1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Player's laud broadcasting line from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 4 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: the start. Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny mccraig, and 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: NEWI Scrugs. Ladies and gentlemen, it is a beautiful, beautiful 6 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: morning here in the DFW metro Plex. It's your boy, 7 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Barry Church. That's your average box safety overhead, joined as 8 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: usual by the ultimate survivor, the cook himself. I seen 9 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: you on Instagram cooking it up. It looks pretty good 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: over Danny mccraig in the house as well. Our other counterpart, 11 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: NEWI Scrugs is on assignment big time. He's covering the 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, so you know he's left us hanging there 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: over here in the sw EC studios. But once again, 14 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: this is the Players Lounge, brought to you by Hotels 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: dot Com and Danny. I'm gonna just jump right into 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: it because it's been on my mind. It's been on 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: my mind this these past couple of hours, and it's 18 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: just for what do we see yesterday? And I'm talking 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: about the Pro Bowl here, like when we was growing up. 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, Sean Taylor was playing in their Schmack and punters. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: You had guys given effort, tackling, guys were really trying 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: to go out there and win the MVP of this 23 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: game and show what they really have and give the 24 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: fans what they want. But yesterday, I mean, I've seen 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: walkthroughs more intense than that. I mean, what's your thoughts 26 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,639 Speaker 1: on this? Look? I didn't. Let me tell you something. 27 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: Me turning on the Pro Bowl would have been something 28 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: that you should all be surprised about. One because one 29 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: because you already know you are you are a former player. Okay, 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. If you go out there 31 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: and you get hurt in the Pro Bowl and have 32 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: to miss an extended period of time, you're gonna look 33 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: like a straight up. But you don't be like, man, 34 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: like what was I thinking? Like? What was I thinking? Like? 35 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Why did I go out there? Was it worth it 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: for me to go out there? You're not making your 37 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: full check, right? You out there really to have a 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: good time and celebrate the fact that you played well 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: enough and people respected your game well enough to get 40 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: you voted into there. I'm not going out there to 41 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: get hurt talking about old school and then I've seen 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: the old school dude. They man, you know back in 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: the day when yeah, that's old school dudes usually stuck 44 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: in old school. What they what they not? What they're not. 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: What they're not seeing is these dudes know each other 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: more than those old school dudes knew each other, right, Like, 47 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: dudes are working out together, they taking trips together, They 48 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: on Instagram, I'm back and forth. So a lot of 49 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: these dudes are more than just associalists. This ain't they 50 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: first time meeting each other. Like they know each other. 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're not gonna go out there and what 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 1: are we talking about? They got other stuff to do. 53 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: So should we should should the least switch it up? 54 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: Should they switch it up to like a flag football 55 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: or like, you know, something like that. Feel like it'd 56 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: be a little bit more juice to it if that 57 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: was the case. But I mean, we're seeing guys out there. 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: They was they was catching the ball in the flats, 59 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: doing a little one two and then art let's tag 60 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: them off. Let's just I just I's the point of 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: playing the game. It's bro but the game is just 62 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: it is not a football game, all right, soot they said. 63 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: They said, just they should find a different way to 64 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: market it. It's not a football game. Dudes ain't about 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: to go out there and get tackled. So you can 66 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: be mad that you actidentally hurt. You hurt your potting 67 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: and he supposed to be working out in March like, 68 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: it's just it's just just standing there in the in 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: the moment that it happens, then somebody's gonna be like, 70 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: oh man, that's crazy. Man. But he went out there 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: and played for the pro bo so so he said. 72 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: It's similar to to college kids opting out of the 73 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: out of their ball games when they're not in the 74 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: in the college football playoffs. Absolutely listen, they better be 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: looking them to show it up. There's a lot of 76 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: dudes who were supposed to show up and they're like, nah, 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: I'm good, bro. So would you rather them like do 78 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: that or would you rather them show up and still 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: get the fans a little something to watch or you 80 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: just be a just want everybody to be like a man, 81 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: I ain't doing it. I'm a Pro Bowl guy. I'm 82 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: staying at home. I'm not I'm not going out to 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: Vegas and do all that. All the crazy I'm with 84 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: you on now, because I understand you know, the the NFL, 85 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: they you know, they want to market their brand out there, 86 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: so they want to have the fans enjoy it. They 87 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: don't want the fans go home and say, man, what 88 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: did I waste my money on this? But you know, 89 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: I get it from the player's perspective as well. Like 90 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: you said, you can't what if you go out there 91 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 1: and tearn ACL. I mean, it's so late in the season. 92 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,119 Speaker 1: It's after the season, so you wouldn't be ready again 93 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: until maybe midway through the next season. So I understand 94 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: why the players, you know, take it lax and don't 95 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: really show any effort out there. I understand that case. 96 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: But to me, I'm just like, why why you even 97 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: have the game? You're just making like a flag football 98 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: tournament seven or seven or something like that, you know, 99 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: and that at least have a little bit more excitement 100 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:38,799 Speaker 1: than going out there and playing two head touch fully padded. 101 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: So I think it's an NFL problem. But then you 102 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: also because I got to keep them blowing on because 103 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: I seen you all the old school dudes hate a 104 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: lot of hate. So this year, specifically, dudes that play 105 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: seventeen games all right, some of these dudes got eliminated. 106 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: It didn't even make the playoffs. So they at home 107 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: on the couch chilling with you know what I'm saying, 108 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: and then you're like, all right, listen, hey, make sure 109 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: you stay in because you got that Pro Bowl game 110 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: coming up, where where the film don't matter, you know 111 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, The actual winning and losing it don't matter. 112 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Only reason they don't they don't complain about that in 113 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: the NBA. Uh, it's because one is in the middle 114 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: of the season. These dudes still have they in shape, 115 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: they still have to go out and play afterwards, and 116 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: then they only play hard in the full quarter, you 117 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But all Star weekend it's set 118 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: up so differently to where it's like a true celebration 119 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: and pro Bo is just probably the season with like 120 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: think about the dudes who were done in decenting like 121 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: January Knights like bro so a month later I gotta 122 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: go outare and do what? So should they put some 123 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: incentive on the game, like you know, I know it's 124 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: after these seasons, so it's not like they can say, 125 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: you know, whatever side wins. You know, the NFC gets 126 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, home fill avantge or whatever. You can't really 127 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 1: do that because, um, you know, it's not in the 128 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: middle of the season. So should they put some type 129 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: of incentive like maybe money wise, maybe you know drafted. Well, 130 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, because they gotta make 131 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: the game because right now there's no point in watch 132 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: it's done. But what you saw is what you're gonna get. 133 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: Okay that the people who really get something out of 134 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, or the people who actually went to Vegas, 135 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: the fans who went out there and they were able 136 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,479 Speaker 1: to watch the skills and drills and get the autographs 137 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: from the guys that they wanted, those are the people 138 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: who are really getting some out of it, all right. 139 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: It's I don't think it's anything you can do about 140 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: imagine going like you you're a gambler, you're in Vegas, 141 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: you gamble on the game. I think they go and 142 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: then you see the effort that they're putting out there. 143 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: You're a bad gambler if that's what it was. And 144 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: you was going out there the bed on the Pro 145 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Bow knowing like this ain't the first time them dudes 146 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: was out there playing like that, all right, Like the 147 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,559 Speaker 1: like remembering what Sean Taylor did. If that stuff happened 148 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: to they dudes are being some serious trouble, bro. There'll 149 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: be some real beef going on if somebody went out 150 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: there and smacked the receiver coming across the miner. Bro, 151 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: come on, this ain't it ain't. It ain't the same. 152 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: It ain't the same, old school dudes, it ain't the same. 153 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: Y'all was out there wild the young the young. We 154 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: work smarter, not harder. All right, all these dudes they 155 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: at home, they're healthy, they're healthy with their family. They're 156 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: not in the hospital walking around because they tore se 157 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: reps of achilles. Like going hard for a Pro Bowl game. Actually, 158 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, the game doesn't mean 159 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: anything to that, Like they already made it. Get you 160 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: know what, you're good. And by the way, the winning 161 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: team gets eighty kachka and then the losing team gets forty. 162 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: It's a little incentive. These are bro, these are Pro 163 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: Bowl players. Bro. Nothing, Yeah, they got fine a grand 164 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, they played for your offseason adventures. You know 165 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Okay, how about this? How about that? 166 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: So now, so now you get a workout monus for 167 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand. But now you can't even show up 168 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: the workout because you made eighty can't You can't show up, 169 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: and now you might lose your spot because you see 170 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: boys getting that's the right, that's right people getting white. 