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Speaker 1: And now your hosts. Brian brought us Kyle Yeomans and
Speaker 1: David Hellman. It's Tuesday, April twenty sixth. Do you know
Speaker 1: what that means? It is draft week, a little more
Speaker 1: than forty eight hours from now. The twenty two NFL
Speaker 1: Draft will start a little bit after that. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: will we think, make at least one addition to their
Speaker 1: roster on Thursday night. Guys, it's it's here. Brian brought
Speaker 1: us Kyle Yeoman's Bobby belt as usual. It feels like
Speaker 1: it was just yesterday that we were talking about the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl rosters, and here we are ready to get
Speaker 1: into the gritty. Unless anybody's got sue something super pressing
Speaker 1: to say, we're gonna I know that this episode is
Speaker 1: gonna fly by, so we're just gonna hop right into it.
Speaker 1: If it's okay with you, absolutely, let's do it. We're
Speaker 1: all doing well. Thank you for asking. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Bright No maps, that's the press, hopefully while we're broadcasting
Speaker 1: the draft on Thursday night. The MAVs will be closing
Speaker 1: out that series. Sorry for the like five Utah jazz
Speaker 1: slash Cowboy fans that are out there. No, no, they're
Speaker 1: out there. No harm intended, but yeah, go maps. Anyway,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a seven round live mock guys. I'm
Speaker 1: excited about this. I'm excited to see where we can
Speaker 1: take it. So this is how we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be your draft ganned off for the day.
Speaker 1: I'm I've sort of put this whole thing together. I've
Speaker 1: got an idea of what's in front of us, but
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave it all up to you. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let y'all sort of guide us where we go,
Speaker 1: whether you want to trade up, trade back, stand and
Speaker 1: pick all that type of thing. Y'all can sort of
Speaker 1: committee this thing and we'll see where it goes. Now,
Speaker 1: are we working together? As where are the front office?
Speaker 1: You are the Cowboys front office? Okay? I am just
Speaker 1: the guy running the draft basically, So without further ado,
Speaker 1: let's hop right into it. Thursday night comes. I don't
Speaker 1: think the first two picks of this draft are gonna
Speaker 1: be surprising. I think it's gonna be Aiden Hutchinson and
Speaker 1: Tryvan Walker in some order. If I had to guess.
Speaker 1: In this scenario, Aiden Hutchinson goes number one overall of
Speaker 1: the Jags. The Detroit Lions follow that up with Trayvon Walker.
Speaker 1: Pick three is where it gets interesting for me. Sauce
Speaker 1: Gardner goes three overall to the Houston Texans. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody would be crazy surprised by that. Well, what's
Speaker 1: the chatter lately that's out there is maybe even as
Speaker 1: high as Stanley could go there and be the real
Speaker 1: surprise at three. I've heard them very tied to cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: so I think that's something we've got to pay attention to.
Speaker 1: Run on Tackles begins right away with the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: uncertainty surrounding McKay beck and Ikey Aquanu from NC State
Speaker 1: goes four overall. Right after that, like we've been hammering
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, the New York Giants take
Speaker 1: Evan Neil. Now, Brian, I want to pause briefly here
Speaker 1: because this sixth draft spot is something we've talked a
Speaker 1: lot about. Um, you know, if the Cowboys want to
Speaker 1: get uber aggressive obviously, a couple of guys that they've
Speaker 1: brought in on visits, Charles Cross Drake London are obviously
Speaker 1: still available. There's the Cavon Thibodeau after effect. Just crunching
Speaker 1: the math on this, I think you can get up
Speaker 1: there for your one and year two go from twenty
Speaker 1: four to six. Does that sound appealing to anybody in
Speaker 1: this room? It does, Yeah, it does. You know, again,
Speaker 1: you're looking at Carolina on the Cowboys strap board or
Speaker 1: their chart. It would be about sixteen hundred points at Carolina.
Speaker 1: You're currently sitting at seven forty yourself. Your second round
Speaker 1: pick is worth three forty, so I mean it's close.
Speaker 1: You might have to throw a couple as Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that would be a You know, I don't think
Speaker 1: Carolina would try and hold you up because I'm kind
Speaker 1: of getting a vibe in the middle of the board
Speaker 1: that those teams with multiple first round picks are interested
Speaker 1: in moving out of there and moving so maybe the
Speaker 1: price of poker. You know, you could kind of convince Carolina,
Speaker 1: like listen, everybody behind you is willing to get out
Speaker 1: of their spot. You know, you could take this, this
Speaker 1: will be our best offer, and if you don't want
Speaker 1: to do it, then we'll find a way to go
Speaker 1: back and maybe get it one of these other spots.
Speaker 1: You know. I think that Houston at thirteen is a
Speaker 1: team you could talk about maybe moving. Minnesota at twelve
Speaker 1: was another one, Baltimore at fourteen. So there's teams right
Speaker 1: behind Carolina that are interested in moving if you can
Speaker 1: wait on your guy. But if you have somebody clearly
Speaker 1: in mind, you know, I think that is that is
Speaker 1: the questions, like, do you have somebody clearly if just
Speaker 1: reading tea leaves, I think the Cowboys would be doing
Speaker 1: it for Charles Cross. That's probably my thought process with
Speaker 1: it as well. The other thing you think about here too, Brian,
Speaker 1: and I completely agree with you, is the fact that
Speaker 1: the Panthers only have one first round pick. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's smoke where they could be looking at a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard anything specifically about that too.
Speaker 1: About they like Kenny Pickett. It's one of the only
Speaker 1: spots where he's actually favored to go over Malik Willis
Speaker 1: in the first round. So if they like Kenny Pickett enough,
Speaker 1: are they willing to trade out of that pick and
Speaker 1: go all the way back down to twenty four or
Speaker 1: is it going to cost you more? See that's I
Speaker 1: think I think they're worried a little bit about the
Speaker 1: minefield that they're going to have to walk on that quarterback,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I mentioned all those teams with
Speaker 1: multiple picks. Is somebody going to if they come all
Speaker 1: the way down to twenty four and they're hunting that quarterback?
Speaker 1: And then I mentioned all those teams that are interested
Speaker 1: in moving that second first round pick. Philadelphia might be
Speaker 1: a team. You know, you just have to be like
Speaker 1: mindful that, hey, you could lose your quarterback somebody coming
Speaker 1: up the board and making a making a little bit
Speaker 1: of an aggressive play. Maybe Pittsburgh would be a team
Speaker 1: that I would think of that could be, you know,
Speaker 1: a team that so, yeah, you have to be able
Speaker 1: to evaluate where you can land. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if Carolina going from six to twenty four is really
Speaker 1: the best thing for them. Who are the threats? It's
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks. It's Pittsburgh. But I think Pittsburgh. Everything we
Speaker 1: hear coming out of Pittsburgh is they really like Willis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so Willis. I don't think Washington. I think Washington
Speaker 1: people looking and go, oh, they could take a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I was here in Washington is really high on Hamilton
Speaker 1: and really high on Drake London. Yeah, and that that's
Speaker 1: where they're kind of narrowed at this. I kind of
Speaker 1: was thinking more what you were talking about with the
Speaker 1: Saints and then also though with the with the Steelers
Speaker 1: though those were the two teams. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know if they can if they can drop all the
Speaker 1: way there. I think if if Carolina is looking at this,
Speaker 1: they have to say, Okay, we'll drop to the middle
Speaker 1: of the board. You know, well we'll figure out. I mean,
Speaker 1: that might be a spot. I think the Saints aren't
Speaker 1: done moving myself. I think the Saints the team that
Speaker 1: maybe and here's Carolina, would you would trade within your
Speaker 1: division there? You know, I kind of I'll tell you
Speaker 1: this trade within your division to potentially give a different Yeah.
Speaker 1: But also I've also heard this though too about the
Speaker 1: general manager that Scott Federer. He's he's in a mode
Speaker 1: right now where he might let this head coach hang
Speaker 1: himself that he's willing seriously and I know now this
Speaker 1: is this is one of those things where I think
Speaker 1: that he's I think this GM's willing to move on.
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's willing to move on
Speaker 1: from his coach. And you know, with that being said,
Speaker 1: it might be okay, yeah, go ahead and take this guy,
Speaker 1: or go ahead and make a move and go ahead
Speaker 1: and jack it all up, and then when you get fired,
Speaker 1: I'll hire the guy I want to hire and we'll
Speaker 1: go from there. That that's the kind of crap that
Speaker 1: goes on in in football offices all the time. Man,
Speaker 1: that didn't take long to fall from grace. Hum. No,
Speaker 1: not at all, not at all. But that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of where that's where the general manager at Carolina really is.
Speaker 1: There are some definite downsides to the Cowboys model of
Speaker 1: ownership running the front office, but at least you avoid
Speaker 1: some of that type of stuff I think. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would bumm me out so hard as a fan
Speaker 1: to just be like, yeah, my GM's gonna stab the
Speaker 1: head coach in the back this weekend. Well, the gym's
Speaker 1: just gonna let him go. Yeah, you're like, okay, you
Speaker 1: want that guy, sure, take that guy. And then when
Speaker 1: the guy doesn't work out, then boomed. Then you know
Speaker 1: they're not gonna fire me. They're gonna fire you for
Speaker 1: being an idiot. All right. So with all of that said, Carolina,
Speaker 1: I don't think moves, okay, And I don't think Dallas
Speaker 1: goods there. You don't you don't think they move period,
Speaker 1: or you don't think they move back that far. I
Speaker 1: just know I don't think they move back that far. Okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If they move, I see it being more toward like
Speaker 1: the eleven, twelve thirty. Yeah. So with that in mind,
Speaker 1: Carolina stays put. Charles Cross is the pick, which it's
Speaker 1: almost like they were reading quarterbacks. No, they did not.
Speaker 1: They go Charles Cross. The New York Giants again at seven,
Speaker 1: then linked heavily to Sauce Gardner, but he is gone.
Speaker 1: They opt for Kyle Hamilton at seventh overall. Pick Cavon
Speaker 1: Thibodeau drops all the way to eight, and the Falcons
Speaker 1: stop that in a hurry, adding arguably the best pass
Speaker 1: rusher in the draft at eight overall. Not a bad
Speaker 1: strategy in my opinion. Seattle with maybe the first true
Speaker 1: surprise of this draft, Trevor Penning at ninth overall. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure how to feel about that, but that's their apps.
