WEBVTT - #127 - Brett Eldredge 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:08.000 All right, welcome to episode one. Here the house is 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:12.319 Brett Eldridge. It's good to see a man lucky number, 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.520 Yeah is it? Yeah? I was looking at your Instagram 0:00:16.560 --> 0:00:19.160 and I it was a shot of you leaning into 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.160 the crowd this weekend, and and what was cool about 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.520 it was and we listen, we all post pictures of crowds. 0:00:24.760 --> 0:00:27.760 Exciting to us that people that care, Like that's listening. 0:00:27.800 --> 0:00:29.240 When I post a picture and there are people like 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:31.560 at a show of mine, it's exciting to me because 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.400 people care, and I'm like, check it out, people actually care. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.880 It's to me a bit it's a bit self serving 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:39.040 because I want to I'm just like, wow, I can't 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.599 believe people care. But there's this picture you and you're 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.680 kind of singing into the crowd and everybody has their phone. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.760 Everybody has their phone up. Yeah. It had a little 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:49.800 bit of a double meaning, honestly, because it is amazing. 0:00:49.840 --> 0:00:52.040 But then I'm sitting there also looking at like, oh 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.920 my god, there's so many phones. I mean so many, 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.240 I mean, and you can see how happy everybody is. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.840 But also I mean I was just I was looking 0:01:01.840 --> 0:01:03.640 at like old pictures in the crowd of like when 0:01:03.640 --> 0:01:05.759 people didn't used to have phones, and then I mean 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:08.800 you just maybe somebody had like a little camera. But 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.520 now it's just like that picture blew me away. What 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:15.000 do you think about the phone thing? Some artists fighting 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:17.959 like they really hate it. I'm I'm in the middle. 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:22.080 You know, it just depends if they're watching and filming. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:24.520 Are there film you know what I mean? Like some 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.320 people literally watched through their screen and they're not even 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.880 really watching the show. But to be Devil's advocate on that, 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.759 if that's how they watch a show, isn't that how 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.080 they watch a show? Yeah? Now, now I'm gonna totally 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:41.200 contradict myself because we do two different things. You go 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.000 out and you play music and you play songs that 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:45.120 people knew. Now I go out and I'll give you 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:47.560 an example. I did two stand up shows this weekend. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.160 I don't let people record my show for the first 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:56.080 of it because if my material gets out, it's dead dead. 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:59.880 So there are no phones. And it's so hypocritical because 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:02.160 I go, if you're a concert, record the whole show up, 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:08.560 But for me, then I go, no bones. So I'm trying. 0:02:08.919 --> 0:02:11.280 I literally I'm kind of the same way. I see 0:02:11.280 --> 0:02:13.720 both sides like part of me is like, I think 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.000 it's awesome because then there's they're showing they're having a 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.600 good time, and then their friends might want to come 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:19.960 and have a good time and see it too. The 0:02:19.960 --> 0:02:22.760 other side is are they actually watching the show? Are 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:26.320 just mad? Or if they're really watching this show? But 0:02:26.400 --> 0:02:28.080 do they even have to watch? Can they not watch 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.280 with their ears experience? I'm like I said, I'm both 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:36.000 agree on both sides. I'm like, part of me they 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.799 are there at least, you know, I think it's it's 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.280 it is what it is at this point. Um, some 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.080 artists will be like, you can't fight it. They're like, 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:46.920 Kip hates it. Oh he hates it, he'll tell you 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:51.160 right he But it's almost like when artists would fight 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:57.040 downloads like you no, you know, or fighting streaming. Then 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:01.240 it was fighting you can either get with it or 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.480 have it leave you. And we have a picture of 0:03:03.480 --> 0:03:07.240 this up now. I mean, look at this every but 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.480 that's just the culture. What you're seeing in this picture 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.519 is the culture right now. This one girl by the way, 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.639 and we'll have a video up, but this one girl 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:15.960 has a phone up but she has the cash in 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.040 the back of her phone, like Oh yeah. I called 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.600 her out on this balling with the cash right there. 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.720 I told her that, I said, you don't drop that cash. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.680 She had like three twenties in the back of there. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.840 If I had three twenties, she's pretty young at that age, 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.600 I'd be like, I'll be living big right there. But 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.280 look at again, something else and noticed in this picture. 0:03:35.400 --> 0:03:38.600 Look at all the females, Like, if I were a dude, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:40.760 let me just speak to the dudes that are watching this. Yeah, 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.040 go to a Brett Eldredge show because there are a 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.560 lot of females and Brett Eldredge show. Yeah. Look, you 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:49.839 see there's some dudes with their way in the back. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.200 There's like we see the dudes are all three of them. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.400 They stick out like short dolls. The guy's mouth wide 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.320 open like and I was like, there's so many beautiful 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:01.920 girls here. Look at that. That's it's wild though, I mean, 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:04.760 like I said, it's it's it's I posted it because 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:07.040 I love the photo. But also it's like this is 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:08.920 literally where we are. You're right, this is this is 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:11.640 the culture of it just is what it is. And 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.520 and uh, I mean you can't really you could. I 0:04:14.560 --> 0:04:16.719 guess you can fight it. You can fight it, but 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:19.480 it's gonna be a punching the water. Eventually, the water 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.040 always wins. You can be a mountain. Okay, good for you, mountain, 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.000 but the water is eventually going to wear you down. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.719 And that's what fighting technology as an artist is. Like, 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.600 you're just fighting the water. Can you hold it back 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.800 a bit with a damn? Sure? But okay, see what 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.960 a water does over ten tho years. But yeah, that's 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.560 a pretty cool pictures. So what what is that picture from? 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:44.320 That's uh, that's an iowa uh at at a at 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.839 a festival. I remember sending you a note and I 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.800 don't you were somewhere in the Midwest, I believe, and 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:52.960 you were playing a like an amphitheater and you were 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:57.040 you were headlining, and I was watching you and I said, 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.280 you know what I was like, man, And I would say, 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:02.520 you and I are friendly. We don't not know each other, 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:04.720 but we don't hang out. I don't hang out with anybody, 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:08.000 but but but I feel like I was proud for 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:11.080 you because you were headlining a real life venue. And 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:12.760 I said, you know what I was like, dude, I 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:14.479 know any boys or anything, but a little bit of 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:16.240 me like my heart's warm for you right now because 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:20.080 I felt good for you. Well, uh, it is. It's 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.560 it's a journey. I mean, you know, just like you're 0:05:22.600 --> 0:05:24.680 not just like me. You you you fight so long 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:29.119 to go, you know, speak or play in these little 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:31.600 places for so long, and then and you're a lot 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.440 of the time, I've been opening for somebody for so long, 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.480 and and you play forty five minutes and don't getting 0:05:37.520 --> 0:05:39.320 wrong at those forty five minutes have been huge for me. 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:41.680 But I waited a long time to get to the headline. 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:44.120 Or people are gonna show up, I don't know, hopefully, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.000 and I know some are gonna show that a thing though, 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.360 because I go through it too. If I announced a tour, yeah, 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:51.279 I go, I don't know if anybody's gonna come. And 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.240 you're kind of embarrassed, and you're wondering if everybody else 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:56.479 is gonna be embarrassed if you don't sell to oh, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:59.920 I know, it's like an insecurity and yourself. You should 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.920 probably yourself credit that knowing that there's a lot of 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.039 people that love you, but at that point, you feel 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:08.159 like no one knows the hell you are at that point, So, uh, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:11.080 it is a scary feeling and then you know, then 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:13.920 you end up showing up in these people know every 0:06:13.960 --> 0:06:17.000 song and they're so passionate and and it's not just 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.960 forty five minutes, it's an hour and twenty or hour 0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:24.880 and thirty of even the even the album cuts, even 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:27.200 the ones that you know no one ever hears live, 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:28.719 and you get to play and you can tell those stories, 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.479 and that's that's pretty special. You know, talk to me 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.840 for a second, because a lot of artists, especially when 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:36.760 you play a big place and you have the middle 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.440 to late slot, you'll put these things in your ears 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:44.039 whatever you're called monitor mirrors, you know, so you know 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:47.040 when I use them too, But I'm not real. You know, 0:06:47.080 --> 0:06:49.560 when when my band plays, we're not real. You're real. 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.280 You're entertaining though, okay, but listen, we're not real. You're real. 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:56.440 You're a real band. Really, But so that pretty much 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:00.120 seals off the sound, right. So when you have when 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.760 you have them both in what can you hear? Actually, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:06.479 it is one of my least favorite things about playing 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:10.200 live and great things because you you you don't blow 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.560 your voice out as much because you're not pushing as hard. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.160 Well I mean, but there's also artists Blake still sings 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:21.320 with just with wedges. Blake doesn't use yours, Is that right? Yeah? 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.640 I didn't know that he's still uses wedges, and I 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:25.080 was like, how do you do that? I kind of 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:28.200 love those days because you cranked it the wedges and everything, 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:31.240 and he hasn't like side fills and as he walks 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.360 in the thrust, he's got to remember where Sometimes. I 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:34.960 think that's awesome because you can hear the crowd. And 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:37.120 he says that, Man, I just tried the years before 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:38.800 and I took him out because I just couldn't do it. 