Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No
Speaker 1: Sillers podcast with your host. Now fun that with your
Speaker 1: low glasses malone, you could come to a person and say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: hey Pete, drive me down to the gas station. Right.
Speaker 1: I can give you twenty dollars a day, right, or
Speaker 1: I can give you half of my lottery winnings. When
Speaker 1: I win. Nine out of ten people would take the
Speaker 1: twenty dollars a day, and that one guy would be
Speaker 1: a moron. I sort of god. So look, um, this morning,
Speaker 1: I was on YouTube, you know, obviously skimming through YouTube,
Speaker 1: um looking just you know, looking for content boxing ship
Speaker 1: you know the normal should I follow? And one person
Speaker 1: I follow is Lad? Right? Lad TV? I know Lad
Speaker 1: for a while. I know vlast probably since two thousand four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's created like a real dope um, like a styling
Speaker 1: of interview that's like super popular. But he's done it.
Speaker 1: He did this. Um. Sean prais a really dope interviewer
Speaker 1: that Lad uses did an interview with A. J. Johnson
Speaker 1: and A J. Johnson is the female that plays Sherraine
Speaker 1: and House Party. You know that was Jody's mom and
Speaker 1: baby boy. She was his sister. Act two you know
Speaker 1: one of us. She's been around like she's dope, super flag.
Speaker 1: I didn't know she was sucking Evander Holyfield though. That
Speaker 1: was crazy and Evander Holyfield was just getting those pregnant
Speaker 1: left and right on her and Nigga's cold bloody jack.
Speaker 1: But um, it was something she talked about specifically, and
Speaker 1: they were talking about what she got paid for House
Speaker 1: Party mm hmm. And I think the film paid roughly
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars a week, and I think they said
Speaker 1: they shot for four weeks somewhere around there, loose like
Speaker 1: I don't quite now. Quick question, just for context, they
Speaker 1: were multiple House Party movies made, right, but the very
Speaker 1: first this is the first one. Yes, the sisper joke.
Speaker 1: Reggie Huntland. Reggie Hunland was like a super genius. He
Speaker 1: was like, he's super bright, super bright dude. Just for
Speaker 1: financial context, yeah, yeah, he wrote this film for He
Speaker 1: wrote it for I think he always wrote it for
Speaker 1: Kid in Play, if I understand correctly. But the theater,
Speaker 1: the film company tried to get him to have uh,
Speaker 1: Jeff and Wills, you know, Jeff and Prince Jeff and
Speaker 1: Wire to do it, but he ended up getting it
Speaker 1: done with Kid in Play would end up being the
Speaker 1: greatest thing, because that is like a super brilliant, beautiful
Speaker 1: staying on my childhood. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: that film Kidn't Play is just amazing. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: low key. I don't know if it's the debut of Martin,
Speaker 1: but it's the earliest time I saw Morton Lawrence the film. Um,
Speaker 1: TC Campbell, it was the earliest I saw her in
Speaker 1: the film. Um what he was able to do with
Speaker 1: four force was unbelievable. Um, John Pops, I'm saying, John Witherspoon,
Speaker 1: he was super fired. Robert Harris was amazing and ended
Speaker 1: up being this cultural classic. So A. J. Johnson was
Speaker 1: talking about it and she was explaining that she got
Speaker 1: paid four thousand dollars for the film or Sean Priz
Speaker 1: said that what she was what she meant was, Um,
Speaker 1: she was paid roughly four thousand dollars a week, and
Speaker 1: after paying taxas agents and all kind of stuff. She
Speaker 1: was kind of young and new to the business or
Speaker 1: no corporation, she ended up walking away with around four
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Yeah, And I noticed, like you know, Sean
Speaker 1: kind of reacted like you know, he was just in disbelief.
Speaker 1: Are you a J. Johnson at this point a new actor?
Speaker 1: You know, They're on this low budget urban film that
Speaker 1: turned that turn because it was independent, wasn't it. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah for a while, and then coming from yeah, somebody
Speaker 1: else got it, somebody else, somebody, somebody picked it up,
Speaker 1: somebody popular. I forgot which company, but it built that company.
Speaker 1: But again, it's one of those things where this is
Speaker 1: like a low budget idea for new you know, up starts. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: And I just noticed how we look at business in Hollywood. Right,
Speaker 1: We're like, okay, what is the filmmaking? And I think
Speaker 1: House Party made, House Party made million bucks new line cinema, right,
Speaker 1: which became like this urban giant. Um. It's kind of
Speaker 1: something I've really been thinking about is making my own
Speaker 1: kind of new line cinema, which is crazy, but waiting
Speaker 1: to get into that. So if you do a stand
Speaker 1: up comedy special to it, there you go, there you
Speaker 1: go together. So they made seven million, they have the
Speaker 1: budget at two point five million, right, I'm sure whatever. Right,
Speaker 1: So they were shooting on film, But I just thought
Speaker 1: that was funny that they felt that she got like
Speaker 1: robbed in the film, And I'm like, somebody's paying you
Speaker 1: four thousand dollars a week. Where is that a robbery?
Speaker 1: And I think it's because in two thousand twenty two,
Speaker 1: when I was younger, you know, growing up in the
Speaker 1: nineties and the two thousand's the sucker thing. We used
Speaker 1: to call it a sucker move was to count another
Speaker 1: niggas pockets, to count somebody else's pockets, And I think
Speaker 1: that that's the cool thing in two thousand twenty two,
Speaker 1: is counting another nigga's pockets. So they're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: film made this versus picking up this brand new active
Speaker 1: paying the four thousand dollars a week. Which job in
Speaker 1: eighty nine is you're gonna get that? Pay you four
Speaker 1: thousand dollar a week? You fucking exactly. I don't even
Speaker 1: think maybe a doctor made four thousand dollars a week
Speaker 1: in nine nine. That's I mean that's two k year.
Speaker 1: What the funk make four thousand dollars a year? I
Speaker 1: mean a week now, and that's chunk of money. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that shi It was just bothering me where I was like,
Speaker 1: that's just a new thing, and Hollywood is being affected
Speaker 1: by because this sucker thing. That was a sucker move
Speaker 1: when I grew up counting other niggas pockets. It's actually
Speaker 1: a cool thing. Now. Yeah, we can say Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: and um, what do you call that? What was that?
