WEBVTT - Draft Show: Mocking Everyone 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:09.480 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft show, your war 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:13.280 room for insider news and craft analysis from deep within 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:17.000 the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frescope. 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:25.639 And now your hosts. Brian brought us Kyle Yeomans and 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.760 David Hellman. It's Tuesday, April twenty sixth. Do you know 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:35.400 what that means? It is draft week, a little more 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:39.120 than forty eight hours from now. The twenty two NFL 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:42.000 Draft will start a little bit after that. The Cowboys 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:45.639 will we think, make at least one addition to their 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.880 roster on Thursday night. Guys, it's it's here. Brian brought 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:54.000 us Kyle Yeoman's Bobby belt as usual. It feels like 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:56.040 it was just yesterday that we were talking about the 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.520 Senior Bowl rosters, and here we are ready to get 0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:03.440 into the gritty. Unless anybody's got sue something super pressing 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.480 to say, we're gonna I know that this episode is 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.880 gonna fly by, so we're just gonna hop right into it. 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:09.759 If it's okay with you, absolutely, let's do it. We're 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:11.920 all doing well. Thank you for asking. I appreciate that. 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:16.200 Bright No maps, that's the press, hopefully while we're broadcasting 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.280 the draft on Thursday night. The MAVs will be closing 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.240 out that series. Sorry for the like five Utah jazz 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.479 slash Cowboy fans that are out there. No, no, they're 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.639 out there. No harm intended, but yeah, go maps. Anyway, 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.520 we're gonna do a seven round live mock guys. I'm 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:33.520 excited about this. I'm excited to see where we can 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.160 take it. So this is how we're gonna do it. 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.479 I'm going to be your draft ganned off for the day. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.479 I'm I've sort of put this whole thing together. I've 0:01:42.480 --> 0:01:44.440 got an idea of what's in front of us, but 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:46.440 I'm gonna leave it all up to you. Like, I'm 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.640 gonna let y'all sort of guide us where we go, 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.000 whether you want to trade up, trade back, stand and 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.640 pick all that type of thing. Y'all can sort of 0:01:55.680 --> 0:01:57.760 committee this thing and we'll see where it goes. Now, 0:01:57.800 --> 0:02:01.040 are we working together? As where are the front office? 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.680 You are the Cowboys front office? Okay? I am just 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.600 the guy running the draft basically, So without further ado, 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.760 let's hop right into it. Thursday night comes. I don't 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.800 think the first two picks of this draft are gonna 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:18.080 be surprising. I think it's gonna be Aiden Hutchinson and 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.160 Tryvan Walker in some order. If I had to guess. 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.440 In this scenario, Aiden Hutchinson goes number one overall of 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:28.360 the Jags. The Detroit Lions follow that up with Trayvon Walker. 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.079 Pick three is where it gets interesting for me. Sauce 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:35.320 Gardner goes three overall to the Houston Texans. I don't 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:39.120 think anybody would be crazy surprised by that. Well, what's 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.639 the chatter lately that's out there is maybe even as 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:44.399 high as Stanley could go there and be the real 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:47.360 surprise at three. I've heard them very tied to cornerbacks, 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.640 so I think that's something we've got to pay attention to. 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:53.880 Run on Tackles begins right away with the New York Jets, 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:57.640 uncertainty surrounding McKay beck and Ikey Aquanu from NC State 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.320 goes four overall. Right after that, like we've been hammering 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.119 for a couple of weeks, the New York Giants take 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:07.320 Evan Neil. Now, Brian, I want to pause briefly here 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.480 because this sixth draft spot is something we've talked a 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.480 lot about. Um, you know, if the Cowboys want to 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:18.399 get uber aggressive obviously, a couple of guys that they've 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.919 brought in on visits, Charles Cross Drake London are obviously 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:26.200 still available. There's the Cavon Thibodeau after effect. Just crunching 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.600 the math on this, I think you can get up 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:34.320 there for your one and year two go from twenty 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.200 four to six. Does that sound appealing to anybody in 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:40.760 this room? It does, Yeah, it does. You know, again, 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.680 you're looking at Carolina on the Cowboys strap board or 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:48.120 their chart. It would be about sixteen hundred points at Carolina. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.440 You're currently sitting at seven forty yourself. Your second round 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:57.600 pick is worth three forty, so I mean it's close. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:03:59.560 You might have to throw a couple as Yeah, I 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:04.440 think that would be a You know, I don't think 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:06.960 Carolina would try and hold you up because I'm kind 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:08.840 of getting a vibe in the middle of the board 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:13.360 that those teams with multiple first round picks are interested 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:16.000 in moving out of there and moving so maybe the 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:19.760 price of poker. You know, you could kind of convince Carolina, 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.320 like listen, everybody behind you is willing to get out 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.839 of their spot. You know, you could take this, this 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:26.640 will be our best offer, and if you don't want 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:28.680 to do it, then we'll find a way to go 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:31.520 back and maybe get it one of these other spots. 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:35.719 You know. I think that Houston at thirteen is a 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.760 team you could talk about maybe moving. Minnesota at twelve 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:43.640 was another one, Baltimore at fourteen. So there's teams right 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:47.120 behind Carolina that are interested in moving if you can 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:50.280 wait on your guy. But if you have somebody clearly 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:53.279 in mind, you know, I think that is that is 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:57.520 the questions, like, do you have somebody clearly if just 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.680 reading tea leaves, I think the Cowboys would be doing 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:02.720 it for Charles Cross. That's probably my thought process with 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.120 it as well. The other thing you think about here too, Brian, 0:05:05.160 --> 0:05:07.360 and I completely agree with you, is the fact that 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.760 the Panthers only have one first round pick. Yeah, and 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:12.400 there's smoke where they could be looking at a quarterback. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:14.800 I don't know if you've heard anything specifically about that too. 0:05:14.839 --> 0:05:17.480 About they like Kenny Pickett. It's one of the only 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.160 spots where he's actually favored to go over Malik Willis 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:23.000 in the first round. So if they like Kenny Pickett enough, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:25.919 are they willing to trade out of that pick and 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:27.680 go all the way back down to twenty four or 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:29.720 is it going to cost you more? See that's I 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.279 think I think they're worried a little bit about the 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.840 minefield that they're going to have to walk on that quarterback, 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:36.919 you know. I mean I mentioned all those teams with 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.000 multiple picks. Is somebody going to if they come all 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.400 the way down to twenty four and they're hunting that quarterback? 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.080 And then I mentioned all those teams that are interested 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.240 in moving that second first round pick. Philadelphia might be 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.840 a team. You know, you just have to be like 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:53.920 mindful that, hey, you could lose your quarterback somebody coming 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.599 up the board and making a making a little bit 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.360 of an aggressive play. Maybe Pittsburgh would be a team 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.840 that I would think of that could be, you know, 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.440 a team that so, yeah, you have to be able 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:07.400 to evaluate where you can land. And I don't know 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:11.400 if Carolina going from six to twenty four is really 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.159 the best thing for them. Who are the threats? It's 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:18.160 for quarterbacks. It's Pittsburgh. But I think Pittsburgh. Everything we 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:21.080 hear coming out of Pittsburgh is they really like Willis. Yeah, 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.800 and so Willis. I don't think Washington. I think Washington 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:25.800 people looking and go, oh, they could take a quarterback. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:28.640 I was here in Washington is really high on Hamilton 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:31.080 and really high on Drake London. Yeah, and that that's 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.719 where they're kind of narrowed at this. I kind of 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:34.560 was thinking more what you were talking about with the 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:37.240 Saints and then also though with the with the Steelers 0:06:37.240 --> 0:06:39.360 though those were the two teams. I mean, I don't 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:41.719 know if they can if they can drop all the 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:44.120 way there. I think if if Carolina is looking at this, 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:46.120 they have to say, Okay, we'll drop to the middle 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.640 of the board. You know, well we'll figure out. I mean, 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.719 that might be a spot. I think the Saints aren't 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.719 done moving myself. I think the Saints the team that 0:06:53.800 --> 0:06:56.440 maybe and here's Carolina, would you would trade within your 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.800 division there? You know, I kind of I'll tell you 0:06:59.839 --> 0:07:02.960 this trade within your division to potentially give a different Yeah. 