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Speaker 1: handle it dps show. Vikings always find a way to
Speaker 1: make it interesting, and they did last night. It's twenty
Speaker 1: nine to nothing. I turn it off. I go okay.
Speaker 1: I think this is a safe enough lead for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: They were killing the Steelers running the football. Then for
Speaker 1: some unexplainable reason, they decided to throw the ball, and
Speaker 1: they threw the ball to the other team. Kirk dek
Speaker 1: Cousins had a couple of interceptions and the Vikings held
Speaker 1: on to win it thirty six to twenty eight. When
Speaker 1: the Vikings are clicking on offense, it's impressive and it's
Speaker 1: hard to figure out why they're not even better. Dalvin Cook,
Speaker 1: playing with one good shoulder, dominated the Steelers defense. He
Speaker 1: was unstoppable in the first half, ended up with just
Speaker 1: over two hundred yards in the ground. Steelers also struggled
Speaker 1: to stop Justin Jefferson early and Kirk Cousins when he's
Speaker 1: playing well. Minnesota is tough to stop. But they're six
Speaker 1: and seven. Yeah, they have a chance to make the
Speaker 1: playoffs in the NFC, But we've seen this team they'll
Speaker 1: follow up a strong performance with a bad one. Although
Speaker 1: they did follow up a bad one with a strong performance.
Speaker 1: I guess they're dangerous gun postseason ton or at least
Speaker 1: they're gonna make the games interesting, that's for sure. Here's
Speaker 1: a head coach, Mike Zimmer on talking about his team
Speaker 1: playing a full sixteen minutes. I keep trying to teach
Speaker 1: these guys how to finish. We talk about it all
Speaker 1: the time, being detailed about your job. Especially in the
Speaker 1: first half. Guys were detailed about everything. They've played with
Speaker 1: a lot of energy. I guess we haven't really been
Speaker 1: in a game where we've been up by so much,
Speaker 1: and you know, I was still trying to be aggressive
Speaker 1: with everything really that we were doing, and we didn't.
Speaker 1: You know, we didn't execute as well. Why not just
Speaker 1: keep running? You have two good running backs, you got
Speaker 1: one great running back. You've got two good running backs here.
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick didn't stop running, and he doesn't have running
Speaker 1: backs who are as talented as what Mike zimmer has here.
Speaker 1: And then Kirk Cousins throws a couple interceptions. Steelers had
Speaker 1: a chance to at least tie this game, send it
Speaker 1: into overtime, and that's not a good Steeler team with
Speaker 1: t J. Watt Out, the injuries that they have, and
Speaker 1: I know that this is going to be a referendum today.
Speaker 1: It'll be a referendum about Ben roethlis future. Here. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Ben's coming back. I didn't think
Speaker 1: he was coming back this year. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: coming back next year. If he wants to play great.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, fine, here's Ben talking about a moral victory.
Speaker 1: I don't look at moral victories. I told the guys
Speaker 1: that as I walked around to the lineman and some
Speaker 1: of the skill guys, is I'm not going to tell
Speaker 1: y'all great moral victory, great fightback, because it's not that.
Speaker 1: But I'm proud of him. Yeah, you know they didn't
Speaker 1: give up. You know what I saw from the Steelers
Speaker 1: is what I should see from the Vikings, and that
Speaker 1: is closing somebody out being great in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: If I'm Pittsburgh, I would have the two minute drill
Speaker 1: the entire game. That's all. Now. Naji Harris, I like
Speaker 1: him as a running back, but they don't have a
Speaker 1: good offensive line. I would keep them off Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: and just run a two minute drill the entire game
Speaker 1: and just see what happens. Then I take away the
Speaker 1: pass rush. Let Ben do what Ben does well. Doesn't
Speaker 1: have to be deep passes. But you know, you got
Speaker 1: what four more games to go gimmick your way into
Speaker 1: maybe a postseason birth. Here are they going to be?
Speaker 1: They could be a dangerous team. Both of these teams
Speaker 1: can be dangerous if they get into the postseason. But
Speaker 1: here's the problem with a team like this or both
Speaker 1: teams like this. They're not good enough to be, you know,
Speaker 1: good for four quarters. And that's why they're kind of
Speaker 1: on the priphery of being a playoff team. They're not consistent.
Speaker 1: You can't count on them for anything. And certainly the Vikings.
Speaker 1: The Vikings are stuck in neutral And it wasn't long
Speaker 1: ago where we thought this is a team that could
Speaker 1: go to a super Bowl and Pittsburgh the same way.
Speaker 1: You look at Pittsburgh and you go, man, that defense,
Speaker 1: you know, all he needs a little bit of offense.
Speaker 1: And you got Ben, you know, can play well in
Speaker 1: big games. Mike Tomlin Hall of Fame coach. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you watch them and you go, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's not much to see here, but last night they
Speaker 1: made it interesting thanks to the Minnesota Vikings. Mcclub and
Speaker 1: what's the poll question you have? Okay, we're debating this
Speaker 1: on the other side of the glass. If you needed
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback next year, say you're the Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: and you can't draft a guy and you want a veteran,
Speaker 1: who would you want out of this list? Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger, Jimmy Gee, Matt Ryan if you somehow became available.