Speaker 1: People who sat in the trees. Yeah, they were protesting
Speaker 1: in the trees. They were mad about definitely, No, you
Speaker 1: know exactly what it was. It was occupied occupy people,
Speaker 1: occupy Wall Street. You never heard of that, man, you're
Speaker 1: really black. I'm like they they were occupying buildings in
Speaker 1: downtown l A. When you lived in downtown l A.
Speaker 1: Occupied the building, I'm not the buildings, the trees outside
Speaker 1: of the buildings. They were just sitting in the trees. Yeah, protesting,
Speaker 1: like they we we're not here. We were in there
Speaker 1: bitching about how they went to college and majored and
Speaker 1: tipshittery and didn't get a six figure job. Right straight out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have gave a funk. No mean I didn't.
Speaker 1: I would have just looked in the tree and be like,
Speaker 1: what stupid motherfuck up in the tree. But again, you know,
Speaker 1: America is the place of protests, so I would imagine
Speaker 1: wife to get the most inventive. It's just and the
Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, I could pick industries where there
Speaker 1: are examples of this type of relationship when you're involved
Speaker 1: in the creation of i P, where the numbers get
Speaker 1: way funnier than that. I mean, like you know, you
Speaker 1: could have if if you because if you were to
Speaker 1: isolate every single thing, then sure you could. You could
Speaker 1: pick one study that paid one doctor a couple hundred grand,
Speaker 1: and that i P he he was paid by a
Speaker 1: university or he's on a salary, and and and the
Speaker 1: i P he created out of that study wasn't the
Speaker 1: university wasn't able to sell fiser for five dred million
Speaker 1: dollars or whatever the hell, and he got a hundred grand.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like a tragedy, but you don't realize
Speaker 1: that there's to get the one that hits. There's a
Speaker 1: ton that failed. And also you signed the contractor we're
Speaker 1: happier to pick and ship because you could have gone
Speaker 1: and opened your own damn lab and try to do
Speaker 1: it yourself that way and gotten the big paycheck. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like it's saying with the NFL to NBA, you
Speaker 1: know you're your rookie contract, you're aiming for your second contract,
Speaker 1: and usually people make they play better than the contract
Speaker 1: that they get, you know, when they get their big contracts,
Speaker 1: no silings, no sailings, g l my boy Peter. So
Speaker 1: you're saying it's an entertainment industry problem. For the most part,
Speaker 1: this is universal. You don't matter. You know. What's funny
Speaker 1: point because somebody was asking me my opinion on McDonald's
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, you know, they're from a
Speaker 1: raged minimum wage up and I was talking to one
Speaker 1: of my boys and he's like, yeah, if they're making
Speaker 1: all the burgers, they deserve to be paid the lions share.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, but that just sounds crazy, like
Speaker 1: they don't occur any of the costs or any of
Speaker 1: the risk. I'm gonna tell you a story. So when
Speaker 1: I was coming up, before I was wrapping, right, I
Speaker 1: used to sell. So when I first was in high school,
Speaker 1: I was selling crack. Mhm um. I was selling crack.
Speaker 1: And it was a great opportunity, right, because it started
Speaker 1: with an opportunity, excuse me, exceptional, Right, It was a
Speaker 1: great opportunity because I was going to high school and
Speaker 1: at this time my mom was in jail. So I'm
Speaker 1: standing with my dad and watch and my homie, my
Speaker 1: older homie, said, hey, man, if you sit in here
Speaker 1: for thirty minutes, you know what I'm saying, like thirty
Speaker 1: minutes to an hour, I'll pay you a hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: And I'm like a hundred dollars, like, yeah, you can
Speaker 1: do your homework. Just watch what's going on. So nothing
Speaker 1: unsavory happens, like cool. So I sit in there and
Speaker 1: I make a hundred dollars in an hour, finished my homework,
Speaker 1: and I got a hundred dollars question. Were you you've
Speaker 1: been courted on at that point? Are you just a
Speaker 1: kid passing by? Kid passing by? But I knew everybody
Speaker 1: I wasn't courted on yet. So this is sixteen, fifteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: They re fifteen because I got caught it on a
Speaker 1: sixteen or right the day before sixteen. So yeah, it's fifteen.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to square every day with a hundred dollars. Now,
Speaker 1: I didn't have to chop up the rocks. I didn't
Speaker 1: really understand what was going on. I just knew you
Speaker 1: take one for five, and if you had twenty dollars,
Speaker 1: you take one for five, two for ten, three for fifteen,
Speaker 1: five twenty. So I just had to make sure when
Speaker 1: they took him off the trade. They took their proper proportion.
Speaker 1: That's not the most important part of the story. The
Speaker 1: important part of the story is I finally moved to
Speaker 1: sharn PCP right cyclod So show him now standing on
Speaker 1: the corner. You know, you sell an ounce or two,
Speaker 1: you could easily make five hundred bucks profit. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you're standing outside, so you run the risk of going
Speaker 1: to jail real easy because the police is coming back
Speaker 1: and forth. They're watching at the corner. So when the
Speaker 1: opportunity came for me to work for my older homie, Worn,
Speaker 1: he was only gonna pay me five hundred dollars a week. Now,
Speaker 1: mind you, the spot is selling you know, three to
Speaker 1: five four ounces a day, I mean in sticks and
Speaker 1: in depths and in pores and ounces. You probably was
Speaker 1: gonna sell another eight ounces, So you're going through roughly
Speaker 1: anywhere from a ten to a sixteen ounces every day.
Speaker 1: So I might be giving my big homie every bit
Speaker 1: of ounces under twelve. Uh, I don't know, maybe three
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a day. Right, He paid me five hundreds,
Speaker 1: so by the end of the week, I might be
Speaker 1: giving me fifteen thousand. He gave me five hundred. Now
Speaker 1: whatever I made on top of the ounce right, sticking
Speaker 1: it out, dipping the sticks and cigarettes in it, which
Speaker 1: was an extra. You know, I was good, so thirty
Speaker 1: to sixty bucks, So that's why I really made my money,
Speaker 1: So that five hundred turned to two thousand bucks a week.
Speaker 1: But I remember people talking Ship, my hommies, that was
Speaker 1: my age, talking shit about it, like are you working
Speaker 1: for this man? This man ain't paying you, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not doing this, he's not doing that,
Speaker 1: he's playing you this that in the third But I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: like it's safe, Like I'm not going to jelling this mother.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to rate it. And these door locks
Speaker 1: are amazing. So it's not just like that in corporate America.
