Speaker 1: The volume.
Speaker 2: Championships.
Speaker 1: That should always be the expectation. All right, go ahead,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Richard Sherman Podcast. It's been a
Speaker 1: crazy week. The Seattle Seahawks took the game to overtime
Speaker 1: after a really frustrating second half. Some interceptions, had a
Speaker 1: chance and just could not capitalize. Fourth and one that
Speaker 1: the La Rams gotta stop a much need to stop.
Speaker 1: Stafford drove right down the field, scoring a touchdown. I mean,
Speaker 1: this week was full of upsets, but this one, Metchell,
Speaker 1: this one hurts.
Speaker 2: I gotta believe it did, Richard. I mean, this game,
Speaker 2: it looked like the Seattle Seahawks had it, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Rams came out. The Rams are a
Speaker 2: good team. Let's start there. They're a very good team.
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford at the helm, and they're starting to get
Speaker 2: healthy again. But I thought Seattle they needed this game more.
Speaker 2: I think the question starts it's a simple question. Why
Speaker 2: do you not take the points in overtime? Richard? That
Speaker 2: was a backbreaking decision on fourth and short. They come
Speaker 2: up short and then the Rams go down and inevitably
Speaker 2: score the game winning touchdown. Where's your head at Richard?
Speaker 2: With this decision to not take the points in overtime.
Speaker 1: Because you get beat. Taking three points in a game
Speaker 1: where you've got Matthew Stafford on the other side, you
Speaker 1: get beat. So I support the decision to go for
Speaker 1: it on fourth and one because you got one yard
Speaker 1: to go, you had what three opportunities to get it.
Speaker 1: I do not. You just watched your old line get decimated,
Speaker 1: get dominated multiple plays in a row, Kennith Walker the
Speaker 1: third getting stopped. So come up with a better play
Speaker 1: goal in a situation. That's the only thing that frustrated me.
Speaker 1: It's like, Hey, you're just gonna keep running your head
Speaker 1: into a wall and assume he's gonna pop. How about
Speaker 1: you either QB sneak it and trust your center and
Speaker 1: trust everybody to push Geno over the pile, or you
Speaker 1: roll them out, give him a run pass option another opportunity.
Speaker 1: But I'm with the go for it on that play.
Speaker 1: You got to go for the win in that situation
Speaker 1: your team needs and you're at home. You got the momentum,
Speaker 1: you go for the win, and they just did not
Speaker 1: get it done. They did not execute well enough. The
Speaker 1: play call was not good enough. So that's just something
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to learn from. But Geno Smith had
Speaker 1: a rough day. He had a rough day, got beat up,
Speaker 1: you know, another seven sack day. He did throw for
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty three yards three touchdowns, but two
Speaker 1: back to back. I mean one of them was a pick.
Speaker 1: Six interceptions in the red zone. They were one for
Speaker 1: four in the red zone. That is tough to win
Speaker 1: ball games when you're one for four in the red zone,
Speaker 1: especially division games. You got to execute. You got stopped.
Speaker 1: You were two for two on fourth downs before that
Speaker 1: fourth and one stop. You gotta find a way to
Speaker 1: get that done. You gotta find a way to get
Speaker 1: a yard. The defense, they got the turnover Tarik wool
Speaker 1: and got the interception, but they dropped another interception and
Speaker 1: they never got to Matthew Stafford. They had no sacks
Speaker 1: on the day. That's unacceptable. You cannot go into this game.
Speaker 1: This Rams offensive line is in world beaters. They're not
Speaker 1: the best offensive line in football. Arguably, You've gone against
Speaker 1: several offensive lines that would be considered better than the
Speaker 1: one that you just faced, and you've gotten much more
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback to not be able to get
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford on the ground. And not that there weren't opportunities.
Speaker 1: There were times they came. Scott Freed, they got to him.
Speaker 1: But Matthew Stafford is in the pocket, he's ducking under arms,
Speaker 1: he's slipping away, he's put throwing the ball away. He's
Speaker 1: not allowing the people get to him. But again, you
Speaker 1: got to give the special teams for the Seattle Seahawks credit.
Speaker 1: They had a block punt, but you have to again
Speaker 1: be able to capitalize on these things and get points.
Speaker 1: They just weren't able to do it. And in overtime
Speaker 1: you got to play to Wooland where he had a
Speaker 1: chance to intercept the football on to DeMarcus Robinson coming
Speaker 1: across the Was it Tramarcus Robinson or was it I
Speaker 1: think it was just and coming across on an over route.
Speaker 1: But he just waits for the ball instead of just
Speaker 1: taking a step forward or two and and and running
Speaker 1: into the past. You know in this in this league,
Speaker 1: you can't wait for anything. You wait for anything, hungry
Speaker 1: dogs will come take the football. And that's what happened. Uh,
Speaker 1: And then again Stafford pushes the ball down the field
Speaker 1: to win the game. No fear, no, no, that's why
Speaker 1: you don't kick the field goal, because what is the
Speaker 1: field goal gonna do for you? Right there? They're gonna
Speaker 1: go for the juggular. They didn't need a touchdown right there.
Speaker 1: They could have won with the field goal. But you're
Speaker 1: playing against Matthew Stafford. If they get the look that
Speaker 1: they they want, if they get the covers they're looking for,
Speaker 1: they're gonna push the ball down the field. He's shown
Speaker 1: that time and time again, and he showed it this time.
Speaker 1: Great pass by him, great catch by DeMarcus Robinson, one
Speaker 1: hand catch. He pushed off on Tarik Wooland. But they
Speaker 1: never call that in the National Football League. I have
Speaker 1: yet to see them call a receiver pushing off uh
Speaker 1: And for the game, and that's the game. That's the
Speaker 1: ball game. You know. The Seahawks gotta gotta buy this
Speaker 1: week to to sit and think about it and look
Speaker 1: at the film and see what they're gonna change and
Speaker 1: what they're gonna adjust. But the offensive line continues to
Speaker 1: be an issue, and it's going to continue to be
Speaker 1: an issue until something gets fixed. And it's really the
Speaker 1: interior offensive line. But what do you do? You don't
Speaker 1: there aren't any easy answers or quick solutions. So I
Speaker 1: don't know where you go from here.
Speaker 2: Well, that's just a question. I mean, where do you
Speaker 2: go from here? This division is up for grabs. I
Speaker 2: mean it's anyone's game right now. I mean the Rams
Speaker 2: climb to five hundred. I mean Seattle, you know, they
Speaker 2: were they were looking good to start this season off, Richard,
Speaker 2: and now they're they're in the last place of the division.
Speaker 2: And I mean you see the Arizona Cardinals beat the
Speaker 2: Bears at home. You know, obviously the forty nine ers
Speaker 2: are getting healthier. What is it gonna take for Seattle
Speaker 2: to gain ground and restake their claim of this division?
Speaker 2: Because really, Richard, it is up for grabs still, despite
Speaker 2: this loss.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to put They're gonna have put more
Speaker 1: pressure on a quarterback. You know, they have a really
Speaker 1: talented defense and defensive line, and they got to get
Speaker 1: home and they got to finish the job. You know,
Speaker 1: they're getting home, Leonard Williams getting home. You could see
Speaker 1: all the talent they have on that defensive line. Guys
Speaker 1: doing a great job. Jaron Reid. You know, they're putting
Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback, but they're not getting home and
Speaker 1: finishing the job. And that's that's costing a lot of plays.
