Speaker 1: Comedy Saved Me. Welcome to Comedy Save Me.
Speaker 2: I am Lynn Hoffman, And before we get started swelling,
Speaker 2: you know, I host another show called Music Save Me,
Speaker 2: which is very similar to Comedy Save Me, sort of
Speaker 2: like a franchise, which is a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I talk to musicians about the healing.
Speaker 2: Power of music, much like I talked to great comedians
Speaker 2: about the healing power of comedy. Now today's guest has
Speaker 2: made a career out of finding the funny in life's
Speaker 2: most uncomfortable truths, and she does it brilliantly. She is
Speaker 2: a stand up comedian, a writer, an actor, a podcast
Speaker 2: host whose credits include NPR, HBO, Comedy Central, The Moth, CBS,
Speaker 2: and iHeart. And when she's not that busy, she headlines
Speaker 2: theaters and comedy venues around the world and tours regularly
Speaker 2: with The Moth mainstage. She's one of the sharpest, most
Speaker 2: compelling voices in comedy today, and now she has a
Speaker 2: brand new comedy special because she just wants to canti
Speaker 2: iuld do herself. I used to be nicer, which I
Speaker 2: think I need on my T shirt right now. We
Speaker 2: gotta make T shirts. And the best part is produced
Speaker 2: by the legendary Lewis Black, who I've had on this
Speaker 2: podcast before.
Speaker 1: I can't even wait to get into this with you.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, thank you, Oh my goodness, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: It's my pleasure. Oh, Fira Eisenberg, I should say her name.
Speaker 2: She is here and we're gonna find out when we
Speaker 2: come back why she used to be nicer. Coming up
Speaker 2: next on Comedy Save Me, You're gonna want to miss
Speaker 2: not gonna want to miss it? Did I just say
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to miss this?
Speaker 3: Do to me?
Speaker 1: I can believe on making you laugh? Comedy Saved Me.
Speaker 1: Oh Fira, welcome to Comedy Safe.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks. I think when someone goes like like you
Speaker 3: just made that hell, I mean it's hilarious. We should
Speaker 3: always be saying this, you're gonna want to miss this? Uh,
Speaker 3: there is no limited time on this love it when
Speaker 3: hurry up, hurry up. There's a there's a very standard
Speaker 3: thing that a lot of comics you'll hear say at
Speaker 3: the Animal show, where they go, you know, you've been great,
Speaker 3: I have to go, Thank you so much. And I
Speaker 3: know a comic that always says I've been great, you
Speaker 3: have to go. I just any reversal of that stuff
Speaker 3: I love.
Speaker 2: Or it's like, enough about me, let's talk about me exactly,
Speaker 2: exactly exactly. Oh, my God ofire the title of your
Speaker 2: new special. I absolutely love I Used to be Nicer.
Speaker 2: It feels like it carries a whole life philosophy in
Speaker 2: four little words. When did you stop being nicer? And
Speaker 2: was comedy a part of what gave you permission to
Speaker 2: do that? I said, definitely, I mean definitely.
Speaker 3: I think it's a better place to do it than
Speaker 3: in the real world, because in the real world there
Speaker 3: might be repercussions. But I just feel, you know, it's
Speaker 3: a little bit of everything. It's a little bit of
Speaker 3: you know, just expertise. As life, life, sex, life situations
Speaker 3: pile up on you. You know, you're a little good way.
Speaker 3: You put more boundaries on things. You're a little bit
Speaker 3: a little bit more into, you know, limitations, and you
Speaker 3: let people know if you are not up. I'm not
Speaker 3: a pushover as much anymore. But and then as a woman,
Speaker 3: I'm a people pleaser. So it's slowly working out of that.
Speaker 3: But also, you know, I grew up in Canada, so
Speaker 3: for years and years and years and years, even to
Speaker 3: this day, I'll talk to someone I barely know, and
Speaker 3: then maybe somehow it comes up. I go, I, you know,
Speaker 3: grew up in Canada, and they go, oh, you're Canadian,
Speaker 3: that's why you're so nice.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, uh huh.
Speaker 3: And I always like to say, well, you know what,
Speaker 3: I've lived in New York for twenty years, I'm a
Speaker 3: parent to a small child, and I am a woman
Speaker 3: working in comedy. Let me tell you something. You should
Speaker 3: have met me ten years ago because I used to
Speaker 3: be nicer. That's the person you want to talk to
Speaker 3: now now. Yeah, I mean, but everyone still goes, oh,
Speaker 3: my goodness, affair, you're still really nice. So I guess
Speaker 3: you can't shaken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you are underneath it all.
Speaker 2: And definitely that was a great way to describe it,
Speaker 2: because yeah, it's it's it gets harder and harder, but
Speaker 2: being a people pleaser is definitely something got it started
Speaker 2: in I think women in general.
Speaker 3: Yes, and you know what, and I the wellness community,
Speaker 3: which part of it I love, of course, who's in
Speaker 3: love doing things that are nice to yourself, But part
Speaker 3: of it I really hate, and it's all at women,
Speaker 3: like people who put positive affirmations. I mean, I get it.
Speaker 3: We should all be positive but I just feel like
Speaker 3: it's everyone's telling us like, hey, ladies, you know, basically
Speaker 3: like manifest your success. Come on, no one, no one's
Speaker 3: gonna give you anything. Don't worry if you didn't get
Speaker 3: that promotion, it's not it's not our fault, it's your fault.
Speaker 3: So I also am just like, oh, I'm not nice
Speaker 3: about that stuff. I'm not nice of positivity. I'm not
Speaker 3: nice about any of it.
Speaker 2: But no, and this definitely describes a little bit of
Speaker 2: wh you worked so beautifully with Lewis Black.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that. Oh yeah, because I can hear
Speaker 1: the similarities already.
Speaker 3: We have.
Speaker 2: We asked every guest who comes on comedy save me
Speaker 2: how comedy saved them, and I'll post the question.
Speaker 1: Was there a specific moment in.
Speaker 2: Your life Ofirah when you realize that humor wasn't just entertainment,
Speaker 2: it was literally survival?
Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely, I mean so, this is a little anecdote
Speaker 3: that I love. I was part of a women's networking
Speaker 3: event where I was actually performing. I was performing at it,
Speaker 3: but the way it was set up, they wanted all
Speaker 3: of us to have dinner together, so I was having
Speaker 3: I was at a table with a bunch of women
Speaker 3: from different professions. I did not know, but it was
Speaker 3: weird because I was the one person that was part
Speaker 3: of the show. But We're all going around saying what
Speaker 3: we do, and I'm like, oh, I'm a stand up
Speaker 3: I'm actually performing later, And of course a very standard
Speaker 3: question is immediately posed to me, where someone says, oh,
Speaker 3: why did you get into stand up comedy? And I've
Speaker 3: always wished lynn that I had a fun, snappy, little
Speaker 3: SoundBite answer like, oh, my uncle was hilarious and I
Speaker 3: idolized him, or you know, I used to I was
Speaker 3: the class clown, and so it just carried over. But
Speaker 3: none of those things ring true to me. So I
Speaker 3: just sat there and I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: the day or I was tired or whatever, but I
Speaker 3: just took a deep breath and I said, why did
Speaker 3: I start comedy? Childhood trauma?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: And everyone had a quick laugh. And then the woman
Speaker 3: beside me said, it's kind of why I became a lawyer,
Speaker 3: and the next woman said, I feel like that's why
Speaker 3: I became a doula, and the next woman said, I
Speaker 3: think that's why I got into medicine. And everyone was
Speaker 3: linked to the fact that they pursued with passion where
Speaker 3: they are, you know, just because of something. You know
Speaker 3: in a good way that they took a traumatic situation
Speaker 3: that they had to deal with and they have turned
Speaker 3: it into their pas So I mean, I feel like
Speaker 3: we're all saving our lives with whatever our passion is.
Speaker 3: But comedy is such a clear line because that is
Speaker 3: about reframing it and owning it. And you know, I
Speaker 3: was in a terrible car accident when I was a kid.
Speaker 3: I suffered. I suffered, and you know, it's twelve years now,
Speaker 3: so I am on the other side of it, hopefully
Speaker 3: forever breast cancer. But I have talked about this stuff
Speaker 3: as the years have gone by. I have worked it
Speaker 3: into storytelling, solo show, a lot of funny stuff, a
Speaker 3: lot of poignant stuff, but a lot of funny stuff
Speaker 3: because that is my way of owning it. And also,
Speaker 3: you just find that once you tell your audience I
Speaker 3: was vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Things have happened.
Speaker 3: I got through it. I figured this out. I figured
Speaker 3: it gives them permission to not feel so bad about
Speaker 3: themselves from whatever they've gone through. And that's that's when
Speaker 3: I feel like we all join. Like when I can
Speaker 3: and I'm telling you this because I'm okay. It almost
Speaker 3: gives other people permission to go, oh maybe I'm okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, permission to laugh not only check your issues and
Speaker 2: trauma from your you know, but permission to laugh at
Speaker 2: themselves absolutely their situation.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, it's just that step back, you know, it's
Speaker 3: just that step back because of course, when you tell
Speaker 3: a story about yourself, or you do any art with
Speaker 3: something that is personal from your memoir, you're not telling
Speaker 3: the whole story. You're telling a portion of it. And
Speaker 3: to do that means that you're creating a lens, a
Speaker 3: lens a specific and that is starting to craft it.
Speaker 3: So that takes you a step back. And then all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you know, you're crafting your story. And
Speaker 3: I think we kind of throw that around in a
Speaker 3: therapy way, like the be the owner of your story,
Speaker 3: be the one that you are writing your story. But
Speaker 3: have you ever done it? Have you ever actually written
Speaker 3: your story? It's different than the actual story. Is now
Speaker 3: your story, just in the same way that if a
Speaker 3: friend of were to write a story about you, it
Speaker 3: would be like their story of you. So it's it's
Speaker 3: it's that's when I think it's artistry it's not therapy,
Speaker 3: it's not live, it's not live processing it is actually art.
Speaker 2: Sure is you've built a career out of some really
Speaker 2: raw personal material, And you mentioned scars, relationships, like the
Speaker 2: messiness of real life kind of what you were just discussing.
Speaker 2: Where's the line for you between processing something very private
Speaker 2: and personal and then deciding that it belongs on stage
Speaker 2: because I'm sure there are certain things that you will
Speaker 2: not bring forward or maybe you'll.
Speaker 3: Bring yeah, you know, I mean, you're right. So one
Speaker 3: just a major touch point is I just like the
Speaker 3: only person that I should be taking down on stage
Speaker 3: is myself, Like I don't want to make fun or
Speaker 3: punch down on anyone else. I think there's probably a
Speaker 3: few exceptions where someone might deserve it, but that's not
Speaker 3: really what I'm doing. And then sometimes the rawness if
Speaker 3: I'm if things are still very painful, that means more
Speaker 3: time has to happen, because hindsight is real and you
Speaker 3: have to get to the point where you own it.