Speaker 1: And then there's a Todd tried Teddy Bridgewater. We kind
Speaker 1: of rejected him on that one. But wait, you've already
Speaker 1: had Teddy Bridgewater. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. They
Speaker 1: already had Cam. That's true. Well, the Panthers is just
Speaker 1: an example. I was sort of a mid level team
Speaker 1: that might need someone. Well, no, I don't want Ben Roethlisberger. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'd probably take Jimmy g. I don't sound too excited,
Speaker 1: do it. I guess I gotta have a quarterback. I
Speaker 1: would take Jimmy g. Technically, I have to have a quarterback,
Speaker 1: I think, right, mclovan. Tactically, are you sure that a
Speaker 1: team like the Cults that signed Philip Rivers wouldn't want
Speaker 1: to bring in Big Ben for a year just if
Speaker 1: you wanted one year? No, no, no, So is he
Speaker 1: done if he's not back and pitch, yes, yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't watch Kirk Cousins play and
Speaker 1: just look at his statue, you think he's a really
Speaker 1: good quarterback. Yeah, but if you actually watch the games,
Speaker 1: I think as a Vikings fan, that's where you're frustrating
Speaker 1: because it's like, here's a win and it's gone. Here's
Speaker 1: a win and it's gone. But he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: signature win. He's not a guy that you go, hey,
Speaker 1: put the ball in Kirk Cousins hands. It's almost the opposite,
Speaker 1: Like the game is on the line, you go, like
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz's it's like he's a younger version of Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Where you go, I don't know, I don't know, And
Speaker 1: at that position you can't have that I don't know
Speaker 1: philosophy trying to win a game, come from behind and
Speaker 1: hey we're leading, how about a sustained drive, take some
Speaker 1: time off the clock. I just don't know if you
Speaker 1: can get that from him. Yeah, yeah, that you like,
Speaker 1: that game was six years ago. That's the signature moment.
Speaker 1: But that's a long time ago, six years ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Twelve of Minnesota's thirteen games this season have been decided
Speaker 1: by eight points or less. That matches the most such
Speaker 1: games in a full season since twenty sixteen. They're in
Speaker 1: every game, but you're in every game. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a feeling that they're like the Chargers or the Raiders.
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep you in every game. I mean, it
Speaker 1: has to be great for their fan base. We're gonna
Speaker 1: keep us in the game and you in the game.
Speaker 1: The Vikings. What poll questions? I got one that's genuinely
Speaker 1: going to stump you. Who is the second best running
Speaker 1: back in the National Football League. I'm taking out Derrick Henry,
Speaker 1: who's hurt. Choices are Jonathan Taylor, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb,
Speaker 1: Joe Mixon playing very well. Yeah, I'm not gonna put
Speaker 1: McCaffrey on there because he's so he's hurt so often,
Speaker 1: and Ezekial Elliot's numbers are way down. So I think
Speaker 1: that's really the top out of the top ten rushers.
Speaker 1: Zose with a Kennedy. I love Nick Chubb, I do.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the more underrated players in
Speaker 1: the game. I would take Jonathan Taylor. If you said
Speaker 1: I could have Christian McCaffrey or Jonathan Taylor, I'd take
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. I'm just looking at injuries. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: their careers. I would take Jonathan Taylor. Absolutely. Dalvin Cook,
Speaker 1: he's good, but I don't want him. Joe Mixon is
Speaker 1: underrated as well. Joe Mixon is. There are times when
Speaker 1: you go, wait, he had thirty carries in a game.
Speaker 1: Plus he can catch the ball out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: Now does he have baggage from college? Yes, he does,
Speaker 1: but and maybe that keeps him from being a star.
Speaker 1: But Joe Mixon is really good and he's been really,
Speaker 1: really beneficial for Joe Burrow. Yeah, I'm the club. Where
Speaker 1: do you put an Ezekiel Elliott and a Saquon Barkley
Speaker 1: in this list? Barkley's not in there. I just yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not there. Can't count on him. You know, Zeke's
Speaker 1: got He's going to get another thousand yard season. And
Speaker 1: I know that. I'm not the biggest Zeke Elliot fan,
Speaker 1: but I'm it's just I don't know him. It's just
Speaker 1: I don't want him for a second contract when I
Speaker 1: think Pollard is more dangerous, and I think Pollard could
Speaker 1: rush for a thousand yards with that Cowboys line. But
Speaker 1: Zeke is going to rush for a thousand yards again
Speaker 1: this season. But I think he's good. But I Jonathan
Speaker 1: Taylor has been great, so I would say Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 1: and I don't know if I have a close second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the club. Alvin Kamaro though I didn't even put on
Speaker 1: the line. I don't know that's he a running back
Speaker 1: necessarily like these guys are running back. He's a receiver
Speaker 1: running back. Alvin Kamara is great. He would be up
Speaker 1: there too with Jonathan Taylor. Absolutely. Yeah, this guy's not
Speaker 1: a household named. Austin Eckler of the Chargers catches a
Speaker 1: lot of balls, runs real well. He doesn't pile up
Speaker 1: the running stats, but in this kind of NFL, he's
Speaker 1: a good back. By the way, in Casher wondering, Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook rush for two hundred and well, just over two
Speaker 1: hundred yards, most rushing yards against the Steelers defense since
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor in two thousand when Fred rushed for two
Speaker 1: thirty four. That's uh wow, that's a big deal. Now,
Speaker 1: this is in a formidable Steeler defense with all those injuries,
Speaker 1: and when T. J. Watton went out, I went, they
Speaker 1: got no shot here. But you know, Minnesota kept him
Speaker 1: in because you know, Kirk d. Cousins had a couple
Speaker 1: of costly interceptions. All right, So what's the poll question
Speaker 1: we're gonna go with. Okay, We're actually gonna put up
Speaker 1: the quarterback for next year because I'm not sure I
Speaker 1: think people are gonna pick Kirk Cousins. Okay, I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's okay, It's just Jimmy g is sort of
Speaker 1: a Kirk Cousins younger brother, Matt Ryan. Do I want
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan for a year or so? I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, we do have a funny college basketball poll.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a poll. But were you
Speaker 1: more surprised that Rutgers beat Perdue or were you more
Speaker 1: surprised to find out that Purdue was the number one
Speaker 1: team in college basketball? That Perdue was the number one
Speaker 1: team in college basketball? Because PAULI goes Big Ten Network
Speaker 1: and I'm going, who could be on the Big Ten Network?