171 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: Don't let it be you. Exactly. The skills competition was 172 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: more compani exactly exactly CB. So before we dive into 173 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, Dan Quinn and the comments Jerry May, let's 174 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: talk about this skills because that's what I watched. To 175 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: be honest, once I turned on the real Pro Bowl game, 176 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: I was like, man, you know I ain't watching it. 177 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: Ain't of them. So the skills challenge, we had two 178 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: of our guys competing. I think it was the fastest 179 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: man competition. I don't know if it was forty yards. 180 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what they were racing, but it was 181 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: a forty forty. So the two players we had in 182 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: there Michael Parsons, Trademond Diggs, and the other two were 183 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: the Cheetah Tyreek Hill and Nick Chub, the running back 184 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: out of Cleveland. Now, going into this, I know Michael 185 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: Parsons ran what he were like a four to three 186 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: something in at the combat, so I know he was 187 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: going to show out. We know the type of guy 188 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: he is. He's a competitor. Anytime there's some type of 189 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 1: competitive juices going on, he wants all a part of it. 190 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: He's a young guy. He's young exactly. He's a young 191 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: guys that would have been my So going into that, 192 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: you saw what the guy was able to do in 193 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: that forty yard dash. Does that further cement him as 194 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: being one of the most explosive players, especially being a 195 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: rookie International Football League? I mean he was. I know, 196 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Tyreek didn't really trial like that. He came out that 197 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: the box jog and he had his full suit on, 198 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: so he really wasn't going like that. But thenz and 199 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: Chuck up. They were trying and that's a corner and 200 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: that's a running back going against a linebacker slash defensive end. 201 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: Did it further solidify anything for you and that in 202 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: that regard, No, sir, I mean for three or fourty three, 203 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: it don't matter what you play, all right. So once 204 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: once he see men of the fact that he was 205 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: running that fast, I wasn't surprised that he was there. 206 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: While I also wasn't surprised that Tyree Hill didn't sprint 207 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: like I said, Tyrek Hills a vent in the game. 208 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: He got nothing to prove. You could turn the film 209 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: on and see how fast is do this. All you 210 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: got to do is turn it on and see him 211 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: waving the dudes breaking ankles could touch. Even if let's 212 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: just take Tyrek tried like I'm really in these box, 213 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: I'm really getting out. You think Parsons would have had 214 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: any chance to beat him? Now, I don't think it 215 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: would have been a blowout of a race. But now 216 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Tyrey Hill, Tyrek Hill. The race I would like to 217 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: see is Tyree Hill and Jamar Chase just just game 218 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: film game speed. Those are two dudes. When you turn 219 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: the film on and you watch how they just defeat 220 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: angles of guys and and then them dudes ain't slow 221 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: corners at all. And then that's what it like you said, 222 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: they're erasing angles out there like you see. I see. 223 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: I watched on that. I think it was they played 224 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 1: Cincinnati the first time during the regular season. I think 225 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: it was week seventeen, and um, what's the no, no, no no, 226 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It was the playoff game against the Bills 227 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: and Tyrek Hill caught that overtime pad or whatever my 228 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: man literally was piecing dudes out. They were five yards 229 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: ahead of him, so and he was piecing them out 230 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: five yards behind him. No one he was going to 231 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: be erased that angle. I mean, that's pure speed. And 232 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: then like you said, Jamar chased the way he's his 233 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: ability to just gang ground on people. It's remarkable. That 234 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: would have been a hell of a race to check 235 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: out and and listen. This is how you know dudes 236 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: is fast. Right if your coach does not yell at 237 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: you on the sideline when you're getting burnt out. Anytime 238 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: Tyrek Hill line up at number three in a closed 239 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: formation with a tight end and he runs that over route, 240 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: you can automatically assume that he's going to be open 241 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: because nobody can run, you know, step for step with him. 242 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: And then the coach is just like, dangn that go again. 243 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: You can't. You can't. You can't even want to ground. 244 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: You can't coach. You can't coach the dude the run faster. 245 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: Right if the d lid don't get there, Tyrek Hill 246 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: is able to outrun anybody who's covering him. So that's 247 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: how you know dudes is fast. When the coach is like, man, 248 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: I got nothing. You remember we used to be like 249 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: called hamstring buster. Who used to be the hamstring buster. 250 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm a can breaking Yeah, I mean your hammies are 251 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: gone if you try to chase that man. It was 252 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: Coach Baker used to be like, hey, man, y'all make 253 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: sure y'all stress for y'all get out there on that 254 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: field to day, because I'm telling you, dudes is coming. Okay, 255 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: play play teen yards, I'll play twit. Yeah, whatever you 256 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: got to do to make sure this dude don't get 257 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: past you, because you know he's just that fast. There's 258 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: a hamstring buster. He's a hamstring buster all right now. 259 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: But before we take our first break, you know, we 260 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: got a couple of minutes before that first one. Let's 261 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: dive into a little bit more Cowboys football. Let's get 262 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: a little bit more deeper into this now. You know, 263 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: with all the reports going out there, Miami didn't have 264 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 1: their their head coach hired. I forget his same Mike McDaniels. 265 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: I thought the multiratial Yeah, oh, why couldn't they just 266 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: say buying the ball time ranger. I ain't gonna lie 267 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: to you, I ain't gonna dive into it. But look 268 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: at the picture. Look at the picture. I said, wait, 269 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: we look at the picture. You identified as whatever you 270 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: want to whatever. Everybody got that, right, I guess I 271 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: don't know what. Just look at the picture. That ain't 272 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: the problem. Okay, they talking about black coaches. I don't 273 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 1: care what they're talking about, specifically black coaches. And the 274 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: reason they talk about black coaches because most of the 275 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: league is black. That's what we're talking about, all right, 276 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: But whatever. Yea, they hired him. They hired him, So 277 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Miami got their guy. And I don't know if Kellen 278 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: has anything else lined up around the league as far 279 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: as interviewing process, not sure, but from all you know, 280 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: from what it looks like, the guy might be coming 281 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: back to Dallas or he is coming back to Dallas. 282 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: Do you feel like bringing him back as that offensive coordinator? 283 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel like that makes this team that much better? 284 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: Better than who better? Just as overall just having him 285 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: back on this offensive scheme or whatever offense we've been 286 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: running these past couple couple of years. Do you think 287 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: that bringing him back is the right thing for the Cowboy? Yeah, 288 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: it was the last few years, and they've been good, 289 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: Okay the last few Okay, the year before Dak got paid. 290 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: This was the year when Dak was on my fantasy 291 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: team and he was getting enough but trash yards. We 292 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: came here every week. It was like trash yards. We know, 293 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: if Dak had ten points in the first half, it 294 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: didn't matter because he was gonna get twenty five in 295 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: a second because they was gonna be a slow starting 296 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: team who had to come back, and they still didn't 297 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: have a good record all before he got hurt. That 298 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: next year, we were almost losing to Atlanta if the 299 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: watermelon kicks. We were turning the ball over like crazy. 300 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: We were not on pace to be a Super Bowl 301 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: winning team or one of those offenses to where they 302 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: are electric from start defense. It was like we gotta 303 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: clause up back in it. Same thing we saw this 304 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: year when you played against some good competition, or the 305 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: further that you got into the season when you had 306 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: to start switching stuff up, because though the defensive coordinators 307 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: are able to see what you're doing, we were not 308 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: able to be successful. So the only thing that can 309 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: make this being successful with Keller Moore coming back is 310 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: if he goes and this is no pun attend. If 311 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: he goes in the lab, we're gonna another coach going 312 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: into the lab. Bro. He got to go into the lab, Bro, 313 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: and he got to sit back and he got to 314 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: go in there. First, you need to look at the 315 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: mirror and say, listen, whatever I did or whatever I'm 316 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 1: doing with this specific quarterback is not working how it 317 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: should be working right with the weapons that we have. 318 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Then going the lab with dan Quinn and figure out 319 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: how you can scheme up some other stuff, how you 320 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: can get your guys in one on one position to 321 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: say that I'm better than this guy and I'm gonna 322 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: beat him on the slant, I'm gonna beat him on 323 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: the face some of those Dad's Brian plays some of 324 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: some of that, like mine is better than yours, and 325 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: when we're gonna we're gonna toss it up and see 326 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: who can get it. Going the lab, see if you 327 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: can get that done. Maximize the potential of your star players. 328 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: And then I think I think the scuys the limit 329 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: for us. But if you continue to be able to 330 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: let defenses dictate what you're going to run based off 331 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: what they scheme and what they show and how they disguise, 332 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same thing. Yea, you know the 333 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, I'm with you because because the 334 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: guy you know credited this guy, he did have the 335 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: number one offense, you know, throughout the regular season, but 336 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: that didn't correlate to more wins. You know, we got 337 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: into the dance and we weren't able to get over 338 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: the hump. Weren't able to go out there and get 339 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: to w against San Francisco forty nine ers. And a 340 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: lot of that's got to be on the offensive side 341 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: of the football because defense, you know, the forty nine 342 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: were able to run the football on us. They scored 343 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: on the first four possessions, but the defense of the 344 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: second half they held their own. They gave us an 345 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: opportunity to go out there and win the game. You know. Offensively, 346 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: we just weren't able to get out of that slump. 