1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 2: Doug McIntyre in for Johnny Ken on Tuesday, it becomes 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 2: the John Cobbolt Show. I'll be here on Monday as well, 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 2: and we're sailed along till four o'clock. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: Got a lot to talk by the way. 7 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: In the three o'clock we're going to talk to a 8 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 2: woman who teaches a class in Taylor Swift, so you 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: could get a degree in Swifty apparently, so we'll get 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: into that. And we're also on O'tani Watch, and David 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 2: Vessey will join us, because of course everybody is trying 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 2: to figure out where's Otani gonna land. He's the Taylor 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: Swift of baseball actually, and the Dodgers are clearly one 14 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: of the teams of major consideration. But the word is 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: bubbling to the surface that he's gonna make the announcement 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: where his p team will make the announcement today, So 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 2: we're on o'tani watch as well. President Biden is in town. 18 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 2: That means traffic is through the road, and of course 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: whenever any president comes to la and snarls traffic, that 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: means they lose ten thousand votes. It doesn't matter what 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: party you're in if you come to Los Angeles and 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: you mess with our traffic or what your cause is. 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: By the way, if you're a protester, you mess with 24 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: our traffic and you're in trouble. Speaking of trouble, yesterday 25 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden, the President's son, was hit with a whole 26 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: slew of additional charges related to his taxes and this 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: could actually have found guilty, could send him depending on 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: how the jury and the judge finds, could send him 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: to prison for a long time. Let's talk about this 30 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: with ABC News Stephen portnite. Stephen, how are you hey, 31 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 2: Good afternoon to you. 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 3: So what are the additional charges? 33 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: Now, this case has been of course everything is political now, 34 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: but originally it was a lot of people on the right. 35 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: There was a plea deal and people were arguing that 36 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,559 Speaker 2: on the right that it was a tap on the wrist, 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: and then the deal fell apart, and now all these 38 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: additional charges have been filed. 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: That's right, natural consequence of the dismantling, the disintegration in 40 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: real time of that plea agreement that Hunter Biden nearly 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: reached with prosecutors last summer. It was in Wilmington, Delaware 42 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: courtroom where hunter Biden was prepared to plead guilty to 43 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: two tax related misdemeanors, and in exchange, there was going 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: to be a diversion agreement with the prosecution where they 45 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: were going to essentially set aside a felony gun charge 46 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: related to hunter Biden's purchase of a handgun at a 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: time he was an admitted drug user, which is against 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the law, and it was all going to be dispensed 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: with at that time. But when the judge started asking 50 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: critical questions that neither side was prepared to answer about 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: the scope of the immunity that prosecutors were ready to grant, 52 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: and exactly what hunter Biden was getting into, and exactly 53 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: what the responsibility of the court was to oversee the 54 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: compliance with the agreement, things started to fall apart. And 55 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: as a result of it falling apart and the lack 56 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: of an agreement between the sides, prosecution said, all right, 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: we're going to go to trial. We're going to go 58 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: to trial in Delaware on the gun charge and we're 59 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: going to go to trial in California on the tax charge. 60 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: And that's what happened late yesterday the grand jury handed 61 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: up its nine count indictment, adding additional misdemeanors and felony counts. 62 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,119 Speaker 1: But what was really eye opening. It wasn't a surprise 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: that the tax charges are being brought, because we were 64 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: expecting that. What was really eye popping was the fact 65 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: that this indictment was dripping with salacious details of drug 66 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: fueled debauchery, of spending on lavish stays at some of 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: the southern California's most expensive hotels, spending on exotic dancers, pornography, 68 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: membership to an LA sex club, all of which, according 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: to the indictment, prosecutors say Hunter Biden later had his 70 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: accountants deduct as legitimate business expenses. So he's charged with 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: felony tax evasion, felony filing of a false tax return, 72 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: and misdemeanors for failing to pay. He has paid one 73 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: point four million dollars, according to his attorney. His attorney 74 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: also argues that these charges would never be brought if 75 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: his client's last name were not Biden. 76 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 2: Now let's pick it up of this. Oh sorry, Steven, 77 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: when I wanted to pay, We're talk about Stephen Portenoy. 78 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: ABC News National correspondent. And one of the fascinating things 79 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: about this in the light of whistleblowers who have come 80 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: forward from the IRS saying that they would hold hands off, 81 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: don't touch this case. All of this is sort of 82 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: blown up from the missing laptop that showed up and 83 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: then became a news story that was squashed, largely squashed. 