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Marcus Grant alongside Well 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: When I said the Fantasy Hall of Famer Michael Fabriano, 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: he's not with us today, but all right, so I 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: this is a weird way to start the show. Whatever, 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't care. Um. I have been referring to Graham 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: Barfield as the next gen stats Gurup, but it was 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: brought to our attention recently that Graham looks like a 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: much younger version of the actor Tom Skerrett, who's best 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: known as playing Viper in Top Gun. And so now 19 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if maybe he should be the fantasy Viper. 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: I feel like this is the thing we should put 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: out on the answerwebs. I mean, I don't get to 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: choose my nickname right now, nicknames choose you. If if 23 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: if I were given the choice between the Guru and 24 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: the Viper, I mean I think the Fantasy Viper has 25 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: to be the viper. Uh, well we might as we 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: just going in and ask our guests who are here 27 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 1: with us today. You know them, you love them. Uh 28 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: they are the leaders of the foot Clan, Andy Holloway, 29 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 1: Jason Moore and Mike Right. Uh, welcome to the show. Guys. 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 1: It's a man, I guess have to ask you. I I mean, 31 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: if you had the choice between next gen Stads Guru 32 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: and fantasy Viper, which way you guys go? How is 33 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: that even a question? Viper? Is he going to commit 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: to the mustache only? I mean that's the thing though, 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: is like I think I'd look pretty ridiculous just with 36 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: the s There's one confirm that I don't know. I mean, 37 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: you guys haven't seen me with a beard. But if 38 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't have a beard, like my jaw and everything 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: looked like a small child, Yeah, you do have baby 40 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: soft skin. Thank you. Mike's making his mark on the podcast. Alright, absolutely, 41 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: So okay, so I guess that's it. I mean, we 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: can put it to the to a vote, to the internet. 43 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:16,920 Speaker 1: But I feel like we've I feel like we've spoken. Yeah, 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: the favorite parties have spoken. He is now the fantasy viper. 45 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: So that was I'm glad we got that out of 46 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: the way. What what how's your snake sound out? Back out? 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: I don't practice snake to Oh man, we got a 48 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: full show for you today. Of course, the footballers are here, 49 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: so we will talk to them about a myriad of things. Uh, 50 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, we'll do a fantasy draft of things because 51 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: I think that's just a fun thing to do with 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: the people around here. I've got some news and headlines, 53 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: of course, but that before we do that, as always, 54 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: we'll go behind the glass to talk to our faithful producer, 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: Senior Edward L. Murphy. Esquire Murphy. You got a new 56 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: studio back there, Man, a lot of new toys, but 57 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: they're like half broken toys. Excited yet, but it's the 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: island of misfit toy. Yeah, it's we're slowly again there. 59 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, thanks to everyone that put a 60 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: lot of hard work into this studio for like two 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: and a half three weeks they did. Um, but we 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: will use this studio. We also will use Stage five, 63 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: which we used a little bit ago, which looked really 64 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: really nice. So we'll do a little bit of both. 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: You know, we're gonna have two shows coming up soon 66 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: when the season started, so it should be fun. And 67 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: I got a text from my dad last week and 68 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: he was like, I saw some of the videos you 69 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: guys shot from the new step, the new studio. He's like, 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: it looks great. I'm like, well, don't get used to it. Yeah, yeah, 71 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean we will use it. It doesn't it's a 72 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: lot of moving parts to get there, but you guys 73 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: did look really really good in there. The sets just awesome. 74 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: Not that this one's bad. I think I'm just used 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: to it for three plus years being here. But the 76 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: new one downstairs looks really really nice. Yeah, so I'm 77 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: looking forward to it to using it. Um. So you 78 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: guys started this thing, right, I mean, just kind of 79 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys trying to figure out do something new. 80 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Did you ever imagine, I mean, the way the foot 81 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Clan has grown the whole community, that you ever think 82 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: it was gonna be like this? Not really not like this. 83 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just crazy how fantasy has grown own 84 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: all the technology around fantasy, all the exposure, the growth 85 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: of the NFL. Uh, you know, Jason, So, Mike and 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: I started the thing literally doing a podcast for our league. 87 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't for anybody else. We just got on was amazing. Yeah, 88 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: it was eleven listeners bus plus us and then uh, 89 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: you know, we we started doing that and we just 90 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: it is for the community of the league. You know. 91 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: You get in these leagues with people that you love, 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: you love making fun of them, you love lording your 93 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: victories over them. You love making fun of stupid trades. 94 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: That's all we did. And Jason comes along. He's like, guys, 95 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: this is just too fun. You gotta do this for 96 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: the public. And then you know, we brought him along too, 97 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: and and and then and then it was all you 98 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: I don't you know, I don't want to say it, 99 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: but you said it. But he was, you know, Jason, 100 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: to his credit, he was the one that said, you know, 101 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: this could be really big And I'm like, yeah, but 102 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: big and fantasy, I mean, fantasy, that's a niche. What 103 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: can happen? I mean, how can I you know, make 104 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: a living doing this, get to talk about something you 105 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: love doing, and and uh, here we are somehow I 106 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't know well. And it's expanded 107 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: now because you guys have expanded to the Spitballers podcast, 108 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: which goes just beyond fantasy and just more of a 109 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: comedy kind of podcast. I mean, what is next for 110 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: the foot Clan Empire now? Not baseball? I'll tell you 111 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: we got to understand conversation about that before the show. 112 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: I did not really ever spoken something truer that's really true. 113 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean people ask all the time, are you gonna 114 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: be you know, do other sports do fantasy balls? Like? 115 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: The problem is baseball is terrible. Um, that's we're gonna 116 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: basket wave, sir, thank you. The real problem is a 117 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: season long baseball just takes way. To me, it is 118 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: a few more games where you are right, just like 119 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: just slightly more, slightly more. Yeah, you know before the 120 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: show when I when I went down to the lobby 121 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: and you guys are standing there and I got you. 122 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm wearing a Roado Wear funk Master Flex Spot T shirt, 123 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,119 Speaker 1: and Andy admitted that he almost wore the SAP short. 124 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: It would have been super super awkward, but it did 125 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: make me. I did have a fashion question and that 126 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: was you your sp suit, which which took off on 127 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: the Twitter verse. Where where did you get that? And 128 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: might I ask? Why? Where? And why? So the whole 129 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: invite to the was pretty last minute. And this might 130 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: shock you and some of the listeners, if especially if 131 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: you know me. I don't own a suit. So I 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: was looking, I'm like, what do I go? Just do 133 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: I go spend up and buy a suit that I 134 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: can wear now and wear it later? And then I 135 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: found something on Amazon for hundred dollars that had same 136 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: day shipping, so I got that bad boy. It was 137 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: a pink suit and look it was I knew it 138 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: was gonna be hot, so short sleeves and shorts. It 139 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: just made sense. And it turned into this thing where 140 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I'm I did uh the media red carpet, and now 141 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: they're pulling me on like, okay, before we talk, who 142 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: are you wearing same day shipping Amazon? And people could 143 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: not handle the fact that I that I bought a 144 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: suit off of Amazon. Oh my god, it's amazing, Look 145 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: I would be I can't even say that it's out 146 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: of line because the history of the SPS we have 147 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Brian Wilson when he was still a thing with the 148 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: San Francisco Giants, wearing like an actual body suit to 149 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: the sp So I feel like a pink short set suit. 150 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: It's part for the course. I looked. I took a 151 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: queue from Beckham and if you saw, Beckham was also 152 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: in a short suit the list this year as well. 153 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: So Magie careful about telling Mike that he's too conservative 154 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: at the I was gonna say, next year, you got 155 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: to go like the Zeke Elliott route, and yeah, man, 156 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: I'll make a note. Oh man, I will say, you're 157 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: one of very few people that actually pull that off. Congratulations. 