1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Cast the Chronic Goals. This is not your average shows. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail. 3 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 3: Welcome to the Gangst the Chronicles podcast, the production of 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure you 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 6 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael on your 7 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: front screen. Subscribed to Against the Chronicles, leave of five 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: star rating and comment. All right, it's another episode of 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: the Gainst the Chronicles podcast. It's your boy big steal. Yeah, Hey, 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 3: you know what we got one. I've been telling you 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: eight for a minute. Man, I've been wanting to get 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 3: this catin the show for a minute. 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: Man. 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 3: He does this thing called the l a report card 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: that really don't shook the whole West coast up. A 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: lot of people mad at you. I guess y'all know 17 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. The John Paul, what's happening to dog? 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: What's the deal? Jenner Man, how y'all doing? 19 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: Man? 20 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: Yes you're sir, Thank y'all for having me. 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: Oh for sure, Man, for sure, I'm gonna jump right 22 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: into that. 23 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 3: Man. 24 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: You had a lot of people shook up with the 25 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: LA report card stuff. Man. 26 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's been crazy. It's been a crazy ride 27 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 2: for the past what three years, It's been crazy for years. 28 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: Now, you don't had a lot of cats upset, man, 29 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 3: A lot of cats not really tripping off of but 30 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 3: I see more people. Everybody don't necessarily get mad about it. Man, 31 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: what's the biggest Like, what's the worst reaction? 32 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: You don't have to it. 33 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 2: I mean when I put out the first one in 34 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, man, I was getting death threats. I 35 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: was getting people sending me pictures of my house. I 36 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: was it was. It was bad when I put out 37 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 2: the first one. I feel like now it's not as bad. 38 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: Like now this year it was a couple of dis 39 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: records like Low Vader dropped the disc record, rap your 40 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: Names all, Simon way crazy on Haigi Live. But it's 41 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: not as bad as the first year. The first year 42 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: was like it was scary. It wasn't until I got 43 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 2: the Mustard Co sign that people kind of chilled out 44 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: and hurt me out. 45 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, you had you know what, man cats and they 46 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: aren't man. People take they are pretty serious. That's true. 47 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: If people take their art. 48 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 3: Real series and you got some cats, I think once 49 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: you give them a professional level or really period. When 50 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: you decide to put out an album, you got to 51 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 3: take all forms of criticism of good stuff and the 52 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 3: bad that come with because everybody ain't gonna love your music. 53 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 2: Now, that's a fact. I think people just aren't used 54 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 2: to hip hop culture out here in LA especially nowadays, 55 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,519 Speaker 2: because back in the day, y'all have Source magazine, doubley 56 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 2: Cell magazine reviewing albums. So you know, to me, what's 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: the difference. 58 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 3: Hey, you can well, hey, you've always got really good 59 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 3: Source Mike's scores. You never had no low score. Do 60 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: you think people was more accepting the people getting critical 61 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: of their music back in the day. 62 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 4: I mean, you got to be able to accept criticism 63 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 4: and evor form of profession if it's open to the 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 4: public getting it. Football players get criticism if they don't play. 65 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: The basketball player to get criticized if they don't make shots, 66 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 4: but so forth and so on. So if you're gonna 67 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 4: get into the entertainment field of music and making records 68 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: and especially hip hop, of course you're gonna have critics 69 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 4: and people who criticize your music. And people feel it 70 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 4: ain't up to part that's just their opinion. 71 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: You could take it for what it is. Or what 72 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: have you. 73 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 4: I've never gotten personal with motherfuckers who want to review 74 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 4: or rate or criticize. It's their opinion, and I guess 75 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 4: you're allowed to have one. 76 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? 77 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you always had good scores on your stuff. 78 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: I don't never recall the stories giving you just no 79 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: booboo scores. You always had threes and fours, you know 80 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: what I mean, the least I think you might. I 81 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 3: almost want to say that music to Drive By might 82 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 3: have been four and a half or something like that. 83 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: We come strap half for mic, that was we come 84 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: strapped in, all right, man? I remember one of them 85 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: having the real high score. 86 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Older. 87 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: Could I ask you a if you had, god, let's 88 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 2: say you had got two mics or two and a 89 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 2: half mics, would you have been hunting down a journalist 90 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 2: that wrote that review or would you have not. 91 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 4: Tripp I know, because that's a journal that's his opinion. 92 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: You might have him give you two and a half mics, 93 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: and then you might have another magazine where they say 94 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 4: your shit is bond. So everybody has a difference of 95 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 4: opinions of what they feel if they like it or not. 96 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 4: When you make music, just a hit or miss. You 97 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, you working in the studio. 98 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. Dudes take shit personal. I guess because 99 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: I'm of. 100 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 4: I might be the wording of how a critic is 101 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: reviewing they shit if a nigga might take the wording 102 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 4: of that too personal, because you got to understand a 103 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 4: lot of niggas aren't too intelligent and aren't really acceptable 104 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 4: to words. 105 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: And shit, so be right. 106 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 4: So you have to understand when you're writing this reviewing 107 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: me as an if I was a critic, I'm gonna 108 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 4: be careful in the choice words if I feel that 109 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 4: this might not be my cup of tea. 110 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: And I'm a word to the factor where I'm not 111 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: gonna try. 112 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 4: To offend Homeboy or whoever's putting out the music, but 113 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: i want to make my point that I'm not feeling 114 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 4: it or I don't like this, so I'm gonna rate it. 115 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Out of five. 116 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 4: I might rate this motherfucker two. It's got nothing personal 117 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 4: to do with you as a person or who you are. 118 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,119 Speaker 4: You get me, and I'm gonna make that statement clear 119 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 4: to death. This has nothing to do with who you 120 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: are as a person, So don't say because I gave 121 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 4: you a two on a project that you might think 122 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 4: is a t in yourself, and then the homies might 123 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 4: tell you what's a tin? And then another nigga down 124 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 4: the streets might tell you it's a tin. In my opinion, 125 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 4: it's a two so and and then you got to 126 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 4: understand a lot of this is coming from a journalistic 127 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: a journalist input. These are writers and he's a dude 128 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 4: to who pride themselves on being able to review shit. 129 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 4: Some of them might be wrong in an opinion, some 130 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 4: of them by everybody, because some people might feel, hell, 131 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: yeah it two and a half. 132 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: You get me. 133 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 4: So it just all I just feel when you're dealing 134 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 4: with and you know what you're dealing with, when you're 135 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 4: dealing with certain artists and you're dealing with shit. So 136 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 4: you just have to learn how the word shit and 137 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: not to the point where a nigga want to be 138 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: knocking order your door, or you are trying to have 139 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 4: dinner with your family and a nigga might want to 140 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: step to you because he saw what he feels is 141 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 4: a is a disrespectful review. 142 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: You get me. 143 00:06:56,000 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think as journalists, as music critics were to 144 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: be constructive, so we don't need to be saying using 145 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: words like trash and offensive words like that. No, specifically 146 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 2: say what you don't like about it. I didn't like 147 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: the production, I didn't like the mix x y Z. 148 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: But when you use words like trash or weak x 149 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: y Z, those are like offensive words. It's inflammatory. 150 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, perfect example, Draymond Green just called Dak Trescott traktis. 151 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: There's a lot of the confusion over that you're getting. 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: There's a lot of feelings that take place behind that 153 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 4: because you can say, my man ain't playing good right now, 154 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 4: or in playoff times, you're not stepping up to the 155 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 4: plate delivering that that that run batted in, or he 156 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 4: not delivering that home run. But just to say, oh well, 157 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: my nigga get up to the plate. He weak as fuck. 158 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: You get me, That's that's kind of personal. You feel 159 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: me absolutely, And that's where might get misconscrewed because that 160 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 4: sounded like something personal of me. You calling me trash, hallboy. Yeah, 161 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 4: you ain't saying that I'm not able, I'm not playing 162 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: good or in certain situations I can't deliver. 163 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: You get me. 164 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: You calling me straight up trash, So to me, that's personal. 165 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: That sounds personal. It's also people like that. 166 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: When you start like really judging stuff and not being objective. 167 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 3: You know, you're subjective about something, that's when it kind 168 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: of gets personal. You're telling somebody they shit is trash, 169 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: that shit is garbage or whatever. Right, that's personal. But 170 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 3: when you objective about something, you kind of state in fact. 171 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: That's what I did. Like about the LA report card. 172 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: You broke down why each person got the grade they 173 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 3: got it. It could have been they had cool lyrics, 174 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: but they swagged wasn't right, or they look wasn't right. 175 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: You kind of wrote it all the way across, and me, 176 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: being a former A and R, I judge people on 177 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: that all the time. I might have had a dude 178 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: that had the fest music every but it's looked wasn't right, Like, 179 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 3: because you got to. 180 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: Think about Okay, we go sign this, do it all. 181 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: We gonna feel the us right. Yeah. Yeah. 182 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: The music video category and the branding category is just 183 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: as important as Cayden's flow lyricism. All the categories are 184 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: equally important. 