84 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: The New York Post first got it, and he apparently 85 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 2: he brought in a laptop to a repair place that 86 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 2: never came back for it. The hard drive was given 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: to Rudy Giuliani and we were off to the races. 88 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: But what's fascinating about this is that they're talking about 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: he's being charged with failure to pay taxes on income, 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: but critics are saying, what about where the income came from? 91 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 2: That The real problem here is not that a drug 92 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: addict behaved badly while on drugs and financially resk recklessly, 93 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 2: But there's this mysterious friend of his who loaned lots 94 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: of money to pay the back taxes and what was 95 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: that about, and bought some of his artwork that he painted, 96 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: and then the other The big issue is about the 97 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: China deals and Barisma and how did he get the money, 98 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: and was he acting as an unregistered foreign lobbyist. 99 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: That last thing you just said maybe something that prosecutors 100 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: could sink their teeth into. And the reason I say 101 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: that is because when the plea agreement was falling apart, 102 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: one of the reasons it did, I believe, is that 103 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: Judge Mary Ellen no Reika asked whether prosecutors might be 104 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: pursuing in their ongoing investigation charges under the Foreign Agents 105 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: Registration Act or FARA, and the prosecution, without elaborating, said 106 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 1: simply yes, that is something that could be pursued. In 107 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: their news release yesterday, the Special Council's team said their 108 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: investigation is ongoing. So the suggestion you could read into 109 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: that is that perhaps more charges might be coming. Next week, 110 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: the House is going to vote to authorize, we expect, 111 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: along party lines, the ongoing impeachment inquiry into the president. 112 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: The White House insists that it's a political stunt, that 113 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: there's no evidence and they won't be able to find 114 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: any that the President benefited in any way from his 115 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: son and brothers business dealings. But Republicans are insistent upon 116 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: looking a little deeper and by passing this resolution authorizing 117 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: the impeachment inquiry, the House, Republicans will be able to 118 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,280 Speaker 1: go into federal court and say the House is at 119 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: the apex of its investigative power, because right now it's 120 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: the constitutional question that's at play, but whether the House 121 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: should act to impeach the President of the United States 122 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: and force a trial in the Senate, And before it 123 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: can reach that decision, it has to do this investigation. 124 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 1: And if there's an attempt on the part of the 125 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: White House to prevent some of the evidence or testimony 126 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: from being given, well, the courts the House will argue 127 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: should weigh and the houses on the House's. 128 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: Behalf all right, Well, Steven, obviously this is a story 129 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: that's not going away, so we'll be talking more about it. 130 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for being well with Stephen Portnoy from ABC News. 131 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 2: Appreciate it now. I followed this story very closely from 132 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 2: the very beginning, from when it was first reported in 133 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 2: the New York Post before the twenty twenty election, and 134 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: of course immediately there was just a flood of debunking 135 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 2: of the laptop connection and the data that was on 136 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: the laptop, and what people latched onto were the lurid 137 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 2: photos of Hunter Biden nude with women and with guns, 138 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 2: and drugs and blah blah blah blah blah. But what's 139 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: always intrigued me is the email chain between Hunter Biden 140 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 2: and some of his business partners, including this guy Bobolinsky, 141 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: who referred to President Biden, who was then vice president 142 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: through most of this, as the big guy, and it 143 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: certainly implied that there was a quid pro quo for 144 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 2: buying access. Now, I'm not an investigator. I just know 145 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: that in this age of corruption and cynicism about everything, 146 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: that if any of these stories had been related to 147 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: Donald Trump Junior or to Eric Trump, the media would 148 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: have been all over it. 149 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: They'd be all over it like you know, a wolf 150 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: on a port chop. 151 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: And this story has been shoved to the back burner 152 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: and it won't go away, and it shouldn't go away. 153 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 2: The American public needs to know whether or not while 154 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: all of these charges against Trump have come forth and 155 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: trials are going forward, a very serious ones, especially Georgia 156 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: and the January sixth trials in Washing, it really hugely 157 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 2: significant ethical but we need to know whether or not 158 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: the current president was selling access to his rolodex, to 159 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 2: his office, whether his through his son. Now, I'll give 160 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: you an example of how this went back in the days, 161 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: and it's going way back. But when Bill Clinton was 162 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: governor of Arkansas, I think the governor of Arkansas at 163 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: the time made thirty two five thirty two, five hundred 164 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: dollars a year. It wasn't They weren't getting rich with 165 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: him as governor of Arkansas. Meanwhile, missus Clinton, Hillary Clinton, 166 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: was on the Rose Law firm, and basically their deal 167 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: was He's going to get the political power and she 168 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 2: was going to get the money. 