Speaker 1: Your thought process there? Why why did he go there?
Speaker 1: I didn't do that. They didn't say it simul Okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was a simulator. I thought you
Speaker 1: did this yourself. My bad. I mean, I put a
Speaker 1: lot of work into this, but I did not like manually.
Speaker 1: I thought, at least for the first round, you were
Speaker 1: a surprise. I surprised myself. I trook Penning. Trevor Penning
Speaker 1: goes nine, which I disagree with, but I don't run
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I wouldn't be stunned of Penning goes top
Speaker 1: ten though. Really it's Walker still on the board, no
Speaker 1: second off. Sorry, okay, I was late to starting to
Speaker 1: highlight these guys. I'm like, when we closer toward the Cowboys, brains, Okay,
Speaker 1: give y'all a list, got you? I got you. I
Speaker 1: was just I was highlighting him off the board, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, what did I miss here? You know?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, No, you're good. Derek Stingley goes ten
Speaker 1: with the Jets second pick, and then I think, Bobby,
Speaker 1: your thought process is totally right. I think Washington is
Speaker 1: really eyeing a receiver. In this case, they take Garrett
Speaker 1: Wilson out of Ohio State. He is the first receiver
Speaker 1: off the board. Minnesota heavily linked to a cornerback. With
Speaker 1: the top two gone, they take Trent McDuffie twelfth. Overall,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's say real quick, I think that
Speaker 1: that really hurt them to lose Stingley. By the way,
Speaker 1: I think, I think min Minnesota. I think Minnesota's locked on.
Speaker 1: They were locked on Stingley. So I think that that
Speaker 1: hurts him a little bit. As an LSU fan, it
Speaker 1: would be a bummer for me because I think him
Speaker 1: having Patrick Peterson in his locker room could only be
Speaker 1: a benefit for him. Brian's been on that pretty much
Speaker 1: since day one about having that that man tour in
Speaker 1: the locker room. That would be a phenomenal pair. I
Speaker 1: still think there's a a not impossible chance that on
Speaker 1: Thursday night, Kyler Gordon goes ahead of McDuffie. Though no,
Speaker 1: I agree with a lot of people I talked to
Speaker 1: are really high on his upside ye, like he's got
Speaker 1: the higher ceiling, that's that's that's that's coming from this building.
Speaker 1: It's true. Jermaine Johnson goes thirteen with the Texans second pick.
Speaker 1: He made some money in Mobile and then man, I
Speaker 1: think if there's one pick in the first round of
Speaker 1: this draft that everybody has just decided is going to happen.
Speaker 1: It's this one, which is another Cowboys target, Jordan Davis
Speaker 1: going off the board to Baltimore at fourteen. Now, I
Speaker 1: want to have another conversation here. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I think we're looking trade up territory. I mean we are.
Speaker 1: We are in the fourteen fifteen range, and at least
Speaker 1: one big name on the thirty visit list is still available.
Speaker 1: A lot of people had Drake London pegged as a
Speaker 1: top ten pick, but he's sitting here available with the
Speaker 1: Eagles on the clock at fifteen. Again, having done the
Speaker 1: math on this, you could conceivably get up there if
Speaker 1: you really want to. For like, I don't think eighty
Speaker 1: eight is enough to do it, but no, probably you
Speaker 1: could throw in eighty eight and like a fourth. I
Speaker 1: kind of felt you could just throw fifty six and
Speaker 1: have it a done day. Yeah. I could do that too.
Speaker 1: I would just go ahead and go fifty six, fifty
Speaker 1: six and twenty four. Do you feel like doing that?
Speaker 1: Do you well? Actually I was about to say do it?
Speaker 1: I feel like doing matter? Do I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: a phillis let's answer that one, because that's the important one.
Speaker 1: Do you think I think the Cowboys love Drake London?
Speaker 1: I agree with you. They brought him here, which is
Speaker 1: an indicator. Yeah, and I think if he got all
Speaker 1: the way down to fifteen, they'd get excited. I think
Speaker 1: they start having conversations if this is what happens, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if it's But again, it's going to cost
Speaker 1: you likely your second man. I think that. To be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I think you gotta get to I
Speaker 1: know you made the pick at fourteen, right was Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I mean, okay, the odds
Speaker 1: that they do back to back trades with Philly seems no.
Speaker 1: But I mean no, no, no. I was just thinking
Speaker 1: because Philly's a team that's also hunting wide receivers a
Speaker 1: little bit. So I mean, to me, does Philly move
Speaker 1: to twenty four thinking that they have a chance to
Speaker 1: draft Drake London? You know, I don't know if that
Speaker 1: drives I don't know if that drives them down the
Speaker 1: board to go do that. Maybe they like one of
Speaker 1: these other receivers. Maybe they think Chris o' lobby is
Speaker 1: going to be there, something like that. But that they've
Speaker 1: got a second. They've got a second, you know, first
Speaker 1: round pick though too. Do they pick again at eighteen? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, does it? Do they do? They get cute there?
Speaker 1: I think the I think the Howie Roseman loves getting cute.
Speaker 1: That's like his draft day m O. But in the
Speaker 1: division with a potential wide receiver who's also a potential
Speaker 1: target for your own team, I don't. I don't see
Speaker 1: maybe Eagles even having a conversation for tat the Cowboys
Speaker 1: helped the Eagles draft. Yeah, wasn't that different position though,
Speaker 1: because we're talking about if somebody in the division was
Speaker 1: getting him, So you just were picking who you were
Speaker 1: gonna help. So we think the Cowboys would be interested
Speaker 1: in doing this. But we also think that this particular scenario,
Speaker 1: the Eagles probably hang up the phone. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think they. I don't think they play ball
Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, aren't. And you got the Saints in
Speaker 1: that mix too, right there, with those picks coming up
Speaker 1: atteen six, they're looking at they're looking at wide receiver. Well,
Speaker 1: I just think if you really, if you're interested in
Speaker 1: Drake London, you probably have to go higher. I think
Speaker 1: you got to go to Baltimore. I think you got
Speaker 1: to go to fourteen, maybe Houston, just because that's the Houstons.
Speaker 1: Houston's another one. I mean, I just think you have
Speaker 1: to get ahead of that. Philadelphia New Orleans kind of mixed.
Speaker 1: I think realistically, I mean, in the scenario, yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta go to Baltimore. You maybe got to go to
Speaker 1: the Technis. I think realistically you may have to go
Speaker 1: to the Jets on Thursday night if you want to trade. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: Because I think Washington really likes Drake London. Okay, so
Speaker 1: if that, if that's the case, we're gonna probably lose
Speaker 1: Drake London. I mean, because I want to make this
Speaker 1: thing as clean as possible. If I think, I think
Speaker 1: a flat second could do it for the Jets, drop
Speaker 1: back to twenty four, a deep receiver drafting you pick
Speaker 1: up fifty six. I think that could potentially do it.
Speaker 1: For See, this is where I was trying to trade.
Speaker 1: Remember the show where we tried to trade to Maury
Speaker 1: Cooper to the Jets for to move from twenty four
Speaker 1: to to ten. This is the kind this is when
Speaker 1: you needed that to work. That you said, Okay, here's
Speaker 1: a player, here's a wide receiver. You took whoever you
Speaker 1: wanted at four and here you got a guy that's,
Speaker 1: you know, one of the top receivers in the in
Speaker 1: the in the NFL. So here here's your guy. Let
Speaker 1: us come up there. And now now you do. Now
Speaker 1: you had the opportunity to take to Drake London's and
Speaker 1: guys like that and not even have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: So some if this were to happen, the Cowboys would
Speaker 1: need to jump somewhere between ten and fourteen. And I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, Bobby, but I think the more
Speaker 1: realistic scenario is they would need a little bit of
Speaker 1: luck on their side, Like, yes, Derek Stingley is still available,
Speaker 1: Washington ops to pick him, and now Drake London's falling
Speaker 1: to thirteen maybe something like that. I think thirteen to
Speaker 1: me looks like a very plausible landing spot if you
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get up. See this, And this
Speaker 1: is something I brought up to Brian yesterday, is that
Speaker 1: like when Ceedee Lamb fell to where he did and
Speaker 1: everybody was surprised by it, that was just you were
Speaker 1: surprised because of how well everybody just kind of generally
Speaker 1: thought of Ceedee Lamb. We were we were selling Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know on my board he was number one,
Speaker 1: but you didn't you didn't hear it. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was what six on the board here overall, and so
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but you didn't hear a lot
Speaker 1: of specific ties of well, the Raiders love Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: and this team, Whereas that's the difference here with Drake
Speaker 1: Lend And that's why I think it's harder to envision
Speaker 1: London sliding like that is because I know Washington loves him.
Speaker 1: I've heard Atlanta loves him. Jets. Do you think teams
Speaker 1: Shore worried that he did not run a forty yard dash?
Speaker 1: It's interesting, I thought that was good. I've heard from
Speaker 1: a couple guys who didn't run forties this year, or
Speaker 1: heard about a couple guys who didn't run forties this
Speaker 1: year in just various positions. Didn't. It sounded like there's
Speaker 1: a lot more teams that are just not caring about
Speaker 1: that that they think they you know, they see the
Speaker 1: play speed on tape and they're not. It sounds like
Speaker 1: teams are getting less worried about the forty times kind
Speaker 1: of antiquated a little bit less. Kirby Joseph at the
Speaker 1: Illinois Safety he didn't run a forty at all this year,
Speaker 1: and teams, I've heard there were a couple teams that
Speaker 1: told him like, we don't care. How much does like
Speaker 1: GPS tracking play into that, because it's not only play
Speaker 1: speed on tape and seeing the guy go from point
Speaker 1: A to point B, it's seeing specific numbers that match
Speaker 1: up to that. Well. I think the other thing is,
Speaker 1: like Kirby Joseph had had he run or Drake Lenn,
Speaker 1: I think they've got a good idea of what London
Speaker 1: speed was, and so it's like, you know, he doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily want to put it on there, but it's like,
Speaker 1: we don't need you put it on there because we
Speaker 1: know what you are. You're not burner guy, You're not
Speaker 1: running a four four. Yeah, so we agree jumping up
Speaker 1: Drake London is a plausible target. It would have to
Speaker 1: be in that range, but in this mock, we're not
Speaker 1: more realistic going to one of the teams at thirteen
Speaker 1: or fourteen then going to six. Okay, yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with that real quickly. How much does playing because we're
Speaker 1: talking about Drake London being so high on the Cowboys board.
