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Speaker 2: But first, whatever one is talking about on this Monday,

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Speaker 2: So as we speak here during this Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 2: presented by a Hyundai recording on a Monday late morning, Zach,

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Speaker 2: We're in the midst of a solar eclipse partial eclipse

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Speaker 1: On what's going on here on this Monday, April eighth.

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Speaker 1: I have an unpopular opinion, Oh, here we go. I

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Speaker 2: Just go do it. It doesn't happen. Okay, it happens a lot,

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Speaker 2: Get back to the draft, prime or offensive edition. Quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Quarterback. Again.

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Speaker 2: I have not seen these articles, in fact, they have

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Speaker 1: It could, it definitely could. I there's a chance that

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Speaker 1: and you're bringing in a college prospect and saying you're

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00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: making that big jump, you're getting called up to the show.

434
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 1: In a sense, let's see what you're able to do.

435
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: And in a position at the wide receiver room, you

436
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 1: need that. You one hundred percent need somebody to come

437
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,320
Speaker 1: up and make an impact and make a splash. The

438
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: running back room, they have their big time players already

439
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,600
Speaker 1: in James Connor and Michael Carter and Amari Demercatto in

440
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: third down packages, but having a new back coming in

441
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: potentially like a Blake Korum or the running back from Tennessee, whatever,

442
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: the running back from Kentucky. There's a bunch of different

443
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: players out there that you could possibly have if they

444
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: slide towards the latter half of Day two, beginning half

445
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: of Day three. If you have Blake Korum, you know,

446
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 1: sliding in, He's very similar in my mind to a

447
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 1: power back like James Connor, but also has the shiftiness

448
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: and the ability to break free like a Michael Carter.

449
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 1: And I was able to see that whenever Michigan was

450
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: on the national stage. You were able to see it

451
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: against Ohio State. Are you able to see in the

452
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 1: National Championship that team there's those players made big time

453
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: plays when it mattered most. If you're looking past this

454
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 1: upcoming season, this is last season for James Connor under contract.

455
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 1: So do you draft a running back with the projection

456
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: that that is Connor's replacements and do you do that

457
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 1: on Day two early in Day three or those picks

458
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 1: maybe better utilized for positions that might surface more this

459
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: year and then the running back again. James Connor will

460
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: get banged up. That's just the nature of the job.

461
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,560
Speaker 1: It's how he runs. You can prepare all off season

462
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: and he does a great job getting his body ready

463
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: for football, but you are going to get nicked up.

464
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: Hopefully he doesn't miss any time at all. But it

465
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: is a position where you have to go in and forecast,

466
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: all right, what happens if what's our plan B, C, D,

467
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: and this could be the draft that happens. Because you

468
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 1: do have eleven selections, It's not like you only have

469
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: a few spots where you're like, Okay, I have a

470
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,120
Speaker 1: few needs. I mean I have a lot of needs

471
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: and only a few picks to do it. The Cardinals

472
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: have a lot of needs and a lot of picks

473
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 1: to answer a lot of those you know questions, start

474
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: putting you know a little bit more of an exclamation

475
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,880
Speaker 1: point next to that as and erasing that question mark

476
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: a wayne saying this is the position group we need,

477
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 1: not like, oh, is this the position group we want

478
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: to target. Because you have eleven picks, you are able

479
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: to ask that question and running back. Knowing James Connor's contract,

480
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,840
Speaker 1: even though he is the blueprint and Johnathan again and

481
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 1: has a immense amount of respect for James Connor back there.

482
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: The running back position is a group as a whole

483
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 1: that has really struggled getting the value that it deserves

484
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: financially a and that was something I was talked about

485
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: in the beginning half a training camp, was the zoom

486
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: call that all the running backs had in the very

487
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: beginning that James Connor said he wasn't a part of.

488
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: But when his contract's going to be, you know, coming

489
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 1: to an end, that's going to be an area that

490
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna selfishly and rightfully so have to be mindful of.

491
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 2: No guaranteed money on Connor's last year, but I do

492
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: expect him to be RB one going into this season. Again,

493
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,120
Speaker 2: he is someone that I think everyone looks to in

494
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: that offensive room. Yes, Skyl the Murray is your face

495
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 2: of the franchise, but really the heart beats on that offense.