Speaker 1: They gotta protect the quarterback. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how many more times we could say we can get
Speaker 1: on here every single week and be like, hey, protect quarterback,
Speaker 1: Protect quarterback. I don't know if anybody's getting hit or
Speaker 1: sack more than Geno Smith right now. And Gino you know,
Speaker 1: there are times he could have made better decisions with
Speaker 1: the football. He's trying to trying to make things happen,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the game he had some
Speaker 1: incredible throws to JSN. He did used to count really
Speaker 1: well throughout this game. He made sure that you know,
Speaker 1: he capitalized on the free plays. A touchdown to Tyler
Speaker 1: Lockett JSN, I mean on a fourth and five, a
Speaker 1: dime of a pass to really get them into overtime,
Speaker 1: and a touchdown pass at the end to push the
Speaker 1: game to ot a big stop by the defense. But again,
Speaker 1: those those not executing in the red zone. That's what
Speaker 1: they're doing them. In a game like this, you look
Speaker 1: back and those are the plays where you're like, man,
Speaker 1: that's points. Whether it's three or six or seven, you
Speaker 1: got to get.
Speaker 2: Them, no question about it. I mean, the weapons, the
Speaker 2: offensive weapons, are in house in Seattle, JSN Jackson Smith
Speaker 2: and jig Ball proved himself he is he's a playmaker
Speaker 2: in this league. I mean we've talked about it for
Speaker 2: the last two years. I mean today was his day.
Speaker 2: I mean he showed himself with the out DK Metcalf
Speaker 2: on the field with seven catches for oneint eighty and
Speaker 2: two touchdowns. This team has offensive playmakers. The question is
Speaker 2: can they avoid the big mistakes. I mean throwing the
Speaker 2: one hundred and three yard interception return for a touchdown
Speaker 2: to Cameron Kitchens. I mean, that's that is a backbreaker
Speaker 2: for this team because Seattle had this game in hand.
Speaker 2: And when you give Matthew Stafford opportunities. I've seen it, Richard.
Speaker 2: I lived it here in Detroit. When you give this
Speaker 2: man opportunities, it's not going to work out for you,
Speaker 2: and it worked in his favor today. The LA Rams
Speaker 2: they're getting healthy. They look very good. If they can
Speaker 2: get pooking, Nakula backing up and cooking, I mean, this
Speaker 2: is a team that could easily compete for this division.
Speaker 2: What do you think of the Rams going for Richard?
Speaker 2: Because I know you have a stake in the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers I know you want to see the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers get healthy, but it's got to cause some
Speaker 2: a little element of concern for you seeing the Rams
Speaker 2: also getting healthy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean not for me particularly, but it is
Speaker 1: for the division because you know, as they get healthy.
Speaker 1: I mean a few weeks ago, you thought it was
Speaker 1: a fire sale. You know, you hear about Pooking Akoua
Speaker 1: being available, Cooper Cup being available, all these guys, and
Speaker 1: they pretty much did this a lot of the times
Speaker 1: without hookin Nakula, who went out, who got ejected from
Speaker 1: the game for throwing a punch. I mean, this league
Speaker 1: is just getting ridiculously soft in so many different ways,
Speaker 1: and it's just laughable what this game has become. I mean,
Speaker 1: you saw it in your Detroit Lions game. They eject
Speaker 1: Brian Branch for a to helmet hit when he's trying
Speaker 1: to dislodge the football from the player. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what this game was built on. It. I know, everybody's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we're evolving, and we're all all evolution isn't
Speaker 1: a great thing, and that's a bad part of the
Speaker 1: game that should be reviewed. If you're gonna give the
Speaker 1: fifteen yard penalty give the fifteen yard penalty. Cool, But
Speaker 1: to eject the guy from the game, thinking, oh man,
Speaker 1: he went too high. He has literally a millisecond to decide,
Speaker 1: to make his decision and strike, and when he does that,
Speaker 1: a receiver can move up and down and around and
Speaker 1: left and right, and you just have to aim for
Speaker 1: where you think he's gonna be. And that's what he did.
Speaker 1: I thought the hit was fine, maybe a little high.
Speaker 1: If it's high, you flag him. But to kick him
Speaker 1: out of the game and really can affect. He's one
Speaker 1: of your big time playmakers amongst the league leaders and interceptions,
Speaker 1: and you kick him out of a ball game early
Speaker 1: in a divisional game, you know you could if the
Speaker 1: Lions lose that game, you could obviously point to that
Speaker 1: being a huge factor.
Speaker 2: No question about it. Richard, you speak for me. I
Speaker 2: think you speak for the vast majority of football fans.
Speaker 2: This game it's gotten ridiculous. For defensive players, How do
Speaker 2: you even think about hitting somebody? You know, the roller
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Speaker 2: I mean, this is a huge game in Green Bay,
Speaker 2: right the elements have played Detroit has not left are
Speaker 2: artificial turf environment all season. Everyone's talking about the rain
Speaker 2: and Lambeau. Everyone's talking about the playing surface in Lambeau,
Speaker 2: the cleats being shifted up. I mean, Dan Campbell said it,
Speaker 2: what's the most important factor of this game? The shoes
Speaker 2: you wear? And Detroit came out and Richard, I'm a detroitter.
Speaker 2: I'm fired up. You're gonna have to talk me off
Speaker 2: this pedestal that I'm on. When I look at the
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, I see a super Bowl team and maybe
Speaker 2: I'm nuts. But when you go on the road in
Speaker 2: your division and we've talked about this the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks. These divisional games are so crucial, right, They're
Speaker 2: so crucial that they they make or break teams. And
Speaker 2: Detroit just was womping on Green Bay twenty what was it,
Speaker 2: twenty four to three at half. I know they didn't
Speaker 2: score after the first half, But Richard, I gotta know, like,
Speaker 2: where's your head at with the Detroit Lions team? Because
Speaker 2: I could talk and talk and talk and talk forever
Speaker 2: about how power I feel about this Lion's team. Where's
Speaker 2: your head at?
Speaker 1: I think they're an incredible team. I think they're one
Speaker 1: of the best teams, obviously the best team in the NFC.
Speaker 1: I just I have questions about, you know, long term
Speaker 1: and defensive. I think they have to make a move
Speaker 1: for a pass Russer. I've heard they're in the market for,
Speaker 1: you know, Zadarius Smith and a number of other guys
Speaker 1: who could really help. Now you get one of those guys,
Speaker 1: you know, to help put some more pressure on these quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: then I'm all on board, which eventual because that's the
Speaker 1: thing when you get into the playoffs, you get into
Speaker 1: these type all games. Who can get to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: who can get to the quarterback successfully. You have a
Speaker 1: really talented secondary, but nobody can cover forever. So if
Speaker 1: guys get more time, you start to find holes and zones,
Speaker 1: you start to find holes. But right now they're doing
Speaker 1: a phenomenal job. They held Jordan Love to two hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy three yards twenty three of thirty nine. He
Speaker 1: was he got some garbage time yards in there, so
Speaker 1: we're not going to count all that. Josh Jacobs was
Speaker 1: ever able to have some success on the ground thirteen
Speaker 1: carries for ninety five yards. But I thought Kirby Joseph's
Speaker 1: interception was an incredible play. I mean, to just be
Speaker 1: in the right place at the right time, to to
Speaker 1: to take your time, to not overrush, to have an
Speaker 1: awareness of where you are. We just talked about what
Speaker 1: they did to Brian Branch, which was a ridiculous, ridiculous
Speaker 1: abuse of power in the National Football League to kick
Speaker 1: a player out in the game for nothing, egregious nothing.