Speaker 3: And I have been on stages where you are watched
Speaker 3: or at shows where you're watching someone kind of process
Speaker 3: stuff in real time, and like that thing that I
Speaker 3: said where I feel like you have to stand there
Speaker 3: and be tell people I'm okay. The fact that I'm
Speaker 3: here it means I'm I'm somewhere on the other side
Speaker 3: of this is so important. So because you want your
Speaker 3: audience to relax, you don't want them the whole time
Speaker 3: to be anxious, like is this person okay, that's not
Speaker 3: the hack I'm doing. That is not the end. She
Speaker 3: can dive off, she can freak out. So but sometimes
Speaker 3: I just it's once you know, if you're on stage,
Speaker 3: you've decided where the ending is. So in some ways,
Speaker 3: let's say a story about a bad breakup or a
Speaker 3: divorce like that could be something you're dealing with for
Speaker 3: a long time, depending on who you are. That's because
Speaker 3: something that maybe some people are twenty years past this
Speaker 3: and they're still working through it. But again, to put
Speaker 3: it on in the act is like you have to
Speaker 3: decide where the end is. So you put a finish
Speaker 3: line and you go, this is where this ends. And
Speaker 3: that's when I think it's fit for stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you just said the hindsight, and it's so
Speaker 2: weird that that keeps coming up. Yeah, in my life, like,
Speaker 2: hindsight is twenty twenty. Hindsight is twenty twenty all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, Oh my god, hindsight is twenty twenty. Hello,
Speaker 2: It's like that's where you grow and learn from and
Speaker 2: you can actually turn that into comedy and then help
Speaker 2: other people figure out their hindsight and what the patterns
Speaker 2: are because I'm convinced everything's a pattern. Now everything's a pattern. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you have to control the bat. But that's just
Speaker 2: the magical part of comedy is that that you're able
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just people come up to you afterwards and
Speaker 3: say interesting things to you, like, oh, maybe I have
Speaker 3: a story, you know, where I talk about some you know,
Speaker 3: medical stuff I've been through, like as I mentioned, like
Speaker 3: a lot of illness and stuff. And at one point,
Speaker 3: I think I just had a very quick line about
Speaker 3: how everyone was telling me how strong I was, and
Speaker 3: I made jokes about that, but there was just a
Speaker 3: little line of and I felt like I was doing nothing,
Speaker 3: Like I didn't understand what I was doing to be
Speaker 3: so strong. I felt like I was doing nothing. And
Speaker 3: you would not believe the amount of people of all
Speaker 3: the things I said in that entire act came up
Speaker 3: to me afterwards and said, I've always you know, I
Speaker 3: have thought about that too. How people keep telling me
Speaker 3: how strong I am and I'm like, I'm not doing
Speaker 3: anything like I you know, and you just find different
Speaker 3: things resonate with people. And if you can allow yourself
Speaker 3: to maybe say the stuff in a craftful way that
Speaker 3: is not where you're the hero, where you were at
Speaker 3: your best, where you triumphed, but the truth of what
Speaker 3: happened and how you figured it out. That's when I
Speaker 3: feel like people, that's what I love when I see
Speaker 3: other people do that, and I feel like that's when
Speaker 3: you just feel everyone lean in and they're excited because
Speaker 3: they are like, yes, this is what I think about.
Speaker 2: Do you see the look in their face when you're
Speaker 2: performing to an audience when that moment happens, Can you see?
Speaker 3: Or maybe maybe one sometimes? Yeah, sometimes one on one
Speaker 3: is definitely easier. But sometimes when I'm in the middle
Speaker 3: of it, like I can't take in all that stimulus.
Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't even think of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's a it's a lot, yes it is.
Speaker 2: But when they all laugh, like I said, it's you know,
Speaker 2: immediately I had you chuckling.
Speaker 1: I wasn't even trying to be funny.
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, just just hack.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but you know, to make people laugh, especially comedians,
Speaker 2: but in general, I mean it has to be one
Speaker 2: of the most fulfilling feelings in the world or just
Speaker 2: healing for you too. Yeah, on the one giving the
Speaker 2: healing stuff is receiving, you know, And there's some things,
Speaker 2: especially with my new special, I have a bonus to it,
Speaker 2: which is a story that I do tell about, you know,
Speaker 2: the kind of post year of after my breast cancer.
Speaker 3: And it has a pretty edgy punchline to it, and
Speaker 3: I was I didn't do the story for a long
Speaker 3: time because I was pretty concerned that when I I
Speaker 3: wanted to tell this story so bad Lynn, you have
Speaker 3: no idea, but I was so worried that when I
Speaker 3: got to that punchline that the audience would not be
Speaker 3: happy with me. Ooh, and so I was pretty hesitant
Speaker 3: to get it out there. And I finally I did
Speaker 3: some one on ones with people, some comedians and some
Speaker 3: people that I know from the moth world to basically
Speaker 3: temperature test it. Yeah, test it, and they were like, no,
Speaker 3: it's okay, because you set this up and you set
Speaker 3: this up, and you set this up, and then I
Speaker 3: you know, then I had to do it on stage,
Speaker 3: and when that got a big, huge pop, it felt fantastic.
Speaker 3: It really felt very gratifying.
Speaker 1: And what special is this?
Speaker 3: Just so when people this is, yeah, so this is
Speaker 3: I used to be nicer. If you know, you can
Speaker 3: watch the special actually right now, you can actually also
Speaker 3: get it as an audio album. I think a lot
Speaker 3: of people like having audio albums. They like throwing stuff
Speaker 3: in their ears and doing their chores or going on
Speaker 3: jogs or listening to in your car so driving. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's available on all you know, Apple Music and
Speaker 3: YouTube Music and Amazon, all those places, and there's a
Speaker 3: bonus story. There's a bonus story. Uh. And that that
Speaker 3: one that.
Speaker 1: We were just kind of touching.
Speaker 3: That I don't want to give it away because it's
Speaker 3: a good team.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: No, No, I love that I do. And the reason
Speaker 2: why I asked which special because you get so many?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I do have a few. But even
Speaker 3: even when talking about parenting, I think when you know,
Speaker 3: of course they're is more comedy to be had when
Speaker 3: you criticize it, right, Because if I said I just
Speaker 3: love everything, Oh it's so easy and I'm wonderful at it,
Speaker 3: nobody cares nobody cares. But if I go, I don't
Speaker 3: like this, and this is why I don't like it,
Speaker 3: And you know what, this is not reaching my expectations.
Speaker 3: And this is how my kid was kind of crappy.
Speaker 3: You know. That's where people are feel relaxed and happy
Speaker 3: to laugh because they're just like, oh, it's not just me.
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I'm going through stuff too. Oh the
Speaker 3: guilt is gone, you know. Yeah, And that's not easy.
Speaker 3: That's not easy at all.
Speaker 2: And speaking of that Lewis Black produced, I used to
Speaker 2: be nicer. Yeah, I need to know what that collaboration
Speaker 2: was like, Like what does a legend like Lewis Black
Speaker 2: bring to the creative process of putting together a.
Speaker 1: Special and how did you get anything done with him?
Speaker 3: Oh? I mean, like, let's let's se his I mean
Speaker 3: he kind of most of his collaboration was really just
Speaker 3: support because he he knows what this is like. And
Speaker 3: so he and I met years ago as actually on
Speaker 3: that NPR show I used to host. I interviewed him
Speaker 3: for that live on stage, and he at the time
Speaker 3: had mentioned that he would be interested in maybe producing
Speaker 3: my comedy album because he was like, you're smart, you know.
