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Speaker 2: Only on the.

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Speaker 3: Jubile Show, Laura is on the phone today for to

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Speaker 3: Catch a Cheater and she thinks that her husband of

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Speaker 3: four years named Cam might be sleeping around. So hopefully

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Speaker 3: he isn't, but we'll see if we can help you out, Laura,

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Speaker 3: why don't you tell us what's going on?

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Speaker 1: So, Kim my husband of like four years, and we've

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Speaker 1: been through a lot that I would say mostly are

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Speaker 4: I mean, we don't really fight much, but when we do,

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Speaker 4: it tends to always be kind of the same topic.

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Speaker 1: So you're trying to have like this.

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Speaker 4: Former life, like a whole different side of Cam. And

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Speaker 4: he even actually refers to it as like the time

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Speaker 4: before we met and he was just like a completely

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Speaker 4: completely different person, like different career, different friends. But there's

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Speaker 4: like this one friend that he has, but I don't

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Speaker 4: know just from like day one, I have not been

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Speaker 5: So who is the friend? Like is it a guy

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Speaker 5: friend that gets him into trouble? Is it a girlfriend

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Speaker 5: you don't want him to time with? So it's with

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Speaker 5: a girl named Holly.

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Speaker 4: And through the years, like he's told me all these

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Speaker 4: stories about he and Holly's to like party really hard,

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Speaker 1: He's stayed friends with Holly this whole time, and you know,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, I haven't I haven't been thrilled about that.

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Speaker 4: But but it's like things have totally taken a turn,

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Speaker 4: and I feel like he's hiding something about Holly.

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Speaker 1: I can tell. I can tell when he's been.

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Speaker 4: Like communicating with her, and he's like started to like

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Speaker 1: And the first even like.

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Speaker 4: One night where he was just texting like really late

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Speaker 1: Come back in and texting. And I did ask him

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Speaker 4: Said something like she just needed advice from him, and

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Speaker 4: He never said that they like anything happened between them.

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Speaker 4: I get this like weird feeling.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he kind of somewhat hinted at it, but

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Speaker 1: So my last traw, I got an.

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Speaker 4: Email from our cell phone company and it said that

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Speaker 4: there's been a phone added and it was in all

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Speaker 4: his name and yeah, and it's like a nice, nice

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Speaker 4: new phone, and so you know, I saw this, and

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, so basically, that's why I'm calling you guys,

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Speaker 4: because I like that that's just my radar antenna or

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Speaker 1: And this was kind of this is like the last straw.

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Speaker 2: Would you add him one to your phone plan?

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Speaker 1: That's so obvious.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels kind of sloppy. But also if he

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Speaker 5: why don't you give your side piece like a burner

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless it's like hiding in plain sight.

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Speaker 1: Right, like wants to be taught.

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Speaker 5: Is he acting different outside of the way that he

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Speaker 5: Is he still good with you? Or is he just

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Speaker 1: No, things actually don't seem different with us.

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Speaker 4: I guess I've been a bit more like stressed out

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Speaker 1: Just like he's he's not pulling away.

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Speaker 5: From me any but you just feel like there's a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean the phone thing is strange. Yeah. And what did

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Speaker 1: Well, he didn't say about the phone.

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Speaker 4: He when I, you know, was asking him why he

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Speaker 1: And he didn't really go into any details of like

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Speaker 3: And did you ask him about adding her on the phone? No, Oh,

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Speaker 3: figure out. You already told us what grocery store you

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Speaker 3: guys are Awards card member at. So we'll call and

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Speaker 3: pretend to be from the grocery store and say that

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Speaker 3: every single month, we choose one Rewards card member at

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Speaker 3: random who gets free flowers delivered from our floral department.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if he sends those to you or to

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Speaker 3: someone else or her right, Okay, hopefully not, but we'll see.

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Speaker 3: We'll play a song come back and get your to

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Speaker 3: catch a cheater.

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Speaker 1: Next, it's time to catch a cheater only on.

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Speaker 3: The tuble show if you're just joining us for today's

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Speaker 3: to Catch a Cheater. Laura is on the phone and

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Speaker 3: she thinks that her husband Cam of four years might

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Speaker 3: be cheating. So we're about to call and pretend to

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Speaker 3: be from the grocery store that the Rewards Card members

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Speaker 3: at and say that he's the lucky winner. Every single month,

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Speaker 3: we choose one Rewards Card member who gets free flowers

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Speaker 3: delivered from our floral department. We'll see if he sends

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Speaker 3: those flowers to Laura or to somebody else. But before

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Speaker 3: we do that, Laura, why don't you refresh everybody's memory

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Speaker 1: So Cam has this like longtime friend from before we were.

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Speaker 4: Embre together and Holly, and she just has been texting

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Speaker 4: And basically I found out from our phone company that

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Speaker 2: So weird. Yeah, that is weird. Yeah, and you haven't

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Speaker 1: No, that's why I called you, guys.

