WEBVTT - Conversations About The Entertainment Industry 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Watch up and welcome back to another episode and No 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.960 Sillers podcast with your host. Now fun that with your 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:14.400 low glasses malone, you could come to a person and say, hey, man, 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.680 hey Pete, drive me down to the gas station. Right. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.720 I can give you twenty dollars a day, right, or 0:00:23.280 --> 0:00:26.360 I can give you half of my lottery winnings. When 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:31.040 I win. Nine out of ten people would take the 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.800 twenty dollars a day, and that one guy would be 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:48.520 a moron. I sort of god. So look, um, this morning, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.800 I was on YouTube, you know, obviously skimming through YouTube, 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:57.720 um looking just you know, looking for content boxing ship 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:02.080 you know the normal should I follow? And one person 0:01:02.120 --> 0:01:05.120 I follow is Lad? Right? Lad TV? I know Lad 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:10.320 for a while. I know vlast probably since two thousand four. Yeah, 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:14.000 he's created like a real dope um, like a styling 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:17.760 of interview that's like super popular. But he's done it. 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:22.760 He did this. Um. Sean prais a really dope interviewer 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:25.600 that Lad uses did an interview with A. J. Johnson 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:32.280 and A J. Johnson is the female that plays Sherraine 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:36.680 and House Party. You know that was Jody's mom and 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:41.959 baby boy. She was his sister. Act two you know 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.440 one of us. She's been around like she's dope, super flag. 0:01:45.480 --> 0:01:47.480 I didn't know she was sucking Evander Holyfield though. That 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:50.960 was crazy and Evander Holyfield was just getting those pregnant 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.480 left and right on her and Nigga's cold bloody jack. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.600 But um, it was something she talked about specifically, and 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.400 they were talking about what she got paid for House 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:07.280 Party mm hmm. And I think the film paid roughly 0:02:07.320 --> 0:02:10.880 four thousand dollars a week, and I think they said 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.120 they shot for four weeks somewhere around there, loose like 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:19.720 I don't quite now. Quick question, just for context, they 0:02:19.800 --> 0:02:23.200 were multiple House Party movies made, right, but the very 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.760 first this is the first one. Yes, the sisper joke. 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.560 Reggie Huntland. Reggie Hunland was like a super genius. He 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:32.840 was like, he's super bright, super bright dude. Just for 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:37.360 financial context, yeah, yeah, he wrote this film for He 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.359 wrote it for I think he always wrote it for 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:44.440 Kid in Play, if I understand correctly. But the theater, 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:48.000 the film company tried to get him to have uh, 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.800 Jeff and Wills, you know, Jeff and Prince Jeff and 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.800 Wire to do it, but he ended up getting it 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:54.679 done with Kid in Play would end up being the 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:59.520 greatest thing, because that is like a super brilliant, beautiful 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:01.320 staying on my childhood. You know what I'm saying, Like 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:04.320 that film Kidn't Play is just amazing. I mean, it's 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:06.960 low key. I don't know if it's the debut of Martin, 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:11.920 but it's the earliest time I saw Morton Lawrence the film. Um, 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.280 TC Campbell, it was the earliest I saw her in 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:17.000 the film. Um what he was able to do with 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:23.000 four force was unbelievable. Um, John Pops, I'm saying, John Witherspoon, 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.079 he was super fired. Robert Harris was amazing and ended 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:30.200 up being this cultural classic. So A. J. Johnson was 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.320 talking about it and she was explaining that she got 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:36.600 paid four thousand dollars for the film or Sean Priz 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:41.880 said that what she was what she meant was, Um, 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:44.360 she was paid roughly four thousand dollars a week, and 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.440 after paying taxas agents and all kind of stuff. She 0:03:47.480 --> 0:03:49.120 was kind of young and new to the business or 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:52.320 no corporation, she ended up walking away with around four 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:57.240 thousand dollars. Yeah, And I noticed, like you know, Sean 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.720 kind of reacted like you know, he was just in disbelief. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:02.480 Are you a J. Johnson at this point a new actor? 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.680 You know, They're on this low budget urban film that 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.200 turned that turn because it was independent, wasn't it. Yeah 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.920 yeah for a while, and then coming from yeah, somebody 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.800 else got it, somebody else, somebody, somebody picked it up, 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.680 somebody popular. I forgot which company, but it built that company. 