Speaker 3: There was just some things that we live in the
Speaker 3: same world as and at the time I just really
Speaker 3: didn't know how to move forward with that. But then
Speaker 3: years later it came back around and I was talking
Speaker 3: to him about a totally different project and he said,
Speaker 3: you want to still do that comedy special and I
Speaker 3: was like yeah, So then it became a lot. I mean,
Speaker 3: we just spent a lot of time with his team
Speaker 3: talking about the technical aspects and he was just very
Speaker 3: supportive about how to get the best performance and just
Speaker 3: and the reality mabe. We all just I love talking
Speaker 3: to fellow performers because we all know what we're dealing
Speaker 3: with and we all know what it's like to you know,
Speaker 3: things don't always go as planned, and the kind of
Speaker 3: verbiage we like hearing each other say, because these things
Speaker 3: doing these specials super fun, but it's live on stage,
Speaker 3: so anything can happen. Happen, and it does ruin it
Speaker 3: potentially or change it or it's not you know, you're
Speaker 3: not doing this very finite product. Of course you're going
Speaker 3: to edit it. So yeah, yeah, yeah, Wow.
Speaker 2: He's one of my time favorites years ago as well,
Speaker 2: and just always like no matter what, just the sweetest, most.
Speaker 3: So nice, and so I think it's so funny that
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone thinks he's prickly, but of course
Speaker 3: he's so angry exactly exactly, but as a person, just
Speaker 3: one of the sweetest and talk about someone who I think, well, anyways,
Speaker 3: he is. He is an artist. He has he's written plays.
Speaker 3: He you know, has such a huge playwriting background, and
Speaker 3: so he comes at it from this very like holistically
Speaker 3: artistic creative place, which I you know, to me, that
Speaker 3: was the best.
Speaker 1: Sounds so dreamy.
Speaker 2: You've done stand up, let's see solo theatrical shows. Did
Speaker 2: I say that vmoir podcasting, which you're still doing.
Speaker 1: These are all very different muscles.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's how I look at it.
Speaker 3: That's so funny you say that because people go, oh, like,
Speaker 3: what's the difference between this this, and I go, it's like,
Speaker 3: it's still your arm, but today it's BICEP, and tomorrow
Speaker 3: it's triceep and the other day for arm, you know,
Speaker 3: but you it's still your arm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's a really cool way we're putting it in.
Speaker 2: Also, you do have to rest muscles after you work them,
Speaker 2: so you need to have a few different ones to
Speaker 2: call on when when one needs to rest.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I've never been good with sticking to one thing,
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 1: Never me. Neither did.
Speaker 2: People used to tell you when you we're a kid,
Speaker 2: you know, pick one thing and be really good at it.
Speaker 1: Always drive me nuts me.
Speaker 3: Too, because I didn't. I thought it was too much pressure.
Speaker 3: And I was also like, I don't like one thing.
Speaker 3: I like all these other things. I mean, I wished
Speaker 3: for years and years and years I wish. I was like,
Speaker 3: why can't I just do one thing? My life would
Speaker 3: be so much easier if I did one thing. Maybe
Speaker 3: I'm wrongdoing all these things, because maybe if I focused
Speaker 3: all the energy on one thing. You know, all this
Speaker 3: you know, this is this is how we torture ourselves.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is, it is. And then that's hindsight again,
Speaker 2: like why did I torture myself? It's just fine doing
Speaker 2: twenty million things? You know, if you if there's we
Speaker 2: only get one shot at you know, go around in life.
Speaker 2: So why not try a lot of things? You know
Speaker 2: you may not be good at all of them, but
Speaker 2: in your case, sadly you are.
Speaker 3: But my question about I'm medium good at all of them?
Speaker 1: Yes, all right, well, I'll take that.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 2: I still think you're really which one's still of all
Speaker 2: the muscles that you have to work out, which one
Speaker 2: feels most like home and which one still kind of
Speaker 2: scares you?
Speaker 3: Is there? Oh my god, they will still scare me.
Speaker 3: They all still scare me. However, I will say, you know,
Speaker 3: in this world, in this podcasting world that we live in,
Speaker 3: talking to people and interviewing people has definitely gotten I
Speaker 3: think for me, easier and easier and easier because you
Speaker 3: kind of it gets easier to not feel scared about
Speaker 3: that or not freak out that you are wasting someone's time,
Speaker 3: Like I really walked in with a lot of those
Speaker 3: potential fears, and over time and I think actually just
Speaker 3: all of us are now so used to talking in
Speaker 3: these formats it's easier. I don't know if you feel
Speaker 3: that way.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I've seen thing.
Speaker 2: I mean I used to host a show where I
Speaker 2: interviewed people and I would be petrified, you know, like
Speaker 2: to sit down with them because there's like camera people
Speaker 2: and make up artists and sound people and then all
Speaker 2: the people in the back room that are watching and
Speaker 2: listening making fun of me that I can't hear, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste someone's time like I'm doing
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 3: No, no, you're not, You're I don't want to talk
Speaker 3: about things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you totally get that and stand up.
Speaker 3: You know, it's stand up as a funny way of
Speaker 3: playing with you because every time you go, oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I feel real solid, I feel really good. Oh, it
Speaker 3: will throw a new bizarre audience that is, you know whatever,
Speaker 3: A drunk person like it all. It's so humbling. It
Speaker 3: is one of the most humbling art forms because there's
Speaker 3: always a new thing, always a new reason for you
Speaker 3: to go like, are you kidding?
Speaker 2: Is there one moment like that that stands out for
Speaker 2: you that you can remember that you can talk about.
Speaker 3: Where I was, I felt very modest, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: very humbled.
Speaker 2: Well someone came at you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty Most of the New York clubs are are
Speaker 3: very good at controlling the audience. I'll tell you one
Speaker 3: where I was the hero because it's kind of fun
Speaker 3: and that doesn't usually happen. What usually happens is so
Speaker 3: what's the problem, And I will just tell you it's
Speaker 3: mostly alcohol, Like it's alcohol, it's not no one ever
Speaker 3: comes in, I think with this sort of you know whatever,
Speaker 3: and now I'm gonna mess with this woman.
