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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Everybody? Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory m

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Speaker 2: channeler Room, joined by Tyler Stafford and a special guest,

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Speaker 2: the reigning Astro's Minor League Pitcher of the Year Ethan Peco,

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Speaker 2: fresh off of his second appearance for Triple A sugar

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Speaker 2: Land last night, following Luis Garcia in his rehab start.

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Speaker 2: First of all, Ethan, did Luis treat you guys?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: What was the spread like after his rehab start?

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Speaker 1: Spread was great? You know, all the big leaguers, they're

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Speaker 1: they're super cool to be around. They're very genuine. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're just like us. It's a little shell shocking at

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Speaker 1: first just to see these guys in the same locker room,

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Speaker 1: but when you get to know them, they're just like us,

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Speaker 1: just baseball players looking out their dreams. And they've been great.

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Speaker 2: So you guys have I mean, unfortunately for the major

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Speaker 2: league club, the minor league team has seen a lot

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Speaker 2: of rehabbers this season come through, whether you were in

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Speaker 2: Double A or Triple A, do you have one memory

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Speaker 2: sticks out from this year as a rehabbing guy coming

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Speaker 2: through that that you took something from or watching them

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Speaker 2: prepare and how they went about their business.

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Speaker 1: Watching Javier and Frisco was pretty cool because obviously we

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Speaker 1: mentioned I'm from Philadelphia. He was a Phillies fan, so

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Speaker 1: I watched him pitch against the Phillies in the World Series,

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Speaker 1: and that guy, I mean, he is cold blooded, like

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what's happening. He shows no emotion, and

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Speaker 1: he's very relaxed, very calm. His prep is great, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you wouldn't even think he's going into a

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Speaker 1: baseball game the way he warms up and how easy

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Speaker 1: like how calm he really is and that's why he's

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Speaker 1: great in those big moments.

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Speaker 4: Do you know that he has the nickname El Repteel

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Speaker 4: because they call him cold blooded or was that just okay,

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Speaker 4: there you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard the nickname and then I saw it

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Speaker 1: in person, and I was like, that is the perfect nickname,

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Speaker 1: because that guy it's almost like I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you guys watch golf, but it's almost like Dustin Johnson,

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Speaker 1: where like I can't tell if he's doing bad or

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Speaker 1: good because he just shows no emotion and he's super calm,

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Speaker 1: and it's just really impressive. To watch.

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Speaker 4: You were golf captain right, yes, back in the day. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: what are you? What are you shooting now?

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Speaker 1: Oh? I don't get to play enough. It depends if

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Speaker 1: I play well. I can. I can shoot in the seventies,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also a guy that could go shoot ninety

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Speaker 1: if I'm not playing well. I've talked to blue Ball.

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Speaker 1: I've heard he's really good, so I'm looking to get

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Speaker 1: out and I play with him, spend the round out

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Speaker 1: there with him.

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Speaker 2: So I can't add anything to this discourse. I've played

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Speaker 2: one round of golf in my life, and it included

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Speaker 2: me falling out of the cart on the thirteenth hole.

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Speaker 2: On the thirteenth hole after a few beverages. That was

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Speaker 2: the one round fun. It was a great time man,

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Speaker 2: great time golf forever. Even you mentioned you grew up

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Speaker 2: twenty minutes outside of Philly. We're a Phillies fan. You

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Speaker 2: mentioned the twenty twenty two World Series. The Astros drafted

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Speaker 2: you in twenty twenty three, so technically you could still

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Speaker 2: get away with being a Phillies fan in the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty two World Series. Did you get out to the

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Speaker 2: bank at all of those three games? I was there

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Speaker 2: covering it that was that was an electric environment. Were

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Speaker 1: Of those So I was never there for any of

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Speaker 1: at school, but I will say I was rooting very

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Speaker 1: hard against the Astro So it was funny when I

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Speaker 1: got drafted, everyone was like, oh my god, congratulations the Astros.

