1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: The Action Network Podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm just about that action also. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 3: All right, here we go. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: We're throwing out so spect we're sitting up to cash touchtops. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: We see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: go to win. That's incredible. 7 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 2: Being bank, small bank, I like to make money. 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: All right, this is the. 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: Ultimate kabine you want to pass. 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 3: And we are underway. 11 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: Welcome into our NFL roundtable for week two here on 12 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: the Action Network Podcast. Brendan Glasheen joined by two of 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: my Action Network colleagues. We've got Brandon Anderson, who you 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: can hear each and every week right here on this 15 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: podcast with the NFL Recap episode and first thing Friday Morning, 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: Best Bets that's coming your way this Friday as well 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: for week two, and joining him very special guest Simon Hunter, 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: professional gambler and co host of our sister show, The 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Favorites podcast, which golf Clap. We gained the top ranked 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: sports betting podcast in America to a top ranking podcast 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: sports betting podcast in America this past weekend. Gents, thanks 22 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: so much. We kicked this off last week with Evan 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: Abrams and Chris Raybond. I'll throw you a softball first. 24 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: There Simon. Biggest takeaway from the NFL season so far 25 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: a weekend. It can be betting related. Just top of 26 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: the mind, what do you have? 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: The NFL should not get rid of the preseason. They 28 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: should make it mandatory that starters play at least two series. 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's so sloppy. I think we 30 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: can all agree, just even between the coaching, the refs, 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: all of it feels so sloppy, and it's just like 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: this product what we all wait for when we love 33 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 2: so much. They got to readjust right, I'm all for 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: them not having them at do two a days. Right, 35 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: They've made the league and the off season a little 36 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: easier on the players. Totally agreed with it. But I 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: think as the fans, we're paying for it now and 38 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 2: we have the numbers that back up, right. I know 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: this is like the least amount of touchdowns thrown four 40 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: in Week one and all this other stuff. So to me, 41 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 2: that was definitely one that jumped out is. Yeah, the 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: defenses are getting better, and there's definitely been a change 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 2: to the offensive schemes, but I just think the football 44 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: has gotten so much sloppier than we're used to in 45 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: the past. So That's definitely my one gripe I definitely 46 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 2: have for this opening week. 47 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, thirty five touchdown passes in week one, the lowest 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 1: in Loweston's twenty eighteen. Thirty five touchdown passes in Week 49 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: one from NFL quarterbacks Brandon Anderson top of the mind 50 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: for you one weekend. 51 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's that regression does not happen all 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: though once or maybe not at all in some cases. 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 3: You know, we spent a lot of the offseason looking 54 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 3: at all, right, well the box, at outlier third down 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: conversion and outlier third down defense. Well, guess what nine 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: of thirteen on third down gave up two of eight 57 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 3: against Washington. Pittsburgh. They can't win one score games forever. 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 3: Guess what, Pittsburgh won another one score game. Deshaun Watson, 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 3: maybe he'll be good now. Nope, we'll get to him, Carol. 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: Lots of those positive regression signs that they'd get better. 61 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: There's still time, there's still sixteen more games. Did not 62 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: help all of our losing bets in week one. So 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: I think, especially for me, a future is better, especially 64 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: looking at the big picture and where things should be 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: heading over time doesn't necessarily mean it all got there 66 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: in Week one. In many cases it did not. 67 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: And as Simon hinted at officials, players, the coaching, there's 68 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: some red flags already in the coaching. I think last 69 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: night for sure offensively with the Jets, Arthur Smith still 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: doing Arthur Smith's stuff. We'll get to Kirk Cousins later 71 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: as well. If you're nude to round table again. We 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: did our launch episode last week. This is more of 73 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: a this is a group therapy session. We're the voices, 74 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: but we hope folks listening can also relate on a 75 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday and sit back and process their thoughts and let 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: things digest. Simon, for the first time in modern NFL history, 77 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: we are going to have no double digit favorites in 78 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: week one or week two in consecutive seasons. Your thoughts 79 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: there is this the market getting sharper, or reflection of 80 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: lower scoring as we hinted at, only thirty five touchdown 81 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: passes from quarterbacks in week one is a genuine parody. 82 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: What's the lead thought there? When I ask you that? 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sad times. I mean even thinking about back 84 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 2: in the day, like we at one point the Patriots 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: were what a fourteen point underdog to the Rams, and 86 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: a couple of years later is the Giants were a 87 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 2: twelve thirteen point underdog in the Super Bowl to that 88 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: same Patriots team. It's like those days feel like they're 89 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: so long gone they don't even sound real when you 90 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: talk about it now, because we just it's so hard 91 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 2: for the books to make a team a double digit dog. 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: And I think as the season goes along, if Carolina, 93 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: like we talked about, if there really are this bad, 94 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 2: they'll probably be our first double digit dog. Right, they 95 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: look like they might be the worst team. I think 96 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 2: they're already up to a seven point underdog at home 97 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 2: against a Chargers team that isn't very talented. So it's changed. 