1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: My next guest. He's an owner executive chef Thats means 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: food of several very popular restaurants. He was born and 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: raised in St. Petersburg, Florida, and attended college at the 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: University of Florida. That means he's a He's the Gator. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: He's he's the Gator. Okay, all right, sec okay cool. 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: After graduating with a dual degree in business administration and 7 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: sports management, he decided to enroll in culinary school. Okay, 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: now that's a that's a switch. Now, please working. He's 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: here to tell his story and all the success he's 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: had over the years since he's graduated with that culinary degree. 11 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: Please welcome to money making Conversation. Ed wardle Jordan's thank 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: you for having me. Oh pretty good? Where you Where 13 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: are you at right now? Where are you calling from? 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: Right now? I'm in Seattle, Washington. I'm home before I'm 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: headed to work. Seattle, Washington. Now, I've been to Seattle 16 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: a couple of times, as you do stand up comedy. 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: I went up there way back in the day. This 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: some jokes up there. I stopped in there when I 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 1: was going to Vancouver for a cruisiness. So but I'm 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something. Let's let's talk a little bit 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: about you before we get to this this, this menu, 22 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 1: that that that that really and I'm already told I'm 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: gonna just tell you this at Waddle, UM, I'm you're 24 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: gonna see me before the year out, brother, that you're 25 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna see me for they let everybody know, you're gonna 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: find out why why I'm gonna go up there with 27 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: my wife. She's already, she's already signed off. She's gonna 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: be coming up there with who got together day? Do 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: you have a chef table at your restaurants? And we 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: were there, you go, okay, cool, Let's talk about the 31 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: beginning because I talked about uh, we talked about the 32 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: degrees and the business administration and that still that still 33 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: helps you out now because you're you're you know, your 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: your owner, your entrepreneur, So that degree, that business administration 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: does help you out. Then you went into sports management. 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: How did the whole culinary part of your life start 37 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: to rise to the top. Well, you know, I I 38 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: honestly I started with food at the age of nine. Um. 39 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: You know, food has always been um an intimate part 40 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: of like, uh, my experience growing up. Um, you know, 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: when I was nine years old, my mom put me 42 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: in the kitchen because she noticed that I had an 43 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: interest for food, because I was always asking my grandmother questions. 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: My grandmother's a Southerner, She's originally from Kiro, Georgia, and um, 45 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, her specialty was cooking big old lavish meals 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: for the family and friends to come over and hang 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 1: out her at her house. Um, you know, for family unions, 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: after church, you know, all the holidays. Um, it was 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: all about grandma. And so you know, I took an 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: interest into foods then and there. And I guess that 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of you know, played a role in my life 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: later on when I was decided onto the real direction 53 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: that I wanted to go in on my true passion. Um. 54 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: So it was all about like that that foundation with 55 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: mom and grandmother of like hospitality and food. Mom showing 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: me around the kitchen, my mom giving me my first cookbook. 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: That's probably like the age of Pano eleven. I don't 58 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: remember the exact time period. Um. What the question that 59 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: will pop out is that you said, it's just nine, 60 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Why didn't you immediately go into that direction? Why did 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: you go to oh man? Um, you know it was. 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: It was kind of like, you know, the reality is, um, 63 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, my mom and my dad wanted me to 64 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: go to college. Was the first person in my family 65 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: to go to college. And we're talking about extended family too. Um. 