185 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: I grid because like I told you before we got on, 186 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 3: I think when it comes to stars in LA, I 187 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 3: think like when I think about the young Cats always 188 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: said that I thought Jeeperico was like a record away 189 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 3: from being like a big star. 190 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. 191 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: I think he got some though records, but I think 192 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: he needed that Warner Records Steel to be like, you 193 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: know what that record is? That that's that record right 194 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: to put on that level. Everybody got to have a 195 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: defining record. Like when you go back to back of 196 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: the day, when you talked about Cube, he had to 197 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: define an album. I think the first album he put 198 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 3: out when he broke up with n W was that 199 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 3: America's most warned. Yeah, that that defined him, That defined 200 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 3: him as an artist to the point he's still kind 201 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: of getting defined today because of that. Like, I don't 202 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 3: think Cube is necessarily putting out bad music right now. 203 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: I think it's just a lot different than the music 204 00:09:57,640 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 3: than it was back. You feel what I'm saying. 205 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 2: I will challenge you on that Scarface single, but we 206 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 2: could talk about that when you're ready. 207 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, But we definitely gonna touch on that. 208 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 3: We definitely gonna touch on that. But I do think 209 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: that it's so many things that makes up artists. I 210 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 3: think that's what made like you're thinking about it, like 211 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: eight is going on his thirtieth summer year of making 212 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: money being a professional rapper. Right, There's very few people 213 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 3: that make it make it that length. And I can 214 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 3: almost I ain't gonna see I'm right all the time, 215 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 3: but I can kind of tell when a new cat come, 216 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: if he gonna be around for a while, if he 217 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: was gonna kind of you know what he kind of 218 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: hitting on. 219 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: He kind of on hit right now, but he may 220 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 1: fade out a year or two. 221 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: I think when you in the fads, and when you 222 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 3: in the fads and certain gimmicks and shit like that, 223 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 3: it usually go that way. But I think when you 224 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 3: true to your craft, you stand to have a longer career. 225 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: You feel me that comes with artists development, though, and 226 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: that's something that just missing. And that's one of the 227 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: reasons why I did the La rapperport card. Obviously, coolm 228 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 2: o d Had did the original rapperport card back in 229 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 2: what eighty seven, He did a with Ego Tripping magazine 230 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: back in the nineties. A few publications did it in 231 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: the two thousands, but I was looking back at La 232 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 2: rap this publication. My mixtapes put out a post it 233 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: said California ranks livest place when it comes to new 234 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: hip hop artists, and I was like, I gotta do 235 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 2: something about this. We don't have artists development. Our artists 236 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: are only focused on being popular. They're not focused on 237 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 2: their skill set, lyricism, cadence, flow, they don't care about that. 238 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: So that's why I put out that list. And it's 239 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 2: just my version of holding accountable, holding artists accountable. 240 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 3: I agree with that me being a A and R dude. 241 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: I kind of started something recently with the Homeboy Fiend 242 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: from my used to be on No Limit Records right 243 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 3: from New Orleans. We started a label called Fans Club, 244 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 3: And I'm not going to say it's like a big 245 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 3: not a We don't have plans on putting out a 246 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: million artists, but we want to do do want to 247 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: develop artists right because it's a lot of people out 248 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 3: here right now. The reason why you have so many 249 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 3: hit one hit fronter is because you get a kid 250 00:11:57,040 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 3: that go in his bedroom, he makes a record, ain't 251 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 3: no producer in there with him, and he kind of 252 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: makes this one record and to blow up and he 253 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 3: don't even know why that one record blew up. Like 254 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 3: it was so many things like with the one kid 255 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: that just had the one big record out of here, 256 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: Soak City. Yeah, the Solk City record. 257 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: They're a No Baby. 258 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 3: He made that on his phone. Yeah yeah, pre wont 259 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 3: old baby. He wasn't there, made that record on his own. 260 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: It wasn't nobody in there with him, and he made 261 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: a great record. Right, It's harder to make those type 262 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: of records as artists. 263 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: Right. 264 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: He made a hit record, but he didn't have nothing 265 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 3: else to follow up with it, right, so he becomes 266 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: kind of like just a footnote writing and coature. Right, 267 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 3: he made this really coach for a relevant song. But 268 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 3: now he's not around because the people that he had 269 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 3: around him. I'm sorry, I don't care who get mad. 270 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 3: They didn't know what the fuck they was doing. 271 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: I think he had a to challenge that. I think 272 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: he had a cool follow up with the Rocky ol 273 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Hips record with Old Jeezy and Blue Buzz Clan, but 274 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 2: I feel like he hasn't followed it up with a 275 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: dope project. So he had a big single, but he 276 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: didn't deliver a dope project after. 277 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: That's but that's what I'm saying. 278 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: Though it wasn't a project, like it was kind of like, Okay, 279 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 3: you threw a bomb, but what was next to follow 280 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: that up. You feel what I'm saying, because he had 281 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 3: another cool record. You have to follow up works of art. 282 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: You got to follow up a piece of art with 283 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: a work of art. You feel what I'm saying. That 284 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 3: part he's come with this album that was like, okay, man, 285 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: this is gonna be the album that defines the generation 286 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: kind of white white chee. He hit a little bit 287 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 3: with two of them vote it. But when he did 288 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: hit this record of my Niggas record and he ever 289 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: followed it up with My Crazy Life, Now he got 290 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 3: a cultureal moment. You feel what I'm saying, the classic 291 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: So where when you look back at that time period, 292 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: whether you like him or not, you got to say, 293 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 3: you know what, man, that time period he defined that 294 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,720 Speaker 3: time period right there, like like when this man we 295 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: on the show with when he came out with his records. 296 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 3: He you know, when you think back to the nineties, 297 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 3: you got to think about MC eight. I don't care 298 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: wok you are. You feel what I'm saying. You got 299 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 3: to think about that because he kind of gets me. 300 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 3: He was an integral part of the culture. You feel 301 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Music is all about culture, right and 302 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: I think when you get away from that, that's when 303 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: you lose, right, And I think that's why we're having 304 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: so many one hit wonders right now. Like, and this 305 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 3: ain't to pick on three one. Oh baby, I don't 306 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: know that gear. I don't know him, right, but I 307 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 3: do think that he could he could still have a 308 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: very viable career if he had someone around him that 309 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 3: was pretty much guiding him. And I think that it 310 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: is to a certain extent. And I'm gonna tell you 311 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: because I agree with a lot of stuff you said, right, 312 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: I do think that it's if you in that line 313 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 3: of work, right, it is your job kind of to 314 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 3: develop the young cats, right, to develop the people who's 315 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: next up in this culture. 316 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: Right. 317 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 3: But I do think that if you're not doing that, 318 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: that's cool too, because you're not. You don't like, don't 319 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: know rapper, Oh nobody nothing at the end of the day, right, 320 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: Like eight has had his career, but he's never had 321 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: a regular label. It ain't his responsibility necessarily to go 322 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 3: out and raise every the future generation against the rep 323 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: you feel me. 324 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: No, it's not his responsibility, but it will be dope 325 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: if og West Coast Rappers did have their own labels 326 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: and was generating new artists the way Gucci Man Yo 327 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: Gotty bird Man. They keep a new artist coming out. 328 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 2: It's not their responsibility, but if they were to take 329 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: it upon themselves and do that, it'll be dope. 330 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: Well, a lot of a lot of that comes with 331 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: independency nowadays, you get me. 332 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 4: A lot of West Coast artists tried no they had 333 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: labels to Wault Street. Nowache Snoop had Doggy Style, Mac 334 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: did wal Pool bang In. There were numerous production deals 335 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 4: for artists. But that's how I got on. That's our 336 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 4: Lich Mob, That's how the dog pound whatever. East Siders 337 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 4: niggas had labels, But the problem was I don't think 338 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 4: that the direction who shing artist was really at hand 339 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 4: in those days. Now you have so much self sustainable 340 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 4: shit by being able to use the Internet, social media 341 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 4: and push artists along. As far as that is concerned, 342 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: a lot of West Coast artists. 343 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: Want to be their own day and so to speak. 344 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: You get me. 345 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 4: It's hard for a young nigga to want to sign 346 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 4: to someone when he already has the idea of the 347 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 4: knowledge of skit. I could put my own shit out here. 348 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 4: Why am I gonna sign to a Cube or Sloop 349 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 4: or an eight or so. And so when I've turned 350 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 4: around to do my own shit, and then you have 351 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 4: to understand the income of today and yesterday, you're getting me. 352 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: Look at the self innerating income that a lot of 353 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 4: these yogatties and Gucci Man's and so and sos produced. 