Speaker 1: And then I saw where Rutgers. Yeah, because when you
Speaker 1: think Big Ten basketball, you think Rutgers and then Rutgers
Speaker 1: with Ron Harper's son, Ron Harper Junior the third hit
Speaker 1: the game winner, and Purdue was the number one team
Speaker 1: in the country. But they won't be right. We'll talk
Speaker 1: to Brady Quinn and get his thoughts on what does
Speaker 1: Steelers do from here? And really what is the word
Speaker 1: on the label on Kirk Cousins around the league? Ray
Speaker 1: Allen will join us. We figured we talked to Ray
Speaker 1: before he becomes the second greatest three point shooter in
Speaker 1: NBA history, because right now he is the number one
Speaker 1: three point shooter. We'll celebrate Ray Allen Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: and Zachary Levi, the actor who was playing Kurt Warner
Speaker 1: in the Kurt Warner movie and he was also in
Speaker 1: Shazam and Marvelous Missus Masel. Is that right, McLevin, you're
Speaker 1: a big fan of best. Yeah, he's in that. Um,
Speaker 1: we're back. Row was very disappointed in one some research
Speaker 1: we did. Well, we'll save it. Zachary Levi is not
Speaker 1: who we thought he was. Oh he's not a member
Speaker 1: of the try No. Okay, he's made an effort, I
Speaker 1: guess to are part taking a little bit of judaism. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, So if he's if he does he feel
Speaker 1: like he's let down the back row? What do he
Speaker 1: convert just because of his name? Yeah, yeah, Zachary Levi.
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Speaker 1: Do you love Dara? Yes? Eaton Emmanuel Street. Oh what
Speaker 1: could you? I got it? Yes, sang she still looks
Speaker 1: spectacular forty six? Yes, Yes. Remember when I would talk
Speaker 1: to Turtle and I would, you know, Jerry Ferrr And
Speaker 1: I'd always talk about and I say, hell, hey, how's
Speaker 1: the man Manuel Shrieky. Sometimes you'd lead the interviewer. I
Speaker 1: would I'd say, hey, Turtle, how's Emmanuel Shrieky. H good,
Speaker 1: she'd have no interest in you, and I go, that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I have interest in her. Who doesn't spectacular?
Speaker 1: She is in person, she was wonderful and she was
Speaker 1: in Zohan with Sadler, sneaky, great role by Sloan who
Speaker 1: was in Entourage. Yes, mclauch and you turned that movie down,
Speaker 1: as I recall, right, yes I did, because that's where
Speaker 1: I was asked if I could do a Middle East
Speaker 1: accent as a cab driver, and I said, no, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm I mean, I'm I'm a well versed,
Speaker 1: you know, well traveled actor. But you know that was
Speaker 1: that was something that was probably out of my milieu.
Speaker 1: I think the timeline convicted conflicted with other acting roles
Speaker 1: that I had there. And I do regret that because
Speaker 1: I remember asking Samler, I said, you didn't tell me
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Shrieky was in the movie. Get in that, Danny. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: for I see what you're doing here, because it is
Speaker 1: a great segue as far as talking about like some
Speaker 1: of the beautiful people out there in the world. So
Speaker 1: I'll let you take it from there because I'm very
Speaker 1: comfortable saying that what Brady Quinn Sure, I'm manual shrieky
Speaker 1: to Brady can tell them about beautiful people in general.
Speaker 1: And you know, we always get bummed when you have
Speaker 1: to join us on the phone as opposed on the
Speaker 1: zoom here he is, we get the visual aspect. How
Speaker 1: awkward is this, Brady? I feel like it got really
Speaker 1: hot and they're almost you mentioned Immanuel shriamgy like I'm
Speaker 1: starting to sweat. I'm starting taking me back to the
Speaker 1: days of Entourage. Yeah, I'm not sure how to fuel
Speaker 1: right now. Let me ask this question, Dan, Yeah, So
Speaker 1: when I say that Sloan, yeah, which does that take
Speaker 1: you back to? Like? Who do you first think of?