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: And so their mission wants to make sure that I, 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: you know, get an education, also get a degree that 68 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: is gonna send me in the path that they thought 69 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: and believe it's going to be great for me, and 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, become a doctor, become a lawyer, become a 71 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: sports agent or something that dictated high paying, well all 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: established job with benefits, etcetera. So, um, their mission was 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: just point me in the right direction. And cooking was 74 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: definitely not the direction they assumed that I should be going, 75 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: because that's gonna be real. You know, you've got a 76 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: lot of cooks out there, but don't have a lot 77 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: of chiefs of color out there exactly. And in the 78 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: reality is, you know, um, the pot in their world 79 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: is a very hard world. I mean, you're working, you know, 80 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 1: thirteen fourteen hours a day, um, not getting paid the 81 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: highest wages and um, you know, dollar for dollar per hour, 82 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: you're definitely working way more than most doctors and most 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: lawyers for you know, far less. So they saw, you know, 84 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: me going to college as a as a better direction 85 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: for me, and they definitely encouraged me, like, you know, 86 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: follow my dreams and everything, like cook, enjoy it still, 87 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: become a doctor and then one day you can own 88 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: your own restaurant while you're a doctor. Kind of thing. 89 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: Now with Florida having a good time, that's big football, powerhouse, 90 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: basketball house. So you so you then the cooking really 91 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: is what you want to do. You you've satisfied their expectations, 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: their dreams. I always tell people, you can't report degree. 93 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: So I love it. I love the fact my degree 94 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: is a mathematics You can't they coming and go, you 95 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: know something, that degree after, we're gonna take that degree, after, 96 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: we're gonna take the way from No, you can't do that, 97 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: you can't do it. Why don't that degree? Here's that wall? 98 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: And you say, I'm out. We're good. We're good. Okay, 99 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 1: I don't care what that college loan is. We're good, 100 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: we're good. And so so the beauty of what you 101 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: at right now is that I love this conversation because 102 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: it talks about defining your path. It talks about understanding 103 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,039 Speaker 1: that I can, I can accomplish many things, but all 104 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: those are things that I really want to do, and 105 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: so cooking is what you really wanted to do. And 106 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: so I always here's the thing that we want to 107 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: talk about, because climbing the ladder to be a chef, humbleness, 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: low pay long ourls again, homeleness. You know, sometimes you're 109 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: being bullied because people have power over you and you 110 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: have to be able to navigate that. And then you're 111 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: a person of color, so there's a lot of questions. 112 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: Then you stigmatize. Yeah, you stigmatize, you know what, especially 113 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: if you want to go outside of what they think 114 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: you can you you know what I'm saying. So, so 115 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: just talk about that journey a little bit there. Yeah, 116 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: I mean it was a it was a it was 117 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: a hard, very strenuous, humbling journey. You know. I ended 118 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: up going to culinary school UM after graduating from the 119 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 1: University of Florida. So I was a little bit older 120 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: than most people in culinary school. I think it was 121 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: like twenty five years old. UM, so, so I'm looking 122 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: like an elder compared to seventeen year old. UM. But 123 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: I was extremely focused and and I realized, like in 124 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: culinary school that was a reality check, you know. It 125 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: was we probably had ten percent of people of color there, 126 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: and out of that ten percent, probably five percent graduated. 127 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: Of that five percent that graduated, two percent ended up 128 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: finding a decent job. And out of that two percent 129 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: you got me the one percent that is still remaining 130 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: that I know of. Um. And so that was pretty 131 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: much my my journey in my path because as I 132 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: ended up going, you know, to get you know, distinguished 133 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: jobs that distinguished locations. I ended up becoming an intern 134 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 1: or apprenticeship at the French Laundry and Napple Valley, you know, 135 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: one of the most prestigious restaurants in the in the 136 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: in the world, I should say, but definitely in this country. UM. 137 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: You know, that was that was that was the stepping 138 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: stone to my career. But at that at the same 139 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: time I realized that, you know, I was again of 140 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: that organization. You know, it wasn't many people of color there. 141 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: And as I progressed in my career, you know, I 142 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: had to humble myself more because I was in the 143 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: fine dining world. And as you move up in that 144 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 1: ladder of cuisine, the style of cuisine, you know, the 145 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: level of restaurants you realize that that precentage trinkles down 146 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: more and more with people of color, women, minorities of etcetera. Um. 147 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: And the reality check was that, you know, it was 148 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: a white chef's world for me, I was running them. 149 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: And that's a that's an honest statement to talk about, 150 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, not not because you know, because of the 151 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: fact that the reality is is the we don't know 152 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: what goes on behind closed doors, and that's what can't 153 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: you go. You see, you see food being brought out, 154 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: and even then people complaining. And sometimes that's when a 155 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of for some reason, chiefs always come to my table. 