Speaker 1: He didn't do it on purpose, he didn't do anything
Speaker 1: that you would you would say, oh man, that was
Speaker 1: a dirty play. It was a football play, and if
Speaker 1: it's a football player, I don't I don't like football
Speaker 1: players getting ejected for it. And that's that's something that
Speaker 1: that has to be reviewed from New York or talked
Speaker 1: about because if you do that in a playoff game
Speaker 1: to an All Pro or Pro Bowl player, you know
Speaker 1: who can have a drastic effect on the game. It's
Speaker 1: too much gambling going on. It's too many, too much
Speaker 1: at stake in these ball games where people would start
Speaker 1: to say, hey man, they're starting to really they're starting
Speaker 1: to cheat, they're starting to cheat. I mean defense, you
Speaker 1: always feel like you getting cheated, but I mean that
Speaker 1: kind of play, you make it possible. So you're saying, hey,
Speaker 1: just let the guys catch the ball, because if they
Speaker 1: start taking guy's legs out and they start landing on
Speaker 1: their heads and breaking their necks and things like that,
Speaker 1: then it's going to be a whole different issue. So
Speaker 1: they're trying to hit guys in the chest, and you
Speaker 1: saw Kobe Bryant had a great play against the Rams
Speaker 1: where you hit the guy right in the chest, but
Speaker 1: his helmet hit the other guy's helmet a little bit.
Speaker 1: But if you find a way for a guy to
Speaker 1: lead his body without his head, then I'd be all ears.
Speaker 1: But I told when I sent the competition to meet
Speaker 1: in mini meetings, and they had these conversations. I said, hey,
Speaker 1: I want all you guys who are making these rules,
Speaker 1: I want you to walk towards the wall, and I
Speaker 1: want you to walk towards it, and I want you
Speaker 1: to do it with your head back. And they couldn't
Speaker 1: do it, Mitchell. They were stumbling, they were falling. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: now lean your head forward and walk wherever you want,
Speaker 1: what direction you want to go in, And they realized, hey,
Speaker 1: you're led by your head. No matter to run full speed,
Speaker 1: your head's going to be at the forefront. So if
Speaker 1: you're talking about striking somebody, you put a foot in
Speaker 1: the ground, you put your shoulder out front. But I'm
Speaker 1: leaning my shoulder and my head's gonna look at this Mitchell. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you measure it. My head, my shoulder, it's gonna hit
Speaker 1: the jam there at the same time. All my head's
Speaker 1: gonna go first. So if you some of the things
Speaker 1: people say, like oh, he's leading with his head, like
Speaker 1: get the head out the game. You can't unless you
Speaker 1: tell these guys to stop leading their body. And that's
Speaker 1: that's the part of the game I hate. But this
Speaker 1: Lion's team looks phenomenal. Uh. Their culture, their coaching looks good.
Speaker 1: Even when they when they face some adversity, they're overcoming
Speaker 1: it really quickly. They got a tough game against the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans next week. We trust just on TNF it's
Speaker 1: in Houston. I think they're a frustrated team. They're they're
Speaker 1: beat up at the receiver position. They're supposed to be
Speaker 1: getting Nico Collins back off the hamstring injury. So I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to that game. But right now, there are
Speaker 1: very few teams that can consider themselves better than the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions.
Speaker 2: Right now, there's and I appreciate you saying that, Richard.
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about Jared Goff before he
Speaker 2: turned the page on this Detroit Lion team, because his
Speaker 2: last two games on paper have looked underwhelming. I mean,
Speaker 2: what do you have eighty three passing yards in a
Speaker 2: fifty two to ten or fifty to fourteen win against Titans.
Speaker 2: Now one hundred and forty five passing yards against these
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. But then you look at the fact
Speaker 2: that this guy, his completion percentage is off the charts. Richard,
Speaker 2: where do you put him? I mean, I know Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson's been having a hell of a year, But is
Speaker 2: he a realistic MVP candidate right now? The way he's
Speaker 2: playing football for this Detroit Lion football team.
Speaker 1: If you're just looking at the efficiency numbers metro, you've
Speaker 1: got to give him at least a fair look because
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. I mean, he's breaking records left and right,
Speaker 1: he's been so efficient, not turning the ball over at
Speaker 1: a high rate. But then you start to look at
Speaker 1: the overall numbers and he's just not thrown for very
Speaker 1: many yards. I think he's fourteenth right now. In yards,
Speaker 1: he's ninth, and touchdowns and those numbers for an MVP
Speaker 1: just aren't going to get it done. And you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about this last year when we were talking
Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, where his numbers stacked up in the
Speaker 1: National Football League, and you know, I wasn't I wasn't
Speaker 1: feeling it. But this year it's totally different. He looks
Speaker 1: like his twenty nineteen MVP season. So if he's having
Speaker 1: a year like that, Josh Allen's also having a phenomenal
Speaker 1: year where he's throwing for two thousand yards and he's
Speaker 1: got seventeen touchdowns, only two interceptions, both coming in the
Speaker 1: last two weeks. They're winning ball games. They're seven and
Speaker 1: two right now. And so Lamar Jackson's number one in
Speaker 1: the league in passing yards. I think he's number one.
Speaker 1: Are He's second in the league in passing yards, number
Speaker 1: one in QBR, second in touchdown passes with twenty only
Speaker 1: two interceptions. Those are MVP numbers. I mean, he almost
Speaker 1: has as many touchdown passes right now, nine games into
Speaker 1: the season as he did over sixteen games last year.
Speaker 1: And that's what when I was saying that last year,
Speaker 1: the oh, you're a hater, You're a hater. I'm not
Speaker 1: no hater. I just know what MVP numbers look like,
Speaker 1: and he has them. These are MVP numbers. He has
Speaker 1: twenty touchdown passes nine games into the season. He had
Speaker 1: twenty four last year the whole season. And that's this.
Speaker 1: He's running away with MVP. And has Jared Golf played
Speaker 1: an amazing and winning football and done a phenomenal job,
Speaker 1: no question about it. But he's gonna have to throw
Speaker 1: for more touchdowns. He's gonna have to throw for more
Speaker 1: yards if he wants to get in this conversation now,
Speaker 1: if he's holding a Trophy at the end. I don't
Speaker 1: think he cares, Mitchell, But if we're talking about the
Speaker 1: MVP conversation, you've got to get in some more numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm with you. And let's talk about Baltimore a little bit,
Speaker 2: because this was that measuring stick game I think for
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos and they go on the road into
Speaker 2: Baltimore and they get shell ACKed. I don't know if
Speaker 2: any other word's gonna exemplify their showing losing by thirty
Speaker 2: one points on the road and Baltimore. I mean, for them,
Speaker 2: this goes to show they're a team, they're a force
Speaker 2: to be reckoned with us and in this AFC, and
Speaker 2: I know their kryptonite is the Kansas City Chiefs. I
Speaker 2: know everyone's kryptonite in the AFC is Patrick Mahomes. You know,
Speaker 2: Richard Baltimore looks down. I'm good. I mean, what's the
Speaker 2: ceiling for this team? Can they get past Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: in this Kansas City Chiefs team? Do you believe in
Speaker 2: this Baltimore Ravens team right now?
Speaker 1: What I believe? And they got two MVP candidates because
Speaker 1: you look at what Derrick Henry's done. He's got you know,
Speaker 1: third running back in league history with a thousand yards
Speaker 1: and ten touchdowns through nine games and the football season.
Speaker 1: The last two won the MVP. It was Sean Alexander
Speaker 1: and Terrell Davis. And you look at Lamar Jackson. I
Speaker 1: just talked about him. He had his fourth his fourth
Speaker 1: game with a perfect passer rating, most of any player
Speaker 1: with fifteen plus attempts. He's playing out of his mind
Speaker 1: right now. I mean he's playing elite. He's pushing the
Speaker 1: ball down the field. We talked about his passing numbers.
Speaker 1: He's running the ball really well. I think he has
Speaker 1: five hundred and five rush yards as well to go
Speaker 1: along with his twenty three hundred or so passing yards.
Speaker 1: And he's really efficient. Mit, he's not turning the ball
Speaker 1: over at all. He's putting his team in phenomen no positions.
Speaker 1: They're scoring a ton of points every single week. They
Speaker 1: look incredibly formidable. But then you look up and you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: they lost to the Browns and the Raiders, Like how why? Why?