Speaker 1: Is it a h can we hold on? We got
Speaker 1: something that's happening technically there. I think they've got too hot.
Speaker 1: I think it's burning up the lines phone lines here
Speaker 1: with with Brady hold on Brady, yes, point what he's referencing.
Speaker 1: There is a classic argument Sloan from Entourage or Sloan
Speaker 1: Peterson Slow Peterson, Oh, played by the great Mia Sarah
Speaker 1: don't go deep with me on that movie, m she
Speaker 1: was a stunner. I like Sloan, but she's not Sloan
Speaker 1: from entourage. Yeah, but you know that's a that's a
Speaker 1: very good poll question right there. I haven't seen much
Speaker 1: of Sloan Peterson from Ferris Fielders say oh yeah, Seton,
Speaker 1: that is yes, Loan Peterson. She might be the eighties,
Speaker 1: Emmanuel shrieking, Oh great, pull all right? Right? Or is
Speaker 1: Emmanuel shrieky the nineties? Or two thought? Are we good
Speaker 1: to go? I think there was an air pod issue
Speaker 1: that was causing that hissing. Oh okay, let's bring back
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn. Let me give you the full introduction here
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Speaker 1: Where were we? Brady? So the reason why I ask
Speaker 1: you the question of who you think of is because
Speaker 1: our eldest daughter's name is Sloan and usually that puts
Speaker 1: you in one or two categories. You're either a Ferrest
Speaker 1: Bueller's Day Off and that's your first recollection of the
Speaker 1: name Sloan, or you're an entourage and so there's like
Speaker 1: a cutoff of like the older folks who remember Ferres
Speaker 1: Bueller's day Off as the sloan or Entourage, which is
Speaker 1: like kind of the more cooler hip version. But you
Speaker 1: said of Nanuel Shreaky, So you get points for being
Speaker 1: more of a cooler hip version and relating it back
Speaker 1: to Entourage. All right, that's all we needed to talk
Speaker 1: to you about, Brady. We appreciate your time. Is Alliday
Speaker 1: is very Christmas. Hey. Did you see where they change
Speaker 1: the rule, the Kenny Pickett rule, where now it's if
Speaker 1: you give any kind of indication you're going to, like
Speaker 1: college football, change something immediately and nothing changes in college football.
Speaker 1: What did you think of the play and what do
Speaker 1: you think of now them revising the rule? Well, I
Speaker 1: understand the revision for it because it's a player's safety issue,
Speaker 1: and I think looking at saying as soon as you
Speaker 1: begin to go down, that's where they actually spied the ball.
Speaker 1: So ultimately it makes it a harder play, not only
Speaker 1: on the defender but on the officials, whereas they're almost
Speaker 1: basically saying he started to give yourself up, play is dead,
Speaker 1: Like we're giving you that protection as a runner. But
Speaker 1: if you're being honest with me, about it. I thought
Speaker 1: it was the dopest movie we saw maybe college football season.
Speaker 1: If there was like a Heisman moment, it might be that.
Speaker 1: For Kenny Pickett, even though he was phenomenal this year,
Speaker 1: Like that singular play that ended up in a touchdown
Speaker 1: now literally got you to change the rule, Like I don't,
Speaker 1: I don't He's not gonna end up winning it in
Speaker 1: Bryce Young will, but my man Kenny Pickett hashtag two
Speaker 1: gloves like that was one of the coolest things that
Speaker 1: it has led to a changing of a rule, much
Speaker 1: like in our show with LaVar Arrington, he was jumping
Speaker 1: over you know, line of scrimmages to block kicks. Like
Speaker 1: he kind of pushed forward that change of ruling for
Speaker 1: players safety as well. So I give him a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for pulling it off. What do you think
Speaker 1: I think it's the best quarterback in this year's draft class.
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the strides he's made
Speaker 1: every single year a pit When you start breaking down
Speaker 1: the film, one of the biggest things you notice is
Speaker 1: his game's gonna translate to the NFL level, almost similar
Speaker 1: to the model in which, like I've compared him the passenger.
Speaker 1: Mine's gonna Ben Roethlisberger coming out of mine in Ohio.
Speaker 1: He's not quite as big as Ben was, But when
Speaker 1: you go back and watch some of that tape, you
Speaker 1: know he could play from the pocket. He's got a
Speaker 1: strong arm. He'll take those shots down field, here's no problem,
Speaker 1: you know what, the twenty plus yard throws. But he
Speaker 1: also can create and he doesn't give up on plays.
Speaker 1: And he's got a little a little little bit of
Speaker 1: that to him. And he's got that kind of it factor,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what it is. I can never
Speaker 1: understand or describe it. But when you watch him play
Speaker 1: and you see him, there's like a toughness about him.
Speaker 1: He just he has it. So if I was a
Speaker 1: team looking for a quarterback in this year's draft, that
Speaker 1: would be at the top of my list. Okay, could
Speaker 1: he go number one overall? If you're the Lions or
Speaker 1: the Texans, could you see Kenny Pickett going number one?