158 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: I would look so silly. If Andy and I were 159 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: there and we were all in pink suits, we would 160 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: have a hard time getting out of the vehicle to 161 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: do walk the red of it. Yeah, he's gotta hold it, man, 162 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely no, I'm not. I'm not mad about it. Um 163 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: all right, So funny games aside, Let's talk some fantasy football, 164 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: because that's deadly serious and we can never laugh about 165 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: this ever again. So Eddie, let's do some news. We'll 166 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: start in Cincinnati, where a J. Green, at least the 167 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: news around a J. Green seems to be getting worse. Uh. 168 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: There was a mild Twitter panic over the weekend when 169 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: he first went down, and then it's sort of calmed 170 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: when it looked like maybe it was just a sprained ankle. Uh, 171 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: that appears to not be the case. Now I will say, uh, 172 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: when Zach Taylor is coming out and saying we hope 173 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: to have him back for the first half of the season, 174 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 1: that is not encouraging news. So as we kind of 175 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: go around the horn, I will start with you, Jason. 176 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: I mean, what, what are your thoughts your feelings on 177 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: a j Green? Where are we looking at him now 178 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: in drafts? And that's my thoughts and feelings are are 179 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: I think more negative than most. Obviously everyone's feelings right 180 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: now are negative. That nobody wants to draft an injured player. 181 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: But sometimes you see that ADP slip, you want to 182 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: buy the dip. And I remember, we you know, we 183 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: do a show as we exit the season every year 184 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: of stuff we want to remember for next year because 185 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: every year, so when you make the same mistake here 186 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: after year, you regret it. My biggest takeaway from eighteen 187 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: for the draft season was don't buy the injury dip. 188 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, Doug Baldwin was a great value last year, 189 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: except he wasn't at all. He was just really injured. 190 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: And so A J. Green, I could be honest and 191 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: say he's he's pretty much off my board in the 192 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 1: sense that he'll never get to a point where I 193 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: feel confident enough to to draft. I mean, obviously, if 194 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: a J. Green sitting there in the eighth round, sign 195 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: me up. But he's just he's not gonna get there. 196 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: He's a J. Green. So that's where I'm I'm much 197 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: more a os to buying the injury dip having you know, 198 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: if if you don't have an I R slot and 199 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: you've got to take up a bench spot and then 200 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: hope he comes back. And when he comes back and 201 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: the Bengals, was Andy Dalton good enough without Ada Green 202 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: to keep his job? Or is he is Dalton now 203 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: gone and the Bengals are playing for that number one 204 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: pick next year? Yeah? You know, I know, like the 205 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 1: the natural progression has been, I think to run towards 206 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd. Um. I just have this feeling that that 207 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: Boyd is going to be you know, kind of status 208 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: quo in it that somehow it's Joe Mixon that absorbed 209 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: a lot of this name. Am I crazy? Uh? Not necessarily. 210 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: I would expect Joe Mixon his target volume to go up. 211 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: But I've I liked Tyler Boyd. I mean I like 212 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: him more with with a J Green there, and because 213 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 1: I think Boyd is a good wide receiver, but he's not. 214 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: He's not a one and you can see that from 215 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: his contract, the contract that he accepted and he said, yeah, 216 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get paid like the superstars and and 217 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: any but he's a rate too. What we do know 218 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: is his his target volume most certainly will go up, 219 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: but will the scoring opportunities be there like they would 220 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: if when you have an elite wide receiver on the field. 221 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,959 Speaker 1: So I still like Boyd as long as people don't 222 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: they don't radicalize and start moving his a DP way up. 223 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: If he's in the same spot where he was, then 224 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: I'm still very happy to to grab Boyd at that 225 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: right like fifth, fifth round areas sixth round. I'm just 226 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: sort of sad. I've said for years that I felt 227 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: like a J. Green among the top level receivers has 228 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: always been the innocent bystander and Andy Dalton drive by slander, 229 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: right like everybody looks at Andy Dalton are like and 230 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: then somehow like a j. Green catches a few shots 231 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: because of that, and so now he's you know, he's 232 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: sort of gone for us for a while. So I 233 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: don't know, Yeah, I just hope that Joe mix in 234 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: the situation there is last year he couldn't get enough 235 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: scoring opportunities and then you get you know, a healthy Green, 236 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: a healthy boy, and that's my concern to night, and 237 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: so he could be the same kind of like can't 238 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: get past that number ten mark every week or some 239 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 1: offensive line injuries. I was prepared to come into the 240 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: season like really high on the Bengals, but I mean, 241 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: now with their offensive line concerns continuing to fall apart, 242 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: now a J. Green is dealt with this is his 243 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: fourth toe or foot problem in the last six years. Man, 244 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: It's it's really tough to buy in. I mean, we 245 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: could be looking at an offense that's going to trot 246 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: out because John Ross is also injured. Shockuate that that's 247 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: going to trot out like Andy Ericson and Cody Cory 248 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: Cody Core Let's go. I mean, is this the Tyler 249 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: Eiffort resurgence that you've been projecting for decades. The opportunity 250 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: will be there. But again, like who knows if he 251 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: can stay on the field. The Bengals have so many 252 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: question marks. I mean they do. Can we just get 253 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: eight or eight or nine games out of Tyler Eiffort? 254 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: I think that's tough division too. Yeah, he looked good 255 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: last year in the limited targets. I went back and 256 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,599 Speaker 1: watched all of his targets last year. He looked he 257 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: was moving well. It's just ability has never been his problem. 258 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: Availability has always sort of been the issue for him. 259 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: But the problem with effort those he is his calling 260 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 1: card when when he had the big season was the 261 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns we're all talking about, well scoring opportunities going to 262 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: go down. Is he even gonna be able to do 263 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: that if he is available? So I first I was 264 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: I was ready to cape. I was ready to stand 265 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: forget again. I moved that cape. I've taken that off. 266 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: I've replaced it with my Jordan reading. So we got 267 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: that guy like it. But you just like pain, like pain, 268 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: your self inflicted miserable. Yes, is that cape coming like 269 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: icy hot honors? Yeah? Well yes, it's endorsed by Shaquille O'Neal. 270 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: There you go, my mac is always ready to go. 271 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: There you go. Uh. Speaking of injuries, the New York Giants, Uh, 272 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: their wide receiver corps has been decimated, and it doesn't 273 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: get any help because Golden Tate is facing a four 274 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: game suspension uh for the performance enhancing drug policy running 275 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: a foul of it. Uh. We mentioned the injuries that 276 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: they've got, guys, hurt um. You know, we don't know 277 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: what exactly they're gonna do with quarterback, whether it's Daniel 278 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: Jones and Eli Manning Graham. I would imagine that ste 279 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Kwon Barkleys wouldn't getches this year. Yeah, se Kwan Barkley 280 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: has the upside to see like three and set five 281 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: touches this year, which is just insanity. And he's the 282 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: main reason, I mean, all the touch volume is the 283 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: main reason I'm sticking with him at the one oh one. 284 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: But Evan Ingram, guys, yeah, that's the guy this year. Um, 285 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: I have I have been hammering him in the fifth 286 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: and six round of drafts and especially now with Tato 287 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: of the wind up. Corey Coleman just popped his a 288 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: cl I mean, the Giants three receiver tandem in their 289 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: first four weeks is going to be very very thin, 290 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: and I expect Evan Ingram to see all the targets. Yeah, 291 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: I completely agree. We're doing a mock draft the other 292 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: day where we started at the one oh one, we 293 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: drafted Sa Kwan. We came around I think it was 294 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: that four or five turn where it was like, Evan 295 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Ingram is there, the value is worth it. But we 296 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: were a little worried to really go all in on 297 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: these New York giants. And they're great offense with multiple pieces, 298 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: would you be worried about that? I can't do it either. 