WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Getting the W? 0:00:01.600 --> 0:00:04.120 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:07.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:11.959 a break? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely ready 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.800 for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. It's 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:20.360 time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Wall 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:27.000 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.920 It is Wednesday, November twenty eight, two eight scene, season fourteen, 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.440 episode number eighty seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break, 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.640 live from the s w ABC Portgage Studios at the Star. 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.200 Welcome to you, guys. We've got about I'll be doing 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:42.960 forty five minutes an hour today. I want to do 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.680 an hour. Let's do an hour. Director of Digital, I 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.040 don't know. You tell me director director of Digital five 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.240 years ago. I don't know. It's a long one. Huh 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:54.800 about forty five minutes? Forty five minutes. You know we're 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.760 gonna go an hour today. We're going a full hour. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:59.000 We're talking some Cowboys football. We're gonna get you guys 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.200 ready for Cowboys Verse Saints. That'll happen tomorrow night on 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:06.040 Thursday Night football. Um, and there's some interesting things we 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.840 got to talk about today, including some comments from DeMarcus Lawrence, 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.200 which I absolutely loved. But we'll talk about that a 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:16.199 little bit later in the show. We're gonna starts. Huh 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:21.080 a little aggressive and I like aggressive about well, well 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:22.880 wait till we get there. But but no, yeah, it 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.480 was a little aggressive. It was a little aggresive. But um, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.000 let's talk first about injuries. Yesterday we look at the 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:31.120 injury report. Cowboys have three waiting. I'm sorry, they have 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:35.560 five guys who did not practice, good burgers. Four of them, sorry, 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.360 four of them we knew weren't going to practice. Tavon Austin, 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:44.480 Sean Lee, David Irving, and Jeff Swain Tyren Smith. We 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:46.680 probably we knew it was probably not going to practice. 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:48.920 But he did not practice, and he's probably the one 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:52.880 of those five that even has a small chance of 0:01:52.920 --> 0:01:55.720 being able to play at this point. Um, what are 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.600 you guys thinking? What are you hearing as far as 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.280 the likelihood of him playing tomorrow night? That's the I mean, 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.280 that's you're right, that's really the only one. I think 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.240 the other, well, the other one of those the other 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.400 four definitely not playing, Yeah, and they were never expected 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.280 to for the rest of the year. Well, I want 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:13.919 to talk a little bit about David Irving, but let's 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.440 just hold that for a second. Is that who you're 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.359 talking about? Maybe, Okay, maybe not. Maybe there's others on that. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.280 All right, we'll talk about that in a second. I 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:25.320 haven't heard I have not heard any whispers leaning anyone 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.880 which way. You know, we said this earlier in the week. 0:02:28.360 --> 0:02:31.800 He hasn't practiced. That's not a good sign, but he 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.200 is definitely on that list of guys that don't need 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:38.079 to practice. Um, if he does anything, you know, I'm 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.040 sure the Cowboys are holding a walk through at some 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.040 point today. Maybe they can get him into that. And 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.560 like I said, like he'll he'll be out there early 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.480 with the trainers tomorrow, you know, five o'clock, trying to 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:52.480 get loose and see how he feels. Um. I've leaned 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:55.200 toward thinking he'll probably sit, especially when you think, you know, 0:02:55.240 --> 0:02:57.600 you got a division game next. If he doesn't play 0:02:57.600 --> 0:03:00.280 in this game, he's got a long weekend to cover. 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.960 Just seems like a better safe than sorry type of 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:08.440 situation to me. Cam Fleming last week had some rough moments, 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.680 but also played pretty well. Definitely played better in the 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.960 second half. The entire offensive line played better in the 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:16.560 second half. How much confidence do you have in him 0:03:16.800 --> 0:03:18.600 that would you have in him this week as a 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:21.400 starter last week? It's one thing when when the team 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.640 because I don't think anyone including us, expected that Tyrone 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.119 was gonna miss last week. So once you figure out 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.440 that he's not playing, and then he has to go 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:32.360 in and Cam Fleming has to go into the game, 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:35.160 that's one thing for a defender to have to adjust 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.760 to this week. My assumption is that the New Orleans 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.840 Saints are looking at this team and looking at Cam 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.760 Fleming specifically those pass rushers, and saying, that's the guy 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:44.440 that we're probably gonna have to play this thing. I'm 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.119 gonna have to be What does he not do well? 