496
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: Everyone else follows Connor's lead on the field, off the field.

497
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: Soft spoken but very loud, he has heard when he's

498
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: on the football field. So that's a position where again

499
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: first round, no second round, no third round. Perhaps again

500
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: just how to depends on how that board falls. To

501
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: you and how you rate these running backs, these young

502
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: running backs. And again, if you're gonna draft a running

503
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: back in the third round, you expect them to play

504
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 2: more than just special teams. But if you've got Michael Carter,

505
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: you've got de Mercado, now, all of a sudden, that's

506
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 2: a a loaded room as far as the numbers are concerned.

507
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 2: And then of course you've got five right now. You're

508
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: not carrying five once the regular season begins.

509
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: Yes, but we've also seen how much of an emphasis

510
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: that John degann and likes to have running backs on

511
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 1: the practice squad, whether it was Damian Williams, Tony Jones Junior,

512
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Darren there was a bunch of different a bunch of

513
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: different running backs. Excuse me that we're on the practice

514
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: squad and on the active roster. They've had no shortage

515
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: of being able to rotate running backs, especially when James

516
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: Connor did come in. So it wouldn't surprise me to

517
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: see them bring in a few more, because right now

518
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: they just have the four with Tony Jones Junior on

519
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: that futures deal. If you do, you know whoever it is,

520
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: If you do decide to bring in a running back,

521
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm assuming you'll have a few more and once training camp,

522
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: you know comes around in that room will definitely expand.

523
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: But you could find a really solid future RB one

524
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: RB two in the mix later on in this draft.

525
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: Last position group on offense offensive line. Right now, you've

526
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 1: got fifteen players in there. You're pretty much set at

527
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: the tackle position, perhaps center. You know you got yelled

528
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: to fold the guard. There's still is a.

529
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 2: Hole on the left side unless you're moving Will Hernandez

530
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: from left to right. I'm from right to left. Then

531
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: you've got a hole now on the right side. So

532
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: at least as we discussed offensive line with respects to

533
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: the draft, I'm gonna put this as medium borderline high

534
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 2: because there's five positions on that offensive line and what

535
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: are you gonna do at the center position after this year?

536
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: Yell to frole a free agent to b After twenty

537
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: twenty four, Evan Brown signed a one year deal. Who's

538
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: on this team in twenty twenty five not named Paris

539
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Johnson Junior. As far as the offensive line is concerned,

540
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: Jonah Williams signed.

541
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: Him for two years.

542
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 2: But I don't even think that means you're not looking

543
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: to take a tackle at some point, maybe even on

544
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: late Day one, day two.

545
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: If you have somebody you're able to develop, why wouldn't

546
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: you want to bring into tackle that you're able to

547
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: kind of keep in the mix and ultimately see what

548
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: is able to happen whether you keep them on the interior.

549
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of tackles in this draft that played

550
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: tackle in college that are likely to move into the

551
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: guard spot once they make it to the NFL. Now

552
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: you also have the ability and the flexibility and the

553
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 1: versatility to be able to move them to the outside

554
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: of need. And that's something on monte As and Ford

555
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 1: said that he loves and that's something he values, is

556
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: a player that comes in with that versatility. We are

557
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: able to see that with Paris Johnson Junior when you

558
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: when going into the season, you knew he was going

559
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: to be playing right tackle because you had your franchise

560
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: tackle and DJ Humphreys last season. Obviously the injury ultimately

561
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: ended up parting ways with DJ. Because of that, you're

562
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: able to bring in Jodan Williams. Now that versatility that

563
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: was talked about around draft time now comes back into

564
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: the mix. Do you keep Paris on the right side,

565
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: do you keep him on the left side. The interior though,

566
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 1: is the most important part right now, because Will Hernandez

567
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: has experience on both sides, left guard, right guard. You

568
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: like them at right guard because you like that pairing

569
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: with Paris Johnson Junior. Or you could possibly move him

570
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 1: to the left side and still have that left side

571
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: pairing with him in Paris if Paris ultimately decides to

572
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: move left. Regardless, there are a lot of guards, a

573
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: lot of interior offensive linemen that whether it's pick twenty seven,

574
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: thirty five, sixty six, seventy one, whatever it might be,

575
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: there are a lot of interior linemen that you could

576
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: find that could right away be put into the mix.