299 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: I've have had the same problem we have. We'll have 300 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: Barkley at one or two and it's like, oh my god, 301 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can have two giants in 302 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: the same team. So so, so, if you believe in 303 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, you want to hit him in your draft, 304 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: maybe you pivot then off of Sake Kwon with that 305 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: first pick to allow yourself to grab Evan Ingram. Yeah, yeah, 306 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: except I mean, I don't know, it's hard to pivot 307 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: off of stake Kwan is that first pick, And I say, 308 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: this is somebody who has been carrying the banner for 309 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. Is the one dott oh one, mostly because 310 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: I just wanted to argue with people all summer long. 311 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: But just like Mike, yeah, I do it because it's 312 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: what my heart, but I do believe I do believe it. 313 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: But also like I just thought it'd be a boring 314 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: something if we were all like Sae Kwon's number one, 315 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: like let's move on, like that's not fun um so, 316 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: but it is still hard to pivot off of that 317 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: Sa Kwan pick. Yeah. I do think people are starting 318 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: to come around to it though, but I mean with 319 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: Zeke's hold out still kind of lingering, maybe maybe we'll 320 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: get a little more pushed that Barkley is not the 321 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: one oh one right as we get closer to the 322 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: regular season. But still yeah, and we'll talk about a 323 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: little bit, like I do want to kind of get 324 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: into that last little bit of news. Andrew Luck is 325 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: telling us things about his lower legs, his calves, his ankles, 326 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: as achilles. Uh. He was being very quoy about it. Uh. 327 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Eventually it just sort of sounds like if it were 328 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: a regular season game, he would get out there and 329 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: he would try to go. And I feel like we've 330 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: been down this road before with Andrew Luck and I 331 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: just I it's deja vu all over again a lot 332 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: of place. Yeah, I mean it gives you pause, doesn't it. 333 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we were in that that same mock draft 334 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: where we took stake one one oh one, We took 335 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: a couple of running backs, and we were asking the question, well, 336 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: would you go in on t Y Hilton? Is your 337 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver one in this draft? And part of the 338 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: thing that went into my head was what if Luck 339 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: wasn't there for four weeks or five weeks, and then 340 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: do I have enough confidence in Hilton to be my 341 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver one on the team, Because this Luck recovery 342 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: process is sokoy. You know he's here, he's fine. Oh wait, no, 343 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: he moved too too fast in the recovery, which is 344 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: another way of saying setback. In my mind is okay, 345 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: you went out there, you had a setback. Now, you 346 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to tell me that somebody's achilles is okay, 347 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Like I should just assume that about a player. And 348 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: so the concern, there's concern, and you know, he's so 349 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: high in draft boards at quarterback. He's off of mine 350 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: right now. And the timeline is what upsets me is 351 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: the fact that he was dealing with this months ago. 352 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: This is why he missed O T S. And so 353 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: it's like the fact that that it's not recovered. The 354 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: most like reminiscent thing that I can think about for 355 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 1: any player in football happens to be from the same 356 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: player where was like, wait, why is the shoulder not better? Wait? 357 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 1: So you're saying you're not trusting the cultsmation trusting injury information. 358 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: God it burns me too because I I had kind 359 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: of gone big in on on Andrew Luck being the 360 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: QB one this year, But now I have to rethink 361 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: that well, and let me ask the branching question where yeah, 362 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton is the obvious one, but people love 363 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: Marlon Mack. They're taking him in the back of the 364 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: third or the early four. But Marlon Mack for a 365 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: for a Colts offense that is not led by Andrew Luck. 366 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: He we saw he was not utilized in the passing 367 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: game where I think he has the ability to do it, 368 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: but they said, no, that's heinz, that's your role. What 369 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: happens the Marlon Mack if Andrew Luck has gone for 370 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, I mean he becomes kind of 371 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: a jag. I mean, he's just a guy at that point. 372 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: You know, and I and I just wrote a piece 373 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: yesterday it's saying that, you know, you guys are undervalue 374 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: people are undervaluing Marlon Mack. But that was with the 375 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: assumption that Andrew Luck is there and healthy. If he's not, 376 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: then everything about that falls apart. Well, here here's a 377 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: comparison that propped into my head. What if what if 378 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: Brady was out? What do you think of Sony Michelle? 379 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: Does the offense? I mean, how much does that offense 380 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: change what they can do a little bit more? You 381 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: would like him more? No, no, no, I'm saying like 382 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: more than Mac. Like it's it wouldn't be this this 383 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: this blacklisting of Okay, well, Mac is no longer part 384 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: of matching for me. Part of what MA and what 385 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: makes him attractive to me is the scoring opportunities that 386 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 1: I think would be decimated. I mean, maybe Jacoby Burusett 387 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: would set the world on fire, but it it just 388 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: limits the upside of Mac being a guy that could 389 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: be you know, a tin tin plus touchdown players. It 390 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: is bizarre. I mean, Marlon Mack is a converted receiver 391 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: us that they wouldn't use that, they wouldn't use him. 392 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean we're buying him for that red 393 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: zone touchdown outside and yeah, I can't do without Luck. 394 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 1: I cannot do it without Getter Andrew, get better Andrew 395 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: and Colts. Please tell us, like, actually, what's going on? 396 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: He please? There you go. That's pretty much everything you 397 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: need to know, speaking of Marlon Mack, talk some running 398 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: backs because you know, the maybe one of the big 399 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: debates going on Twitter in football, Twitter in general is 400 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: this whole Rby's don't matter thing. I have been a 401 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: vocal Twitter opponent of this. Whatever. I won't get into it. 402 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't really have the intry to fight it. Um, 403 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: but I think we want to talk about running backs 404 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: because they still do have some importance. They still do 405 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: have a place. Look, as long as we're fielding the position, 406 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: as long as we're drafting the fantasy, they are worth 407 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: talking about. So the thing I always like to ask 408 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: my guests when we have them on this show is, um, 409 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: have you ever danced with the devil in the pen? Now? Sorry, 410 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: that's not it. Wait all right, there you go. N 411 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: nine only though, or we're branching out, let's get nuts. No, Um, 412 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 1: the the Todd Gurley situation, right, because that's been one 413 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: of the big talking points all spring, all summer long. 414 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: What do we expect from Todd Gurley? I think we 415 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: can all sort of agree that we're not going to 416 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: actually see much of him until week one hits Um. 417 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: I mean, Jason, as we look at this and and 418 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: you know the Rams are being very coy about it, 419 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: we're not gonna see him the preseason. Where do you 420 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: feel comfortable taking him? I think first round maybe out 421 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: of the question. But are we looking you know, late second, 422 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: are we going to the third? Where are we going late? 423 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: Late second? I'm I'm okay with but I'm not taking 424 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: him in the first. It's one of those stuations where 425 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 1: no matter what they say, you have to look at 426 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: what their transactions have been. What have they done with 427 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: their money. You know, they resigned Malcolm Brown off the 428 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: tender that was offered from the Lions. They use their 429 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: draft capital to go, you know, get a running back 430 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: in the draft that all three of us really like, 431 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: they've already you know, come out and basically said it's 432 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: gonna go from eight volume to now. That's not to 433 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: say that, look, if he gets the same touches and 434 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: the same kind of utilization that Alvin Kamara has. He 435 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: could be every bit as valuable as as Alvin Kamara. 