WEBVTT - The Community Responsibility of Law Enforcement 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:09.800 What's good family. I'm to make a d. Mallory and 0:00:09.800 --> 0:00:12.520 where your hosts of street politicians, the place where the 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:17.959 streets and politics meet. The end of six episodes coming 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:24.079 yes man. And each episode was intriguing, was important, was captivating. 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.160 We had some of you know, a little bit of everybody. 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:30.000 I think we should watch a clip of the first 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:35.080 five episodes, um and and you know, hopefully, uh, folks 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:37.360 will get an opportunity to really kind of get a feel. 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:41.159 If you haven't watched the actual long form episodes or 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.040 listen to them, you have the opportunity to really kind 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.960 of get a glimpse of what was covered. But I 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:52.400 do definitely, definitely, definitely advised that people would sit and 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:56.880 listen to each one and to listen intently. I wrote notes, um, 0:00:56.920 --> 0:01:02.279 I contacted other individuals and connected people. We pulled folks together, 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.600 made sure that the people we met in the first 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:09.480 episode got to meet individuals from the third or fourth 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.959 because that's what it's all about. It's about organizing, it's 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:18.080 about convening hearts and minds. And um, I certainly am 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:21.600 proud of the work that we're doing in terms of 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.360 slowing down a little bit from you know, just trying 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:26.240 to be on the beat. We want to make sure 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:29.080 everybody you have a podcast, you have a show, you 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.880 have uh, you know, any type of public facing work. 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:35.840 You want people to see it, to admire it, you 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:39.320 want people to to get engaged. Um and I think 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:42.800 that this special is certainly engaging. But I can also 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.840 understand that it may not reach every single person the 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:49.120 way that a different show that we're working on does. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:55.720 But that doesn't mean it's less important. More important. Yeah, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.120 the spikes that we're seeing around the country have to 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.320 do with our directly associated with the after effects of 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.800 the COVID crisis. Unfortunate that you were ride in your 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:11.240 hood and know who you're gonna be raising money for 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:13.799 to bury One day, I almost lost my mom when 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:16.160 I was tad. She was shot twice in broad daylight. 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:20.000 Saw I came in, came in kind on my first 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:23.080 misses of dumb violence. I saw my mania didn't get 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:27.080 murdered right in front of We have to understand that mentality, 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:29.960 that lifestyle, right, and when you have a lifestyle that 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:34.480 you don't see as criminals, nothing you do is looked at. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:38.160 It's wrong. More police doesn't mean the violence is gonna 0:02:38.600 --> 0:02:42.840 it's gonna decrease. All they're seeing is people died at 0:02:42.880 --> 0:02:45.239 the hands of gunfire. We have to understand that the 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:48.240 language tells them that the best way to protect themselves 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.480 is to carry that gun as well. Now I have 0:02:50.720 --> 0:02:52.639 a bullet in my leg and a rod from my 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:54.600 knee to my hip, and I know I can't run, No, 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.440 I can't go to the gym. And they see self 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:59.080 conscious moments that I felt like I knew with the 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:01.000 other women out there that I need to speak to. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:03.480 There is no code for gun bounce survivance. Who just 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:06.920 happened to be shot like me, who just happened to 0:03:06.919 --> 0:03:09.800 be in a situation on vacation, who just happened to 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:12.639 be leaving school, who just happened to be at the 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.840 wrong place at the wrong time. Our deep winds required deep, deep, 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:21.359 deep killing. And until we get the voice of Whu 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:23.880 Shan Duke is advocating for and g MAC and who 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:27.840 trigger is advocating for, really at the table, we're gonna 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:33.000 continue to see this manifestation of despair and you and 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.040 the gun is a solution. We have to intervene immediately. 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.000 We know it's getting ready to go now and to 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.960 watch it happen, almost makes us co conspirators in it. 