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.080 I used to do the one year and that's terrible 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.240 for your in. And what I started to do is 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.400 I had him. I haven't put a crowd mics in 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:49.240 as long as you have no fans singing into the 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:52.200 crowd mics. I've been I'll be like singing a note 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.880 and all of a sudden. Man, Also, I just totally 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:56.640 lost the key that I was in because some fans 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.960 slinging away up or something into the mic and then 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.120 don't even really realize it. So that's the way you 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:03.880 you can compat and you can also put little holes 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:05.800 in them. Um, I can't win with what they're called, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:07.680 and that will bring in some of it, but it 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.520 is it is a tough battle because you can be 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.560 in a really crazy loud crowd and not even realize 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.520 how loud there because you got those ears in. I'm 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.720 playing a little ignorant because I like to hear your 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.400 perspective of it. But for me, it run my ears 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:20.880 a bit to wear one ear because we were playing, 0:08:21.760 --> 0:08:23.920 you know, three nights a week sometimes and there'll be 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:25.960 two three thousand people in our show, so I wanted 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:28.040 to hear the crowd. So I, okay, I'm gonna take 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:29.320 one year, and well then I started to have some 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.800 sort of odd balance issue where one year was really 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.880 feeling it, one wasn't. And that's where all your balance 0:08:34.960 --> 0:08:37.559 is was vertigo comes from. So I'll get on the 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:38.840 bus and I would be like, I feel like I 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.360 was csick at times. So I go, okay, I'm done 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:43.280 with this. So I put both ears in and we 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:46.120 put mikes in the crowd. But here's the problem, because I, again, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:47.760 I don't have the skill set that you have where 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.400 I'm seeing, I can seeing in a rhythm that kind 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:53.200 of thing. Um, the crowd is about probably a quarter 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.520 of a second delay coming through, so I would start 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.880 to hear them and it would totally bess me. And 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:02.280 my point with this question is sometimes because I would 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:03.719 be like, yeah, I don't know if the crowd is 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:05.920 yelling back her eyes, I just have to assume they are. 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.040 I'm like, let me, Harry, they certainly have to be screaming, 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.040 and they could all just be doing this with their 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.560 mouth and actually making no noise, and I would feel 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.960 like they were cheering because I really can't hear them 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.440 because the seal them all. It's a it is a 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.760 real it's a real thing that I think. I guess, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.160 I guess what I always have to think of the 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:26.360 fans out there have no idea that that's going on here. 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:31.040 So you just, I mean, definitely the most insecure times 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.760 when were you're on stage and you're hoping that everybody's 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:35.160 gonna be going crazy and you don't you don't know what. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:37.760 Every crowd is different. Every crowd might be a little 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:41.640 harder to work. Even you know, the biggest stars in 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:43.559 the world, they're they're gonna notice some crowds that aren't 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.079 as crazy as others, but you know that they're that 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:48.800 you know you're up there for a reason, and you 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.560 gotta scream it out, but it is. It is a 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.520 weird feeling. Sometimes you're like and and and it's It's 0:09:54.520 --> 0:09:56.360 been one of my biggest struggles as an artist with 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.679 with the ears and I and as you know, you 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.240 watch every award show, you watch every TV thing, you 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:03.320 see somebody pulling ear out, you put one back there 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.640 and pull the other one out because it is you 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.559 want to be there, and that's what that is. When, 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.560 which is my point of this, whenever you see someone 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.840 pulling ear out, it's because they want to feel and 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:17.600 hear what's actually happening in the room. Maddie Poppy, who 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.679 won American Idol this season, because I was on that 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:23.120 show a bit and so we became friends that she wanted. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:24.960 I was talking to her about wearing ears for the 0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.079 first time because a lot of brand new to them, 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:29.960 and I said, hey, you're gonna put these ears and 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:32.120 it's gonna seal you off and it's gonna feel so 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.880 weird at first. And she's like, yeah, what's so what happened? 