577
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: And you do have to think about the future because

578
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the players that they brought in, Tristan

579
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: col Own, Elijah Wilkinson, Keith Ismail, these are players that

580
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: are now coming in a one year contracts. So you're

581
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: gonna run into the same situation next offseason. Anyway.

582
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: You know, as we talk here, I'm going to talk

583
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: myself into changing the priority bit offensive line to high.

584
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I was borderline medium high. Now it's just

585
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 2: I was. It's okay, yes, you convinced me and just

586
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 2: now looking at the raw, and what convinced me more

587
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: than anything outside of your brilliant knowledge, thank you, is

588
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: the fact that what I mentioned earlier, how many of

589
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: these guys are under contract in twenty twenty five. There

590
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 2: are two offensive linemen under contract for twenty twenty five,

591
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: Paris Johnson Junior and Joana Williams.

592
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: And that is about John Gaines.

593
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: Are you right?

594
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: You know what we always forget about John Gaines. I

595
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: don't forget about John Gaines. You're right, That's what happens

596
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: when you get when you get injured, your rooks out

597
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: of sight, out of mine, out of sight, out of mind.

598
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: Good.

599
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: But I do believe that once he does come into

600
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: the mix, you know, I do believe that John Gaines

601
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: could potentially make an impact. He seems like a very humble,

602
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: soft spoken guy. From the handful of times I was

603
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: able to speak to him before you know, his injury,

604
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: and then I spoke to him a few weeks ago,

605
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: uh for a story about a business venture that he

606
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: was taking party in with a handful of other Arizona Cardinals,

607
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: and he was saying how he's rehabbing, and it just

608
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: made him that much more hungrier to get out onto

609
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: the field. Good call Zach, thank you.

610
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 2: It's a name that should be top of mind. But

611
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: when you're not on the football field, you're not seeing

612
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, you get forgotten about, and that's that's

613
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 2: kind of what happens when guys are on IR you

614
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: get forgotten about. And no excuse on my part, but

615
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: you're right. John Gains is under contract for twenty twenty

616
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 2: five and someone that I do think needs to be

617
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: talked about a lot more because going into last season

618
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: when he was hurt, talking about Gains, Jonathan Gannon mentioned

619
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: that there was going to be a role for the

620
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: rookie and then he gets hurt and now someone else

621
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: had to fill that role. Now, jg wasn't specific as

622
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: far as the role, whether that was going to be

623
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 2: backup center, possibly in the mix to play left guard,

624
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 2: but he was going to be active, at least that's

625
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 2: how I took it. He was going to be active.

626
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: Gains was going to have a uniform on on game day,

627
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: play special teams, be in the mix, potential injury as

628
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: far as offensive line play, but that's another name. So

629
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: you've got three offensive linemen right now that are under

630
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 2: contract for next season. Or past next season outside. And

631
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: that's why now all of a sudden, I'm you convinced

632
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: me just talking out loud, yes, offensive line, because you've

633
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: got five different spots there, whether that's center, interior, or

634
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: on the tackle side. It's a high need when you

635
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: have eleven picks, and when there's.

636
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: A draft class like this where you know that you're

637
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna have some long term players that you're able to

638
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: bring in because of you know, the draft status and

639
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: the rookie contracts that you're ultimately going to be able

640
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 1: to sign them to, you start to have your future

641
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, figured out you don't

642
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 1: have to stress about it as much because I'm sure

643
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: Monty's looking at the board and he's saying, wow, we

644
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: only do have those three players right now under contract.

645
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: We are gonna have the same conversation again next season.

646
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: How can we you know, you know, put a fork

647
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: in the road right there and address that now so

648
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: that we don't run into this problem And hopefully this

649
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: coaching staff believes and a lot of analysts do believe,

650
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: which is, you know, when you look at a four

651
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: win team and I know, you know, like somebody the

652
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Brand's like, Oh, I don't mean to be offensive,

653
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: but they're the best four win team that I've seen.