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.320 But this is the reality of everyday violence. There are 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:48.880 people experiencing this, this crime every day. I fell in 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.720 love with this process of being able to save lives 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:54.840 because it was a conflict between two groups and I 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:57.960 knew both for the guys, and I was able to 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.080 stop people from killing each other. And I'm gonna be honest, 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:07.720 I never felt anything remotely closed to the joy and 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:12.920 satisfaction that I got from saving the life. Yeah, and 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.520 that's just, you know, just a little bit of what 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:20.320 we cover a little glimps. Next episode, we'll be talking 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.720 about the cannabis industry, which is also important, and these 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.400 things are connected because, um, you know, when we talk 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.599 when we're talking about poverty, we're talking about violence, we're 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:35.560 talking about um inequities in our community. When we look 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.680 at the cannabis industry, that is one way that we 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:45.160 can uh find an opportunity for equity, for uh for 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:49.320 for building generational wealth and so um, you know, I 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.320 think we were trying to do a good job of 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:56.240 curating and experience within Strey politicians that gives people the 0:04:56.279 --> 0:05:01.520 opportunity to learn, grow and go do something well what 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.440 it is that you're finding out. So in this sixth 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:08.520 episode today, we're talking to someone from law enforcement, UM, 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:12.479 someone who was a former chief highest levels, went through 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.760 the ranks, traveled through all the ranks of the NYPD 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.960 in the city that we live in, UM. And I 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:22.600 think that's an important conversation. But also we're talking to 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.600 another young man who I found out from you. I've 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.280 known this brother for a long time. I had no 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.120 idea that he had actually been in prison, UM, and 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.320 that he had been on both sides of the gun, 0:05:33.680 --> 0:05:37.520 a shooter and a victim. UM. And we're learning some 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:40.160 some things about his situation today. So I'm excited for 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:43.320 the show. Yes, when you gotta tune into this, when 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:47.479 this is gonna be epic. You know, I think brother 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:51.080 Um Sampson styles, we're talking about somebody that IM watching, 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.440 knowing his history and just seeing how he kept his 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.520 authenticity in this industry and he took his whole aura 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:02.080 and street persona and made it cool and on a 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.640 big screen. So you know, that was always something that 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.120 I looked up to me before I even got into 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:09.560 the field. I mean, while I was in prison, and 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.680 you know, not really I was signed, but I was 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.960 never really able to get out. There's always somebody that 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.159 looked up to, like, Yo, this dude is doing it. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.360 So I'm definitely interested in that interview. And you know, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.120 people run to be in front of the camera. Um, 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.880 and while Samson certainly has been in front of the camera, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.480 it's the behind the scenes stuff that, uh, that can 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.680 make you money, things that you might actually have better skills. 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.279 As some folks go out, they do an audition to 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.320 get in front of the camera, to be an an 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.640 actual character or you know, to play a role, and 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:45.839 when they have turned down, they feel like, man, you know, 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.400 I wanted to be in the industry, and now because 0:06:48.440 --> 0:06:52.839 I can't be an actual artist or entertainer, then you know, 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.440 my career is over. But they don't think that way. 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.159 I might actually be better at financing movies, Um, I 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:03.159 might actually be better at seeking out talent, training people 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:08.719 directing films. I love watching Tianna Taylor's process that she's 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.880 going through now where she's learning from other o g uh, 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.800 you know, production folks, how to be a producer and 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:20.480 how to um to transform the skills that she already 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.720 has into directing and what have you. And I love 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.760 that about her because very similar to the point her 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:30.640 music career, which I love her freaking music. I mean 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:35.080 I loved her last man, her last album was amazing, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.240 but she was really frustrated about the lack of support 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.800 that she received for her album and the way that 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:45.280 she feels like her career is not you know, it's 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:48.760 not going in the direction that she wants it to travel, right, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.440 And instead of her just