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.159 But also I've also heard this though too about the 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.840 general manager that Scott Federer. He's he's in a mode 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.160 right now where he might let this head coach hang 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.800 himself that he's willing seriously and I know now this 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.960 is this is one of those things where I think 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:22.720 that he's I think this GM's willing to move on. 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:24.800 I think he's I think he's willing to move on 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.640 from his coach. And you know, with that being said, 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.240 it might be okay, yeah, go ahead and take this guy, 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.960 or go ahead and make a move and go ahead 0:07:31.960 --> 0:07:35.280 and jack it all up, and then when you get fired, 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.160 I'll hire the guy I want to hire and we'll 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.520 go from there. That that's the kind of crap that 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.000 goes on in in football offices all the time. Man, 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:45.120 that didn't take long to fall from grace. Hum. No, 0:07:45.440 --> 0:07:47.680 not at all, not at all. But that's that's kind 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.720 of where that's where the general manager at Carolina really is. 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.560 There are some definite downsides to the Cowboys model of 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.720 ownership running the front office, but at least you avoid 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:00.760 some of that type of stuff I think. I mean, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.680 it would bumm me out so hard as a fan 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:05.920 to just be like, yeah, my GM's gonna stab the 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.080 head coach in the back this weekend. Well, the gym's 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.120 just gonna let him go. Yeah, you're like, okay, you 0:08:10.120 --> 0:08:12.360 want that guy, sure, take that guy. And then when 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.720 the guy doesn't work out, then boomed. Then you know 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:16.560 they're not gonna fire me. They're gonna fire you for 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.880 being an idiot. All right. So with all of that said, Carolina, 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.560 I don't think moves, okay, And I don't think Dallas 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.480 goods there. You don't you don't think they move period, 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:26.080 or you don't think they move back that far. I 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.880 just know I don't think they move back that far. Okay. Yeah. 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:30.880 If they move, I see it being more toward like 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.480 the eleven, twelve thirty. Yeah. So with that in mind, 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:37.280 Carolina stays put. Charles Cross is the pick, which it's 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:39.760 almost like they were reading quarterbacks. No, they did not. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.320 They go Charles Cross. The New York Giants again at seven, 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.440 then linked heavily to Sauce Gardner, but he is gone. 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.920 They opt for Kyle Hamilton at seventh overall. Pick Cavon 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.200 Thibodeau drops all the way to eight, and the Falcons 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:57.560 stop that in a hurry, adding arguably the best pass 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:00.320 rusher in the draft at eight overall. Not a bad 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:04.800 strategy in my opinion. Seattle with maybe the first true 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:09.440 surprise of this draft, Trevor Penning at ninth overall. I'm 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.680 not sure how to feel about that, but that's their apps. 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.840 Your thought process there? Why why did he go there? 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.480 I didn't do that. They didn't say it simul Okay, 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:18.960 I didn't know it was a simulator. I thought you 0:09:19.000 --> 0:09:21.240 did this yourself. My bad. I mean, I put a 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:24.320 lot of work into this, but I did not like manually. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:27.360 I thought, at least for the first round, you were 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.720 a surprise. I surprised myself. I trook Penning. Trevor Penning 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.920 goes nine, which I disagree with, but I don't run 0:09:34.000 --> 0:09:36.120 the Seahawks. I wouldn't be stunned of Penning goes top 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:39.240 ten though. Really it's Walker still on the board, no 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.439 second off. Sorry, okay, I was late to starting to 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:46.280 highlight these guys. I'm like, when we closer toward the Cowboys, brains, Okay, 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.080 give y'all a list, got you? I got you. I 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:49.920 was just I was highlighting him off the board, and 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.640 I'm like, okay, what did I miss here? You know? 