654
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: If I'm a player, yes, like I kind of that's

655
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: like a backhanded compliment a little bit. But this is

656
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: a football team that they have a lot of the pieces,

657
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: and you're bringing in more pieces that you could switch

658
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: from a four win team to an eight win team,

659
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: a nine win team who knows run the gauntlet a

660
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: little bit and potentially make a playoff spot. Now that's

661
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, it's ambitious and it's hopeful. But if that

662
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: does happen at the end of the season, what players

663
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: do you have coming back because you don't have them,

664
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Speaker 1: especially with those that are not on their contract.

665
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Offensive line, No, it's not a target when you talk

666
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 2: about if the Cardinals stay at number four, but if

667
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: they should drop to eleven, twelve, thirteen, and then I

668
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: could see tackle certainly being someone that they or a

669
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: position that they take a look at. You drop down

670
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: to twenty seven or thirty five early in that second round.

671
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: Field Yates in the second round. His latest mock draft

672
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: had the Cardinals at thirty five, selecting Oregon center Jackson

673
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 2: Powers Johnson, who can play or sliding out to thirty five.

674
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's interesting.

675
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: It's someone that has been kind of a fringe first

676
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: round lates in the twenties. But here is Jackson Powers

677
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 2: Johnson available And again this is Field Yates's latest mock

678
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: draft at number thirty five, the nation's best center, the

679
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 2: Riminton Trophy Award winner, who does have the experience and

680
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: the ability to play guard, You sign or you draft

681
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 2: someone like that, and yeah, you're just sliding over to

682
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: your left to your right to play the guard position.

683
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: But you have experience in the event you need help

684
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: at the center spot.

685
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: If I was if I was Drew Petsing, which I'm not, thankfully, Thankfully,

686
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, when they do tried out for week one,

687
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: they're not going to be looking to the sidelines and

688
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: hoping to see Zach Gershman calling the shots. Thankfully in

689
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: that case. But I do think that the relationship between

690
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: Yell Defrohold and Kyler Murray cannot be I don't want

691
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: it to be messed around with, truthfully, Like you bring

692
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: in center that played center in college, great, try to

693
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: figure out a way to move him to guard, because

694
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: I think that Yell defro Hold proved that he can

695
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: be a really solid star starting center in the NFL.

696
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: He showed a lot of flashes, and then that chemistry

697
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray continued to develop. And I think with

698
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: having a full offseason, a full training camp going into

699
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: week one, with a handful of preseason games sprinkled in there,

700
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,479
Speaker 1: I don't think that that relationship with Kyler Murray should

701
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: be you know, you know, should be impacted at all.

702
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: I think that Yell Defole proved enough this past season

703
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,959
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three that he should be the starting center

704
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. That doesn't mean, though, that you

705
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: can't bring in a guard, or you can't bring in

706
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 1: a center and try to slide him over into guard

707
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: and then when Yell defro holds contract is up, you

708
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: had to decide to bring him back or you have

709
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: that ability in that versatility to slide somebody in agree though.

710
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 2: I'll say this, there was just eight games with Kyler

711
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: and froh Holtz. I don't know how much time they

712
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: were able to work on their own, but that chemistry

713
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: that you hope to develop in the off season, there

714
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 2: was none of that. Kyler had none of that with

715
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 2: anybody because it was focused on the rehab so you wonder, Okay,

716
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: we're looking to upgrade this center spot. Is that fro

717
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 2: Holt coming back for year two with a full off

718
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: season with Kyler? Is that Evan Brown who you just

719
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: brought in, or is that someone that you just drafted

720
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 2: who then would have a full off season to work

721
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 2: with QB One Though I'm of the opinion much like you,

722
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 2: it sounds like I want fro Holt to remain your

723
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: starting center because, at least from my vantage point, I

724
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 2: saw nothing that would say, all right, this position needs

725
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: to be better.

726
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 1: Again.

727
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: I don't know ali grade it out, but from what

728
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: I could see, whether that was from the press box

729
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: or watching on television, there were no issues as far

730
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: as that center quarterback exchange or a lot of pressure

731
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 2: from the interior. At least where fro Holt was beat

732
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 2: wasn't perfect, but I thought he played a very solid

733
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: center's position, which he had hardly any experience going in

734
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: to last year.

735
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: There's and it's such an underrated part too, is like

736
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: I know we keep talking about like, well, you know,

737
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: three different quarterbacks have to play, Well, that's three different

738
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that yell defro Hoold had to snap the ball to.