169 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: All right. 170 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: A lot of people do that, some people, some couples. 171 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: Somebody's a social worker and somebody else's a venture capitalist, 172 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 2: and one's working for the good of the public and 173 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: the other one is working for the good of the 174 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 2: family fortune. Nothing wrong with that, nothing illegal about that. 175 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 2: But there is something illegal about it if you are 176 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: selling access to the government to that you can as 177 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 2: a quid pro quo in exchange for this money, you 178 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: pick up the phone and make some phone calls. I 179 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 2: want this done, or I want you to meet with 180 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: this person who ordinarily would never get in to see 181 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 2: the power brokers on Capitol Hill, et cetera, or wherever 182 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: you want. I mean, look, this is what's been going 183 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 2: on at La City Hall, that it's a whole paid 184 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: to play scandal on a smaller scale, or who knows. 185 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 2: But before we go into yet another election, I think 186 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: it is fair that we have an actual accounting And 187 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: I don't think that the Democrats do us any favors 188 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: by trying to stone all these investigations. If there's nothing 189 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: to hide, then you got nothing to fear. It's the 190 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: same thing. You can't turn around as like the Trump 191 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 2: people have dragged their feet, kicking and screaming trying to 192 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: stop all these investigations. And the American public needs to 193 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: know what was going on on January sixth and in 194 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 2: the aftermath, was the President of the United States trying 195 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: to subvert the election in Atlanta and the electric College vote. 196 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know why everybody doesn't care about this. 197 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 2: This isn't a partisan issue. It's an integrity of the 198 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: electoral process issue. And you know, you know, remember back 199 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: Richard Nixon, before Nixon ran into his buzz solve problems. 200 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: I've always thought that somebody knew where that was going 201 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 2: because they got rid of Spiro Agnew. First, Spiro Agnew 202 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: was the vice president of the United States and he 203 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 2: was a crook. He was taking envelopes with ten thousand 204 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: dollars in cash when he was the governor of Maryland, 205 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: and you know, that story blew up and they ushered 206 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: him to the door before Watergate took down Richard Nixon, 207 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: because I think folks in the note said, we can't 208 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 2: have Nixon resign and then the next guy who becomes 209 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 2: vice president now becomes president and he's a crook. 210 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 4: Two. 211 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: You know, we got to do some house cleaning. 212 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm at the point where everybody should 213 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 2: be investigated. It's not asking too much that the person 214 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 2: that we entrust with the greatest honor the American people 215 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: have in their power to give to a human being, 216 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 2: the presidency of the United States, not be criminals. All right, 217 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: it's not asking too much. And if there's nothing to hide, 218 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 2: then go forward and answer the questions and open up 219 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: all the financial records, and let's be done with it. 220 00:11:59,200 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: All right. 221 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, we'll talk about the other side of public service, 222 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: which is it is a very risky profession, not just 223 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: because you're gonna have people like me mouth and off 224 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: on the radio about you, because people threaten to kill you, 225 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 2: it's an epidemic right now. We'll get into that just 226 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: a bit. We're on Otani Watch. Where's he gonna land? 227 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: Rumor Mill says he may announce today, So we'll talk 228 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: with David Vesse about that coming up in just a bit. 229 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 2: Alex Michaelson is following Gavin Newsom around from a respectful distance, 230 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 2: I presume. But we'll find out what the governor has 231 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: been up to and get into this budget story, etc. Meanwhile, 232 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: this story CNN and you can read it on the 233 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: website at cnn dot com. It's a big investigative report 234 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: on the explosive rise of threats against public officials, both 235 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: elected and bureaucrats, etc. At all levels of government, by 236 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 2: the way, and across party line. In fact, an analysis 237 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 2: showed that it was pretty evenly split from the Trump 238 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 2: administration into the first couple of years of the Biden 239 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 2: administration on you know, Conservatives and Republicans and Democrats being 240 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: threatned Trump and Biden. Arra's Republicans and Democrats were targeted 241 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 2: almost even the eighty two threats leveled at named Republican 242 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: officials and eighty threats against named Democrats. 