Speaker 1: It's just like that on the streets. I mean, it
Speaker 1: had perks, you know what I'm saying that perks like
Speaker 1: he would take me to the market place and buy
Speaker 1: me new Dickies, New Chucks, Like, you know, every week
Speaker 1: I had new Dickies, New Chucks, new t shirts. Because
Speaker 1: I'm making a great money. You know, he's still selling ship,
Speaker 1: so he probably the spot, probably bringing in every bit
Speaker 1: of a hundred too wants every month. You know it's
Speaker 1: it's good money, so but I never felt like he
Speaker 1: was cheating me. I actually made a song about it,
Speaker 1: and I explained to people like I passed me paying dudes,
Speaker 1: so can't nobody talk ship to me now? But I'm
Speaker 1: starting to realize the average human being right that comes
Speaker 1: from the same background, feels like they should be entitled
Speaker 1: to more. Even though I didn't have to pay none
Speaker 1: of the rent, even though I didn't pay no bills,
Speaker 1: even I didn't have to promote or market the actual
Speaker 1: trap the spot, even though I never had to go
Speaker 1: find the best shirm to sell out the spot. I
Speaker 1: didn't have to do anything but show up for twelve
Speaker 1: hours a day and dip sticks and pour and pour
Speaker 1: out of Then that saw all I had to do
Speaker 1: and not false a sleep. That's it, and I was
Speaker 1: gonna make money at that point. It's hard to catch
Speaker 1: selling it. You couldn't get me on tape. So when
Speaker 1: not listen to people that you know talk about complaining
Speaker 1: about making you know, if something she because she didn't
Speaker 1: complain shout out to queen, but other people was complaining
Speaker 1: talking ship and I'm like, you don't know what goes
Speaker 1: into something successful. You don't understand how many many hours,
Speaker 1: millions of dollars, thousands of dollars, like the way you
Speaker 1: know Pluck built that spot at that time. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, weren't really made an enterprise that I
Speaker 1: was able to show up and just capitalize. All I
Speaker 1: had to do is be trustworthy, not try to cheat him,
Speaker 1: and stay away. And I was gonna make money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I just never saw as him taking advantage of me.
Speaker 1: I don't to this day. I don't see it like that,
Speaker 1: even when we talk about being a rapper or entertainment business. Right,
Speaker 1: Like I listened to different artists like Meek mill is
Speaker 1: one of the latest ones, and Meek is like, you know,
Speaker 1: this label is beating me. You know they're they're I'm
Speaker 1: doing this and they're only paying me this and I
Speaker 1: just watch it happen. But if you really understand the breakdown,
Speaker 1: did they shoot him with a with a harpoon with
Speaker 1: a contract attached to it? How did he get into
Speaker 1: that contract before before before we even get into it,
Speaker 1: like it's a bad contract that he signed, that's not Oh,
Speaker 1: he did sign the contract. Did he see it first
Speaker 1: or did he side next site I'm seeing. But before
Speaker 1: we get into that, it's not a bad contract he signed, right,
Speaker 1: it's not a bad contract he signed. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's say Meek mill advance on an album is
Speaker 1: a million dollars, which is probably closer to million because
Speaker 1: Meek makes great records, so they're gonna pay him. Let's
Speaker 1: say they're give him two million dollars, miss closer. That's fair, right,
Speaker 1: So you already starting a million or two million dollars
Speaker 1: just to start you make your record, trying to shoot
Speaker 1: the videos. You're not paying for your videos. They're paying
Speaker 1: for your videos. You're not paying for your press run.
Speaker 1: They paying for your press run. The reality is a
Speaker 1: record company is a bank, right, Film companies, all this
Speaker 1: are banks that's loaning you money. They just happened to
Speaker 1: staff who they think the best people is to help
Speaker 1: you do what you're trying to do. So they don't
Speaker 1: just give you here's three million dollars and you go
Speaker 1: find whatever you need to find because they know you
Speaker 1: don't have the relationships. Like, the entertainment business as a
Speaker 1: whole is not really driven by money. It's really driven
Speaker 1: by relationships. It's more of a barter system, like I
Speaker 1: remember being on cash money and then moving my single
Speaker 1: certified to within the top sixty on the Billboard two
Speaker 1: on the big chart, just because somebody was promising the
Speaker 1: radio station the next little Wayne record. First, it's not
Speaker 1: money like every you can have. I watch a lot
Speaker 1: of wealthy not wealthy, forgive me. I watch a lot
Speaker 1: of rich people lose their ass off, I think, and
Speaker 1: they just needed money and you could buy this. You
Speaker 1: can't buy this. I mean people are doing business with
Speaker 1: people for years. I mean millions and millions of dollars.
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a rough out being independent what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's crazy, but shout out to A. J. Johnson.
Speaker 1: She didn't really have any complaints. She understood it created relationships. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it started her career. She made she made off of
Speaker 1: that movie, right, so she she actually talked about another
Speaker 1: situation where, um it was a part of the movie
Speaker 1: where play went to her house because they was trying
Speaker 1: to get kid out of jail and he said, Hey,
Speaker 1: if you come down, I'm gonna take you to Burger King.
Speaker 1: She's like, okay, and Burger King used that in the
Speaker 1: Damn as a commercial you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's just frustrating to watch people in the entertainment business
Speaker 1: act like they're being robbed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's so so like the nuances are plentiful, nigga, like
Speaker 1: oxygen molecules and the sea or something, because it's just
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot that's going on, so so
Speaker 1: easy for when you win. It looked like that me
Speaker 1: and he used to have this expression. It's all good
Speaker 1: to somebody say yes, feel me when you're on fifteen
Speaker 1: million to that fifteen million hit and then you accountable,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So, just watching all these people complaining about
Speaker 1: the entertainment business, it's crazy to me, like a real
Speaker 1: independent artist, man, it's fucking whack. Like right now, I
Speaker 1: just dropped I released Kanye should have never married that bit, right,
Speaker 1: m hm? Just getting love in the streaming apps, bro,
Speaker 1: it's tough, right. One particular streaming app is worried about
Speaker 1: their relationship with Kanye, so they're worried that he may
Speaker 1: not like the song, so they can't they can't really
Speaker 1: support it, like I've been eating the homie at you too,
Speaker 1: Like fact like probably you know once every four days
Speaker 1: no response. Feel me, you want to lose your mind
Speaker 1: because you're not used to people this in you and
Speaker 1: fucking you're like, oh funk you like, I don't gotta.
Speaker 1: It makes me want to pop up on the nigga
Speaker 1: like how you like and and again just to get support.