98 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: But I do think what you touch on a little bit, 99 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: there is the legalization of it. The books have gotten smarter, 100 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: and I think the gms across football as well have 101 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 2: gone smarter. Right, it's no more these terrible, train wrecked teams. 102 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 2: Even the Patriots, who people thought were gonna be this 103 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 2: horrible team, They're not as bad as people perceive. 104 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: Right. 105 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: The talent level is that high. If you just have 106 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 2: some good coaching and you don't turn the ball over, 107 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 2: usually these games can stay pretty close. So I'm definitely 108 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: yearning for the old days where you just get these 109 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: double digit dogs. I mean, one of my favorite bets 110 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: ever was Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tampa Bay is a double 111 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: digit dog going against Drew Brees and the Saints in 112 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: Week one and they won outright, So that's Those are 113 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 2: the kind of bets that you love to make and 114 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: they're just fun to bet, and you know we're just 115 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: not gonna get him anymore. So yeah, I think you're right. 116 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: I think the days of double digit dogs here in 117 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: Week one, unless the team is really that bad, we 118 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: just won't see it anymore. 119 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Panthers chargers, as you mentioned, at home. They go 120 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: to Vegas next Bengals on the slate, but again it's 121 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: a home game for the Panthers. You really can't find 122 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: a game for Carolina given their last play schedule where 123 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: their whole or they're on the road until like Philadelphia 124 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: way later in the season. Maybe the Giants would classify 125 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: as that team them like they've got Cowboys home, Bengals home, 126 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: Eagles home. So I don't know, Brandon, how would you 127 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: answer that question, Brandon as far as how we look 128 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: at not a single touchdown plus dog with the exception 129 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: of New England in Cincinnati for consecutive weeks. No double 130 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: digit favorite in week one or two. 131 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there is one. There is still Ravens 132 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 3: nine and a half home against the Raiders, so we 133 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: might still get that double digit favorite here, depending on 134 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 3: how that one moves. It's already risen a little bit. 135 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: We do have eight of our sixteen games. Our six 136 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 3: point favorites are longer, so it's not like there are 137 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: only coin flip games left here. I'm gonna be honest. 138 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 3: I think this just schedule randomness for the most part. 139 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 3: Like Chargers Carolina, what if the games in Los Angeles 140 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 3: to the Carolina probably they're a double digit favorite instead 141 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 3: of a six or seven point favorite. Niners Vikings, what 142 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 3: if the games in San Francisco, They're definitely a double 143 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 3: digit favorite in that game? I think two. This is 144 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 3: part of what Simon talked about. This is the ugly 145 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 3: no preseason carry over, Like we know we get these 146 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 3: low totals these first couple of weeks. Low totals means 147 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: not as big of a favorite, like that's just how 148 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: the numbers have to work out, Like we're getting bad 149 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: offensive line play early while the Lions are kind of 150 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: gelling and figure things out. That's leading to all that. 151 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: It's just a lot of that to me. But I 152 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: think more than anything, maybe just schedule randomness what we're seeing. Like, look, 153 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: last week, we had two opening night games effectively with 154 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 3: marquee teams. We didn't get to see the Chiefs or 155 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: the Ravens, or the Eagles or Packers play the Panthers 156 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 3: or somebody terrible like that and get the huge spread. 157 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: And I think that's a little bit too like NFL 158 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 3: marketing getting these big games, and our eyeballs are we 159 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: got Buffalo Miami Thursday night. We don't normally get that 160 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 3: on a Thursday night. Starting out, we get like some 161 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 3: terrible teams nobody wants to see to check them off 162 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 3: the list right away. So I think it's just a 163 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: little mix of all of the above. I'm not reading 164 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: too much into a big picture just yet. 165 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: Okay, that's a total that's already come down a couple 166 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: of points now Buffalo Miami short week. Brandon talked about 167 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: that in his hot read on the recap. The other 168 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: big total is a playoff rematch. So speaking to your 169 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: both both of your points, I mean Detroit gets the 170 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: Rams at home, and they're gonna play another team they 171 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: faced for the playoffs last year in Tampa, and the 172 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: Lions are a seven point favorite at home. Let's look 173 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: at survivor here quickly. Last week, the Bengals turned out 174 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: to be the Survivor pool trap of the season, wiping 175 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: out a huge percentage of entries across the land despite 176 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: no double digit favorites. Again, is there another trap laid 177 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: this week? Simon? 178 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 2: I think Brandon has talked about it. How about that 179 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,959 Speaker 2: Ravens nine. I mean to me, that's a trap. You're 180 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: a line. I don't know if you'll remember, just I've 181 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: have been two years ago. I bet this Raiders team 182 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 2: in Baltimore. I believe they won outright in that game. 183 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: So it's just that's a fishy game because I don't 184 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 2: think the Ravens are as good as people perceive, and 185 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 2: their offensive line could struggle against that Raiders defensive line. 186 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 2: But you know, between the coach and discrepancy, it's like horrible. 187 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: I put in a way hired standards right now than 188 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 2: you know what this Raiders team is doing, especially on 189 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: the coach inside. So that's definitely a game most guys 190 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: I've talked to this week. They circled that one, right. 