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.080 How much confidence do you have in him to be 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.120 able to be successful in that kind of scenario. I 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:52.920 don't really put a lot of stuck get in that 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.720 because I think most of the time, if you talk 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.560 to somebody from the Saints, they would say, oh, Tyrant's 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.600 gonna play. You know that. I don't think they still 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.760 believe's gonna think that they believe that, and because they 0:04:03.760 --> 0:04:05.880 can prepare for that, and if they have to prepare 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.240 and play against Fleming. That's fine, you don't you don't 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:09.880 want it to be the other way around, and you 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:12.680 start preparing for Fleming. I don't, really, I don't. I 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:14.960 think there's too much put into that. I think that 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.480 Cam Fleming is gonna have to go out and play well. 0:04:18.240 --> 0:04:20.480 He is what he is. He's a he's a kind 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:23.160 of a he's not a journeyman yet, but he's that 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.280 guy where he's kind of bounced around a little bit. 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.159 He's pretty good, but he's not that great, and he's 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:31.200 a backup lineman, and those guys get exposed if you 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:35.440 leave him out there for too long, especially um, you know, 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:38.240 got a Pro Bowl defensive end and Cam Jordan, who 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:41.119 he actually he flip flops around on their defensive line. 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.480 But i'd imagine he's going to get some run at 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.839 right defensive end if Cam Fleming is playing, U feel 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.240 better that he had, you know, a full week to 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:51.880 take starters reps and get acclimated because he I mean, 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.320 he said after the game on Thanksgiving that he didn't 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:55.800 know he was going to be starting until he got 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:59.400 to the stadium on Thursday, So that'll hopefully make a difference. 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:01.680 I don't, you know, I don't think he's gonna look 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.679 like Chad's green out there. And I hate for Chad's 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.680 green that we're gonna say that for the Restord he 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.480 just got signed. Yeah, he's in Oakland now. He was 0:05:08.520 --> 0:05:10.680 actually with the Saints for a little while, but good 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:12.880 for him. I thought it was with the Saints. He's 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:14.880 with Oakland now either though he just got signed yesterday. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.920 I just hate, like, fifty years from now on, you know, 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.360 if Cowboys Break is still a thing, people gonna be like, well, 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.920 the anniversary off Cowboys Break. Hopefully he's not gonna give you. Hopefully, 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.039 he's not gonna get Chad's greened out there like he's 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:28.359 the bar He's like, anything better than Chad's green than 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.880 you're Okay, that's what happens, and have one of the 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:35.120 worst games in history NASCAR break. Is that what we're doing? 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:39.039 Fifty years, ten years from now? How about that? Okay? 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.400 For a long time, For a long time, Chad's green 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.279 will be the barometer there? Would you say? A little 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:48.479 diego over there? That's what she says. Her kid's gonna be, 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:51.800 Oh my god, really diego If I have a kid. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:54.880 I don't know why we're talking about that. Yeah, when 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:57.839 I have a kid, my boy's gonna be named Diego. 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:00.680 You guys sure do love to let us be on 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.320 the road. I know, we just look for opportunities to 0:06:04.120 --> 0:06:08.919 fifteen minutes, Dave, um, I've lost my training. You know what, 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:11.720 I think, Cam Flumbing will be fine. It makes it's 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.760 all relative right, He'll be all right. It makes me 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:19.160 wonder the severity of this injury because coming off the game, 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.080 when you saw tiring fall on the ground, it looked 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:25.599 pretty serious, it looked pretty painful. But then when he 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:29.120 talked to the media, he basically said, I'm okay, I'm fine, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.919 And that's kind of the thing that he always says. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:36.719 And it's gonna keep Sam Yeah, yeah, And again, in 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.760 my opinion, I would imagine this whole season he's been 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:43.280 playing with some kind of pain already from the past. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:48.839 So to be painful enough or severe enough to where 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:51.360 now it's keeping you off the field, what does that 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:54.479 mean for the future, especially a guy that has already 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:57.520 been dealing with injury. But again, you look at this 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:02.240 game and you, guys, you and Dave said yesterday that 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:06.880 this is not necessarily a game that you need to win. Therefore, yes, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.040 keep him off to the side. In case you do 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:13.320 make it to the playoff, then you can just tell him, well, no, 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.360 you need you need Well, here's still you need to win. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.600 You gotta win. You just don't think they will win. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.840 I don't think I'm talking about this specific game though. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:24.640 I agree with you. Well we move on. If you 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.800 know they can't handle that they lose this week, it's 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.200 not the end. If they lose next week to Philadelphia, 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:35.080 I believe their chances of then winning the division decreased 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.680 significantly in my opinion. Now maybe it doesn't, but that's 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:40.320 my opinion. So I'm way more concerned about what's going 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:42.840 to happen against Philadelphia than I am what's gonna happen 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.400 this week. I think you can set yourself up in 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:47.120 a very very nice position by winning this week. But 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.040 I don't think it kills you if you don't. That's 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.760 the point, and that's why I would sit tyn Uh 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.040 give him ten days to get ready for that game. 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:56.240 You just you have to beat Philly. You don't have 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.280 to beat the Saints. It would be fun. Yeah, you 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.840 don't have to win. It would be good. It would 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.480 be in a great position if you can beat them, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.480 you think they can beat them without Tyrant? Oh Philly. Yeah, 0:08:05.520 --> 0:08:08.080 of course they can't yet beat anybody. I mean, but 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.640 that's not the point yourself about to have the best 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.640 players possible healthy for the most important game. There you go, 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.720 there you go, Okay, No, I mean, honestly, I just think, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:19.920 I honestly think that Philadelphia is the one that has 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:22.520 the bull's eye on it. You lose that game, and 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.560 it's it's to me, it's it's gonna make it very 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.120 tough down the stretch for you to be able to 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:28.520 win this division. If you're not, if you don't have 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.520 that tige break over Philadelphia, I think you need it. 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:33.760 I agree. All right, let's let's talk a little bit 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:36.000 more about I guess the inactives. At this point, we 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.959 know that those four Tavon, Austin, Sean Lee, David Irving, 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.920 Jeff Swain will be inactive right now. If we had 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.640 to guess, would you say Tyrant's probably inactive? If I 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:50.320 had to guess, I think, so, okay, that gets you 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.000 to five. I wouldn't. I would not put him on 0:08:53.080 --> 0:08:55.280 the list. I think you can get there without putting 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:58.920 him on the list, just because because you've got Connor 0:08:58.960 --> 0:09:01.400 Williams as your own back up there, and he hasn't 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:03.880 practiced all year. I mean, I would think you could 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:06.600 probably put him in uniform like he did last week, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:11.760 and so you would just then go with the backup quarterback. Yeah, 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:13.800 I mean you can do it for sure. It kind 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.800 of goes back to what Derek said yesterday though, like 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.760 if he's not healthy enough to start, it reminds me 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.960 of what I said about Travis Frederick too. Just remove 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.080 the temptation to use him, Like if he's not healthy 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.160 enough to start, then why it's he healthy enough to 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:28.760 do anything? Because eighty percent Tyren Smith is good enough 0:09:28.760 --> 0:09:31.560 to start. Probably a seventy percent Tyren Smith is good 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.360 enough to start if you tell him. He's a lot 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:35.440 less than that as far as just his health and 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:37.560 his ability to do things. I don't know if you 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.839 want him out there at all, right, but I mean 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:43.120 they he was active last week, so yeah, and you could. 0:09:43.160 --> 0:09:45.440 I mean, so Mike White'll sit. That gets you to five. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.520 Chris Covington is always a candidate to sit. You'd like 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.080 to have more defensive or more linebackers than that, but 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:55.760 you could sit him. You could sit the safety darry 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.760 and Thompson. There's an easy way to get into the 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.080 defensive line. You've I have a lot of guys there 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.880 now because the typical comes back, you don't necessarily need 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:08.719 could she got a lot of options of guys that 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.160 you can make inactive, Plenty of options if you know 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:16.800 what Tyran Smith. Because we're doing it then yeah, yeah, 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.680 keeping active because it doesn't make sense so that if 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.240 he was to be inactive, the week to do so 0:10:22.480 --> 0:10:25.839 was last week, right, which is the closest to when 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:29.319 his injury happened. Now, you're supposed to progress a time 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.880 as time goes by. This is another week a head, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.679 so why would you make him inactive