Speaker 1: How high it being Chris Olave and trailing Burke's in
Speaker 1: that board as at the same time is going to
Speaker 1: affect them moving up. So if they're so high on
Speaker 1: Drake London, is it that much of a gap to
Speaker 1: Chris Olava and Burks to where it's not worth giving
Speaker 1: up their second round pick to make that high. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a conversation. I don't I don't think Burk's and
Speaker 1: a Lava are getting to them at this point. See
Speaker 1: that's what I agree with Bobby on this. The more
Speaker 1: I'm hearing things about that. Can you know my history
Speaker 1: is I worked in Green Bay and talking to folks there,
Speaker 1: they really love Burks And the reason they'll give you,
Speaker 1: they'll say is Davante Adams was a four five five
Speaker 1: guy for a guy coming out of Fresno, big body.
Speaker 1: Brian Gudicus, the general manage up to give me the
Speaker 1: big body guy. You know, it doesn't matter if he's
Speaker 1: a four or five guy. So it seems like to me,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to You're gonna have to be ready
Speaker 1: for a couple of things. You're gonna have to be
Speaker 1: ready for Green Bay at twenty two. If you want Burks,
Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna have to be worried about
Speaker 1: an aggressive team again. I talk about the the zerline
Speaker 1: mock draft where somebody gets ahead of Dallas for a lava,
Speaker 1: you know, and that's you. You might be a situation
Speaker 1: where if you're looking with at one of these wide receivers,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be wiped out before they get to you.
Speaker 1: I mean Arizona at twenty three, like, that's the trade
Speaker 1: up targeting people. Look at Arizona just lost Christian. Arizona
Speaker 1: could take a receiver. They could, I mean they could
Speaker 1: take a love it. But now I think Packers and Burks.
Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna look the guys at Green Bay.
Speaker 1: I heard the quarterback there loves Yeah. I tried my
Speaker 1: best to talk y'all into a trade up to make
Speaker 1: this happen. I was trying to be Brian broad Us
Speaker 1: and say, if you want your receiver, go get him. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: y'all not no, no, no, no, you're not wrong, I
Speaker 1: mean no, no, But I say we're trying to find
Speaker 1: an area to go. I think you give us really
Speaker 1: good options because at twenty four, if we're gonna sit
Speaker 1: here and let this thing ride. There's a good chance
Speaker 1: that we're gonna lose London, Burks and a Lava all
Speaker 1: all off our board. Let's see how it plays out
Speaker 1: without a trade. Philly takes Drake London. Okay, how about that.
Speaker 1: That's the same thing that happened with Carolina right after them. Oh, Brian,
Speaker 1: you're you're a smart man. The New Orleans Saints take
Speaker 1: Chris lave At sixteen LAH Chargers, a guy that I
Speaker 1: kind of It seems like people are thinking he's slipping
Speaker 1: a little bit. But in this simulation, George Karloftis goes
Speaker 1: seventeenth overall to the LA Chargers. There's a couple of
Speaker 1: guys real quick, if I could say something about this, Yep,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of guys in this draft and they're
Speaker 1: both those defensive ends. Uh. It seems like that people
Speaker 1: are starting to think that Hutchinson and then and then
Speaker 1: Carloftis are who they are. Are you going to get
Speaker 1: any more out of these guys? Yeah? Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: you hate those that because I don't know understand him
Speaker 1: all that well. But what's the identity? Right? Yeah? What
Speaker 1: is the idea needs this team? But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that to me, this is where there's a couple those
Speaker 1: guys and again it's it's guys you're starting to talk
Speaker 1: to around the league. Is well, how good is this
Speaker 1: guy gonna be? Is he maxed right now? Is this
Speaker 1: other guy max? And those are the two names it
Speaker 1: seemed to be talking about. Are they maxed now? But
Speaker 1: in a draft where some people only have fourteen or
Speaker 1: fifteen first round grades, exactly closer you get to the twenties,
Speaker 1: I think the better value that is, Ye, Philly, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a curveball. Daxton Hill goes in the
Speaker 1: top twenty to Philadelphia New Orleans under the radar player
Speaker 1: in my opinion. Davante Wyatt goes nineteenth. Pittsburgh sits tight,
Speaker 1: and they don't go with Malik Willis. They draft Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 1: who already has an office at their facility. Way to go, guys.
Speaker 1: Heartbreaking for me. Jamison Williams goes twenty one to New England.
Speaker 1: And again we don't have to get into a whole scenario,
Speaker 1: but if maybe a minor trade could be done, I
Speaker 1: wonder if you have to think about it here. That hurt, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that one hurt me because I was looking at that name.
Speaker 1: He's starting to get excited. He's one of my top
Speaker 1: receivers also, and he's kind of forgotten because he didn't
Speaker 1: play recently or had the injury. Man if he would
Speaker 1: have fallen the twenty four, I think he would have
Speaker 1: been in that conversation. Bobby Belt also proving to be
Speaker 1: a very smart man. With their twenty second overall pick,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers finally break their receiver drought and
Speaker 1: draft Traylan Burkes out of Arkansas, two spots ahead of Dallas, Arizona.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call it a curveball, especially, I mean
Speaker 1: they need help in their secondary. The Cardinals draft Andrew
Speaker 1: Booth junior out of Clemson, and Dallas is now on
Speaker 1: the clock. If you're not keeping track at home, I
Speaker 1: got you. Don't worry about it. Devin Lloyd is available,
Speaker 1: Tyler Linderbaum, Nakobe Dean, both of the guards, Zion Johnson
Speaker 1: and Kenyon Green Arnold, Eba Katie if you feel some
Speaker 1: type of way about him, Quay Walker, who is starting
Speaker 1: to get a lot of buzz as a first round pick,
Speaker 1: Travis Jones out of Yukon, Johan Dotson, the Penn State receiver.
Speaker 1: If you're hell bent on taking a receiveriver and Logan Hall,
Speaker 1: the versatile d lineman out of Houston. That is the
Speaker 1: best of what is available to you at twenty four. Fellas,
Speaker 1: what are we doing so you can't go wide receiver? No,
Speaker 1: you could trade out and maybe go wide receiver in
Speaker 1: the early second if you wanted to maybe trade back.
Speaker 1: Can I just go a couple spots back and pick
Speaker 1: up something late because I feel like something like the
Speaker 1: Micah Parson situation, like somebody I like is going to
Speaker 1: be there. If I can go a couple of spots,
Speaker 1: can we can you tell me who you who you
Speaker 1: think people might be trading up for. That's what I mean,
Speaker 1: because Dave gave you the list of guys that were there.
Speaker 1: Willis is still there? Okay, Malik Wills, there's one of
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks? Is still there? Carolina didn't take a quarterback
Speaker 1: in the first so maybe they could use their second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't have a second. Carolina doesn't have a single.
Speaker 1: But Caroline has got six and then like one thirty
Speaker 1: five or something. If this is something you want to do,
Speaker 1: if you are hell bent on bailing out, Kansas City's
Speaker 1: on the phone. Yeah, hell Bend. They love Arnold David Katie.
Speaker 1: They need help at pass rush. They don't know what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with the future of their defensive front.
Speaker 1: They are willing to offer you pick one twenty one
Speaker 1: in the fourth round and a sixth round pick. This
Speaker 1: is twenty nine or thirty to jump up from twenty
Speaker 1: nine to twenty four. It's not a huge haul, but
Speaker 1: if you're convinced that somebody will be there, you can
Speaker 1: fall back if you want. What was that one twenty one?
Speaker 1: You said one twenty one, I'm back into the third.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's actually in the middle of the board,
Speaker 1: the early mid fourth. Yeah, okay, it's eight spots in
Speaker 1: front of the Cowboys pre existing fourth round pick. You
Speaker 1: got three pre draft visitors Linderbaum, Dean as well on
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, I'll go back five spots for fourth fellas,
Speaker 1: I at least need two out of three. If not consensus,
Speaker 1: I would prefer to think I would do it. I
Speaker 1: think I would need a little bit more. Is there
Speaker 1: anybody else on the phone? Nope, just just Kansas City,
Speaker 1: Just Kansas City. Come on, Brian, Brian, I think Green's
Speaker 1: making it to twenty nine in this scenario. Do you
Speaker 1: really I do, And because of the knee, I just
Speaker 1: thinking this is the way the teams behind you. I
Speaker 1: just don't think anybody's taken Green because between you you've
Speaker 1: got Buffalo, Tennessee, Tampa, Green Bay. Tampa Bay can use
Speaker 1: offensive line, right, but you have you you. It's like
Speaker 1: the Slater Parsons will end up with somebody. We'll end
Speaker 1: up with Zion or Canyons. Y'all to crapper, get off
Speaker 1: the pod. Tags are touching there, Let's go. Let's go back,
Speaker 1: go back, We'll go back, all right, Cowboys call it in.
Speaker 1: It's not a huge Hallet's two extra picks. One in
Speaker 1: the fourth round. The Cowboys fall out of twenty four.
Speaker 1: Kansas City gets their pass rusher Arnold Eva Katie Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Not a huge surprise. Johan Dotson goes in the first round.
Speaker 1: Now we're flying. Devin Lloyd goes to Tennessee. Love the
Speaker 1: fit of Tyler Linderbaum to Tampa Bay. They just lost
Speaker 1: their center and free agency Green Bay. I think this
Speaker 1: is just a value pick. Nakobe Dean goes twenty eight.
Speaker 1: So now the Cowboys are on the clock again and
Speaker 1: our guards are there. Both guards are both there. Now,
Speaker 1: you just got to rman, which guard you one? Which
Speaker 1: one do you want? Green? Yeah, give me green, gim
Speaker 1: me green. Green's higher on my board. Give me the power.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to try to talk y'all out of it.