Speaker 1: You feel me when you earned it. So again the
Speaker 1: independent ship niggas are saying the independent trust me, they're
Speaker 1: not me. It's all the relationship based business, so you
Speaker 1: can't really wind. So watching Nigga's rhine, I would tell
Speaker 1: him play any ball, let's see what it looked like.
Speaker 1: Not the truth. It's people really really really don't understand
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff when it comes to how that
Speaker 1: situation works in general. Just like, yeah, you don't know
Speaker 1: what anything is worth telling you know what it's worth,
Speaker 1: and you only know the general public only knows the
Speaker 1: case is that fit that because all the times that
Speaker 1: the person with the that the bank put the money
Speaker 1: into the failed operation or the failed venture, you don't
Speaker 1: know about it because it failed, so you don't even
Speaker 1: see that ratio, you know. And it's like like the
Speaker 1: doctor we had on the podcast a while ago, he
Speaker 1: has a pretty innovative concept um that he wants to
Speaker 1: create and develop. He can't do that. He has to
Speaker 1: wait till he is done working at the research center
Speaker 1: that he works at because they would own the rights
Speaker 1: to it. So he has to go leave there passed
Speaker 1: by a huge like his his salary that he could fetch.
Speaker 1: It's like a half a million dollars a year easy
Speaker 1: as a research scientist. I mean, he's really very good.
Speaker 1: He has to walk past all that money. You could
Speaker 1: go open up his own lab on his own dime
Speaker 1: to create that that innovation to be able to take
Speaker 1: it to market. Yeah, people don't appreciate what that means
Speaker 1: and how easy the other money is. Because every other
Speaker 1: person in the industry that gets paid five fifty a
Speaker 1: year to be a children's hospital, l A or wherever
Speaker 1: the hell else doing this or that research, most of
Speaker 1: that they're just doing dumbass research that goes in the
Speaker 1: fucking drawer, goes onto a hard drive and nobody cares,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's not terribly just similar to the
Speaker 1: I mean, look, how many pilots get shot for Netflix
Speaker 1: or for NBC or whatever. They just never make it
Speaker 1: onto the air, you know. Yeah, christ I went to
Speaker 1: Atlanta on my own dime to go do a role
Speaker 1: in a pilot that Malcolm got paid to put together.
Speaker 1: I just did it for fun and to work to
Speaker 1: kick it with whatever funk came with it came of it.
Speaker 1: I did that ship on my dime. I just paid
Speaker 1: to go do it. Yeah, people don't want to believe.
Speaker 1: But fame is a payoff. Now is it a preferable payoff?
Speaker 1: That's a whole another question. It depends on mentally, where
Speaker 1: you at in your life, in what space you funk with.
Speaker 1: But fame is a payoff and it's something that you
Speaker 1: can always hustle. For me, it was like I wanted
Speaker 1: to own my ship, and I knew if I wanted
Speaker 1: to own it, then I was gonna have to market
Speaker 1: it because there ain't nobody else gonna market some ship
Speaker 1: you own. H For me, it costs too much money,
Speaker 1: It takes too much effort, so it just gets worse
Speaker 1: and worse. What was the story with Friday? We was
Speaker 1: talking about Friday a week ago. I talked about that
Speaker 1: with Malcolm for a long time, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of the same stuff. So Michael Blackson, he got paid.
Speaker 1: It was it was Which is the first role I've
Speaker 1: ever seen him in and it was the role to
Speaker 1: me that was a hit like that. You know, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be Jasnie, you know what I mean? That
Speaker 1: to me, that's his like stick like in holly Wood
Speaker 1: to this day. Yeah, you know what what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: what what he said? He get paid. He got paid
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars for one day. He had to own
Speaker 1: work for one day. It sounds about right, um, And
Speaker 1: people just have so much to say and it was
Speaker 1: hidden not killed, like yeah, you know you just a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars a day, but again if you counting the
Speaker 1: studios pockets, but you have no idea what it takes
Speaker 1: to make this ship work again, Like I said that,
Speaker 1: that's the sucker business in it what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: and I've listened to Chris Tucker talk about you know,
Speaker 1: I've never heard him complain, but I've heard people complain
Speaker 1: for him. Oh you know, he only got paid blah
Speaker 1: blah this much money to be in his film. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, that film changed his life. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: You don't get paid for the movie that you're in.
Speaker 1: You get it's like you do movie and you do
Speaker 1: the Bob Smith story on January one, two thousand and ten,
Speaker 1: and you get paid X dollars. That's not when you
Speaker 1: get paid for that movie. That's when you're getting paid
Speaker 1: for your previous work. So if Bob Smith's story down
Speaker 1: January first, two thousand ten explodes, then the Samuel Adams
Speaker 1: story on January first, two thousand twelve, that's when you
Speaker 1: get that money from the movie. The John Smith story.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's delayed one. So Friday
Speaker 1: didn't pay Chris Tucker a bunch of money, but Friday
Speaker 1: paid Chris Tucker every goddamn last dime that he got
Speaker 1: for Rush Hour. Fuck rush Hour. We turn around and
Speaker 1: did or whatever? What's the other movie? He turned around?
Speaker 1: The did right behind me where he started any by myself?
Speaker 1: He was he was, uh, he had a car washing,
Speaker 1: he was a hustler. It's a good movie too. I
Speaker 1: don't remember. Yeah, but you're right in so he said.
Speaker 1: So Michael Blackston was funny that Michael Blacks's name is
Speaker 1: and Michael Blackston I don't of why the funk I
Speaker 1: thought cous's name was actually Michael Blackson versus a play
Speaker 1: on the name. Michael Jackson's name is Jafari. So okay,
Speaker 1: it's the film industry's pay scale. I got paced eight
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a day when I did Next Friday, plus overtime,
Speaker 1: I made twelve hundred dollars for my one days of work.
Speaker 1: For my one day of work, I can't get jiggy
Speaker 1: with this ship. Thanks to Next Friday, I became the
Speaker 1: biggest African comic. And I love Michael Blackson making sure
Speaker 1: like he got paid twelve hundred dollars for one fucking day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and ice Que was put in a position because to
Speaker 1: defend like what he did for changing this man's life,
Speaker 1: giving him an opportunity to where it changed his life.
