1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Good morning. 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 3: I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here are the 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 3: stories we're following today. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Karen, we begin with the latest efforts to end the 6 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 2: war in Ukraine. President Trump says he has agreed to 7 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: start negotiations to end the conflict in a phone call 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Here was the President, as 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: heard on Bloomberg Radio. 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 4: I'll be dealing with President Putin largely on the phone, 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 4: and we ultimately expect to meet. In fact, we expect 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,639 Speaker 4: that he'll come here and I'll go there, and we're 13 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 4: going to meet also probably in Saudi Arabia, the first 14 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 4: time we'll meet in Saudi Arabia. Se if we get 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 4: something done, but we want to end that war. That 16 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 4: war is a disaster now. 17 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Critics say President Trump is sweeping aside three years of 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 2: US policy with this call, in blind siding European allies. 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth says Trump's call with Putin is 20 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: not a betrayal. 21 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 5: Certainly not a betrayal. 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: As I said to our allies yesterday, we recognized the 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: incredible commitment that has been made over many years, and 24 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: no country, as the President Trump has pointed out, has 25 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: many larger commitment. 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 2: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth spoke earlier in Brussels. 27 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, Nathan, the President's effort to shrink this size the 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: federal government continues, but is so called buyout offered to 29 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 3: federal workers has fallen short, and Bloomberg's John Tucker joins 30 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 3: us this morning with the details. 31 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: John, good morning, Yeah, good morning, Karen. 32 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 6: Only seventy five thousand federal employees signed up for the 33 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 6: voluntary resignation program, so that makes up about three percent 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 6: of the civilian federal workforce. The White House had previously 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 6: set the goal at five to ten percent. Well, this 36 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 6: now increases the likelihood of deeper mass firings. 37 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 4: You know. 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 6: An executive order signed earlier this week, as Elon Musk 39 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 6: stood alongside him, President Trump ordered agency heads to promptly 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 6: undertake preparations to initiate large scale reductions in forces. Has 41 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 6: been the driving force behind the effort to reduce the 42 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 6: size of government through a so called Department of Government Efficiency, 43 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 6: and he just spoke about the effort at the annual 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 6: World Government Summit. 45 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 5: It's kind of like if they're leaving a weed. 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 7: If you don't remove the roots of the weed, then 47 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 7: it's easy for the weed to grow back. But if 48 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 7: you remove the reach roots of. 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 5: The weed, it doesn't stop weeds from ever going back, 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 5: but it makes it harder. 51 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 6: A US district judge in Boston did clear the way 52 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 6: for the buyouts of the federal workers, ruling yesterday that 53 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 6: their unions don't have legal standing to sue. You knoww 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 6: York on John Tucker Bloomberg Radio. 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 5: Thanks John. 56 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: While the President moves ahead with shrinking the government, one 57 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 2: major move is on hold for now. A federal judge 58 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: in Washington, DC has blocked the president from removing the 59 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: head of the independent agency that protects government whistleblowers. The 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 2: administration did not give a reason for firing Hampton Dellinger 61 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 2: as head of the Office of Special Counsel, but in 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 2: a temporary restraining order, US District Judge Amy Berman Jackson 63 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: said the move plainly goes against US law. The Justice 64 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: Department says. 65 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 5: It will appeal later today, Nathan. 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: The Senate is set to vote on confirming Robert F. 67 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: Kennedy Junior as Secretary of Health and Human Services. The 68 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 3: seventy one year old is expected to pass through the 69 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 3: full Senate despite concerns some Republicans have raised about his 70 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 3: views on vaccines, but Republican Senator and doctor Bill Cassidy 71 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: says his worries have been put to rest. 72 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 5: Mister Kennedy and. 73 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 2: The administration reached out seeking to reassure me regarding their 74 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 2: commitment to protecting the public health benefit of vaccination. 