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green is your next Dallas Cowboy at pick twenty
Speaker 1: nine and overall lock it in. Kansas City follows that
Speaker 1: up by making their second pick for Kuaywalker out of Georgia.
Speaker 1: Zion Johnson goes to the Cincinnati Bengals, and with the
Speaker 1: last pick of the first round, the Detroit Lions get
Speaker 1: their fifth year option on Malik Willis. Good job for everyone,
Speaker 1: all right. I want y'all's reaction on that, But real quick,
Speaker 1: we'll take our first break and we'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the draft Show. We just added Kenyon Green to our
Speaker 1: hypothetical roster. Probably not the haul you would have preferred,
Speaker 1: but you add two extra picks, one of which is
Speaker 1: in the fourth round, and you still get one of
Speaker 1: your primary targets. I'll think you feel pretty good about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, what I appreciate is the way that we
Speaker 1: talked it through, because I think that, you know, I
Speaker 1: think Bobby did a really good job of just kind
Speaker 1: of making it like convincing us that, hey, listen, you know,
Speaker 1: we got both our guys there, which is a pretty
Speaker 1: obvious thing to say. But you know, and then you
Speaker 1: start to factor in because I was having some thoughts
Speaker 1: about the whole thing with the knee with Kenyan Green,
Speaker 1: which is not a I mean, it's it's it's one
Speaker 1: of the things. It's like, hey, it's not a now thing,
Speaker 1: you know, but going forward. But you can say that
Speaker 1: about a lot of guys in this in this draft.
Speaker 1: But I do feel like we got the way the
Speaker 1: direction of who they have over one over the other,
Speaker 1: with the tags Green over Johnson on their board, I
Speaker 1: think we got that right. And the fact that we're
Speaker 1: able to kind of just wade out, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: picking up extra picks in this draft, especially in the
Speaker 1: middle of the draft, I think is a good thing
Speaker 1: here as well. I also like the fact that it
Speaker 1: was kind of split initially, but we had somebody make
Speaker 1: the deciding fact. It's kind of what a war room
Speaker 1: is like to a certain extent. You have differing opinions,
Speaker 1: you have to have kind of both ends to look at,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you come to that consensus.
Speaker 1: And luckily, like you said, we had a consensus on
Speaker 1: the player. Made it easy whenever we made that decision
Speaker 1: to drop back and go get your guard, but it
Speaker 1: ultimately worked out in the favor and I like the
Speaker 1: move that was made. We're not gonna come close to
Speaker 1: finishing this at the eight. We're going, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to zip through the second Just some highlights. Lewis
Speaker 1: scene is the first pick of the second round. Logan
Speaker 1: Hall goes early New York Giants with the risky pick,
Speaker 1: taking David A Jabo in the top forty. I don't
Speaker 1: know about that, guys. Our guy, Jalen Petrie goes thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Bernard Ryman, a Cowboys target, goes thirty nine. Seahawks take
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. There's a little bit of a run on
Speaker 1: receivers here. So again, if we just want to have
Speaker 1: a brief conversation about trading up, sky Moore and George
Speaker 1: Pickens go back to back here forty three and forty four.
Speaker 1: Kind here they would not take if they depending on
Speaker 1: we need to figure out if they think sky Moore's
Speaker 1: a slot only because I'm here and Whisper run out
Speaker 1: of time to figure stuff out. No no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no, we do, I
Speaker 1: mean we do. I mean now we kind of feel
Speaker 1: like that he could play inside outside. But I was
Speaker 1: told that if don't look for this team to maybe
Speaker 1: dots and sky more guys, it might consider slot only
Speaker 1: type players. That's that's not going to happen here. You said,
Speaker 1: George Pickens went forty four Browns. Can we like, like
Speaker 1: rewind that and maybe talk about that pick? No, that
Speaker 1: I that take? So that's I want to look at
Speaker 1: that because again, so they got their offensive lineman. That
Speaker 1: leaves receiver as like the big work left to do.
Speaker 1: Maybe like and again like just keep in mind the
Speaker 1: names don't really matter. It's just receivers are going off
Speaker 1: the board. Sky it could be Sky Moore, could be
Speaker 1: Christian Watson. But you lose George Pickens at forty four. Um,
Speaker 1: does that scare you enough? You think back to last
Speaker 1: year we were watching those cornerback names all down the
Speaker 1: board to their pick at forty four, and it worked
Speaker 1: in their favor Kelvin Joseph Fell. But can you trust
Speaker 1: that to happen again? There's roughly a there's a one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty point difference between pick forty four and
Speaker 1: pick fifty six. And keep in mind you have an
Speaker 1: extra fourth to work with. Now, you said, how much
Speaker 1: one forty four. It's a it's it's about one hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty point difference. Okay, you know what I'm going
Speaker 1: to offer eighty eight and call it a day eighty
Speaker 1: eight to go up in the second Yep, it's kind
Speaker 1: of an overpay. I've got to I've got to get
Speaker 1: the guy right, which I don't have time. This is
Speaker 1: the Brian Broadest. I know what, guy, if you're talking
Speaker 1: about Pickens, why I don't need to go I personally,
Speaker 1: I don't need to go up and get Pickens. I
Speaker 1: would like I've got Jaylen Tolbert, I've got Christian Watson
Speaker 1: that are getting close. And even if I would, I
Speaker 1: would I had, I would have Tolbert above Watson. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're saying that you just want to sit then, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think receiver's deep enough. Even if second round
Speaker 1: doesn't work out. I think even if we're getting close
Speaker 1: to third, I think you find a plug and play starter.
Speaker 1: There's the third. There's an aspect of what you're saying
Speaker 1: that I completely agree with, because John MATCHI there, David
Speaker 1: Bell's there, Jalen Tolbert, Alec Pierce, Christian Watson, Justin Ross
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin. I mean, you go down and down the list,
Speaker 1: they're wide receivers that are going to be there at
Speaker 1: eighty eight. However, I think George Pickens belongs in that
Speaker 1: upper echelon of those receivers. Hell, we were talking about
Speaker 1: going up to six in the first round to get
Speaker 1: a guy. Yeah, yeah, But when we're talking about what
Speaker 1: you're let's go get a guy, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden you're scared. No, no, no no no, we're talking
Speaker 1: about cross as an option, and then we're talking about
Speaker 1: London going ten spots in the first and then even
Speaker 1: still we're talking. What I'm talking about here is I
Speaker 1: think that's a difference. I think you're you're seeing that
Speaker 1: Pickens and all those guys are the same. You're thinking
Speaker 1: that Pickens and Tolbert and all Pickens, Talbert Watts and
Speaker 1: I think all the same same type of guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: different types of players, but same similar player in terms
Speaker 1: of what they're saying about the story from Bruce Feldman
Speaker 1: yesterday about George Pickens being a big Red Flag player,
Speaker 1: do anything to scare you off? Was at the Red
Speaker 1: Flag about the maturity, not a guy that you gotta
Speaker 1: handhold a guy that didn't impress in meetings. This hasn't
Speaker 1: scared him before. Fair, totally fair, that's good points. So
Speaker 1: what's the consensus here? You know, me, personally, I love Pickens,
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, I understand where he's coming from.
Speaker 1: He sees it. Okay, this is where the draft meetings work.
Speaker 1: I see Pickens higher than those other guys, So to me,
Speaker 1: it's worth it to go up. But if these two
Speaker 1: don't think that's the case, I'm gonna get beat on this.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of split in the middle because I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I love Pickings eighty eight to go up. What was
Speaker 1: it ten spots? Roughly ten spots, twelve spots? Yeah? How
Speaker 1: much is of an overpay? Really? Is that? Because it
Speaker 1: here's the other thing though, I don't know, but you
Speaker 1: got three of them. The more I'm talking about it,
Speaker 1: the more I think I sighed with Brian, because if
Speaker 1: he if he's our guy, you come out of this
Speaker 1: draft with a starter at guard, and you come out
Speaker 1: of it with a starter at wide receiver that you
Speaker 1: compare with with Cede Land because Michael Gallup, who he argues,
Speaker 1: he argues, the other guys are plug and play and
Speaker 1: we have to respect that it's such a deep draft,
Speaker 1: and at receiver, it's such a deep draft. Period, Like
Speaker 1: to me, you're gonna sacrifice that third Okay, well, now
Speaker 1: you're sacrificing a chance at who's Sam Williams. You know
Speaker 1: there's another red flag guy? Yeah, well, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, like, like, look, let's see here, Ed,
Speaker 1: you're probably sacrificing the opportunity of Dominique Robinson, Cameron Thomas,
Speaker 1: Sam Williams, Ale Alex Right, Like, I mean those are
Speaker 1: guys that you can talk about here in the third
Speaker 1: round that weren't going to be there in the fourth. Sure,
Speaker 1: So what's the I mean, Cleveland wants you to me,
Speaker 1: let's sit, Let's sit who'll sit it? Pickens stays with
Speaker 1: the Browns, Kyler Gordon value pick at forty five, Saints
Speaker 1: get Matt Carroll all the way down at forty nine.
Speaker 1: Not a bad deal there. Tyler Smith goes fifty one,
Speaker 1: perry On win win free fifty three to the Packers.
Speaker 1: Chad Muma to Chad Muma to New England would be yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be perfect quintessential New England. Nick Benito to
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and now the Dallas Cowboys are back on
Speaker 1: the clock. Christian Harris is still there, Darian Kannard, Jamari Sailor.
Speaker 1: I can never say his name. Eliminate those offensive linemen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you. Leo did Pickens go, He did gone.
Speaker 1: Leo Chanelle is still there, Chanelle Jalen Tolbert's still there,
Speaker 1: Christian Watson's still there, Trey McBride is Metchi still there,
Speaker 1: Matchi is still there, Troy Anderson, Daniel Felele to Marvin Leale,
Speaker 1: those are the those are the big wigs, so to
Speaker 1: two receivers I think, I mean there. Yeah, Metchi, if
Speaker 1: you want to draft Metchi at this point, he's still around.