191 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: They're like, well, that's a nice spot to take the 192 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 2: Ravens right out of division at home after a loss. 193 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: They kind of like that when I was like, you 194 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 2: know that that could be the trap line this week. 195 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 2: So that one definitely jumped out to me, just because 196 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: I've had so many people reach out and a couple 197 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: other people asked, should should I do the Chargers on 198 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: the road against this team? And I was like, you 199 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 2: know what, I might wait on the Chargers. I don't 200 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: know if I'm gonna if I'm gonna take them this 201 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: week against Carolina just because I think I drink too 202 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: much of that Carolina kool Aid this offseason. I'm not overreacting. 203 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 2: She's just one game, but man, is that enticing to 204 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: take the Chargers there in that spot? 205 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: We will get to the Carolina Panthers and how this 206 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: company looks like a bunch of silly people. But anyway, Brandon, 207 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: is that a trap? 208 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:49,559 Speaker 2: Maybe? 209 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: Is Brandon? Are you maybe a little smige of you 210 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: in on the island this week? 211 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: You know? To me the trap I'm going to a 212 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 3: little bit bigger picture here. There are seven games this 213 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 3: week that are anyw we're from a six to seven 214 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 3: point favorite. I think it's a teaser trap this week. 215 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 3: I think this is a giant teaser trap waiting for 216 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 3: you to say, oh, oh, six and a half, let's 217 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 3: just tease that down half a point. Just got to 218 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 3: get the win. There's a whole bunch of teams we 219 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 3: have almost half our games this week begging you to 220 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,719 Speaker 3: do that. We got the Niners and Chargers, both on 221 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 3: the road. We mentioned them already, the Lions, Chiefs, Cowboys 222 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: both at home. There's there all three at home. I've 223 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: got two more. But stat first, historically, in our bet 224 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: Lab system, if you just play six four, six and 225 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: a half point road underdogs every single game, fifty four 226 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: percent against the spread. Doesn't sound like much, but that's 227 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 3: across three hundred and fifty games over our system. Like that, 228 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: if you just did that every game, you're making profit. 229 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 3: If you just play only six and a half point 230 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 3: road underdogs fifty six percent ats if you blindly played 231 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: the money line in all those games. So just every 232 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: time you get the home or the road underdog six 233 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: or six and a half points, you're up over your 234 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: lifetime fifteen percent ROI on those games, just playing the 235 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 3: money aligne game after game, and I think it's maybe 236 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 3: a little bit we are pushing those lines up just 237 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 3: a smidge to get them into this teaser protection arrange 238 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: to kind of entice you in. So here's the trap 239 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: that I think specifically is set this week Sunday Night football, 240 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: Houston home against Chicago six and a half, Monday Night football, 241 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 3: Philadelphia home against Atlanta six and a half. Boy, if 242 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: that's not the get right teaser to end all teasers 243 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: to you know, how did my weekend go? I know, 244 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: let me just get the Houston and Philadelphia wins. Piece 245 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: of cake, no problem, cash my check. One of those 246 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: teams is gonna lose, because that's gonna blow that easy 247 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: get right teaser. And I tell you right now, Chad Millman, 248 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: I think your Chicago Bears could pull off the upset 249 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 3: in Houston. Have a little narrative switch through everybody loves CJ. 250 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 3: Stroud and Houston. What if everybody loves KEILEB. Williamses show 251 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:02,959 Speaker 3: us up in the first big prime time spot. The 252 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: Bears are too to zero, Jordan Love has hurt Bears 253 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: and narratives playoffs swing plus two fifty twenty nine percent. 254 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 3: I think the Bears have a better shot than that. 255 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 3: I think those teams a look closer than they see 256 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 3: him as bad as the Bears offense looked on this 257 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: first game. So I'm watching out for teasers and I 258 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 3: think Chicago is the one that could possibly blow it up. 259 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: Interesting. I mean, if you look at all four units, 260 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: not including special teams, Chicago defense, offense, Houston offense defense, 261 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: that Bears defense, no joke, they Indy kind of had 262 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: their way against Houston. I thought defensively, that was an 263 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: up and down, high scoring game total in that one 264 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night, Bears Texans in Houston good conditions to 265 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: a no, Caleb had beautiful weather in Chicago, which you 266 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: won't have much of Chad later in the year. Forty 267 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: five and a half is the total on Sunday Night. Simon, 268 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: you alluded to this a few minutes ago. Public Bets, 269 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: we consider that that the perception there is bets taking 270 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: the majority already of the tickets. Last season, so some 271 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 1: of you folks may or may not remember, was the 272 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: best regular season for the public in our Action Network 273 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: bet Labs database dating back to two thousand and three. 274 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: Last year, public bets went twenty four games over five 275 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: hundred against the spread, one thirty nine, one, fifteen and nine, 276 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: so a one hundred dollars better would have finished in 277 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: four digits one thousand and sixty three dollars profit. This 278 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: year Week one, public side six and ten against the spread, 279 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: adding the tenth loss the New York Jets last night 280 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: in San Francisco. What's your and you mentioned the legalization 281 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: and that component, well, the books and acts and revenge 282 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four or is the public getting sharper? 