75 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: Senator Cassidy spoken the Senate floor last week. 76 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 8: Robert F. 77 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: Kennedy, Junior's confirmation would place him in charge of one 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: point seven trillion dollars in spending on vaccines, food safety, 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: and government health insurance programs ILL. 80 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Karen Telsey Gabbert has been sworn in as Director 81 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: of National Intelligence after she won Senate confirmation in a 82 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: mostly party line vote. Gabbart is promising to get right 83 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 2: to work. 84 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 9: Unfortunately, the America and people have very little trust in 85 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 9: the intelligence community, largely because they've seen the weaponization and 86 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 9: politicization of an entity that is supposed to be purely 87 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 9: focused on ensuring our national security. 88 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: Tulsea Gabbert didn't specify how US intelligence has been weaponized 89 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 2: or what changes she might make. Her office also says 90 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: she plans to attend the Munich Security Conference this weekend. 91 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: We turned to the markets now, Nathan and earnings are 92 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 3: in focus this morning. In Europe, shares of Barclays or 93 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: down five percent. The British bank's results did beat estimates, 94 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: but the firm leftist guidance for next year unchanged. Barclay's 95 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 3: CEO cs VN Kada Krishnan says he expects to benefit 96 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 3: from a loosening of UK regulations. 97 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 7: I expect that you will see some rebalancing, but you know, 98 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 7: I should say that we want the rebalancing in the 99 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 7: context of strongly regulated markets. 100 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 5: We think all the major. 101 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 7: Banks as included a good a of a well regulated 102 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 7: financial system. It's what makes London great and so there 103 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 7: should be some rebalancing, but in the context of a 104 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 7: well regulated financial system. 105 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: Barclay CEO cs and Katakrishnan says traders turned in their 106 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: best fourth quarter performance in at least a decade. As 107 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: President Trump's election spurred volatility across asset classes. 108 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 2: In Asia, Cairen, shares of Ali Baba gained almost three percent. 109 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: The e Commerce Giants chairman Joe Sai has confirmed Apple's 110 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: iPhones will use his firm's AI technology. China is Apple's 111 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: most important market after the US. It's the biggest market 112 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: in the world for smartphones, computing, and artificial intelligence. 113 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: We'll back here on the US. Nathan shares of Cisco 114 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: searching more than six percent, the country's largest seller of 115 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: networking gear, gave an up eat sales forecast for the 116 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: current quarter. Cisco was held by companies spending more on 117 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: infrastructure to take advantage of AI technology. 118 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: On the flip side, care and shares of Reddit are 119 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: down fourteen and a half percent. User growth at the 120 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: social netw working platform missed Wall Street estimates for the 121 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Reddit's blaming a change in Google's algorithm that 122 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 2: impacted search traffic. Now, despite this morning's law says Reddit 123 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 2: stock has increased more than sixfold since it went public 124 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 2: last March. 125 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 3: And finally, Nathan's officially over. Honda and Nissan have formally 126 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 3: ended negotiations to combine. It brings a swift end to 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 3: a partnership that would have created one of the world's 128 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: biggest automakers. Still, both companies say they will continue their 129 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,679 Speaker 3: strategic partnership with Mitsubishi and collaborate on in house development 130 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 3: of batteries, autonomous driving software and electric vehicle technology. Time 131 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 3: now for a look at some of the other stories 132 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: making news in New York and around the world, and 133 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 134 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 10: Michael, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. The Trump administration is 135 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 10: suing New York over a twenty nineteen law that allows 136 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 10: undocumented immigrants to obtain state identification while shielding their data 137 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 10: from federal authorities. The lawsuit seeks to overturn the green 138 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 10: light law that prohibit police officers during traffic stops to 139 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 10: ask for immigration status. Attorney General Pam Bondi. 140 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 11: New York has chosen to prioritize illegal aliens over American citizens. 141 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 5: It stops, It stops today. 142 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 10: New York Governor Kathy Hokul and Attorney General Letitia James 143 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 10: have responded, defending the law and accusing the Trump administration 144 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 10: of seeking to access New Yorker's data without a judicial warrant. 145 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 10: New York Mayor Eric Adams is facing pushback over a 146 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 10: planned visit today with Trump Borderzar Tom Homan. City and 147 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 10: union leaders are accusing the mayor of selling out to 148 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 10: get his corruption case dismissed by Trump's Justice Department. A 149 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 10: recent directive from the mayor instructs municipal employees to allow 150 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 10: ice agents into city buildings if they fear for their safety. 