243 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: So it basically, as you know. 244 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: In the age of anonymity online anonymity in particular anybody 245 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: who is in public life happens with celebrities and dosing 246 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 2: and these these fake uh you know, uh they some 247 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: people prank by calling in the cops and say there's 248 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: an armed intruder in a house of some celebrity, and 249 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: the next thing you know, there's a bunch of swat 250 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 2: people going into someone's house. 251 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: Very scary situation. 252 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: What we saw with Nancy Pelosi's husband being attacked in 253 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 2: San Francisco, the level of attacks and the threats of 254 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: attacks is really intimidating. 255 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: Here's the sound. 256 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Here's a little audio. These are actual phone messages that 257 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: were left. Uh. The first one I'm gonna play for 258 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 2: you is Clint Hickman, who's on the Board of Supervisors 259 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: in Maricopa County, Arizona. So it just shows you that 260 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 2: that it doesn't have to be the president, doesn't have 261 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: to be the Secretary of State or somebody prominent like that, 262 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: could be somebody in a relatively minor position. What a liar. 263 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 4: PC pile it The great reset con corrupt politician. 264 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 2: Matt Gates, the infamous Matt Gates who helped topple and 265 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 2: that didn't help. He led the charge that ended up 266 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: in uh, the Speaker of the House of Representatives resigning. Uh. 267 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 3: This is this is a message that was left on 268 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: his answering machine. Oh, mister Hickman, you're gonna die. 269 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 4: We're gonna hang you. 270 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 3: Sorry. 271 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: That's the second one on Clint Hickman. But let's go 272 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 2: to the play the Matt Gates to the third one. 273 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: Tell Matt Gates to watch his back, tell them to 274 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: watch his children. 275 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 4: He's gonna guy. 276 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: So you know, that's scary enough when you're a member 277 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: of the United States House of Representatives. But like I said, 278 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: this is going to election boards, this is going to 279 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: school boards, this is going to I don't know, for 280 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 2: all I know the Visiting Nurses Association. We're living in 281 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 2: an age where it's very easy to pick up a 282 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: phone or send an email through some kind of laundered 283 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: URL and just hide your trail and make these threats. 284 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: And the bigger issue about it, besides the scary nature 285 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: of it, the personal terror that this implies, is it 286 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: discourages people from getting involved in the system at all. 287 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: And it's a real mobocracy, it really is. 288 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 2: We're living in an age where we're having a sort 289 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 2: of a low grade crystal knock take place, literally targeting 290 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Jewish businesses in the wake of the Israeli attack, the 291 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: attack on Israel and the resulting war in Gaza, but 292 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: the rise of anti Semitism, all the isms and the 293 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 2: incredible political rankers, somehow people feel empowered to pick up 294 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: the phone and make these horrific threats against people that 295 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: they're mad at for whatever reason. And then folks have 296 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 2: to go to work every day, or you have to 297 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: go to work on the staff, and some of them 298 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: are followed through. We have letters showing up with fentanyl 299 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 2: in them, and fentanyl could be enormously deadly. We saw 300 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 2: rice in attacks, we saw anthrax attacks, we saw packages 301 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: sent to people that are really scary and sometimes lethal. So, 302 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: you know, while obviously in talk radio we like to 303 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 2: point a finger at politicians who are behaving badly in 304 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 2: terms of policy that we perceive as bad for the 305 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: community or bad for the country that isn't well, unfortunately, 306 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: for people who aren't psychologically healthy, they take it as 307 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 2: a red flag to threaten. 308 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: The lives of people. 309 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: And it's really a danger, I mean unbelievably dangerous because 310 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: what happens is it is a mobocracy. It's like a 311 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: mob that's coming after people and people then folks say, 312 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: I'm not running for office, I don't want to serve 313 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: on a school board, I don't want to be involved 314 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: in my community at even these low levels neighborhood councils 315 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 2: and things like that, which is just volunteer positions where 316 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: people have stepped forward to try to solve problems in 317 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: the community, and maybe they have a strong ideological bent 318 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: one way or the other. 