156 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: You know, I guess because I just love food. They 157 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: go like, is your meal good? Go? Yes, it's fine, fine, 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: and I will send food back now if I don't 159 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: like it, I said, hey, dude, I'm sorry, it's just 160 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: not working for me. To not work for me, absolutely absolutely. 161 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about because I wanted to get that 162 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: part of the story out, that part of the journey out, 163 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: because we want to talk about the uniqueness of your 164 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: success story. And then it continues to grow. Explain everybody 165 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 1: the James Beard Award, oh man, so you know, think 166 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: about the Emmys and the oscars UM and the James 167 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: Beard is just as equal for the culinary world UM 168 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: as those prestigious awards. UM. It's the foundation one started, 169 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, to recognize culinary arts, world chefs, restaurant tours, um, 170 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: industry movements and shakers by distinguishing them with once a 171 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: year honoring the best of the best. And you know, 172 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: I'm I can say I'm fairly blessed with the fact. 173 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: Come talk to tell us what you got man to 174 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: with two distinguished awards in one year, which is unheard of, 175 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 1: you know, for one, for one minority to UM achieved 176 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: that award in one year, it's it's a feat on 177 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: his own. But to to achieve two recognitions for Best 178 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: Chefs UM Northwest and Best New Restaurant in the Country 179 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: James for um Um June Baby, it's you know that 180 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: which is mind blowing. It was out of the universe. 181 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: It was unheard of, you know, the first time that 182 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: ever has happened. You know, I have a lot of 183 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: I have a lot of first in my in my 184 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: in my career, and I and I strived and pride 185 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: myself on being first. I was the first black chefs 186 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: ever to grate the cover of Food and Wine Magazine 187 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: as Bestial Chefs two thousand and sixteen. You know that 188 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty huge. You think about at least some 189 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: of the culinary um dignitaries that have have walked walked 190 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: around here you go. You know, you got Marcus Samuson Clark. 191 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: You know, you've got some very distinguished life chefs that 192 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: have done great things that have not ever made it 193 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: to that cover of that magazine. And that's that's now. 194 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: That was a big honer. And that was a big, 195 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: big piece in the start of of of people recognizing 196 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: and and and realizing the talent that I had. How 197 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: many restaurants you are right now? How many restaurants? I 198 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: have three restaurants, um and My first restaurant was opened 199 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: four years ago in the name of its Solari Restaurants 200 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: um and and the significance about Salaria Restaurant it was 201 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: um As an African American, you know, people expected and 202 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: assumed that I was going to open eight particular restaurants, 203 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: uh and and And that was a misconception because you know, 204 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: I I am a culinary professional. I went to culinary school. 205 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: I trained with the best of the best. I've I've 206 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: worked in the same number of hours as some of 207 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: the best I've worked. I've put in the amount of 208 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: years I've cried, I bled, I've sweated, I stressed out. 209 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: I've done all of that. And the last thing I 210 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: needed someone to do is that make their own assumption 211 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,599 Speaker 1: of send me down their own rabbit hole or the 212 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: pigeon picture, holding me into what they assumed. And so 213 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: I opened up Salary Restaurant to actually kind of flex 214 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: my culinary muscles. Because I'm trained in French cuisine, I've 215 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: studied a tight cuisine. I have a Southern background. I 216 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: have a foundation that's better than most chefs because I 217 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: actually know how to taste in season because I come 218 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: from Southern Southern dialect, you know. So it's very, very 219 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: very important for me to actually express who I was 220 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: as a culinary professional, as a chef, and not necessarily 221 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: a chef of color. You know, that came came in 222 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: through the time that was coming in due times. I 223 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 1: should say um and so um. Salary Restaurant, my first 224 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: restaurant was hold that thought, right quick, We're gonna go 225 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: to the next We're gonna go to the break water, 226 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about the next two restaurants. We're 227 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: gonna save June Baby for lads. Okay, we're gonna bring 228 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: it back and talk about that third restaurant, but June 229 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: Baby is gonna be the restaurant. I'm coming up to 230 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Seattle to visit you for Okay, be right back with 231 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: more money making conversations. My maid, James Beard, the cover 232 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: culinary Jane. Yes, Hi, this is Roshan mcdownald. You're listening 233 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: to money making conversations, my guests. We we I was speaking. 