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Speaker 1: But now it's been great. I mean, I can't say

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Speaker 1: enough things about how good this orger is and how

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Speaker 1: much they've helped me. You know, I was a guy

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Speaker 1: and their development is just off the charts, and and

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Speaker 4: So I mean, you've already mentioned watching Hobbyer, but that's

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Speaker 4: another I mean, the Ashers have so many stories of

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Speaker 4: guys who were either late round draft picks or you know,

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Speaker 4: quote unquote smaller siinees in the international market and have

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Speaker 4: the different organizations and like what they do for development

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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't know much about the development across

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Speaker 1: any of the orgs, but I mean the Astros that

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Speaker 1: kind of speaks for itself. They just win. They constantly win.

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Speaker 1: They're bringing guys up every year. I mean even this

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Speaker 1: you don't win this much if you're not doing something right.

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Speaker 1: So when I got drafted to them, it was like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this team knows what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: A good ORG.

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Speaker 1: They obviously like have the keys to success down. So

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Speaker 1: I've done.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned you you got into the ORG throwing two pitches.

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Speaker 2: Uh you Now I have your Savant I have your

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Speaker 2: Savant game log pulled up from last night. Uh, they

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Speaker 2: say you threw six pitches last night, forcing slider, curveball, cutter,

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Speaker 2: change of sinker. We'll get to the We'll get to

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Speaker 2: the development of the Arsenal in a minute, but Tyler

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Speaker 2: alluded to like the small school drafting that the Astros

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Speaker 2: have been so adept at. I think you take it

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Speaker 2: a step further. Yeah, Ethan, you were obviously you got

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Speaker 2: drafted out of thousand, but that was not your first stop.

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Speaker 2: You were at LaSalle as a freshman. And you correct

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Speaker 2: me if I'm wrong on this. You underwent Tommy John

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Speaker 2: And then LaSalle acts their baseball program.

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Speaker 1: So yes, So this was right after COVID. Coming out

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Speaker 1: of high school. I had no offers. It was walk on,

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Speaker 1: it was a D two, it was Lasal, which was

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Speaker 1: At the same time, I started dealing with some elbow

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Speaker 1: just I sent out probably eighty five emails to colleges

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Speaker 2: So can I don't Can you take me through what

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Speaker 2: it's like when you get told hey, we're cutting the

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Speaker 2: And is there a point where you're ever like, man, like,

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Speaker 1: Definitely? Definitely. So it was actually over zoom. It was

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Speaker 1: But a couple couple guys that are in the pros.

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Speaker 1: Like we had pro caliber guys on that team and

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Speaker 1: so that just really motivated me. And yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: So I mean, at what point in the next two

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Speaker 4: I could go pro because, like you said, I mean

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Speaker 4: you threw what sixty total innings basically in college, Like

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Speaker 4: how how did the astros find you? How did they

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 4: How does that happen?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just think you know to whoever's

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Speaker 1: you're good enough, they will find you. The draft is

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Speaker 1: the ability to get drafted. And then as soon as

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Speaker 1: just need to stay healthy and I can really do this.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, I have my first full year

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Speaker 2: I mean you you really do kind of epitomize. What

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Speaker 2: Have you have you surprised yourself just with how quickly

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Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely, I mean how could I not Like, I

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Speaker 5: Cliff Lee, Yeah, Alls w and then you had Joe

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Speaker 5: Blenton hitting home runs.

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Speaker 4: So rad Ledge too. I mean that was a that

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Speaker 4: was a nasty pitching staff.

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Speaker 1: So they should have won more than one.

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Speaker 2: It's tough. You probably don't want to hear about forty

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Speaker 2: four as it relates to the modern air Phillies, given

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Speaker 2: given what ord On Alvarez did in games.

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Speaker 5: That moment.

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Speaker 4: Me too. That was a cool one.

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Speaker 1: Well for me, I'm sure it was great.