Speaker 1: He's the highest player on my board. I don't know
Speaker 1: about you guys remaining. I mean, sure, there's questions about
Speaker 1: his his health. What's at edge? What is at edge? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean all the guys you just listed off from
Speaker 1: from the previous round. But in terms of like second round,
Speaker 1: boy Afe is still there. No, boy A Mafe is
Speaker 1: long gone. Jack Rap Jackson is long gone. Nick Bari,
Speaker 1: uh he, I'm just throwing it. I'm not necessary. I
Speaker 1: want to take Enigbari, but Enigbari is still there to
Speaker 1: me this, this is just for me. I don't know
Speaker 1: about Sheel. To me, this comes down to Tilburton Watson.
Speaker 1: That's for me. If that's the case, I would take Tolbert.
Speaker 1: But I also like Metchi more than I think. I
Speaker 1: think this receiver's coach Robert Prince's in here. I think
Speaker 1: he's going to value Chris route running, you know, flexibility,
Speaker 1: things like I think you get all that with Tolbert. Yeah, Brian,
Speaker 1: you're awfully quiet in size. I got Watson higher, all right,
Speaker 1: I mean that's me I got I mean, if if
Speaker 1: I look at my stack, he's my fifty third best player,
Speaker 1: and nobody's going for Metchi here. I think I know.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I don't want to rehab to
Speaker 1: two guys with knees. That's fine. I just don'tunderstand that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, Tilburton Watson are real. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tilburton Watson are the you know, same value to me,
Speaker 1: I've got them, Like, right, there is this a situation
Speaker 1: where the your tags take you away from the obvious
Speaker 1: player of need, Like how do y'all feel about Chanel
Speaker 1: or Christian Harris or shoot for Mark Hell I would
Speaker 1: take I would Petrie. Petrie for me would make a
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry on the board's no, No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm more around Kyle the harder I guess to get
Speaker 1: it all straight. No, no, I understand. I mean that's
Speaker 1: Christian Harris is still on the board, right, Yep, it's
Speaker 1: at forty nine for me. Yeah. Um. But if you
Speaker 1: if you know, hint, my names would be Harris Watson.
Speaker 1: You know, those would be the two guys. We just
Speaker 1: got to figure out which one of these receivers you
Speaker 1: like better. And my vote would be for Christian Watson
Speaker 1: from North Dakota State. So yours is Watson. You're close
Speaker 1: on both with too close on both. I like I
Speaker 1: like Watson's ability to stretch the field more like his speed,
Speaker 1: I think. But but Watson Also, if you watch Watson's
Speaker 1: progression at North Dakota State, He's steadily improved that everything
Speaker 1: every year, and so I like there's a bit of
Speaker 1: a projection there that says like, hey, he might be
Speaker 1: able to, you know, reach a higher potential. I'm willing
Speaker 1: to give in for Christian Watson because it's close on
Speaker 1: my board. I'll go, we can go Watson. I've Watson
Speaker 1: the speed the threat because I mean, CD's not a burner,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallops not necessarily burner. Go ahead and get me
Speaker 1: a guy who can takes Ceedee Lamb and Tony Pollard
Speaker 1: off of the return game because you can put Christian
Speaker 1: Watson as a returner back there as well. I I like,
Speaker 1: send them deep, just just you know, hope those hands
Speaker 1: get better. I'm not going to sway y'all one way
Speaker 1: or the other. But do you give him we forget? No, no,
Speaker 1: not at all. But is there any thought too maybe
Speaker 1: we can find a guy we like. I mean, Michael
Speaker 1: Gallop was pick eighty one. Maybe there's there's value in
Speaker 1: the third round. Maybe you think I think it's a
Speaker 1: lot of my top receivers in the third round. There
Speaker 1: are the guys that you know, Brian was just referencing,
Speaker 1: like they're not gonna take like smaller slots, Like they're
Speaker 1: not gonna take Calvin Austin there. I don't think they're
Speaker 1: gonna take Kyle Phillips there. And so I mean that's
Speaker 1: that's the problem is that I think a lot of
Speaker 1: those guys in that territory we're talking about Slott, No,
Speaker 1: those are all good players. But I say that when
Speaker 1: when you start asking him questions about all these slots
Speaker 1: are like, ah, you're talking. You're talking about taking a
Speaker 1: flyer on Justin Ross out of Clemson or maybe an
Speaker 1: alec Pe at that point out of Cincinnati. Like it's
Speaker 1: those types of guy. It's just not gonna be the
Speaker 1: Wandale Robinson's or the Calvin Austin's or the Khalil Shakers.
Speaker 1: He didn't like that, he didn't run it. But I
Speaker 1: watched Justin Ross and training run a seven nine three cone. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like offensive lineman time. All right, I'm like I said,
Speaker 1: it's y'all's decision to make, and y'all have opted for
Speaker 1: Christian Watson out of North Dakota State. That would be
Speaker 1: a hell of a story just because the Cowboys they
Speaker 1: did draft Ben d Nucci. That's all the way back
Speaker 1: into seven. They have not spent a pick this big
Speaker 1: on an FCS player in a long time. But lock
Speaker 1: it in. He is an immediate or you hope at
Speaker 1: least an immediate starter for this Cowboys receiver corps. Darien
Speaker 1: Canard goes right off off the board. Right after that,
Speaker 1: Chanel and Christian Harris are right behind him. Bengals and
Speaker 1: Broncos wrap up the second round with Nick Cross and
Speaker 1: DeMar Mathis. A couple of dbs will fly into the
Speaker 1: third round. I believe, forgive me if I'm losing track.
Speaker 1: I think our first tight end goes off the board.
Speaker 1: Trey McBride at sixty five, Jamari Sawyer at sixty seven,
Speaker 1: New York. I like that pick a lot. Troy Anderson
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville Channing Tendal to the Bears at seventy one.
Speaker 1: Brian's guy, Luke Fortner, John Schneider, your buddy takes him
Speaker 1: up in Seattle. John actually drafting better now doing that.
Speaker 1: Denver grabs your guy. Bobby Kingsley and Nigbari at seventy five.
Speaker 1: Dylan Parham at seventy six. Is there are we starting
Speaker 1: to get nervous about anything right now? Again? Like we're
Speaker 1: at this point, we're just like we're we're making picks.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what happened last year. Yep Is, once
Speaker 1: you get into like the second third round, you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, we got some picks, let's just make them.
Speaker 1: I think after you make this pick at eighty eight,
Speaker 1: then you get on the phone, you start trying to
Speaker 1: deal one of those two fourths that you have or
Speaker 1: one of the four fits that you have to try
Speaker 1: and get back up into the top like one twenty five,
Speaker 1: maybe even top one hundred if you really wanted to push.
Speaker 1: But up until eighty eight, I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: really doing a whole lot. Okay, okay, um all right.
Speaker 1: Brian Asamoa goes of the Chargers, Greg Dolchiz to the Giants,
Speaker 1: Carson Strong to Atlanta that bought a quarterback. A quarterback. Uh,
Speaker 1: Sean Ryan is the last pick before the cowboy. Nobody
Speaker 1: else seems to right. I think he's where he was picked,
Speaker 1: is right where he needs to pick. So these are
Speaker 1: the names that jump out to me that are available
Speaker 1: to you at eighty eight overall. Uh, John met She's
Speaker 1: still there. That seems kind of redundant down Luke Godicky
Speaker 1: Abraham Lucas, Josh Pascal, the Kentucky Edge, Alec Pierce, Sam Williams,
Speaker 1: Kay Dotton, the Washington tight End that we know they liked.
Speaker 1: They like him also, Gilanni Woods, the Virginia Ty like
Speaker 1: him too. Those are that's that is the best of
Speaker 1: what is still hanging around. Um. The argument for me
Speaker 1: with Dion McCullum is still there, dominant, Dominique Robinson, Sam Williams,
Speaker 1: Josh Pascal are all there? Uh? Those are those are
Speaker 1: the Cameron, Thomas and Williams. Out of those guys, Cameron
Speaker 1: and Tom, you're good at asking me questions that I
Speaker 1: don't say. Sorry, Cameron Thomas is available, Okay, I just
Speaker 1: want curious if he's in the conversation. You have him over,
Speaker 1: Sam Williams, they're they're riding around here together, third round
Speaker 1: right here with you the way my names would be
Speaker 1: right there would be Sam, Williams, Pascal, and Otton. Those
Speaker 1: are kind of the guys i'd have in that range.
Speaker 1: Would you be interested in if we go edge here?
Speaker 1: Would you be interested in looking at getting back into
Speaker 1: the end of the third for one of the tight ends?
Speaker 1: If Otton or Woods are sliding you can do that now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you have the extra fourth, I would be interested.
Speaker 1: You want to go ahead and hit this defensive with
Speaker 1: Williams here quickly because I think they would make the
Speaker 1: Williams pick. But I also think Abraham Lucas out of
Speaker 1: Washington State would be in this conversation. Man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play name like that. Idea a lot. I stacked the
Speaker 1: way I stacked him. Lucas was at seventy three, Williams
Speaker 1: was at seventy five, Pascal was at seventy seven, and
Speaker 1: Otton at seventy eight. So I mean, they're all right there.
Speaker 1: This is where I imagine Dan Quinn doing his best
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli and just being like, hey, you got your
Speaker 1: offensive help, Yeah, you got it. And we never thought
Speaker 1: Sam would fall this far and here he is. Give
Speaker 1: them to me. I agree with that. But then that's
Speaker 1: the other thing about the tackle position, or you do
Speaker 1: you really feel comfortable with Terrence steal it right tackle?
Speaker 1: I think they do to a certain extent. But Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith isn't gonna be around forever. Abraham Lucas isn't immediately
Speaker 1: ready to be a starter. But this is the perfect
Speaker 1: they brought in where you could they brought in a
Speaker 1: vet over the weekend. I can't the guy's name escapes me.
Speaker 1: They visited with a veteran tackle over the weekend. Am
Speaker 1: I the only one that saw this? No, you're right
Speaker 1: about that. I just wonder I don't have the name.
Speaker 1: I can't think of the name either, but I just
Speaker 1: wonder if um unless hold I would say, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you exactly who it is because I asked one of
Speaker 1: my u I'll ask one of my pro personnel, Sam Tivy.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sam tvy And Sam Tivy is a professional lugger.