234 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: I've been speaking to is the owner executive chef of 235 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 1: several very popping three in particular in the Seattle area. Um, 236 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: we've been speaking about this history. We've been speaking about 237 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: this journey, about finding focused as to who he is today. 238 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: You know, as you go through life, people will have 239 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: a plan for you. And his plan from his parents 240 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: and from his relatives and his extended family was to 241 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: go to school. He did that business administration, sports management. 242 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: But along the way he realized that really wasn't where 243 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: his heart was at. Since nine years old, he had 244 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: been he had been invested in the food, the whole process, 245 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: and just watching and observing it. Twenty five years of age, 246 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: he went to colinary school, which is now led to 247 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,439 Speaker 1: him having three restaurants, having a James being honored by 248 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: James Beard. Uh. This is really important because he's a 249 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: person of color. Please welcome back to the call, Eduardo 250 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: Jordan's thank you. Now let's talk about Lucienda Alias used 251 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: Cienda grain Bar. Let's talk about that, Yeah, bar, apologies. 252 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: It's my third restaurant. Uh, and it's an extension of 253 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: my first two restaurants. It is um my my pastry 254 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: kids in my commissary kitchen and also a full service 255 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: bar and restaurant. And um, we focused on ancient greens there. Um, 256 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about like hind corn and spelled and burley 257 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: rights and various pseudo grains millet and yeah spelled starting 258 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: millet and sorghum, you know, things of that nature, very 259 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: old world grains. We're focused on, um serving there and 260 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: um and so now then then it leads us to 261 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: the third restaurant. June Baby, let's talk about the name. 262 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: Where did that the name of the restaurant? When we 263 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: get into the men, let's talk about that first. Yeah, totally, 264 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Jim Baby, it's it's my dad's that's my 265 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: dad's nickname, that was his childhood nickname. Um, he'll run 266 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: through the streets and you know you'll you'll hear from 267 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: stories I've been told. You know they're yells him jew Baby, 268 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: come on back. If that ain't South, if that ain't South, 269 00:14:55,760 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: I'll tell you how over here there you go. Were 270 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: gonna leave you to We're gonna leave some words out 271 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: when he was late, Joe. You don't get Joe exactly. 272 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: So you know, I really wanted to have a restaurant 273 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: that represented, um, my family, my history, my culture, my dad. 274 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: I really talked about my dad when I talked about flu. 275 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: But my dad has played a very intimate party and um, 276 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: you know, teaching me how to cook and I was 277 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: outside clicking over fire and smoking meats and um, butchering um. 278 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: And so you know, I wanted to pay homage to 279 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: him when I created June Baby Restaurant, which is um 280 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: more tells the culinary story of my grandma and my mom. Um. 281 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: But the name it comes from my father. Awesome. Awesome. Now, yeah, 282 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I'm always you know, the question is always sent to 283 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: me for the interview, but I always do extra, always 284 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: trying to really personalize my approach, and so I went 285 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: on lie and I went to his social media, and 286 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: I saw some pig feet you see. Okay, now now 287 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: you're hitting home with no food that I grew up 288 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: with and so so. But then three like so he 289 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 1: wasn't scared, uh not at bringing back and bringing back memories. 290 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: So I'm let me talk a little bit. Let me 291 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about June Baby first. So when 292 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: I opened up June Baby, people people thought that was 293 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: the restaurant that I should have opened up first, But 294 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: I opened up so Lauri, what made me open up 295 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: a second restaurant second restaurant, which was June Baby, was 296 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: actually a business decision and not not a desire to 297 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: actually showcase my cuisine, my food, my culture. Um. But 298 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: when I came to the conclusion that I'm going to 299 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: open up a restaurant, a second restaurant focused on my 300 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: Southern background, um, something really struck me. And the fact 301 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: that like southern food, what's the cool thing now? Like 302 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: it was trending, everyone's like craving southern food. And when 303 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: I looked at all the culinary folks out there serving 304 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:12,719 Speaker 1: color uh southern foods, nine seven percent of them were white. Chefs. 