319 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 3: But when you have. 320 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: People threatening to kill you as a result of to 321 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: kill your family members, or vandalize your home or take 322 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: it to your house, well then people say I'm not 323 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: going to be bothered. Well then who does it? Who's 324 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: going to do this work. It's a real dangerous threat 325 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 2: and it's got to be taken very seriously. Anyway, you'll 326 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: read it on CNN dot com. Very interesting and it's 327 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: surprisingly bipartisan in terms of the level of threats that 328 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: are coming out are across the political space. On Saturday tomorrow, 329 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to be at David K. Books in Woodland 330 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: Hills signing my novel Frank Shadow. 331 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 3: David K. 332 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 2: Books is right on Ventura Boulevard between Shoop and Fallbrook 333 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 2: between noon and two pm. So if you're out and about, 334 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 2: come on buy and say hello. 335 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: I love to see you. 336 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: McIntyre in for John and Ken on Tuesday. This is 337 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,719 Speaker 2: the John Cobbolt Show. So I'll be back on Monday 338 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: from one to four as well, and hopefully you will 339 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,439 Speaker 2: join us at that time. And we're gonna have an 340 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 2: interesting conversation with an author named Max Marsha who's written 341 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 2: a book called Among the Bros. 342 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 3: A fraternity murder. Because we love murder. Anyway, we'll get 343 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,959 Speaker 3: into all of that right now. 344 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: As you know, Gavin Newsom certainly made national news with 345 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: his debate against Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, and he's also 346 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 2: made some news locally because shortly eighteen hours after talk 347 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 2: about how great the California economy is, the Legislative Analyst 348 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 2: Office came out and said, not so fast to talk 349 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: to us about it, because he's been with the governor today. 350 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: It's a pleasure back to this show from Fox eleven. 351 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 3: Alex Michael said, Alex, how are you. 352 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: I'm great, Doug, big fan of you and excited to 353 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 4: talk to you. 354 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: Well, we're happy to have you and God knows, I 355 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 2: could use all the fans I can get. So what 356 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 2: was the governor up to today? 357 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the real reason that he's here in 358 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: southern California is to welcome Bremond and Biden to town. 359 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,719 Speaker 4: He's going to be greeting him at the tarmac at 360 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 4: four forty five and then going to the big fundraiser later. 361 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: But while in town, he spent some time focused on 362 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 4: Proposition of one, which is his big effort to try 363 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 4: to expand mental health services, to build eleven thousand new 364 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 4: mental health beds, to kind of change the way the 365 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: funding is done on mental health. It's going to be 366 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 4: sort of the biggest push of anything he's going to 367 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: do on the ballot in March. A new poll this 368 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: week showed about two thirds of California and support the 369 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: idea you'll be seeing punted up Proposition one. 370 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: Has he did he has he said anything or responded 371 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 2: at all to the UH to the new budget gap 372 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: that has arrived. It's not even a budget gap, it's 373 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: a budget chasm. It's billions and billions of dollars in 374 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: the red. 375 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: I just I just interviewed him literally ten minutes ago 376 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: at a at a rehabilitation center in Venice called Phoenix 377 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: House that is helping people when it comes to proposition one, 378 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: and I asked him about the budget. He said that 379 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: it's not going to be as bad as people think, 380 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 4: that the numbers aren't as bad as reported, that there 381 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: are clue going to be budget challenges, but he said, 382 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 4: do not expect what we saw, you know, during the 383 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 4: Brown and Schwarzeneger years, because we have a lot more 384 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 4: reserves at like twenty five thirty billion dollars in reserves, 385 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: and he's been doing a lot of one time spending 386 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 4: deals knowing that it's coming. He said he'd beat twenty 387 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 4: two billion dollars in spending last year to try to, 388 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 4: you know, anticipate some of this is happening. So it 389 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: was interesting that his message on that was really kind 390 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: of camp down that story that it's not as bad 391 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: as people think. 392 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 3: We're talking with Alex Michaelson from Fox eleven so Newsome. 393 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: Obviously he's been running this sort of shadow campaign for president, 394 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: which has really been I don't remember ever seeing anything 395 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: quite like this, because at the same time he's saying, 396 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 2: oh no, I'm on, I am like the biggest cheerleader 397 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: of Joe Biden. I am on Team Biden all the way, 398 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: and he's going to be the next president of the 399 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: United States in twenty twenty four and beyond. And yet 400 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 2: he's been doing things like the debate with Ron DeSantis, 401 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: which seemed to be making himself the pre eminent inheritor 402 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: to the nomination should things change in the Democratic side. 403 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 4: That's certainly the way most people would look at it. 404 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean, he would say that he was 405 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 4: being helpful as a surrogate for the Biden Harris team 406 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 4: to go on Fox News and Network where there aren't 407 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 4: a lot of high profile Democrats speaking, and to try 408 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 4: to speak to some people maybe in the middle, and 409 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 4: expose them to different ideas, to defend them whenever he can, 410 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: and that he's trying to be helpful to the party. 