Speaker 1: You can understand the Kansas City Chiefs loss this first
Speaker 1: game of the season, A lot of chaos is the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champions. But then you look at at the
Speaker 1: Browns and the Raiders. You're like, hey, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, it leaves It leaves a lot for the
Speaker 1: imagination because now I need to see you against your division.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I need. I still need. There
Speaker 1: are still things I need to see from this team
Speaker 1: because of those losses. Are they a great team? Has
Speaker 1: a defense played incredibly yes, sir, yes, sir to hold
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos to ten points to score forty one
Speaker 1: points on this defense that has been amongst the league leaders.
Speaker 1: Vans Joseph has had these boys hunting all season, playing
Speaker 1: really really high level defensive football. Bo Knicks has had
Speaker 1: really good games over the past three or four ball games.
Speaker 1: And and in this game, I mean he was held
Speaker 1: to nineteen of thirty three to two hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: three yards. He had the reception touchdown on the Philly
Speaker 1: special play. But he's been feeding Courtland Sutton, who had
Speaker 1: another one hundred yard game, but they held him in check,
Speaker 1: forced them to throw an interception. They I mean, they
Speaker 1: had their way with that defense trying to play man coverage.
Speaker 1: They could not stop Zay Flowers five catches for one
Speaker 1: twenty seven and two tous. This team looks to be
Speaker 1: a very formidable team, but those concerning head scratching losses
Speaker 1: are the reason I can't put them up, you know,
Speaker 1: above three in my power rankings, because you're losing the
Speaker 1: teams who just aren't playing great football right now. You know,
Speaker 1: you lost to Gardner Minshew and you lost to Jamis
Speaker 1: who had a really good game. And you know, obviously
Speaker 1: we saw the chaos at the end, but they just
Speaker 1: got their butts kicked this week, and so you know,
Speaker 1: you think, oh man, they're about to turn it around,
Speaker 1: but then they did. So what they do this week
Speaker 1: and Thursday on Thursday night in front of us in
Speaker 1: Baltimore's really gonna give me what I need to see.
Speaker 1: Because the Cincinnati Bengals aren't a great team, but offensively,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow just threw for five touchdowns. This defense is
Speaker 1: coming along as they always do around this time in
Speaker 1: the season. They're three and one over their last four.
Speaker 1: So you look and you say, okay, Baltimore is your
Speaker 1: time blow out a division opponent and let us all know,
Speaker 1: put us all on notice. So if they were able
Speaker 1: to do that, then they get to say that now
Speaker 1: I still need them to do more.
Speaker 2: No question, I know you've got to be fired up
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Speaker 1: Richard. Yeah, Mitchell, we're going to have a hard time
Speaker 1: not giving him player a month this month. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's over the last five games, Lamar Jackson fourteen touchdown passes,
Speaker 1: one interception, and just high level football, high level football.
Speaker 1: They're running it, they're passing and making great decisions, fourth
Speaker 1: down efficiency at perfect passer rating this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: what can't you say about him? The leading candidate for
Speaker 1: MVP right now. And we all talked about these guys
Speaker 1: throwing all these touchdown passes. We talked about Jordan Love
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahons, but they're throwing a lot of interceptions
Speaker 1: right now. They're one and two in the league in
Speaker 1: interceptions thrown. And even Baker Mayfield, who's leading the league
Speaker 1: in passing yards, are passing touchdowns and I want to
Speaker 1: say yards. It's just throwing a ton of interceptions. So
Speaker 1: you think you would think, oh man, they got a
Speaker 1: high risk, high reward kind of deal. But Lamar Jackson's
Speaker 1: doing it, and so is Josh Allen very efficiently.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Atlanta, Richard. Let's talk about the sinking
Speaker 2: ship that is the Dallas Cowboys. I don't know if
Speaker 2: many people saw this coming into the season. They're three
Speaker 2: and five right now, and I think, frankly, they look horrendous.
Speaker 2: The Atlanta Falcons are six and three. I mean, what's
Speaker 2: the bigger story here in your eyes? The fact that
Speaker 2: Atlanta is six and three are the fact that the
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys are an abysmal three and five.
Speaker 1: I would say the Dallas Cowboys because I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people, you know, we're getting a lot of
Speaker 1: credit to the moves that Atlanta made throughout the offseason.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, people were criticizing them about the
Speaker 1: Michael Pennick's move and drafting him in the first round.
Speaker 1: But he's the future of the franchise and they believe that.
Speaker 1: But they have the current right now and Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 1: and I think he's he's enjoying himself. He's adopting the
Speaker 1: Atlanta culture and the Atlanta vibes and and everything that
Speaker 1: that that they stand for. And I think the city's
Speaker 1: embracing him, and he's embracing the city and he's having
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Mitchell, he was nineteen or twenty
Speaker 1: four today. Three touchdown passes. He was able to hit
Speaker 1: Drake London on a on a fade route or a
Speaker 1: will route in the end zone. He was able to
Speaker 1: hit Mooney on a broken coverage. It looked like they
Speaker 1: just busted cover two and you gotta you just gotta.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm happy for Kirk. I'm happy for Kirk.
Speaker 1: He's always been one of the quarterbacks that that I
Speaker 1: thought was a way better, way better and closer to
Speaker 1: elite than anybody gave him credit. And he's on a
Speaker 1: team with a lot of talent. I think Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: is starting to benefit from it, obviously Darnelle Mooney. But
Speaker 1: John Robinson had seven catches for fifty nine yards, twelve
Speaker 1: rushes for seventy five yards, his best all purpose yards
Speaker 1: game of the season, and they're finally giving him more touches,
Speaker 1: giving him, you know, getting him the ball in space
Speaker 1: a lot more. But remember last year when the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones was at the trade line, was Drey deadline,
Speaker 1: was like, hey, we're not making any moves. We're I mean,
Speaker 1: unless somebody calls us and gives us an offer we
Speaker 1: can't refuse. We just got on to keep doing what
Speaker 1: we do well. Jerry, your team looks abysmal. You should
Speaker 1: have made decisions during all season when you were all in,
Speaker 1: all in, mint all out, I guess, Mitchell, because everybody
Speaker 1: about to be out in a second, they about to
Speaker 1: say you gotta go, you gotta go, you gotta go,
Speaker 1: you gotta go, because they made a terrible move picking
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator. Now, I've talked to players on that team,
Speaker 1: I've talked to guys on that staff. I've talked to
Speaker 1: ex players who played in this game. It's too predictable,
Speaker 1: Mike Zimmers game is too predictable. They don't they he
Speaker 1: doesn't adjust, he doesn't adapt to what's going on right now.
Speaker 1: Like you have to adapt to the league that it
Speaker 1: is right now. You can't say, hey, I've had success
Speaker 1: in the past and I've always done this, and I've
Speaker 1: always done that. You have to evolve. You have to
Speaker 1: adapt to what's happening right now, and he's not. You
Speaker 1: know when they're gonna be in man, you know when
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in zone. You know what zone they're running.
Speaker 1: It's predictable and you can dictate their informations. If it's
Speaker 1: third and short, they're in man, if they're in the
Speaker 1: red zone inside the five, they're in man like. And
Speaker 1: it's really resulted in them being a terrible red zone
Speaker 1: defense because of how predictable they are. And you look
Speaker 1: and you see a lot of the same talented pieces
Speaker 1: that were there when Dan Quinn was there, and they
Speaker 1: were amongst the league leaders at top ten defense, number
Speaker 1: one in turnovers over the past however many years, and
Speaker 1: now they can't seem to get any turnovers. They they're
Speaker 1: not getting to the quarterback at the high till now.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is hurt. Parsons is out. You got to
Speaker 1: give him credit for that, Yes, sir, I understand that.