436 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: But what Alvin Kamara does not carry with him is 437 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: three games into the season, after just just dominating, you 438 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: to go, oh no, the knee is swelling up again 439 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: from my already pre existing condition. And when you're drafting 440 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: in the first or second round, you're you're buy necessity, 441 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: not drafting other great players. I think what you have 442 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: to do as a fantasy on with Gurley is is 443 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: be the team that spent the first round pick on 444 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: another running back and then have if you want to 445 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: take him in the second round. At that point, all 446 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: your eggs are not in that basket of girly having 447 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: to produce to be your one. Maybe you just stole 448 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,119 Speaker 1: the one in the second round and you've got this stack. 449 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: But that's the situation I would be in where i'd 450 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: feel more comfortable. Comfort is not kind of associated with 451 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: girl right now, but that would be as close as 452 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: i'd get. And I've done that in a lot of drafts, 453 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: mock drafts and regular drafts. Right there are multiple that started, 454 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, maybe McCaffrey or Camara and come back around 455 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: in and gotten tied Gurling. I'm like, I feel great 456 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: about this with tell me Girley is my RB two. 457 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: I can't be mad about that at all. Um. Any 458 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: fear of Darrell Henderson, Mike maybe jumping in there and 459 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 1: eating some of this up, Yeah, there's there's certainly fear 460 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: of him and and Brown. I mean, you can't. You 461 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: can't overlook the fact that that Brown was gonna be 462 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: a who's gonna be a lion? Is that right? He's 463 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: like the front Linons offered him a contract and the 464 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: Ramp said, no, you're far too important. We're gonna make 465 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: sure that we have you on this team. So you 466 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: Brown is used to at least a little bit. He 467 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: poised to disappoint to Henderson and the girly drafter just 468 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: by the you know, opportunities that he's going to get 469 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: has even drafted by anyone, and I have not seen 470 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: it at all. I'm taking him late in draft like 471 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: late bestball leagues. Just because you mentioned I mean the 472 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: Rams re signed him on a second round tender. I 473 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: mean that's a huge, huge tender for a player that 474 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 1: I don't think any of us expected them to spend 475 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: that much on I'm way more concerned about Drell Henderson 476 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: than you guys. He's a sick Oh, he's great. He's 477 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 1: gonna come in and I think really hopefully pushed for 478 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: a role on passing downs very very quickly. And if 479 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: he proves to be the explosive play America here that 480 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: we saw in colin Memphis, it's gonna be really hard 481 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: for Sean McVeigh to take him off the field. I mean, 482 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: the Rams run outside zone more than any team in 483 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: the NFL. Darrell Henderson averaged ten points seven yards per 484 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: carry on outside zone runs last year in college. So 485 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: on the on the one hand, I hear you. On 486 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: the other hand, like I felt that way about John Kelly, 487 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: and you know what, Like I felt that way about 488 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: John Kelly and he kind of got buried. I like 489 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: John Kelly two, but Darrell Henderson is so much better 490 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: of a prospect. Kelly would turn into a sixth round pick. 491 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you're playing with house money in Los Angeles too. 492 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: At that offense when you're running back C J. Anderson 493 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: walked in and looked like, you know, a resurgent player. 494 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about this all the time, Jason. 495 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: It's just you're not facing the same kind of defense 496 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 1: is when you've got those three guys on the outside 497 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: that are running around and threatening downfield real quick too. 498 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams, this has been so underreported because 499 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: the Girly Girly news is just kind of dominated the headlines. 500 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: But the Rams interior offensive line right now, they're going 501 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: to be They're replacing their left guard and center, both 502 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: of their interior offensive line, and have like two or 503 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: three games started between them. That's just another layer of 504 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: I think risk with Girly taking him in the second round, 505 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: just because the Rams offensive line might not be as 506 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: effective as it once and you have to have efficient 507 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: Girly right and now Darrell Henderson's vying for eight to 508 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: twelve touches per game, Malcolm Brown is gonna mix in. 509 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not a situation. I'm really finding 510 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: myself take too much of Girly in the second round. 511 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: But he does have that league league winning appeal because 512 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: the Ram's offense is just so sick. I mean it 513 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: it is, um yeah, I just what happens. By the way, 514 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know what happens for running backs 515 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: if quarterbacks fall apart. What happens if you know what 516 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: we saw from Jared Goff in the back half of 517 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: the season, is is life now? If you know, if 518 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 1: if teams have sort of figured out Jared Goff in 519 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: that passing game, I mean that that there was a 520 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: big monkey ranch in the middle of everything's cross health. 521 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cup is the differentiator in that offense, 522 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: and you just gotta I mean, every report that we've 523 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: seen about his restructured a c L has been very positive. 524 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he seems legitimately at his schedule, and for 525 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: I I have to support my man Jared Goff. He's like, 526 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: he's my favorite late round quarterback right now. If you 527 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: if you look at the last five weeks, when it 528 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: when it when he did fall apart. Two of those 529 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: weeks he didn't even play the full game and he 530 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: was playing Detroit with the eight fewest passing yards allowed, 531 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: Chicago the seventh fewest. The Philadelphia game put up three 532 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: thirty nine yards, just didn't have a touchdown. And then Arizona, 533 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: who was great against the past in San Francisco. Like, 534 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: I think it was just a weird conglomeration of playing 535 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: top end passing defenses and the fact that they two 536 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: games didn't even finish the whole. They start the season 537 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: Panthers Saints Browns. So to your point of the end 538 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: of the season, if golf doesn't have the confidence because 539 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: of how the season ended and then start slow, do 540 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: you see like a disruption? Do you see people trying 541 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: to buy low on RAMS players if they have a 542 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: tough start. I think that'll be interesting to the confidence 543 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: of golf going into the new season. Yeah, I think 544 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: that that'll be one to watch. Um. Battle of the 545 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: hold out running backs Melvin Gordon Ezekiel Elliott both sort 546 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: of in different situations. I mean ones in Cabo right now, 547 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: which I'm not mad at that. I wouldn't mind being 548 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Incabo right now either. Um. First, I Mike with with 549 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: Alfred Morris coming to the Cowboys signing, you know, they're 550 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: conflicting reports, Like some people say that maybe this is 551 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: close of the people I say, that's not close. Are 552 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: are we starting to worry about Zeke at this point? 