347 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: It just seems like we weren't able to get out 348 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: of our way, whether it's you know, penalties, the defense 349 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: just figuring us out, not enough creativity, whatever the case 350 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: may be. We weren't able to get over that hump offensively, 351 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: and that was supposed to be a strength, especially coming 352 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: into this season, how lowded we are. We were supposed 353 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: to have the three thousand yard receivers. We got a 354 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: ninety million dollars back in the backfield and a great 355 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: compliment back to him, and Tony Pollard got the tight 356 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: end situation. Offensive line, it's not the best as it 357 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: was in the past, but it's definitely nowhere, you know, 358 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: as bad as Cincinnati's offensive line is. So we had 359 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: no excuses out there. Yet through the beginning of the season, 360 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: it was all up, Oh man, that's throwing the ball 361 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: over the place. You know, this offense is clicking on 362 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: all cylinders. We had two running backs in the top 363 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: ten rushing for the National Football League. The receivers are happy, 364 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: everything's going great, and then that calf injury happened and 365 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: he missed two games, and then after that that slump happened, 366 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: and it just seemed like we weren't able to get 367 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: out of our own way. And like I said, I 368 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: don't know if that was creativity wise. You know, defense 369 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: is just kind of getting the tapeall kelling and figuring 370 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: out how to slow him down offensively or what in 371 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: case may be. But in your opinion, what does this 372 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 1: offense need to do next year to be able to 373 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: be I mean, I know they were the number one 374 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: offense this year, but to at least get that number 375 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: one offense and have wins to back it up as well. 376 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: I think you should not be focusing on being a 377 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: number one offense. I think you should be focusing on 378 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: being a balanced offense with an identity. You need to 379 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: find a way to when you're building this team for 380 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: next year and you're putting it together, to say this 381 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: is what our identity is going to be. Right, I'm 382 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: gonna go back to when we had the offensive line. 383 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: Nobody had a question what our identity was. When we 384 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: had Tyren Smith, and we had Travis Frederick and you 385 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: had Zach Mark. It was no question. Every defense that 386 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: we played knew exactly what they was gonna get. For 387 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: sixty minutes on Sunday, you was gonna have to see 388 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: them dudes. You had to see Zeke, had to see 389 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: de Marco, and then you was gonna have to uh 390 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: Davis was gonna be in a one on one, right, 391 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: You knew exactly what was gonna happen and they couldn't 392 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: stop it. So the number one thing they need to 393 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: do you need to find a way to find some balance, 394 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: get some identity so your team knows exactly who they are? 395 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: Why are they going through the season because nobody knew 396 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: what we were? Do you think like this? So, do 397 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: you think the offense is trying to feature a strength 398 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: that really isn't a strength? You know they're trying to 399 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: I know, I know Dak Prescott's a hell of a quarterback. 400 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: He's a hell of a player. I wouldn't call him 401 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: a leak or anything like that, but he's a hell 402 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: of a player. Do you think what we're doing offensively 403 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: it's just trying to highlight him too much instead of 404 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: being more of that balance, you know, highlight Zeke a 405 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: little bit here, not put everything on Dak Prescott's shoulders. 406 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: Do you think that might be some of the disconnect 407 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: here between being a number one offense and not correlating 408 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: the victories. Yeah, I'm just gonna say I believe that 409 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: it is. I want to say overthinking, but it's getting 410 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: close to overthinking of like, how how can we draw 411 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: the play and make sure the read happens perfectly every 412 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: time to where you have to hit the right person 413 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: every single time versus sometimes you got to throw some 414 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: contested balls. I mean, the dudes gotta make some contested catches. 415 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes the hole is gonna be clogged up, but you 416 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: got a ninety million dollar guy back there, You got 417 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Tony Paula back there. Sometimes the player is gonna have 418 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: to make that play right. It doesn't have to be 419 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: perfect every time, but you have to get these dudes 420 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: involved in the game so they can show you why 421 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: they are special. Right now, we're not letting dude show 422 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: why they're special. We just letting dudes run routes and 423 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: then if they open based off whatever the defense gives you, 424 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: then that's what they got. But that's not why you 425 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: pay dudes. That ain't why you pay him. Mark Cooper million, 426 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean hundred million. You pay him a hundred million 427 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: because you know that if he lines up one on 428 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: one that he can route this dude up and he 429 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: should be open. You pay Zeke ninety million because you 430 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: know if you give him twenty carries, your record is 431 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: almost four to one. All done, hell a lot better. 432 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: That's why you're paying this dude ninety million dollars. Right 433 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: when when Ezekiel Elliott was out, when he was suspending 434 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: up six games, why did we feel like the season 435 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: was over? He was that that guy right identity and 436 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: we just don't have that right now. Oh Zeke, Yeah, yeah, 437 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 1: he passed blocking and he doing good and nobody got 438 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't want to pass blocking. We 439 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: want to run back in the back ninety million. Yeah, 440 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: run the ball, bro what are you doing? Zeken special? 441 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: He can still be special, but if you don't give 442 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: him the opportunity, like Jerry said, yeah, you're gonna waste 443 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: the career. You're going to continue till when you're gonna 444 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: waste Tony Bowler's career. You're gonna waste Z's career. Coop 445 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know what they're gonna do with 446 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: Coop this year and all these other guys, but you yeah, 447 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: you put in some money on some guys and you're 448 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: gonna be like, man, my ro I just did not 449 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: come back. It didn't come back at all. Nine. Well, 450 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna take our first break here, which is at 451 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: the s WBC studios here at the Star. When we 452 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: get back, we're gonna dive into a little bit of 453 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: these free agents or who's gonna stay, who's not a 454 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: Mark Cooper. 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SeatGeek, get your seat in a seat 499 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: Back to the players loud back here, and I asked 500 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: WBC Studios. This is the Player's Lounge, brought to you 501 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: by hotels dot com and Danny, you know how use 502 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: hotels dot com, you know, get my mountain trips that 503 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: you so, yeah, they're getting me right. Take birthday. They 504 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: took care. They took care of me. Man, So make 505 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 1: sure if you if you're traveling within you know, anywhere 506 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: at the hotels dot com. I need the church because 507 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: I know your code is a little different. Now code 508 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: it's about the same. But uh CB, he got a 509 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: he got a little bit of Jerry's audio that we're 510 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: gonna listen to here about Dan Quinn and bringing him 511 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: back to this cowboy organization. I know my boy Daniel 512 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: Berry is excited about it, so sebe can you roll 513 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: that audio for us please? What we really did, the 514 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: hard work on was to maintain dan Quinn, and I 515 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: felt that that had a lot of different different things vantages, 516 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: and I mentioned that I was so pleased was how 517 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: we had stayed in communication with Dan, stayed in communication 518 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: with his representatives, and how Mike had spent time and 519 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: had his polls talking to him because all of us 520 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: wanted Dan to stay. That was a key to our 521 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: continuity here. Well, you heard it Ry first, or you 522 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: heard it at that interview, but you know, I know 523 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: you're excited about this, Danny. I know you're exciting because 524 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: you was beating down the walls before anybody beat down 525 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: the walls about bringing dan Quinn back to this Cowboys 526 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: organization or just bringing him here in general. So, what 527 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the Cowboys bringing dan Quinn back 528 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: as their defensive coordinator even though he was one of 529 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: the hottest candidates in the league this offseason as far 530 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: as getting a new head coaching job so so far, 531 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: definitely the biggest move of the off season. Um and 532 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: depending on who you can get in the draft, it 533 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: might continue to be the biggest move of all season. 534 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: I think what we missed in that video was Jerry 535 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: Jones saying kind of insinuating that guys like to stay 536 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: here in Dallas, especially when they assume that they may 537 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: be a potential head coach Das guys. It's guys, guys 538 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: have that that that that kind of idea of like, 539 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: hey man, I want to be in Dallas. There's a 540 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: potential for me to be a head coach. And he 541 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: wants guys to think that, right, he wants guys to 542 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 1: think that. So you got last week, you had Sean Payton, 543 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: you know, all that talk about John pay Now you 544 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: got this talk about my man dan Quinn. I'm just 545 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: glad that Kelly Moore is not in the running to 546 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: be the head coach for the Dallas Cowboys. We don't 547 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: know that yet. We don't don't I know, I know 548 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: you got Mike McCarthy dan Quinn up here. There's no 549 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: way there's an elevation of Kelly Moore over dan Quinn's 550 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. But now I love 551 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: it man to you know, all seriousness or whatever, Kelly Moore, 552 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't have no issue what to do. This as 553 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: an all series of to the poke. I don't I 554 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know the dude, but um, I 555 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: think it's great, I think Michael. I think it's gonna 556 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: help the help Michael Parsons continue to be a better player. 