Speaker 1: And I doubt on that day, if Michael Blackson didn't
Speaker 1: go to do that and wouldn't put his name on
Speaker 1: the market it pick a comedy club in America that
Speaker 1: he was gonna fetch twel hundred dollars for his stand
Speaker 1: up show at that time, that like that was more
Speaker 1: money than he was gonna get on a single day
Speaker 1: doing stand up communy at that time. I'd be very
Speaker 1: sure saying that that was a lot of years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I don't again every day I'm surprised at
Speaker 1: the sucker ship going on. Man, it's getting worse and worse,
Speaker 1: and niggas feel like it's cool to bring this sucker
Speaker 1: ship to the public. And the public is so ignorant,
Speaker 1: I mean, and not ignorant in the way Black people
Speaker 1: use it, like as an insult, but like in the
Speaker 1: dictionary definition, yeah, uninformed or educated on what it what
Speaker 1: goes into successful content and ideas, And so they play
Speaker 1: off that ignorance to rally the average person up to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, well, you know, blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: you want to know, Like like I mentioned joking like
Speaker 1: about if you open up like like a new line
Speaker 1: cinema type of label, that I'd give you a comedy special.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I the only thing I
Speaker 1: want to do in comedy is rent out of place,
Speaker 1: tell Malcolm's filthy, will come film this ship. I'll put
Speaker 1: the people in the building and I'll film my own
Speaker 1: special and I will own it. To quote Catt Williams,
Speaker 1: Lockstock and Barrel if you haven't seen Catt Williams kind
Speaker 1: of break down a little bit of industry stuff on
Speaker 1: that interview we did with that Wanda lady in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: It's one of the greatest fifteen minutes of your life
Speaker 1: you have a chance to watch. He's I mean, but
Speaker 1: you know how I think about Cat, You know, I
Speaker 1: think that is absolutely a genius. Just he's fantastic, just fantastic.
Speaker 1: But but based on the principle that I just defined earlier,
Speaker 1: I would literally film the special and give it to
Speaker 1: Netflix for free and say, put it on put it
Speaker 1: on Netflix. You can have it for free because you
Speaker 1: understand what's the value in it? Yeah, market me whatever.
Speaker 1: And then the next thing that I do, that's where
Speaker 1: I get my money for the first thing that I did.
Speaker 1: So we actually had we we actually have uh resident guests, visitor,
Speaker 1: next door, neighbor, manager, extraordinary. Big Steele Still came into
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask Still something right because Still actually
Speaker 1: played in the film. I still was in Malibu's Most Wanted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he actually knows a lot about pay scales and
Speaker 1: value in different things. Still, when you did so, this
Speaker 1: particular scene still is in Malibu's Most Wanted. It's a
Speaker 1: rap battle between you know, Jamie whatever cause's name is
Speaker 1: he Uh yeah, Jamie Kennedy is at urban nightclub trying
Speaker 1: to earn his face in hip hop. So he's going
Speaker 1: to battle some of the resident mc so young dred
Speaker 1: and I'm a young dre from Kitchens in the scene,
Speaker 1: O g hommy high see feel Me platinum success. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's in the scene right and still is in the
Speaker 1: scene and fell he fails. Shout out to Felly fail.
Speaker 1: Probably on the six He's in the scene and still
Speaker 1: is there and all still has to do is he's
Speaker 1: the guy that you know he's supposed to battle. Jamie
Speaker 1: Kennedy's character still walks up and it's like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not even gonna battle this pump and hit him upside
Speaker 1: the head with the mic. Still, what were you paid
Speaker 1: for that? Man? You know that film? Man, I probably
Speaker 1: made it about dollars. Okay, what the fuck? Don't get
Speaker 1: that's not first off, I'm not talking about residents ship
Speaker 1: or nothing. What was your actual paycheck for? How many
Speaker 1: days was it? What the way sil works? I was
Speaker 1: there for four days and I got paid, which was
Speaker 1: still raised at that time, like twelve dollars a day.
Speaker 1: Four days to do that one scene. Well, we was there.
Speaker 1: It was a lot of stuff that they didn't show
Speaker 1: in the movie. I was actually at a UM. There
Speaker 1: were different scenes that were eventually edited. I guess that
Speaker 1: eventually got edited out of the edited out of the film.
Speaker 1: And it's a funny story about that because I was
Speaker 1: actually supposed to finish our close and to battle him.
Speaker 1: But you know, in films sometimes they don't understand our world.
Speaker 1: So they had me write this brand new rev. They
Speaker 1: wanted me to have it memorized, like in five minutes.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm not gonna remember that stuff.
Speaker 1: Everybody else had pre written stuff, right. They wanted me
Speaker 1: to write something real specificate folk same p and I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't remember this stuff. I couldn't remember
Speaker 1: past the first like six bars. Wow, you got played
Speaker 1: for what equated to roughly at best two minutes of
Speaker 1: camera time. Yeah, you know what the thing is, That's
Speaker 1: what I said. Everything no business they entertainment compares to
Speaker 1: the movies. Nothing, not music, not nothing else on that
Speaker 1: sleep being as rewarding job successful. Okay, look, we're gonna
Speaker 1: let you get back to your mike, and when you
Speaker 1: get to the mic, we're gonna do it so we
Speaker 1: can make sure we get all this game so we
Speaker 1: still come back RB. I'm saying we will get the
Speaker 1: better quality because you know, we got a lot of
Speaker 1: game when he comes to this ship. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: weird again, man, everybody, it's just pocket watching. That's the
Speaker 1: new thing, pocket watching. And I'm happy that you mentioned
Speaker 1: like Friday because the first Friday, and I don't know
Speaker 1: all the ins and outs, so I'm guessing based off
Speaker 1: of what you can see from afar, But that was
Speaker 1: Ice Cubes thing, Like he owned that. That was his
Speaker 1: independent venture, I believe, right something. Yeah, it had to
Speaker 1: because it's him in DJ poof for sure. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: had Friday flopped, he wouldn't have made shit. He probably
Speaker 1: could have shopped that around and got paid some money,
Speaker 1: you know, a decent paycheck because he was really popular
Speaker 1: at the time and Warner Brothers could have put that
Speaker 1: out and owned it and whatever. Yeah, but he took
Speaker 1: a shot and it worked. There's plenty of movies on
Speaker 1: the independent side where you take a shot and it
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Yeah. I think, like, like, I got not
Speaker 1: to you know, rag, And I gotta to continue to
Speaker 1: quote Malcolm because he had a conversation about it. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that's releasing music right now and TV show
Speaker 1: content totally different, you know, totally, But he was like
Speaker 1: he would have. He said, he understands that he has
Speaker 1: no beef with the ice cube over the way it
Speaker 1: went down or anything else, or anybody has a reason
Speaker 1: to complain. He said, he personally thinks that it would
Speaker 1: have been for that type of thing, a nice addendum
Speaker 1: to the contract to give people some sort of limited residual,
Speaker 1: if not equity, then then rolling income for an independent
Speaker 1: if it does go well, to have a clause in
Speaker 1: there and and in the event that blows up, clause
Speaker 1: or something like that, it wasn't there, you know. Oh well,
Speaker 1: but but again and shout out to Malcolm. So when
Speaker 1: he said Malcolm, he's referring to Malcolm May's Michael Lui,
Speaker 1: a young legend from Los Angeles, South Central, from the Jungles,
Speaker 1: a little bit from Watts. Really amazing actor, really amazing talent,
Speaker 1: and he shot a film, so he actually is aware
Speaker 1: of how it works. So not only has he done
Speaker 1: independent stuff, but he shot his own film, so he
Speaker 1: really knows. And I agree, like and pitched Zone films
Speaker 1: to studios yeah yeah, and got shut down yeah, and
Speaker 1: then go through and stuff didn't. So but again it's like, um,
Speaker 1: talk about a guy who's fifty years old, a thirty
Speaker 1: year old body man. That motherfucker might be seventy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that motherfucker man, he didn't live. It keeps business man.