Speaker 1: I could, yeah, if they're the ones that ultimately feel
Speaker 1: like he needs to be the guy right away. I mean,
Speaker 1: the one thing playing to him is he's played a
Speaker 1: lot of college football, and so I think if you
Speaker 1: make him, if you draft him there and you make
Speaker 1: him the guy day one he's experienced. I think with
Speaker 1: what he's been asked to do by Patton Ardus and
Speaker 1: their staff, it should translate. Well. Now the question really
Speaker 1: becomes what does he have about around him? And that's
Speaker 1: depending on the team you're looking at him. It's Detroit
Speaker 1: and or Houston not that much. He hit a bulletna
Speaker 1: coof finalist and Jordan Addison on his team this year.
Speaker 1: He's had some talent and why the wide receiver position
Speaker 1: on unpicked throughout, so that will be the biggest challenge.
Speaker 1: But he's got the mobility and he's got that sort
Speaker 1: of toughness why I think he'll be fine making his
Speaker 1: way through a lot of the adversity early on. It
Speaker 1: just comes out of whether or not they surround him
Speaker 1: with enough talent out around him. Chip Kelly has been
Speaker 1: given permission by UCLA to talk to Oregon. What do
Speaker 1: you mean, are you gonna let Phil Knight just sweep
Speaker 1: in and then scoop him off and take him away.
Speaker 1: I mean there's recruiting restrictions there. He's gonna get paid
Speaker 1: more money. That is a cupboard that is not there.
Speaker 1: I know Chip Kelly's done a good job but you
Speaker 1: see getting it to this point. But Mario Cristo Paul
Speaker 1: is leaving a team that should be able to compete
Speaker 1: talent wise in the Pac twelve the next couple of years.
Speaker 1: So if you want to give the keys back over
Speaker 1: to Chip Kelly, I mean, I think it's gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna keep them up a top at least the Pac
Speaker 1: twelve and in one of the top twenty teams in
Speaker 1: college football. But can U c l A afford to
Speaker 1: keep him or can U c l A afford to
Speaker 1: not keep him? Yeah, that's that's the tough question. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know any big money donors out there for you.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe we should call them up and ask
Speaker 1: them if they're ruining to stroke that check to keep them,
Speaker 1: because I know Phil Knight obviously tried to keep Mario
Speaker 1: Cristo ball and he maybe and I don't know how
Speaker 1: things ended their organ with Chip. It probably it probably
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily end in a bad way if you're gonna
Speaker 1: go take an NFL job and that's how you're leaving,
Speaker 1: So I'm sure they'd open the door and have that
Speaker 1: same night and one hundred million dollars ten year deal
Speaker 1: waiting for him. It's hard to turn down. So unless
Speaker 1: UCLA's well and any up with that, and I don't
Speaker 1: imagine they are, I would say it would make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense that ship found his way back in Eugene.
Speaker 1: If you ran the Steelers dot dot don what would
Speaker 1: you do first order of business next season? Well, I
Speaker 1: mean they've been trying to subtly or softly find the
Speaker 1: replacement to Big Ben, but at the same time give
Speaker 1: him enough respect for what he's accomplished a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame career, you know, throughout his time with the Steelers.
Speaker 1: So now that's the position you go draft and you
Speaker 1: go figure out how to replace. I said this earlier
Speaker 1: this season when I was watching some Kenny Pickett film.
Speaker 1: We started talking about some about Heisman buzz he was
Speaker 1: starting to build. I said, this is who he reminds
Speaker 1: me of. He happens to me playing football at pit
Speaker 1: They share the same facility. I don't know many people
Speaker 1: know this. University of pitt and the Pittsburgh Steelers share
Speaker 1: the same indoor. They share the same training facility. Like
Speaker 1: just keep the guy at home. Like, if you're Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: you're the Steelers. Do whatever you can to go get
Speaker 1: that guy, because I think he walks right into that
Speaker 1: organization as familiar as he is with everything, and he
Speaker 1: helps get them kind of back up to where they
Speaker 1: need to be because it's not a roster that's devoid
Speaker 1: of talent, it's just one where I think they just
Speaker 1: need to find that next guy to bring some of
Speaker 1: the mobility that Ben used to display early on in
Speaker 1: his career. There if you'll remember, like the big plays
Speaker 1: down the field of the hinds Ward and Mike Wallace
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Sanders like all those you know, all those
Speaker 1: big plays and Tony Holmes back in the day, it
Speaker 1: was all his like mobility and the job he did
Speaker 1: shaking guys off, making moves to make big plays. You
Speaker 1: just you don't always see that from anymore, and you
Speaker 1: get it at this age in his career. Is Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins a good quarterback? I would say he's better than good.
Speaker 1: I think you can make the case he's he's great
Speaker 1: at times. He probably doesn't get enough credit for how
Speaker 1: consistent he is. You know, the question of if he's
Speaker 1: ever going to win a Super Bowl or help it
Speaker 1: team elevate to that status, it's probably one where and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of quarterbacks that fall into this category.
Speaker 1: He probably needs more out around it than than other guys. Right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you saw Dalvin Cook last night. That was
Speaker 1: he really stole the show. Well, why did they stop running?
Speaker 1: Why did you all of a sudden let Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: throw the ball? They didn't need to, They didn't need to,
Speaker 1: but it could it could be a schematic thing too. Right,
Speaker 1: Where do you want Dalvin Cook, who just came back
Speaker 1: from injury, to be bang his head against a loaded box.