Speaker 1: But there are still really talented guys there. Carl Lawson
Speaker 1: was able to get to the quarterback. He was a
Speaker 1: free agent acquisition, was able to get to the quarterback
Speaker 1: a few times in this game. But what's happened to
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb? What's happened to the rapport between Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: and Ceedee Lamb. Dak Prescott eighteen to twenty four, but
Speaker 1: only one hundred and thirty three yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 1: They said something about his running this week, that he
Speaker 1: was he had less rushing yards than than your boy
Speaker 1: Jared Goff and I think a rod and so now
Speaker 1: he ran for thirty yards. But again now he pulls
Speaker 1: his hamstring. Mitchell. They almost they almost talked to him
Speaker 1: into pulling his hamstring. So they tell you you're not
Speaker 1: running enough, you laugh it off and say, man, that's bad.
Speaker 1: They get you to run the ball and you pull
Speaker 1: your hamstring in the game, and then they put Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush in, which is gonna start a whole different controversy
Speaker 1: because there's a small contingent of Dallas Cowboy fans who
Speaker 1: have been saying Cooper, Cooper Rush. Put Cooper Rush in
Speaker 1: the game. Cooper, Well, they're gonna have another few games
Speaker 1: of Cooper Rush. I would believe it, depending on the
Speaker 1: severity of Dak Prescott's hamstring injury and if he finds
Speaker 1: the way to win games. Mitchell, this is the kind
Speaker 1: of ridiculousness that happens in Dallas that people would be
Speaker 1: saying they need to start him over the sixty million
Speaker 1: dollar quarterback. I'm not the one saying that, Mitchell, and
Speaker 1: I would never say it because that's ridiculous. But there
Speaker 1: are people that were Dallas Cowboys gear every single week
Speaker 1: that we'll be saying that we.
Speaker 2: Had a buyer cell segment last week, Richard I said
Speaker 2: buy or sell. Dak Prescott is gonna be not on
Speaker 2: this team next year, Richard. If it keeps going down
Speaker 2: this path the Dallas Cowboys. You know Jerry, I mean
Speaker 2: he does not accept losing. You know, this city does
Speaker 2: not accept losing. Where do we go from here with Dallas?
Speaker 2: I mean we're at the halfway point. They're three and five.
Speaker 2: I mean, conceivably they're not out of the playoff picture,
Speaker 2: but for all intentsive purposes, they've been getting absolutely shelled
Speaker 2: by teams. I mean, I know this was a six
Speaker 2: point game, but they were down by multiple scores for
Speaker 2: the bulk of this game. They made it look close late.
Speaker 2: I just don't know what the end goal is with
Speaker 2: this Cowboys team. They made no moves this offseason. They're
Speaker 2: stuck in no man's land. They're in cap hell. They've
Speaker 2: got to pay all their players that they're supposed to
Speaker 2: be the team players that are going to elevate this team.
Speaker 2: Where do we go from here? Is Dak Prescott gonna
Speaker 2: be part of the long term solution with this team?
Speaker 1: Mitchell? Mitchell, I'm gonna let you know something that you
Speaker 1: may not know because I need to look this up. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm on my phone. I need to look at Dak's
Speaker 1: contract details, and I need to so I can have
Speaker 1: exact numbers for you, because perfect, perfect, perfect got it.
Speaker 1: So that's deal that he got Mitchell for all of
Speaker 1: that money hasn't even started yet, and so everybody is
Speaker 1: gonna be gone before Dak Prescott's gone. Dak Prescott makes
Speaker 1: one point two five base salary this year, he makes
Speaker 1: forty seven million, next year, forty to the next year,
Speaker 1: forty five the following year, etcetera, etcetera, fifty five and
Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight. Let's see the one hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: nine million guaranteed at signing, which is his twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four salary plus his twenty twenty five salary. His twenty
Speaker 1: twenty sixth salary is guaranteed Mark sixteenth of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five injury guarantee that signing, and w fifth day of
Speaker 1: league year of twenty twenty six his twenty twenty seven
Speaker 1: salary is guaranteed. So Mitchell McCarthy's gonna be gone, and
Speaker 1: the rumors that he's picking up Prime and he's picking
Speaker 1: up Shador are gonna be as loud as they possibly
Speaker 1: can be. Now, don't let the Dallas Cowboys be in
Speaker 1: the top ten of the National Football League's draft. Do
Speaker 1: not let the Dallas Cowboys be picking in the top
Speaker 1: five of the National Football League's draft because the amount
Speaker 1: of noise you're gonna hear about them picking up Shador Sanders. Mitchell,
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound like Century Link during the NFC championship
Speaker 1: game that we are about to win. Mitchell, It's deafening.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculously deafening, and it's rightfully so. Then they're gonna
Speaker 1: be sitting there saying, well, why doesn't it Dad coach
Speaker 1: him again? He coached them at the high school level,
Speaker 1: he coached them at the college level, he coached them
Speaker 1: at Dallas. And you know one star that could be
Speaker 1: big enough to walk into Dallas and overshadow Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: just a little bit. It's Prime And Mitchell, that's just
Speaker 1: the conversation that it's gonna be am I stoking fires
Speaker 1: that probably aren't there. Is Deon likely gonna just stay
Speaker 1: at Colorado and have a good time and keep coaching
Speaker 1: his butt off. Sure, but I like the controversy, Mitchell,
Speaker 1: and it's the Dallas Cowboys. You never freaking know. All
Speaker 1: you know is that in January they're not gonna be
Speaker 1: there at least at the end.
Speaker 2: I love I love that prophecy Richard, I could totally
Speaker 2: see it. And they've got the Eagles on the docket
Speaker 2: next week. If they lose that game, I mean, we
Speaker 2: might be a step closer to that prophecy. Let's talk
Speaker 2: about the Eagles a little bit, and they are hot
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, if you're not talking about my
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, we might as well be talking about the
Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles as the second hottest team in this NFC
Speaker 2: right now. They beat the Jacksonville Jaguars. They gave him
Speaker 2: a little bit of life, you know. I mean, this
Speaker 2: game is closer than it probably should have been twenty
Speaker 2: eight to twenty three. But Saquon Barkley is flat out bawling.
Speaker 2: I mean, he jumped over a guy backwards today. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw that, but I mean I've
Speaker 2: never seen that before in my life. Saquon Barkley, it
Speaker 2: seems like is the perfect fit for this Philadelphia Eagles team.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the Eagles. Where what's your head? Where's
Speaker 2: your head at with this team? How far do you
Speaker 2: think they can realistically go? Because they look a lot
Speaker 2: better than they did last year right now, rich.
Speaker 1: They look really good and Jalen Hurst looks really accurate.
Speaker 1: I mean, he threw some pinpoint passes in traffic, dimes
Speaker 1: to Devonte Smith and to all they always open aj
Speaker 1: Brown into a saquon for that matter. But I thought
Speaker 1: defensively they made some progress too. I thought they made
Speaker 1: some plays put pressure on Trevor Lawrence caused two interceptions.
Speaker 1: Well one of them, I mean came off of Travers
Speaker 1: Etn's hands. I mean it was a pretty good pass
Speaker 1: by Trevor Lawrence, just a drop by Etn right into
Speaker 1: the defense, right up in the air. Defender Dove caught it.
Speaker 1: You can't really put that one on Trevor, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be on Trevor, you know. I'm sorry. That's how
Speaker 1: it works. The good ones, the good touchdown passes that
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that wasn't a great pass and a
Speaker 1: receiver makes a crazy catch. That's the quarterbacks touchdown too.