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:54.720 I'm sorry, No, No, you're good. Derek Stingley goes ten 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.360 with the Jets second pick, and then I think, Bobby, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.079 your thought process is totally right. I think Washington is 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:04.240 really eyeing a receiver. In this case, they take Garrett 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.600 Wilson out of Ohio State. He is the first receiver 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.360 off the board. Minnesota heavily linked to a cornerback. With 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.720 the top two gone, they take Trent McDuffie twelfth. Overall, 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:16.760 you know what, let's say real quick, I think that 0:10:16.760 --> 0:10:20.240 that really hurt them to lose Stingley. By the way, 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.000 I think, I think min Minnesota. I think Minnesota's locked on. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.400 They were locked on Stingley. So I think that that 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.280 hurts him a little bit. As an LSU fan, it 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.360 would be a bummer for me because I think him 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.960 having Patrick Peterson in his locker room could only be 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.760 a benefit for him. Brian's been on that pretty much 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.360 since day one about having that that man tour in 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.360 the locker room. That would be a phenomenal pair. I 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:43.320 still think there's a a not impossible chance that on 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.000 Thursday night, Kyler Gordon goes ahead of McDuffie. Though no, 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:48.320 I agree with a lot of people I talked to 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.440 are really high on his upside ye, like he's got 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:55.080 the higher ceiling, that's that's that's that's coming from this building. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:59.600 It's true. Jermaine Johnson goes thirteen with the Texans second pick. 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.000 He made some money in Mobile and then man, I 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:05.120 think if there's one pick in the first round of 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.760 this draft that everybody has just decided is going to happen. 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:11.240 It's this one, which is another Cowboys target, Jordan Davis 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:14.319 going off the board to Baltimore at fourteen. Now, I 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.199 want to have another conversation here. I was gonna say, 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.640 I think we're looking trade up territory. I mean we are. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.199 We are in the fourteen fifteen range, and at least 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.479 one big name on the thirty visit list is still available. 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.080 A lot of people had Drake London pegged as a 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.760 top ten pick, but he's sitting here available with the 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:34.920 Eagles on the clock at fifteen. Again, having done the 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:40.160 math on this, you could conceivably get up there if 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:44.000 you really want to. For like, I don't think eighty 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:46.840 eight is enough to do it, but no, probably you 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.960 could throw in eighty eight and like a fourth. I 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.160 kind of felt you could just throw fifty six and 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.280 have it a done day. Yeah. I could do that too. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.280 I would just go ahead and go fifty six, fifty 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.679 six and twenty four. Do you feel like doing that? 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.040 Do you well? Actually I was about to say do it? 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:03.720 I feel like doing matter? Do I think the Cowboys 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.640 a phillis let's answer that one, because that's the important one. 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.080 Do you think I think the Cowboys love Drake London? 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:12.800 I agree with you. They brought him here, which is 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.320 an indicator. Yeah, and I think if he got all 0:12:15.320 --> 0:12:17.280 the way down to fifteen, they'd get excited. I think 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.439 they start having conversations if this is what happens, Yeah, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:22.600 I mean if it's But again, it's going to cost 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.600 you likely your second man. I think that. To be 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.520 honest with you, I think you gotta get to I 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.400 know you made the pick at fourteen, right was Baltimore. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.439 I was going to say, I mean, okay, the odds 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:36.040 that they do back to back trades with Philly seems no. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:38.120 But I mean no, no, no. I was just thinking 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.960 because Philly's a team that's also hunting wide receivers a 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:44.880 little bit. So I mean, to me, does Philly move 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:47.200 to twenty four thinking that they have a chance to 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.320 draft Drake London? You know, I don't know if that 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:52.560 drives I don't know if that drives them down the 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:54.880 board to go do that. Maybe they like one of 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.439 these other receivers. Maybe they think Chris o' lobby is 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.480 going to be there, something like that. But that they've 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:02.640 got a second. They've got a second, you know, first 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.920 round pick though too. Do they pick again at eighteen? Yeah? 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.320 You know, does it? Do they do? They get cute there? 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.120 I think the I think the Howie Roseman loves getting cute. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:15.120 That's like his draft day m O. But in the 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.199 division with a potential wide receiver who's also a potential 0:13:18.240 --> 0:13:20.840 target for your own team, I don't. I don't see 0:13:20.960 --> 0:13:24.040 maybe Eagles even having a conversation for tat the Cowboys 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.800 helped the Eagles draft. Yeah, wasn't that different position though, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.120 because we're talking about if somebody in the division was 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.040 getting him, So you just were picking who you were 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:35.320 gonna help. So we think the Cowboys would be interested 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:38.640 in doing this. But we also think that this particular scenario, 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.160 the Eagles probably hang up the phone. Yeah, I don't. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:42.720 I don't think they. I don't think they play ball 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.920 with you. Yeah, aren't. And you got the Saints in 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:47.319 that mix too, right there, with those picks coming up 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.160 atteen six, they're looking at they're looking at wide receiver. Well, 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.480 I just think if you really, if you're interested in 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.800 Drake London, you probably have to go higher. I think 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.120 you got to go to Baltimore. I think you got 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.880 to go to fourteen, maybe Houston, just because that's the Houstons. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:03.040 Houston's another one. I mean, I just think you have 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.640 to get ahead of that. Philadelphia New Orleans kind of mixed. 0:14:06.679 --> 0:14:08.920 I think realistically, I mean, in the scenario, yeah, you 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.480 gotta go to Baltimore. You maybe got to go to 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:12.400 the Technis. I think realistically you may have to go 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.760 to the Jets on Thursday night if you want to trade. Yeah, wow, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.160 Because I think Washington really likes Drake London. Okay, so 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.600 if that, if that's the case, we're gonna probably lose 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:24.680 Drake London. I mean, because I want to make this 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.880 thing as clean as possible. If I think, I think 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:29.440 a flat second could do it for the Jets, drop 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.680 back to twenty four, a deep receiver drafting you pick 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.560 up fifty six. I think that could potentially do it. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.320 For See, this is where I was trying to trade. 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:37.120 Remember the show where we tried to trade to Maury 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.280 Cooper to the Jets for to move from twenty four 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:44.600 to to ten. This is the kind this is when 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.400 you needed that to work. That you said, Okay, here's 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.360 a player, here's a wide receiver. You took whoever you 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.520 wanted at four and here you got a guy that's, 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.920 you know, one of the top receivers in the in 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.280 the in the NFL. So here here's your guy. Let 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:01.400 us come up there. And now now you do. Now 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:04.240 you had the opportunity to take to Drake London's and 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.160 guys like that and not even have to worry about it. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.600 So some if this were to happen, the Cowboys would 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.640 need to jump somewhere between ten and fourteen. And I 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.280 hear what you're saying, Bobby, but I think the more 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.360 realistic scenario is they would need a little bit of 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:22.160 luck on their side, Like, yes, Derek Stingley is still available, 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.840 Washington ops to pick him, and now Drake London's falling 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.720 to thirteen maybe something like that. I think thirteen to 0:15:30.760 --> 0:15:33.480 me looks like a very plausible landing spot if you 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:35.440 if you're trying to get up. See this, And this 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.400 is something I brought up to Brian yesterday, is that 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:40.440 like when Ceedee Lamb fell to where he did and 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.240 everybody was surprised by it, that was just you were 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:44.880 surprised because of how well everybody just kind of generally 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.920 thought of Ceedee Lamb. We were we were selling Ceedee Lamb. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:49.920 I mean, I know on my board he was number one, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:52.040 but you didn't you didn't hear it. I mean, he 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.520 was what six on the board here overall, and so 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.440 I mean, you know, but you didn't hear a lot 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.400 of specific ties of well, the Raiders love Ceedee Lamb 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.720 and this team, Whereas that's the difference here with Drake 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:03.400 Lend And that's why I think it's harder to envision 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:07.280 London sliding like that is because I know Washington loves him. 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:10.320 I've heard Atlanta loves him. Jets. Do you think teams 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:13.880 Shore worried that he did not run a forty yard dash? 