553 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm not worried from the fact that I'm hoping that 554 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: Zeke has wise counsel around him to remind him that 555 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: there is a date that is approaching quickly that you 556 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: have to show up or you're gonna mess up your 557 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: entire contract situation. He doesn't have the same leverage that 558 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon does with with the potential two years that 559 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 1: the Cowboys just owned his rights, and that's not even 560 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: counting in the franchise tag. So Gordon's I'm far more 561 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: concerned about. I think Zeke will, We'll be back. But 562 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: what's at least someone nice. Theoretically, Zeke should not be 563 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: getting hurt while he's in Cabo, so maybe he's we 564 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the training camp report ooh 565 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: crab Zeke, So that that that's somewhat nice. But I 566 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: also at the same time, I want him getting his 567 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: body ready for contact, and I don't want the early 568 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 1: hamstring injury from a player who was not in camp. 569 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: Are you suggesting that Cabo was not conducive to one 570 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: getting their body ready for But there's there are things 571 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: that he's probably doing in co sanctioned by the team. 572 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that Jerry Jones is kind of 573 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: done in about face here. Yeah, that is interesting if 574 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: you look back at what he said, like in the spring, 575 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, we're gonna be giving Zeken new contract. 576 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 1: We'll look at Girlies contract and we'll just go from there. 577 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: And now he's like, yeah, if you don't have to 578 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 1: have a running back to when they probably got the 579 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: email from his agent and it had a different number 580 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: on it, And now he has to come out and 581 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: at least play the part. I wouldn't be surprised if 582 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: he's under contract within a couple of weeks from now. 583 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: But if you're drafting to date Graham, are you pausing 584 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: about Zeke? No, I'm still taking I'm still taking Zeek 585 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: to UM. I'm not too concerned. Mike. It's interesting. So 586 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: you say you're a risky player, Where are you taking 587 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon right now? Because I'm with you, I'm a 588 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: lot more concerned about Gordon and Zeke. I'm risky but 589 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: not stupid. Yeah, I will love like I mean, I'll 590 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: have my take on Melvin Gordon, and I believe he's 591 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: going to miss games and it's could be more of 592 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: in four games. I think that he has dug in. 593 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: I think that the Chargers are very much dug in 594 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: on their stance of we're saying we are we're not 595 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: going to be bullied by a running back, demanding that 596 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: we pay him more money when we have him under 597 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: contract and we're gonna give him five million dollars or 598 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: whatever it is that he is owed. So I think 599 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: that this one goes close to the distance and it 600 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: ends up with Melvin Gordon holding his putting his hands 601 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: on his face and saying, all right, you win. I'll 602 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: be back. I'll play these handful of games. But at 603 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: that point, for fantasy, it's it's too late for all right, 604 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Gordon, he has to have some games played 605 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: this year so his contracts over, he can be eligible 606 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: to the common Understrickwise, he's in the same boat next year, right, 607 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: I mean, look, and the charge is it's not the 608 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: exact same apple to apples. But it was the Chargers 609 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: that tried to play this game with Vincent Jackson many 610 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: years ago, and then Jackson said, Okay, half the season 611 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: is done. Here I am now, so I don't get 612 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: my contract problems. And financially, I mean, obviously the Chargers 613 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: and all NFL teams have the money to pay to 614 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: their players. But the issue here is that you know 615 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: of that extra revenue that the teams get themselves from 616 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: their home games and they're all of that. They're not 617 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: selling out stadium. It's hard to say, let me pay 618 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: a running back at the highest level while our franchise 619 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have the stadium yet and we don't have that 620 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: extra revenue to really make that makes sense. And historically 621 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers have not been you know, they're they're frugal. Well, 622 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: we'll call them frugal. So I think it's just a 623 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: bad situation where I agree with Mike. I think I 624 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: expect missed games. I'm going to correct you on one 625 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: thing that the Chargers are selling out the stub Hub Center. 626 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: It's just with other teams. Yes, okay, you know, like 627 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: the Eagles came to town a couple of years ago 628 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: and Eagles fans dominant. I remember Week one they reported 629 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: the sellout and then you saw the photos where it's like, okay, 630 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: sure you sold this out. As you know, there's a 631 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 1: lot of seats out. It's just a later ivan crowd, 632 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. Yeah, I will say I thought Dave 633 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: Matthews and that venue, it's great for musings in they 634 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: should just put him in the stands on the telecast. 635 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: I will say it's pretty far. I mean, if you're 636 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 1: driving from l A. It does take some time to 637 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: get down. It's a little bit. I mean, you have 638 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: the four intersection of the four oh five and the 639 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: ones hin' on the California. It's not great, but you 640 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: know the good The good part about that is if 641 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you're lucky and you drive by at the right time, 642 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: you'll see the good Year blimp just parked on the ground. 643 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: There there it is. Uh, you know, plenty of upsides. Uh, Jason, 644 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: Have we forgiven Levan Bell? I know he put out 645 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: his apology the other day. Have we forgiven him? Or 646 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: I've forgiven him? I have a harder time for giving 647 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: Adam Gaze. So there's there's some crossover there. Um yeah, 648 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean you know even last year what love Bell 649 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: was the on average the second pick, and then um, 650 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: you did not get him. So we we just talked 651 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: about this on another show. I'm I am not a 652 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: huge believer in Levan Bell as an early first round pick. 653 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: You've got him going from one of the best offensive 654 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: lines in football with his running style where he's patient 655 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: with great vision, he just waits for the holes to 656 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: open up and glides through him. The problem is in 657 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: New York these holes might open up two defenders coming 658 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: right through out of the way right or the holes 659 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: don't open in the pocket collapses. So I'm just worried 660 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: a little bit about the running style. Obviously, his pass 661 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: catching can supersede all of that if he's used in 662 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: that way. But since we haven't seen it in this system, 663 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm weirdy, Like like Mike said, I'm risk averse, especially 664 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: in the first few rounds. I haven't seen it in 665 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: that system. So hard time do we have And I'm 666 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: asking this for the first time right here? Do we 667 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: have a weird double standard with leve bell expectations in 668 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: New York compared to see Kwon Barkley and the offense? 669 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: And you know, for the other New York team where 670 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: we know the Giants are gonna likely struggle on offense, 671 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: we still don't care because the volumes there. Is it 672 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: a weird double standard? I mean, leave Bell was the 673 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: best fantasy running back in the game, catches passes better 674 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: than anybody in foot ball on the New York team 675 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: that I think is on the way up with Sam Donald, 676 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: I would I just wonder about that because we're burned, right, 677 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: We're burned by the bad leve season, and can out 678 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: athlete people, even at the NFL, NFL where that's Lean 679 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: Bell is fantastic, but you're you wouldn't say that he's 680 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: the super metrics star. That's say Kwan Barkley is. He's 681 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: a he's a tactician. He beats you with finesse, and 682 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: and so three touches for sake one means something different 683 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: than three hundred touches in their current environments. It does 684 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: to me. I would also say, and this is maybe 685 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,959 Speaker 1: just me being emotional, but Adam Gays has a lot 686 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: to do with this for me in the sense that, 687 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, if you believe the reports, he didn't seem 688 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: to want Levian Bell around, right, And this is the 689 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: guy who, at least from the surface, seems like he 690 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: can be vindictive when it comes to players he doesn't want. 691 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: Asked j G. I asked Kenyan, like ask these guys 692 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: that he's had who are talented players who couldn't seem 693 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: to get the football. And so if Adam is in 694 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: a situation where he doesn't really like Levion Bell, he 695 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: didn't really want him on the roster, like you know, 696 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 1: what's to say? He doesn't say, you know what I'm 697 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: gonna get this get this bive ball, you know, twelve 698 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: to fifteen times per game, and he's just not getting 699 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: the kind of volume we expect him to get. We 700 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: have a nickname for Adam gates On. It's not it's 701 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: not PC oh, it's it's a censored thing. We call 702 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: him Mr b Hole okay, okay, for his utilization. It 703 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: stands for button. There's been a lot of disappointment obviously 704 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: with why isn't Kenyan Dre getting Mark Cares? You know, 705 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: the more effective players not always see in the field. 