557 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: Depending on what we do with Tank. I think it 558 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: Tank gets a full year under Dan Quinn, you will 559 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: see a much better Tank. When he came back, he 560 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: looked like a totally different player than what he was 561 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: last year. Depending on what you do with Randy, depending 562 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: on how many tools you give this dude. You see, 563 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: he could make some noise, and that was just his 564 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: first year where you've seen him. You know, they chopped 565 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: at a half pretty much of like we were the 566 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: worst all of a sudden, we floating around the middle 567 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: of the pack. Next year, if you give the dude 568 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: the tools, then you should be able to get up 569 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: into that top ten defense. And I'll be asking for 570 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 1: my bet back. I don't know about top ten, This 571 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: defense will definitely get I'll ask for my bag. Were 572 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: gonna see, We're gonna see. But I'm with you on 573 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: this regard. You know, I think you know Dan and 574 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: Quinn last year was definitely one of the biggest free 575 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: agent you know, acquisitions we got, if we can call 576 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 1: it that, And I think it's it definitely proved dividends 577 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: for this defense overall last year, and then bringing him 578 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: back in that same type of defensive coordinator role um 579 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: to me is important because you, like you said, he 580 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: got the most out of all his players, because pretty 581 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: much a lot of those players that were on that 582 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: historically bad defense in twenty twenty we're part of this 583 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty two season, and they played extremely well. 584 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Anthony Brown, Jordan Lewis, look at what 585 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: Diggs did out there. They were able to play extremely 586 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: well out there. Even Lvee he came back and had 587 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 1: one of his bounce back years. He wasn't back to 588 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: his Pro Bowl caliber, but he was definitely a solid 589 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,959 Speaker 1: player out there. So I think dan Quinn definitely got 590 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: the most out of all his players out there production wise, 591 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: and another year under that system that could be even better. 592 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what we're gonna do with the law 593 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: and those other guys and a lot of free agents 594 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football, but bringing back 595 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: dan Quinn definitely definitely will prove dividends for this defense. 596 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: I mean, when you got guys like you know, Curse 597 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: coming in here, Kzy Brent Urban, you got a couple 598 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: of guys that, you know, not really big known guys 599 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: around the NFL, but he was able to go out 600 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: there and turn Curse, who basically in Detroit and Minnesota 601 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 1: was you know, a special teams guy. He played defense 602 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: sparingly here and there. He turned that guy into one 603 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: of the better safeties in the National Football League. You Now, 604 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just his system or 605 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: however he used him, but the guy was definitely highly 606 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: productive out there as a safety. You look at Kazy, 607 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: he was able to do some pretty good things, even 608 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: though he needs to work on his angles in the 609 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: back end, but that's a story for another day. You 610 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: got this defensive line who he works extensively with, you 611 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: know the law urban O, Diggi Zooa, you know Gallamore, 612 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. He works with those guys on an everyday basis, 613 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: and he got him flying around. He had him flying 614 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: around as well as aiden he's their defensive line coach 615 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: out there. He had those guys flying around. So the 616 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: importance of bringing back a dan Quinn to me, it's 617 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's up there. It's extremely high up there, 618 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: and this guy has proved dividends for this Cowboys defense 619 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 1: and this organization overall, and the culture of your team. Yeah, 620 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: their entire team. We saw the entire team followed that 621 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 1: swag that dan Quinn came in with. Now, it didn't 622 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: get us to the super Bowl, but you can you 623 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: can just fill it from around the building from due 624 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: our training camp and you're hearing like how the defense 625 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: is playing and all that, and you can attribute a 626 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,479 Speaker 1: lot of that to dan Quinn. I think even Mike 627 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: McCarthy got a little bit more comfortable knowing that he 628 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: had a defensive coordinator who could really get the most 629 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: out of his players on the other side of the ball. 630 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: I think that also helped Mike McCarthy be better at 631 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: his job as well. So it's huge that we got 632 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: dan quinnback stay another couple of years. By man, please 633 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: let us let us be let the Cowboys be known 634 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: for having a good defense. Let let that be something, right, 635 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: because when this last time we've been known for that, right, 636 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: it's always been offense. I've always been offen. Let's get 637 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: the first round draft pick. Let's get this. We got rong, 638 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: we got the Marco. Now now we got a team 639 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: to where we can get the defense rolling. So I'm okay, 640 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: if we get a two thousand Ravens type defensive performers 641 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: from from the Dallas Cowboys moving forward, I'm cool with that. 642 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: And without further ado, we got the legend, the man, 643 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 1: the myth, the legend, Will McClay joining the players lounge 644 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: here down at the s WBC studios. Thank you, Will 645 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: for stopping Baden to talk to me and my boy 646 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: McCray right there, right on time. I got any about 647 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: twenty seconds off. Look like that's see, that's that's why. 648 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: That's why he is what he at right now exactly early. No, 649 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: that's why I like y'all because y'all were on which 650 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: made me there you go, there you go. What's up, 651 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: Will Man? How you been good? Man? Just got back 652 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: from the Senior Bowl. Okay, a week of Mobile Alabama. 653 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: I can see that. I can see one of my 654 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: old teammates, Kelvin Shepherd, is out there. He was coaching. 655 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: Was he cousin linebackers? Use linebackers? He's like he was 656 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: having a of the time he's out there in Detroit. 657 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so it looked like he was doing 658 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: a good job out there, man, you know, so it's mobile, 659 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: So you got to look for the posters. This is true. 660 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: It is true. Yeah, alright, Well, so I ain't gonna 661 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: hold you up too much, man, I just wanted to 662 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: pick your brain a little bit here, you know, going 663 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: into You've been doing this for years now, years now, 664 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: scouting and then getting these picks in for these guys 665 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: here at the Cowboys, and you've done an amazing job. 666 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: I mean from LV to you know, Parsons to you 667 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: know Jaylen Smith was out there for a while doing 668 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: and CD and days. I mean, your records impeccable. So 669 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: what goes through, you know, the process and an offseason 670 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: like yourself going through scouting these players, getting them, you know, 671 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: ready for the combound, Like what what what are you 672 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: looking for in these players to come to Dallas and 673 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: help this team out. At the end of the day, 674 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: what we really need to continue to improve on us 675 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: getting those dogs. We need to get those guys at 676 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: the time when it's time to make plays, to make 677 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: those plays. And as you build a team, you continue 678 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: to do that. But when it starts, when the season's over, 679 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: we understand where our rosters. We go evaluate our roster, 680 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: what kind of what plays A free agents what holes are. 681 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: We're going to have that whole process, do it that 682 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: way to talk about where our team is. And the 683 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: college scouts have been out since you know, August, going 684 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: looking at prospects and so they've built all the reports 685 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: and we're continuing to find out about the players and 686 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: then we get to see them live, interview them, do 687 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: all that stuff. That's what starts now is like trying 688 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: to find out what's on the inside. You know, we 689 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: can watch the tape and find out kind of their abilities. 690 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: Now what's more important is finding out what's on the inside. 691 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: Can they learn, do they have the right stuff, and 692 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 1: then do they fit what we do? So just off 693 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: the topic a little bit, So I want to know 694 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: how the new college system is affecting how you think 695 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: about players, right because you see guys sitting out years 696 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: they might not play in the Bowl game. They might 697 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: be having a different mindset now because they might be 698 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: making a little money before they even get to the league. 699 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: And I know, I know back in the passage just 700 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: like dudes is grinding so they can they can try 701 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: to make some money for their family. They want to 702 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 1: make sure that they get that. And then now you 703 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 1: got guys were freshman's freshman going out there making a 704 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: million dollars hire million dollars there. So how does that 705 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 1: affect how you look at a player, how much more 706 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: research you have to do, and to who they are 707 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: as a person. It's ever evolved. It's you know, you 708 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: add that layer into it because, like you guys said, 709 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: when we were coming up, it was ball and you 710 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: know you had to do something to put food on 711 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: the table. Now these guys are getting opportunities in college 712 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: to do that. So what's going to be their motivation 713 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: for playing ball? That's why you got to dig in 714 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: and find out about them. And you know, I always 715 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: say it's about scouting and what we do. We're asking 716 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: people about people and putting them into another environment with people. Well, 717 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: now you add the element of finances and what's in 718 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: a dude's mindset when it becomes more difficult and so 719 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: you really have to dig. You really got a call 720 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: on like, it's important for me to have guys like 721 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: you interact with some of the young guys because y'all 722 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: are younger guys that but are old heads that kind 723 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: of understand the new and the young age. So it's 724 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: it's trying to get that information and really dissected as 725 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: much as possible, because it's really hard because, for example, 726 