Speaker 1: Third tackle, has experienced both right and left tackle, has
Speaker 1: even played guard. Two wouldn't be as productive now. The
Speaker 1: more he plays, the more pronius to getting hurt at
Speaker 1: this point in his career. That was what one of
Speaker 1: my I don't want to pitch that as like a
Speaker 1: cure all, but what I was going to say is
Speaker 1: I wonder if in their minds they're like, unless we
Speaker 1: wind up with a Charles Cross or a really badass tackle,
Speaker 1: maybe we just signed this guy in a week and
Speaker 1: we're and worry about it later. Just keep kicking that
Speaker 1: tackle can down the road, which that's scary. At some point,
Speaker 1: at some point they got to do something, but doesn't
Speaker 1: sound doesn't mean it has to be this weekend. I'm
Speaker 1: okay with Sam Williams being the pick. He's on my
Speaker 1: board to lock it in. Sam Williams, I think if
Speaker 1: he's there for them at eighty eight, I think they
Speaker 1: would be elated. I'm really happy with this draft so far.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that so we fly through. I hate Bobby,
Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna what did I do? I mean,
Speaker 1: I got you your guy Sam Williams, and I think
Speaker 1: you have an extra fourth in the first round. Hey,
Speaker 1: can we use that fourth now to go get a
Speaker 1: tight end? I think that what do we want to do? No,
Speaker 1: let's let's round this scenario about. Let's round this scenario
Speaker 1: out before we go to break and just finish off
Speaker 1: the third round. So we think maybe trying to get
Speaker 1: a tight end at the end of the third round
Speaker 1: is realistic. Use what's the next pick one one twenty
Speaker 1: nine with the extra fourth that they like Ferguson, the
Speaker 1: Wisconsin guy too, by the way, So if we're if
Speaker 1: we're not interested in adding that tight end, let's see
Speaker 1: if Ferguson's maybe they're at one twenty nine. That's a
Speaker 1: guy that've kind of talked about like Otton and Woods
Speaker 1: more though right, yes, I have a feeling they're about
Speaker 1: to be gone, So let's just say they wait for
Speaker 1: the end of the third I think you could do again.
Speaker 1: So you have one twenty one and one twenty nine. Now,
Speaker 1: I think you could get up there for like one
Speaker 1: of those fourths and shoot, that might be enough. That
Speaker 1: was about to say, or maybe throw in a fifth
Speaker 1: because you got four of the damns. You have one
Speaker 1: twenty one and one twenty nine. Yeah, so that's fifty
Speaker 1: two forty three. That's ninety five points. I mean in
Speaker 1: my mind, I'm thinking round one oh four. Yeah, one
Speaker 1: of the rams are always f thumb picks anyway, somewhere
Speaker 1: between one hundred and one hundred and five. So Alec
Speaker 1: Pierce goes ninety one, Abraham Lucas goes to Baltimore. Baltimore
Speaker 1: is my favorite. They are my favorite. Two Cincinnati's actually
Speaker 1: my favorite. Bet Cameron Thomas goes to the Browns. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: those are those are the big picks. So it's pick
Speaker 1: one oh four. We'll just use bobbies. Are tight ends?
Speaker 1: Are there? All of your tight ends are there? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's pull a track. Let's go up and get cool.
Speaker 1: Do you want to go up? Brian? Are we using
Speaker 1: both furts here or are we just using one fourth? Well?
Speaker 1: Didn't you just do the math for I did? I
Speaker 1: did the math with both forts. Are we okay doing that?
Speaker 1: Because you're still getting your fourth pick either way like
Speaker 1: you had originally one twenty one is worth fifty two
Speaker 1: and one twenty nine is worth forty three picks to
Speaker 1: go up for eighty eight, a little bit of an overpay,
Speaker 1: but not a huge one. Six. We want the player
Speaker 1: we need to go all right? Who who do we want?
Speaker 1: Do we want? Are we going after Woods? What are
Speaker 1: we thinking here? I think you get Woods? I would
Speaker 1: go I might lean Oughton. I'm looking at my board
Speaker 1: and I have otten above Woods on like Jilanni woodods
Speaker 1: is there's my guy, It's Otton. It's been that way
Speaker 1: since day one. Okay, let's do it, Kate Dot, pull
Speaker 1: the trigger, Kay Dot, and come on down at pick
Speaker 1: one oh four. We're good at this. Ryan getting all
Speaker 1: his guys but still hates me because he didn't get Pickens.
Speaker 1: I'd still about you learn because by the way, brisket
Speaker 1: sandwiches at the station today. That brings the money rounds
Speaker 1: to a close. Uh. And the cowboys have added can
Speaker 1: we need another two hours through this show? Now? We're
Speaker 1: gonna zip through day three anyway, because who the hell
Speaker 1: knows what's going to happen. That might be some chaos there,
Speaker 1: Kenyan Green U the who is the damn second round pick?
Speaker 1: Christian Watson see exactly. You've already forgotten his name. Christian Watson,
Speaker 1: Sam Williams and Kate Otton. I think if that could
Speaker 1: add Pickens, but Bobby was a boy a bullet or
Speaker 1: come closer. I don't want any more red flag players. Brian,
Speaker 1: you know me and the questionable character Brian love Cincinnati
Speaker 1: as damn right Baltimore. I had a Pickens at Cincinnati
Speaker 1: one time. Is a damn good player. We're going to
Speaker 1: take our great that's a character problem issues and try
Speaker 1: to zimp through the rest of this seven round mock
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Speaker 1: Is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to the Draft Show, presented by Miller Light. We deserve
Speaker 1: a round of Miller Lights after adding all these badasses
Speaker 1: to the roster, aren't right, We're gonna We're gonna, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap this up as quickly as we can.
Speaker 1: We can't spend thirty minutes on each of the day
Speaker 1: three rounds. There's just no way. But we're gonna take
Speaker 1: you through this. So the Cowboys don't pick in the
Speaker 1: fourth anymore because they trade it up for their tight end.
Speaker 1: I think we all feel comfortable with that. Sure, yep.
Speaker 1: They pick for the first time on Day three at
Speaker 1: one fifty five. Just looking in the fifth round, Michael
Speaker 1: Clemens the A and M edge that I think they like,
Speaker 1: they do he is they do? Verse guy taken in
Speaker 1: the fifth too bad, that's a pen throw. Justin Ross
Speaker 1: goes to the Giants. Giants making a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: picks in this draft. Donovan West one fifty of the Bears.
Speaker 1: Jalen Watson, the cornerback we just talked about the other day,
Speaker 1: goes to Atlanta. So with the Cowboys on the clock
Speaker 1: at one fifty five, you do have some interesting options available.
Speaker 1: The irony is, and I don't feel bad about what
Speaker 1: we did, but the irony is there are a few
Speaker 1: really good tight ends still available. Whether that's see that's
Speaker 1: where I was thinking about two. I mean, I love Oughton,
Speaker 1: but I kind of know how they feel about they
Speaker 1: love Otton and Inn or Virginia guy. But then Ferguson
Speaker 1: the Wisconsin title is still there at one fifty five.
Speaker 1: James Mitchell, what's is gone? Right though? Woods is long gone? Yes?
Speaker 1: I um Percy Butler out of Louisiana, okay, No like
Speaker 1: no varone, mckinn no verme, McKinley, went um Yusef Corker
Speaker 1: is still there at safety um what a name you
Speaker 1: got some offensive lineman Logan Bruss and Mitchell who's on
Speaker 1: the interior defensive line? Um, I don't want to butcher
Speaker 1: his name, but the Iowa State guy? Okay? Who was Zurick?
Speaker 1: Who I did all? By the way, I did all
Speaker 1: the phonetic spellings for you last night. I thank you. O.
Speaker 1: Tito Obonia out of Ucla still hanging around. U. Tyrek
Speaker 1: Smith out of Ohio State is still there. In terms
Speaker 1: of like cowboy targets, I think it's can I hear linebackers?
Speaker 1: You can hear linebackers? Mike Rose, Mica McFadden. Oh, that
Speaker 1: means Mike Rose just went Um. Both of our guys
Speaker 1: that we talked about, de Marco Jackson and Brian Smith
Speaker 1: are still there. Wouldn't be against de Marco Jackson in
Speaker 1: this spot. This is the fifth right, this is the
Speaker 1: fifth round. Wouldn't be mad here? Aaron Hansford, close friend
Speaker 1: of Babe Bloffenberger. Is there a decent number of running
Speaker 1: backs pretty much all of the ones you would expect.
Speaker 1: The Mere White from Georgia. Uh, my guy, Actually, I
Speaker 1: believe Rashad White is still available. Who's just who's the
Speaker 1: top who are like the top names on the all section. Um,
Speaker 1: like we're the top like three or four names. Brian
Speaker 1: Robinson junior Alabama Boys, A tough guy, James Mitchell, Jake Ferguson,
Speaker 1: Like like the tight ends are probably the best two
Speaker 1: players avail. See. Okay, let's just real quick circle back
Speaker 1: on that. We made the move and we moved on
Speaker 1: from those fourth round guys. Should we should we have thought?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we thought of that. But going
Speaker 1: into the draft, is this really is this a realistic thing?
Speaker 1: Like if you start talking about going to get kid
Speaker 1: and guys like that, can you say, well, hell, we
Speaker 1: like Ferguson just as much. Maybe all these tight ends
Speaker 1: will still be there. I think it depends on how
Speaker 1: you feel about Dalton Schultz. Do you feel like you're
Speaker 1: going to the cafe as though adult and like what
Speaker 1: we needed covered we got covered in the first two days, right,
Speaker 1: and so anything else is going to be kind of
Speaker 1: icing or you're looking for depth. I'm not drafting day.