706 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: The vindictiveness you talked about, so the grudges though there's 707 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: two grudges in play. That's what I'm saying. We could 708 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: have our blinders on the love belt. I'd be curious, Graham, 709 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: what do you think about his volume there in New York? 710 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,919 Speaker 1: Because I people are afraid. Yeah, I think. I think 711 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: maybe only Barkley has a higher touch expectation if you 712 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: give him sixteen games. That's what I'm getting to with 713 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: a problem. The problem, guys is when Levy on Bell 714 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: is on the board at like one nine, do I 715 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: take him or Julio Jones, right, Odell Beckham? Do I 716 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: take Michael Thomas And most of those times, I'm leaning 717 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: towards the receiver because I think all three of those 718 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: guys can become the receiver one. And we do have 719 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: all the concerns we just listed off about Bell. I 720 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,800 Speaker 1: was hoping you had none of those concerns changed my 721 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: whole thought. I mean, it's just I've been you know, 722 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: when I'm in the back half of that first round. 723 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,959 Speaker 1: It's just those receivers are so so hot. I haven't 724 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: drafted lev in any mouth because I'm staring those guys 725 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: down to you talk about that. I mean, part of 726 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: the reason he sat out a full season, it's because 727 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: he made the case. He's like, I'm essentially a number 728 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: one receiver and a number one running back rolled into one. Um. 729 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean, who say he can't challenge that. I know 730 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: we love Robby Anderson and I know you people love 731 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 1: Jamison Crowder, but like Bell can be as good as 732 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: receivers a Bell. If I was a quarterback, that's what 733 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: I would. I'm excited to see what Donald and Bell 734 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: can do because Donald desperately desperately needed somebody that he 735 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: could rely on either in early downs, check down situations, 736 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: third downs last year, and he did not have that guy. Yeah, yeah, Um, 737 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 1: some of the running backs just kind of outside. I 738 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: guess maybe the third tier or however you want to 739 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: you want to set them apart. But uh, Darren Henry, 740 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: Marlon Mack, carry On, Johnson, Leonard Fournett. I know we 741 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: talked a little bit about Mac, just kind of throwing 742 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: this out to the room. Any one of those four 743 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: guys do anything more for you than you know, there's 744 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: only one guy that can catch the football. Basis there 745 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: see the floor to Jason Yeah, look he's wearing his 746 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: Lyon blue today. I am. I am a year and 747 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: a half in on my carry On Johnson, truth Orville. 748 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: There's no bigger believer in his talent than than myself. 749 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: I I believe that because he is, to me one 750 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: of the best actual running backs in the league. Uh. 751 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: He can get to he can run up and get 752 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: the hard yards inside, he can get to the edge 753 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: quicker than defenders. He's a great receiver. He has everything 754 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: in his arsenal. The issue has always been volume. Is 755 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: he gonna get it? Obviously they want to have a 756 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: running back by commit d but the fact that they 757 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: cut THEO Rittic is not just what the opportunity that 758 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: opens up for carry On Johnson, but the ability that 759 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,479 Speaker 1: they believe they can cut theo. Rittic says, they see 760 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: what everyone else sees, and you know in the games 761 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: that carry On Johnson, you know, you gotta throw out 762 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 1: those first two weeks where he was a clear backup 763 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: wasn't utilized much like Garrett Blunt was the guy. They 764 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: made that transition in week three and before he got 765 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: injured in Week eleven. Through that stretch, he was on 766 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: average like the running back fourteen. And that was for 767 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 1: a bad, bad, bad, bad bad You know, if if 768 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,720 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's injury that came out in the off season 769 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: was legit and that you know, they've kind of retooled. 770 00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: The offensive line is a little bit more improved, and 771 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: now they're going to be using far more efficient, you know, 772 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: people at the running back position. I just think I 773 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: think it's impossible, and we've talked about this on the show. 774 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 1: I think it's impossible that carry On Johnson finishes below 775 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: the running back fifteen. I don't see a world, barring injury, 776 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: where that happens. And I think his upside is to 777 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: be a hyper efficient I mean, it's five point four 778 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 1: yards and carry last year you can, I know I shall. 779 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: The thing is is is you say it's impossible for 780 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: him to be in that range. I think it's gonna 781 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: be a challenge for him to be in the top ten. 782 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 1: The last two years, you know, you've had two guys 783 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: and then three or three guys and then two guys 784 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: that were on losing teams at the running back position 785 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: finished in the top ten in Fantasy. They were twenty 786 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: four and points per game last year. My challenge is 787 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: scoring opportunities for carry on Johnson on this roster. So 788 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a challenge for him. I'm 789 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: at sixteen. You said he finished fourteen in that stretch, 790 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: you got the injury concerns. I don't want to reign 791 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 1: on your parade whatsoever. I really don't. Can't because the 792 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: town literally inside. But like last year, right, like David 793 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: David Johnson last year finished at RB ten and it 794 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: was a it was a terrible year. And you say, 795 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: oh man, he salvaged it. Two fifty eight carries, fifty receptions. 796 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: I don't think carry on his those kind of numbers, 797 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,240 Speaker 1: and that got David Johnson to tend That's my belief 798 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: and efficiency always changes with volume. It just does fantasy points. 799 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: Everyone here knows that so much more valuable with the 800 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: past than with a Russian attempt. Matthew Stafford has always 801 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: hyper target of the running back. That's why THEO ridd 802 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: has been valuable. He's not going to stop throwing to 803 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: a running back now that he has a better one. 804 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, I think you're talking about 805 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: carry On as a guy that could be up in 806 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: the eighty five plus target range, and and that's not 807 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: to guarantee it, but if something like that happens, now 808 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: you're talking huge upside and you're not talking like, oh, 809 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: he's the running back thirteen. You're talking about he's the 810 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: top five guy. Last year, the couple of games and 811 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: handful of games that theoretic was out and carry On 812 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: was in, Carryon went from three and a half targets 813 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,360 Speaker 1: a game all the way up to five and a 814 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: half targets a game. And that was that's still factoring 815 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: in carry On working his way to becoming the one 816 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 1: A of the offense. I'm I've lean far more on 817 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: Jason side. I think carry is gonna be great. I 818 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: would have been on Andy's side if we talked about 819 00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 1: this two weeks ago, but I've flipped after the theoretic 820 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 1: cut after the big theoretic news man like a welcome 821 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: and they're a game. In their eight games played together 822 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: last year, Riddick out targeted Johnson forty five. I mean, 823 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: that's humongous. The Lions running backs last year combined to 824 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,919 Speaker 1: have combined to put up the second most receptions among 825 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: all teams last year. If if we get like you 826 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 1: mentioned Stafford has always had that pass catching running back, 827 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,920 Speaker 1: we get Johnson on the field on like seventy of 828 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: the Lions passing snaps, He's gonna go nuts this year. 829 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,959 Speaker 1: So I was redoing