354 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: They're making way more bread than we were able to 355 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 4: make through record labels. It with the ability to push 356 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 4: their own shit back. Then stonies and universals wouldn't giving 357 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: up million dollar deals for a nigga's bread and artists 358 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 4: you get me. 359 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: It was just the fact of that. 360 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 4: So today you have a lot of motherfuckers who feel 361 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 4: like I can go out and getting my own before 362 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 4: I go sign to a nigga. I'm gonna go get 363 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 4: my own. I don't know what the difference is living 364 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 4: in a Tennessee or Georgia or Florida or whatever, but here, 365 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 4: the idea of nigga signing to another nigga's life, nigga 366 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 4: fucked that and that's where you get that from. And 367 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 4: so a lot of young niggas here feel like I'll 368 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 4: need to sign, motherfucker because I can go out and 369 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 4: do my own and probably do twice as better. 370 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a great retort to it. I 371 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 2: still feel like if artists were to if legendary West 372 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: Coast artists were to break new artists on the West Coast, 373 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: we would see more momentum for the West Coast. But 374 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 2: I understand that this position you saying that, well, shit, 375 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: they can go out and do it themselves. The independent 376 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: mindset is popular, and I just feel like that might 377 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 2: come from people watching like a Nipsey Hustle interview or 378 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: something like, oh, I want to be independent. I want 379 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: to own my own masters. But at the end of 380 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 2: the day, if Snoop Dogg has death Row Records or 381 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: Cube has a label, and they're able to give you 382 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: a deal and take you to a major label for distro, 383 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 2: or even just keep you independent through them for a 384 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: couple of projects, well I don't think too many artists 385 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: will turn that down if they had the opportunity. I 386 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 2: don't think a Jason Cash and Airplane James Epic must 387 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 2: die atm Danny. I don't think those artists are turning 388 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 2: down Snoop a death Ro deal this moment, or a 389 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 2: deal from CBE at this very moment. 390 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 4: Well, for you, that is I can't. The problem with 391 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: that is how sustainable is that gonna be? Where I 392 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 4: can't turn around and produce you to be the level 393 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 4: of a little baby for these new artists that are 394 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: coming up that are making millions of dollars. Thus, you 395 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 4: have conflict in the labels, and we've dealt with that before. Also, 396 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 4: you get me, you have to watch and understand what 397 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 4: you're dealing with when you're talking about a young new artist. 398 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 4: When the motherfucker turned down doing the song with Snoop 399 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 4: or whatever, Probably not with Q, probably not if the 400 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 4: deal was right. But then the whole point of that is, 401 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 4: if I'm just here to walk you into a label, 402 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 4: then you know you have to understand what that in helles. 403 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: And what that it takes. 404 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 4: Like I said again, the attitude of a lot of 405 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 4: young niggas over here is fuck that I do this myself. 406 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: That's where the shit lies. It's not thought the nigga 407 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: won't fuck with a nigga. 408 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 4: The problem is a lot of young niggas go, I 409 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 4: don't want to fuck with an older nigga. I want 410 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 4: to my own shit. You get, and that's what I 411 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 4: because they, like I said, there's a lot of young 412 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 4: niggas out here who's getting it their own, and they 413 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 4: fell with the people like in with the with the 414 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 4: places like when higher and in the in the places 415 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 4: you can put out your own projects. A lot of 416 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 4: niggas go that route unless the nigga's coming in and 417 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 4: he just got it sold up. 418 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: You get me. 419 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 4: For instance, my nigga Top Dog in there, you're getting it. 420 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 4: He was able to get artists and sign artists and 421 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 4: create and bring out because he put for money into 422 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 4: that ship. A lot of these older cats they not 423 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: making the bread that some of these younger new labels 424 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 4: are making. So you gotta understand the position that you 425 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 4: might be in. I might not be able to get you, 426 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 4: that we might not be able to pull up and 427 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 4: rose royces and do all this shit. So it all 428 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 4: depends on how dedicated a young nigga might fit about 429 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 4: his career and not just trying to put out a 430 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: record for today. You get me, that's also another day. 431 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 4: And then it just comes down to bottom line, respect, 432 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 4: You give me. Niggas gotta respect each other if they 433 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 4: gonna work with each other. And that's just hitting the nutshell. 434 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 4: And in a sense, a lot of young niggas feel 435 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 4: like there was a movement. A lot of niggas didn't 436 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 4: want to fuck with older or a West Coast artists 437 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 4: because they felt like West Coast artists will probably steal 438 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 4: on the block. You give me, that's my example of it. 439 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 4: You get me, you got if you got new niggas, 440 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 4: they're coming up on the block. You og, you're getting that. 441 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 4: That's even for yourself. You were og. You started the 442 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,120 Speaker 4: rat report. That's your shit. Whatever, you do your thing, Okay, 443 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 4: you've been hustling, whatever. 444 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: Whatever. 445 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 4: It's a young nigga around the corner that just moved 446 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 4: into your bi Okay, he's telling all the people that's 447 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: coming to see you, don't go see that nigga no more, 448 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 4: come see me, Come sit at my show, come do 449 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 4: my shit. 450 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: Now. 451 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: You ain't stopping niggas that's coming to see him. You 452 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 4: ain't outside with a picket stye telling niggas, Hey, fuck 453 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 4: that young nigga. You telling the nigga nigga, we can 454 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: get the car, We get it. Your people coming to 455 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 4: see you, My people coming to see me. But that 456 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: nigga wants to tell people that's coming to see you 457 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 4: don't see him anymore. Fuck that old nigga you're getting, 458 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 4: you're gonna fill with disrespect because you're trying to You're 459 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 4: still trying to eat. 460 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: You get me. Your doors are still opening. 461 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 4: Your people who love your shit and your commentary and 462 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 4: your show, they love your shit. They ride or die 463 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: for you. You're getting. But it's a nigga who just 464 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 4: moved in your building who feel like, I want to 465 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 4: take your fans and I want to take the people 466 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 4: that listen into you every day because why because he 467 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 4: owed news. That's why I'm the new nigga coming up. 468 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 4: So you have to respect each other. If you want 469 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 4: to work with eachuck, you give me absolutely. 470 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 2: But we've seen that practice and hip hop, even among 471 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: MC's on a even from a female perspective, little kim 472 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 2: Nicki Minajs. We've seen new generations come in disrespect they 473 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 2: OG's x y Z. But the wise thing to do, 474 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 2: in my opinion, if I was in that hypothetical situation, 475 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: you just mission. As soon as I see potential in 476 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: that young journalist that's critiquing West Coast music, I'm supposed 477 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 2: to go snatch him up and put him on my podcast. 478 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 2: I supposed to bring him in the. 479 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: Phone all of your podcasts. I got my own podcast, 480 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 4: and I want the motherfuckers who come in and see 481 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 4: you to stop seeing you and come to my I 482 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: don't want to work with you. You play news. I 483 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: don't want to work with you. I want niggas to 484 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: come to mind. Shit only you need you right, You're 485 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 4: all you not gonna walk through my door and be like, hey, 486 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 4: young brother, I think you should come over here and 487 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: work with me. 488 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to work with you on me. Want 489 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: your founds are don't you? 490 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 4: Everybody who listen to you listen to that nigga, no more, 491 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 4: I'm listening. 492 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: The chess move would be to then find another young person, 493 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 2: bring him under your unbrother and have him rival that 494 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: said person. That would be the chess move. 495 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: Come. Your chess move is to start controversy. 496 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 2: So you go fuck oh man, come, this is about 497 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: the source of double like sound one for years. 498 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 4: He'll pop up yesterday, Well, we knew how to battle 499 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 4: and rap and do that shit without pulling out a pistol. 500 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: A nigga come kicking your door today. 501 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 4: When you got a nigga right across the hall, Oh, 502 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 4: then niggas across all a young nigga gonna come and 503 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: stick you up on me. 504 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: They ain't playing that ship today. 505 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: Rap rifle nigga, you right across the ha off from me, 506 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 4: I'm gonna come kicking your fucking door. 507 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: That's the mentality of the end today. 508 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 4: It's not like, Oh, they're thising me and he brings 509 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 4: in a nigga to rival me. Okay, let me get 510 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 4: on the microphone and rival back. No, the mentality of 511 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 4: young nigga today is something gonna knock. 512 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: On this door and go homeie? 513 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 2: What switching it back to a music perspective. If I'm 514 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: a og West Coast MC and it's young MC's this 515 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 2: and me, I'm not finna sit here and go back 516 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 2: and forth with your own wax. Theoretically, what I'm gonna 517 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: do is I'm gonna go sign a young artist and 518 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him he I'm gonna let the little 519 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: homie handle my beat. That would just be the strategic 520 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: thing that's gona get you a break. You socked the nigga. 521 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 2: Now I'm coming after you. And here you think you 522 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 2: feeling get a. 523 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: Pat a pass. 524 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: You went out and sign this nigga specifically to start 525 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: rivaling me. So now you and your whole establishment is 526 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: gonna get down, come on homeyess La, This young niggas, 527 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 4: this ain't kept rack shit. This is how the ship 528 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 4: works today. It don't walk how l L and CuMo 529 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 4: D did it. This don't work how it don't work 530 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 4: like that today. The young niggas today gonna come up 531 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 4: to your building and they gonna knock on your door 532 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 4: and say where you can. 533 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: That rival You signed that sony, get down to that. 534 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: Niggas gonn listen. 