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: we had this hard line stance last year at the 727 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: beginning of the process. When you're thinking about guys who 728 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: didn't play, guys who opted out, Well, now you got 729 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: to find out what their why is, why did they 730 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: opt out? Okay, now you got to weigh some of 731 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: that in with your thought pressing. And there's biases and 732 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: everything we do we try and overcome those and say, 733 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: if we're gonna look at this situation this way, let's 734 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: make sure we look at the other situation with all 735 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: the different variables you know involved too, to try and 736 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: help us make a better decision. And it's crazy too 737 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 1: because two of the best players this season did not 738 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: play college Parsons Chase did not play college football. That 739 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: if to it. That adds to it. And you know, 740 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: we go to like the Senior Bowl and agents are 741 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: pulling players out after a couple of days, and that's 742 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: been common, but it's just more so now because there 743 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: are some guys that didn't play last year and had success, 744 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: so other guys think they can do that. Well, you 745 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: might not be those two. Everybody always always remember that. 746 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: So I want to ask another one, um, what is 747 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: the evaluation of free agents, like, because these past a 748 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: couple of free agents that you guys have had that 749 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: the Curses, the Kazys, they've come here and they bawled out, 750 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: I mean curse. You know when he was in Minnesota, 751 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: when he was in Detroit, he was more just a 752 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: special teams guy, came in here and did a couple 753 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: of defensive snaps here and there. You know, when you're 754 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: evaluating guys like that, how did you how did you 755 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: know that he was gonna be able to come here 756 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: and be kind of that standout safety, kind of be 757 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 1: that guy in the back end. And can you also 758 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: add parcels in there too, because we also want to know, 759 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: like because when I wasn't here at that time when 760 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: Parslons got drafted and I was like, yeah, old line 761 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: also stuff and then people saw it though, Like so 762 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: just kind of going too in regards to curse and 763 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: like pro free agents College's projection. You know, you're projecting 764 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: these dudes in when you go to pro free agents, 765 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: it's more these guys are actually this is they're actually 766 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: competing against NFL guys, and so you kind of look 767 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: at this skill set and for us defensively and offensively 768 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: when you include players in there, that's where the communication 769 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: with coaches and stuff, Right, Okay, what's your vision for 770 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: this player? What are you looking for? So then we 771 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: go out and try and find the skill set and 772 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: there's evidence on that skill set on tape on NFL. Guys, 773 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: you say, Okay, if we coach him right, he can 774 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: fit in this role. And I think with Dan and 775 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: what we've done in the free agent parts, you gotta 776 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: feel for guys like if both of you guys were 777 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: free agents right now coming into the system, I would say, 778 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: Danny mccraige, boom boom boom, this is what he can do. 779 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: This is what he can't do. Same thing with Barry Church, coach, 780 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: what are you looking for? Now? These things fit and 781 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: it's it's actual to me, it's it's it's easier when 782 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: you go UFA's it's actual from a skill set standpoint. Now, 783 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: what you still have to kind of get wrap your 784 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: mind around is who is a dude who you're bringing 785 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: into the locker room? His skill sets? One thing? Now, 786 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: who you're bringing in because the culture is the locker 787 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: room to fit all that other stuff. And then when 788 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: it comes to Micah as far as players, um, we 789 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: remember going through the draft meetings and you look at Okay, 790 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: he can do this, he can do that, he can 791 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: do this, uh and all at a high level. But 792 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: now it's how are you going to use him? That's 793 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: the key, you know, it's you say it's about I 794 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: always say it's about the Jimmy's and the Joe's, not 795 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: the exes and the os. But you got to figure 796 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: out where Jimmy and Joe go within your exes and 797 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: o's and that's where the coaching comes in. So so 798 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: with that because you know, I'm a dan Quinn so 799 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: so in my mind to me, I'm just thinking that 800 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: Dan dan Quinn specifically not not the shots to other 801 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: other coaches that have been here, specifically has an idea 802 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: before you pick, like when you ask the guy, hey, man, 803 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: like where am I? What am I gonna do with him? 804 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: What do I need him to do? Like a curse? 805 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: And dan Quinn in his mind has that he knows 806 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: exactly what that is and it's set in stone like yeah, 807 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: like I know exactly what I could do with a 808 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: guy like that. That's right, Yes, that's it, and that's 809 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 1: that's the key to it. The NFL now is so uh, 810 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: there's so many roles and different players on the way 811 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: people do it. You have to match defenses, have to 812 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,719 Speaker 1: match offenses now. So you look at the skill set 813 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: and what a guy can do. But it's not just 814 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: doing the one thing because you don't want a guy 815 00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: they can do one thing, because the team will flip 816 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: it around and put a guy in motion. Make it. 817 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: You got to be able to do two things. You 818 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: gotta be able to do the high level curse, for example, 819 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: is able to cover tight ends. He's able to fit 820 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: down in the box. He had the length and the 821 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: physicality to be able to play in the box. There 822 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 1: may be a guy who can cover tight ends but 823 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: may not be big enough to fit in the box. 824 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: So where does that fit within your defense and what 825 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: you want to do. It's just so the NFL has 826 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 1: becomes so role specific now and it's because you're taking 827 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: players from a college environment that the college environment is 828 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: starting to eke into the NFL. But it's still the 829 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: NFL with a few wrinkles in it. But so you 830 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: have to fit those pieces in right. We talked about 831 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 1: the Pro Bow early today. So just a quick tip 832 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: bit on that. What do you if you're a player 833 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 1: is in the Pro Bowl? Do you want them to 834 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: go out there and play harder than what you're watching 835 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: On some tags, I'm saying, but it's the risk worth 836 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: the reward in your mind it's not. But well, for me, 837 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: you want them to go out and see him play 838 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: football every time. You know, that's the old school in me. 839 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: But there's also the reality of it, as those contracts 840 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: are not guaranteed. There's there's different mindset that go into 841 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: do I make that decision to hit somebody when it 842 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: doesn't really count, right, That's the tough part about it. 843 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: Like my ac jone was hurting two weeks ago. I've 844 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: been on the couch. Now you want me to go 845 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: ahead and hit this dude? Because I do it. I'm 846 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: watching the game and I'm like, I understand. I'm just 847 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: happy y'all went out there and gave the gay the 848 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: fans something to actually watching. Some of the fans are 849 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 1: watching like what, and I'm like, yeah, but that's just 850 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: like the NBA off starting. Okay, what do you want 851 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: to do? You want to see scoring? You know, have fun. 852 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: Let's see, it's the reward of the game. We don't 853 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: want to see our players that were counting on the 854 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: next year get hurt, you know, and not be able 855 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,479 Speaker 1: to help our team. But you know that you're gonna 856 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: go out there and as a football player, old school style, 857 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, anytime I strip up, I'm gonna give 858 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: my best. Yeah, it's it's a little bit different to 859 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: your quarterback out there on the offensive line. He might not. Yeah. 860 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,279 Speaker 1: So I got a little I got a little two 861 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: part of for you here. Two part of part one. UM, 862 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, how impressed were you with Dan Quinn and 863 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: you know his ability to basically turn this defense around 864 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: and have them taking football away almost as good as 865 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: anybody in the National Football League. And then my second 866 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: part kind of a fun question, is this the best 867 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: defensive line that you've seen here? Because we've been a 868 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: part of some good ones with d Ware, you know, 869 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: Hatch and you know rat Living all them guys, is 870 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: this one of the best defensive lines you've been a 871 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: part of? UM well number one in regards to Dan 872 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: and the defensive staff putting it together. I mean, when 873 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: we play football, we all want something to believe in. 874 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,320 Speaker 1: UM you know, and so if I have a coach 875 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: that shows me that I can be better, how he 876 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: can make me better. There's a unique way that you know, 877 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,320 Speaker 1: this season was a unique way to bring all that together. 878 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: You have players that kind of felt that vibe and 879 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: they were all working together and hopefully you can build 880 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: on that. That's the uniqueness of Dan. He can make 881 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: you feel like and and and understand where you're coming from, 882 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: your strengths and your weaknesses and be able to communicate 883 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: that with you. And that's a unique skill set in 884 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: today's day and age when everybody's being paid, you know, 885 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: in college and hey, how do I you know, how 886 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: do I reach this dude to uh, you know, I 887 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: think Dan and might do a great job, but that 888 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: we're trying to understand guys so understand how to motivate 889 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: them and get them to play. As far as the 890 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: D line, I think we're building that. It's nothing compared 891 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: to you know, some of those lines we had when 892 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: you had hat left Ratcher, you know Ratft Hatcher spears 893 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: that gold uh you know, spent you all those guys. 894 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: That was a unique Now these are young guys, dudes 895 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: that are coming. Um, I think that there are some elements, 896 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: but it's hard to say which one was better because 897 00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: I know and there were some guys now, yes, yes, yeah, 898 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: and you was on the tea with them to do 899 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: so when they when they call you and ask you, 900 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: why would you make that? That was not a day 901 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,279 Speaker 1: MC great question. Okay, I just saw d where the 902 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,600 Speaker 1: other day. All right, hall of Fame guy. I did not. 903 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: That is not my question. But so oh yeah, so 904 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: I want to ask about my guy, Okay, my guy Wilona. 