411 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 4: I mean, the Biden Harris team actually sent him to 412 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 4: the Republican debate and see the valley at their official surrogate, 413 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 4: and the President will be greeting him in California, will 414 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: be the first person he greets, So you know, they're 415 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 4: trying to show that there's no daylight there. But I 416 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 4: don't know if it's helpful for the Biden campaign to 417 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 4: have a much younger, more vibrant person on the stage 418 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 4: debating a presidential candidate when Joe Biden is not doing 419 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 4: a lot of press conferences, not doing a lot of interviews, 420 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: and you know, he isn't debating anybody running against him 421 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 4: in the Democratic Party. 422 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 2: Well, I certainly can't imagine that Vice President Harris Kamala 423 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 2: Harris is happy about about any of this, because it's 424 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: almost like he's nudging her to the side. But above 425 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 2: beyond that, to me, In that DeSantis Gavin Newsom show, 426 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 2: that the big takeaway line was when Newsom, in a 427 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 2: response to snark from Desanta, said, look, here's one thing 428 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: I can say, neither one of us are going to 429 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: be the nominee for the party in twenty twenty four, 430 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 2: which was a way of it's a nice shot against 431 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: DeSantis and again distancing saying I'm not running. But meanwhile, 432 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 2: why in the world is he there? I mean, Joe 433 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: Biden's not running against Ron DeSantis either. 434 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: I mean, it's. 435 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 4: It's just, of course, there's some just made the point 436 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 4: because I kind of asked him that and he said, well, 437 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 4: why is Rhonda Santis there? It's weird that, you know, 438 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 4: I'm not running for president. What does he do in 439 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 4: wasting his time debating me when he's running for president. So, 440 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: I mean, look, at the end of the day, both 441 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: Newsom and Destantis clearly enjoy and need national attention, yeah, 442 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 4: and are looking for that. And so both of them 443 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 4: got an opportunity to talk to their bases. Both of 444 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: them got an opportunity to manufacture social media videos that 445 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 4: they could post to people that like them and that 446 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 4: get them in front of other eyeballs and help them 447 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 4: raise money and help people talk about them. Because part 448 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: of the challenge for newsomendo stands and frankly an entire 449 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:22,359 Speaker 4: next generation of politicians is the last generation is clinging 450 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 4: on power. I mean, you got a guy in his 451 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: eighties and a guy almost in his eighties that are 452 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 4: still there. In a regular cycle of life, you know, 453 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 4: those people would have retired already and they would have 454 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: their opportunity to lead right now is basically frozen. 455 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: No, it's the leadership of this country of both parties 456 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 2: looks like a fire at the wax Museum. I mean, 457 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 2: it's just it's just not pretty. We're talking about Alex 458 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: Michaelson for Fox eleven. Alex where is the president doing 459 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 2: this fundraiser that he's flown in for. 460 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: He's flying in for. 461 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 4: It's in Santa Monica. That's the home of the former 462 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 4: ambassador to Spain and his husband, who's an interior designer 463 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 4: who had worked on interior designing the White House. And 464 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 4: some of the co hosts for the evening include Steven 465 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 4: Spielberg and Shonda Rhimes and Rick Caruso, who also is 466 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 4: putting up big money to showcase his support for the 467 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 4: Democratic Party, and Joe Biden. 468 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: I should have done that a few months ago. Maybe 469 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: it'd be mayor anyway. You know here, listen, you're hanging 470 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: around with the right people. 471 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: I'm not. 472 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: I mean, Sharon Belly won't even talk to me, so 473 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 2: you know, but when you're talking to that governer, you'll 474 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: see the president whatever. I want you to pass along 475 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 2: this unsolicited idea that I think could be a game 476 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 2: changer for this president and all presidents who come to 477 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 2: Los Angeles far into the future to do fundrations, because 478 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 2: when they come here, everybody hates them, even people vote 479 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: for them because they mess up traffic. 480 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: So here's my model proposal. 481 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 2: We have that empty theme restaurant at Lax that big 482 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 2: round thing that looks like a spaceship in the middle 483 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: of the horseshop. 484 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 3: Okay, that should be the designated. 