Speaker 1: I'm not really fourth round. I think you still want
Speaker 1: guys to have a role as a rookie starting in
Speaker 1: the fifth I'm just like, yeah, bring him on and
Speaker 1: see what he can do. I don't. I don't mind
Speaker 1: going top player on the board. I don't mind going
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson. UM, be honest. Also, I want to throw
Speaker 1: this out there. I forgot this caveat. I'm using a
Speaker 1: simulator from my dear friends at the Draft Network. They
Speaker 1: don't include kickers, So Kade York and Cameron Dicker and
Speaker 1: all those guys are not part of this. But therese
Speaker 1: are people too, I know. Come on the Draft Network. Um,
Speaker 1: if y'all want to draft day kicker, just tell me
Speaker 1: and I will waive my gandoff staff and make it happen.
Speaker 1: What do you want Brian other than George Pickens? See,
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll take a kicker at all. Then
Speaker 1: I think this is I think this is bones fossil.
Speaker 1: Just you know, he's going to prove he's the smartest
Speaker 1: guy in the room and I don't need to draft
Speaker 1: a kicker. I'll go find a guy that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Where do you have Brian Robinson? I got him in
Speaker 1: the fourth round, so he's sitting here in the fifth.
Speaker 1: You think they double up on a receiver. They might,
Speaker 1: but can't. We can't. We look at Velis sure. A
Speaker 1: little bit later, Vleis Jones is still that. I said
Speaker 1: that because the guy that yawed of Tennessee, by the way,
Speaker 1: the guy y'all all really liked that of Texas tech
Speaker 1: Eric E. Zukama is still now. He's still here. He's
Speaker 1: still here. Like they're they're a good players, still available,
Speaker 1: They're just not at the positions. I wasn't crazy about
Speaker 1: it as a common but I'd take him in the
Speaker 1: fifth probably, But I don't know. Brian Robinson. Is he
Speaker 1: a blinking light for you? Brian? I mean when you
Speaker 1: watch him play man, I mean it's it is a physical,
Speaker 1: it's a he's a complete back. I mean he watched him.
Speaker 1: I mean he is. He is tough, he blocks, he
Speaker 1: runs the ball well, he runs, sup tackles. You could
Speaker 1: throw him the ball. I mean he was super super
Speaker 1: impressed him in the Florida Guy where two of am
Speaker 1: I I'm willing to go Brian Robinson here. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you, guys, I'm okay with it. I'm you
Speaker 1: know what in the more, Daniel Pierce is who I
Speaker 1: was talking about and I had their tax touching back
Speaker 1: and forth. That's RB seven, RB eight for me. But
Speaker 1: Robinson's above him. And if you're looking at the running
Speaker 1: back situation. Who knows about Zeke's future? Who knows about
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard's future? This is a developmental back. Dan, he's gone,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm program guy. Either way, give me
Speaker 1: Brian Robinson Junior. We were all good with that. Brian's
Speaker 1: a little hesitant. I think I don't know, man, I
Speaker 1: mean we also pick again in like twenty picks or
Speaker 1: not even so this is we're talking the fifth right,
Speaker 1: You've got twelve picks, you think, Yeah, that is the
Speaker 1: fun thing about this is you don't have to wait
Speaker 1: long to make Do you think we need to give
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn a pick here? Well, I'm thinking, like, I
Speaker 1: really I really like J. T. Woods to the safety
Speaker 1: from Baylor. Yeah six, he's not in their database by
Speaker 1: the way, Dave, Oh is that right? Yep, that's a
Speaker 1: shame definitely available. Yeah. Well no, I'm just saying if
Speaker 1: you're I mean, because I got Woods over Robinson, and
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about by how much like no
Speaker 1: tags like literally one five wow, and so that's out
Speaker 1: of one after this one sixty seven twelve picks later,
Speaker 1: if you want to, you want to ride it and
Speaker 1: see if we can get if we can see who's
Speaker 1: available there, well, we know Woods will be available because
Speaker 1: again he's not in the data back leave. It's a
Speaker 1: bobby to break my simulation. I think that you know,
Speaker 1: I have no problem. I have no problem with Robinson.
Speaker 1: I mean seriously, his tape and you know what, there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of wear and tear on this guy. No,
Speaker 1: he was a one year starter at Alabama. When you
Speaker 1: think Obama running backs, this ain't that just in the
Speaker 1: sense that he had he waited, He waited his time.
Speaker 1: I mean he I mean he's super productive catching the ball,
Speaker 1: the blitz pick up stuff. You can watch him in
Speaker 1: the n A and Him game. He blitz pickups and
Speaker 1: then it's like okay, there's a scramble and then like
Speaker 1: he goes out in the flat, catches a ball and
Speaker 1: gets like a first down after he keeps his quarterback
Speaker 1: from getting hit. I like Brian rob and all right,
Speaker 1: that's the pick one fifty five Brian Robinson. The tight
Speaker 1: ends go fast. Mitchell and Ferguson both go quickly. Uh
Speaker 1: Ezukama goes to the Chargers um some offensive tackles Max
Speaker 1: Mitchell and Braxton Jones. Philly drafts Jack Cone I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. It's rough. No offense to him. Uh
Speaker 1: Otito Obonia goes to Vegas. Mike Oh Philly drafts and
Speaker 1: my guy ty Davis Price. Nobody talks enough about him.
Speaker 1: Good running back Alabama? I mean it should be the
Speaker 1: Florida game, right, Yeah? Set the LSU record. Yeah, Cowboys
Speaker 1: are back on the clock at one sixty seven. You know,
Speaker 1: I really like that J T. Woods guy. Let's go
Speaker 1: J T Wood my life? You want to go J T.
Speaker 1: Woods here? Brian, you know what, I have him in
Speaker 1: that spot unless you guys get somebody else. T Woods,
Speaker 1: let's go. I mean, Nick, guy's a turnover machine. I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Tyree Smith is still there. Kaylin Barnes
Speaker 1: is still there on JT. Woods. You wanted us to
Speaker 1: go fast? Okay, cool? Cool cool? J T. Woods out
Speaker 1: of Baylor is your pick. At one sixty seven, Darry
Speaker 1: Rosenthal goes. Tyreek Smith does finally go. Pierre Strong Junior,
Speaker 1: who a lot of people really love, goes to Green Bay,
Speaker 1: which I like. Um Andrew Stewart to the Bengals, use
Speaker 1: of Corker to the Rams. Cowboys are back on the clock.
Speaker 1: Is Marco Jackson still there. Can I stand on the
Speaker 1: table for him that Marco Jackson is still available? I
Speaker 1: would have no problem with that six. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: I know I said hurry up, but I just want
Speaker 1: to I'm trying to be third. But I mean I
Speaker 1: think everybody's in agree, like, like there's a point where
Speaker 1: these things. I mean, if you want to go do
Speaker 1: an overview of it, fine, but I think everybody feels
Speaker 1: good about go ahead and run through the picks, because
Speaker 1: we pick again in two selections. Martin Emerson, the Mississippi
Speaker 1: State corner still there. Like him, he's a six two
Speaker 1: to a one. Dane Belton, who y'all really liked from Iowa,
Speaker 1: but we took another safety already with um My Corners
Speaker 1: there who Brian now hates the USC guy. Veyleis Jones
Speaker 1: Junior is there? Yes, yeah, Chris Paul, the Tulsa guard
Speaker 1: is there. Cade Maze is still kicking around. Maybe in
Speaker 1: the cade Mason Paul can play tackle? Uh okay, uh?
Speaker 1: Did I already say Valis Jones Junior He's still there? Oh?
Speaker 1: All right? Valis Jones is somebody that we pick again.
Speaker 1: Win two picks, two picks at one seventy eight and
Speaker 1: then again at one ninety three, So you've got three
Speaker 1: in the next you want to go. So you want
Speaker 1: to go Jackson here, DeMarco, I'd love to. Yeah, Jackson,
Speaker 1: they're gonna They're gonna add a linebacker somewhere. There's another
Speaker 1: small school guy too. What they do I know, Apple
Speaker 1: app State isn't small school to beat the Yeah, they
Speaker 1: beat teams. That's the thing that beat regularly. They make
Speaker 1: bowles in the abs. Y'all, y'all want to y'all tried
Speaker 1: so hard to draft Ronald Blair on this show, so
Speaker 1: you can go get to Marco Jackson. Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like he turned out to be like Dad. No, but
Speaker 1: I mean he was, he was Appolachi. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: you tried to draft an Appalachian State guy for two months.
Speaker 1: Marco Jackson is the pick. At one seventy six. The
Speaker 1: Lions take Dane Belton out from under you. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: we already drafted the safety, so we don't really care
Speaker 1: that much. This is where that Martin Emmerson and out
Speaker 1: of Mississippi State comes into one seventy eight. Emerson is
Speaker 1: still there, as is Vealis Jones. Like him my guy,
Speaker 1: Richard White just tumbled to the end of the fifth.
Speaker 1: That's devastating, um, but not surprising. They all want more names.
Speaker 1: Chris Paul is again still there, Kade May's Alec Lindstrom
Speaker 1: the Boston College. I think you're okay there. I like,
Speaker 1: I like Vealis Jones, I have Emerson might a double
Speaker 1: dip guy, somebody who can do stuff for Bones on
Speaker 1: special teams too. So we're and we talked about that
Speaker 1: with Watson though, right, yeah, he's gonna be less. I
Speaker 1: think is as is that you're stealing somebody. Less has
Speaker 1: all pro potential. I think as a return guy, I
Speaker 1: think I just want to highlight for the listeners that
Speaker 1: y'all are saying, f them kickers, f them just no kickers.
Speaker 1: I just so yeah, I mean, I mean, let me
Speaker 1: let me bust your chops, Kyle, come on, no, I mean,
Speaker 1: I appreciate my chops being busted. I just I just
Speaker 1: feel like they put that out Bones. You know, Bones
Speaker 1: is he's smarter than everybody in the room. Guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what would seem logical would be, oh, well,
Speaker 1: let's go get one of these legitimate kickers, you know.
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I would draft a kicker in
Speaker 1: the fifth I've been saying it all year. It pick
Speaker 1: it No, No, because what I was gonna say is
Speaker 1: if they don't. And I think you make a good
Speaker 1: point that I think the special team's coach thinks the
Speaker 1: way that you think it is. Um, so we're using
Speaker 1: a special team's pick in the fifth round on Vellis
Speaker 1: Jones Junior and not on a kicker. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't want to, I don't want to railroad anybody, but
Speaker 1: Vellis Jones is where I would like here. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: have him higher than Emerson because I thought you said
Speaker 1: you liked Emmerson Emerson. Yeah, it's me. I like it.