905 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 1: Do we else? Okay? Because going into last year, I 906 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 1: think it was last year, right, Blake Jarwin ends up 907 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: getting hurt at the beginning and then shots comes in. 908 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: He has a to us, from our perspective, had a 909 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: rough game just because he had to step in. We 910 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: thought the lights were a little brightening. We were down 911 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 1: on him, Yeah I was. I was. And then you 912 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: see what he's been able to do at the end 913 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: of last year and then all of this year becoming 914 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 1: one of those those those staples for Dak Prescott. Right. 915 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,399 Speaker 1: And then I think a lot of times the tight 916 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: end coaches, they get overlooked for being able to coach 917 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: a guy to be that good. Right, so they might 918 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,040 Speaker 1: he might have the skill set already, but what he 919 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: saw from Dalton Shoultz was you started saying, all right, 920 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: what that better find Schultz when you got a guy 921 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 1: like Coop, when you got a guy like Ceedee Lamb, 922 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: and then Shultz is still able to make that type 923 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: of noise within that offensive scheme by man Luda Wells. Yeah, 924 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: no question, it's coach Wells. There's a standard that he 925 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,080 Speaker 1: has in a room and he's gonna hold everybody accountable 926 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: to it. But then he has a way again of 927 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: making guys better. Everybody that's in that room, they're pros, 928 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: they're at the top of the game, but they always 929 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: want to get better. So he finds little ways to 930 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: make guys better to drive and to make them, you know, 931 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: achieve their stealing. He's gonna challenge them in a way. 932 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: And you got to be in that room, and it's 933 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: got to be in you. And that's the thing about 934 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz is he was in the room with Jason Witten. First. 935 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: He learned how to be a pro from witness and 936 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of little witness ms in him, you know, 937 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: and how he attacks the position and how he runs 938 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 1: his room and all that but then it's coach Wells 939 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: holding them accountable, teaching him he can get to a 940 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: higher level. When a guy can get to a level 941 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: next level, I'm gonna believe in you. I'm gonna get 942 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: the young guys on your side too because of what 943 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: you've done for me. And that's what Wales has done 944 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: and understanding the offensive line being an offensive line coach 945 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: and then learning the passing game. He's bringing an element 946 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: to tight ends that's different than maybe they've received before. Two. Yes, 947 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: I think I had a little bit of LSU so 948 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: me and yeah at loading is my guy, man, Just 949 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: just to see him be able to because I think 950 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: when he was in he went to New York right 951 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: for a minute, and he was maybe like a GA 952 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: or something. He was, he was a line coach, he 953 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: had done some line coach and uh so I've seen 954 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: him and then now just to be able to see 955 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,480 Speaker 1: that's true. Man. He just went from what I'm but 956 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: I remember him being an LSU to what he is 957 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: now and the way he's able to affect these players 958 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: because I'm here. When he was an intern, yeah I 959 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 1: was yeah, so it was intern here. Yeah he was okay, 960 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: And that was when I first. I mean, you know, 961 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: we was kind of coming up together at that time. 962 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 1: I got one more for you on my side. How 963 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: how impressed were you because I know I was certainly 964 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: impressed with the jump that Terrence Steele was able to 965 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 1: make from year one to year two, you know, being 966 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: that swing guy, being all over the offensive line. It 967 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: seemed to me like he was able to hold his 968 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 1: own for the most part. This season. He struggled a 969 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: little bit from here to here, but he's a growing player, 970 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: a young player. He has time to develop. How long 971 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 1: press were you with his playoffs so far as season 972 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,920 Speaker 1: or if this season? I mean, he did an incredible 973 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: job coming back after he played his rookie year, played 974 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: a lot of snaps his rookie year. He came back stronger, 975 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,319 Speaker 1: he came back more determined, And that's the unique part 976 00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: about him. He played both sides, and yeah, it's not ideal, 977 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, there's not enough 978 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: quality offensive lineman to go around thirty two NFL teams. 979 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: People make mistakes drafting guys in the first round in 980 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: the second round and don't get the level of performance 981 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: that we got from Steel. So that's exciting because just 982 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: who the young man is like, he's determined, he got 983 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: a little nasty with him. He's long, he's athletic, and 984 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: he got stronger, and he doesn't say a word. He's 985 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 1: got that offensive line mentality, and he's got a great 986 00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: veteran group to learn from. When you Tyrn Smith and 987 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 1: Zach Martin and LC, you understand what it takes to 988 00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: be a pro and then you got to take it 989 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: upon yourself as a young man, which he did to 990 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: come in his weight room and get stronger and do 991 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: all the things and took to play at a high level. 992 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: And I think he's going to be a surprising player 993 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,400 Speaker 1: for US, young player for us as we continue to 994 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,719 Speaker 1: go forward. I was converted. I mean last year I 995 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: was bound on still and I was like, oh man, 996 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: you know, I hope I hope it right because if 997 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: confidence goes away all of a sudden, when you start 998 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: struggling like that, we've all been through it. And then 999 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: this year, just to see him, to know what he 1000 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: had to go through in order to get as good 1001 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: as he was this year, Like people don't understand that, bro, 1002 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: that's that's a year of it. And then you also 1003 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: have to you have to be vulnerable enough to put 1004 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: yourself back out there and say, listen, I still might 1005 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: get beat right, but I'm gonna trust the work that 1006 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: I did in the off season competitive and it's gonna work. 1007 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: That's the dogs that we're trying to find when we 1008 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,759 Speaker 1: started to deal. I mean, it's guys like y'all. As 1009 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: you continue to grow. People might have ability, but you 1010 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: got to find out what's on the inside. You're not 1011 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: gonna know what's on the inside until you get to 1012 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: experience it with them. You know, you get to find out. 1013 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: You get to put him in the trenches. It doesn't matter. 1014 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 1: You get some guys drafted. I love this time of 1015 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 1: year because you got all these big draft boards and 1016 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: people they don't know anything about that person. We're trying 1017 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: to figure out about that person and see if they 1018 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: got the charent steal or they got the Micah Parsons 1019 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and where the Danny McCray or 1020 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: the buried church. That's the stuff that we're looking for 1021 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 1: that makes a difference. There's Drake. There's Drake hal there. 1022 00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: Because I know you don't like to listen to Drake, 1023 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: do you like? No, I'm not I got that Drake 1024 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: jay Z. You know he's talking about, you know, coming 1025 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: from the struggle and how not lollypops. I don't know. 1026 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: That's a little way. Okay, so so so so so 1027 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: so we dow versus and we dow versus. I'm jay 1028 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: Z over Little Wayne, but he might not, okay, because 1029 00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,720 Speaker 1: you cannot use the mixtapes and all that stuff your albums. 1030 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: Because what I said is when Little Wayne drops his mixtapes, 1031 00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: he goes off other people's beats, and he also kind 1032 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 1: of steals a little part of what they were talking 1033 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: about in the song You're Taking the Man Strings strange 1034 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,799 Speaker 1: a mixtape. You know some people you know got out 1035 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: of school, but I played your ride these get the grees. Yes, 1036 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,120 Speaker 1: all right, well we're gonna We're gonna let you slide about, 1037 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, And you know I'm a fifty 1038 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: five year old hip hop head. I will you know, ride, 1039 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,200 Speaker 1: ride or die with it? Um, Scarface the best in business? 1040 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: Like you heard it here, man, I canna argue listen 1041 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: because I'm from Houston, So you know, we it's a 1042 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:40,280 Speaker 1: thing like you like Wiz and you like we believe 1043 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:44,520 Speaker 1: that Scarface is the guy. Real quick subject quick, real quick, 1044 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: Burrow or Herbert, Oh Burrow, I mean that's why. And 1045 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,799 Speaker 1: here he got that dog, that arterback position that leads 1046 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 1: the whole thing. People want to follow Herbert because of 1047 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,479 Speaker 1: his talent, and he's establishing that. Burrow came in a dog, 1048 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: got the dogs to follow him. And now look where 1049 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 1: they are in a place that you you wouldn't expect 1050 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals to be because they don't do that, and 1051 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 1: they've also been lucky. But he's got that dog. Sat 1052 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: you get sack nine times, don't don't you don't blink 1053 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: the flinch and your team is they got your back. 1054 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: Because we're not gonna say that they win specifically just 1055 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: because Joe Burrow, but the defense is playing harder because 1056 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 1: of Joe Burrows. There is a that Prescott effect to 1057 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, when you get people to believe in you 1058 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,759 Speaker 1: no matter what, they're gonna ride with you. And that's 1059 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: what he's done. Yes, he's just phone right, Herbert. Her 1060 00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: is extremely talented. He's extremely talented. 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I'm joined by the ultimate surmraper, Danny mccraige. 