485 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: Cash grab drop off point for all politicians who come 486 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 2: to la They fly into Lax, they take a shuttle 487 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: to the restaurant, they pick up the checks, and they 488 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: go right back to Air Force one and get out 489 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: of town and nobody is inconvenienced. 490 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 4: That's brilliant. But you just fixed it, You solved it. 491 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 3: That's what I'm here for. I'm a problem solver. 492 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 4: Although a little bit of good news for the president 493 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: tonight and everybody gives a story that everybody actually cares 494 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 4: about his traffic and how's it going to affect my commute? 495 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 4: He is going to be helicoptering from Lax to Santa Monica, 496 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: so I don't anticipate closures of the four h five 497 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: at rush hour later today. It should be minimal closures 498 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: and sort of rolling closures in Thetamonia. 499 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 500 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, my luck. 501 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 2: The one day I'm taking a helicopter home and he 502 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 2: has to take calla Alex, thanks so much for being 503 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: able to us appreciate it. Alex Michaelson. Okay from Fox eleven, 504 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 2: we at the next hour. If you think Taylor Swift 505 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: is big, and she is big, her errors tour broke 506 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 2: the billion dollar barrier and they expect it will crack 507 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: the two billion dollar barrier before she's done. And this 508 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 2: isn't even counting the movie that made a fortune. She's 509 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: also a class at UC Berkeley. You can take a 510 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 2: class in Taylor Swift. We're going to talk with the 511 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: teacher who teaches the artistry and entrepreneurship Taylor's version at 512 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 2: the next hour, so you don't want to miss that. 513 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 514 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: AM six forty. 515 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,200 Speaker 2: Coming up at the top of the next hour, we're 516 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 2: going to talk about majoring in Taylor Swift, which a 517 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: lot of you are out there doing apparently, so this story. 518 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: It's not a secret that during the pandemic, of course, 519 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: we went to remote learning, just the way we went 520 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 2: to remote work. And by the way, speaking of the 521 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: remote work thing, I can't figure out when people go 522 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: to work anymore. I really can't, because the traffic patterns 523 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 2: make no sense in this city anymore. Used to be 524 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: pretty predictable. I play old man softball a couple times 525 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: a week. Three times a week since as I'm on 526 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 2: the one on one freeway and I'm going seventy five 527 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: miles an hour, and then a day later, it's the 528 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: way it used to be, just a complete quagmire. And 529 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: it just doesn't seem to be any consistent pattern of 530 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: when people are going to work anymore. 531 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: But Doug, what about on Fridays? Right, there's nobody. It 532 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: takes me hardly any time to get here. But then 533 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 3: when I'm leaving, it's packed every Friday. 534 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 2: Well, thank everybody's going to Vegas and going to Santa Barbara. 535 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: I don't know where they're going from. No, it's really bizarre. 536 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: And you know, it's the same thing with kids. You know, 537 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 2: we know that the remote learning phenomenon during COVID has 538 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 2: now spilled over, but lo of kids have just never 539 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 2: come back to school, or if they come back to school, 540 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 2: they're like people here at KFI. They show up once 541 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 2: in a while. In this place at ghost Town. We 542 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 2: could have a bowling alley in the hallway, so there's 543 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: nobody here. There's tumbleweeds. I saw tumbleweeds in the break 544 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 2: round and that's usually the room where everybody is. Yep, 545 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: And I had to elbow add away from the vending 546 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: machine to get a Reese's Pinopotter coup earlier. Sorry about that, 547 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 2: by the way, I didn't mean to hit you that hard. 548 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: But anyway, here's the deal. Seventy percent of the highest 549 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: poverty schools experience widespread chronic absenteism in the twenty one 550 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: twenty two school year, compared to twenty five percent before 551 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: the pandemic. So that's a huge explosive growth, especially in 552 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: the poorer communities the school districts with the highest rates 553 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 2: of poverty. But it wasn't just there. In Ohio, for instance, 554 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: absenteeism spike thirty percent in the twenty one to twenty 555 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 2: two school year from nearly seventeen percent of students in 556 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen twenty nineteen. By the way, they define chronic 557 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 2: absenteeism as missing a at least ten percent of school days, 558 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: so which comes out to about two days a month. 