Speaker 1: I have Emerson Emerson. I mean, consider the Kelvin Joseph situation.
Speaker 1: I mean one for one, but yeah, death doesn't hurt.
Speaker 1: I think you could get Jones at one ninety three.
Speaker 1: I am I want Jones at one ninety three. I
Speaker 1: was thinking one ninety three. I had in the back
Speaker 1: of my head that might be my dart to throw
Speaker 1: at Kyran Johnson. Oh okay, that's kind of interesting because
Speaker 1: I don't think he's undrafted. No, and that's your last pick,
Speaker 1: isn't it. Ah, Yes, it is so, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just it. That's kind of what I had in the
Speaker 1: back of my head. I was thinking you could go
Speaker 1: Jones Johnson. But I mean, if you want to go
Speaker 1: Emerson Johnson, that's fine too. You've got your receiver, You've
Speaker 1: got Christian watching. I know. But I'm in love with
Speaker 1: like Gallop and said in the same draft worked out
Speaker 1: so beautifully, and I did you just love receivers, And yes,
Speaker 1: every time I do. It's fine. It's fair to point
Speaker 1: out that they still have semi Phijoko. They don't need
Speaker 1: a receiver, not not anymore, not having added one. Ryan,
Speaker 1: would you rather go Emerson or Jones. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my board right now. I know we don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of time. That's okay, we're already over. It's fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I would go I think I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: darn it. I'm trying to kind of get where those
Speaker 1: tags are. I'm getting down to it. I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: think I would go Jones. M M. I love it, okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I wasn't. I said I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: sway it. But I'm happy when it sounds like I'm
Speaker 1: happy with that decidy making process, and you know what
Speaker 1: if I did, so the hell what? Rashad White finally
Speaker 1: goes off the board. I don't get why I love
Speaker 1: him so much more than everybody else. We go to
Speaker 1: the sixth round, Zachary Carter, Jerome Ford literally made. He
Speaker 1: goes to Buffalo, Kwon Thornton goes to San Francisco. I
Speaker 1: really went with the room on that one, because I
Speaker 1: have Emerson at one sixty four and Jones at one
Speaker 1: sixty seven. Emerson does finally so close. I don't have
Speaker 1: I left it up to you. I know, I know
Speaker 1: I went with the room. When you pick a one
Speaker 1: ninety three, who did you say you were? Oh, Kyron?
Speaker 1: I just was interested in Kyron Johnson potentially here. But
Speaker 1: I mean, who's there? Kyron Johnson's still there? Uh? Emerson
Speaker 1: has gone, Dan Chris Paul, Oh no, I'm sorry, Chris
Speaker 1: Paul has gone. Cade Mayze is still there, Alec Lindstrom
Speaker 1: is still there, Charleston Windstrom still there. Yeah, Charleston Rambo
Speaker 1: still there. Former Oklahoma roommate with Ceedee Lamb. They were
Speaker 1: roomed together. Did I already say Smoke Monday best name
Speaker 1: in the draft for the name. No, he went to Auburn.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing. They're gonna smell some sell some jerseys,
Speaker 1: Haskel Garrett, Thomas Booker there. Uh you know what at
Speaker 1: this point? Oh no, I was about to say at
Speaker 1: this point, I have no idea, but he is. He
Speaker 1: is still there, Thomas Booker out of Stanford, sitting there
Speaker 1: defensive tackle right, YEP, I might be able to play
Speaker 1: some four eye Connor Heyward, the Michigan State tight end,
Speaker 1: our buddy Grant Calcata from SMU. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. You don't know what Bobby's Bobby's
Speaker 1: guy Isaac Taylor Stewart, USA. No, I know. I knew
Speaker 1: he was gonna be there because no one else likes him.
Speaker 1: Did we take a stab at a quarterback at some
Speaker 1: point for a back? I'll tell you what. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not a terrible idea about Bobby's USC guy, because
Speaker 1: that guy does have LinkedIn. You're looking at for traits
Speaker 1: right now, traits that can run. So I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be opposed to that at the four two
Speaker 1: six foot I wouldn't. Plus, I wouldn't be opposed to
Speaker 1: that right now at all? Okay, what do you just what? Hellman?
Speaker 1: Call him karate jazz. Oh, yeah, the karate jazz guy.
Speaker 1: I'm I can't wait just to answer your question, Kyle,
Speaker 1: I mean really at this point and I'll just I'm
Speaker 1: stealing it right out of Dane's draft guy. All of
Speaker 1: the qbs with draftable grades have gone by this point.
Speaker 1: Cole Kelly out of Southeastern Louisiana and Rock Purdy are
Speaker 1: still there. Remember, Yeah, Kellen Moore went to the Iowa
Speaker 1: Stay workout. He did, He did so, Purty, you might
Speaker 1: want to keep an eye on that one. With Will
Speaker 1: Greer and Cooper rush here, it doesn't feel very important
Speaker 1: to me, sure though they are both in contract years.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of guys there though at Iowa
Speaker 1: Stay two though, because Kohler's there and Breeze Hall, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I bet that was just about as
Speaker 1: much about Kohler as a couple. I have no problem
Speaker 1: with with Taylor Stewart. I really don't. The big long cornerback, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got to miss my head of one
Speaker 1: seventy seven on my board, so I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: In the six lock it in. That is your final
Speaker 1: pick of this mock. I feel pretty good about it, guys,
Speaker 1: I thought, what's the overview? You got the overview report.
Speaker 1: I've got it if you want it. I actually do,
Speaker 1: because I got so wrapped up in reading stuff off
Speaker 1: that I didn't write it down. So at twenty four
Speaker 1: we traded back with Kansas City. We acquired one twenty
Speaker 1: one and an extra sixth which we didn't pick, by
Speaker 1: the way, so we might actually have another pick, but
Speaker 1: we just don't know about it. Yeah, I wasn't numbered.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to throw another name, no, no,
Speaker 1: give them their kicker because the fans will want their
Speaker 1: kicks from Penn State is still there. If we want
Speaker 1: to throw him in the mix, which kicker do you
Speaker 1: like better? Dicker or your Now we're drafting kid. You
Speaker 1: are there in the rain. We know what balls will do,
Speaker 1: but this is we're doing that for the fans of
Speaker 1: the draft. Just because they won't draft a kicker doesn't
Speaker 1: mean we can't. This is our war. Boom got it.
Speaker 1: Throw him in there, thinks Kansas City. We went from
Speaker 1: twenty four down to twenty nine. We picked Kenyon Green,
Speaker 1: first round pick from out of Texas A and M
Speaker 1: in the second at fifty six, we decided to go
Speaker 1: Christian Watson wide receiver out of North Dakota State, third
Speaker 1: round to pick number eighty eight Sam Williams, edge rusher
Speaker 1: from Ole Miss. No pick in the fourth round because
Speaker 1: we traded back up into the third round pick number
Speaker 1: one oh four trading with the Rams, we drafted tight
Speaker 1: end Cade Otton out of Washington. Then you go further
Speaker 1: down to the fifth round after giving up both of
Speaker 1: our fourth round picks, one of which we were required
Speaker 1: from Kansas City. At one fifty five, we picked Brian
Speaker 1: Robinson junior, the running back from Alabama pick one sixty
Speaker 1: seven and the fifth JT. Woods safety out of Baylor
Speaker 1: one seventy six to Marco Jackson linebacker round of Appalachian
Speaker 1: State one seventy eight, Vellis Jones junior wide receiver and
Speaker 1: special team's extraordinary out of Tennessee. And then in the
Speaker 1: sixth round, we took one ninety three Isaac Taylor Stewart
Speaker 1: corner out of USC for his traits and Cade York
Speaker 1: undisclosed pick in the sixth round kicker from LSU, a
Speaker 1: pick that will not be numbered, but we really don't
Speaker 1: know it because we made this whole thing up, but
Speaker 1: we did not pick George Pickens. No, we did. No. No,
Speaker 1: what you know the more if this is the class, No,
Speaker 1: listen to those names. Listen name class. I would say,
Speaker 1: it's real quick. I know, we gotta get going. But
Speaker 1: the fact that you guys talked me into the trade
Speaker 1: back and you still got the guard, but then it
Speaker 1: allowed us to get the picks with the fourth round
Speaker 1: picks to get the tight end. I'm totally on board
Speaker 1: with what I've done there. Love that idea and like
Speaker 1: it can it can get kind of ambitious, like people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, well I did this and I fell
Speaker 1: back and I jumped forward, But like those are both
Speaker 1: pretty manageable trades. Yeah, no, you didn't make You didn't
Speaker 1: make big swings at those No, that was all I mean,
Speaker 1: we did talk about we didn't have to six is
Speaker 1: unrealistic to try and get above, you know, to go
Speaker 1: get Drake London, I think is a is a kind
Speaker 1: of a dream, but it's there the other ones. I
Speaker 1: think we're very manageable trade. It's with the players that
Speaker 1: we went for, you know, guys that we know that
Speaker 1: they like, we were conservative where we needed to be,
Speaker 1: and we were aggressive where we need no Madden trades.
Speaker 1: It was pretty realistic. We we only went eleven minutes
Speaker 1: over and we got through all seven rounds. More than anything,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. Certainly, none of this is going
Speaker 1: to come close to coming true now that we've laid
Speaker 1: it out so beautifully, but hopefully you have a feeling
Speaker 1: of what to expect in all of the important rounds. Anyway,
Speaker 1: of this weekend's twenty twenty two NFL Draft. The next
Speaker 1: time you hear us in your ears, we will be
Speaker 1: doing it for real Thursday night. Guys, we're gonna what
Speaker 1: we're simulcasting one oh five three the fans Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: Sean Sharif. Dallas Cowboys Radio Network is Dallas Cowboys Radio Network. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we're gonna have you covered from wall to wall
Speaker 1: every single picks starting on Thursday night. We find a
Speaker 1: way to get rid of Bobby so we don't have
Speaker 1: these discussions so we can draft George. We can't wait.
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