739
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: He had to get that. There's a very special relationship

740
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: between the center and the quarterback, especially when it comes

741
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: to hand placement, especially when you do that under center,

742
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: and when you're able to do that. We saw how

743
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: much Kyler Murray developed as an under center quarterback this

744
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: past season, putting up numbers that he hasn't seen in

745
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: his previous seasons with the Arizona Cardinals since coming into

746
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: the league being mostly that shotgun quarterback. With him being

747
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: under centered, you were able to see that chemistry developed.

748
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: But as a center, it's not easy when you have

749
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: somebody else in the backfield multiple times throughout the season

750
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: that you never want to have your backup quarterback playing.

751
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: You never want to have two different backup quarterbacks playing

752
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: and not know who you're going to be snapping the

753
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: ball to truly until Week ten and then there was

754
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: an added level of consistency. But it goes back to

755
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: what we were saying about the wide receiver spot. No

756
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: matter who you're bringing in, they're gonna have to develop

757
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: trust with Kyle Murray and that it was only eight games,

758
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: it was just that sample size, but I think that

759
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: yell Deferohold showed a lot. He was not when you

760
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: were watching film, it didn't seem like, oh that center position,

761
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: that's where there are some holes that needs to be addressed,

762
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: yelled defo hold. I thought they did a really solid

763
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: job holding it down.

764
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: So the draft primers offensive end are up or will

765
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: be up this week on Azycardinals dot Com Monday, Wide

766
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 2: receivers and then quarterback, tight end, running back, offensive line

767
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 2: will follow. Defense is in next week or a week

768
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: from Monday. As far as those positions, we'll talk about

769
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 2: that next time we have Zach here in studio. The

770
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 2: one other thing as far as the draft, one April

771
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Speaker 2: twenty fifth is the date Thursday, April twenty fifth, the

772
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 2: draft party, once again presented by Arizona four Dealers. It

773
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: is returning to the Great Lawn outside State Farm Stadium,

774
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: hosted by our colleague Paul Calvic. That will be Cardinals alumni,

775
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: big red cheerleaders. There's a post draft fireworks show. All

776
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: of this is free the admission and parking. You do

777
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,640
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778
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,280
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779
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Speaker 2: Party to be amongst Cardinal fans when the Cardinals are

780
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: on the clock at four, do they stick and pick

781
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 2: or do they trade down eleven, twelve, thirteen, or maybe

782
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 2: just a couple of spots to number six. Those are

783
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,959
Speaker 2: the kind of the teams, the spots that we've really

784
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: been talking about when it comes to the Giants, the Raiders,

785
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: the Vikings, and the Broncos.

786
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 1: Whoever it's gonna be, that's the question that everybody wants

787
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: to know. And those fans in attendance are going to

788
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: be able to get a really solid treat once that

789
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: player does come in, because you know, that's the pride

790
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals fan base. They're all gonna be

791
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: able to celebrate to you that this is a very

792
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: monumental draft for the Arizona Cardinals. This could be franchise

793
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: altering draft because of the type of talent that you

794
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: have coming in, and it is not always an opportunity

795
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: to have this type of draft class, to put it

796
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: together and to make it happen. This type of board

797
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: and the way that you know it is set up

798
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 1: doesn't happen every year. It's like it's like the solar eclipse.

799
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: It happens once every twenty and even then, it doesn't

800
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: always happen. It's true. It's still bright outside. Yeah. When

801
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: we were walking in, I told you my my college

802
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: roommate texted me. He's talking about the solar eclipse in Mexico.

803
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: He just texted me, was it sick? And I just wrote,

804
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: didn't even see it? Overrated. Yeah, so Michael, don't worry,

805
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: and he said, boo, He's right boo.

806
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, just completely missed it. Now yet twenty years to

807
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: wait for the next one in twenty forty four.

808
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you ready. Last thing is we talked draft.

809
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: I want to give you the chance to either gush

810
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 2: about this player or steer the Cardinals away from this

811
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: player because again, in addition to romadonsay, on Monday, reports

812
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: have Penn State edge rusher Chop Robinson in town for

813
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: a Top thirty.

