a culture they have to do. 951 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 1: But he didn't. 952 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:21,840 Speaker 2: I thought he had done that. 953 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 1: But he did not, so so they'd have to open 954 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: up in your face to. 955 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 2: Go in or well he took three biopsies, okay, so 956 00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 2: I thought we were testing for fungal. 957 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: Again. 958 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 2: I feel like it's so much more on the inside 959 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 2: of my like inside of my mouth because all drains 960 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 2: into my mouth, Like it might be better to go 961 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 2: inside my mouth. 962 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:42,719 Speaker 1: And do it. 963 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 2: So I'm seeing this new dentist and he's trying to 964 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 2: help me. So I'm I'm like explaining all avenues because. 965 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: The pressure and neck it's makes sense, but it's all 966 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: adding up, like but it's getting worse. 967 00:47:54,680 --> 00:48:00,080 Speaker 2: And like when when like an infectious disease doctor or 968 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 2: that kaiser, like you're fine, you're not getting antibiotics, and like, 969 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 2: I'm not here trying to get norco's. I need an 970 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 2: antibiotic because I do feel better on antibiotics. And the 971 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 2: one time I felt really good was that I had 972 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 2: IVY antibiotics and an IVY fungal treatment. But I couldn't 973 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,600 Speaker 2: afford to keep it going because it was two thousand 974 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 2: dollars a week and I was paying out a pocket 975 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 2: and so I finished early, and because I looked normal again, 976 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, fucky, I'll just finish and I should have 977 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 2: kept going. And now I just have to find a 978 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:32,960 Speaker 2: doctor to put me back on that. 979 00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: And it's just so what do people do. I'm just asking, like, 980 00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: if you don't have insurance or good insurance and you 981 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,279 Speaker 1: don't get see good doctors, like. 982 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 2: That's all they care about is good fucking money. I'm like, 983 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,399 Speaker 2: I don't care what it costs. Like I had a rest, 984 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 2: like I rescued this dog. I had a rescue tuala 985 00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: and that same vet for seven thousand dollars for a 986 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 2: rattlesnake bite which I didn't have. But of course I'll 987 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 2: find it. Yeah, I'll get another credit card to. 988 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 1: Have a lot. Yeah, for our babies, for our for babies. 989 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: Will do anything anything. I will pay for hair. 990 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,279 Speaker 2: That's like the one thing I cannot give up because 991 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 2: when my hair's out, I do not feel good, like 992 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 2: it's even It's like amplified by a hundred million. 993 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: I understand that. 994 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 2: I yeah, so most girls got it that don't that 995 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 2: use have natural hair and use them a little bit 996 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 2: of fluff on. 997 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: Top of it. Mine's more than that. He's trying to 998 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,879 Speaker 1: you have a single coming out? Talk about one second. 999 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 2: Okay, so we have music coming out myself and two 1000 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 2: Australian pop stars. 1001 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: They reached out to me. 1002 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,120 Speaker 2: Well, one is my manager and my friend James. He's 1003 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 2: really famous in Australia. 1004 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: James, is this true? James is here on the. 1005 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 2: Side and he's handsome. And they asked you to do 1006 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 2: like a little a rap for the there a rap. 1007 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 2: Yeah I don't sing so, but I like, yeah, sure, 1008 00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,879 Speaker 2: So I wrote a up in it. It's actually really fun. 1009 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 2: My kid and I let my kids listen to it 1010 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 2: and they were mortified after they heard my first song 1011 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 2: because I did a rap song. It was just a joke, 1012 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 2: but they were like, not good, mom, but I still 1013 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 2: put it out. I didn't care. 1014 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: Our kids can be so judging, you know what. I 1015 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 1: like it like, but yes, they like, Mom, that's dank. 1016 00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,160 Speaker 1: That's all I hear now from teens means good. No 1017 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: dank to us. Yeah, my eighteen said the other day 1018 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, I'm still He's like, no, Mom, 1019 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 1: Jane means awesome. I'm like, okay, if I. 1020 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 2: Say anything that like with their lingo, they like. I'm like, 1021 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, that's she liked an out of pocket and like, 1022 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 2: that's my lingo. But they're like, please do not say 1023 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 2: out of pocket. I'm like, that was what we were 1024 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 2: saying in ye say it if I want to say it, like, 1025 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:53,440 Speaker 2: but their lingo, they're like, I just I say it 1026 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 2: in the wrong way on purpose to make them. 1027 00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, why did it hit different? I don't like 1028 00:50:58,719 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: who hit you? 1029 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 2: Like, no, it hit different? 