283 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 2: The public might be getting sharp, but it's also just 284 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: it's weird, like that opening week, I think favorites when 285 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 2: thirteen and three straight up at primetime, favorites were four 286 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 2: to zero against the spread, Like you know, the books, 287 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: they do move these numbers to try to get you know, 288 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 2: more slanated towards the dog, right. I mean that that 289 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: rams line I think got up to five and a 290 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: half six at a couple of books right before kick. 291 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,719 Speaker 2: So it's not like they're not trying to adjust to 292 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: all these publics doing. Brandon just talk about like the 293 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: public they chase that Sunday night. They've done it for 294 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 2: fifty years and they always chase the Monday night if 295 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: it doesn't work out from the Sunday night, right, and 296 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: they chase on the favorites. It's been profitable to them 297 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 2: for to chase on these favorites. So yeah, I don't 298 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: know what they're gonna do because I'm a dog better, right, 299 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 2: and that's that's where I like to make my money. 300 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: So it's really tough where it's like, you know, I'm 301 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: trying to be more sented towards taking some favorites in 302 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 2: spots where normally I would not have taken that Lions 303 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: team that Sunday night. But I kept thinking to myself, 304 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: this is this is a fishy line. This shouldn't be 305 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: as low it is with all the injuries to that 306 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: Rams front. And I felt like I'd egg on my 307 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: face in that fourth quarter where it's like, oh, Stafford 308 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: did exactly what I thought Stafford would do, and then 309 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 2: it turned out the bounce right, the public got lucky 310 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 2: again right the lines. The only way they could cover 311 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: those crazy numbers was it for it to go to 312 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: overtime and to have it work out that way. So 313 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: I think it's just they've just been lucky. And if 314 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: I was a bookmaker. I wouldn't start firing people over adjusting. 315 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 2: I would stick to the plan and just stick to it. 316 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: Where it's like you trust your number is long term, 317 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna give it back to you. Right. The public 318 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 2: what they want today, they will lose tomorrow. And that's 319 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: what I think. Those sportsbooks are banking. 320 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: On favorites four to zero against the spread in prime 321 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: time so far, that's Thursday night, Yeah, Thursday Night game 322 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Kansas City Baltimore, Friday Eagles Packers in Brazil. You mentioned 323 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: the Sunday night game Rams and Lions, and then of 324 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: course last night, Brandon, you kind of hit on this 325 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: with the potential of a Chicago upsetting Houston. Anything to 326 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: add there as far as the public becoming sharper. 327 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look the public one last season, they 328 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 3: lost the previous five straight seasons before our friend betting 329 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars in every public game the fast five seasons, 330 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: he's down six and fifty eight dollars. So congrats on 331 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 3: making your thousand back last year. If you're still down 332 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 3: five k. Look, here's what I think about this. Remember 333 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: the old thing about like if you put a thousand 334 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: monkeys at a bunch of type raiders eventually shut someone 335 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: all the right Shakespeare. If a monkey flipped a coin 336 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: on every game, if you just win fifty to fifty 337 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: in every game, you would go twenty four games over 338 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: five hundred overseason, about one in every thirteen NFL seasons. 339 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 3: This is just sheer random lock that we finally had 340 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 3: this really strong season and things went that way. 341 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: That's all it is to me, well said, I like 342 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: the monkey Reference. 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It is the 361 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: only the start of week two. I'll go to Brandon 362 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: first on this. The dust has settled on the opening slate. 363 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Anything you're looking to add to your portfolio Brandon Anderson 364 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: from a futures perspective. 365 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna give you a couple ideas here. So 366 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 3: number one, I'm looking at Offensive Player of the Year 367 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 3: at Devin Chan. This was one that we talked about 368 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 3: as a sleeper Brandon on the Awards pod. 369 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: I like what I saw. 370 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 3: He's sixty to one, still at a buck. He lined 371 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 3: up a receiver fifteen out of the thirty seven snaps 372 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 3: that you played, eleven times he was in the slot. Boy, 373 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: isn't that a good way to get your ling speed? 374 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 3: Like another lightning speed weapon? The ball he had targeted 375 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: seven times cut all seven passes seventy six yards, four 376 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 3: miss tackles on those, so even though he didn't run 377 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 3: the ball, I think maybe this could be the new 378 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 3: sort of wrinkle that Miami on veils is getting a 379 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 3: chan out in a space. They put him and Moster 380 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 3: in the field. Both quite a bit of that game. 381 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 3: So you know, I love to have a piece of 382 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 3: the Maammi offense, so I don't mind getting a little 383 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: bit more of that. I have four teams in my 384 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: raticle up, but I did an overreaction to every team 385 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: from week one, So I'm going to put four make 386 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: or miss playoffs for you here in just the very 387 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 3: quick case I got Atlanta to miss the playoffs. Now, 388 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: some of these are short term futures. Atlanta's plus odds 389 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 3: plus to miss the playoffs. They play Philadelphia we just 390 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 3: talked about, and then the Chiefs. They're gonna be huge 391 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 3: underdogs in those games. You can just short term invest 392 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 3: in Atlanta missing the playoffs, and if you don't like anymore, 393 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 3: you can just come back after these two weeks and 394 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 3: you're probably sitting at zero to three and you can 395 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 3: just come out that way. Plus one twenty five to miss. 396 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 3: Since NAVI plus one two five to miss. They got 397 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 3: the Chiefs next. How about that one week future if 398 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: you unless you think they beat the Chiefs in Burrowhead, 399 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 3: you can just come back on the next side and 400 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 3: probably get a plus odds on the other side and 401 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: you're out. You can just lock it in that way. 402 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: Saints minus one three d eight to miss the playoffs. 