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.520 And said, Well, you're gonna hear everything perfectly, all all 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.200 the instruments, and you're gonna get to mix it how 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.720 you want, you want more bass when we're drums. All 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.800 of that, I said, but you're also gonna hear all 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.240 the flaws and you're gonna think something's really going wrong 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.160 whenever the crowd has no idea because they're getting really 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:54.400 the macro they're getting from Afar and they're taking it 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.640 all in all together. You're gonna hear all the little 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.520 bit puzzle pieces together your if your voice is a 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:00.400 little tired, you're gonna hear that, and you're gonna you're 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:03.040 gonna start thinking about that more. They're not gonna hear 0:11:03.080 --> 0:11:05.480 that near as much, and then you start I used 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.960 to have a large problem with that. Have you do 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:11.040 you feel like as you've gotten more success and we'll 0:11:11.120 --> 0:11:14.920 use success relative term, but you have six six, seven 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.760 and one six months like that? Do you feel like 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.000 the more successful that you've become, the better you're getting 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:26.480 just simply because of confidence? Oh? Yeah, yes and no. 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:31.400 Here's a couple of reasons. Um. I think one. I 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.120 think that that the headline tour is big for me 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:38.520 because you know, when you don't feel like you're you know, 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:40.880 I mean, like I said, I'll never put down my 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:43.240 opening slots, but when you never when you always feel 0:11:43.280 --> 0:11:46.120 like it's not your fans, or at least all your fans. 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.600 You want to win them all over, but you have 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.559 a little bit of I gotta always prove something. I 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:53.240 always prove something. When you get your fans out there, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.600 you feel like you can really a hundred percent be 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:57.760 you even more and you get more in a comfort spot, 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.880 and so that feels awesome. Um. I've definitely gained more confidence. 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.040 I've I've I've you know, to the years. I mean, 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.440 I'm I'm kind of introverted, a lot of people don't 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:09.920 know that, but in ways I am. Um, but when 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.040 I go up on stage, I've if I can get 0:12:12.040 --> 0:12:16.440 that energy, it' it's it's it's, it's it's fuel for me. 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:21.280 I've had times where I have no voice, um, and 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:23.600 I think there's no I'm gonna make it, and I 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.480 the whole time before the show, I'm warming up and 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.800 it's cracking. It's you know, when you start thinking about 0:12:28.800 --> 0:12:30.560 that more and more, and then you hear the crowd 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:32.920 and there's something about it. If you got your crowd 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:36.520 out there that can pull you through. Every time you 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:39.080 make it. Somehow it might not always sound the best, 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:42.320 but you make it. I think that uh, well, the 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.680 times I've ever ever struggled with the most or when 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:46.880 I can't reach out and touch the crowd, like with 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:52.000 the white chairs at festivals or whatever, which is sometimes tough. Um. 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:54.720 And what that means is it's some festivals to p 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:58.520 there'll be some white chairs, but the vps are so 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:00.520 cool they don't want get there till late in the night, 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.520 so they're not always there. So they're not always there. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:06.600 So you're the first fifty yards, it's splitter, splatter people 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.440 sitting in chairs or just white chairs because there might 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.640 be twenty people behind those chairs. But then and so 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.440 I used to really struggle with that, and it's still 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:15.960 gonna be weird. I mean, even even if you're the headliners, 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:19.000 sometimes they're not all there or whatever, and so that's 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:22.000 that's still a little strange. But I think definitely confidence 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.079 is key, even in your voice, because if you feel 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:30.079 a little bit uncomfident before you hit that stage, yo, 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.440 you might you might put over comments sate on your 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.040 voice and push harder in your worn out before you 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.640 even get there. It's funny we were talking about kid 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:40.880 with the phones and I've kip and I have a 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:45.840 friendship that has grown over first fighting spot and then like, hey, 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.960 we're both weird, introverted people, let's probably be on the 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:53.000 same team. We had. We had the same team talk 0:13:53.080 --> 0:13:56.640 at a coffee shop one morning. Our relationship has gotten 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.880 actually really good since then. So I say this as 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.040 a friend. But Kip and I were sitting and I 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.280 think I do Kip does, I don't know. Probably you 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.760 because you're an artist at heart. We have huge insecurity issues, 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.640 like we may be these larger than life characters on 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.200 stage behind the microphone, but really it all comes down 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.440 to we're searching for some kind of love. Yeah, we're 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.679 in some place searching for some kind of love. And 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:19.200 Kept and I were talking about watching a crowd and 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:20.720 for me, if I'm doing stand up, I can't look 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.680 at faces because if I see someone's face and they're 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.560 not laughing, yeah, I go oh, I must be bombing. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.520 So I just look at four heads. I can't look 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:30.360 at face, and kipt will go oh, I'll see someone 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:32.360 not having a good time, and it'll throw me. It 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.280 will completely throw me from doing a show. Do you 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:37.640 will you look down and see people not feeling it, 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.240 and do you let that affect you. Oh yeah, I've 0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:42.400 had times where I really affected me. That my my 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:45.480 thing that I've you know, you have certain fans that 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.520 are almost always have fans that I know we're gonna 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.600 be repeat fans, like for different shows, and if I 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:56.160 know they're there, and if I'm feeling like if I 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:57.880 see some people that I don't know if they're really 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:01.400 totally into it kind of messes me up. I I 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.840 because I struggle with that for a while. Then I 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:07.080 would start looking at my fans that are my die 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:08.800 hard fans that are always there for me, and I 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:11.480 see them singing the words and like, oh man, they 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:14.280 care the care and so I tried it. That's how 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.200 I've tried to figure out how to shift it, and 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.680 that's helped me. But yeah, that's that is a that's 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:21.760 a weird feeling because you're giving everything of yourself and 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.440 you know and somebody you want every single person to 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:29.760 feel as passionate about it as you are. And the 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:32.000 truth is this, it is never gonna be No, there's 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.840 never been an artist I can do that. And I 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.640 do feel it's a bit unfair for us as people. 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.840 If I want a stage performing to judge people based 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:43.800 on just their outward reactions. Because if I'm comparing myself 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:45.520 or yourself, we're watching a movie, and let's they were 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.440 watching the same movie. We may react absolutely different to 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.920 watch an old school I may be laughing out loud, 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.040 you may be enjoying it the same amount, but laughing 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.840 in a different way inside. But that doesn't mean somebody's 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:58.040 not enjoying it as much as the other person. But 0:15:58.040 --> 0:16:00.360 when we step away were it's so easy for us. 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.520 You can't disconnect from that in a show. But we 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.840 just feel like, oh, I haven't thought about that, and 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:08.520 that's that's really good to talk about that because it's 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.200 a it's the hardest thing to explain to anybody, and 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:13.600 there's so many people that get And I mean, I've 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.040 I've never really talked about this, but I used to 0:16:16.120 --> 0:16:20.920 get nervous about I used to be I'm a I've 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:25.000 born a warrior, like worried anxiety all that and I 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.440 and so I used to I was never afraid to 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:30.680 go on stage. I'm not like I'd love to perform. 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.440 I'm actually the most comfortable during that a lot of time. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.800 But before it, I was like if I was worn out, 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:37.480 I'm a terrible sleep. I would used to be a 0:16:37.520 --> 0:16:39.640 real bad sleeping and all this stuff, and so I 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.080 had this little period where I was not sleeping much, 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.160 and then I would I'll get to the point where 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:47.200 I's about to go on stage and I would get 0:16:47.200 --> 0:16:48.920 short of breath. I thought I was gonna pass out. 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.640 I have because I was thought, Okay, I'm gonna I'm 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:54.480 gonna fail in front all these people. I'm gonna pass 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.840 out or something, which you know, you're not gonna dive 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.600 from passing out in front everybody, and I'm probably not 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.240 gonna pass out, but I was telling my off that. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.800 So it's learned that. So I had all these these 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.800 things and all these things because you're about to go 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.280 give all yourself and you don't want to see yourself fail. 0:17:08.040 --> 0:17:11.119 And I don't have that anymore. Really, I mean, you 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.600 still have some days you're like, God, I'm so tired 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:16.480 of because you know, sometimes you're headlining at festival or 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:18.920 show at eleven o'clock at night, or wake up at 0:17:19.040 --> 0:17:20.920 seven o'clock, so you have the whole day to think 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:23.960 about a show, and I've had to try to figure 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.679 out ways to keep your mind busy. You're here for 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:28.679 a reason, You're you're playing this show because people are 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.600 coming here to love you. But it is it's a 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:34.760 complete mind game as performer, he gives. You know, it's 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.600 a major sacrifice throughout that all day to be up 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:39.199 there for an hour and a half and you and 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.600 you have to get your mind right to that that 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:45.000 point of the show. You know, athlete even you know, 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:49.919 it's a lot of downtime ninety minutes to perform, and 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.399 it all is inside that ninety minutes. And then if 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.000 you don't, you got a lot of game tape to 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.560 watch the next time, and you're gonna think about it. 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:58.800 You can't not think about it, you know. Let me 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:01.760 talking about LifeLock for just one second. 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