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.080 But again, it's one of those things where this is 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:30.000 like a low budget idea for new you know, up starts. Yeah. Um, 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:35.640 And I just noticed how we look at business in Hollywood. Right, 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.160 We're like, okay, what is the filmmaking? And I think 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:55.640 House Party made, House Party made million bucks new line cinema, right, 0:04:55.640 --> 0:05:00.479 which became like this urban giant. Um. It's kind of 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.400 something I've really been thinking about is making my own 0:05:02.480 --> 0:05:04.560 kind of new line cinema, which is crazy, but waiting 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:09.920 to get into that. So if you do a stand 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:12.120 up comedy special to it, there you go, there you 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:17.200 go together. So they made seven million, they have the 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.040 budget at two point five million, right, I'm sure whatever. Right, 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:23.000 So they were shooting on film, But I just thought 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:27.000 that was funny that they felt that she got like 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:31.599 robbed in the film, And I'm like, somebody's paying you 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:34.520 four thousand dollars a week. Where is that a robbery? 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:41.000 And I think it's because in two thousand twenty two, 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:44.800 when I was younger, you know, growing up in the 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:48.280 nineties and the two thousand's the sucker thing. We used 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.360 to call it a sucker move was to count another 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:56.000 niggas pockets, to count somebody else's pockets, And I think 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.760 that that's the cool thing in two thousand twenty two, 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:02.880 is counting another nigga's pockets. So they're like, oh, this 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:05.920 film made this versus picking up this brand new active 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.600 paying the four thousand dollars a week. Which job in 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.960 eighty nine is you're gonna get that? Pay you four 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:15.400 thousand dollar a week? You fucking exactly. I don't even 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.880 think maybe a doctor made four thousand dollars a week 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:22.120 in nine nine. That's I mean that's two k year. 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:24.600 What the funk make four thousand dollars a year? I 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:28.880 mean a week now, and that's chunk of money. Now, Yeah, 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:31.159 that shi It was just bothering me where I was like, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.000 that's just a new thing, and Hollywood is being affected 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:39.480 by because this sucker thing. That was a sucker move 0:06:39.520 --> 0:06:42.960 when I grew up counting other niggas pockets. It's actually 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:47.040 a cool thing. Now. Yeah, we can say Bernie Sanders 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:48.640 and um, what do you call that? What was that? 0:06:48.720 --> 0:06:54.440 People who sat in the trees. Yeah, they were protesting 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.120 in the trees. They were mad about definitely, No, you 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.920 know exactly what it was. It was occupied occupy people, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:07.480 occupy Wall Street. You never heard of that, man, you're 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:14.160 really black. I'm like they they were occupying buildings in 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.840 downtown l A. When you lived in downtown l A. 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:22.600 Occupied the building, I'm not the buildings, the trees outside 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:26.920 of the buildings. They were just sitting in the trees. Yeah, protesting, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:28.520 like they we we're not here. We were in there 0:07:28.560 --> 0:07:30.880 bitching about how they went to college and majored and 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:35.240 tipshittery and didn't get a six figure job. Right straight out, Yeah, 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.800 I wouldn't have gave a funk. No mean I didn't. 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:39.440 I would have just looked in the tree and be like, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:42.480 what stupid motherfuck up in the tree. But again, you know, 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:45.680 America is the place of protests, so I would imagine 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:50.320 wife to get the most inventive. It's just and the 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:54.840 whole thing. I mean, I could pick industries where there 0:07:54.880 --> 0:08:01.760 are examples of this type of relationship when you're involved 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.160 in the creation of i P, where the numbers get 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.680 way funnier than that. I mean, like you know, you 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.040 could have if if you because if you were to 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.560 isolate every single thing, then sure you could. You could 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:18.760 pick one study that paid one doctor a couple hundred grand, 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.160 and that i P he he was paid by a 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.680 university or he's on a salary, and and and the 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:29.840 i P he created out of that study wasn't the 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:33.640 university wasn't able to sell fiser for five dred million 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.440 dollars or whatever the hell, and he got a hundred grand. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.360 So it sounds like a tragedy, but you don't realize 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:41.760 that there's to get the one that hits. There's a 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:45.280 ton that failed. And also you signed the contractor we're 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:46.920 happier to pick and ship because you could have gone 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.560 and opened your own damn lab and try to do 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.079 it yourself that way and gotten the big paycheck. I mean, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.720 it's like it's saying with the NFL to NBA, you 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.040 know you're your rookie contract, you're aiming for your second contract, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:03.559 and usually people make they play better than the contract 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.520 that they get, you know, when they get their big contracts, 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:18.600 no silings, no sailings, g l my boy Peter. So 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:23.040 you're saying it's an entertainment industry problem. For the most part, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.480 this is universal. You don't matter. You know. What's funny 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:31.360 point because somebody was asking me my opinion on McDonald's 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:32.800 and I was like, yeah, you know, they're from a 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.920 raged minimum wage up and I was talking to one 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:37.560 of my boys and he's like, yeah, if they're making 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.960 all the burgers, they deserve to be paid the lions share. 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:45.040 And I'm like, yeah, but that just sounds crazy, like 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:46.880 they don't occur any of the costs or any of 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.000 the risk. I'm gonna tell you a story. So when 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.920 I was coming up, before I was wrapping, right, I 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:56.360 used to sell. So when I first was in high school, 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:01.760 I was selling crack. Mhm um. I was selling crack. 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:05.720 And it was a great opportunity, right, because it started 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:10.920 with an opportunity, excuse me, exceptional, Right, It was a 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:16.920 great opportunity because I was going to high school and 0:10:16.960 --> 0:10:18.800 at this time my mom was in jail. So I'm 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:23.840 standing with my dad and watch and my homie, my 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:25.920 older homie, said, hey, man, if you sit in here 0:10:25.920 --> 0:10:28.840 for thirty minutes, you know what I'm saying, like thirty 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:31.679 minutes to an hour, I'll pay you a hundred dollars. 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:34.760 And I'm like a hundred dollars, like, yeah, you can 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:37.720 do your homework. Just watch what's going on. So nothing 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.559 unsavory happens, like cool. So I sit in there and 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.400 I make a hundred dollars in an hour, finished my homework, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:49.280 and I got a hundred dollars question. Were you you've 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:50.760 been courted on at that point? Are you just a 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.840 kid passing by? Kid passing by? But I knew everybody 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:58.360 I wasn't courted on yet. So this is sixteen, fifteen sixteen. 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.520 They re fifteen because I got caught it on a 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:06.040 sixteen or right the day before sixteen. So yeah, it's fifteen. 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.680 So I'm going to square every day with a hundred dollars. Now, 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:12.600 I didn't have to chop up the rocks. I didn't 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.000 really understand what was going on. I just knew you 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.560 take one for five, and if you had twenty dollars, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:21.280 you take one for five, two for ten, three for fifteen, 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.200 five twenty. So I just had to make sure when 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.000 they took him off the trade. They took their proper proportion. 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:29.560 That's not the most important part of the story. The 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:32.360 important part of the story is I finally moved to 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:37.760 sharn PCP right cyclod So show him now standing on 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:41.320 the corner. You know, you sell an ounce or two, 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:47.920 you could easily make five hundred bucks profit. Yeah, but 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:50.640 you're standing outside, so you run the risk of going 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.719 to jail real easy because the police is coming back 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.319 and forth. They're watching at the corner. So when the 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.600 opportunity came for me to work for my older homie, Worn, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:08.679 he was only gonna pay me five hundred dollars a week. Now, 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.960 mind you, the spot is selling you know, three to 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:15.679 five four ounces a day, I mean in sticks and 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:20.520 in depths and in pores and ounces. You probably was 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:25.720 gonna sell another eight ounces, So you're going through roughly 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:29.800 anywhere from a ten to a sixteen ounces every day. 