403 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: Here's their schedule next Dallas Philly, at Atlanta and in 404 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: Kansas City. Those are again all four games. They're underdogs 405 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,360 Speaker 3: in those games. I think this is probably the shortest 406 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 3: odds you'll get on them to miss the playoffs. And 407 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 3: then this one is just a little bigger picture. I 408 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 3: love Seattle plus one forty four to make the playoffs, 409 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 3: only one week of data, but number one DVA defensively, 410 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: I thought, once they kind of settle past the early 411 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: first half stuff, they look good. We'll get to the Packers' injuries, 412 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 3: the Rams have injuries. The NFC is pretty wide open. 413 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 3: I like Seattle anyways, I don't think that number is 414 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: going to stick around, especially they get in New England 415 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: this week. And that was my look ahead and hot reed. 416 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 3: So since the Mess Saints the Mess Seattle to make 417 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: our four playoff bets to look at it right now? 418 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, that's Seattle defense. That looked as good as 419 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: it's been in like ten years since that. The Russell Wilson, 420 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, Jamal Adams era, Bobby Wagner. Yeah, they and 421 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: look Seattle. You gave out Seattle minus three is the 422 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: look ahead, and you you double down on the three 423 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: to three and a half is now out there for 424 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: Seattle at New England and then some tests kind of 425 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: coming after that. Right, they host Miami, then they go 426 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: to Detroit for a Monday night spot, and then it 427 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: softens the week after with the Giants. Simon, how about yourself. 428 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: I know you're not a big futures guy. Unless I'm 429 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: sorry I'm wrong on that. You are. 430 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 2: You have to do a show all summer giving off 431 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 2: futures every episode. 432 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: It's Brett Well, I well, okay, all right, my fault 433 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: in season in season I. 434 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 2: Will if the price is right, Like, all right, you 435 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: know the forty nine ers, that was a big miss 436 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: by me. I thought this was an off season from 437 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: hell for them. I was like, you know what, they'll 438 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 2: come out slow. I'll get a nice price on them 439 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: later on, because I just thought they'd maybe struggle a 440 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 2: little bit coming out the gates. I mean, it's business 441 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: as usual. They just seem like they're just so far 442 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 2: ahead of everyone in their division, even a team like Seatle. 443 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: I do like that offensive line's terrifying, Like I don't 444 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: know if Gino is gonna be able to last with 445 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 2: that offensive line. The Rams same thing, right, their offensive 446 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 2: line is are train wreck. And then Arizona their defense 447 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 2: is like two three years away like that, that's not 448 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: gonna be a quick fix for that defense on that 449 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: Arizona team. So terrible miss by me. And that's that's 450 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: when if you're like, well the juice is so high 451 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: now you can pair it with the Chiefs. Then if 452 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: you're really worried about that, I mean the Chiefs. I've 453 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 2: seen a couple of chief lines up to minus three 454 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: ten to win their division. Now I still think that's 455 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 2: too short. Like you watch their division, even the Chargers 456 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: will win. You're just like, Okay, the Chargers get the 457 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 2: eight or nine wins, that's a great season for that 458 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: Chargers team. Are they really gonna charge challenge this Chiefs 459 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: team at twelve eleven wins? I just I can't see it. 460 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 2: So to me, it's it's boring, it's same old, But 461 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 2: it feels like the Lions are probably gonna win their division, 462 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: the forty nine are going to win their division, the 463 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 2: Chiefs are going to win their division. Like it just 464 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 2: seems like business usual, those top teams from last year. 465 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 2: So I was hoping for some craziness this season, but 466 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: I think you can just tell week one, it's like, Man, 467 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 2: the coaching on these different teams that we're talking about here, 468 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 2: that's the difference, right, Like you got Spags and Avry 469 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 2: on that Chiefs team, there's no worries. You got you know, 470 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan running on the best run blocking schemes in 471 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 2: all football. They took from his dad. That's been just 472 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 2: been working for forty years. It's all good. Don't matter 473 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 2: if it's McCaffrey or who they're going to put back there, right, 474 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 2: So that was definitely a humble pie. Watching the game 475 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: this year was just like, man, it doesn't matter that 476 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 2: they've had guys holding out and their offensive line is 477 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 2: terrible without Trent. It's it's all good when he's back, 478 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: and that offensive line's humming when they're run blocking. 479 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: Speaks to good coaching. I would add two on the 480 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 1: Packers Lion, Well, the Packers. You mentioned the Lions probably 481 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: winning the North. The good news to the Packers they'll 482 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: get love back and they only play one division game 483 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: until November third. They play that one game against the 484 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: Vikings at home. That's their only division game. In theory, 485 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: they'll have love back at that point. But we'll see 486 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: how he looks at that point and how he faers. Okay, 487 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: so there's a future's outlook after one week. A couple 488 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: more things. I'm gonna get out of here. We'd be 489 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: cowards if we didn't discuss the Panthers at a deeper level. 490 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: The audience has spoken, we're taking a bunch of crap 491 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: for it. They're pissed off at Action Network that we're 492 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: falling in love with Carolina, not just not even just 493 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: from a future standpoint, like last week four and a 494 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: half Panthers four and a half and they got lamb basted, 495 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: lamp pasted by the by the Saints, Simon the Favorites podcast, 496 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:40,239 Speaker 1: audience is absolutely livid about this. Yeah, because of how 497 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: often you picked them last year. On Sunday Night you 498 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: both discussed this at length. Are the Panthers unbetable. 