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Speaker 2: I think I think one of my favorite clubhouse interactions

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Speaker 2: with anyone Mauricio Dubon. I think it was last year

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Speaker 2: the Astros weren't they were in a pretty long winning

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Speaker 2: streak and it came to an end against the Phillies

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Speaker 2: at Dyke And and I think it was Dubon who

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Speaker 2: struck out against Alvarado to end the game. And we

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Speaker 2: weren't interviewing Dubon about like striking out the end of

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Speaker 2: the game. It was more of like, hey, how how

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Speaker 2: great was this win streak and everything? And the first

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Speaker 2: thing he said was, I have so much more respect

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Speaker 2: for Jordan Alvarez now than I ever thought I did,

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Speaker 2: because I just faced Jose Alvarado and like, I have

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Speaker 2: no clue how he hit that ball last year a

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Speaker 2: dead center in.

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Speaker 1: Games in that moment against that guy, it's one of

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Speaker 1: the most impressive home runs I've ever watched.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people listening that would agree

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Speaker 2: with you, Ethan. Before we get you out of here.

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Speaker 2: You're in Triple A, now you're in Sugarland. You made

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Speaker 2: like we mentioned, you made your second appearance last night

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Speaker 2: after Luis Garcia's rehab start. What has been your early

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Speaker 2: impressions of the Space Cowboys? And I get it you've

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Speaker 2: only had two appearances, But what do you think or

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Speaker 2: what have you maybe been told is the biggest adjustments

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Speaker 2: you'll have to make going from double A to triple A?

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Speaker 2: And is there a little bit more? I don't know

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Speaker 2: about mental energy, but is there a little bit more

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Speaker 2: just a height and awareness that you're you're a call away. Now,

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Speaker 2: you're you're a step away from, uh, from the big leagues.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. I mean you see it in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: like I mean, John Singleton's in the locker room, Bryce Matthews,

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Speaker 1: Jacob Melton who just got called back up. And then

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Speaker 1: you see it on the other side. You see guys

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Speaker 1: that have been in the big leagues, played in the

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Speaker 1: big leagues. You know, there's guys in our bullpen that

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Speaker 1: have two, three, four years of service, So you definitely

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Speaker 1: realize it. I've said to other people that this jump

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Speaker 1: double A to triple A just just feels not only

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Speaker 1: the coolest, but like the most important. You can just

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Speaker 1: kind of feel the energy. It feels like a big

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Speaker 1: league team in a big league locker room, the way

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Speaker 1: everyone goes about their business. And the biggest thing for

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Speaker 1: me is, you know, adjusting to the baseball a little

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Speaker 1: bit and then adjusting to the strike zone. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's you can really feel the strike zone. Then if

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Speaker 1: you're not getting ahead, if you're not getting in the

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Speaker 1: zone early, that these guys aren't gonna swing. They know

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Speaker 1: the zone so well and it's not a big strike zone.

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Speaker 1: So that's been the biggest adjustment for me. But I

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Speaker 1: feel like I've done well. The strikeouts are there, it's

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Speaker 1: just limiting certain things and you just have to focus

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Speaker 1: a little bit more pitch by pitch and really just

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Speaker 1: be dialed in each outing because you know, if you

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Speaker 1: let one batter get away from you, who knows what

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Speaker 1: happens in the next batter. You know, it could be

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Speaker 1: a double off the wall, it could be a single

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Speaker 1: up the middle where a guy steals and now he's

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Speaker 1: on its first and third and now you're in a hole.

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Speaker 1: So like, just really focusing in and trusting your stuff

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Speaker 1: and getting in the zone has been the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 4: All Right, we've made it twenty five minutes and I've

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Speaker 4: been very I've waited on this. If you're watching on YouTube, Ethan,

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Speaker 4: I am personally rooting for you, just because my Halloween

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Speaker 4: costume will be locked up for a good while. If

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Speaker 4: you ever need like a stunt double, I feel like

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Speaker 4: I can come in there and uh and trick anybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: for sure, you might throw the hair out a little.