305 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: And it struck my heart and struck my soul that 306 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: there wasn't many restaurants of the calibery restaurants that I 307 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 1: wanted to create that was ran playing and and and 308 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: organized by a chef of color and hold by a 309 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: cheffer's color. Because a chef of color cuisine is a 310 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: lot different than a cheffil no color cuisine. And so 311 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: there's a story that I needed to tell about Southern foods. 312 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: But so food from my perspective, and brother, you have 313 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: you are telling that story. Let me just I'm gonna 314 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: just rattle off some of the items that we're gonna 315 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: go back in detail in his menu. Port Crackling grew 316 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: up on that. Crackling grew up on that. Then he 317 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: got chicken gethers. I've never seen chicken garges anywhere. Chicken 318 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: gets him right there. Okay, okay. Then he goes to 319 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: traditional oxtail and brisk and bricks, risk is stew, got that, 320 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: got that fried catfish. You know you got something keep 321 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: you keep, you keep your stable just because you're not 322 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: ready for everything there. Then he comes on down to 323 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: College Greens. He got your stable there right there. Ben 324 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:21,239 Speaker 1: Ya's now the Bens gotta be right. Now, I'm all 325 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: this bore the Ben's gotta be right. Then you go 326 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 1: on the next page of oxtails again, you know Mama 327 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: Jordan's oxtails smoked turkey hog mall. Now, yes, sir, I'm 328 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: tell you some brother. But what you know about what 329 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: do you know? You know you might be faking them 330 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: out up there. That's why I'm coming up there. You 331 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: might be selling up some bad hog. Mom. You know, 332 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: some home maid hog, some hog. Did you think it's 333 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: a hog? Mall? When we show down come up to Seattle, 334 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you if your hug mom is right, 335 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: tell you a little something something brother's a hog more 336 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, we scared me that 337 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: when I saw chiding chiplings, baby, that is that is 338 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: the story of June. Baby man, it's it's food that 339 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I grew up on. Um. We ain't a lot of 340 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 1: chipling's in my in my household, not in my mom, 341 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: my grand My mom atee chipless, but my grandmother and 342 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: my dad, you know, chipling was the thing. And I 343 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: grew up on a lot of chipman's, and I strayed 344 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: away from chiplings and telling the story of children's for 345 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: many years because I had like an incident in school. 346 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: I told someone what I ate and they found it 347 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: up and made made fun of me and talk bad 348 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: about like my food. And I literally like to stop 349 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: talking about my my history. And now I have an 350 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: outlet to tell people the story and studdn food what 351 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: I grew up on the reality is the good and 352 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: bad of so food, sun food, Southern ingredients, and and 353 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. Now you know, I'm able to 354 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: express myself truly, and you're expressing it in a very 355 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: tasteful culinary way because like I said, you know, I 356 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: go so food places to get to chipling's. Okay, now 357 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: do you put you bring it out serving with white rice? 358 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: I do, hossa, David, we make out. We make Oh 359 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: you scam and gotta have that, yes, and we we 360 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: were the real deal. We're so far away from the South. 361 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: You you you got me here and telling my story 362 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: and and people question also like my Southern background because 363 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: I'm from Florida. They're like, boy, that's not the South. 364 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: Don't let me tell you something. Man. You know how 365 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: many people migrated just to escape the South, and their 366 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: story is still being cold everywhere. You know, we got 367 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: we got Southerners from Georgia that go all the way 368 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: to Texas. You got southerns from from North Carolina to 369 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 1: go down to New Orleans and Louisiana. So the migration 370 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: is real. And so I'm almost something of that migrated 371 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: all the way to Seattle, and I'm still able to 372 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: tell my story. So it makes me feel good that 373 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: I'm able to educate people here in Seattle and also 374 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: give people who are traveling some some comfort, something some 375 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: from my some some comics. You know, it's really it's 376 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: really great. Just hearing the food selection. It's really bad. 377 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 1: I'm just fantasizing because you're you're taking me back to 378 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: my childhood because of the fact that, again, these are 379 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: selections that are rare in a in a in a 380 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: restaurant if you go to definitely a restaurant in my caliber, 381 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 1: absolutely unheard of. First of all, let's unheard of. Let's 382 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: gonna put it be there. But like I said, when 383 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: he got deserted to y'all, because I'm a dessert I'm 384 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: a dessert nut. He got the apple peach ice cream sandwich. 