my ranks based on the news 830 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: and I moved him up to thirteen, right above DeVonta Freeman. Um, 831 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,240 Speaker 1: how do you guys feel like about carry On? Relative 832 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: to Nick Chobb, Dalvin Cook, DeVonta Freeman, Marlon Mack two, 833 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: we can throw them in their Aaron Jones. That whole 834 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: tier seems like that there's just so much, Um, I 835 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: guess there's just no consensus in that range. How do 836 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: you guys have that's my favorite of that here mine 837 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: as well. Cook would be the only guy I have 838 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,479 Speaker 1: above carry On? Out of those players you mentioned. Yeah, 839 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's an interesting It's an interesting 840 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: thing because there's right now in PPR leagues, we we 841 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,759 Speaker 1: want to target this pass catching running backs, but we're 842 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: still seeing Derrick Henry, still seeing Marlon mack Leonard for NET, 843 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: Guys that aren't necessarily locked into passing down roles still 844 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: getting put up into that tier. Um. I do think 845 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: it's an interesting kind of tear break that we have 846 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: with all these running backs right now. Yeah, even even 847 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: in four Net and and and Derrick Henry is a 848 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: couple of them too. Like I know, I took for 849 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: net And a lot of early drafts because he just 850 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: kind of fell in my lap, you know, late third round, 851 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: early fourth round. But I think the more I think 852 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: about this, you know, you talk about your ringing backs 853 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 1: on bad teams, and the Jaguars still project to not 854 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: be a great team this year and I'm starting to 855 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,239 Speaker 1: come a tough division. I think that's the concern. Like 856 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: for the bound the counter bounce back case for the Jags, 857 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: all has to do it. What I think is a 858 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,760 Speaker 1: great Houston team, a great Colts team. I think Tennessee 859 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: is underrated. They they've made upgrades on both sides of 860 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: the ball. So it's you started looking in the vision 861 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,360 Speaker 1: and you go wout at the Jags really gonna bounce 862 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,880 Speaker 1: back just because he had Nick Foles. Fantasy owners need 863 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: to look at Leonard for Nett freshly, not through the 864 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: lens of two or three years ago, his expectations, and 865 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: then you're probably okay with him. I want to get 866 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,879 Speaker 1: your guys take on them hiring John D. Filippo as 867 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: the o C for for the Jaguars, who the last 868 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: couple of years it's been entrenched in the DNA. We're 869 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,959 Speaker 1: we're a tough man, and we we run. We're gonna 870 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: run better than you. We're gonna play defense. And then 871 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,279 Speaker 1: you hire as your offensive coordinator a man who was 872 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: just fired because he called too many passing plays and 873 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 1: that like that's been his m O and his two 874 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: stops as an o C of of over six hundred 875 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: passing attempts. Like how does how does that jive with 876 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: what we know the Jaguars have been over the last 877 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: couple of years. I don't. I don't necessarily know that 878 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: it does, but I mean, I think if you look 879 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,880 Speaker 1: at the Jaguars moves in totality. They're all sort of 880 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: confusing in that way because they went out and they 881 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: broke the bank to bring in Folds. I felt like 882 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles was no longer the answer, which you know, 883 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 1: I think we can sort of agree he pops the question. 884 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: I mean they went to the a f C Championship 885 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,160 Speaker 1: in spite of him, not because of him. Right, So 886 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: they bring in Nick Foles to to try and shore 887 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: up the quarterback position. They bring it, as you mentioned, 888 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: Don John d Philippo, but they still are holding to 889 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: this idea that they want to be a run first 890 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: team and they still want to leave this thing through 891 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: Leonard four Nets. So it doesn't make sense. I mean, 892 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: I guess that's a long way of me saying that, Yeah, 893 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: I don't I don't get it. I will say too, 894 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: if they do pass more, it might be a good 895 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: thing for for Net because it will be less contact 896 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: in between the tackles and more targets for him. The 897 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 1: running backs in this depths right behind them because less 898 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: contact mean less injuries. For that's that's you're keeping the 899 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 1: fingers crossed there. Yeah, but if that's the case, then 900 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: why do you let a guy like t J. Yelden 901 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,120 Speaker 1: go because you can bring outfred blue in man. Come on, 902 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: My bad, My bad, totally forgot about that. Uh yeah, 903 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: so there. Yeah, it's a little bit of running back talk. 904 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure they'll be plenty more before we get to 905 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,919 Speaker 1: the start of September. They matter, people, running backs matter, 906 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 1: um in the show with I like doing this thing 907 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: every now and then, the fantasy draft of things where 908 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: we just go and we go around Robin and we draft, uh, 909 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, we draft things. Uh. So this week's topic, 910 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,400 Speaker 1: Disney has set a record for global box off the 911 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: sales for a single studio. They have hit seven point 912 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: six seven billion dollars for this year. It's not even 913 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: officially August yet, and they still have a few more 914 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: movies coming out. The Lion King just went over a billion, 915 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,280 Speaker 1: Toy Story four is closing in on one billion dollars. 916 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: So I felt like this was a chance to say, 917 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: let's draft, which are the best Disney movies of all time? Now, 918 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: a couple of stipulations. I included all the Pixar films, 919 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: so you know, you get the toy stories, the cars, 920 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: whatever up that sort of thing. Uh, excluding any of 921 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,000 Speaker 1: the Marvel movies or the Star Wars movies because while 922 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: they are technically Disney properties, now nobody, nobody considers them 923 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 1: Disney movie. I'm going out to see that new Disney movie, 924 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: right actually, so I feel like those movies don't count. 925 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: But the Pixar movies definitely within the family, those definitely count. So, uh, 926 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,239 Speaker 1: I figured, you know, one of the one of our 927 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: guests should be the first draft picks. So because you're 928 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: on the because you guys are on the ends, I 929 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, Adjason and Andy, you guys should 930 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,880 Speaker 1: like rock paper scissors. I don't ever win that against him, 931 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: so you can just take that first, right, So there 932 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,120 Speaker 1: you go. I think he's he's conceded to you. Now 933 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm so happy because there's a here. Okay, it's Toy Story. 934 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: Toy Story is it created, picks are created the whole sure. 935 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean that's like, I mean, Toy Story four just 936 00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: came out a few months ago. Argument against them, I 937 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: was enforcing. I was reinforcing it. It's like at the table. 938 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 1: For the last years, my kids will not watch non 939 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: you know, three D computer animated cartoons, like when they 940 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, you put on a cartoon, it's just like flat. 941 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 1: It's like, what is this old? Uh you know so 942 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: star and that whole genre was created by Toy Story. 943 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with Toy Story the clear one 944 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: on one. Wow. Okay, uh well I will follow that 945 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: up and I'm gonna go with the Lion King. I 946 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: really shouldn't have given away the first The good news 947 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: is we'll do a snake draft so you can go 948 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: back to get back to back. Yeah, we'll go. We'll 949 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: go back to back. So I'm gonna Lion King because 950 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you want to talk about it. As 951 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: much as Toy Story as iconic, the Lion King equally iconic, 952 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: to the point that they made uh A, what I 953 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,240 Speaker 1: understand to be a fairly flat and sort of mediocre 954 00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,160 Speaker 1: I like, c g I remake. I haven't seen it. 955 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: They'll just bounce back to the like animated version, like 956 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: in twenty more years and then just keep going back 957 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: and forth. Like I just feel like, I feel like 958 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: this new version of the Lion King is sort of 959 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: like their new coke, right, and they'll bring back They'll 960 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: bring back the animated version. Everybody's like, oh, this is great, 961 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 1: and you know, then they'll make another billion dollars off 962 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,399 Speaker 1: that but anyway, that's that's that's one dotto to Mike. 963 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: It's upsetting. I was hoping the Lion King would slip 964 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,120 Speaker 1: to me, So I will take the backup option in 965 00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: the hand animated. I'm gonna take a Laddin. Yeah. Yeah, um, 966 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: that makes I guess I'll go have to go down. Yeah, 967 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920 Speaker 1: those are the stories that I wanted. Yeah, so that's great. 