499 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: Now I would say to Joe Public, that's a fan 500 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 2: of our show, I say, yes, if you don't want 501 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: to bet them not, I'm not going through hell anymore. 502 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 2: It's unbelievable to hate I'm getting from the Panthers play 503 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: when it's just one weekend where it's just like, my 504 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: hope is everything just went wrong in that game when 505 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: the team lost confidence because it wasn't just Bryce Young, 506 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 2: it was everybody. Right, the defense, the secondary was terrible. 507 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 2: I think their best player on defense, their stard tackle, 508 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 2: might be gone for the season. Like, it just all 509 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: went really bad for that Panthers team. My biggest issue, 510 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: like what I fell dumbest about with them, was I 511 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: definitely overlooked the Bucks for a couple of different reasons. Right, 512 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: I did think the Bucks would regress in a lot 513 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: of ways, But I'm starting to realize in that division 514 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 2: they might be the most stable team. Right, they brought 515 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 2: everyone back. All these other teams are a little different, 516 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: even the Saints, Right, the Saints had to bring in 517 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 2: a new OC and they just I don't think the 518 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 2: Saints are as good as people perceived, just because they 519 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 2: beat up on the Carolina team. So that the Panthers. 520 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: The biggest miss for me was I thought that coaching 521 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 2: would be such an upgrade for them, but they might 522 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: just be one of the worst drafting teams in all football, 523 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: which I should have known better. And just because they 524 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 2: spend over one hundred million or whatever in the offseason 525 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're going to correct all these holes that 526 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: they have from drafting so bad. So really need the 527 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: Panthers to win this week. I really need it. So 528 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: if I get if my fans don't want to bet it, 529 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna give them out my Moneylune round, Robin. 530 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: I just the value is gonna be too high. And 531 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: the Panthers and went out right not to take them 532 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: against the Chargers at home. 533 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: Okay, and you're Derek Brown is out for the year 534 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,120 Speaker 1: defensive lineman, right, he is out for you. That's brutal, yep, 535 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: aniscous injury will require surgery and will determine the exact timeline, 536 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: but done for the year. Carolina on the money line 537 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: right now is plus two forty home against the Chargers, 538 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: and the irony is Dave Canalis was on that Buck 539 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: staff and Baker looked even better. Right, So again, it's 540 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: one week. But that's what we have to work with 541 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: show to do today. Brandon your thoughts? Are you abandoning 542 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: the island? Have you called nine to one one? 543 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 3: The coast Guard has come in. We we have exited 544 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 3: the island with swamp for safety. Were at He's out, 545 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: We're out to me, it's not just the result like 546 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm a long shot better. I'm gonna lose 547 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 3: some games forty seven to ten, Like I can just 548 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: go on with life after that. The process is bad 549 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 3: though here, And I'm not saying the betting process like 550 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 3: the process of what I saw from Carolina, I'm out. 551 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: I don't want any. 552 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: More of it. 553 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: Bryce Young number two in the NFL and average depth 554 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 3: of target? What quarterback do you think you have on 555 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: this team? Like, the only thing we think you might 556 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: be able to do is throw some short, accurate passes. 557 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: That's the thing we want to be starting with. And 558 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 3: he's like terrible at completion, overexpected chucking it downfield to 559 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 3: who Adam Feeling and Deontay Johnson. This is the plan, Like, 560 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing here. You got time, 561 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: you got time to get there. I haven't counted my 562 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 3: division bet dead just yet, because I still don't know 563 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: the division is any good. I'm gonna bet against Dennis 564 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: Allen and Derek Caarra as more than a field goal 565 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 3: favorite every time. Like, I'm just gonna make that bet. 566 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: I'm sorry we lost. It was bad. It's very beast 567 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 3: not the start that I would have wanted Last year 568 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: Texans Island. They lost Week one twenty five to nine 569 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: against Baltimore. Very different to me. I liked what I 570 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: saw from Houston in that game. I liked the underlying stuff. 571 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 3: They were close till halftime. I felt better about the 572 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 3: Texans against a really good Ravens team. Look how we 573 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 3: saw how good they were. I don't think the Saints 574 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 3: are that good. And the Panthers barely even contended for 575 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 3: like five minutes in this game. This is not time 576 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 3: to dig in your heels. I have to be out by. 577 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 3: I will say this six and a half points against 578 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: the Chargers, like implies on a neutral field, Chargers are 579 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,639 Speaker 3: nine points better than the Panthers. In what world are 580 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 3: the Chargers with nothing but a run game nine points 581 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: better than any team like the Panthers. I don't know. 582 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 3: So you don't have to bet the Panthers this week. 583 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: It's fine, but don't bet the Chargers like it's the 584 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: Panthers or nothing spot for sure. 585 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,959 Speaker 2: Okay, look, you got one foot still in the eye, 586 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 2: one on the boat to me. 587 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: Look if you go to Expedia and you find Anderson 588 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: Island Resort, Seahawks Texans still good reviews. This one though, 589 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: might bring you down a tick, but who knows. Simon, 590 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,959 Speaker 1: I'm with you. There's still a smidge of his toes 591 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: in on the sand in the Carolina Island. 