535 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: And this goes in. This goes in podcasting. This goes 536 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: at anything. 537 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 4: You can get a rival podcaster to come to get 538 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 4: on the mic and get the talk and ship against 539 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 4: the other nigga across the hall. He a young nigga, 540 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 4: They gonna come knocking on your door, biggause niggas, niggas. 541 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 2: Who is that full of These days don't work like 542 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: that in LA podcast And I'm the only LA podcaster 543 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 2: to fight this year. 544 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 3: All these other niggas just be talking. But I feel 545 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: I find you scrap through by the way. But this 546 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 3: is what I wanted to say. Eighth made a point 547 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: about the south right the dynamic on the West coast. 548 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: Dejon is so different to where if ad even did. 549 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 3: If me and eight next month went out and I said, eight, 550 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: I got us a distribution deal with Sony. They gonna 551 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 3: allow you to put out five projects a year. You 552 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 3: know what would happened the first time eight did sign somebody, 553 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 3: he's gonna have to go through so much pullsh especially 554 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: if he's from another neighborhood, right, because what's gonna happen 555 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: the first time they meet. 556 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be two other casts to come over with. 557 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 3: Oh, the'se my homeboys right here, it's Pop Homie, Big Dulo, 558 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 3: he's my manager. Ain't gonna have to deal with Big Doulo. 559 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: Don't know what the fuck he doing in the business. Yeah, 560 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 3: and the whole bu shit. So now, hey, think when 561 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: you think about all the labels like towe atter label, 562 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 3: right eight, what's his relationship with all artists that was 563 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 3: on there? All them niggas mad at him for something? 564 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 3: Now if they didn't sell records, Oh, it's cues for Jesus. 565 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 3: Summari Q was fult same thing with Scoop. Everybody was 566 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 3: on Snoop's labels, mad as Snoop boss some ship. Now 567 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 3: it's very hard right now, man, to establish that in 568 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 3: the South, I will say, they gotta look, it's a 569 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 3: lot different, man, because you don't have all the other 570 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 3: dynamics at play. 571 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: Are you by other dynamics? Are you saying like gang 572 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,719 Speaker 2: politics or where is specific over here? 573 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: The game politics and just the mentality of a lot 574 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 3: of cats out of here? Man, it's just different. Like 575 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: they said, they were rather challenged you that work with you. 576 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 3: It's like, I'm gonna tell you a prime example, and 577 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: I ain't gonna say the artist's name. I could convince 578 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 3: one of the homies to start a label. Right, well 579 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 3: known dude, I bought an artist up that had a 580 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 3: had some shit going on. Right, we had already had 581 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 3: this place set up with the with the major label 582 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: that we was with. Right, we said, we got this 583 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: one kid, we want to do something. What we need 584 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: to punction it? We need we just need a half 585 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 3: a million dollars. Right, They was with it. The dude 586 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: come to the meeting. Before he even get to meet 587 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: the dude, he ought there we talking. He like, I'm like, yeah, 588 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: we canna get you all a record, won't do He's like, 589 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: I want to do no song with that old wash stuff. 590 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: Nigga and he don't know this man af about to 591 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: give him a half a million dollars. Whole shit just 592 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: got fucked up before we even got to go on 593 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 3: the door. Eight before it even got started. He calling 594 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 3: somebody washed up and he hasn't even begin to step 595 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: on the porch. Shit man, These LA rappers. I'll be 596 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: the first to say, maybe I should have leed with 597 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 3: this disclaimer. I'm not saying it'll be easy to work 598 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: with signed LA rappers. I know more than anybody that 599 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 3: dealing with New LA rappers, young LA rappers is probably 600 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: the most stressful thing on the planet. Their disposition, their psychology, 601 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 3: their mindset is bullshit. 602 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 2: They're late to everything, they don't keep they words scandaloss, lazy, entitled, 603 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: have a negative disposition and outlook on work XYZ. I 604 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 2: can go on and on. I have a million and 605 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: one horse stories. You gotta think. I do a magazine 606 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 2: cover every year ten a New LA Rappers called the 607 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: LA Freshman Cover. It's a be my six year doing it. 608 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: I deal with these rappers on a regular basis. It's 609 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: extremely difficult. It stresses me out. I'm bored underneath this hat. 610 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, Like I'm stressed the fuck 611 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 2: out working with these new LA rappers. Nonetheless, somebody still, 612 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: unless we want West Coast hip hop to die, somebody 613 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: still has to take these new LA rappers under their wings, 614 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: teach them how to write songs, teach them how to 615 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 2: form good records. Where's the artist development that we asked 616 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: them to have, Like, somebody has to develop them. That's 617 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: all I'm saying. If the ogs could sit down with 618 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 2: these artists, teach them how to write a dope record, 619 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: teach them how to do a rollout, teach them how 620 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: to sequence a project X y Z, I feel like 621 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: it'll really benefit them. That's all I'm saying. 622 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: Despite the stress, I'm always I think that's good advice. 623 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 4: I mean for someone who's willing to take it and listen. 624 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 4: First of all, like he said, this is a different 625 00:30:52,320 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: time in my days. Somebody like Iced Tea or somebody 626 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 4: like niggas who schooled me. I got fucked for my publishing, 627 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: but I dealt with a nigga who had an independent label, 628 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: you know what so forth. But a lot of that 629 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 4: came from being signed to a major. If a nigga 630 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: like Toddy T or Easy Edie, what have would has 631 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 4: wanted to sign me and tell me, we need to 632 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 4: do this. You need to write song. You need to 633 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 4: be able to make a Niggers hit for the radio. 634 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: You need to. 635 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 4: I would have been willing to take that advice. And 636 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 4: that advice was given to you get me when you 637 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: signed to Epic or if you was in the studio 638 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 4: work a nigga would tell me, Okay, we need to. 639 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 4: I wasn't necessarily because already had stories and songs in 640 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 4: my head. I knew how to construct a song by 641 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 4: listen than to the dudes before me and give me 642 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 4: you write six, you write three sixteens. 643 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: Or back then it was four. You're getting right. 644 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 4: Back then you had to do four sixteens and then 645 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 4: you had a break in the hood, and then you 646 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 4: had to have a me in the song. And it 647 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 4: was aimed to try to get a song on the radio, 648 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 4: because that's how shit was. And then we went on 649 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 4: promo tour and we went to all the different record 650 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 4: stores and we met the fans and we would sign 651 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: black and white photos, and then we did promo runs 652 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 4: to where we would go to each major city and 653 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 4: hook up with the lay Bullet and they would take 654 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 4: us to radio and do it. So definitely you had 655 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 4: artists development and niggas in the studio tronic construct. 656 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: The whole problem was we were will it. 657 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 4: You're getting and not to say all artists, but today 658 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: art you're getting me. Hopefully some of these new artists 659 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 4: who are developing themselves and sitting in their kitchens or 660 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 4: their garages or wherever they recording themselves, they would want 661 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: to take direction from a nigga who has had a 662 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: thirty in year career and not to say, oh, nigga, 663 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 4: you ain't got no platinum chains, or you ain't you 664 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: ain't riding on no G four's or in no Bentley 665 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 4: coops and shit like that. But it's still sustainable to 666 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 4: the fact of look, I'm still I'm still a ramp 667 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 4: at thirty years as an artist. You get me, you 668 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 4: got catalog. Fuck the Platinum Jays. Xy I said, you 669 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 4: got catalog. So basically, like I said, it would be 670 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 4: wooling and definitely you be out there looking for somebody 671 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 4: who was willing to take that knowledge and know how 672 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: to create instead of niggas who just want to get 673 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 4: in the booth and spit a couple of lines about 674 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 4: the ops and where. 675 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: We're from and. 676 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 4: Make a little catchy little record at the time, and 677 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: then next thing, you know, two years later, you stuck 678 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 4: in the mix because at the end of the day, 679 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 4: people want to hear developed. You feel me, definitely. You 680 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 4: get if I hear a young hot nigga and he 681 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: just spitting all over the place and be fire, and 682 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, yeah, this nigga. 683 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: Could be hot. 684 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 4: But you gotta be willing to take the advice, and 685 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 4: you got to be willing to take the criticism as well, 686 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 4: because your memory. 687 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: You can't tell a lot of. 688 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 4: Niggas today that that shit does sound good without them 689 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 4: getting offended. 690 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: You feel me, I'm gonna tell you now, design ain't 691 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: you to tell you? He have? I had conversations with 692 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: you about you starting a label. 693 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't like I said, I wouldn't mind because one, 694 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 4: first of all, I'm not a nigga looking to capitalize. 695 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: Awf of shit, You feel me. 696 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 4: If a nigga hot, be hot, if a nigga sell, 697 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 4: If if I sell ten thousand records and he sell 698 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 4: ten million, I'm not on the path to interfere with 699 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 4: that you're getting. I know, I know what it is 700 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 4: to be an executive, the nigga behind the scenes. I 701 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 4: never wanted fame in the first place, So that's a 702 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 4: lot of that has a lot to do with it. 703 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: You get me. 704 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 4: You have to be willing to be a real executive 705 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 4: when you're taking on the role, the role as a 706 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 4: late you have to be willing to go in your 707 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 4: own and infest your all. You can't be taking the 708 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 4: mother for the nigga give you one hundred thousand, you 709 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 4: want to stick sixty in your pocket and think you're 710 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,320 Speaker 4: gonna get shit done with forty. 