Speaker 1: He keeps complaining about blood pressure and ship like that man.
Speaker 1: So um yeah, it's it's always that same complaint, And
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's so unmasculin to me. It's so
Speaker 1: unmasculine to agree to something right, to agree and then
Speaker 1: once the success or whatever happens, to feel like you're
Speaker 1: entitled to more without making that a part of the agreement.
Speaker 1: Like okay, a woman, they whole life. It's built on accountability.
Speaker 1: I've had girls borrow money and feel like they shouldn't
Speaker 1: have to pay it back because we slept together, but
Speaker 1: literally saying can I borrow the money? Not like women.
Speaker 1: They have a different understanding of the word borrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why there's not too many women directors in Hollywood
Speaker 1: or running banks. Fuck you up. As soon as they
Speaker 1: catch you my I phone, they're gonna whoop your ads.
Speaker 1: Women gonna come together and whoop your ass um yeah whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it blows me away, and it's so unmasculine, feel me.
Speaker 1: It's so like that's why I lose respect for rappers
Speaker 1: who do that. Imagine if if you said a Pete, well,
Speaker 1: you give me twenty bucks to drive me down to
Speaker 1: the liquor store to buy a lottery ticket. For twenty bucks,
Speaker 1: I'll do that ship a hundred times a day. That's
Speaker 1: a great deal for me until it wins. Now I'm
Speaker 1: bitching and complaining, Oh my god, you're gonna win twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: All you did was give me twenty bucks to drive
Speaker 1: you down half a block, and twenty dollars every day.
Speaker 1: So I was laughing in your face with my twenty bucks.
Speaker 1: You gave me twenty bucks and drive you on my
Speaker 1: own a quarter I had had three hundred million dollar
Speaker 1: lottery hit. You'll be like, hold up, I'm entitled two more.
Speaker 1: Yeah about these twenty dollars that you was charging me?
Speaker 1: And the cold port is you could make two deals, right.
Speaker 1: You could come to a person and say, hey, man, hey, Pete,
Speaker 1: drive me down to the gas station. Right. I can
Speaker 1: give you twenty dollars a day, right, or I can
Speaker 1: give you half of my lottery winnings when I win.
Speaker 1: Nine out of ten people would take the twenty dollars
Speaker 1: a day, and that one guy would be a moron
Speaker 1: sort of god. And that's when people do feels like
Speaker 1: I say, it's funny because right, you don't really have
Speaker 1: a ton of the like I would imagine Michael Blackson
Speaker 1: and Next Friday or Cat Williams and Friday at the
Speaker 1: mix didn't have a ton of power to say, hey,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get paid, just give me a
Speaker 1: one point over ride. If he's blah blah blah successful,
Speaker 1: it's like, no, this is most of the time. These
Speaker 1: are dreams. You know, you wanted to be in a
Speaker 1: film and somebody gave you that opportunity. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: who calls shots like that? I think Tom Cruise did
Speaker 1: that in Mission Impossible. He didn't do it in that
Speaker 1: stupid high school football movie in Pennsylvania. He did in
Speaker 1: the early eighties. He did that ship with Mission Impossible.
Speaker 1: Afterty been in about a hundred movies. You don't just say, oh,
Speaker 1: I want five percent, like oh man, it get worse
Speaker 1: and worse. But I just don't have respect. But I
Speaker 1: am grateful for Michael Blackson for defending Ice Cube and
Speaker 1: making sure he was mindful of his position. I'm proud
Speaker 1: of A J. Johnson. You know these people are legends
Speaker 1: and people I grew up watching be successful and I
Speaker 1: am so proud when they said, yeah, we made that deal,
Speaker 1: but that changed my life. And how stupid does it
Speaker 1: make the third party person? Look who's on Twitter bitching
Speaker 1: about how they got screwed and they're not even bitching
Speaker 1: about how they got screwed. That makes you look even dumber.
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, the person you're advocating on behalf of
Speaker 1: things that it worked out pretty well for them, because
Speaker 1: the reality is, for a lot of those roles, you
Speaker 1: could be anybody like I usually say like, well, how
Speaker 1: come to see you? Like we were talking, how come
Speaker 1: to CEO is paying so much more than got flip burgers?
Speaker 1: Because if you took the CEO down, he could probably
Speaker 1: flip a burger it you took the person flicking the
Speaker 1: burger up to the CEOs off us and said, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the complexity of this operation. Go run it competitively,
Speaker 1: and you gotta make back an additional seven eight percent
Speaker 1: a year. They're gonna suck it up. Yeah. Again, It's
Speaker 1: one of those things, like Hollywood, you get blessed with.
Speaker 1: I've watched so many rappers complain about the deal funk.
Speaker 1: The fact they signed it right, funk the fact they
Speaker 1: signed it. But like deals that are not bad. Like
Speaker 1: I was looking at a deal they were talking about
Speaker 1: with Summer Walker and I'm like, bro, like the money
Speaker 1: they had to spending Summer Walker to make it work.