814
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: Visits, Chops in crowdled Okay, there we go. No, I

815
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,400
Speaker 1: will say, and I've seen a he's a he's a

816
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: great edge rusher. He didn't really have the sack numbers

817
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 1: at Penn State, but I'm telling you he is a

818
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: dog like. That's the type of player that Nick Rolis likes,

819
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: that high motor, violent player. I saw that first hand

820
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: with Chop Robinson. At Penn State. I saw him terrorizing

821
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: big ten quarterbacks and it's not always easy to get

822
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: by a big ten offensive line, and I saw Chop

823
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: Robbinson do that a lot. If the Cardinals do decide to,

824
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, select Chop, he will be a great talent

825
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: to possibly have you hope that that that those stats

826
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: translate to the NFL. But just looking at him, his

827
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: just his physical appearance. There is a player that like

828
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: you look at and you're like, okay, that player was

829
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: developed in a lab. Chop Robinson's that player.

830
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: Six three two fifty four four sacks last season, five

831
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: and a half. In twenty twenty two, he did meet

832
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: with the Cardinals at the combine where he ran.

833
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: A four to four eight forty and he called that

834
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: He called it ahead of time. He went on, uh,

835
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: he was gonna run under four. He went on Mike

836
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: Florio Show and he said he was on a run

837
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: a four to four and he put up a four

838
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: to four. And to do that as an edge.

839
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: Rusher four more impressive. He posted the fastest ten yards

840
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: split for an edge rusher weighing more than two hundred

841
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: and fifty pounds. And to me, I don't care how

842
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 2: fast you run the forty, How quickly are you getting

843
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: off the line of scrimmage? And that's where that ten

844
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 2: yard split comes into play. Do you have that explosiveness

845
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: once the ball is snapped? Can you get into the

846
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: backfield quickly? Sas sometimes don't always tell the story. But

847
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 2: are you affecting the opposing quarterback getting in their phase,

848
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: forcing incompletions, folcing turnovers? And the Cardinals we do know

849
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: little hint. Yeah, they need help at the edge rush. Oh,

850
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: they definitely do need help. And once again, you're very

851
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: lucky with the board shaping out the way that it is.

852
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: This is a loaded class at edge rusher as well.

853
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: I feel like a broken record saying like, oh, just

854
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 2: insert plug and play position like this is. They're loaded

855
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: in offensive linemen, edge rushers, linebackers are really good ffeties, cornerbacks.

856
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different positions in this year's draft

857
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: where you could say, all right, they're they're loaded, and

858
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: I think EDG rusher. No matter who you possibly do,

859
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: decide to select, and you will likely select an edge

860
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: rusher in this year's draft, you're gonna have somebody that

861
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: makes you really important and really dominant, solid impact and

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Speaker 2: and again the draft primers. This week it's about the

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Speaker 2: primers on defense. And right now we're just gonna send

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Speaker 2: him and do bunchs of research on solar eclipses so

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Speaker 2: the world is enjoying on this Monday, April eighth.

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Speaker 1: For what I could see, I like seeing, you know,

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Speaker 1: being from the East coast where it's mostly overcast and

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Speaker 1: clouds in the sky. Don't. I don't think my eyes

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Speaker 1: are gonna tell me anything different. Soulary eclipse was overright,

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Speaker 1: didn't see any hint of like a flickering or you know,

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Speaker 1: loved it. It would have made for great content, content, content, content,

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Speaker 1: and instead it was just disappointment, disappointment, disappointment. Well, Cardinals

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Speaker 1: will not disappoint when it comes to the draft. I

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Speaker 1: have no doubt in Monti Austin for it. I know

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Speaker 1: video was resurfacing, yes, of him making moves in the

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Speaker 1: Flight Plan. I have no question in my mind that

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Speaker 1: Manti Austin for is going to be able to deliver

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Speaker 1: another incredible draft class in Monty.

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Speaker 2: We trust again. In less than three weeks until the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four NFL Drafts, still plenty of time to

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Speaker 2: decide to discuss and dissect what we think and maybe

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Speaker 2: what the Cardinals should do over those three days and

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Speaker 2: right now with eleven total picks. On that note, we

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Speaker 2: will put a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 2: two presented by Hundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: As always, special thanks to our executive producer jem On Mahindra,

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Speaker 2: our associate producer Coddy Fincher for Zach Kershman, I'm Craig

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Speaker 2: Real Lou. We'll talk to you next time here on

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Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two.