1030 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:02,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 1031 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1032 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: But anyway, my daughter may we put pants on the 1033 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: other day. I had like a slip dress on and 1034 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: little like booty shorts underneath you couldn't see anything. And 1035 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,799 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm gonna say this in the nicest way, Mom, 1036 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: can you put on pants. I'm like, I'm wearing pants 1037 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 1: and she's like, no, like long pants, like those are shorts. 1038 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,880 Speaker 2: I'm so glad I don't have girls. I don't because 1039 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 2: I walk around like this is a lot of clothes 1040 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 2: for me. I walk around in simsuits I like have 1041 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 2: and my stupid dogs. I love them because they're so 1042 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: comfortable in my house and like the kids are so 1043 00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 2: used to seeing me, like with barely any clothes on. 1044 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't FaZe them, thank god. But sorry I interrupt 1045 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: you usually Australia, James. 1046 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 2: And it's called remedy. So it's yes, there's a little 1047 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 2: teaser on my Instagram now. 1048 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: So people can go, okay, I have to go listen. Sorry, 1049 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,319 Speaker 1: sorry and listening okay, okay, yeah, it'll be fun. It's 1050 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: a really fun like what are you wearing it? Oh 1051 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 1: my god. I have the best clothes, like mostly James's clothes. 1052 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: I like, the girl's got the best clothes. 1053 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 2: You know. 1054 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,240 Speaker 1: The boy's just the boy. He's handsome enough. He doesn't 1055 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: need great though. He did look like a pirate and 1056 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: I had to change it. I'm taking this off, and 1057 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: don't you put those glasses on. But the girls, we 1058 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: look good. We had a great stylist. Okay, that comes 1059 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,520 Speaker 1: out April ninth. Yes, okay, I'm really excited. I got 1060 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: to tell you, and I know what it's like feeling 1061 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,440 Speaker 1: insecure and what anyone else says, we can't hear it 1062 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: at all. I'm sitting right with you, and I know 1063 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: you're going through so much physically and emotionally. I think 1064 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: you look beautiful. Oh thank you. You really really When 1065 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: you walked out of the room to talk to the bed, 1066 00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 1: I was telling my prodiser, I'm like, she's a fucking 1067 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,120 Speaker 1: gorgeous in person. You're very sweet, but you know, but 1068 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: I know we have our own things that we feel. 1069 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: But also if I took this, I like you without makeup. 1070 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 2: No, I have this like Peter Thomas Roth mask on 1071 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,799 Speaker 2: and it tightens everything up. 1072 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,040 Speaker 1: Wait, what's that? I want that one my purse. I'll 1073 00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,800 Speaker 1: show you. But it lasts for about two hours, so 1074 00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 1: you're it's like Cinderella is I used to have something 1075 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:14,320 Speaker 1: like that. 1076 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 2: It lasts for two hours, and it's like it makes 1077 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 2: it all smooth and then starts sinking in again and 1078 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,840 Speaker 2: turning different colors. 1079 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: So that's fun. 1080 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 2: But it's a great mask until I can figure this out. 1081 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 2: That's what I'll be wearing. 1082 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 1: I want you to figure it out. I'm excited to 1083 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 1: come on your podcast. We have more to talk about it. 1084 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 2: I think I feel like we can day same. 1085 00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad we got that all clear. I know. I'm so. 1086 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry you thought I was a bitch when 1087 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: I first hit you. Okay, I mean, listen, I'm here. 1088 00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 2: I feel like we're all allowed to change, right, I'm. 1089 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: No, I keep saying change. I promise you I wasn't 1090 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,720 Speaker 1: a bitch. No, I know, but I probably keep across 1091 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 1: like you're. 1092 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 2: Famous and Eddie, like you only talk to Eddie and 1093 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: I you know what I mean, famous people. I think 1094 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 2: that you're probably more scrutinized because because I don't know 1095 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 2: if I was some random person in an ovator. 1096 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: That's my big thing, My entire life is because of who. 1097 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: My dad was never wanting anyone to think, like, oh, 1098 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: the rich girl, she's going to be a bitch, that 1099 00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: I was a bitch, so I was usually overly out 1100 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 1: of the way. But I'm also always been super insecure, 1101 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: so I probably it was probably an everything in me 1102 00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,160 Speaker 1: to go up to him to say hi, because I 1103 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 1: don't like seeing like seeing people I don't, I don't. 1104 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,080 Speaker 1: We were like, you know them, go say hi. I'm like, 1105 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm scared. I'm scared, and then like 1106 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, well you know what, I forgive you. 1107 00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: It's fine and we'll do this again. 1108 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:43,359 Speaker 1: This was fun. 1109 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry I was a little late. But the dog, 1110 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 2: she is my Her name's Lady, Lady for lady 1111 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 1: Sorry for lady, persh for Lady.