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And Actions 600 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: podcast listeners can use code Pod twenty to get an 601 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: extra twenty off. That's pod Pod twenty for twenty dollars 602 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: off a year of Action Pro. Just visit Actionnetwork dot 603 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: com slash pricing, or follow the link in this episode's description. 604 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: We'll wrap with this well, and these two last two 605 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: topics kind of work together. Kirk Cousins coming off a 606 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: major injury, didn't he couldn't move now when he has 607 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: protection and he can plan his feet. Sure, but the 608 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: Michael Pennox pick now makes a lot of sense after 609 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: seeing a Cousin's lack of mobility in and out of 610 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: the pocket, mostly in it because we know he's not 611 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: a mobile guy. Big picture problem for the Falcons, how 612 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: do we bet this team from here? I think the 613 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: Penix pick deserves a little more credit and then to 614 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: kind of build off of that, and you guys can 615 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: answer both here. Just on the topic of quarterbacks, that 616 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: looked iffy. Deshaun Watson looks cooked. I didn't love the 617 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: I thought Aaron Rodgers was okay. It was a very 618 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: great game plan. What do you think, Simon on those 619 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: three guys will start Cousins. 620 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had these questions myself with Cousins. I kept 621 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: reading from beer reporters that they just he was not 622 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: moving right and everything was really standing still up to 623 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 2: three drop and just throwing the ball from that position. 624 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: It was just nothing and he wasn't really putting weight 625 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: on that back Achilles. So it's just like, Okay, I'll 626 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: take Penix then eighty to one, and I'll take their under, 627 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: and if I do want to bet them to in 628 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: this division, we'll wait three weeks just in case they 629 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 2: did lose this game. Now you know they have the 630 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: Eagles in Kansas City, then I was gonna get back 631 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 2: on board if Pennix isn't the guy they're going to 632 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: put in after that Chiefs game or before. I don't 633 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 2: know if I'm gonna get on board with Kirk Cousins. Man, 634 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 2: it just it don't look right. And I think we 635 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: can all agree, Like, even even if you want to 636 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: make fun of Kirk and say he's just a five 637 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: hundred quarterback, he was pretty good. Like when it was 638 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: all going well for Kirk, he was a great facilitator 639 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: of an offense. And that was not what we saw 640 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: in Atlanta. And you know it's not gonna get any easier. Right, 641 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: He's about to go against two really good defensive lines 642 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 2: and you know Chris Jones who goes up the middle 643 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: and Jalen Carter who lets to go up the middle. 644 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a dream for them, knowing this guy 645 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: can't get out of the middle, so it's gonna be 646 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 2: pretty interesting. And you know the penix. I still think 647 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 2: he's only down at sixty to one for offensive Rookie 648 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: of the Year. Did any of these quarterbacks really jump 649 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: out to you guys and make you think that's not 650 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: a great bet? I didn't think any did, so I 651 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: still think there's a little bit of value there, just 652 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 2: in case that it isn't right for Kirk. And they're like, 653 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: you know what, let's just shut him down for the 654 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: year and hopefully maybe next year he can get it right. 655 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's it's all about in Atlanta and Sean. 656 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna waste time on him. I mean, I 657 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: feel terrible, terrible for Browns fans. They don't deserve this. 658 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: It's he might be totally washed. Aaron Rodgers is another 659 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 2: guy where it's like, I agree with you. There was 660 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 2: questions on their offense. He actually looked like he was 661 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 2: moving on right. And I mean he's still too, He's 662 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 2: still got a great arm. Like there was a couple 663 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 2: of throws that you're just like, man, and I wish 664 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: you weren't such a crazy person off the field, because 665 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 2: you are just the best to watch when it's all 666 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 2: going right. He's just so smooth. So I think good 667 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: days are ahead for that Jets team. They just they 668 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: ran into the best team in the NFC and a 669 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: team that was just totally prepared. You know Salah, we 670 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 2: know his weaknesses. He got out coach from that game right, 671 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. His run defense was not 672 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 2: up the tape and was not ready for that scheme 673 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 2: that they got thrown out by the forty nine ers. 674 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, Rogers, if you're a Jets fan, those three quarterbacks, 675 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: I put him miles ahead of I actually feel good 676 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 2: about him. These other two guys, I got real questions 677 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: about them going into the rest of the season. 678 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: Still, it's just from perception watching the game on TV, 679 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: and even when they scored the touchdown the Jets last night, 680 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: the way Rogers looks over that sideline, it's just you. 681 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: It is your priority being comfortable or do you want 682 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: to get coached? And I think it's more about being 683 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: comfortable because I feel like that drive when they scored, 684 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 1: how to sal and I look at it and go 685 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: he likes me. He likes me, he likes me. We 686 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: know Hackett and him or boys, but it's it's just 687 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: cringey the whole thing. But they didn't throw it first 688 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: down like the whole first half. And then they had 689 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: to turn him loose because they were trailing. But that 690 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: love z our throw, Oh my god, left sideline. I'm like, 691 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: oh boy, he can still do it. He can still arm. 692 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: Looks good when it's live. Brandon, Okay, I'll let you 693 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: chime in here. Cousins, Watson, Rogers quarterbacks that under a 694 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: lot of scrutiny, and we'll start with Cousins and then 695 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: we'll get out of here. 696 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Cousins ran zero play action the entire game. 697 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 3: They Atlanta ran all but two plays out of either 698 