Speaker 1: Get her. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And there's some stand up comics who have acts that
Speaker 3: are much more they instigate people. I will say that
Speaker 3: some people have the kind they like that, they like
Speaker 3: kind of getting a rise out of people, So there's potential,
Speaker 3: but I don't have that act. However, these women were
Speaker 3: not drunk. But there was a group of young women,
Speaker 3: which made even more mad because I'm like, I'm the
Speaker 3: woman on stage. There's four other guys on this lineup
Speaker 3: like you this is the like, come on, be on
Speaker 3: my side. But they were chatting. They were chatting the
Speaker 3: whole show, chatting the whole show, whole show, hole show,
Speaker 3: and disruptive right in the front, chatting, chatting, and they
Speaker 3: were told to shut up, blah blah. They did not.
Speaker 3: I got on and they're right there chatting. It's like
Speaker 3: I can hear them while I'm trying to do my jokes,
Speaker 3: and I finally just went okay and I and I
Speaker 3: just was like, guys, guys, you're talking and they did
Speaker 3: not care. And I said to one of them, well,
Speaker 3: what do you do? What do you do and she
Speaker 3: was like I think she said she works at insurance,
Speaker 3: and I was like, do you like that job? She's like,
Speaker 3: it's okay, I go to make a lot of money.
Speaker 3: She goes it's okay. I go, well, what's your passion?
Speaker 3: Like what did you want to do? And she said
Speaker 3: I don't really know. And I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: I hope you figure that out, because this is my
Speaker 3: passion and right now you're ruining it. And the audience
Speaker 3: had had had to put up with these women all
Speaker 3: night too, so they applauded. They they applauded at that moment,
Speaker 3: and those women got up and stormed out.
Speaker 1: They did, yeah, well, thank you. That was beautiful.
Speaker 3: And I felt bad all of a sudden, of course,
Speaker 3: and then I immediately go to Mofia Eisenberg woman, you know,
Speaker 3: blah blah shame. I'm like, oh no, I hope the
Speaker 3: club isn't mad at me that I you know, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. But no, they didn't give them their money
Speaker 3: back on the way. I'm sure they got their money back,
Speaker 3: but I was just like, don't come to a show.
Speaker 3: You do. Don't come to a show.
Speaker 2: Wow, that is like beyond hero. You should get a
Speaker 2: cape with your letter on it.
Speaker 1: I mean that's a huge Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was one time where I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 3: that worked out, I.
Speaker 2: Mean more or it was beautiful because you did that
Speaker 2: on the fly, live in front of an audience, and
Speaker 2: the most people could never even do that, even if
Speaker 2: it was like.
Speaker 1: A you know, alone on the street.
Speaker 2: And someone was heckling you, you couldn't do that.
Speaker 3: It worked out. I mean, it worked out. And sometimes
Speaker 3: you try to shut people down in some artful way
Speaker 3: and uh, and it doesn't work out that way, so
Speaker 3: you know, or yeah, they just get more and more
Speaker 3: belligerent or what have you. Yeah, I mean they're gonna
Speaker 3: steal that. There's a lot of times where I do
Speaker 3: think that there is still a little bit of a
Speaker 3: stereotype that we're all pushing up against. When there's a
Speaker 3: woman on stage with a microphone whose voice is being
Speaker 3: amplified louder than everybody else's, there's a lot of men
Speaker 3: that are like, nope, I must now say something.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You can see in their eyes right, like tell me
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. You can see the minute it happens when
Speaker 2: you start talking, and their eyes are like yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like you can. They don't even have to
Speaker 2: say anything. You know, you're annoying the hell out of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're like, well, I will have to talk
Speaker 3: because I'm not going to listen to a female voice
Speaker 3: as long my voice is the one that should be highlighted. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that still goes on.
Speaker 2: I still think when I was a kid that that
Speaker 2: was you know, all that's from the past, you know,
Speaker 2: and I and.
Speaker 3: I and I call it out to them. I literally go, oh,
Speaker 3: I get it. It's really hard having a woman on
Speaker 3: a microphone with a louder voice signors. I totally understand.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back with more of the Comedy Save
Speaker 4: Me Podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Save Me Podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh Fiarra, you hosted Ask Me Another on APR for
Speaker 2: nine years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: First of all, that's a remarkable run for any show,
Speaker 2: whether it's a yeah, it doesn't matter what kind of show,
Speaker 2: I mean, just lasting. What did that experience teach you
Speaker 2: about connecting with an audience that you couldn't have learned
Speaker 2: doing stand up alone.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so that was almost like a ring master
Speaker 3: job truly, because you're hosting a live show, but you're
Speaker 3: also kind of producing what happens on stage, because there's
Speaker 3: they were live contestants that were coming up on stage
Speaker 3: to play these clever, pretty difficult trivia games. Then there
Speaker 3: was a musician on stage with me, so there's just
Speaker 3: some banter there, and then there's just it's you know,
Speaker 3: this show is basically going to go to the audio world,
Speaker 3: so there's a lot of setting up just the station ideas,
Speaker 3: the ins and outs that are going to break all
Speaker 3: of that stuff, and then in between that hearing the
Speaker 3: crowd and responding to the crowd so we all feel
Speaker 3: like we're actually in a shared experience. So it was
Speaker 3: a lot And because it is going on MPR, it
Speaker 3: has to be clean and the kind of clean that
Speaker 3: you would be okay listening to in your car with
Speaker 3: your children. And I don't know if anyone's come up
Speaker 3: with a better phrase for this, but I called it
Speaker 3: doing positive comedy, Like you can't really take people down.
Speaker 3: I couldn't, like, you can't tear apart your contestants because
Speaker 3: they are so vulnerable and they're on stage feeling completely
Speaker 3: exposed and worried about failing, and you're not going to
Speaker 3: take down your fellow people on stage those are your shipmates,
Speaker 3: and you don't want to yell at the audience, so
Speaker 3: you have to figure out this way to be like
Speaker 3: positive about everything. And that was that. I mean, I
Speaker 3: feel like that skill was extremely useful, and it took
Speaker 3: kind of years to learn how to do that in
Speaker 3: any way that was effective and consistent. And then also
Speaker 3: I really think that's I learned how to interview. That's
Speaker 3: how I learned how to interview, because one I learned
Speaker 3: how to interview from the MPR standards. There's a news
Speaker 3: organization that helped me in the beginning just put together,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of what a good interview sounds like
Speaker 3: with a celebrity. But then you know, not long after,
Speaker 3: they was like, all right, now you do it, and
Speaker 3: I'm interviewing celebrities, but I'm interviewing real people, So you know,
Speaker 3: it was it was. I would come home from those
Speaker 3: shows exhausted, like just no more thoughts, thoughts.