now? The thing 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.000 you gotta remember, though, is when you're talking about stingers, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.960 when you're talking about anything that's nerve related, that's not 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:46.080 like a typical let's say you gotta sprain knee that yes, 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.200 over time is going to get better yet, but but 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.000 I don't know that. But with nerves, it's not a 0:10:51.040 --> 0:10:53.840 thing where it's just like you can really say, well, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.480 it's better today than it was yesterday. Right, It's just 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:59.439 it takes its own time to kind of get better, 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:02.520 and and you might feel better today and then feel 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.960 worse tomorrow. I mean, I've had some dealt with some 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:07.520 stuff with nerves. Like it's all over the map. Yeah, 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.360 it's all over the map. You just don't Yeah it does. 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.320 It really sucks because you might think you're starting to 0:11:11.320 --> 0:11:13.960 feel better, but then you know a day later you 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:16.760 feel horrible. Right, So it's just I don't know. You 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.800 just really don't know how that all plays out. And 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.400 so I think I kind of agree with Dave that 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.800 maybe just take away the temptation. But if you have 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:28.760 the the inactives already and you just have the extra 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:31.360 spot to make him active, there's probably no harm in 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.439 making him. I just don't necessarily want to see him 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.160 have to play if he's not healthy enough to start, 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:38.960 is the way I look at it. Ten years ago, 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:43.240 one of the worst losses ever that the Cowboys have 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:46.400 had since we've been here was the game against the Rams. 0:11:46.440 --> 0:11:49.760 Remember that back in two thousand and eight, and Romo 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.640 had gotten hurt a week before and they put him 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.560 out in uniform, had a broken finger, and they put 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.320 him in uniform for the game against the Old and 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.960 four Rams, and they let Brad Johnson start a round. 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:02.719 Terrible you just go with. And it was one of 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.560 the worst losses. They lost by like twenty points, and 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:07.839 Romo was in uniform the whole day and it was 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:10.440 kind of he had been throwing passes and it just 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.920 caused all this confusion. So now, like I kind of 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.880 see your point a little bit there, because I remember 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.840 that day was so frustrating. It was like, why would 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:19.800 you even have him out there if you think he 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:22.719 could maybe do something? At what point in this game 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.040 do you not say, please come in and save us here? Right? 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:27.400 Remember that? Yeah? I do remember that. Here's two sides 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:30.040 to that too, because I mean, you know, if Cam 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.640 Fleming is just getting his butt whipped and Tyrn standing 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.080 there in uniform, yeah, or the flip side of that 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:40.760 is Cam Fleming, you know, dislocates his finger and has 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.040 to come out for a snap and tyr And is 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.760 sitting even you know, you only need him for six plays, 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.560 but he's unavailable and so you got to send Connor 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.640 Williams out there to play tackle when Tyran probably could 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.560 have gotten through a series. So six to one half 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:57.319 a dozen together, which is why you know, people roll 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.160 their eyes at that me included, You're like, who's a 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.000 game time decision. Bs, But yeah, I think it probably 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.200 truly is for him. You go out, see how it feels, 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:08.160 see how he's moving, YadA, YadA, YadA, try to come 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:10.640 up with can he start? Do you think he could 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.880 give you fifteen plays if he needed to, and then 0:13:13.080 --> 0:13:14.839 you know, make your determination. Yeah, there's a lot of 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.760 things that play there. I mean, like what's his range, emotion, 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.760 we start talking about this kind of injury, like can 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:20.600 he move his arm a certain way? How does it 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.200 you know, all those things matter, and that probably is 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:25.839 a day to day type thing. So it literally would 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.439 be a get him out to the stadium tomorrow, test 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.360 it out, see how he feels, see what his pain 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.679 level is, like all those things, and then you have 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.320 to make a decision on how much you think you 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:37.840 can use him in whether like Dave says, maybe it 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.680 is you feel like, hey, if he had to play 0:13:39.679 --> 0:13:41.160 a series, he could, If he felt if he had 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:43.440 to play two series, he could, well, Okay, in that instance, 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.360 maybe you make him in, you make him active, so 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.160 if you get into that pinch, you can throw him 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.480 out there for a little bit and help yourself. All right, 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:52.800 let's take let's take our first break. We'll take an 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:54.760 early break here. 