385 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: He got the peach and blueberry blueberries, I'm gonna tell 386 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: you something, man. So you got me a blueberry right there. 387 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: My dad used to take me out man, and we 388 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: used to go pool blueberries and come on that we 389 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: go out there, pick up. If you watch that snake 390 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: over the board, don't go over there. Snake spit over there, 391 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: don't go over there. He's gonna gonna get bit. You know, 392 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. You know, you know, 393 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: to think about the process. It feels like when I 394 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: when I talk about your story, I talk about the restaurant. 395 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: I talked about the experience. Do you get a lot 396 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: of that from your customers who come into your restaurant? Um? 397 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 1: We do? I do? I UM you know, I get 398 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: people that have migrated from the South and they live 399 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: here in Seattle, and and they just they're they're over 400 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: the top. I've had people with tears and the us 401 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: saying how they remember their auntie, their grandma and mom 402 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: and the last time they had a sweet potato pot 403 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 1: like this. It was like, you know, the last time 404 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: they saw their grandma, um and and and and it's 405 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: it's it's that's the kind of hospitality I wouldn't give. 406 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: I want to make you feel like you're in my 407 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: home and you you're actually eating eating at my table, 408 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, and these are actually my table. So I 409 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: just want this to be extension of my home. So yeah, 410 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: we get that, you know. I also had to educate 411 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: a lot of people about the food because people have 412 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: their misconception of what Southern food and so food was 413 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: as of you know, one meet and three size and 414 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: dropped on the trade. And that's not the truth. You know. 415 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: That's so much more to it, the truth. I'm gonna 416 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: tell you something, you know. I'm gonna start out. I 417 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: love cornbrea. I'm I'm sure you're serving it warm. So 418 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start out with my cast i flint corn bread. 419 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: I got gotta start out with that right there. I 420 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: gotta roll into the gizze. It's okay. And I'm also 421 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: telling this. I'm gonna tell you this, tell you this 422 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: about me. I always eat my dessert first. So I'm 423 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: gonna get those beans. I'm gonna get those Benyer's up front. 424 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,199 Speaker 1: I'm get those beaniers up front. Okay, I'm gonna get 425 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: the bean years up front. And I'm gonna grab that 426 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: peach and blueberry Betty, get that up front. We're gonna 427 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: be rocking and rolling right there then, because I'm I'm 428 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: a sampler, so you know, you see me, you know, 429 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: you go, how do you eat all that food? But 430 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm I'm I'm gonna take care of this, okay, 431 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: And I gotta get the childlings and the rice and 432 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: the white rice. You always got the corn breads, so 433 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: you're just gonna drop that. You're gonna drop me some 434 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: old corn breads. And then you always got the collar greens. 435 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: Gonna get that mac and cheese, that mac and cheese. 436 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: And see what I forgot to mention about the collar greens. 437 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: It comes with hamhocks. Yeah, we're ham hocks. See see, 438 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm just throwing out I'm just throwing out a little 439 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: a little extra love to this menu because just let 440 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: him know I got the menu. Just letting you know. 441 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: At war though I printed out this menu, I came 442 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: in here and let you know I love what you do. 443 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: Keep doing what you're doing. You will see me this year. Uh, 444 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: Samantha will reach out to you. Gonna it's gonna be 445 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: on the weekend. I'm gonna come up there. We're gonna 446 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: have a good time. We're gonna laugh man, and uh, 447 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat and we're gonna tell stories, and I'm 448 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: gonna support your bread and congratulations for packing glass ceiling 449 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: and uh and I'm gonna keep supporting you man. And 450 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,239 Speaker 1: you've got something going on that special and you are 451 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: very special. Thank you for doing my show, Money making Conversations.