Speaker 1: And when it's a great pass and the receiver just
Speaker 1: drops it and bounces it up in the air, it's
Speaker 1: an interception that happens too. But you have to give
Speaker 1: the Eagles a lot of credit. I mean, you saw
Speaker 1: the clip with Sirianni at home going back and forth
Speaker 1: with the fan, and everybody was like, oh, what is
Speaker 1: he doing? Even I was like what is he doing?
Speaker 1: Then the article comes out and a fan does a
Speaker 1: video talking about he was telling Sirianni, Hey, you ran
Speaker 1: it for it five yards on first down. On second down,
Speaker 1: you run for it again. You got a first down,
Speaker 1: but instead you passed it two times. And now it's
Speaker 1: fourth and five. So he's telling them run the ball,
Speaker 1: run it down their throats. And then you look up
Speaker 1: and at the end of the game, I think Saquan
Speaker 1: had like one hundred and sixty or one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy yards rushing, and he turns around and said, did
Speaker 1: I run it enough for you?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Was that enough? We ran it? We ran it, and
Speaker 1: we ran it and we ran it. I listened and people,
Speaker 1: you know, it didn't look great if you didn't know
Speaker 1: what he was saying. But if you knew what he
Speaker 1: was saying, you're like, hey, that's pretty cool. That's actually
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And their season has turned around. They're six
Speaker 1: and two. If you went back to that moment in
Speaker 1: time where Philadelphia fans are booing him and we're saying
Speaker 1: he's on the hot seat, they're about to fire him,
Speaker 1: And now they're six and two, tied for the leading division.
Speaker 1: He'd call me crazy, but that's that's games in Philly.
Speaker 1: We gotta go to Philly in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: and they're playing the Washington Commanders, Mitchell. That's why I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like Lee Corso would not so fast, my friend, because
Speaker 1: those Washington Commanders look really good, look really good. They
Speaker 1: another tough divisional game against the Giants. The Giants made
Speaker 1: the game closer than it had to be. But Jaden Daniel,
Speaker 1: I mean he looked like looked like the guy steal
Speaker 1: you know, and steel guy is elite. He's efficient, he's
Speaker 1: using his legs when he's supposed to. He's keeping himself
Speaker 1: out of harm's way, even with the sore ribs. You know,
Speaker 1: he's dropping domes to Terry mcclu Mitchell. They had eleven
Speaker 1: seconds to go in a half, no timeouts. You got
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback and I think they were about eighteen
Speaker 1: or nineteen yards away from the end zone. You know,
Speaker 1: he does Mintell, He drops back rows a dime on
Speaker 1: a slugo a slant and go route to Terry McClain
Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, back shoulder tug. I said, Ssh,
Speaker 1: this boy makes you want to It makes you it
Speaker 1: feels like it stinks in the room Mitchell my face, Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: who is this guy a rook out out here controlling
Speaker 1: the game pinpoint passes under pressure. In those situations, you
Speaker 1: expect a rookie to make a mistake, to hold the
Speaker 1: ball too long, maybe take a sack, randomly throw.
Speaker 2: The ball up.
Speaker 1: But he just looks like he has such a command
Speaker 1: of the offense, such a calm. The game is moving
Speaker 1: too fast for him. He's got a relationship with Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin that's only getting better and tighter. Their chemistry is
Speaker 1: getting better. This is a team that I'm I need
Speaker 1: to see against the Philadelphia Eagles because I'm not sure
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles are better than them, but maybe they are.
Speaker 1: They're definitely more veteran.
Speaker 2: Well, that division is heating up in a way we
Speaker 2: did not see coming at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2: And like you said, and it goes to show you.
Speaker 2: I mean, we heard reports earlier today that players are
Speaker 2: telling their agents, Hey, I want to play for this team.
Speaker 2: I want to play for the Commanders. I mean, it
Speaker 2: goes to show you how quickly things can change, and
Speaker 2: I know that you have a relationship with d Q,
Speaker 2: the head coach there, dan Quinn, did you see this
Speaker 2: coming when they hired him this offseason? Because he's always
Speaker 2: been looking for his opportunity. It just seems like this
Speaker 2: was the perfect fit for him. And this, I guess
Speaker 2: you have Jaden Daniels fall into your lap at two, Richard,
Speaker 2: How does this all happen in one offseason? Because Washington
Speaker 2: was not thought of as a city that many players
Speaker 2: wanted to go to.
Speaker 1: Well, you got you gotta think. Dan Quinn's first head
Speaker 1: coaching opportunity was in Atlanta and he took his team
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl the first year. I mean, it
Speaker 1: ended up being a memeable super Bowl when they had
Speaker 1: the twenty eight to three lead and Tom and those
Speaker 1: guys come running all the way back and beat him.
Speaker 1: But that's the coach that took his team to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl in the first year. So I knew the
Speaker 1: culture would be good. I knew them bringing in really
Speaker 1: championship caliber all pro leaders like Zach Ertz and Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner would have a positive effect. But no, I cannot
Speaker 1: imagine them being seven and two at this point in
Speaker 1: the season and this young quarterback playing at not only
Speaker 1: an offensive Rookie of the Year type level. But you know,
Speaker 1: if it wasn't for Lamar Jackson just playing outside of
Speaker 1: his mind, you'd be talking about potentially MVP if this
Speaker 1: team can find a way to keep winning ball games
Speaker 1: or him keep pushing the ball down the field like
Speaker 1: he has. And outside of Terry McLaurin, it's not a
Speaker 1: ton of receivers you would say are elite in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. But you got to give Cliff Kingsbury
Speaker 1: he's a lot of credit for what he's been doing schematically.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been really creative. You see some plays
Speaker 1: out of the Washington Commanders that you have never seen
Speaker 1: in the National Football League ever, some creativity in terms
Speaker 1: of the concept, the drop backs, the rollouts, the reverses.
Speaker 1: I mean, again, we talked about the Fleet flicker screen
Speaker 1: pass to Austin Eckler that was just crazy. And Austin Eckler,
Speaker 1: you know, a guy who has played really well, you know,
Speaker 1: a fantasy dream of Sourts International Football League, continues to
Speaker 1: play well, continues to elevate. This team had a really
Speaker 1: good game this week, and I think he's one of
Speaker 1: the underrated parts of this offense that continues to keep
Speaker 1: this engine going, and that defense is coming along. They're
Speaker 1: getting more pressure on the quarterback. You're seeing the DBS
Speaker 1: make more plays. Sure, you're seeing you're seeing busts in
Speaker 1: the coverage and things that are kind of head scratching.
Speaker 1: But overall, I mean to get to be seven and
Speaker 1: two in this league. I mean, there are a couple
Speaker 1: games away from clinching a playoff spot. And that's something
Speaker 1: that you couldn't have talked about in Washington for a
Speaker 1: long time. I can't imagine how cool the city feels.
Speaker 1: But I got another team I want to talk about
Speaker 1: because the Jacksonville jack what's happening in Duvall. You talk
Speaker 1: about hot seats, Mitchell, that's fish grease.
Speaker 2: Hid, Yeah, it is fish grease size. I know you'd
Speaker 2: like to talk about Trevor Lawrence. I mean, he had
Speaker 2: two rushing touchdowns today. I thought of you when he
Speaker 2: eclipsed the end zone on both of those siding I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: maybe Richard will speak a little bit better than in today.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no.
Speaker 2: I mean sixteen to thirty one for one sixty nine
Speaker 2: and two interceptions. What's gonna give. I mean, you just
Speaker 2: paid this guy an exorbitant amount of money. I mean,
Speaker 2: what's the endgame in Jacksonville, because it seems like we're
Speaker 2: all aboard the Titanic and we just about hit that glacier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mitchell's Doug Peterson is probably gonna gonna see see
Speaker 1: the end of his time there. And because they will
Speaker 1: not blame Trevor Lawrence for some reason. You know people
Speaker 1: you see people in the comments or look, what is
Speaker 1: he supposed to do? The receivers are dropping the balls?