being like I'm hanging it 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:54.280 all up and I'm going home, she's back from a 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.320 different direction. That's what it's supposed to be about. That's 0:07:57.320 --> 0:08:00.880 what it's always about. Sometimes we have to reinvent ourselves, 0:08:01.160 --> 0:08:04.160 you know, sometimes we have to realize that even though 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:06.160 you love to do it this way, but this is 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:08.120 God's calling for you to do it that way. So, 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.320 you know, those are the people that survived in this 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.680 industry in the world period, you know, constantly evolving, constantly saying, hey, 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.320 this what's going on? I don't even know how to 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:18.120 do this. I tell my kids all the time, and 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:20.160 tell my son, you want to do music, then get 0:08:20.200 --> 0:08:22.559 you a friend that shoots videos, Get you a friend 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.800 that makes beats. Y'all can make yourself a conglimerate, make 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:28.760 yourself a team and know how to do every aspect 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:31.760 so that you make sure that you are always an asset. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.079 Yeah right, you gotta corner the market. Yes, So that 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:43.280 brings me to my thought of the day. If you 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.800 watch the news all that you might go crazy because 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.640 the news is a little like crazy, it's a lot 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.439 going on. It could give you real anxiety. And what 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:59.200 I realized from Donald trumpian president, is that whatever is 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:03.960 happening with our like elected officials in the highest offices 0:09:04.000 --> 0:09:09.160 in your local community and door federally, it impacts people's 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.320 mental stability and or not right. So a lot of 0:09:13.400 --> 0:09:16.880 issues that we have and questions that we have about 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:20.800 COVID nineteen, about the economy, about so many things comes 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.920 from the fact that we were dealing with a kid, 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:30.000 really like a grown irresponsible child. So now the Republican 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.400 Party wants to come back and say, well, you need 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:37.439 to get vaccinated, because I'm sure they've done some research 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.599 they figured out that. You know, now you start to 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:45.200 see Fox News Channel and others talking about, you know, 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.560 get vaccinated. All of them have been vaccine. That's the 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.640 other thing. They're all saying, they've been vaccinated, right um, 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.200 and now they're telling people still they don't agree with 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.360 the mask, but they think you should get vaccinated because 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:03.000 it definitely reduces the ability to have mutations and spread, 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.600 you know. So they've got there, they've got their reasoning 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.560 for why they feel people should get vaccinated. But I 0:10:08.600 --> 0:10:12.280 think all of it started because of the all of 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.920 the doubt, certainly aside from the fact that black people 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:20.160 have doubt anyway, that's a fact, but also just some 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:25.000 collective doubt has come from how President Trump at the 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:28.960 time addressed the entire virus. How he was out there, 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.600 you know, spending his time talking about the China virus 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.120 and just doing insane things. That was not giving people 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:38.400 clear direction on what to do. It wasn't being taken 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.880 seriously enough. There are folks who, um, I think got 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.719 caught up in the middle of the foolishness rather than 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:48.839 all of us being properly educated by the folks that 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.400 the in the highest office in the land. So I'm 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:56.239 giving that as a pretext to my thought of the day, um, 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.839 because now we've got another crisis here in the city 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.040 and what in the state of New York, and that 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:06.360 is Governor Cuomo uh and the women who have accused 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:11.000 him of sexual assault and sexual harassment. Now I bring 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:16.080 up this idea of strong leadership because, um, I think 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.440 that whenever you have a situation where people like how 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:22.600 we are here in New York. The virus has really 0:11:22.720 --> 0:11:26.960 messed up this this state. Like we You can say 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.320 what you want, Oh, it's real, not real all of 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.680 the thing. Everybody's got a theory, but the impact of 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.200 it is real. Things are closed, you can't get things 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.840 you need, kids in and out of school, stuff closing 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.079 up and down. People not having jobs, people need workers. 