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: pistol or shotgun. Every single shotgun play is a pass. 699 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: Eighty one percent of the pistol are run. You can't 700 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: do that in the NFL. That's such an obvious tell, 701 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 3: and the teams obviously are picking up by it. By 702 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 3: the end. Tg A Watts like setting up camp in 703 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: the backfield is getting such an easy snapcount off the ball. 704 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 3: So look, it's gonna get better. Like Cousins didn't play 705 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: in the preseason, so this is the first chance. Like 706 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 3: we've seen that in Week one. The no preseason guy 707 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: is not going well here, but definitely, like I already mentioned, 708 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 3: Atlanta missed the playoffs. Plus one twenty five, I think 709 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 3: that I thought it was a bad number before the season, 710 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 3: having it as strong as it did, it's been coming down. 711 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,000 Speaker 3: It was like plus two fifty. I think back when 712 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 3: Cousins first signed. I don't mind the Penix idea. I 713 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 3: still saw seventy five to one this morning. In particular, 714 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 3: you might be able to wait a little bit still 715 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: here because Cousins not like he's getting bench this week. 716 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 3: So you can almost like play the Atlanta miss playoffs 717 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: and then come back with a Penix Rookie of the 718 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,439 Speaker 3: Year because if they make the playoffs after being down 719 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 3: two oh three to start out, like Penix fits the 720 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: formula we talked about with the awards. Brandon top twelve 721 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 3: pick quarterback like that is the sort of guy that 722 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 3: wins Rookie of the Year. Cale wins didn't look good yet. 723 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 3: There's not a lot of options here, so I think 724 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 3: that's the possibility. Check your book if you still got 725 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins just season long unders out there yards or 726 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: touchdowns like that is definitely a play that I would 727 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 3: look for. Yeah, Deshaun Watson, I think we're on Jamis Watch. 728 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 3: Were playing at Jacksonville this week. I have on bet Labs, 729 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 3: I have trends set up. I have fourteen trends on 730 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 3: the Browns, zero for the Jaguars in that game. So 731 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 3: this is a very Browns heavy spot. But man, is 732 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: it gonna be tough to try to bet to Sean 733 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 3: on the road against the defense that looked pretty good 734 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 3: against Miami last week Jacksonville. If it goes badly, maybe 735 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 3: even by mid game. The Browns after this game got Giants, 736 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: Raiders commanders. If you don't think this is going well, 737 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 3: I don't care how much you're paying the guy Jamis 738 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 3: is an actual NFL quarterback that could do some stuff 739 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 3: on this team. I think he actually is very similar 740 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 3: in style to Joe Flacco. Just let it rip down 741 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 3: the field and let this defense do its thing. So 742 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 3: I think we're on Jamis Watch for sure. And then 743 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm personally insulted that Aaron Rodgers is part of this 744 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 3: trio quarterbacks that we are discussing right now. 745 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers defense I'm just trying to wrap the show, 746 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: so I wanted to know. 747 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 3: But in my defense, I'm just leading into the bet here. Also, 748 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: I am firmly dead center on Aaron Rodgers Island R 749 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 3: E L A X. I thought he looked great on 750 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 3: Monday night. He had all the timing throws with Garrett Wilson, 751 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 3: get the free play touchdown, the classic Aaron Rodgers Classic. 752 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: How many quarterbacks did you see this weekend that are 753 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 3: definitely better than Aaron Rodgers right now? Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. 754 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's any other guys like I 755 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 3: can make a case for other guys but are definitely better. 756 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow sure didn't look better right now. I don't 757 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: know like Aaron this week right, yeah, Baker, right exactly. 758 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 3: That's so we're looking at Derek Carr like this is 759 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 3: the thing. 760 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: Even Lamar Lamar is a passer, wasn't great uh Thursday? 761 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, all right to me? To me this this 762 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 3: was clearly like Rogers is good. If I like Rodgers 763 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 3: coming to the season, I feel better, not worse after 764 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: last night. He looked good. Compare it to Kirk Cousins. 765 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 3: The Achilles injury twins. These are not twins. One guy 766 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 3: can't move it, all can't make it throws. Rogers looks good. 767 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 3: The Jets defense stunk, The Jets run offense stunk, the 768 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 3: coaching wasn't great. All that's not going to go anywhere. 769 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 3: But guess what defense is stink against the Niners. Forty 770 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 3: two to ten against the Cowboys last year, Forty two 771 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: and nineteen against the Eagles, thirty three seventeen against Miami 772 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,840 Speaker 3: there before. They're twenty two and two with Trent Williams 773 00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 3: over that span their actual MVP, not the running back though, 774 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 3: sitting out last night. The Niners are really good. Like 775 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 3: I'm not jumping off the island just because they lost 776 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,439 Speaker 3: to the Niners. People are all about timing and knowing 777 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: what they're doing, and the Shanahan system works. In MVP odds, 778 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is still behind Jared Goth and tu a 779 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 3: tag of Ailoa. Get all the way out of here. 780 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 3: I'm doubling down twenty five to one. I still like 781 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 3: the Jets, I like Rogers more MVP. I still think 782 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 3: it's happening. Love it. 783 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: That's how we're going to end the show, to have 784 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: one hundred tanks much for coming by Roundtable, and you 785 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: can catch Simon, of course on the Favorites podcast with 786 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: Chad Millman, Brandon Anderson. We'll be back together on Friday 787 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: morning for NFL Best Bets Week two. My name is 788 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: Brendan Glashen. Hope you all enjoyed Roundtable Week two or 789 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: on the NFL We'll join you again next week. You're 790 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: on the Action Network podcast. Action Network reminds you please 791 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: gamble responsibly. 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