1112 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: But Will's words definitely put a dagger and put a 1113 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: dagger in my Herbert argument over Borrow, because I mean, 1114 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: the guy's been scotting twenty five thirty years now, so man, 1115 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,160 Speaker 1: that that hurt me right. Okay, you can watch Joe 1116 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: Burrow on Sunday on all the TV screens, whatever you 1117 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: want to buy, you watching, you just watching win Super 1118 00:51:57,280 --> 00:51:59,440 Speaker 1: Bowl MVP, and then I don't want to hear nothing 1119 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 1: about this year. What he would have the same number 1120 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,320 Speaker 1: of Super Bowls? Is the great Aaron Rodgers tell you 1121 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 1: just tell anyways. Anyways, I ain't want to bring this 1122 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,319 Speaker 1: up while we had Will over here breaking things down 1123 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 1: for us. But I gotta get to the question. I 1124 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 1: gotta ask you the question. I'm gonna put my two 1125 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 1: cents in there as well, but I'm gonna go with you. First. 1126 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 1: Two guys that you know a lot of reports have 1127 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: been going around. Maybe here may not be here. Let's 1128 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: start with the guy on the offensive side of the football. 1129 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: And I think you know who I'm talking about. If 1130 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: you were ahead of all of this, if you're the 1131 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,399 Speaker 1: guy can charge of bringing guys back, signing guys, all 1132 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: that good stuff, do your bring back number nineteen, Amari Cooper. 1133 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 1: I think I think the thought that we'll have to 1134 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,480 Speaker 1: go into it is kind of something similar to what 1135 00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,480 Speaker 1: Will said right when we talked about Dan Quinn and 1136 00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: you talked about bringing curse in and you said, Hey, 1137 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 1: I see this guy. This is what this guy's gonna do, 1138 00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,799 Speaker 1: this is what he can do, this is really good, 1139 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 1: and that's how we're gonna use them. These are the 1140 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: same conversations that you don't have to have about a 1141 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,600 Speaker 1: Mark Cooper and how you plan to use them. Okay, 1142 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: how we have been using him. I would not I 1143 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't pay twenty meal for basically for what for last year? 1144 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: For last year, I would if we're gonna use them 1145 00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,959 Speaker 1: that way from what I saw on filming in the games, 1146 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: I would not pay twenty meal for. If you are 1147 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: going to make him the guy that guy, right, you're 1148 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: gonna find a way to always get him in one 1149 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,040 Speaker 1: on ones, put him in the slot so so you 1150 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:30,399 Speaker 1: can maximize his ability. If you're gonna do that, then 1151 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: absolutely I'll keep him. But but I feel the same 1152 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,839 Speaker 1: way about Zeke, like if you're not going to use 1153 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: him to what for what? He's good at punishing dudes, 1154 00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:41,839 Speaker 1: so when you're wearing on them, so when they get 1155 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: to the end of the game, I was sudden those 1156 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: those three and four yard runs turn into twenty and 1157 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: you're just gonna use his pass blocking ability that I 1158 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't pay him ninety million either, you know. But I 1159 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: but if you're gonna find a way to maximize these 1160 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: dudes ability and potential kind of kind of like a 1161 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,880 Speaker 1: dance Brian is where I see a Mark Cooper not 1162 00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,720 Speaker 1: going up to get get the jump balls, but finding 1163 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,840 Speaker 1: a way to get him in want to marget target 1164 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: wise right and not just not just the targets, right, 1165 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden you see Mark Cooper get three, 1166 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: three four out routs and he got five targets in five. Kids. 1167 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking about those big time ones like like DeAndre Hopkins, 1168 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams, that type of stuff. If you're gonna use 1169 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 1: them that way, absolutely, If you're not, and you're just 1170 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 1: gonna draw stuff and try to get whoever is open, 1171 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 1: they it doesn't really make much sense. So if you're 1172 00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,320 Speaker 1: going to buy that way, if you know, if he 1173 00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: like you said, if you want to buy that last 1174 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 1: part where you're just drawing stuff up, his price tag 1175 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: is too high at that point. You gotta you gotta 1176 00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 1: kind of let them rattle that one because you're not 1177 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 1: using them, like you said, Like like a Devontae Adams 1178 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: type where we know defenses know going into into Green 1179 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 1: Bay or when they play against green Bay, Devontae Adams 1180 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: is that guy. But the Green Bay Packers know that 1181 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: as well, that defense is going to kill on them. 1182 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 1: But they find ways to either put them in bunches, 1183 00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: put them in motion, find some type of way three 1184 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 1: by one set let him be the single receiver. On 1185 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: that other side, they find ways to get him the 1186 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: football and he's able to prove or dividends for their offense. 1187 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: But we just don't see that here with you know, 1188 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: Amark Cooper. I don't know if it's you know, the 1189 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 1: coaching staff don't. They don't see him as that you know, 1190 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,840 Speaker 1: number one bona five receiver or what the case may be. 1191 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 1: But they're not giving him though. They're not featuring him, 1192 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, like a DeVante Adams, like a DeAndre Hopkins, 1193 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: like somebody along those lines. And I think he has 1194 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: the skill set and I think he is, you know, 1195 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 1: of the caliber player of those guys, and he can 1196 00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: be one of those guys, but he just doesn't get 1197 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,480 Speaker 1: the opportunities as far as big plays, like like you said, 1198 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: we'll see him on a couple of hit trouts here 1199 00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: and there, a couple of slams. He might get an 1200 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: eight yard game here and there, but they're not drawing 1201 00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 1: up plays for him to be that focal point of 1202 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: the offense. And I think you're right if if he's 1203 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: coming back on a twenty million dollars, you know, price tag, 1204 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: then you gotta feature the guy. And if you don't, 1205 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,840 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a waste of money. The 1206 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,160 Speaker 1: only thing that kind of I kind of fear or 1207 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,759 Speaker 1: push back on is if we let Amark Cooper go, 1208 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,280 Speaker 1: we let him walk, you know, what is that receivering 1209 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,440 Speaker 1: corps gonna look like? What is this? Because because as 1210 00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: much as I like Ceede Lamb, he's a pro Bowl player, 1211 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,239 Speaker 1: young emerging receiver, I don't know if he can hold 1212 00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: his own, you know, bayself out there. I don't know 1213 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:00,680 Speaker 1: if he can be the focal point of the offense. 1214 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,440 Speaker 1: Defense is putting all their coverage on Ceedee Lamb. I 1215 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 1: don't know if he's that guy just yet. So if 1216 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: you take Amara Cooper out, does that hinder your offense 1217 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: that much? I don't know. That's the only thing that 1218 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 1: scares me. I'll say that if you let him go, 1219 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to find you, you know, you fifteen 1220 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars guy that you could bring in. But 1221 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: like I said, if you're just drawing up the roster, 1222 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 1: get guys open, then you just need a guy who's 1223 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: able to know offenses and know how to run it. 1224 00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:28,879 Speaker 1: You know, if it's his zone, make sure you sit down, 1225 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,400 Speaker 1: if his man, make sure you keep running. You that 1226 00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,799 Speaker 1: you just need a guy who's technically sound right if 1227 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna pay twenty million dollars. But guy, that has 1228 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 1: to be a guy who when all techniques and all 1229 00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,239 Speaker 1: that stuff is out the window. It's man, I'm going 1230 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: to beat you. I'm going to put you in position, 1231 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,399 Speaker 1: and we can keep looking dudes. In the Super Bowl, 1232 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase goes first round, third and twenty three, thirty 1233 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: twenty seven him, Hey, man, and it ain't about drawing 1234 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,160 Speaker 1: up who's hey, Jamar chases one on one. All right, 1235 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: that's what we throw on the ball to backshow to 1236 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: faith and if we lose it, we're gonna lose it 1237 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: knowing that we went to our number one guy. Like 1238 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 1: la situation. You know, they're getting a zero blitz. Cooper 1239 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,320 Speaker 1: Cup ain't even a part of the central He's just 1240 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,439 Speaker 1: a clear out route. Stafford Jos's back. Hey, I'm gonna 1241 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: throw this up to my guy. And what happens? They 1242 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:10,880 Speaker 1: get the rod. You know, they beat Tampa Bay. They 1243 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,200 Speaker 1: go on to beat up who they beating in the 1244 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. San fran ended up beating San Franz 1245 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 1: and not they're in the Super Bowl, but they feature 1246 00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:22,000 Speaker 1: they highlight their main guys and you know, that's just 1247 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: something if we see it, if we are just sitting 1248 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: here in the podcast studio, we watch practice, we watch 1249 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,800 Speaker 1: the games, if we can see that, I know these 1250 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: coaches have got to be able to do it. So 1251 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm kind of leaning towards their kind of overthinking it 1252 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,680 Speaker 1: or trying to be too perfect or too cute. Oh, 1253 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,360 Speaker 1: if we draw this up like this, the defenses will 1254 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: focus up on it and no, get him. There's no 1255 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,680 Speaker 1: way that's playing to work. Sometimes you just gotta be like, look, man, 1256 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: our guy is better than your guy, or our guys 1257 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 1: better than the guys that are double covering him worst 1258 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 1: feeding the ball. Sometimes they just gotta be like that, 1259 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:53,080 Speaker 1: give the man a chance to make the play. These 1260 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: dudes want to go out here and show that they 1261 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 1: are worth that price to ye. And it's and it 1262 00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:59,520 Speaker 1: gets to the point where it's unfair that we have 1263 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,520 Speaker 1: we coming. We have to say, I don't know we 1264 00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,479 Speaker 1: should pay the dude, and I don't believe it's his fault. 1265 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: I really don't believe it's his fault. I'm I'm of 1266 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: the mindset of like, allow him to show that he 1267 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,080 Speaker 1: can't and then you can say he's not worth it. 1268 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,880 Speaker 1: But I don't feel like he's getting those opportunities. Same 1269 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: with Ze same ceedee Land was the first round pick. 1270 00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: But I still don't think that they are utilizing his 1271 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,960 Speaker 1: his his skill set the correct way. You've seen him 1272 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,360 Speaker 1: come out of the backfield one time. I think it 1273 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,800 Speaker 1: was a big game, and we didn't see it again. 