711 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: That's where a lot of shit fucks up today. 712 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 4: You get me. Niggas don't know how to invest themselves 713 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 4: into the projects. You get me, or a nigga don't 714 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 4: give me two hundred and fifty thousand. I done played 715 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: a couple of stones on this nigga. Or I don't 716 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 4: vouch for a nigga because a nigga gonna take my word, nigga. 717 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 4: I got a nigga down the street and they encamped 718 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 4: in or wherever nigga hot heat. 719 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: The next so and so, nigg gonna give me the brill. 720 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna play one two songs and they gonna be like, oh, yeah, 721 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 4: let's get it. But then you gotta be executive enough 722 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 4: to go, Okay, they gave me two fifty, I need 723 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 4: to invest this two fifty and not take two hundred thousand, 724 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 4: stick it in my pocket, go buy me a new 725 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 4: width in a chain, and then tell this young nigga 726 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 4: you though HeiG five grand and thinking he gonna be happy. 727 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,359 Speaker 4: And then when the project ain't shit because there ain't 728 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 4: no money invested. Now you got issues niggas out to 729 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,880 Speaker 4: learn that be But it was a lot of cant 730 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 4: sleeve that weren't up being executive, and you gotta look 731 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,359 Speaker 4: at it like that. That's what it is, and that's 732 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 4: that's what I think. That's what happens with a lot 733 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 4: of successes of those labels you mentioned in the beginning. 734 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 4: You get me, boots me and willing to take a 735 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 4: million dollars you feel me, You get me, I'm willing 736 00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 4: to invest that in the artist. Oh got me, I'm 737 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 4: willing to invest you get me money into a glow 738 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 4: Riller or whatever, because the return is gonna be greater 739 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 4: me as an executive. It's gonna it's gonna be greater 740 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 4: than a motherfucker feeling like ooh, I gonna get a 741 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,560 Speaker 4: million dollars and stick at least half in my pocket. 742 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 4: You feel me. You have to be a true executive 743 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 4: when you're dealing with artists, and you have to. That's 744 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 4: that's why I say it's a lot of differences between LA, 745 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,839 Speaker 4: but LA work in mysterious ways. 746 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: Man. 747 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 2: It's the mentality. It's desert the mentality. 748 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 4: Well, nigga's all the time, man, Nigga LA work in 749 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 4: a different motherfucking place. 750 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 1: Man. 751 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 2: I know this is your show, but let me ask you, 752 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 2: what was your experience being signed to who begging? Because 753 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: you've been signed to an artist before. 754 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 4: My thing, Like I say with this, when you're signed 755 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 4: to another artist or another everybody, mentality is different, you 756 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:17,960 Speaker 4: feel me. We have had examples of niggas who have 757 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 4: been artists themselves and had successful runs. 758 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 1: At being executives and labels. You're getting Master P was 759 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 1: an artist. 760 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 4: Himself, highly highly lucrative, and highly successful as being an 761 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 4: executive for No Limits Records, Baby for Cats Money, jay 762 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: Z for Rockefella, You get me Drewood aftermath when it 763 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: came to EM and M in fifty and. 764 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: But some sometimes. 765 00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 4: You, I would say, sometimes the executive position is just 766 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 4: the name on the door for some niggas. You feel me, 767 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 4: because if I'm a nigga putting out records and you 768 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 4: putting out records, and you're putting out the same records 769 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 4: I'm putting out, it might be a confusion of how 770 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 4: much promotion or how much I want you to succeed. 771 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 4: You get me, Okay, it's always competition. I will give 772 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,800 Speaker 4: a fuck, but sometimes you have to have that mind 773 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 4: state of Okay, this competition, but at the end of 774 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 4: the day, I'm still the executive. 775 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 1: You feel me. 776 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: And so if I can put out hs record and 777 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 4: it's selling million copies, and I can pull out my 778 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 4: record and it's selling million copies, I'm only looking this 779 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 4: double successful you're getting. But sometimes situations to where my 780 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 4: record gonna come out and it's gonna sell a million 781 00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 4: copies because they got the machine behind it, right, you know. 782 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 4: It's the it's got the niggas going the radio, it's 783 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 4: got the motherfucker's hitting up the record stores and street teams. 784 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: And all of that. 785 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 4: As far as when it comes to an artist that 786 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,359 Speaker 4: I'm developing or on my label. 787 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: I might not go pay for all that shit. 788 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,840 Speaker 4: At the end of the day you feel me, I 789 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 4: might not go pay niggas to go run the radio. 790 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 1: I might not pay niggas to go do this. 791 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 4: I'm not looking at it as the fact of if 792 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 4: I do that, I could have double the success. And 793 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,720 Speaker 4: so sometimes that's where it falls. That's where it falls. 794 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 4: You have to be truly invested as being an executive. 795 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 4: And like I said, when you signed to another r 796 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 4: this who has a label, you would think that a 797 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 4: mentality is to push. 798 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: You just as hard as you're being pushed, right, you. 799 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 2: Would think that. But like you said, that competitiveness, I 800 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 2: think it works best when there's a CEO or president 801 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,439 Speaker 2: or another executive there to run the day to day. 802 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 2: I think Ben, it makes like a Dame Dash with Rockefeller, 803 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 2: Like Okay, jay Z. You could focus on being a 804 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: rapper in the face of the company, but I'm here 805 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,320 Speaker 2: to run the day to day of the roster. 806 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 4: Say yeah, I mean if you're going to have a 807 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 4: successful label, I feel like you know, maybe even if 808 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 4: you are an artist. But having that executive mind state 809 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 4: is where it takes place. Having that corporate mind state, 810 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 4: you want to see the company succeeds as it's not 811 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 4: so much as the individual inside the corporation you're getting me, 812 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 4: I'm I'm flying on lear jets and I'm hying and 813 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 4: Bentley coops. But you know, my niggas got cameras and 814 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 4: my niggas got chargers and shit like that. So I'm 815 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 4: hopping off a helicopters and shit like that with platinum 816 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 4: chains and my niggas got little ropes and shit and 817 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 4: whatever whatever. So it all depends on where your mind 818 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 4: state is, on how successful you want to see your artists. Me, 819 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, if I said, if 820 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 4: I had a label and a nigga invested two three 821 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 4: million dollars in my label, you be careful on how 822 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 4: many people you sign, and then you want to develop 823 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 4: a motherfucker. So I look at like that three four 824 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 4: million got to go into the lake when it's got 825 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 4: to go into developing artists, because at the end of 826 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 4: the day, shit, if I can turn that and I 827 00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 4: can get these motherfuckers to sell a million two million, 828 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 4: that's just gonna. 829 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: Make it great for us around here. 830 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,880 Speaker 4: Not so much as if I take that advance money 831 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 4: and stick it in my pocket. And because these motherfuckers 832 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 4: have no knowledge of how the record business go or 833 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 4: advances or upfront money or whatever. I'm gonna tell him, Hey, 834 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 4: I got fifty grand for you to do this record, 835 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 4: and all and all the nigga done walked away with 836 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 4: a quarter of a million. So gotta be smart enough, 837 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 4: and you got to know who you're dealing with. As 838 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 4: far as whoever you signed. 839 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:36,880 Speaker 3: To, Facts Facts, I agree with that they made a 840 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 3: valid point. A lot of people don't understand the economics 841 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 3: of actually putting out an artist. You're going to get 842 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 3: the money from a label because it is to put 843 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 3: out a record. And I heard you mentioned Top Dog 844 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 3: Entertainment earlier. There hasn't been too many tds on the 845 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 3: West coast, right. Td was an anomaly. I was there 846 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 3: in the beginning with them, and you just had a 847 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 3: bunch of people that were homebreing. 848 00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: You had to do. 849 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 3: Top didn't have no interest in being entertainer. He didn't 850 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 3: have no interest in being a rapper, producer or nothing else. 851 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 3: He was just sol your CEO, and that's what he did. 852 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 3: He smashed. He was very he was relentless man. He 853 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 3: was gonna get it regardless of what he had to do. 854 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:12,359 Speaker 1: Right. 855 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,320 Speaker 3: So, when you got a force like that and you 856 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 3: got the one thing he did a lot of those 857 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,359 Speaker 3: kids to do is go back there and actually rap 858 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 3: and make music, right and to fill up they crab. 859 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 3: He had that fact that for him, but he also 860 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 3: had a lot of structure behind that. And it's very 861 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 3: hard man to get four or five people in the 862 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 3: same place. You can't get two people in the same 863 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 3: place in la right. The following instruction he had, he 864 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 3: had kline, he had school Boy Q had Ja brought 865 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 3: it back and so he had four different cash back 866 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 3: and you see what it on balloon to bubb it 867 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 3: into right. Just it ain't it ain't been no hell 868 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 3: a long time. But it took them. It took a 869 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 3: lot of work, you know what I'm Sayingcause people were 870 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 3: sleeping on them at first. So I do think that 871 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 3: what you're saying is right in one sense. Right, you 872 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 3: just have to have the moon and the stars, got 873 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 3: a kind of all the line for that to come together, right. 874 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,400 Speaker 3: Like he said, I think eight would make a good executive. 