Speaker 1: The producer you know was dating her, was part of
Speaker 1: her deal? That that she lost a bet that involved
Speaker 1: that weird bald haircutt thing she has that I saw
Speaker 1: on Instagram today. That wasn't part of the deal. That
Speaker 1: was just her idea. She's season, She's something else. Man,
Speaker 1: She's not gonna get another deal doing like that. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: you know who produced her ship London on the track
Speaker 1: London is a fucking multi platinum stud when it comes
Speaker 1: to making music, right, and he does her whole record
Speaker 1: and just gives her this unbelievable opportunity. They she was
Speaker 1: cleaning houses. They gave her eighty thousand dollars. You have
Speaker 1: a follower. She had one of the most powerful producers
Speaker 1: in the music business. Mine is just Atlanta in the
Speaker 1: whole music business. And when I think about it, it's
Speaker 1: just crazy to watch people act like her deal was bad.
Speaker 1: Her deal right with the company called Love Renaissance and
Speaker 1: Love Renaissance is a super fled company, super really great deal.
Speaker 1: They they do great things, right, But it says Walker
Speaker 1: signed an agreement with Love Renaissance lvr N. Walker signed
Speaker 1: the agreement on agreement, so they agreed it with Love
Speaker 1: Renaissance as well as in the Sculp records. As reported
Speaker 1: by Rolling Stone, the November two thousand seventeen documents states
Speaker 1: that the CPR singer had to give up rights to
Speaker 1: her master recording and was given a standard royalty rate
Speaker 1: and they're saying it's lower than industry standard. She got
Speaker 1: fifteen percent for nothing like in her situation, She's gonna
Speaker 1: be fine because she got a pin so she writes
Speaker 1: some of this stuff right, so she's gonna make her
Speaker 1: money on publish. She also received an advance of eighty
Speaker 1: five thousand, which was the down from the price of
Speaker 1: one fifteen in a previous draft. She had no sales history,
Speaker 1: she had no reason she wasn't the most successful artist. Nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's need that people are talking shit about this.
Speaker 1: This laddy was cleaning houses, singing in the shower, clean shower,
Speaker 1: for sure. It's nothing else that's ship crazy. And now
Speaker 1: she's a multie, she's a she's a platinum success. Feel
Speaker 1: me for short access to millions of dollars an opportunity
Speaker 1: and people talking shit about the deal like it's bad,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's why I am a tyrant, because man,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. I don't even want to get into it.
Speaker 1: One of these days, probably really soon, we're gonna break
Speaker 1: down Tupac's contract when he got out of jail that
Speaker 1: he wrote himself, right, and we'll make a whole pot
Speaker 1: on it just talking about it. We'll find the right
Speaker 1: person to be a guest and really break down how
Speaker 1: great and how smart he was to put together that deal.
Speaker 1: Question and you have some familiarity with with cash money,
Speaker 1: obviously they seem to get batterer. It seems like three
Speaker 1: out of the four hot boys were just getting taken
Speaker 1: to the cleaners. If you listen to the internet, you know,
Speaker 1: And it seemed I hear a lot about how like
Speaker 1: both Pete and Baby weren't really like the New Orleans
Speaker 1: guys weren't really paying their artists or whatever the fuck,
Speaker 1: which you know, I mean, that's that's what they say,
Speaker 1: not my being, but what is kind of the reality
Speaker 1: on that to some degree, so my situation with Burnman,
Speaker 1: he's overpaid me. Yeah, he's done right by me and
Speaker 1: did the best he can. Um you know the situation
Speaker 1: about like did b G get completely hung out to
Speaker 1: I don't know if you had heard heard the story. Again,
Speaker 1: Burnman has to manage these situations. It is completely unique.
Speaker 1: Glasses Malone is a sober mathematic a mathematical, brilliant crip. Right,
Speaker 1: So I'm always paying attention. I'm always focused bird Man. Sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know, again, something that looks like just a really
Speaker 1: talented artist could also become a different kind of you
Speaker 1: know problem, like some people like b G. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What's on Heroin? Yes, a turk got
Speaker 1: locked up for don't you get like some sort of
Speaker 1: shootout or something over a Heroin? How Birdman has his
Speaker 1: relationships with every artist, I think it just depends on
Speaker 1: the artist. So I don't know the depth of what's
Speaker 1: going on. Like it's easy for me to sit on
Speaker 1: the sideline and say, yeah, well this person did it
Speaker 1: right or this person did it wrong. No, but I'll
Speaker 1: tell you one thing, every last one of those relationships
Speaker 1: are complex. None of them were easy I know for sure.
Speaker 1: Juvie's deal was Juvie had a really good job, and
Speaker 1: Juvie was something in the city of New Orleans, and
Speaker 1: bird Man wanted to mess with him, and he told
Speaker 1: bern Man, I'm not quite sure, but I think it
Speaker 1: was a thousand dollars a week. He said, Man, you
Speaker 1: want to mess when you gotta give me a thousand
Speaker 1: dollars a week for me? And I could be down,
Speaker 1: and bird Man made it happen. So again we could
Speaker 1: look at years later and and talk about their relationship.
Speaker 1: But that was before Hunt came out, and that was
Speaker 1: before this is you know, this is Soldier House Party one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so again it's easy. You know when when when Juvie
Speaker 1: was getting that thousand dollars a week or whatever that
Speaker 1: number was to be, you know, to the t. I
Speaker 1: don't quite remember, but I think it was that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all good. Let's said. One of the craziest conversations
Speaker 1: I hear is about T d E. And I've heard
Speaker 1: all kinds of y'all Top this or this that bro
Speaker 1: I watched Top for years do his best figure out
Speaker 1: ways to get Jay Rock Kendrick Q is so is
Speaker 1: so many different opportunities, you know, getting Wayne features, helping
Speaker 1: the work, making the videos, getting them in different places,
Speaker 1: flying in New York. Whatever it took to make that successful,
Speaker 1: you know, making sure that eight even as Louisiana Chicken
Speaker 1: feel me. Whatever it took, paying the electrical bill, marketing
Speaker 1: these guys forever, like for years, for years, we're talking
Speaker 1: about Kendrick. Ship doesn't truly hit until two thousand and ten, eleven.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Jay Rock was he he
Speaker 1: never gave up on Rock ever, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they had had whatever issues that two men
Speaker 1: could have, But man, it took him all the way
Speaker 1: roughly so from two thousand when I first met him
Speaker 1: doing a thing, in two thousand five, when I first
Speaker 1: started doing my thing. It took from two thousand five
Speaker 1: all the way till I'm gonna tell you hold on.