Speaker 1: I mean, you do have Justin Jefferson, who's one of
Speaker 1: the best wide receivers, maybe the best. Right now, Madison
Speaker 1: can run the ball. You didn't have to have. I
Speaker 1: just thought, you know, what are you doing? And then
Speaker 1: he threw two interceptions. Next thing you know, Pittsburgh's back
Speaker 1: in the game. Yeah, but I mean, look the one
Speaker 1: that was the kJ Osbourne. They're trying to run a
Speaker 1: rub route Kella Witherspoon. You know, Osbourne stumbles it, Kella
Speaker 1: Withtherspoon cuts in front of it. There's there's always these
Speaker 1: like look before the play, do you think they were
Speaker 1: staying themselves? Well, let's not four because we know Kirk's
Speaker 1: gonna throw an interception here. It's like, look, crap, happens.
Speaker 1: It did on that play and it resulted in, you know,
Speaker 1: again giving Pittsburgh some momentum. But you know, I just
Speaker 1: I harken back to you. It's not like they're trying
Speaker 1: to go into that game and say, hey, let's blow
Speaker 1: the doors off of the Pittsburgh Steelers and then let's
Speaker 1: let them creep back into it for TV ratings or
Speaker 1: to make it more suspenseful, because I don't know, we've
Speaker 1: played ten games this year where the game has been
Speaker 1: decided in the final player, So let's just make it
Speaker 1: another one, you know, let's make it our ninth or
Speaker 1: tenth game whatever it's been. Okay, But there's a pattern here, though, Brady.
Speaker 1: With this Vikings team. That's why they're an average team,
Speaker 1: because they don't put you away. They don't you know,
Speaker 1: it's they allow you to be. They're in the game
Speaker 1: and you're in the game. And that's a recipe for
Speaker 1: disaster in a you know, an eight and nine season,
Speaker 1: maybe a nine and eight season. No, And that's where
Speaker 1: it looks like it's heading right now. But I don't
Speaker 1: even know if that's necessarily a product of just the coaching.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think Mike Zimmer being as defensive
Speaker 1: minds is what's the run the football more than anyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's probably a lot of conversations being had right now
Speaker 1: this morning about it, because as much as you're happy
Speaker 1: about a win, usually that's when when coaches are most
Speaker 1: critical players and most critical of their staff, because you
Speaker 1: can still feel good after the win, whereas after losses
Speaker 1: you kind of need go back up. Like this is
Speaker 1: an instance where there's gonna be a lot of questions
Speaker 1: being asked the offensive staff as to you why you
Speaker 1: got away from the run game when there was these
Speaker 1: gaping holes the entire first half that Dalvin Cook was
Speaker 1: running to, Like where did that go in the second half?
Speaker 1: So there's gotta be an explanation. My bet would be
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steals were selling out at that point to
Speaker 1: stop the run. They wanted to take those one on
Speaker 1: one opportunities when they have them. Talking to Brady Quinn,
Speaker 1: Fox Sports College and NFL studio and game analyst Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: guaranteed to win against Washington, I don't know what that means,
Speaker 1: Like if you say, look all quit, if we don't
Speaker 1: win like you guarantee, what are you guaranteeing if it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen then what? Don't even know what that means?
Speaker 1: But now it's bulletin board material. For like Washington wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna play hard like you know in division against Dallas,
Speaker 1: he guaranteed a victory. How would you feel if you're
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and coach says I guarantee you win, Well,
Speaker 1: you better have us back. I mean the whole quote
Speaker 1: when you listen to it. The interesting thing was he
Speaker 1: said it, and then the report has followed up with
Speaker 1: him about it. Then he kind of was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: you know, I expect to win every game. Let me
Speaker 1: just back right out of it as like, oh, I
Speaker 1: said that, I want that. I'd mean to say it.
Speaker 1: I mean we expected what every game, So what's different
Speaker 1: about this one? I would rust back to him more
Speaker 1: if he just said, hell, yes, I guaranteed it. Well.
Speaker 1: I think people feel more comfortable, you know, saying these
Speaker 1: quotes and making these proclamations, because who actually has a
Speaker 1: bulletin board anymore? Dan, I mean, who's literally taking the
Speaker 1: clipping from the paper going let's just put it up
Speaker 1: here on the bulletin board. So everyone walks by and
Speaker 1: sees it. Oh, no, someone ran by, it got knocked down.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put it back with attack on the bolton board.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to think of any organization I'm
Speaker 1: self or part of, but we actually had a bolleted
Speaker 1: board material, like, we actually had it placed somewhere. I mean,
Speaker 1: it might go up in a team meeting over a
Speaker 1: v you know, I guess it's an iPad now or
Speaker 1: the computer system. Right, they might put it up, but
Speaker 1: it's not like you're gonna be reminded of it throughout
Speaker 1: the course of the week on some bolted board in
Speaker 1: the locker room. I mean, did you ever have bulletin
Speaker 1: board material? Like your coach said, this is what they're
Speaker 1: saying I did in college. I will never forget this
Speaker 1: I did in college, But it wasn't through our team.