875 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 3: I know for sure he could do the right things 876 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 3: with the budget. I know for sure he's not gonna 877 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 3: be out there trying to push the artists out the way, 878 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 3: So he could be a photo ops. 879 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 1: Hell, I think you play. 880 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 4: If I was in the position of talk and I 881 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 4: had three or four young niggas who I knew could 882 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 4: spit and they were hungry to progress, and I could 883 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 4: show them the ropes, not necessarily change their styles or 884 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 4: what he wrote about, to show them how to construct, 885 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 4: show them. With the music business. 886 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: Back in the days and our niggas had to. 887 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 4: Promote and go on the road and do all that. 888 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 4: You got the Internet now, social media, so all of 889 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:53,360 Speaker 4: that cut out. I would definitely invest in motherfuckers, have 890 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 4: them come into this, But it's all about in willing 891 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 4: how much they would want to be invested and come 892 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 4: into the studio and develop and not like just Okay, tomorrow, 893 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 4: let's put out a wreck. You get me, you know 894 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Eight you eight man, you've been put 895 00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 4: my shit out tomorrow or woof, you won't. But like 896 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 4: you said, it's the difference between rapping on the mic 897 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 4: and just rying and then creating music and songs that's 898 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 4: gonna be able to play and you're gonna be able 899 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 4: to have a catalog that a motherfucker can look up 900 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 4: thirty years from now and go, Damn, that shit's still 901 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 4: playing you feel Me. 902 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 1: So it's a two ways. It's a two way street. 903 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 4: You just got to be able to work with a 904 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 4: motherfucker who's willing to work with you, I believe. But 905 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 4: there's a lot of hongry young artists out here who's 906 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 4: on to come up who just take the knowledge of 907 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,920 Speaker 4: that you feel me. Even if you want to fuck 908 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 4: with yourself and develop yourself, learn how to start creating 909 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 4: music that's gonna be able to withstand the test of 910 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,280 Speaker 4: time and you can look up fifteen years from now 911 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 4: and the niggas wanting to play your music because it 912 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 4: meant something you feel me, and that's whatever form of 913 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it, if it's from the 914 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 4: streets or it's pop, or it's whatever, whatever you want 915 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 4: to do. Man, you just got to be able to 916 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 4: know how to create and develop yourself into an aspect 917 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 4: of where motherfuckers is gonna want to spend their money 918 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 4: and they gonna want more. 919 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 1: Of your shit. 920 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely so. Yet definitely I feel like from this conversation, 921 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm learned we got to meet in the middle. The 922 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 2: New La rappers gotta be willing to meet in the 923 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,399 Speaker 2: middle with the ol G They got to be willing 924 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 2: to accept the criticism except the help accept the signings, 925 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,160 Speaker 2: and then the ol g rappers got to extend that 926 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 2: same olibresh. I'm assuming we just got to meet in 927 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 2: the middle of works because your respect go both ways. 928 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,439 Speaker 4: It took a lot to get here and for them 929 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 4: to be able to do what they do today. 930 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: It took a lot that we had to. 931 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 4: Go through for a lot of young artists to be 932 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 4: able to say what they want to say, rep how 933 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 4: they want to rep and create what they want to create. 934 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:09,920 Speaker 4: You got to remember fifty years ago they what getting 935 00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 4: on us to have this shit. This is our own lane. 936 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 4: So being able to accept criticism and help and respecting 937 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 4: where the music started from and where it's came from. 938 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 4: You know, y'all got your own style and y'all got 939 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 4: your own way of getting down in the way of expressing. 940 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 4: But you know it was set forth for us. We 941 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 4: had to fight for y'all to be able to do that. 942 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 4: People hear that talk and whatever and the ogs and whatever. 943 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 4: But it was a lot because there was a point 944 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,320 Speaker 4: to where you can hear your music Indi and everywhere 945 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,719 Speaker 4: that but at one point they didn't even want to 946 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 4: hear your shit, you get it. I won't give a 947 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 4: fuck how much money they started made. There were motherfuckers 948 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 4: out to stop this sh you're getting. Literally, there were 949 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 4: motherfuckers out who were powers that be, who were sitting 950 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 4: up in positions where they were suiting ties you get me, 951 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:15,240 Speaker 4: and took folks and political motherfuckers you get. 952 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: Me, wanted to tucker you give me. They wanted to 953 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: stop this ship. 954 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 4: And we took the motherfucking lups, and we took the 955 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,880 Speaker 4: disrespect and the bannings and the not being able to 956 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 4: hear your shit, and police fucking shit and shutting your 957 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,279 Speaker 4: shows down and all that type of shit. We went 958 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 4: through all that. Look what easy in them had to 959 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 4: do when they had the Pojese. They were going to 960 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,040 Speaker 4: jail and getting chased out of arenas and told like, 961 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 4: you can't perform this, and you can't say fuck, you 962 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 4: can't do this, you can't gyrate on stage and do 963 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 4: all that think of with two live crew had to 964 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,760 Speaker 4: go through for motherfuckers able to be have the bitches 965 00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:05,920 Speaker 4: half nked in videos now and flossing and bikinis and 966 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 4: doing all kind of weird and crazy shit. You would 967 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 4: do whatever the fuck you want to now. And that's 968 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 4: because we took the motherfucking we got the brick stone 969 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,280 Speaker 4: at us, so niggas can be able to do whatever 970 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 4: the fuck they want to do today, you know what 971 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 4: I'm saying. So that's where I think a lot of 972 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 4: respect lies and for and so if a nigga want 973 00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,479 Speaker 4: to if an older nigga want to do a rap 974 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 4: song where he wanted to create shit, I just tell 975 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 4: older niggas, man, you just got to be able to compete. 976 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,640 Speaker 1: You're getting because you are in a young man's game. 977 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 4: And even though you still got a fan base, and 978 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 4: they are still people forty and forty five and fifty 979 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 4: who still listening to music, and they still might want 980 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 4: to pick up an eight CD or ice cube or whatever, 981 00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 4: but you gotta have some good shit. You can't just 982 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,600 Speaker 4: put out anything because you got a name and a 983 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,800 Speaker 4: fan base. And that's my that's my number one point 984 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,720 Speaker 4: when it comes to niggas from my generation who still 985 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 4: want to dab in this in this game, you have 986 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 4: to be able to create something that's official, just put 987 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 4: out in the garbage. And that's just point blunt. 988 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 2: At any stage. Now, Hey, I saw you on I'm 989 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 2: trying to remember the podcast is with Court. It's a 990 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,399 Speaker 2: larr I saw that. It's a viral clip going around. 991 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 2: How you even reposted it. Basically the quote is you're saying, 992 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 2: like the early age, the early stage of LA rap, 993 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 2: West Coast hip hop, in your opinion, was either trash 994 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,200 Speaker 2: or you said something to that effect, the techno music, 995 00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 2: that electro music, the dance music before in that way, 996 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 2: before Ice Tea, before Tiddy t you were saying LA 997 00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,040 Speaker 2: rappers tragedy. Do you feel I feel like it's going 998 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,799 Speaker 2: back to that. I feel like it's kind of like 999 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,799 Speaker 2: a three sixty a full circle moment. We've gone back 1000 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 2: to where it's like TikTok dance. Everything's clown dance of music. 1001 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 2: But like that where we started. 1002 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,680 Speaker 1: You can get some. 1003 00:51:59,200 --> 00:51:59,839 Speaker 2: Said that plan. 1004 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 4: Like me as a young nigga coming up who would 1005 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 4: take summer vacation trips back to down South, and I 1006 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 4: had older cousins who they got music from the East 1007 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,600 Speaker 4: Coast before we did, so to go down to those 1008 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 4: places and they hear those early rappers coming out of 1009 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 4: New York and then to come home and turn on 1010 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 4: the radio and we had none of that. You get me, 1011 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 4: It might have been a few who were trying to 1012 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 4: get to a level of sustaining West Coast hip hop. 1013 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:48,360 Speaker 4: But to me, it was all dance, techno tronic. It 1014 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 4: was all it was. It wasn't what we are today 1015 00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 4: or what developed from Easy E and Toddy t and that, 1016 00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 4: And so I felt like the music didn't give us 1017 00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:07,919 Speaker 4: justice on the West Coast. Before niggas like Ice Tea 1018 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 4: or niggas like Shit, we were banging school E. 1019 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 1: D you feel me? 1020 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 4: Because that was gangster shit to us, because that's you 1021 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,880 Speaker 4: had gangster niggas way before hip hop and rap music, 1022 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 4: and so our go to was that in Parliament and 1023 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 4: Marvin Gaye and shit like that, because we had no 1024 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 4: I don't think we had a decent representation of us 1025 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 4: in the neighborhoods until early Toddy Tea, Mixed masters A, 1026 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 4: Mixed Master Ken, and then with the development of Easy 1027 00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 4: and NWA, we got out of that Bobby Jimmy and 1028 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,399 Speaker 4: the critters and we got out of the Wrecking Crew 1029 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 4: era nothing. And I don't like the this niggas because 1030 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 4: they be thinking, are dissing and I'm just giving my 1031 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 4: opinion of what I heard. 1032 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 1: That's what I heard coming out of dude. 1033 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 3: It was a lot of white music like I've got 1034 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 3: the ultimate respect man for for. 1035 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: What's my boys? Yes we're here, the dream Team, the 1036 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: dream team and all. 1037 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 4: The evening the street out of I banged the ship 1038 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,759 Speaker 4: out of Egypt, you get, I banged the ship out 1039 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,839 Speaker 4: of Egypt, Egypt, and my beat goals boom And what 1040 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 4: is a DJ if he can't scratch? That started to 1041 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 4: me was waking up our element of West Coast music, 1042 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 4: because it wasn't. 1043 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: Last said Wrecking Crew had turned off the lights that 1044 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: you knowing they were. 1045 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 4: I don't know, Lonzo had that direction you feel Me, 1046 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 4: which was nothing was wrong with it, But it wasn't 1047 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 4: nw A you feel Me. 1048 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: It wasn't Toddy t. It wasn't mixed Master Spade. 