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.319 It's a lot going on within this state. And I'm 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.280 sure it's everywhere, but this is where I live, so 0:11:48.320 --> 0:11:52.199 we're speaking directly here. So now you've gotta scandal with 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:57.280 the governor in a sexual assault thing. Mind you, when 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:00.840 we were seeing him on TV doing such a wonder food, y'all, remember, 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:03.760 everybody was like, look at the Governor's all right? People 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:07.040 would call people were calling me. I'm not saying you said, 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.720 but I'm just telling you. People were calling me from 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:13.760 Alabama here and there, nan your governor, Look at your governor. 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.079 The problem is, to go back to my original point. 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:22.360 They were comparing him and his ability to sit down 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.440 and have a charismatic conversation and lead to a full 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.800 president who was acting like a big dummy and a clown. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.920 So they told in their minds they saw some leadership 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:39.240 and they're like, wow. Meanwhile, we've been saying that Governor 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:43.120 Cuomo was complete trash. We've been saying that, We've been 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.520 telling you each trash. We've been telling you that he 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:49.880 has been behind racist policies. We've we've been telling folks that. 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:52.240 And I had to stop family members and say, y'all 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:56.559 don't know this dude. Do not let his nice looking Yeah, 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.360 he knows how to speak, and well he don't wear 0:12:59.360 --> 0:13:03.760 it really good. He just wears a button shirt and 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.040 roll up. He got the he got a fly white boy, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:10.760 older white boy look. And so people were really tricked. 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.280 And I was having conversations with even my own family 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.800 members being like, yo, this guy number one. He has 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:22.360 pushed pushed racist policies in New York. He has been 0:13:22.440 --> 0:13:28.120 divisive in terms of developing um or or or incentivizing 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:33.240 Democrats to sort of leave the very liberal side of 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:38.040 decision making and voting on issues and lean more towards 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:42.319 conservative politics. He literally was giving people and they will 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.200 say he didn't do that. Uh, you know, you're saying 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:49.839 he did. He didn't assign offices. It was at his direction. Okay. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.479 They were giving people corner offices, you know, better access 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.120 they can meet with the Governor Moore to be a 0:13:57.120 --> 0:14:00.559 part of something called UH the I d C. Which 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:04.800 was an independent part of the government where we send people, 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.360 we vote for somebody and send them to Albany, which 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.760 is the state capital of New York. We send them 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.800 up there and say that they are UM a Democrat, 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:16.800 and next thing you know, you find out they up 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:20.680 there caucusing with the Republicans, making decisions that are against 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:24.720 what the Democrats needed. And by the way, the individuals 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:27.960 that they were able to sort of move to a 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:31.920 more conservative side. It took the power away from a 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.400 black woman who was in charge of the Senate. She 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.200 had the power. She was basically the strongest senator in 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.280 New York. Okay, this black woman, UM, and she's the 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:47.600 majority rep um Uh Andrea Stewart cousins. And it took 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.840 away so many votes that they were no longer in 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:55.000 the majority, so they could not vote on progressive policies. Okay. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:59.160 And the governor orchestrated this himself. I could go down 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.840 the list things that the governor has done to be divisive, 0:15:03.040 --> 0:15:05.880 to be on the wrong side of history, um, to 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:10.360 be you know, against anti giving us money and resources 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:12.600 to deal with gun violence. Now, all of a sudden 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:16.520 it's become a priority on his list. I wonder why, 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:20.320 until he started courting the idea of running for president, 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.440 he was, damn there a Republican governor. That's the way 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.240 he was governed in New York, Okay. And you get 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:32.120 and don't ask me, go get some of the Democratic 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:36.160 elected officials who've been up there in Washington fighting him, 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.880 the ones who had the I was getting ready to 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:41.040 use the word balls. That's the wrong words to use. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.280 Excuse me, So let me say the well who have 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:47.720 the courage, who have the courage to speak the truth 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:51.400 about what the governor was really doing. So when they 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:55.080 come out and say that he was sexually harassing and 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.400 assaulting women, I'm not gonna say that. I just immediately 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:02.440 believed it because you don't know, right. But after listening 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.440 to the stories, after listening to some other people who 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:08.280 are around, in my mind, I was thinking that the 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:11.320 same trash that could do these things could potentially be 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:14.960 doing this stuff too. But they said, let's have an investigation. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.360 And Tis James Leticia James, who is the Attorney General, 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.360 a black woman of New York State, who, by the way, 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:26.040 the governor's supported and also helped to get elected. So 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.000 don't give me the bullshit about oh, she's just against 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:31.760 him and this. No, she that was her man. And 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.240 there's been many times that I wanted Tis James to 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:37.320 come out against the governor and she didn't say anything, 0:16:37.360 --> 0:16:39.880 and that caused a point of contention between me and 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:43.280 her politics. Okay, So to be clear, this is not 0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.520 about permanent friends. It's about permanent interests. And so when 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.680 they said, when Tis James said she's gonna come out 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.240 with a report, I was skeptical. But I sat back 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.120 and I said, if anybody's gonna do it right, I 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:57.000 believe a black woman will. And guess what a bunch 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.320 of before she could get her report out the gate, 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:03.560 a bun to black leaders people I love and respect, 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:07.200 came forward to support the governor and did so much 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:09.720 as going out of their way to make it seem 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.240 like he was some type of golden child. Okay, before 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:17.680 they allowed the actual investigation to happen, and we're supposed 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.680 to be supporting and believe in women and all of that. 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:24.400 But these individuals, black folks got together and went out 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:29.680 and supported the governor prior to again allowingness other black 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:32.159 woman to come forward with her report. And now the 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.480 report comes out and the cell phone stuff and and 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:39.280 and testimony and other things evidence to show that he 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:44.399 was in inappropriate conversations and relations. And there are women 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.680 who say they didn't even want the attention, They didn't 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.560 even want the passes that were being made at them, 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.280 and the harassment and the cornering that they felt, and 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.120 the way that they felt at work, and and then 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.080 after they came forward with their stories, rather than in 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:06.000 him being ostracized, these women were moved out of their offices. 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:08.399 They were and this is what they do all the 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.239 time when this is why people do not like to 0:18:11.280 --> 0:18:15.520 come forward, especially about powerful men and abuse, because what 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:18.199 they did was they ostracized the women. They made the 0:18:18.200 --> 0:18:21.600 women feel uncomfortable at work, they moved their deaths, they 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.800 isolated them, and he was allowed to run around with 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:28.159 his black friends who came out and said he was 0:18:28.200 --> 0:18:31.320 the greatest things, the greatest thing since sliced bread. And 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:34.400 now the black woman's report, who is his friend, who 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.399 he helped to get in office, who he supports and 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.359 she supports him. They was cool, and that woman had 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.200 to come forward and say, you know what, after my investigation, 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:47.200 I believe I know that he did this. And when 0:18:47.200 --> 0:18:50.040 you think about that, you know, it took a lot, 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.800 of course it did. It means that there has to 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.640 be some level of evidence or that pushed her to actually, 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:00.200 you know, say, nah, this has happened to me, because 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:03.760 when somebody supports you, get you in the position, you know, 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.080 when you have a level of loyalty to come out 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.680 and say that, you know, the you know, the whole 0:19:09.720 --> 0:19:13.359 investigation must to uncover some things that she couldn't even deny. 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.040 You know, it wasn't up for graduates. It could have 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.440 been this. I believe that this investigation had to show 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:21.439 some things that was telling to the point where it's like, 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.480 there's no way I can act like this in absolutely no, 0:19:24.920 --> 0:19:28.280 I mean that is the absolutely, that's the bottom line, 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:32.040 that this is a man who helped a black woman 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:36.280 from Brooklyn, a black girl from Brooklyn. Let's start there. 