1274 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: Jet Sweet. He's a Jet sweet guy. This is the 1275 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: who you should been in the Jet Sweet. Amark Cooper 1276 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 1: should be running him every time his man coverage. He 1277 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,920 Speaker 1: should be crossing the field in motion because what we 1278 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,080 Speaker 1: know about the defender is when they get motion, you 1279 00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 1: can't press because he's so you should And this is 1280 00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 1: what they do with Defonte Adams. Every time Defronte Adams 1281 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 1: come across the field, the receiver gets off and you 1282 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 1: see him running out route, you see him running come back. 1283 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 1: You get to see him have that four route street 1284 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,480 Speaker 1: because he's not getting pressed. So I think there's simple 1285 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: ways to get it done. I'm no offensive coordinator, but 1286 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 1: I just haven't seen that be done for a twenty 1287 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: million dollars guy. And then you look at Amark Cooper 1288 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:07,920 Speaker 1: and he has the mind. I believe he has the 1289 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: mindset to where he wants to be one of those 1290 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,959 Speaker 1: top receivers. I mean, we look in the off season 1291 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 1: of last year, he came in saying, you know, I 1292 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: believe I have the skill set to be a top 1293 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 1: three receiver or one of the top receivers International Football League. 1294 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: He came out halfway through the season, I'm not getting 1295 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 1: the ball enough. I can help this team win if 1296 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 1: you give me the ball. And we know his type 1297 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: of personality, he's not allowed. You know, he's kind of 1298 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: the opposite. You know, if dz Bran nothing against Daz. 1299 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: He was a passionate guy about about football and about 1300 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: getting the ball and helping his team win. Amark Cooper 1301 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,720 Speaker 1: I think is just as passionate, just in a different way. 1302 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:39,960 Speaker 1: He's not as vocal as a Daz Brand. But we 1303 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 1: had him midway through the season. I need to get 1304 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: the ball. I can help this offense win. So if 1305 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: we do decide to bring you know, Mark Cooper back 1306 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,840 Speaker 1: for this offense, hopefully they feature him. Hopefully he's able 1307 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 1: to get those targets and get those passes that a 1308 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 1: lot of the top receivers have out there, and if 1309 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 1: he's able to do that, maybe he can turn it 1310 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: into one of the best seasons as a receiver. But 1311 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: if we just use him as you know, a scheme 1312 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,360 Speaker 1: guy or you know, hey, he just draw some stuff up, 1313 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,040 Speaker 1: he might be open there, he might not be open. 1314 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Then twenty millions just too much for me. This this 1315 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: is why guys like Cedric Wilson and the orb around 1316 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,919 Speaker 1: can get open because you just drawn up, just drawn 1317 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,240 Speaker 1: up to play, and we gonna hit the guy that's open. Okay, 1318 01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: they playing cover of three, so this is not gonna 1319 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 1: be open. So make sure you hit this dude. Nah manna, sir. 1320 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,919 Speaker 1: The dude I want to beginning opens a mark upers 1321 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: so they running cover of three. The dude who is 1322 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: running running whatever route for the weakness of cover three whatever, 1323 01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,320 Speaker 1: trying to he is a mark up, is gonna be 1324 01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: that guy. So yeah, I just yeah, but I think 1325 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: he has a skill set to do it. But it 1326 01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: depends on how you are going to use use the guy. 1327 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 1: All right, Well, so we talked about the offensive and 1328 01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:44,840 Speaker 1: now I was going on the defensive side of the football. 1329 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: And another guy that you know, he's still under contract, 1330 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:48,880 Speaker 1: but you know there's a lot of reports going around. 1331 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,960 Speaker 1: Will he be here, will he not be here? And 1332 01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: that's the Marcus Lawrence. Now we saw, you know, early 1333 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 1: on in his career, he had those two back to 1334 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: back seasons where I think he had eighteen or seventeen 1335 01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: sacks on this franchise. Tags got the big deal. It's 1336 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,680 Speaker 1: still a hell of a player, but we just haven't 1337 01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,320 Speaker 1: seen the numbers as much as you know back before 1338 01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: he had gotten the contract. Now, a lot of that 1339 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: had to do his injuries. I mean, I know he 1340 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,200 Speaker 1: was injured lash here this year. He had went through 1341 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: some things, missed eight games I believed to a broken foot. 1342 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,600 Speaker 1: But when he came back, he was bawling. I mean, 1343 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 1: he had a couple of sacks, a lot of forced fumbles. 1344 01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: He was just a terror out there as far as 1345 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: a defensive player. Now, his numbers might not indicate that 1346 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 1: he's not in the double digit sacks or anything like that, 1347 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: but the guy was distructive out there. Do you think 1348 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: he similar situation to Mark Cooper high price tag? Do 1349 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: you think he is warranted that high price tag and 1350 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: coming back? I think his is different than the Mark 1351 01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: Cooper's because dan Quinn is a defensive coordinator and I 1352 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: think if if you had the Marcus Lawrence for the 1353 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,720 Speaker 1: full season and he was healthy, I think you would 1354 01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: have solved those type of numbers even if it wasn't 1355 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen sacks, you would have said that the offensive 1356 01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 1: line they have to come up with a game plan 1357 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,479 Speaker 1: to make sure that they know where where the Marcus 1358 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: Lawrence is. It Also, also the secondary is getting better 1359 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,280 Speaker 1: and what we know, russe and cover worked together. Okay, 1360 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:08,880 Speaker 1: if you got a secondary who's taking the ball away, 1361 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: they're given the D line that extra half a second 1362 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback, then the D line is 1363 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: going to to be more productive. They're gonna be able 1364 01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,880 Speaker 1: to get those sacks, get those those hands up so 1365 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 1: they can get some of those interceptions. And we saw 1366 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: that throughout the season without the Marcus Lawrence there. And 1367 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,640 Speaker 1: we know the type of talent that the Marcus Lawrence is. 1368 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: So I'm saying give him a full year with with 1369 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,560 Speaker 1: with DQ and AID and then see what happens, because 1370 01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 1: I think if the dude is healthy, I think he's 1371 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 1: gonna get back to that form of like, hey man, 1372 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: this dude is a monster. He's he's a force to 1373 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,080 Speaker 1: be reckoned with. Now he has I'm not sure sure 1374 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,640 Speaker 1: the number on the price, but I know it's high. High. 1375 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 1: Russias are high. The franchise thing for it's up there. 1376 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 1: Hopefully they bring you know, if you can bring back 1377 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: both back, hopefully. But I leaned towards the Marcus Lawrence. 1378 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 1: I'd rather bring him back than in the Mark Coover, 1379 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: just because the simple fact that, like you said, the coordinators, 1380 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: then Quinn's gonna find a way to get de Marcus 1381 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Lawrence productive out there, and if he's not out there 1382 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: putting up crazy numbers, he's at least opening things up 1383 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,680 Speaker 1: for other people along the defensive line. The Galamore is 1384 01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,360 Speaker 1: the o Diggy zooas the Randy Gregory's to have one 1385 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,800 Speaker 1: on ones out there. Parsons as well. He benefits off 1386 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 1: of the Marcus Lawrence being out there so he can 1387 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,080 Speaker 1: have the one on one. So I'm definitely with bringing 1388 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence back, even though it's gonna be a 1389 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: high cap hit and at least letting him go out 1390 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: there improve he's worth that value rather than just saying 1391 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: all right, man, you know, thanks, thanks for your business, 1392 01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,360 Speaker 1: but it's trying to walk on so I wouldn't want 1393 01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 1: to do that. So I'm in the business of keeping 1394 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,400 Speaker 1: the Marcus Lawrence when it comes to Mary Cooper, I 1395 01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 1: don't know kind of fifty fifty because I'm nervous or 1396 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,520 Speaker 1: what that that wide receiver corps is gonna look out 1397 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,520 Speaker 1: without him. But with that high cap number and him 1398 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 1: not getting the targets or the attempts or the or 1399 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,160 Speaker 1: the catches that he needs to kind of fulfill that number, 1400 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: it's got me a little nervous. So I'm leaning towards 1401 01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: d Law over over Mark Cooper on this one. Yeah, 1402 01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 1: same here, same here. I'm with you, man, just you know, 1403 01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 1: shout out and killing helping guys out, bro attempt to 1404 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: because because next week we have to have the same 1405 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: conversation about Zeke, Like it's gonna be there, right because 1406 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: now you've got TP, you got Zeke. You want to 1407 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,280 Speaker 1: find out like what he still has left and all 1408 01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: other stuff. And I don't think the conversation should even 1409 01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,200 Speaker 1: have to be had if you do the correct thing 1410 01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: with the guy. All right, he's not an Alvakamar. That's 1411 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:17,520 Speaker 1: not that's not it's not the type of guy that 1412 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 1: he is going to be. But we know his skill set, 1413 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 1: we know what he can do, and we and we 1414 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,760 Speaker 1: saw it this season. We saw it this season when 1415 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,080 Speaker 1: you gave him the opportunity, especially before he got hurt. 1416 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: And then you know, it just kind of feels it 1417 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: out like Mark Cooper makes the noise they gave him, 1418 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,320 Speaker 1: gave me the ball, win game. It was a lot 1419 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,320 Speaker 1: of out routes here here you go, all right, get out, 1420 01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:39,800 Speaker 1: get out of here. Let me throw the said. I'm 1421 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: going to say, my bad, should bad man. You approved 1422 01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,040 Speaker 1: me all the way wrong. But all right, man, it's 1423 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 1: it's eleven oh four. Our time has come to an 1424 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: end a lot longer than I thought we would. Go. 1425 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: Um shout out to Will McClay for definitely stopping by 1426 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 1: the Player's Lounge and giving us his two cents on 1427 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: on his role in the offseason and how he evaluate 1428 01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 1: it's players. Once again, I'm your average box safety Barry 1429 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,040 Speaker 1: Church brought here with my boy. I'm all over the place. 1430 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 1: You know, Oh, you're an apology or an apology because 1431 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 1: this is it's it's a little bang bang like it's 1432 01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 1: a little harder than it looks. But I'm here with 1433 01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,960 Speaker 1: my boy, Danny mccraie, the ultimate survivor. This has been 1434 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: the Players Lounge, brought to you by Hotels dot Com. 1435 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: We're here at the s WBC Studio. We will see 1436 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 1: you next Monday, ten am, right ten ten am. We'll 1437 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 1: see you next Monday at ten am. Thanks for listening. 1438 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 1439 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.