1049 00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 4: And as a young nigga thirteen fourteen, growing up, introduction 1050 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 4: in the streets and gang banging and niggas selling dope 1051 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 4: and seeing police and getting all this motherfucking information, the 1052 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 4: music didn't match what was going on in the neighborhoods. Now, 1053 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 4: not to say niggas wasn't going to the clubs and 1054 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,800 Speaker 4: partying and doing their thing, but I was fourteen years old. 1055 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 4: I wasn't going to no more fucking clubs. I was 1056 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 4: on the streets, so the street music didn't reflect until 1057 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:34,880 Speaker 4: we started here in Schooley DPSK. We heard six in 1058 00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 4: the Morning, we heard Toddy Ta and Nick Spasist fade 1059 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 4: underground tapes and so the development of our music started, 1060 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 4: and so it kind of pushed out, remember, free music started. 1061 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 4: It pushed out that that that form of what was 1062 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,040 Speaker 4: before that you give me, which to me was a 1063 00:55:54,040 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 4: lot of dance technotronic fas upbeat. 1064 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 1: Let's just pau play. 1065 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,479 Speaker 3: Didn't have a good la LA before gangs rap, before 1066 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 3: those groups that Adas mintioned and came around. Right, you 1067 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 3: gotta remember something, the whole dance sound LA was very 1068 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,799 Speaker 3: dance stripping, right, A lot of awkward net sets, a 1069 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 3: lot of just take no music. A lot of people 1070 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 3: don't even know the sounds that they call Miami Base 1071 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,840 Speaker 3: originated in Los Angeles, California. That was a guy from Riverside, California. 1072 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 3: They did Mister Mix, Hobbs, the two live crews. Whole 1073 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 3: sound came from the West Coast. I did not know 1074 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:33,160 Speaker 3: that mister Mix is from Riverside, California. He's from Riverside, California. 1075 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,920 Speaker 3: He took that sound two Live crew to actually release 1076 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,600 Speaker 3: the record through Macola first right with him aw some 1077 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,480 Speaker 3: Vee and them guys. They were in the military at 1078 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,960 Speaker 3: the time. When Mix came home from Mister Mix came 1079 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,719 Speaker 3: home from the from being in service, right his mom 1080 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 3: kept telling him, Hey, this man from Miami keep calling y'all. 1081 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:53,520 Speaker 3: He wants y'all to come down and perform the record 1082 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,319 Speaker 3: that got big, and it got big in Miami. They 1083 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,400 Speaker 3: didn't even know it when he went down there. He 1084 00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 3: brought that sound with them. You remember that Egyptian muff 1085 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 3: and all that other stuff that was all that's all 1086 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 3: West Coast stuff. Bro to eight A Waits and all 1087 00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 3: that stuff, so pretty much the sound that wound up 1088 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 3: being the foundation for what the South the kine comes 1089 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,560 Speaker 3: from the West Coast. South from the West Coast. 1090 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 2: I think my relationship to it would be one of 1091 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 2: the closest I would have is So when I was 1092 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 2: in middle school, the Jerking era was popping off, and 1093 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 2: to me, obviously it's not the most respectable form of 1094 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 2: West Coast music. The lyricism isn't there. We didn't get 1095 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 2: any classic bodies of work from it. But the Jerking era, 1096 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 2: which is dance music bullshit dance music. Some would say 1097 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 2: he got mainstream attition back to the West Coast. At 1098 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,960 Speaker 2: the time, we didn't have it. So it seems like 1099 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 2: there's this weird current theme where dance music, techno music 1100 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,160 Speaker 2: like electro music, fast placed music kind of gets the 1101 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,040 Speaker 2: party jumping and then following so we get a reassertce 1102 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:52,800 Speaker 2: of real MC's. It seems like it just keep going to. 1103 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 3: See So what the thing is the one thing you 1104 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 3: can't do though, Dejon, all that stuff has this place 1105 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 3: in the branch hip, right, you gotta have to meet. 1106 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 3: The West Coast need more rappers like a Will Smith. 1107 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, Everything gonna have to be 1108 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 3: a gangster rapper. I think that's why you have so 1109 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 3: many guys out here that that's really not from a gang. 1110 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 3: A and R told me one time, man, and in 1111 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 3: order to get signed to be from California, you had 1112 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 3: to become you had to come from a gang. Because 1113 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 3: I remember when I remember when Gentry said that did 1114 00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 3: you have you have to be from a gang? That's 1115 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 3: not necessarily true. It's a whole bunch of cats, like 1116 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 3: it's not from nowhere. 1117 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: Now. They may live in the neighborhood. But that don't 1118 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: mean ain't necessarily gang banger. 1119 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 4: And we found out we found a lot of nists 1120 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 4: who have developed from the West Coast who didn't necessarily. 1121 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: Take that route of John Kennedy. A lots. 1122 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 4: If you want to go back to my days, we 1123 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 4: had the young end, the seats, we had the digital undergrounds, 1124 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 4: we had their souls of mischief from the West Coast. 1125 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 4: We had a lot of artists Man KD who was 1126 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 4: from Lynch, who was signed the queue. You had a 1127 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 4: lot of artists who didn't take or represent the street 1128 00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:17,760 Speaker 4: route far Si everybody false exactly the alcoholics. 1129 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 1: You give me everybody of their lane. 1130 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 4: I believe if you make significant good music, then it 1131 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 4: really doesn't matter as long as you can make and 1132 00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 4: sustain good music. If you can make songs that people 1133 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 4: can relate to and whatever the genre of it is, 1134 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 4: you're gonna have fans and you're gonna have music that 1135 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,439 Speaker 4: motherfucker that you can sustain. Now, if you're just trying 1136 00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 4: to get in a booth and create a song to 1137 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,520 Speaker 4: diss the ops, or you're just trying to make some 1138 00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 4: catchy like you said to go TikTok, or a lot 1139 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 4: of people want to take that rap now because becoming 1140 00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 4: famous is the name of the game now. So if 1141 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 4: I can create some shit on TikTok and have everybody 1142 01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 4: sing along to it and make a day and step 1143 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,720 Speaker 4: to it, that's how That's how we're discovering artists today. 1144 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 4: But like I said, everything goes around for a circle. 1145 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 4: It always has when it comes to hip hop, or 1146 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 4: it always has when it comes to cultures and trends. 1147 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 4: You might see something your parents wore thirty years ago, 1148 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 4: they selling that shit in a vintage store. Today you 1149 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 4: get me and motherfucker's going in there and buying the shit. 1150 01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,600 Speaker 4: It just takes time for it to come around and 1151 01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 4: for people to start coming up age and feeling like 1152 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 4: they want to hear something different than what's been going on. 1153 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: And that's usually what happens. 1154 01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,440 Speaker 4: You get an artist to come back, you get somebody 1155 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,439 Speaker 4: to come out the woodwork where you get somebody new 1156 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 4: that comes with a different sounds that people like I 1157 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,440 Speaker 4: want to do that now you get me. So whether 1158 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 4: it be an old sound or new sound, hip hop 1159 01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 4: has always found a way of recreating itself and then 1160 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,640 Speaker 4: going back to its roots. 1161 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 2: Speaking of things going in cycles are you familiar with 1162 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,320 Speaker 2: Draco or the Rulers music eight. 1163 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, have you? 1164 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 2: Because I've heard similarities between the flow your flow in 1165 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,440 Speaker 2: his flow, especially when I listen to late night hype, 1166 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 2: and when I hear late night hype, I'd be like, 1167 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 2: this is like, this reminds me of Draco in a bit, 1168 01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 2: or vice versa. Do you hear any similarities in your flow? 1169 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,280 Speaker 4: I've heard it a little bit. I've always said that 1170 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 4: it's always good to be able to influence whatever whatever 1171 01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 4: d might be, even if people may think that a 1172 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 4: little influence has been given, it's always respect to me, 1173 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 4: and especially when it's the new generation. I had a 1174 01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 4: distinctive flow and tried to create something different than what 1175 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:18,720 Speaker 4: all the other dudes were doing in my time. He 1176 01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,640 Speaker 4: was another one. My son liked Jim a lot, so 1177 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,720 Speaker 4: like you could see some similarities in the music. Standing 1178 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 4: on your own, creating your own shit and not give 1179 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,840 Speaker 4: what the fuck about what people thought about it, but 1180 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 4: you was just gonna go on. 1181 01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:37,640 Speaker 2: You feel me, y'all were very similar in that way. 1182 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 2: I feel like the same way you didn't have that bright, sunny, 1183 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 2: super super defunk, warm house party feel like a Warren 1184 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 2: g Or Quick it's the same way that Draco didn't 1185 01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:54,880 Speaker 2: have that red cup ratchet feel of a yg or 1186 01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 2: Joe Moses or a problem Like he stood out in 1187 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 2: his generation and you stood out in your generation. So 1188 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 2: I see the similarities. 1189 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 3: I think dude was on his way man, probably to 1190 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,360 Speaker 3: become one of the biggest artists on the West Coast. Man. 1191 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,479 Speaker 1: I think it's. 1192 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:12,040 Speaker 3: Tragical happen to him because I I go back with 1193 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 3: my son's listening to I got young sons, right, and 1194 01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 3: the way when Chris was putting me up on me. 1195 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 3: Chris used to try to get me to sign everybody eight. Dad, 1196 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 3: you need to go find him and sign him. I said, 1197 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,360 Speaker 3: Chris ain't just that easy, right, But I definitely thought 1198 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 3: that he was one of them dudes. Man, that was 1199 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:32,360 Speaker 3: like I want to say, he was different, man, he 1200 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,720 Speaker 3: was unique. He had his own he had his own 1201 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 3: thing going. And it's just tragedy, That's what I mean. Man. 1202 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 3: That's why I tell a lot of young cats, Man, 1203 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 3: it's in LA that's doing stuff right now. Move go 1204 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 3: down to Atlanta somewhere, Go down to Texas somewhere. Get 1205 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:47,640 Speaker 3: out the city, you know what I mean, Because it's 1206 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 3: just tragic. 