Speaker 2: I bet like three things. Number One, you were a conductor,
Speaker 2: and the plates your plate spinning because you're like over here, okay,
Speaker 2: get this one start. That's amazing, though, because there's no
Speaker 2: way that you could have prepared for that except to
Speaker 2: just dive in and do it.
Speaker 3: Yes, So that's that was one about really listening. And
Speaker 3: you know what, that's a valuable skill. And I say
Speaker 3: to a lot of new stand up comics that you know,
Speaker 3: they they want everyone wants to get better immediately, of course,
Speaker 3: and I have said to people, but of course they
Speaker 3: don't totally understand. It takes so long for you to
Speaker 3: be able to listen to the audience like actually hear them,
Speaker 3: not just sort of be in your own world where
Speaker 3: you're we're thinking about what am I saying next and
Speaker 3: how did that go? You're actually listening to the whole room,
Speaker 3: and then it's it's a and it's I think it's
Speaker 3: one of those skills that you have to work on
Speaker 3: every time every day, like again working out or or running,
Speaker 3: Like you just got to work at it every day
Speaker 3: because it it's hard, it's it takes a lot of
Speaker 3: confidence to hear it does if it doesn't go well,
Speaker 3: if it does go well, how things hit and make
Speaker 3: accurate predictions from that.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's why I always thank God for the makeup
Speaker 2: and hair people and lighting people, because.
Speaker 1: That's where it gave you. You got to get out on.
Speaker 2: The floor first of all, and that takes the that's
Speaker 2: the biggest guts because everyone's looking at you. So when
Speaker 2: you know that someone's taking care of that, that's off
Speaker 2: the plate.
Speaker 3: When you I mean, like, I look at my wardrobe
Speaker 3: always in such a different way. I mean the show
Speaker 3: closed versus the non show clothes, and I you because
Speaker 3: you want this feel, and I know some clothes that
Speaker 3: I have from I put it on and I just go,
Speaker 3: this is the feel. And you walk on stage and
Speaker 3: you just feel like a million bucks because you're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this is who I am. And let me tell you,
Speaker 3: the audience smells it. They know we give them so
Speaker 3: such a hard time. We're always like that audience was
Speaker 3: stupid or they were drunk. But let me tell you,
Speaker 3: they have a sixth sense. And when you walk on
Speaker 3: there with a particular kind of vibe, they pick it
Speaker 3: up immediately.
Speaker 1: Yeah they do.
Speaker 2: They're very They know when they're being someone said a
Speaker 2: long time ago to me, people know when they're being
Speaker 2: advertised to. And I always feeling really do the really though,
Speaker 2: because I don't know, that's a whole other topic we
Speaker 2: can get into.
Speaker 3: Uh huh uh huh. Interesting I want.
Speaker 2: To talk to you about because I could probably go
Speaker 2: in a million directions with you.
Speaker 1: I just love talking with you.
Speaker 2: Parenting is a joke on iHeart is a Webby finalist
Speaker 2: for Best Host.
Speaker 1: Well that's congratulations, thank you, very thank you very much,
Speaker 1: thank you another muscle.
Speaker 2: What made you want to go deep on parenting as
Speaker 2: a comedy subject? Yeah, what felt sort of untapped that
Speaker 2: no one's touched yet.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it was literally creating the
Speaker 3: product that I couldn't find for myself. So I found
Speaker 3: becoming a parent a pretty you know, lonely, a lonely
Speaker 3: place to be. I didn't, and I did it older.
Speaker 3: So there was that, And then I was I work
Speaker 3: in stand up, which is not particularly family friendly, like
Speaker 3: just from an hour's point of view or from a
Speaker 3: lifestyle point of view, and a many now I feel
Speaker 3: like more and more people have kids, But I felt
Speaker 3: like when I started, it was kind of a little
Speaker 3: bit of an unspoken rule that you weren't going to
Speaker 3: have a family if you really wanted to take this seriously.
Speaker 3: I mean the guys did, but that was just that terrible,
Speaker 3: you know, kind of ongoing stereotype about like they had
Speaker 3: a wife at home while they were on the road,
Speaker 3: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then kids in every city.
Speaker 3: I write exactly one for every port, and so when
Speaker 3: I find so, then you know. And then the cruel
Speaker 3: reality caught up with me that I was leaving at
Speaker 3: night and there was no wind down for me. That's
Speaker 3: when I had to wind up. And I was like,
Speaker 3: there's gotta be other people with unusual jobs unusual hours.
Speaker 3: Who are parents? Like, come on, now, we all have
Speaker 3: unusual jobs and unusual hours. And I just felt like
Speaker 3: I was surrounded by this unbelievable nine to five maybe
Speaker 3: stay at home parent world, and I was like, where
Speaker 3: are my people? And then the humor. I felt like
Speaker 3: at the time, a lot of the parenting humor that
Speaker 3: was specifically coming at moms was a little like what
Speaker 3: I call wine in the sippy cup humor, which is great,
Speaker 3: I see the marriagrefold. It was just like it was
Speaker 3: like a little like we're drunk on shir Toay and
Speaker 3: we're moms because of there's laundry and there's and it
Speaker 3: just I didn't relate to it. And I was like,
Speaker 3: where's the others stuff, where's the stuff that doesn't feel
Speaker 3: so basic to me? I'm just going to say it.
Speaker 3: I felt it was basic and I didn't. I was
Speaker 3: not a shardon a mom. And if you are a
Speaker 3: shared name mom, power to you. I love you. Just
Speaker 3: was me. Yeah, I found the.
Speaker 2: Whole that the thing that was not being talked, done
Speaker 2: or showcased.
Speaker 1: Yes, So it was that whole situation.
Speaker 3: I was like, I want to talk to other stand
Speaker 3: ups or people working creative fields that have kids that
Speaker 3: you know, creative fields require so much time and effort
Speaker 3: and focus, and so does parenting. So I was like,
Speaker 3: I want to talk about people that are trying to
Speaker 3: shove these things together to the best of their ability.
Speaker 2: I think that's amazing. And speaking of keeping yourself busy
Speaker 2: and parenting and all that, hosting a weekly podcast is
Speaker 2: a serious coming on.