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:36.640 So I might be giving my big homie every bit 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:49.040 of ounces under twelve. Uh, I don't know, maybe three 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:55.960 thousand dollars a day. Right, He paid me five hundreds, 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:57.200 so by the end of the week, I might be 0:12:57.200 --> 0:12:59.800 giving me fifteen thousand. He gave me five hundred. Now 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.440 whatever I made on top of the ounce right, sticking 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.720 it out, dipping the sticks and cigarettes in it, which 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.520 was an extra. You know, I was good, so thirty 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.080 to sixty bucks, So that's why I really made my money, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:11.280 So that five hundred turned to two thousand bucks a week. 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:16.559 But I remember people talking Ship, my hommies, that was 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:19.120 my age, talking shit about it, like are you working 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.960 for this man? This man ain't paying you, blah blah blah. 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.920 You know, he's not doing this, he's not doing that, 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.480 he's playing you this that in the third But I'm thinking, 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.920 like it's safe, Like I'm not going to jelling this mother. 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:33.840 They're gonna have to rate it. And these door locks 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:41.080 are amazing. So it's not just like that in corporate America. 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:44.480 It's just like that on the streets. I mean, it 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.480 had perks, you know what I'm saying that perks like 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:48.600 he would take me to the market place and buy 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.440 me new Dickies, New Chucks, Like, you know, every week 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.800 I had new Dickies, New Chucks, new t shirts. Because 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.560 I'm making a great money. You know, he's still selling ship, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.319 so he probably the spot, probably bringing in every bit 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:03.880 of a hundred too wants every month. You know it's 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.280 it's good money, so but I never felt like he 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:10.000 was cheating me. I actually made a song about it, 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:13.280 and I explained to people like I passed me paying dudes, 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:17.280 so can't nobody talk ship to me now? But I'm 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.600 starting to realize the average human being right that comes 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.640 from the same background, feels like they should be entitled 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.240 to more. Even though I didn't have to pay none 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.200 of the rent, even though I didn't pay no bills, 0:14:31.120 --> 0:14:33.680 even I didn't have to promote or market the actual 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.840 trap the spot, even though I never had to go 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.000 find the best shirm to sell out the spot. I 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.880 didn't have to do anything but show up for twelve 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:46.360 hours a day and dip sticks and pour and pour 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.480 out of Then that saw all I had to do 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.760 and not false a sleep. That's it, and I was 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.920 gonna make money at that point. It's hard to catch 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:59.920 selling it. You couldn't get me on tape. So when 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.040 not listen to people that you know talk about complaining 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.440 about making you know, if something she because she didn't 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.200 complain shout out to queen, but other people was complaining 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.840 talking ship and I'm like, you don't know what goes 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:16.080 into something successful. You don't understand how many many hours, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.600 millions of dollars, thousands of dollars, like the way you 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:23.680 know Pluck built that spot at that time. You know 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:28.080 what I'm saying, weren't really made an enterprise that I 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:30.440 was able to show up and just capitalize. All I 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.680 had to do is be trustworthy, not try to cheat him, 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.960 and stay away. And I was gonna make money. Yeah, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:38.840 And I just never saw as him taking advantage of me. 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:40.840 I don't to this day. I don't see it like that, 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.440 even when we talk about being a rapper or entertainment business. Right, 0:15:45.480 --> 0:15:48.520 Like I listened to different artists like Meek mill is 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.160 one of the latest ones, and Meek is like, you know, 0:15:52.240 --> 0:15:55.080 this label is beating me. You know they're they're I'm 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:58.080 doing this and they're only paying me this and I 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:02.440 just watch it happen. But if you really understand the breakdown, 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.000 did they shoot him with a with a harpoon with 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:07.720 a contract attached to it? How did he get into 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:11.880 that contract before before before we even get into it, 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.840 like it's a bad contract that he signed, that's not Oh, 0:16:14.920 --> 0:16:17.040 he did sign the contract. Did he see it first 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.760 or