Speaker 1: What is he supposed to do? Like those interceptions aren't
Speaker 1: on him, and this game Trevor Etms interception wasn't on him.
Speaker 1: But the one to Nakobe Dean was that that wasn't
Speaker 1: a great pass. That was you know, there were better
Speaker 1: places to put that football and they could have won
Speaker 1: that game with that pass. But instead he turns the
Speaker 1: ball over. They lose. But they not understanding last year
Speaker 1: to Kansas City Chiefs. I think let the league drops
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl somehow and they'd say, well, the
Speaker 1: defense played better. Defense played pretty good today. I mean
Speaker 1: Trevon Walker thirty five yard touchdow, I mean fumble return
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. So the defense gave you a touchdown today,
Speaker 1: they gave you a turnover. They had multiple sacks, they
Speaker 1: put pressure on the quarterback. They're facing a really high
Speaker 1: powered offense with a lot of playmakers, but your offense
Speaker 1: didn't do their part, and the quarterback is a part
Speaker 1: of that. You had a chance to win the game.
Speaker 1: You could make a better decision, better placement with the football,
Speaker 1: and we wouldn't be this critical of him if he
Speaker 1: wasn't getting top five quarterback money. When you're getting top
Speaker 1: five quarterback money, then you get top five quarterback criticism.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, That's just how the world works. If you're
Speaker 1: the number one paid quarterback in the National Football League,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, he gets highly criticized and comes with the territory.
Speaker 1: He understands that if you're getting top quarterback money, then
Speaker 1: even if you're not playing to that level and never have,
Speaker 1: you get that criticism because you're getting paid like it.
Speaker 1: And if I'm getting paid like an elite even if
Speaker 1: I'm not playing elite, maybe it's bad on the team
Speaker 1: and the guys who paid him. Trent Balke like, why why,
Speaker 1: I mean you better off going bridge quarterback and drafting
Speaker 1: but who am I. They're gonna make me a GM someday.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm definitely not gonna run it like this. But
Speaker 1: when you keep going into situations, and you do see
Speaker 1: situations where you're throwing really good passes and guys are
Speaker 1: dropping him. I saw several in his game, a first
Speaker 1: down past Evan Ingram drop. I saw multiple touchdown passes
Speaker 1: in one game. I think he threw two or three
Speaker 1: in one drive. Guys just drop, drop, drop, and I
Speaker 1: was like, ah, that sucks. But I also watch other
Speaker 1: teams and guys drop the touchdowns, and you know what
Speaker 1: the quarterback does, Mitchell, he keeps throwing them. He keep
Speaker 1: josh Avan, they drop a couple of touchdown fast. Guess
Speaker 1: what he gonna throw a couple more. And Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: I watch Bateman drop a wide open touchdown, the lights
Speaker 1: in his eyes, Mitchell, and he's gonna throw a couple
Speaker 1: mouth And that's why they're getting paid the big bucks
Speaker 1: because no matter what, they will overcome. That's why they
Speaker 1: get paid like they do. They overcome the circumstances. And
Speaker 1: you know what, they get paid to do it. And
Speaker 1: if you getting paid to do it and you're not
Speaker 1: doing it, expect to be criticized. That's all I'm saying. Mitchell,
Speaker 1: one one hundred and sixty nine yards, two interceptions just
Speaker 1: isn't getting it done. But two touchdown rushes on quarterback sneaks.
Speaker 1: I guess, good job, Trevor.
Speaker 2: I would love to hear the Jacksonville Jaguars fans come
Speaker 2: at you in the comments after a breakdown like that,
Speaker 2: because you're absolutely right, Richard. You're absolutely right. With opportunity
Speaker 2: and money comes much criticism, and he's just not performing.
Speaker 1: Richard.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Arizona. Arizona had a huge challenge against
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, scrappy, needing a win. Arizona comes out victorious
Speaker 2: in a big fashion here. I mean, the Chicago Bears
Speaker 2: are not the Chicago Bears we've seen the last three years.
Speaker 2: They look like a very competitive team. Not today. The
Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals come out with a twenty nine to nine win.
Speaker 2: This NFC West is heating up to be a battle
Speaker 2: to the finish line. Do you expect the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 2: at the end of the year to be firmly in
Speaker 2: the mix to take this division crown?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Mitchell, But because you don't know what
Speaker 1: you're getting out of this team week to week. But
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll give Jonathan Gannon credit for it,
Speaker 1: because even when Kyler Murray was out, you saw teams
Speaker 1: going there. We talked about it because they beat the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys last year. They beat a couple other teams,
Speaker 1: and they were finding ways to win games because James
Speaker 1: Connor is a bully and they got an offensive line
Speaker 1: that feels the same way, and they run the ball
Speaker 1: really well, and they keep running it and keep running
Speaker 1: and they stay consistent with it. Amari de Mercado, I
Speaker 1: don't even know where he came from Metell, but he
Speaker 1: had a fifty three yard rushing touchdown and he ran
Speaker 1: away from the entire defense and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: who is this? Who is this? And where is James Connor?
Speaker 1: And but you again, they are staying committed to the
Speaker 1: run game. And Jonathan Gannon, it sounds like he has
Speaker 1: some old school coach in his ear telling him, you
Speaker 1: know what wins games, defense, run game, controlling the clock
Speaker 1: like good special teams. And that's what they're doing, Mitchell.
Speaker 1: They're playing really good defense. Sound they're not allowing Kyler
Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field owe that all
Speaker 1: that much. I mean he threw the ball twenty times
Speaker 1: this game. He was thirteen to twenty for one point
Speaker 1: fifty four, no touchdowns, no interception. He did lose that fumble.
Speaker 1: But they're they're not gonna put the ball in Harm's way.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be efficient. Don't turn the ball over, Kyler
Speaker 1: running when you can and give it to James Connor,
Speaker 1: let him wear the defense down. And it's winning football.
Speaker 1: They're five and four, they've been they this Bears defense
Speaker 1: that I have a lot of respect for. Jalen Johnson
Speaker 1: and the boys have been playing really good football all
Speaker 1: year long, and this is this is one of those
Speaker 1: games where I think they just had an off game.
Speaker 1: They just had an off day. And so did Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: I mean, he just did not look good. You saw,
Speaker 1: you know, the one pass where he tried to side
Speaker 1: on you know, short stop to first base, throw it
Speaker 1: down the field and it almost got picked off. But
Speaker 1: it just seemed like they didn't they didn't want to
Speaker 1: catch that football. It was too hot. But Caleb Williams
Speaker 1: twenty two or forty two hundred and seventeen yards, no touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no interceptions, but sacked six times a beat up in
Speaker 1: this game. Arizona was bringing pressure from all over the
Speaker 1: place and you look up and Xavian Collins or Xavon
Speaker 1: Collins two sacks, Xavier Thomas sack and a half guys
Speaker 1: getting pressure. But this is a relatively a team with
Speaker 1: relatively unknown players outside of Buddha Baker. You don't know
Speaker 1: a ton of these guys on this defense that are
Speaker 1: making plays. You know, Zavon Collins was drafted pretty high.
Speaker 1: Outside of James Connor and Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison junior,
Speaker 1: you don't know a ton about this offense and what
Speaker 1: they've been doing. But Mitchell, they're getting the job done.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, they're leading the NFC West right now, Minchell.
Speaker 1: And if you don't, if the San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 1: or Seattle Seahawks and the Rams don't get their stuff together,
Speaker 1: they will walk away with it. Cardinals are playing the Jets,
Speaker 1: who just got to win on Thursday against the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans and maybe getting their mojo back. But with this
Speaker 1: wild card Cardinals team, you just never know. You never
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do. You don't.
Speaker 2: I mean, they look that this game next weekend is
Speaker 2: going to be a huge game for both teams, the
Speaker 2: Cardinals against the Jets, and then you look at the Bears.