559 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: In the most affluent schools, widespread chronic absenteeism also increased 560 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: to fourteen percent of schools, up from three percent before 561 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: the pandemic. So people are just they're out of the 562 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: habit of going to school every day, and you know, 563 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 2: there are the American school year. And I know kids 564 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: hate here in this and I would have hated here, 565 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: and is that would say I would have been if 566 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,719 Speaker 2: I was in the car and my father was listening 567 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: to this show when the host said what I'm about 568 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 2: to say? Are you shut up? You shut up, gas bag. 569 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, the American school year is way 570 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 2: too short. You look at schools in Korea, in Japan 571 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: and all over the world. Kids are in school much longer, 572 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: for a much longer days. They just have more opportunities 573 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: to learn stuff. And we've got all these mandates that 574 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 2: are on top of them, and what history is squeezed 575 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: into sixth grade and the sophomore year of high school 576 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 2: and that's it. And so if you have the flu, 577 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: you misreconstruction, you know you can miss Really you have 578 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 2: missed one day at school, and that might be the 579 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 2: only opportunity you ever have to learn about the Bill 580 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 2: of Rights. I wish I was making that up, but 581 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: it's really And we're living with the consequences by the 582 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: way we've been living with the consequences when we stop 583 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: teaching civics profoundly. I mean, I think that's one of 584 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 2: the reasons why nobody wants to vote, Because would you 585 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: watch a game that you didn't know the rules? I 586 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: mean I watched that. I'm flipping the channels around. You're 587 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: on channel eight hundred. There's English rules football. I have 588 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 2: no idea what they're doing. Are curling and it's guys 589 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: on ice throwing a big round thing around with brooms, 590 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: yelling ah. 591 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 3: I have no idea what they're doing, so I just 592 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 3: keep going by. 593 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: Well, if you don't understand how the political process works, 594 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: why would you get involved in it? 595 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: I mean, you literally have no and then when you 596 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 3: do hear about it, it's all crooks. 597 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: It's just people grabbing cash or stealing something or lying 598 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 2: about somebody. So there's real consequences for this, but you 599 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 2: gotta be you know, what's the old cliche that ninety 600 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: percent of success is showing up. 601 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's the same thing in school. 602 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: At least if you show up, there's a chance that 603 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 2: something might accidentally stick to the old brain pan. I 604 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: remember Geene Shepherd, who is my hero in life. I 605 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 2: still want to be Gene Shepherd. Most of you know 606 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 2: him from a Christmas story. He wrote the movie and 607 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: that's his voice voicing doing all the voice over the 608 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 2: movie A Christmas Story. 609 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: And he was a radio guy in New York for many, 610 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 3: many years and a brill. 611 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 2: He didn't take calls, he didn't talk politics, He just 612 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 2: told stories. 613 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: He really would be a podcaster today. But he was 614 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 3: a genius. 615 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 2: And I remember him saying he wrote a short story 616 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 2: called Lost to See about how everything was alphabetical. He 617 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: sat alphabetically, so he was in the back with the 618 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: Zinzmeisters and the Quigglies. His name was Geene Shepherd, so 619 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: he's in the asses. He's way in the back. And 620 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: one day, because of an environmental, anomally, some kind of 621 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 2: weather pressure in the classroom, he heard a piece of 622 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 2: information that managed to float all the way to the 623 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 2: back of the classroom. Bolivia exports ten. And he told 624 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 2: his father Bolivia exports ten. And his father was so 625 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 2: impressed with this range of knowledge, these kids that they 626 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: have that had family gathered, he said, tell him about 627 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 2: Bolivia and he'd have to get up and stand at 628 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving dinner table say Bolivia exports ten. The only thing 629 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: he ever heard in his entire school career, went to 630 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: his whole life knowing just that, well, we're not that 631 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: far removed from this. Seriously, if you're gonna miss all 632 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 2: those days of school, the chances of even hearing the 633 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 2: Bolivia Exports ten aren't great. All right, we got another 634 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: hour to go. We're gonna talk with the one speaking 635 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 2: of school. I bet you nobody. I bet you the 636 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: absenteeism in the Taylor Swift class is zero. Everybody goes 637 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 2: all the time. In fact, you'll probably get twenty five 638 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: hundred dollars on stub Hub for a seat in the 639 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift class. We gotta ask about that. We're going 640 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 2: to talk with the professor Crystal Harianto is her name. 641 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 2: She teaches that UC Berkeley a class call Artistry and Entrepreneurship, 642 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: Taylor's version. 643 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: We'll get into that. 644 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 2: We're gonna check up on with David Vasse, mister La 645 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 2: Dodgers of what are the chances that Dodgers get Otani. 646 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: The rumor is he may announce today. 647 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John and Ken Show. 648 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: You can always hear us live on KFI AM six 649 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: forty one pm to four pm every Monday through Friday, 650 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.