1207 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Out there. 1208 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,919 Speaker 3: Man, it's a lot of bullshit. I think you got 1209 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,000 Speaker 3: to brove even something simple as moving out to the ie. Man, 1210 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 3: sometimes you got to get away from this shit thog. 1211 01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 2: That's true, being out the way of the benefit. 1212 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 3: You just got to get out the wait man, before 1213 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 3: we go. I gotta address this now, what's going on? 1214 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 1: You know? 1215 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 3: I had to comment. I'll follow you on Instagram and men, 1216 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:08,919 Speaker 3: you have dialogue cross there. 1217 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1218 01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 3: You recently dropped his album, his new album, Yeah, and 1219 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 3: you had a lot of stuff to say about it. Man, 1220 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 3: you had a lot of comment. That's one thing I 1221 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 3: do respect about you. You say what you say and 1222 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,040 Speaker 3: you stand on it right. Yeah, why was you going 1223 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 3: so hard on the homely Cube man? 1224 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 1: Man? 1225 01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,320 Speaker 2: First off, Cube is probably the greatest LA rapper of 1226 01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 2: all time. Let me start off there. Obviously a household name, 1227 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,000 Speaker 2: pop culture icon and a hip hop icon of Like 1228 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 2: when he dropped up the single Accurate Age with Scarface 1229 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 2: with the music video, I just felt it was laughable. 1230 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,720 Speaker 2: The bars, the flow iss it just sounded like they 1231 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 2: recorded on a karaoke machine. I was just like, Man, 1232 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 2: I imagine if he took these resources, the money for 1233 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 2: this video, the studio time and put it into a 1234 01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 2: new La rapper, it would go further. I just felt 1235 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,640 Speaker 2: like it would be more strategic and beneficial for the 1236 01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,800 Speaker 2: West Coast if Q was breaking a new artist instead 1237 01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,160 Speaker 2: of dropping an accurate age. Did you like really hear 1238 01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 2: the single like this told me to act my age? 1239 01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 2: Never tell me to act my age. That's when I 1240 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 2: let his ask out the cage. Never tell me to 1241 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,120 Speaker 2: act my age, Like, I'm like, get that Curtis bullshit 1242 01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 2: out of here, Q, you could do way better than that. 1243 01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 2: I just wasn't feeling that as a single. And yeah, 1244 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 2: I just felt like it's a waste of time. That 1245 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,880 Speaker 2: record's not going anywhere, is what I'm saying. Respectfully. 1246 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 4: Mmm, I'm not mad at your opinion, bro, Like I said, 1247 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 4: we don't be. I mean, everybody's entitled to their opinion. 1248 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 4: I am, for one. I'm not one of those dudes 1249 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:57,080 Speaker 4: who I call them yes me and niggas who would 1250 01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,480 Speaker 4: sit up in the studio hear somebody some shit and 1251 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 4: then knowing I'm like that's not the best, but I'm 1252 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 4: still go on co sign it. It'd be like, oh, 1253 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 4: that's sufficient. I'm not one of them dudes. Did I 1254 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 4: like the single personally no, and like you said, maybe, 1255 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,920 Speaker 4: and I tried to take it in the form of 1256 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:31,560 Speaker 4: maybe that was direct the direction of the song, for 1257 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 4: it to be comical and for it to be laughable 1258 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,600 Speaker 4: because of the concept of the song. 1259 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 1: So that's where I took it. 1260 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:50,920 Speaker 4: He wanted motherfuckers to be like, oh, listen, this's some 1261 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,959 Speaker 4: funny shit, just some Friday shit. 1262 01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: This some funny shit. You get me. And then the point, 1263 01:06:58,040 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't know you. 1264 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:03,880 Speaker 4: Like I said, it was something that I probably wouldn't 1265 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 4: have chosen for a single, but I'm not cu. And 1266 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,439 Speaker 4: Atq's point, you can do what the fuck he want 1267 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,400 Speaker 4: to do because he's one of those artists, you feel me, 1268 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:19,280 Speaker 4: because he has a significant fan base that are going 1269 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 4: to support what he does. You as a as a 1270 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 4: as a as a journalist and somebody who can openly 1271 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:37,000 Speaker 4: criticize and voice your opinion about whatever, and you have 1272 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 4: the right to do that. And so it would be 1273 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:44,800 Speaker 4: it would be dumb to think that everyone is going 1274 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:49,160 Speaker 4: to like, what a motherfucker do you feel me? Would 1275 01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,439 Speaker 4: be crazy for us to sit up here and think 1276 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,120 Speaker 4: that everybody across the board is gonna like the SNG 1277 01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 4: you feel me? That's just it and another and it 1278 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,800 Speaker 4: has nothing to do with Q or who did the 1279 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 4: video or who produced the song, has nothing to do 1280 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 4: with that personally, But to some people it might not 1281 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 4: be to their liking. 1282 01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: And then. 1283 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:19,759 Speaker 4: Coming from a place where you like you said, Cube 1284 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 4: is one of the best, hands down West Coast raptor period, 1285 01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 4: fuck coast period, you get me, He's one of the 1286 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,639 Speaker 4: best to ever do this shit from me from west east, 1287 01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,559 Speaker 4: down south, wherever you want to go, Canada, I don't 1288 01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:39,800 Speaker 4: give a fuck. So coming from that and knowing the 1289 01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:43,720 Speaker 4: track record of Q, you might have been disappointed. 1290 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,040 Speaker 3: If you're accused and you got to think about it. 1291 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,080 Speaker 3: He's fighting his You know this the dude man that 1292 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 3: made Black Korea. You feel what I'm saying this, the 1293 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,920 Speaker 3: dude that he has made some of the most iconic 1294 01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,040 Speaker 3: street records of all time. But I will tell you this, 1295 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 3: I was talking to Homie really d right. He said 1296 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:06,080 Speaker 3: he just came back from hum Cube show Cube still 1297 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 3: packing out Arenas Cuby to her. Yep, if Cube went 1298 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,439 Speaker 3: and did the Stable Center, he could sell that motherfucker out. 1299 01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,720 Speaker 3: I have no doubt in my mind. Right, But they 1300 01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 3: said that Cube man that brought out a blimp. You 1301 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 3: know how the part of something we said even saw 1302 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,880 Speaker 3: the lights of the good Year blimp and the rear 1303 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 3: eyes Cub's a fimp and the song falls and they 1304 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 3: said plinp went over to the arena and everybody wasn't crazy. Now, 1305 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 3: it probably cost him thirty thousand dollars to put that 1306 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 3: BLMP up in the sky like that, you know what 1307 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,000 Speaker 3: I mean. I don't know what the man got paid 1308 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,840 Speaker 3: for the show, but Cube is not out there doing 1309 01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 3: shows because he needs the money. I think that man 1310 01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 3: really just loved hip hop man, and this is Cube 1311 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 3: don't have to put out on records. Don't worry, I 1312 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 3: don't think. I don't believe so. I don't know the 1313 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 3: man's pockets. I don't know his financial status, but I 1314 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,200 Speaker 3: think Cub is doing this shit at this point because 1315 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 3: he loved it. And to be honest with you, man, 1316 01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 3: I want to see all the OG's continue to put 1317 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,120 Speaker 3: out records. I wanted to put out good music now. 1318 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,040 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear too much white shit, but 1319 01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,240 Speaker 3: I do want to continue hearing my childhood heroes. Because 1320 01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you, I thought I'm me and A 1321 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:10,160 Speaker 3: had a conversation the other night. I'm a pick too 1322 01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:12,599 Speaker 3: Short a fan. I'm gonna use to me too short 1323 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,479 Speaker 3: of the greatest rap of all time. Nobody has had 1324 01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 3: a career like him. Nobody has had it. You got 1325 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 3: to think about this. Mann't been doing this since eighty two, 1326 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,679 Speaker 3: some shit like that, Man eighty five or some shit 1327 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 3: like that on a professional level. Man that has been 1328 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,679 Speaker 3: and still a household name. You can ask any twenty 1329 01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 3: year old walking the streets in LA if they know 1330 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 3: who too Short he is. Nigga probably say yeah, But 1331 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,240 Speaker 3: I think I do think man. As far as cats 1332 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 3: coming off of it, Bretnan, you're sending you pictures of 1333 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 3: your house and stuff. Man, I think people need to 1334 01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 3: get over themselves. 1335 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:45,240 Speaker 4: Man. 1336 01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 3: I think as long as you when you decide to 1337 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:52,479 Speaker 3: put our music, man, you gotta be open to criticism. 1338 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And like I said, I feel like a woman 1339 01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:56,720 Speaker 2: up to it. It just took some time, but that 1340 01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 2: woman up to the criticisms. And hopefully not hopefully it's 1341 01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:02,400 Speaker 2: artists like Big Sad nineteen hundred that told me that 1342 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 2: my critiques and the grades I gave him helped him 1343 01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 2: step up his game. Jason cash end Up linked with 1344 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,439 Speaker 2: Mustard off of a port Card. There's been plenty of 1345 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,200 Speaker 2: artists that have stepped their game up off the port Card. 1346 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:18,080 Speaker 2: Ralphie the plug started being more consistent xyz so. But 1347 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,760 Speaker 2: it's been artists that that took it took key to 1348 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 2: what I was saying. It's still artists like a zold 1349 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 2: Sim or a little Vady that's upset dropping a disrecord 1350 01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:27,720 Speaker 2: here or there. But you know it's all hip hop. 1351 01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 2: I don't take it personal at all. 1352 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 1: Man. Do you have a podcast? Yeah? 1353 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 2: I have two podcasts, have a dan Lay podcast now Wrapp, 1354 01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 2: a port Card podcast, Rapp port Card just Grave music 1355 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,800 Speaker 2: on live screen. A day in La I shit with 1356 01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,240 Speaker 2: the Homies and the Homegirl and we talked La rap. 1357 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 3: Man, y'all make sure man, y'all support the homy Man. 1358 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 3: We go drop a link man in the comment section. Man, 1359 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 3: so y'all can go, not in the comment section, but 1360 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 3: to show the scription section. 1361 01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:52,719 Speaker 1: So y'all can go check. 1362 01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,840 Speaker 3: The homy out Man on that note, Man, we out 1363 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,000 Speaker 3: of yacht. 1364 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,120 Speaker 1: Shit like peace. Well. 1365 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,360 Speaker 3: That concludes another episode of the Gainstnicle's podcast. Be sure 1366 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,679 Speaker 3: to download the iHeart app and subscribe to the Gangster 1367 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,920 Speaker 3: Chronicles podcast. But Apple users find a purple micae on 1368 01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 3: the front of your screen, Subscribe to the show, leave 1369 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,080 Speaker 3: a comment and rating. 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