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Speaker 4: I know, well I used to have real hair. Now

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Speaker 4: I'm old and balding, so I can't. I can't compete

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Speaker 4: with you there. But but definitely we'll lock up a

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Speaker 4: solid Halloween costume. So you got some extra pressure for

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Speaker 4: me on that end.

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Speaker 2: That's that's what you have to look forward to.

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Speaker 5: Ethan.

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Speaker 2: I apologize in advance. This was this was excellent. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate we appreciate you taking time, especially after you pitched

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Speaker 2: last night. Yeah, I mean, going four innings in a

523
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Speaker 2: professional baseball game is no laughing matter. You probably wanted

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Speaker 2: to sleep in, but I appreciate you're getting up taking

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Speaker 2: some time to talk to us. I know our fans

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Speaker 2: will love hearing from you and continued best of luck

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Speaker 2: in triple A and who knows, maybe, uh maybe we'll

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Speaker 2: see you in the big league sometime soon.

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Speaker 1: Yep, thank you guys so much for having me really.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it, Ethan.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Ethan, and we'll be back with another

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Speaker 2: segment right after a message from our friends of Foul Territory.

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Speaker 3: I see in the grail a Bobby Witt Junior twenty

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Speaker 2: Tyler. That was fun.

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Speaker 4: That was he was great.

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Speaker 2: He was awesome for someone that, you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how much media exposure Ethan's had, especially going to

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Speaker 2: talsand I don't think there were beat writers lining up

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Speaker 2: to cover talsand Baseball really polished, really well spoken, and

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Speaker 2: I thought it was fascinating to hear. That's the first

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Speaker 2: time I had really heard like what they do with

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Speaker 2: the guys right after, Like I assume it was Eric Neeson,

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Speaker 2: their former pitching coordinator who's now the pitching coach at

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Speaker 2: Wake Forest brought him in and like they're basically teaching

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Speaker 2: them a class, like here's how you pitch, Here's how

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Speaker 2: you pitch at the professional. That was really cool to hear.

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Speaker 4: If you could pass that on to them. I did

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Speaker 4: write the onboarding training for my sales organization that I

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Speaker 4: work in, so if they need some help with with onboarding,

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Speaker 4: these guys. I'm really good at power points making some presentation,

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Speaker 4: so I'd be happy to help out there if anybody

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Speaker 4: needs that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just have a blue zone and a red zone.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like, how hard can it be? Hey, have

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Speaker 4: you guys considered throwing better pitches? Have you we thought

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Speaker 4: of that?

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Speaker 2: Please throw strikes? Decent advice astros last night got I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say it was certainly not a must

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Speaker 2: win game, but a feel good win. Certainly after what

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Speaker 2: was said pregame about.

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Speaker 4: John, I will say it was a must save win.

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Speaker 4: The a break you had to make that safe.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah, Yeah, a lot of interesting things in that one.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about the game itself that much,

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Speaker 2: but I wrote a little bit about it on the

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Speaker 2: Athletic this morning. Watching Hunter Brown just completely shell this

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Speaker 2: fastball after the first time through, which is the second

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Speaker 2: best fastball in the sport behind maybe Joe Ryan's. Watching

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Speaker 2: him carve through that lineup with his secondary stuff, with

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Speaker 2: his curveball, his change up, his sinker, it really shows

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Speaker 2: the evolution of Hunter Brown, just kind of how well

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Speaker 2: rounded of a pitcher he is that he doesn't just

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Speaker 2: need to bully you with ninety seven at the top

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Speaker 2: rail with the four seam, that he can go away

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Speaker 2: from what is one of the best pitches in baseball

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Speaker 2: and still be really effective. I thought it was Look,

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Speaker 2: he's had better outings in terms of swing and miss,

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Speaker 2: he's had better outings in terms of just stuff. But

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Speaker 2: I mean I thought that was a real growth outing

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Speaker 2: for Hunter Brown to really show you that this kid

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Speaker 2: is he's an ace and he is a guy. What

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Speaker 2: do we talk about with aces all the time. It's like,

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Speaker 2: if you don't have your best stuff, you still find

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Speaker 2: a way to get through six, Or if an opposing

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Speaker 2: lineup takes away your best pitch, you still have other

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Speaker 2: methods to neutralize them. Hunter did both of those last night.