did he side next site I'm seeing. But before 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:23.720 we get into that, it's not a bad contract he signed, right, 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:30.080 it's not a bad contract he signed. It's like, Okay, 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:33.320 So let's say Meek mill advance on an album is 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.160 a million dollars, which is probably closer to million because 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:38.880 Meek makes great records, so they're gonna pay him. Let's 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:43.920 say they're give him two million dollars, miss closer. That's fair, right, 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:48.360 So you already starting a million or two million dollars 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.800 just to start you make your record, trying to shoot 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.680 the videos. You're not paying for your videos. They're paying 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:55.800 for your videos. You're not paying for your press run. 0:16:55.800 --> 0:16:59.320 They paying for your press run. The reality is a 0:16:59.400 --> 0:17:04.040 record company is a bank, right, Film companies, all this 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.199 are banks that's loaning you money. They just happened to 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:11.359 staff who they think the best people is to help 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:15.160 you do what you're trying to do. So they don't 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:17.679 just give you here's three million dollars and you go 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.040 find whatever you need to find because they know you 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.280 don't have the relationships. Like, the entertainment business as a 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:26.679 whole is not really driven by money. It's really driven 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:29.600 by relationships. It's more of a barter system, like I 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.840 remember being on cash money and then moving my single 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:36.040 certified to within the top sixty on the Billboard two 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.720 on the big chart, just because somebody was promising the 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:49.880 radio station the next little Wayne record. First, it's not 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:52.560 money like every you can have. I watch a lot 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.720 of wealthy not wealthy, forgive me. I watch a lot 0:17:55.760 --> 0:18:00.119 of rich people lose their ass off, I think, and 0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:02.600 they just needed money and you could buy this. You 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.960 can't buy this. I mean people are doing business with 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.320 people for years. I mean millions and millions of dollars. 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.840 So it's a it's a rough out being independent what 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:19.679 I'm saying. So it's crazy, but shout out to A. J. Johnson. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:25.240 She didn't really have any complaints. She understood it created relationships. Obviously, 0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:29.320 it started her career. She made she made off of 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.000 that movie, right, so she she actually talked about another 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:37.040 situation where, um it was a part of the movie 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.359 where play went to her house because they was trying 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:42.200 to get kid out of jail and he said, Hey, 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:44.159 if you come down, I'm gonna take you to Burger King. 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:47.440 She's like, okay, and Burger King used that in the 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:51.200 Damn as a commercial you know what I'm saying. So 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:57.520 it's just frustrating to watch people in the entertainment business 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.639 act like they're being robbed, you know what I'm saying. 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:07.080 It's so so like the nuances are plentiful, nigga, like 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:10.480 oxygen molecules and the sea or something, because it's just 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:13.680 a lot. It's a lot that's going on, so so 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.080 easy for when you win. It looked like that me 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.920 and he used to have this expression. It's all good 0:19:19.920 --> 0:19:24.120 to somebody say yes, feel me when you're on fifteen 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.160 million to that fifteen million hit and then you accountable, 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:31.440 I'm saying. So, just watching all these people complaining about 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.600 the entertainment business, it's crazy to me, like a real 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:38.639 independent artist, man, it's fucking whack. Like right now, I 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:41.800 just dropped I released Kanye should have never married that bit, right, 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.680 m hm? Just getting love in the streaming apps, bro, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:51.399 it's tough, right. One particular streaming app is worried about 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.360 their relationship with Kanye, so they're worried that he may 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:56.920 not like the song, so they can't they can't really 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:00.280 support it, like I've been eating the homie at you too, 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.800 Like fact like probably you know once every four days 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:09.000 no response. Feel me, you want to lose your mind 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:10.879 because you're not used to people this in you and 0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:13.160 fucking you're like, oh funk you like, I don't gotta. 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.399 It makes me want to pop up on the nigga 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:19.600 like how you like and and again just to get support. 