Speaker 1: It was something that actually my mom sent me. So
Speaker 1: we played Boston College and it must have my freshman year,
Speaker 1: and we ended up losing. I think I threw maybe
Speaker 1: a couple of picks in that game wherever it was,
Speaker 1: and they were in a lineback in there named James Ott,
Speaker 1: I think that was his name. He actually was good
Speaker 1: friends and teammates with Ryan Floris, the head coach of
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and I remember my mom sent me a
Speaker 1: clip where he said something about what he's not that special. Sure,
Speaker 1: he's not that good in relation to me. And I
Speaker 1: did have a bolt a board material in two thousand
Speaker 1: and three, so I remember I put it up in
Speaker 1: my dorm room and I kept it throughout my entire
Speaker 1: college career. And I never forgot that. So I don't
Speaker 1: know where the heck James Ott is. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: that was his name, but I never forgot. I never,
Speaker 1: I never let that go. Paulie, bring in James Ott,
Speaker 1: James James, thanks for joining us. Brady is calling you
Speaker 1: out here. What did you play better the next time
Speaker 1: you played against Boston College since you lost the game
Speaker 1: your freshman year. Yeah, I think I played better, but
Speaker 1: I think we still lost. We were up, we were up,
Speaker 1: and I think we ended up losing my life a
Speaker 1: last second field goal in last minute. Are you were
Speaker 1: you the Kirk Cousins of Notre Dame football back then? Gosh,
Speaker 1: probably those first couple of years. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: last couple ended up being all right, Like I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the issue to last Like,
Speaker 1: Bryce Young just won the Maxwell. I won the Maxwell,
Speaker 1: I won a couple of Player of the Year awards, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that was the issue back there. How
Speaker 1: important is this game for the Browns against the Ravens.
Speaker 1: You know, you could have said last night was the
Speaker 1: season for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I get the sense like
Speaker 1: that's what this game is and taking on the Ravens
Speaker 1: not only just for I think their hopes in the division,
Speaker 1: but just with all of the height coming into this
Speaker 1: season about the Browns. I mean, let's not forget we
Speaker 1: were talking about them like a potential, like outsider of
Speaker 1: making it a super Bowl, you know, and they got
Speaker 1: past the hump of beating Pittsburgh in the playoffs. They
Speaker 1: didn't dominant fashion and so this is like that other
Speaker 1: team that I think, look dating back to when I
Speaker 1: was there, the Baltimore Ravens, it was always one of
Speaker 1: the toughest teams to get by, you know, just their
Speaker 1: defensive scheme, the culture, they're everything, and they've struggled against them.
Speaker 1: So I think if they lose this one, you'd have
Speaker 1: to start thinking that there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about the future at the quarterback spot, how they
Speaker 1: feel about Baker, are they're going to commit to them
Speaker 1: or not, and what really ended up happening in the season,
Speaker 1: why they took a step back from what they were
Speaker 1: a year ago. So it's always great to talk to you.
Speaker 1: Thanks again and hopefully we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Brady sounds good, guys. That's Rady Quinn Fox
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Speaker 1: America dot net. Mcclevin sent this to me yesterday afternoon
Speaker 1: and it's I guess a website called Blue Wire And
Speaker 1: is that right, mcclemp. Okay, So they put out a
Speaker 1: tweet or an email something that says you have to
Speaker 1: cut two players from this list, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,
Speaker 1: Brett Farve, John Elway, Joe Montana, and Drew Brees. And
Speaker 1: then people weighed in gave their thoughts on it that
Speaker 1: you know, you gotta cut Breeze and Farv, and then
Speaker 1: some people put you gotta cut John Elway. I get
Speaker 1: this is generational. If I'm cutting two players, Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is not going to make the cut, Brett Farve won't
Speaker 1: make the cut. It'd be Peyton Manning. You know, if
Speaker 1: I was going to rank them, it'd be Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: John Elway, Joe Montana. I would put Peyton in there,
Speaker 1: then I would put Farve and Breese. I mean that,
Speaker 1: I mean it's not disrespectful to them you're one of
Speaker 1: the top five quarterbacks. People forget John Elway. Was Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes Before Patrick Mahomes. Folks, Now you might go, well,
Speaker 1: he only threw you know, thirty touchdown passes maybe once
Speaker 1: in his career. Well that's how they played back then.
Speaker 1: If John Elway at his peak with his athleticism, he
Speaker 1: would do mahomesy in things. He was that great. And
Speaker 1: to me, he's a better quarterback than Joe Montana. Love
Speaker 1: Joe Montana. You know, had a first of all brilliant,
Speaker 1: offensive minded head coach, a great offensive coordinator, coaching staff
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Throw in Rice in there, the other weapons
Speaker 1: that they had in San Francisco. You know, that was
Speaker 1: a formula for success. And Joe was wonderful in big games.