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Speaker 2: He was excellent.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, like you said, whenever a guy can

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Speaker 4: get out without being on their game that day. And

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Speaker 4: I feel like we've said that a lot about Hunter

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Speaker 4: Brown this year, where it's like, i mean, he's been incredible,

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Speaker 4: but still they're they're he's able to just get through

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Speaker 4: it without having his best stuff at the time, and

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Speaker 4: to see those adjustments, like you said, is really impressive.

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Speaker 4: And that speaks to the preparation the coaching staff and

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Speaker 4: the the ability to just turn on a dime, you know,

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Speaker 4: in the in the middle of a game, and say, Okay,

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Speaker 4: this isn't working, let's go with this other plan. And

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Speaker 4: uh to you know, to watch a play out was

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Speaker 4: really cool. Uh you were at the game. I enjoy

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Speaker 4: I always love the broadcast from Weird Locations games, big

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Speaker 4: fan of those. I love on the home Run calls

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Speaker 4: that the MIC's like clip because everyone's screaming too loud

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Speaker 4: around them. You can't really hear what they're saying. It's great.

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Speaker 4: I love that. It's a lot of fun to watch

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Speaker 4: those games.

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Speaker 2: Good. I'm gonna react to the pain you leadoff, Homer.

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Speaker 2: That was almost too.

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Speaker 4: Oh it was great. Like I said, it's it's clipping

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Speaker 4: so much that I mean it sounds like he's yelling

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Speaker 4: through like a you know, megaphone or something like a bullhorn.

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Speaker 4: But it was great. Yeah, I love that they do that.

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Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Dude, the balls coming right to me, Dude, I got

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Speaker 2: my glove. Brian A. Bray who came in, or Bennett

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Speaker 2: Susa first of all, Bennet Susa, good lord, that slider

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Speaker 2: was nasty last night. Got four huge outs and then

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Speaker 2: as Joe Aspota so eloquently put it, Brian A Bray,

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Speaker 2: you got pissed off after he gave up two singles

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Speaker 2: to start the ninth inning. Hit one hundred a couple

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Speaker 2: of times looks the part of a closer and will

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Speaker 2: probably be a closer for the rest of the season,

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Speaker 2: given uh the foreboding news that Joe spot has shared

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Speaker 2: before the game that Josh Hater is seeking a second

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Speaker 2: opinion on his left shoulder strain. I'm not gonna sit

653
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 2: here and speculate, but I think we everyone with a

654
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: working brain can understand if you're seeking a second opinion,

655
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: it's because you didn't really love what the first opinion said.

656
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: Joe Spotta wouldn't really reveal what the first opinion was.

657
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 2: He said that the team wants to give Josh some

658
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: space to seek a second opinion. This does not sound good.

659
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 2: It does not sound like he is going to be

660
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Speaker 2: back anytime soon. I don't want to speculate beyond that,

661
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: but suffice to say, Brian Abrady will be getting the

662
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: final out, the bigger outs of many Astros games going forward.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a real journalist, so I can speculate all

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Speaker 4: I want. That sucks Yep, it's not good. It's gonna

665
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: be bad news when it comes. Yeah, you don't get

666
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Speaker 4: second opinions if the first opinion is good. I mean,

667
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Speaker 4: I'm sure you're getting second opinions a lot of times anyway.

668
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Speaker 4: But anytime someone says, hey, this professional athlete needs some

669
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 4: space to process what we just learned, that's bad. That's

670
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: that's not a good sign. I mean, I feel for Josh.