Speaker 3: It's a grind, my friend. I don't mind doing it,
Speaker 3: but it is a grind.
Speaker 1: It's a lot.
Speaker 2: How do you keep it feeling fresh and and of
Speaker 2: course most importantly honest.
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's so I literally have to work at
Speaker 3: that all the time because it can feel a little daunting. Luckily,
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's guest driven, much like what you're doing.
Speaker 3: So I bring on different people and we talk and
Speaker 3: that energizes me, right because everyone has cool and different
Speaker 3: takes on stuff, and I do like, I do love that.
Speaker 3: I do love talking to people. So then you know,
Speaker 3: when they tell a story it reminds you of something.
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I haven't thought about that for a
Speaker 3: long time. I should totally talk about that, but no,
Speaker 3: it is let me practice.
Speaker 2: How many times do you find when you're when you're
Speaker 2: talking with people on your podcast that you you have, oh, my,
Speaker 2: same thing, same thing, but you don't want to go
Speaker 2: down too far down the road, but you just really
Speaker 2: are driving so much like how do you stay back
Speaker 2: on that?
Speaker 3: It's the worst. It's the worst because honestly, I just
Speaker 3: taped an episode earlier today with someone who is a
Speaker 3: comedian but they're also a scientist and they are working
Speaker 3: in robotics and AI, and I just I have a
Speaker 3: thousand million questions about that. Yeah, you know, you can
Speaker 3: only do so much. And I think that that's probably
Speaker 3: what makes it good. You know, that's probably what makes
Speaker 3: it good if you're just like, again, here's the finish line,
Speaker 3: is there more? Yes? Because you know what, I do
Speaker 3: not like going to listen personally. I don't like going
Speaker 3: to listen to a podcast and see that it is
Speaker 3: an hour forty five. I'm like, who has this time?
Speaker 3: Who has this time?
Speaker 1: No one? All right? Speaking of which, another question.
Speaker 2: Leaving a Mark just finished the European to see did
Speaker 2: comedy translate when you were out in Europe doing the
Speaker 2: Leading a Mark tour? So were there moments that landed
Speaker 2: differently than you expected with an international audience?
Speaker 3: So totally So one part of there's a part in
Speaker 3: that show that I love doing, which is an It
Speaker 3: is audience interaction. So I set up a bunch of
Speaker 3: my stories and some of them are funny, and we're
Speaker 3: veering towards like some of the stuff that's a little
Speaker 3: bit more heavy. But right before I do that, I go,
Speaker 3: all right, now you know a little bit about my stuff.
Speaker 3: I want to hear about your scars. I do a
Speaker 3: scar competition with the audience where I ask people to
Speaker 3: throw their hand in the air, tell me where their
Speaker 3: scar is, how it happened, a couple senses, and there
Speaker 3: are prizes and wow, of course it's cool. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: really fun. And I've had people say the most unbelievable
Speaker 3: things like bone chilling, hilarious, everything in between, and really
Speaker 3: just it's a celebration too, of like we have all
Speaker 3: been through so much and we're still just going It's wild.
Speaker 3: So American audiences, are you kidding? Sometimes I'm like, all right,
Speaker 3: this show will last nine hours if I don't cut
Speaker 3: this down. Because there's a million hands in the air.
Speaker 3: Everyone wants to tell their story. Sometimes I have to
Speaker 3: wrap people up for them. I'm like, all right, get
Speaker 3: to the ending. But I was with the European audiences.
Speaker 3: The audience interaction of like that. It can feel different
Speaker 3: in some places, especially like Holland for example, where they
Speaker 3: kind of like they're not used to that they and
Speaker 3: they think it's a little little more serious much or
Speaker 3: just like a little bit like I'm not part of this.
Speaker 3: You do this really? Yeah, And even the idea of
Speaker 3: you talking with such vulnerable memoir is a little newer
Speaker 3: to them. From the cultural's perspective, it could even feel
Speaker 3: like why are you airing your dirty laundry? This is
Speaker 3: why would you talk about this?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 3: So I ended up quickly. I would come out before
Speaker 3: the show and I would give them a little peptoc
Speaker 3: and I'd be like, hey, everybody, here's what the show is.
Speaker 3: This is funny, but it's also sad and it's storytelling,
Speaker 3: so there's a narrative arc and I'm going to run
Speaker 3: you through my story and it's about scars, but you're
Speaker 3: a huge part of it, and there's gonna be an
Speaker 3: audience interaction and you are going to participate. I'm going
Speaker 3: to ask you about your scars, So start thinking about
Speaker 3: that right now, because I need It's a huge part
Speaker 3: of the show. And I made fun about Americans. I
Speaker 3: were also self upset, and we talk about and how
Speaker 3: much they are better. But I need them and if
Speaker 3: they don't participate, I will make them. And then I
Speaker 3: was like, and now let's do the show, and then
Speaker 3: I would do the show. They're all like, huh, but
Speaker 3: it was, it was, it was so it was, it
Speaker 3: bore fruit. I was so glad that I did it.
Speaker 1: So you have to do a pre I did a
Speaker 1: preamble to the show. Yes, wow, because it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I learned quickly. It was like everyone wants instructions. They
Speaker 3: just want to know what to do, and they don't
Speaker 3: know what to do. They want to know it's okay
Speaker 3: to laugh, Yeah, they want to look laugh. They want
Speaker 3: to know it's real. Like they're like, why is the
Speaker 3: fourth wall disappearing, bring it back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, especially in other countries that where
Speaker 2: it's not so normal to talk about personal things.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not, it's not as yeah, not as common.
Speaker 2: Very you know, stoic, stoa, just stoic, and a lot
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 3: Entertainment, even if it has some memore, it will be
Speaker 3: more absurdist. Like it's just there's just a lot of
Speaker 3: different a whole different world of comedy going out out there,
Speaker 3: which is great. So yeah, I had to I had
Speaker 3: to tell them what I expected.
Speaker 2: I think that's amazing. I mean, even though you just
Speaker 2: had the hutzba. Yeah, sorry, I haven't used that word
Speaker 2: in a while.
Speaker 1: I had to get it. But to be able to
Speaker 1: do that, that takes a lot of you know, it.