Speaker 1: John Elway did more with less at a high level
Speaker 1: than any quarterback I ever saw, because I pointed out
Speaker 1: many times on this show he never had a all
Speaker 1: Pro offensive weapon. I'm talking about weapon. He had one
Speaker 1: offensive player. It was Gary Zimmerman, who was an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman who was an All Pro. Not talking Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: I'm talking all Pro three amigos, not all pros. Now,
Speaker 1: he did more with less than any quarterback at a
Speaker 1: high level. Yes he did get blown out in Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: and yes he needed Trell Davis to win Super Bowls, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but I saw Elway when a game was on the line,
Speaker 1: and there's nobody I would rather have. He was. He
Speaker 1: was wonderful. Now it's held against him that he got
Speaker 1: blown out in Super Bowls and he's not credited with
Speaker 1: winning Super Bowls because Terrell Davis was spectacular, so was
Speaker 1: the offense Heuvelne. But John Elway, in my opinion, he's
Speaker 1: second second on that list. I'll give you Brady, but
Speaker 1: I would take Elway. Then I would take Montana. I
Speaker 1: you know, you throw in Peyton. Peyton changed the game,
Speaker 1: So I would put Peyton in there out of respect.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and uh, you know Bret Farve. I mean
Speaker 1: Bret Farve was out of all of these quarterbacks, probably
Speaker 1: the most entertaining. But that meant he could keep you
Speaker 1: in a game, and he would keep the Packers in
Speaker 1: a game. I can't put him above some of these
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. He wasn't good at taking care of the ball,
Speaker 1: but Lay Elway was a great athlete playing quarterback. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: let's say Aaron Rodgers a retired in the postseason preseason,
Speaker 1: would he be on this list and or would he
Speaker 1: replace Farve? Two part question, Oh, could replace Farv or Breeze?
Speaker 1: In my opinion, yeah, he could replace Peyton Manning. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is special at that position. Is he going to
Speaker 1: have enough Super Bowls to show for it to maybe
Speaker 1: surpass these quarterbacks? No, he won't, But as far as
Speaker 1: playing it, he's been spectacular. And at his age, you know,
Speaker 1: we do focus on Brady and rightfully so. At his
Speaker 1: age and the leading candidate for the MVP, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: still makes it look easier than any other quarterback that
Speaker 1: I can remember. When he's playing at his best. This
Speaker 1: includes Mahomes throw in Montana Brady. Aaron Rodgers makes it
Speaker 1: look easier than any other quarterback. Now that's just my
Speaker 1: preference here. I'm sure there's going to be guys who
Speaker 1: played against these quarterbacks who would probably disagree. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: when he's playing at his best. The only person that
Speaker 1: I would put up there would be Joe Montana because
Speaker 1: Montana had a synchronicity with that offense. It's an understanding
Speaker 1: timing patterns. It just felt like he could be in
Speaker 1: complete control, and there was always that joke cool feel
Speaker 1: that you never felt like you're going to panic because
Speaker 1: he never had that. He never had those emotions. He
Speaker 1: never wore those emotions. Yeah, McLeman, it's so hard beat.
Speaker 1: The numbers are so incredibly different. Like John Elway one
Speaker 1: MVP one year he had nineteen touchdowns and twelve picks
Speaker 1: and he was MVP of the league. So how do
Speaker 1: you how do you reconcile that? Because the numbers are crazy,
Speaker 1: I mean far had Farve was far ahead every other
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league when he played. Numbers wise, the
Speaker 1: only thing I can go on is what I saw. Now,
Speaker 1: you're gonna factor in super Bowls. I get that. I
Speaker 1: think you factor in super Bowls. You factor in championships
Speaker 1: when you're trying to differentiate between the greatest of all time.
Speaker 1: But if you're gonna say, is Aaron Rodgers better than
Speaker 1: Drew Brees or Peyton Man, I'd say yes he is.
Speaker 1: But you might say, well he's got same number of
Speaker 1: Super Bowls or Peyton's got one more. You're right about that,
Speaker 1: But I would take Aaron Rodgers, but I would John
Speaker 1: Elway is second. And that's me grudging that. I say
Speaker 1: second to Tom Brady. I mean Tom has super Bowls,
Speaker 1: He's got the resume, he's got everything. But if you
Speaker 1: said I could have Brady, if I gave you the
Speaker 1: first pick and you took Brady, and I get away.
Speaker 1: If I take Bill Belichick out of the equation here,
Speaker 1: you want Brady, I'll take Elway. I'm fine with that. Yes,
Speaker 1: And if Elway had Elman and Welker and Cronk and
Speaker 1: Moss and a B you name them, compared I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm just saying compared to Mark Jackson,
Speaker 1: Ricky the Teal and Vince Johnson, the three amigos, the
Speaker 1: you know, not taking anything away from Brady, but he
Speaker 1: did have plenty of weapons. Brady, Brady did a lot
Speaker 1: with the little It's not like less. Welker was like
Speaker 1: the whoa huge signing. Look they just got Welker. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be unstoppable now. Yeah, yeah, I mean this isn't
Speaker 1: murderous row of great wide receivers. I mean Troy Brown,
Speaker 1: David Patton. Yes, mclub. You gave me Bill Walsh and
Speaker 1: Joe Montana as a tandem. Oh yeah, pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when you if I get Belichick and Brady, but it's
Speaker 1: Elway and Dan Reeves. Now that's not that's not the same.
Speaker 1: Dan Reeves a quality head coach. Even Mike Shanahan, even
Speaker 1: though he was great offensive mine. But when I think
Speaker 1: of you, give me Bill Walsh and Joe Montana, who
Speaker 1: I like my chances. Give me Brady and Belichick. Obviously.
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