151 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 10: Mayor Adams, during a city event, is standing by his work. 152 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 12: Look at what I have done, how I have recovered 153 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 12: the city, how we have for the safety of everyone 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 12: in our care. There's nothing going to change with that. 155 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 12: There's a level of consistency that we have accomplished. 156 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 11: Are we going to continue to do that? 157 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 10: Meanwhile, Mayor Adams is reportedly exploring the idea of possibly 158 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 10: running in the spring Republican primary. The New York Times reports, 159 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 10: according to a GOP official, Adams, a Democrat, has privately 160 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 10: weighed for weeks whether to change is party affiliation or 161 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 10: seek a waiver to run in both the Democratic and 162 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 10: Republican primaries. In Washington, d C, parents, educators, community leaders, 163 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 10: and elected officials gathered on the Capitol grounds to protest 164 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 10: Department of Education cuts proposed by President Trump. They also 165 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 10: protested student civil rights protections that have been curtailed or 166 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 10: eliminated by Trump's executive orders. Global News twenty four hours 167 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 10: a day and whenever you want it with the Bloomberg News. Now, 168 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 10: I'm Michael Barn. 169 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 3: This is Karen, Sorry Nuncle Barn. 170 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 13: Thank you. 171 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: Time now for the Bloombergy sportes ut Day, brought to 172 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: you by Try straight Out EA. Here's John Stashauer. John, 173 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: Good morning, Good morning, Karen Nixon. 174 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 8: Hawks at the Garden, last game before the All Star 175 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 8: very high scoring affair that went to overtime and saw 176 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 8: Atlanta have a late lead. 177 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 11: Hawks lead by one twenty second Formado. 178 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 5: The shot clock is all. 179 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 11: Luck shit defended by Daniels lunch Shitty puts it up. 180 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 11: What forty nine los forty eight we e eleven second 181 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 11: Svader that. 182 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 8: Was the final MSG had the colla. Jalen Bruns in 183 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 8: the last of his thirty six points. Karl Anthony Towns 184 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 8: the night after scoring forty in the win at Indiana, 185 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 8: scored forty four. He made seven of ten three pointers 186 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 8: twenty six points for Precious at two and nets. Also 187 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 8: at homebye Philadelphia one hundred and ninety six. That's have 188 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 8: won three straight six and seven. Only loss was last 189 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 8: week Washington, the worst team in the league. In Boston, 190 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 8: Celtics fete the Spurs. Jason Tatum scored thirty two. He 191 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 8: has scored over one hundred points over his last three games. 192 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 8: Saint John's a top the Big East, but the Red 193 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 8: Storm's ten game winning streat came to an end. Villanova's 194 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,439 Speaker 8: Tyler Perkins a three to four with eight seconds left. 195 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 8: The Wildcats won seventy three seventy one duke twenty seven 196 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 8: from star freshman Cooper Flag and easy win over cal 197 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 8: Quia start to the Four Nation Faceoff, the round robin 198 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 8: event that has replaced the NHL All Star Game. In Montreal, 199 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 8: and Nathan McKinnon scored in the opening minute. Canada led 200 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 8: three to one. Third period, Sweden rallied the tie. Toronto's 201 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 8: Mitch Marner scored six minutes into overtime. Canada won four 202 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 8: to three. Sidney Crosby assisted on the game winner, was 203 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 8: his third assist of the night. Also in Montreal, tonight, 204 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 8: it's the US against Finland. It took until the start 205 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 8: of spring training, but free agent infielder Alex Bregman has 206 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 8: a deal. After nine years playing third base for Houston, 207 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 8: Reregman is going to the Red Socks, where they already 208 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 8: have an All Star third baseman, Rafield Devers. The plan 209 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 8: is for Bregman to play second. He agreed to three years, 210 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 8: one hundred and twenty million, John Stasheward, Bloomberg Sports, Karen Nathan. 211 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 7: Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, and. 212 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 8: Around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the Bloomberg 213 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 8: Business app. 214 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 5: This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 215 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 10: Good morning. I'm Nathan Hager. 216 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: President Donald Trump is reversing three years of US policy 217 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: on the war in Ukraine in a phone call with 218 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: Russian President Vladimir Putin. President says he has agreed to 219 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 2: begin negotiating an end to the war with Russia's leader, 220 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: and it's left European allies reeling, but Trump says it'll 221 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: all work out. 222 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 4: I think we're on the way to getting peace. I 223 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: think President Putin wants peace and President Zelenski wants peace. 