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:24.480 You feel me when you earned it. So again the 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:28.480 independent ship niggas are saying the independent trust me, they're 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.600 not me. It's all the relationship based business, so you 0:20:32.680 --> 0:20:36.239 can't really wind. So watching Nigga's rhine, I would tell 0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.080 him play any ball, let's see what it looked like. 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:46.160 Not the truth. It's people really really really don't understand 0:20:46.320 --> 0:20:48.200 a lot of stuff when it comes to how that 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:53.840 situation works in general. Just like, yeah, you don't know 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:55.600 what anything is worth telling you know what it's worth, 0:20:55.640 --> 0:20:59.639 and you only know the general public only knows the 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:02.040 case is that fit that because all the times that 0:21:02.920 --> 0:21:05.880 the person with the that the bank put the money 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.360 into the failed operation or the failed venture, you don't 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.360 know about it because it failed, so you don't even 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:17.199 see that ratio, you know. And it's like like the 0:21:17.280 --> 0:21:20.880 doctor we had on the podcast a while ago, he 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:28.760 has a pretty innovative concept um that he wants to 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:33.159 create and develop. He can't do that. He has to 0:21:33.240 --> 0:21:36.800 wait till he is done working at the research center 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.640 that he works at because they would own the rights 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:45.359 to it. So he has to go leave there passed 0:21:45.440 --> 0:21:48.760 by a huge like his his salary that he could fetch. 0:21:48.760 --> 0:21:50.879 It's like a half a million dollars a year easy 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:55.919 as a research scientist. I mean, he's really very good. 0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.440 He has to walk past all that money. You could 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.760 go open up his own lab on his own dime 0:22:00.800 --> 0:22:04.479 to create that that innovation to be able to take 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:09.840 it to market. Yeah, people don't appreciate what that means 0:22:09.840 --> 0:22:12.040 and how easy the other money is. Because every other 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.320 person in the industry that gets paid five fifty a 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:18.280 year to be a children's hospital, l A or wherever 0:22:18.280 --> 0:22:20.399 the hell else doing this or that research, most of 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.320 that they're just doing dumbass research that goes in the 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:25.920 fucking drawer, goes onto a hard drive and nobody cares, 0:22:27.240 --> 0:22:30.080 you know, And that's not terribly just similar to the 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:34.280 I mean, look, how many pilots get shot for Netflix 0:22:34.359 --> 0:22:36.359 or for NBC or whatever. They just never make it 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:43.680 onto the air, you know. Yeah, christ I went to 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:45.920 Atlanta on my own dime to go do a role 0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.560 in a pilot that Malcolm got paid to put together. 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:51.359 I just did it for fun and to work to 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:54.639 kick it with whatever funk came with it came of it. 0:22:54.680 --> 0:22:56.840 I did that ship on my dime. I just paid 0:22:56.880 --> 0:23:02.200 to go do it. Yeah, people don't want to believe. 0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:08.760 But fame is a payoff. Now is it a preferable payoff? 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.840 That's a whole another question. It depends on mentally, where 0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:14.280 you at in your life, in what space you funk with. 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.359 But fame is a payoff and it's something that you 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:22.720 can always hustle. For me, it was like I wanted 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.800 to own my ship, and I knew if I wanted 0:23:25.840 --> 0:23:27.399 to own it, then I was gonna have to market 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:29.640 it because there ain't nobody else gonna market some ship 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:33.320 you own. H For me, it costs too much money, 0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:37.600 It takes too much effort, so it just gets worse 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:40.399 and worse. What was the story with Friday? We was 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:43.280 talking about Friday a week ago. I talked about that 0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:45.399 with Malcolm for a long time, and there's a lot 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:49.359 of the same stuff. So Michael Blackson, he got paid. 0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:52.800 It was it was Which is the first role I've 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:54.439 ever seen him in and it was the role to 0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.240 me that was a hit like that. You know, uh, 0:23:58.320 --> 0:24:00.040 I'm gonna be Jasnie, you know what I mean? That 0:24:00.200 --> 0:24:02.720 to me, that's his like stick like in holly Wood 0:24:02.800 --> 0:24:05.680 to this day. Yeah, you know what what I'm saying. So 0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:07.800 what what he said? He get paid. He got paid 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:09.960 a thousand dollars for one day. He had to own 0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:16.359 work for one day. It sounds about right, um, And 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.399 people just have so much to say and it was 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:21.359 hidden not killed, like yeah, you know you just a 0:24:21.480 --> 0:24:25.439 thousand dollars a day, but again if you counting the 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:29.280 studios pockets, but you have no idea what it takes 0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.920