Speaker 1: It took from two thousand five all the way to
Speaker 1: two thousand and eighteen. But he stood by Jay Rock,
Speaker 1: and they finally got him his motherfucking platinum song King's
Speaker 1: Dead came out in two thousand eighteen. That's how long
Speaker 1: he worked and marketed Jay Rock and his brand and
Speaker 1: his product until two for thirteen years for him to
Speaker 1: get a two thousand eight eight All right, right, when
Speaker 1: is a goal or platinum song? He worked with him
Speaker 1: for thirteen years. I remember schoolboy walking in the studio, right,
Speaker 1: I remember when he first came. And it's crazy that
Speaker 1: somebody could possibly ever say anything not flattering about top
Speaker 1: about you know, the guy that runs TV. Dude, how
Speaker 1: do you not how do you not tell that story
Speaker 1: as one of the greatest things a brother could do
Speaker 1: for for for young black people? Like, what other story
Speaker 1: is there? Yeah? Sometimes we look at the death row scenario, right,
Speaker 1: and we oh, niggas got so much funked up ship
Speaker 1: to say about Pops, about Shill Night. They got a
Speaker 1: lot of ship to say before that, before that dog
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre, he was in a situation where he was
Speaker 1: mad with Easy and feeling like they were not paying
Speaker 1: him his fair share. She'll gets him out of the contract,
Speaker 1: then puts him on with a situation right with the
Speaker 1: guy who ends up changing Dr Dre's life, Jimmy IRV.
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen without Shildon Night. Now, that's not to
Speaker 1: take away from Drake Talon. Dre was always going to
Speaker 1: be a success. Hell Dre was a success ten years
Speaker 1: before Sugar was in the business. He was making platting
Speaker 1: records for a long time. So that's not what Drey
Speaker 1: bearing success, But Drey and Jimmy creates billion dollar dr
Speaker 1: Dre having the vision to know what Snoop was supposed
Speaker 1: to look like and what it was supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Right now, we're watching Snoop come back full circle to
Speaker 1: the most important brand of his career. He's bringing a
Speaker 1: project out on February thirteen called back on Death Row
Speaker 1: because he knows that is the version that the whole
Speaker 1: globe fell in love with. Is he doing that because
Speaker 1: he has the ability to use that name or some capacity,
Speaker 1: because sure it's some business and they don't have nothing
Speaker 1: to do with should somebody who owned the ship, I
Speaker 1: would imagine has gotten contact with him and somehow he's
Speaker 1: involved whatever it is. But the point is to be
Speaker 1: able to circle back to your most powerful self and
Speaker 1: in the brand that you affiliated with, that you created
Speaker 1: and gave you know, value two as well as empowered you.
Speaker 1: He didn't say, hey, back on Blah blah blah. He
Speaker 1: said back on death Row, Yeah, that's feel me back
Speaker 1: on what he been with Pe. He didn't secle back
Speaker 1: and do a deal. Pp, we need to come back
Speaker 1: with this new no limit Snoop Dog top dog. You
Speaker 1: know again, it's not saying he's not, but some of
Speaker 1: these people, man, And it's crazy because I did have
Speaker 1: a conversation with Sugar while ago, and he was just
Speaker 1: telling me, like, I'm like, people act like should robbed everybody.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dog, like, nobody's looking at Snoop is going
Speaker 1: to go to prison. Snoop needs mealians upon millions of
Speaker 1: dollars to beat this case. I ain't gonna even tell
Speaker 1: you the unsavory ship and bribes and ship that that
Speaker 1: Pops told me happened. That should have told me happened
Speaker 1: for him to keep Snoop out. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like them guys don't get no credit. What I'm saying
Speaker 1: all they take his ship, like all he robbed every
Speaker 1: It's funny because their favorite thing is like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: nobody owned their cars? Who the funk was owning cars?
Speaker 1: And which corporation you lease all cars and corporations? Imagine
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You want a company car,
Speaker 1: You want a company car. You don't want your car
Speaker 1: stuck on the side of the road. Fuck it ain't
Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know, the car wasn't in my name?
Speaker 1: I think, did I have the key? Could I turn
Speaker 1: the ignition? Did I have to pay a monthly stiping
Speaker 1: on death pa at lease on it? Desperate bas We're
Speaker 1: looking through the window at seeing trying to get down
Speaker 1: sunset and just listening to them. People complain about that,
Speaker 1: Oh the cars wasn't in their name. The houses you
Speaker 1: mean they got the station where red free they could
Speaker 1: just stat they didn't have to pay money that came
Speaker 1: to him, So they had so that cars without in
Speaker 1: their name, so they could they had least is that
Speaker 1: they were not accountable for a liable for us or
Speaker 1: whatever happens. Fine, they had houses they didn't have to
Speaker 1: pay for. They were nice, right, And what are we saying? Oh?
Speaker 1: Thank god? It sounds like they're living in living in
Speaker 1: the women's world with no consequences. You just driving cars
Speaker 1: over the houses, burner cars down, no oil, burner house,
Speaker 1: dally to stove on, who give us a ship? Not
Speaker 1: my name? Oh it's not mine man? And it's crazy
Speaker 1: when you really get into pox deal. That's why I
Speaker 1: can't wait. We're gonna take some time. We're gonna getting
Speaker 1: pox deal. That's that's that's gonna be a special pie.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do. Man. His deal was so you could
Speaker 1: tell he was so focused. His deal was incredible. I
Speaker 1: would love to see one of his film deals, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, like, where would he be
Speaker 1: at in film now? Yeah, somebody told me he'd be
Speaker 1: Will Smith, and I'm like, no, Will is moms more
Speaker 1: of a diverse personality. He's obviously you're on talking different
Speaker 1: sides of the camera. But I think in reality, his
Speaker 1: music career would have exhausted itself and he would have
Speaker 1: transitioned into being a fifty cent type of person who
Speaker 1: just had a whole keeping ton of cinematic doing is
Speaker 1: just great. So yeah, culturally special, It's hard to be
Speaker 1: in the music in that type of a vein of
Speaker 1: genre relevant for a long, long, long long time. It's
Speaker 1: a lot easier to be relevant for a long long
Speaker 1: time on a on a silver screen. Good looking out
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Speaker 1: USA and produced by my homeboy A King for the
Speaker 1: Black Effect Podcast Network and I Heart Radio. Yeah. Yeah,