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Speaker 4: I just I didn't know what, you know, if he

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Speaker 1: So I figured you guys could get.

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Speaker 6: To the bottom of this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and she's not an ex, but she's somebody that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, cool, Okay, are you ready for us to

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Thanks, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hi, my name is Jordan. I'm calling from I was

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Speaker 3: looking for our rewards card member named Cam.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Cam, please don't hang up. This is not a

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Speaker 3: I'm actually calling a safe thank thank you very much

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Speaker 3: for shopping with us, and congratulations here this month's big winner.

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Speaker 6: Oh so, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Every single month, we choose one Rewards card member at

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Speaker 3: thank you very much for shopping. You've just won thirty

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Speaker 3: six long stim red roses, a box of candy, your chocolates,

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Speaker 1: Well that's cool.

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Speaker 6: Yeah I didn't know you guys did this.

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Speaker 3: Well we do, and you are this month's lucky winner.

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Speaker 3: So I will first need the first and last name

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Speaker 3: of the person you'd like to send them to.

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Speaker 1: It's a Holly would you like to put anything in

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Speaker 1: a card? Yeah, I'm always here for you.

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Speaker 2: Love camp.

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Speaker 3: And now I will inform you that this is not

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Speaker 3: the grocery store at all. My name is Jewbell and

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Speaker 3: this is a radio show. It's called the Jebel Show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, camer're all here.

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Speaker 1: My name is Nina.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm Victoria. And your wife Laura is actually

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Speaker 3: on the phone. What we do a segon on the

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Speaker 3: show called to Catch a Cheater, and then we try

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure she's got some questions for you.

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Speaker 1: Great, that's that's all. That's all you have? Is great? Really,

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Speaker 1: what is this?

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Speaker 6: What are you? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Like you had to you went, you had.

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Speaker 6: To go through his length to kind of just talk

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What am I doing? What are you doing? My God?

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Speaker 6: Like, yeah, this is this is a ridiculous way of

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Speaker 2: Are you cheating?

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Speaker 6: No, no, I'm not cheating.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh really, how do you explain You're sending flowers

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, Yeah, I'm so good. Obviously I know

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Speaker 6: I know this is ironic considering the situation. He took everything,

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Speaker 6: so she gets her own.

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Speaker 6: And that's that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, has your wife, has Laura your wife cam

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Speaker 6: No, but I mean I can tell she it bothers her.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well that's not exactly a very compassionate way to

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Speaker 2: You could address it with her.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I know how sounds and I know

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Speaker 6: how it looks. But yeah, that's that's that's all. There is, not.

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Speaker 5: Really making a compelling argument, and I know I'm kind

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Speaker 5: This is such a misunderstanding, Laura. Are you believe are

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm so confused.

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Speaker 4: Knowing Cam's heart, it sounds like something he would do,

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Speaker 4: but like the mistrust of me to like to not

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Speaker 6: Like, I'm sorry, I really am. I just I just

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Speaker 6: it makes you uncomfortable. I didn't. I figured me doing

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Speaker 6: I don't want to like add more stress to Holly's

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Speaker 1: To tell you because I didn't.

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Speaker 6: You know, I want you to freak out or get

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Speaker 1: You can see how this looks though, like, oh, I

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Speaker 6: I just don't tell you. I know, I'm sorry, and like,

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Speaker 6: I just I'm just trying to help out a friend,

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Speaker 2: Leaving her was totally abrupt, and you.

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Speaker 6: Know she's kind of a mess about it. So who's

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Speaker 4: But but you said love cam on your flowers, like

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Speaker 6: I said, I said it to her before. You know,

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Speaker 6: it's like she's my friend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, you promise, Katers did nothing.

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Speaker 6: Like I promise, I promise. There's nothing going.

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Speaker 5: On that sounds like you need to sit down, and.

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Speaker 1: Just like I think that's a great idea.

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Speaker 4: I think we should sit down with Holly, because you

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Speaker 1: And I think that is a great idea. No more secrets.

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Speaker 1: I just this is.

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Speaker 4: This has been like the scariest time I've gone through.

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Speaker 6: And to you too, we sat down and I think

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Speaker 6: nothing else going on.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, let's let's do that. I think I

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Speaker 1: think we all need need that right now.

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Speaker 2: I need that right now.

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Speaker 1: I want to go. I want to see it for

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Speaker 1: myself too.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: I know you guys obviously have stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Cam sounds sincere to me, though, like he does sound

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Speaker 5: Actually kind of respect the fact that he's looking out

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Just communication, Yeah right.

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Speaker 3: I know you didn't want to tell your wife that

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Speaker 3: you were helping your friend out like that because you

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Speaker 3: telling her, it actually looks worse than if you did

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Speaker 3: tell her.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Oh, I know, Okay, good luck.

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Speaker 3: And good luck you know, talk it out and hopefully

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Speaker 3: you guys can all get together and and work things out. O.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 5: The Jewble shows to catch a cheater.