224 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: And that was the President speaking from the Oval Office. 225 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: Let's bring in Bloomberg News Senior editor Bill Ferries for 226 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,719 Speaker 2: war on this. Of course, Bill, there had been speculation 227 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 2: almost from the time President Trump was inaugurated that there 228 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: may be some kind of call between himself and the 229 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 2: Russian president. Now it seems to be unfolding in a 230 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: way that is really worrying European allies. 231 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 13: Now good morning, Good morning, Nathan. Yeah, that's exactly right. 232 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 13: President Trump announcing that he had this call that wasn't 233 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 13: scheduled in advanced publicly at least, that he had this 234 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 13: call with Vladimir Putin. 235 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 5: He announced it on social media. 236 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 13: Of course, there's a lot of European leaders and defense 237 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 13: officials gathered in Munich for a security conference. They were 238 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 13: all taken very much by surprise. In the past, in 239 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 13: these kind of situations, a US president would often reach 240 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 13: out to the allies to talk to. 241 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 5: Them, consult with them ahead of a call like that. 242 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 13: But President Trump coming out and saying that he and 243 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 13: Vladimir Putin agreed to begin peace talks over the conflict 244 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 13: in Ukraine. He's assigned a team that includes Secretary of 245 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 13: State Marco Rubio and Director of the CIA John Ratcliffe 246 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 13: to begin some of those talks. And then he said 247 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 13: that he would be calling Ukrainian President Baltimore Zelenski to 248 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 13: inform him of the call, so letting the world know, 249 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 13: and then calling Zelenski to talk to him about the 250 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 13: substance of the conversation. So very a big change from 251 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 13: previous administration and from the European policy of no talks 252 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 13: about Ukraine without Ukraine. 253 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 5: So we'll see where this goes. 254 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 13: But Europe definitely reeling from this latest move by the 255 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 13: Trump administration. 256 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 2: And to that point, Bill, from the comments that we've 257 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:37,319 Speaker 2: heard from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth about Ukraine's aspiration to 258 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: join NATO being unrealistic and the pre twenty fourteen borders 259 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 2: not being realistic as well, it seems like the beginning 260 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: of the negotiating position for Ukraine is pretty difficult. 261 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. 262 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 13: I think that's been the criticism of this very public approach, 263 00:13:56,240 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 13: with Defense Secretary Hegseth saying Ukraine's members in NATO's not 264 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 13: a realistic goal, and then as you mentioned, saying that 265 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 13: basically going back to a pre twenty fourteen world, which 266 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 13: is when Russian troops invaded and took over Ukrainian Crimea, 267 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 13: saying that that's really not going to be probably part 268 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 13: of it, so immediately suggesting that Russia will probably get 269 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 13: to hold on to quite a bit of territory. So 270 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 13: I think a lot of people are seeing that is 271 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 13: perhaps undercutting Ukraine's position. Ukraine does have a swath or 272 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 13: a small piece of Russia as well, so there's a 273 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 13: potential talk about trading territory for territory, but it's definitely, 274 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 13: you know, it's perhaps not surprising, a very different approach 275 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 13: from what we've seen the last three years from the US. 276 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 2: And obviously we're seeing a very different approach when it 277 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: comes to the federal government. Back in Washington, the President 278 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: determined to shrink the size of the federal workforce. It 279 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: seems like this buyout has fallen short of the White 280 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: House goals in our last minute bill. What does that 281 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: mean potentially for federal employees who didn't take the deferred 282 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: resignation offer. 283 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: Well, leaves them in a lot of uncertainty. 284 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 13: It looks like about seventy five thousand federal employees did 285 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 13: opt in for this voluntary resignation program to get paid 286 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 13: through September. That is perhaps about three percent of the 287 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 13: civilian federal workforce. The White House wanted something more like 288 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 13: five to ten percent. There are reports out there in 289 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 13: Washington Post New York Times about some agencies like GSA 290 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 13: already starting to notify some workers of layoffs. We'll have 291 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 13: to see how far they're able to go. 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