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:15.640 It's interesting, I thought that was good. I've heard from 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.040 a couple guys who didn't run forties this year, or 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:19.680 heard about a couple guys who didn't run forties this 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:22.000 year in just various positions. Didn't. It sounded like there's 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:24.320 a lot more teams that are just not caring about 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:26.280 that that they think they you know, they see the 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:28.320 play speed on tape and they're not. It sounds like 0:16:28.320 --> 0:16:30.320 teams are getting less worried about the forty times kind 0:16:30.320 --> 0:16:33.440 of antiquated a little bit less. Kirby Joseph at the 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:35.480 Illinois Safety he didn't run a forty at all this year, 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:37.840 and teams, I've heard there were a couple teams that 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.440 told him like, we don't care. How much does like 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:43.440 GPS tracking play into that, because it's not only play 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.680 speed on tape and seeing the guy go from point 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.720 A to point B, it's seeing specific numbers that match 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.560 up to that. Well. I think the other thing is, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.560 like Kirby Joseph had had he run or Drake Lenn, 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:55.320 I think they've got a good idea of what London 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.760 speed was, and so it's like, you know, he doesn't 0:16:57.760 --> 0:16:59.200 necessarily want to put it on there, but it's like, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.760 we don't need you put it on there because we 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:03.560 know what you are. You're not burner guy, You're not 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.960 running a four four. Yeah, so we agree jumping up 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:11.159 Drake London is a plausible target. It would have to 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.320 be in that range, but in this mock, we're not 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.200 more realistic going to one of the teams at thirteen 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:19.040 or fourteen then going to six. Okay, yeah, I agree 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:22.520 with that real quickly. How much does playing because we're 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.399 talking about Drake London being so high on the Cowboys board. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:29.439 How high it being Chris Olave and trailing Burke's in 0:17:29.480 --> 0:17:32.119 that board as at the same time is going to 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.960 affect them moving up. So if they're so high on 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.119 Drake London, is it that much of a gap to 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.040 Chris Olava and Burks to where it's not worth giving 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.080 up their second round pick to make that high. But yeah, 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.000 that's a conversation. I don't I don't think Burk's and 0:17:44.040 --> 0:17:46.040 a Lava are getting to them at this point. See 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:48.000 that's what I agree with Bobby on this. The more 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.480 I'm hearing things about that. Can you know my history 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.880 is I worked in Green Bay and talking to folks there, 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.679 they really love Burks And the reason they'll give you, 0:17:56.720 --> 0:17:59.160 they'll say is Davante Adams was a four five five 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:02.560 guy for a guy coming out of Fresno, big body. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.119 Brian Gudicus, the general manage up to give me the 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.560 big body guy. You know, it doesn't matter if he's 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.960 a four or five guy. So it seems like to me, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.800 you're gonna have to You're gonna have to be ready 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:13.800 for a couple of things. You're gonna have to be 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.560 ready for Green Bay at twenty two. If you want Burks, 0:18:16.880 --> 0:18:18.359 and I think you're gonna have to be worried about 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:22.600 an aggressive team again. I talk about the the zerline 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:26.280 mock draft where somebody gets ahead of Dallas for a lava, 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:28.760 you know, and that's you. You might be a situation 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:30.840 where if you're looking with at one of these wide receivers, 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.359 you're gonna be wiped out before they get to you. 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.879 I mean Arizona at twenty three, like, that's the trade 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.480 up targeting people. Look at Arizona just lost Christian. Arizona 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.440 could take a receiver. They could, I mean they could 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.159 take a love it. But now I think Packers and Burks. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.120 I think that you're gonna look the guys at Green Bay. 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:49.840 I heard the quarterback there loves Yeah. I tried my 0:18:49.880 --> 0:18:51.840 best to talk y'all into a trade up to make 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.760 this happen. I was trying to be Brian broad Us 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.879 and say, if you want your receiver, go get him. Yeah, no, 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.280 y'all not no, no, no, no, you're not wrong, I 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:00.760 mean no, no, But I say we're trying to find 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:02.800 an area to go. I think you give us really 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:05.560 good options because at twenty four, if we're gonna sit 0:19:05.600 --> 0:19:08.080