Speaker 3: Felt pretty wild coming out, just very stark, and people
Speaker 3: just stared at me with that stare of what is
Speaker 3: going on, which was unnerving, but it just it worked.
Speaker 3: And people who were Americans, there were some expats and
Speaker 3: I don't think we'll use that word anymore, so forgive me,
Speaker 3: but would there'd be other Americans Canadians that would come
Speaker 3: to the show because obviously English speaking, and they would
Speaker 3: say to me afterwards pointly that was such a good
Speaker 3: idea that you did that, And I was like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, Okay, yeah, I'm doing it because here it
Speaker 3: would feel cheesy. I would be like kind of embarrassed, honestly.
Speaker 2: But you want to know what's embarrassing when you said
Speaker 2: ex pats, Like, for the longest time, I thought they
Speaker 2: were Patriots plays because I'm from Boston, and I'm like, oh.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of Patriots.
Speaker 3: That's not that. They really just move everywhere, don't They
Speaker 3: had no idea?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, ohfiir.
Speaker 2: I have just a few more questions for you, because
Speaker 2: of course I really don't want to be that epitome
Speaker 2: of what you which is.
Speaker 1: An hour and a half.
Speaker 3: Nobody wants that.
Speaker 1: But this is really cool.
Speaker 2: Your memoir has been optioned for television, and correct me
Speaker 2: if I'm wrong. The memoir came out in what like
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, that's right. So this is something like a
Speaker 2: full circle situation. What's that journey been like? And does
Speaker 2: the idea it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Your own life being series like on TV? Is that funny? Surreal?
Speaker 1: Is it terrifying?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's a long shot, as I've
Speaker 3: been told with every television project. So I don't put
Speaker 3: much stock in it, but I love, I love thinking
Speaker 3: about it, and you know, there's a process and who knows,
Speaker 3: and actually it's been optioned, like the option has been reapped.
Speaker 3: So it was optioned and that's for a limited amount
Speaker 3: of time, and then they decide. Sometimes they're just dropped,
Speaker 3: and sometimes they're re up it because for whatever reason
Speaker 3: they didn't get.
Speaker 1: Around to it.
Speaker 3: What you know, So I will never I'm too far
Speaker 3: into this business to ever like put a put a
Speaker 3: dollar on that bet. But yeah, I love the idea
Speaker 3: of it, and I also know you have to you know,
Speaker 3: you have to just give up all preconceived notions because
Speaker 3: depending on what it is, it could look very different
Speaker 3: than the product I started with, uh you know, and
Speaker 3: maybe or maybe it would look a lot the same same.
Speaker 3: I mean, I would be I would be. I love
Speaker 3: the idea just from an efficiency point of view, that
Speaker 3: one product could serve many like that you could do
Speaker 3: a book that could also be a show that could
Speaker 3: all Yeah, that would be great.
Speaker 2: Why not, I mean it's sort of like your library. Yes,
Speaker 2: that would be that's and if it's it's evergreen because
Speaker 2: the same happens to us over and over.
Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny because it is a book
Speaker 3: about dating and relationships, and when I was doing it,
Speaker 3: I was not heavily just because of the timing. I
Speaker 3: was not heavily evolved in the online world of dating,
Speaker 3: because it just I made it just felt like a
Speaker 3: little There was some of it, but just felt like
Speaker 3: it was a different time. And the fact that it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter because it's not so much about how you
Speaker 3: met them, it's what happened after.
Speaker 1: What do you mean.
Speaker 2: For someone out there right now who I don't want
Speaker 2: to say it is like going through something hard hard.
Speaker 2: It means different things for different people. But you know,
Speaker 2: based on the things that we touched on, you know,
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of things that could be going wrong
Speaker 2: in someone's life, and most of the time there is
Speaker 2: stuff going on with everybody. We tend to forget that
Speaker 2: because we don't talk enough about all the similarities. I agree,
Speaker 2: Where can they find the funny in it? What advice
Speaker 2: would you tell them? Okay, can they find well? I
Speaker 2: think you know, you've got to give it time. Don't
Speaker 2: expect to feel the funny right away. And anyone that
Speaker 2: tells you you should you tell.
Speaker 3: Them to go screw themselves. Okay, anyone that's like, well,
Speaker 3: you know, why don't you see the bright side? If
Speaker 3: anyone ever says to you, well, it could have been worse,
Speaker 3: you were allowed to punch that person in the face.
Speaker 3: If anyone says to you it all happens for a
Speaker 3: reason and that doesn't resonate with you again, you are
Speaker 3: allowed to swear at them. I'm just saying you're allowed.
Speaker 3: But I'll tell you what I like. And this is
Speaker 3: just real because with all of these like kind of
Speaker 3: things people say, and I know why they say them
Speaker 3: is because we don't have words. Most people just don't
Speaker 3: know what to say, so they go with the general platitudes.
Speaker 3: But what I like to think is that when you're
Speaker 3: going through a tough time and you don't know how
Speaker 3: to see it in a way that makes sense in
Speaker 3: your life, or see in a way that you know
Speaker 3: has any sort of levity, please remember that there is
Speaker 3: a little sign at the Vancouver Airport in between arrivals
Speaker 3: and the place where you get the bags that is
Speaker 3: not supposed to mean anything other than directions, but you
Speaker 3: can take it a different way and it just reads
Speaker 3: please keep moving forward. That's all you have to do
Speaker 3: and then the funny will come.
Speaker 2: Wow, that really is pretty magical and so true and
Speaker 2: let's not make it. And one of the other things
Speaker 2: that you said that you could punch someone in the
Speaker 2: face for it, like if that becomes so common that
Speaker 2: that you're even like, eh, don't tell anyone that anymore.
Speaker 1: You gotta come up with something else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I really I love I don't.
Speaker 3: I have no problem with the therapy, but sometimes just look,
Speaker 3: just look on one step forward, just one step forward,
Speaker 3: because that's what you start going, Oh, this is hilarious
Speaker 3: that I have to keep moving forward? Are you kidding?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 3: And then you mean I I can't look I can
Speaker 3: and that just dwell and the ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wow, very very powerful advice. Her name is
Speaker 2: Opia Eisenberg, if I haven't mentioned it, because we've been
Speaker 2: on this podcast for about forty five minutes now, and
Speaker 2: I want to see your name a lot because I.
Speaker 1: Would love people to go see you.
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