968 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: I'll just go with with an old favorite and say 969 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast. Okay, I mean it's classic, great. Great. 970 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 1: That means I'm gonna have to slide into like, uh 971 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: some of the newer you get back to back here 972 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: and so get to mediocre picks. Uh, I'll you know, 973 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 1: I haven't seen more of a Disney movie. You know, 974 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: I've got three kids. Then I've seen a Frozen in 975 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: the last so Frozen is gonna be uh my my 976 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: first rounder. And then on the turn, this is where 977 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: it gets a little more complex. But I guess I'll go, uh, 978 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,920 Speaker 1: I'll go Little Murmaid. That was the one I was 979 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,439 Speaker 1: hoping got back. You know, five guys sitting at the table. 980 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: A little Murder made is huge, the one we all 981 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: run to. But it's so well, you remember I King Triton. 982 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,120 Speaker 1: That's where it's at. How many rounds are we going? 983 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,400 Speaker 1: I'll go three rounds, three rounds. I will just go 984 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: with another classic here in Dumbo. I mean right, all right, 985 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean I watched that movie probably like fifteen plus times. Alright, 986 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: so yeah, right, all right, all right, Mike, back to you. 987 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: All Right. I know I am not going to win 988 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: it if we put this up to any polls, but 989 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: I will draft with my heart. I know it's coming. 990 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: So I will take a Goofy movie, which is actually 991 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 1: the best an movie from from the Disney studio, with 992 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: the best Disney soundtrack as well. Alright, uh well, if 993 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: we're voting with I was helping you go Aladdin too. 994 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 1: But whatever, trust me, I've seen Return of far I mean, 995 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,320 Speaker 1: if we are, if we are voting with our hearts, 996 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: then I got joined me. I gotta dig back way 997 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,800 Speaker 1: into the into the vaults and go with the animated 998 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 1: jungle Book, all right, which the music is great. I 999 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: think the animation is great. It's just has that, you know. 1000 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: I've got the sixties of late fifties whenever it was, um, 1001 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: it's always been a favorite of mine. A jungle book. Yeah, 1002 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 1: that's that's good. So now I've got back to back 1003 00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,440 Speaker 1: to finish it out. So I know the two I 1004 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 1: should take, but those aren't going to be the two 1005 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: I take. I you know you're gonna pander bear. No, 1006 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the eyes. I'm gonna do the opposite 1007 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: of my usual pander bear. I could win the draft 1008 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,479 Speaker 1: here with two clear picks that I want. I want 1009 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: everyone to wear. I'm gonna take Monsters Inc. Because I 1010 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: love Monsters Inc. It's great, And I'm going to not 1011 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,920 Speaker 1: take the other Pixar movie that I'm sure one of 1012 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,800 Speaker 1: you might take. Instead, I'm going with my heart, with 1013 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: my youth, my musical theater background, and I'm going News 1014 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:54,080 Speaker 1: that's a great Christian rate. That's probably the best movies 1015 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: ever been made. Wow, your pick is one of the 1016 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,120 Speaker 1: best ever. Now I understand. Man, Uh well, this leaves 1017 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: me a lot of different directions that I can go 1018 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: right now. Um, but I feel like you put this 1019 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: in the air, Jason by saying you're not gonna take 1020 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: the other Pixar air So up, Yeah, that's because interesting. 1021 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, look, man, if you want a master class 1022 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,680 Speaker 1: and how to make people crying but without ever speaking 1023 00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: a word, in a film. It's the opening of up. 1024 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: So you like crying, crying, make some movie. I mean, look, man, 1025 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: every Pixar movies about crying without crying. We're not too proud. 1026 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,520 Speaker 1: I can't even think about Inside Out right. We're not 1027 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 1: gonna do it. So but I'm still gonna go with 1028 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: my heart. And the movie I have seen as much 1029 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: as a goofy movie is The Emperor's New Groove, which 1030 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: is a lot of people don't even know what exists. 1031 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: I didn't think David Spade would make this. H No, 1032 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,959 Speaker 1: Dave de Spade, shout out, good friend of the show. 1033 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,840 Speaker 1: I am gonna I'm gonna make my cry. And I 1034 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: was going to take Inside Out. I said, don't talk 1035 00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: about it. I just loved the fresh take of all 1036 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,400 Speaker 1: the character. It's amazing, very it was actually good movie. Yes, alright, alright, 1037 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: let you get to you get to finish this out right. 1038 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:21,360 Speaker 1: It's up to out Yeah all right, yeah you were 1039 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: That's what when you alluded to the other Pixar movie, 1040 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: That's what I thought you meant that it's not up. 1041 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: So shout out to rescuers down under, just as a 1042 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 1: little backup, shout out to the Fox Peter Pan. Yeah. Absolutely, 1043 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,960 Speaker 1: the Robin Hood, the Robin Hood with the Fox absolutely 1044 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: Switch by the way, I mean you got blue basically 1045 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 1: in both of the Jook that's back when they was 1046 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 1: just like the same three voice actors and in every movie. Absolutely. 1047 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you know, and I feel you have 1048 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,640 Speaker 1: a strong draft Frozen, Little Little Mermaid and Finding Nemo 1049 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: from maybe given up the first pick one from the spot. 1050 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,640 Speaker 1: I feel like you had a pretty strong draft there. 1051 00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,719 Speaker 1: So I don't know, maybe we try to maybe put 1052 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: this on the interweb, put this up to at this 1053 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:09,040 Speaker 1: point now they take up, guys, I had a lot 1054 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: of fun you guys. Are you guys kind of made 1055 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: the world tour here. I mean you were in wish 1056 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: Eyes and show. You guys are doing show at Largo 1057 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 1: for folks and get sold out. That I'd say for 1058 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 1: folks in La to go see it. But it's sold out. 1059 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 1: You can listen on Monday the Life Show will be 1060 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 1: up there. You go. Um, so you guys are going 1061 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:29,320 Speaker 1: to do uh the folks? Yeah? Um say yeah, we 1062 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: have plenty of friends over Yeah good now, I was 1063 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,719 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. Don't say it out loud, he'll get 1064 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:40,319 Speaker 1: ideas there's more of the California tan. Now absolutely, he's 1065 00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: he's fully California out man, he's you know, he lost weight, 1066 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 1: he's in shape. He's like, he's he's super California. Yeah. 1067 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: Anything below seventy five degrees. And but hey, I appreciate 1068 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,800 Speaker 1: you guys stopping by. Man, it's been fun. Thank you 1069 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 1: for having us. We appreciate it. You guys do awesome do. 1070 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys too as well. So there you 1071 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,120 Speaker 1: know the Fantasy footballers you can find them on that's 1072 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: what your rand, your individual Twitter handles at f hit Man, 1073 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: at Jason FFL. Alright, cool, so go check them out 1074 00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: if you haven't already. If you haven't, I don't really 1075 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 1: know what you guys are doing with your lives, so 1076 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: go figure that out. A quick reminder before we get 1077 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: out of here. Starting next week Monday, August five, we'll 1078 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 1: be going to two shows a week, recording on Mondays 1079 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: and Wednesdays. That means officially that the NFL summer is 1080 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: over because we are really getting back to work, so 1081 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,239 Speaker 1: I look forward to doing that as well. Also a 1082 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: quick note, we were hoping to get to Chargers camp, uh, 1083 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: scheduling issues may have prevented that. We're trying to see 1084 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: if maybe that'll happen. But we've talked about a preseason game, yes, 1085 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: so potentially preseason game. We'll get some figured out. We'll 1086 00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:46,040 Speaker 1: figure something out. It hasn't worked out the way we'd hope, 1087 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,120 Speaker 1: but we're going to try and get something going on 1088 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: with the Chargers as well. So there you go. That's it. 1089 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: We are done. We appreciate you listening as always. You 1090 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: know the drill, tell to friends, to tell to friends, 1091 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 1: rate review and remember the earlier bird gets the worm, 1092 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,440 Speaker 1: but the second mouse gets the cheese. We'll see you 1093 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: next week. Wow w W Coco Cocoa