671
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: Ari's had an incredible year. The Ashers are going to

672
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Speaker 4: have to keep doing what they've done all year, which is, hey,

673
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: our best player is now hurt. Who else can do this? Uh?

674
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 4: And they've they've made it this far, so we'll see.

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00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 4: But man, I speedy recovery for for Josh. Honestly, I'm

676
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Speaker 4: not even hoping for speedy. I'm just hoping for recovery

677
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: or for Josh. I hope that whatever's going on, he's

678
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Speaker 4: able to come back from get back to the level

679
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 4: that he's been at because he's one of the best

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Speaker 4: relievers in baseball and h it really seeks to see

681
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 4: that taken away from from injury.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a I mean, I hate to steal Joe

683
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: a spot of his words, but a gut punch I mean,

684
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 2: if this happens, I hate to think of it like this,

685
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 2: but I mean, if this happens a month ago, Dana

686
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 2: Brown's got two weeks to go on the on the

687
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 2: to the trade deadline, and pitching is a bigger priority,

688
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 2: Like you can go fix this if this happens three

689
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: weeks ago. But there is no more, uh non.

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Speaker 4: There weren't a lot of Josh haters available the deadline.

691
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Speaker 2: But you again, and I want to make this clear too,

692
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Speaker 2: because I was getting some pushback in comments sections which

693
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: I should definitely always keep reading, and just when you

694
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: keep bringing up that the Ashers didn't address pitching at

695
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Speaker 2: the deadline and oh, like they didn't have a hater, Like, no,

696
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: they didn't, but they could have gotten like another setup

697
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: guy to help have depth behind who is now Brian

698
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: a braid of the closer, Like it didn't just have

699
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 2: to be go out and get Duran or go out

700
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: and get you know whatever, David Bednar or Camello Daval, Like,

701
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 2: you didn't have to be a closer. You could have

702
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: gotten like I mean, this is an organization that is

703
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: really good at identifying pitching that they can turn around to.

704
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: I mean, we just talked to a for twenty five

705
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: minutes that they went and found in po dunk nowhere,

706
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: Maryland and now have him throwing five pitches on the

707
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: precipice of being in the big leagues. So yeah, it's

708
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 2: just it's a tough situation. This is the team they

709
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: have though, like there is no more they can go

710
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: on the waiver wire and try to find like an

711
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: al Della Santos, like they can go get some other guys,

712
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: but they can't make trades like this is it. This

713
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 2: is who they have, and they're gonna have to just

714
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: kind of compensate. And it's gonna put a lot more

715
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 2: pressure Tyler on the starting pitching to get to a

716
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: point where these guys aren't having to get ten or

717
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: eleven outs a night. Like Hunter Brown didn't finish the

718
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,439
Speaker 2: seventh inning last night, but that new look bullpen still

719
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 2: only had to get seven outs, Like you can deal

720
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: with getting seven outs. When you start talking about ten

721
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: or eleven outs, that's when you start to walk a

722
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: slippery slope, especially without Josh haters. So it's gonna put

723
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 2: a lot of onus on Hunter Brown, and it's gonna

724
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: put a ton of onus on fromber Valdez, who is

725
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: starting a Friday series opener against the Orioles and Tyler.

726
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 2: He needs to bounce back a little bit because he's

727
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 2: had two consecutive starts that I think if you watched

728
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: both starts, they weren't maybe as disastrous as the line

729
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Speaker 2: would indicate, but certainly not the Fromber that he had

730
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Speaker 2: been for the last three months of the year. His

731
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: last two starts, he's allowed, you know, fifteen hits and

732
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: eleven and two thirds innings, has a six nine four ERA,

733
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: But as we just said that six nine four ERA

734
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 2: in his last two starts, he's a three nine seven FIP,

735
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: So that disparity shows you there's some poor luck there.