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:41.120 Who who who rolls through the ranks of city government 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:47.000 became the public advocate and then became the actual Attorney 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.800 general of New York State, which is one of the 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:53.800 absolute most powerful states in the world, okay, with the 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.560 most powerful city in the world, the top cop. And 0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.400 it was the governor who helped carry her to that position, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.480 along with other black women and black folks who supported 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.600 her as well. I'm not saying that the voters weren't there, 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:09.919 but it takes political posturing and power in order to 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:14.040 become the attorney general as a black woman, the first ever. Okay, 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:17.560 let's be clear. So for her to come out with 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:21.040 these states, this statement and to say that her findings 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:25.439 is that the governor um engaged in inappropriate sexual uh 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:29.200 uh with its harassment, she didn't even use. I didn't 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.240 hear her say assault, which, by the way, the women 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:34.880 say that they were groped and that would be assault. 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:37.720 But I'm sure she's trying to be careful because legally 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:40.560 and whatever else, and maybe even personally, she's got to 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.639 be careful. So she says sexual harassment. For her to 0:20:43.680 --> 0:20:46.199 do that, that's very hard because by the way, that 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.480 white man sat on TV and said, he's not stepping down, 0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:52.760 he's not doing anything. He's going forward because he didn't 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.520 do anything wrong, and he damned there, and from what 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:57.959 I can hear, made it seem like these women, if 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.160 I did do it, that's what they wanted. And here 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.760 you are the attorney general who has to run for 0:21:02.840 --> 0:21:05.320 office and other things that needs to be able to 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:08.080 do your job and operate, and now you have an 0:21:08.160 --> 0:21:10.600 enemy that you've made out of a man who we 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:16.040 all know to be somebody who definitely absolutely carries grudges 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:21.440 against people, because that's who, uh Andrew Cuomo is. Okay, 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:23.720 so she didn't just do that. And so what I'm 0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:26.119 just trying to figure out as a part of my 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.280 thought of the day, is what do these black leaders 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.720 have to say? Now? What do they have to say? Now? 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.159 I mean, I think for me, it's always touch it's 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:41.679 very touchy subjects when it comes to accusation, especially in 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.520 in you know, political parties and things like that, because 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.399 you have to be careful, you know, you have to 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:50.159 really be careful who you put your support. Maud. You know, 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.879 I've learned that I'm not really a political person, you know, 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:57.119 but I've watched over the years people support people, you know, blindly, 0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.400 you know, just out of faith and friendship. You gotta 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:02.680 be real careful because these are people that we're putting 0:22:02.720 --> 0:22:05.359 in charge of our government, in charge of us, so 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:07.679 you gotta be real careful. A lot of these black leaders, 0:22:07.720 --> 0:22:11.440 like you said, they want support, and they support when 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.879 you when you get him getting behind Tish and they said, Okay, 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:17.639 this is somebody that's that can be an ally, you know, 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:20.440 so they want to come out. They want to believe him. 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:23.520 He says I didn't do anything wrong, bone he seems adamant, 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:25.600 but other people want to believe him. So, you know, 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:27.560 I think a lot of them are probably are definitely 0:22:27.560 --> 0:22:30.359 gonna be disappointed. Have to eat you know, I have 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.880 to eat crow and sit around and tell people who 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.200 they probably know who are making these accusations that now 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:39.000 you gotta say sorry to some people. But well then 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:42.080 I don't even know because I think I was gonna 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:43.960 say something that would probably get me in a lot 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.879 of trouble. So I'm not gonna say it. But and 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:48.680 it's not even about to get me in trouble. But 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.240 I also have love for a lot of these leaders, 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:54.399 and so I don't want to make statements that I 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:56.320 don't know to be true. But I know what I think. 0:22:56.600 --> 0:23:00.879 But I will say this, The problem that I have 0:23:01.600 --> 0:23:03.760 is not that they want to support the governor because 0:23:03.800 --> 0:23:06.080 they've worked with the governor for years. Many of them 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:09.959