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The Cowboys 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:56.480 did when they named John Deer their official tractor experience 0:15:56.560 --> 0:16:00.800 one for yourself. Visit my John deardealer dot com football 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.440 Back to the Break, Welcome back. This is the second 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.040 segment of The Break live from the SWBC Mortgage studios 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.640 at the Star, talking Cowboys versus Saints. That happens tomorrow night. 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:15.680 It is a Thursday night football kick off with the 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.600 Cowboys at home, and we'll get a chance to see 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:23.440 how they perform against this ten and one Saints team. Dave, Yes, sir, 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.080 Let's talk a little bit about the Saints defense. Let's 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:29.560 do it. What you got? Um? Well, the big talking 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:31.880 point that I think everybody's heard at this point in 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.400 time is their run defense, which you know, anytime the 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.400 Cowboys play a good run defense, it's gonna be much 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:42.400 bally hood. I don't mean this in any disrespect to them, 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.760 but it just it reminds me of the twenty sixteen Cowboys. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.440 I think it's really more of a product of how 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.000 often they're playing with leads than that. It's just this 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:56.000 impenetrable front so I'm just really curious to see how 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.240 that plays out and see all you know, unstoppable force 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:01.360 to move a blah object. I think the Saints, I mean, 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.840 I think the Cowboys can have success against these guys. 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:08.480 This is a talented group, but we've just we've seen 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.000 them execute at two high of a level for the 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:12.760 last three weeks for me to think the Saints can 0:17:12.800 --> 0:17:17.200 completely shut them down. Um, they're number one against the run, 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.479 they're still their middle of the pack. Just as a defense, 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:23.159 their secondary has been surprisingly bad because it was actually 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.360 a strength last year. You know, they drafted Marshawn Lattimore. 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.320 They brought in Marcus Williams, who I know he made 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.439 the terrible play that lost them in the Minnesota game 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:34.760 in the playoffs, but actually had a really great rookie 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:38.600 season before that. Hold on, why are they bad? Dude? Like? What? What? 0:17:38.800 --> 0:17:41.719 What tells you that they're bad? They're giving up an 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:45.440 average of three hundred yards per game, but the run 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.360 defense is no, You're right, I mean their number, you're 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.359 both of these are slightly skewed because of how teams 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.880 have to play against. Yes, you are. That's all I'm saying. 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.879 There is just I did an interview yesterday and they 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:58.960 were like, there's a number one run defense. I'm like, okay, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.639 but I'm sure teams aren't just running the ball in 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:03.760 the second and third quarter. You're absolutely right. The numbers 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.080 are skewed because they pass a lot. They still give 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:09.760 up big plays though, like they give up gains in 0:18:09.920 --> 0:18:14.280 coverage again, probably because opponents are throwing so much against them. 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:19.000 And to their credit, it really seems like they're rounding 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:22.719 into form over the last month or so, not so much. 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.080 I mean, you know, they gave up three hundred and 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:26.960 seventy four yards to Matt Ryan, but they have forced 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.640 eleven turnovers in their last five games. I believe eight 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:34.080 of those are interceptions. Lattimore is a top ten pick. 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.120 Williams is good. Kurt Coleman used to play with the Panthers. 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.919 He's a veteran guy, and they traded for Eli Apple, 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.080 who He's not lighting the world on fire, and he's 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:44.800 probably the guy that you want to pick on in 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:49.240 this matchup, but he is. He's playing better the longer 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:51.760 he's there. Do they travel those guys like they travel? 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:54.600 I think I think they would prefer not to. And 0:18:54.680 --> 0:18:58.159 I've talked to Brian about this. He thinks that, you know, 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.680 let's if Amari Cooper has sets against Apple, he thinks 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.280 they'll move Lattimore or they'll do something. But I don't, 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:07.480 you know, I don't think it's going to be a 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:10.800 scenario where Lattimore just starts out going wherever Cooper goes. 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:13.280 I think they'll adjust to that as the game goes along. 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.320 And the good thing to note about about Cooper is 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.600 that he can play all all the positions, so they 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:20.800 can move him all across. So it makes it tough 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:23.000 for teams to say, hey, we're just going to travel 0:19:23.080 --> 0:19:24.800