736
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: But they need fromber Valdez to be the to be

737
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 2: the Fromber that we know he is.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they had won thirteen straight Frombers starts, and the

739
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 4: Astra has now lost the last three Fromber starts. I mean,

740
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: still great record overall, they're fifteen and eight and Fromerstar

741
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 4: arts this year. But you know, looking at him, the

742
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 4: last two games he's pitched, he has combined for eleven

743
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 4: and two thirds innings and four strikeouts. So what I'm

744
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 4: really looking for in this next game. I mean, obviously

745
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: just a win that that really was, but I'm looking

746
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: to see him bounce back with strikeouts and get the

747
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: curveball working, get the sinker working. So yeah, I mean,

748
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 4: that's that's what I'm looking for here.

749
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: The biggest thing, and like you just alluded to it,

750
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 2: the biggest thing. His curveball has not been what it

751
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: was earlier in the season, and when he doesn't have that,

752
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: he has to rely on the sinker. And look, the

753
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: sinker is a great pitch, but sinker he's going to

754
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 2: allow balls and play, and when you put the ball

755
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: in play, some weird stuff can happen, as just evidenced

756
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: by he said a lot of infield hits. He's had

757
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 2: a lot of just balls that have found holes, things

758
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: like that. But he's got to get his curveball working.

759
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: And you know, it's one of these is that tomorrow

760
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: is a big start for Fromber. Tomorrow's a big start

761
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 2: for the Ashers, and it's one reason that Fromber Valdez

762
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 2: is the focus of our Draft Kings Player spotlight. Tyler,

763
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: you mentioned, you know, Fromber has not had these strikeout

764
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 2: pitches or the strikeout numbers that we are accustomed to

765
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: seeing from him, he's gonna get an Orioles lineup. That

766
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: Gunner Henderson's still there, Adlie Ritchman's still there. Not a

767
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: ton else they sold at the deadline. This has been

768
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: one of the most if not the most disappointing teams

769
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: in baseball. They have an interim manager. This is a

770
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 2: get right spot for Fromber Valdez and the Ashers really

771
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: need him to get right.

772
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So looking at his DraftKings profile, I'm looking for

773
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 4: both under on walks because last game he had four walks,

774
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 4: which is not the norm for Fromer, especially not as

775
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 4: of late, and one strikeout, so I think that's that's

776
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: a point of emphasis for him in this start. I'm

777
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: looking at overs on strikeouts unders on walks because like

778
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 4: you said, Orioles are not a very good lineup. I

779
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 4: would imagine Fromber has been thinking a lot about his

780
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: last three starts and really wants to come in and

781
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 4: correct those. And like we said, he's he's gonna throw

782
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 4: one hundred pitches no matter what. So he's going out

783
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,320
Speaker 4: there and getting deep into the games, and I would

784
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 4: expect to see an uptick in strikeouts and getting those

785
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 4: walks under control.

786
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: You mentioned the Orioles. This is an Orioles lineup that

787
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: this season has a six fifty nine OPS against left

788
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 2: handed pitching. Yeah, they have a two ninety seven on

789
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: base percentage against left handed pitching. This is this is

790
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: the epitome of a get right game for fromber Veldez.

791
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Speaker 2: Who has to you know, Hunter Brown showed on Thursday

792
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 2: that that I mean on Wednesday. Excuse me that that's

793
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 2: what Aces do. Fromer Veldez needs to follow him on

794
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 2: Friday against a bad lineup that is playing out the

795
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,680
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796
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: I think this is Billy Wagner weekend. I could be wrong.

797
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 4: I think he's always Billy Wagner weekend.

798
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 2: Sure a fellow left hander and fromer Velvet can can

799
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Speaker 2: and everything else. On Sunday as always, Thanks for listening

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Speaker 2: and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, Taylor Swift, do you have an open invitation

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Speaker 4: to come on here and discuss the art of sourdough

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Speaker 4: bread making. I too indulge, so we'd love to have

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Speaker 4: you on. Bye.