Speaker 2: I mean they're four and four. A lot of folks
Speaker 2: in Chicago were hot on this team. But let's set
Speaker 2: these fans back to reality. Their four wins have come
Speaker 2: against the Panthers, an injury injury riddled Rams team, the Jags,
Speaker 2: and the Titans. So they get another opportunity next week
Speaker 2: to add to their resume with a potential win against
Speaker 2: the Patriots. I gotta see more from the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: This was an opportunity on the road against a team
Speaker 2: needing to win in Arizona for them to show themselves,
Speaker 2: and I think they dropped it. I don't know rich.
Speaker 2: I mean, this NFC North is a highly contested battle
Speaker 2: going on right now. I think Chicago might fade a
Speaker 2: little bit. But let's talk about a team that needs
Speaker 2: to rise, and that's the Cincinnati Bengals. They were in
Speaker 2: much need of a win this week hosting the Raiders,
Speaker 2: and they they did what they did and they absolutely
Speaker 2: obliterated the Las Vegas Raiders. Joe Burrow had a field day,
Speaker 2: throwing for five touchdowns. Is it safe to say that
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals are back to what we thought they
Speaker 2: would be. Are they in competition area? Where where's your
Speaker 2: head at with this team?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't I still don't know, Betchell, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let me let me, let me look at a couple
Speaker 1: of things, because the Cincinnati Bengals are just inconsistent. And
Speaker 1: what they've been over the last four games defensively is
Speaker 1: a much better team than they've been over the first
Speaker 1: four games. Almost two different, totally different teams in general.
Speaker 1: But you look up and you say, this team has
Speaker 1: all the talent in the world. They have the ability
Speaker 1: to turn up on defense, they have the corners to
Speaker 1: play at a high level, they have the pass rushers
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback and Hendrickson and Hubbard. But
Speaker 1: but you just don't see it consistently. And Joe Burrows
Speaker 1: throws five touchdown passes for the second time this season.
Speaker 1: But then you look up and you're like, oh, he
Speaker 1: must be he must have thirty touchdowns this year, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's not. He's not leading the league right
Speaker 1: now in touchdown passes. I think he has well, he's third,
Speaker 1: he started third in the league. So a quarter of
Speaker 1: his touchdown passes came today. Uh So without t Higgins
Speaker 1: in the lineup, you you wonder can they beat a
Speaker 1: team like the like the Baltimore Ravens. Hopefully he's gonna
Speaker 1: get back. I thought he had a chance to get
Speaker 1: back this week. He'll be back next week. But this
Speaker 1: is the team we expected to see. Trey Hendrickson four
Speaker 1: sacks in the game. Really incredible game for him. Uh
Speaker 1: in that defense. Just Secie. I don't know why I'd
Speaker 1: like to say his name, just it just sounds cool.
Speaker 1: But he had five catches for over a hundred yards,
Speaker 1: two touchdown passes, and he could have had another one.
Speaker 1: He looks like he can emerge as one of Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow's top top targets because outside of him, Jamar Chase
Speaker 1: had I think forty seven yards and nobody really really
Speaker 1: woke up outside of Chiasecke. He seemed like he had
Speaker 1: the matchup that they wanted to exploit, and they exploited it.
Speaker 1: Trace Brown ran the ball really well, caught the ball
Speaker 1: out of the backfield really well. Twenty seven carries for
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty yards. He also had five catches
Speaker 1: for thirty seven yards. In a touchdown pass. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out what they are this week, Mitchell. They
Speaker 1: play the Baltimore Ravens on Thursday Night football only on
Speaker 1: Prime Video, and I'm gonna be there, Mitchell, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep a very very close eye on this offense
Speaker 1: and how they execute if T. Higgins isn't in the lineup,
Speaker 1: because that's just I think their second win over since
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three with T. Higgins out of the lineup.
Speaker 1: So now they're two and six when he's not in
Speaker 1: the lineup, And this offense looked really good. Give Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow a lot of credit to hundred five ffty one
Speaker 1: yards five touchdown passes. He got the job done, found
Speaker 1: other guys to really be able to push the ball
Speaker 1: down the field. But is it sustainable?
Speaker 2: We shall see, We shall, and we shall. Last week
Speaker 2: I post you a question, I said, are the Chargers
Speaker 2: the best defense in football?
Speaker 1: Buy? Or so?
Speaker 2: And you sold on that Richard.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 2: I know they were going against the Browns and Jamis Winston,
Speaker 2: but they certainly at times have me thinking, man, this
Speaker 2: might be the best defense in football. Has your mindset
Speaker 2: changed at all after seeing then? Today?
Speaker 1: Take it to the Cleveland Browns. It hasn't changed. But again,
Speaker 1: they're living up to the potential that they've showed over
Speaker 1: the last what five years, four or five years with
Speaker 1: the talent that they had. I mean, Derwin, James, Sante,
Speaker 1: Samuel Junior, Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, you know, the names
Speaker 1: go on and on and on, all these Pro Bowl,
Speaker 1: All Pro caliber players, and they're starting to play together
Speaker 1: as a really talented unit. You got Justin Herbert playing
Speaker 1: really good football, and it's flipped back and forth because
Speaker 1: earlier in the season they were leaning on the run
Speaker 1: game and JK. Dobbins was winning Player of the Week
Speaker 1: and you know, had all that acclaim, making all those
Speaker 1: big plays, and I think he's still playing solid football.
Speaker 1: He had fourteen carries for eighty five yards and two
Speaker 1: touchdowns today. But they're starting to lean on Justin Herbert
Speaker 1: a little bit more. Eighteen to twenty seven for two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty two yards, two touchdown passes. But the
Speaker 1: guy who's been the greatest surprise this season has been
Speaker 1: Quinton Johnson. A lot of people were calling him a
Speaker 1: bus last season that you know, he was dropping a
Speaker 1: lot of passes easy passes, wide open passes, and this
Speaker 1: year it just seems like he's turned everything around. It's
Speaker 1: been a beautiful, wonderful story of redemption for this young
Speaker 1: man and it's really helped to power this offense. During
Speaker 1: this run. They've been on their defense, holding the Browns
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Speaker 2: Uh Richard, Let's talk about the Bills. This game was
Speaker 2: a lot closer than I think a lot expected. Another
Speaker 2: Division game against the Dolphins comes down to the wire.
Speaker 2: The Bills escape with a game winning field goal. What's
Speaker 2: the strategy going forward? Let's start with the Dolphins because
Speaker 2: it seems like they're the season is at a loss.
Speaker 2: Do you just sit to it at this point or
Speaker 2: what do you do if you are the coach and
Speaker 2: general manager of this Dolphins team?
Speaker 1: Well clearly want to so I don't think you do that.
Speaker 1: I think you just keep competing. You know, teams have
Speaker 1: come back and teams have rallied, and the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: being one of them. I remember when Flores was there.
Speaker 1: I think they won seven straight to end the season,
Speaker 1: tried to get themselves in the playoff hunt and barely
Speaker 1: missed it. I don't think inn the NFL, you have
Speaker 1: teams that punt seasons. I know you have teams that
Speaker 1: don't have good enough teams to compete, Like right now,
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers are dealing with that offensively, the Browns
Speaker 1: are dealing with a little bit of that. The Patriots.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are dealing with issues the Jacksonville Jaguars. You
Speaker 1: know teams where you're just like, hey, can't figure it out.
Speaker 1: You can't figure out what's not working for your team.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't think you pumped the season. I
Speaker 1: think you got to keep competing. Buffalo obviously having a
Speaker 1: great season. We talked about all the great things Josh
Speaker 1: Allen's doing, had another great game this game, and the
Speaker 1: Dolphins had opportunities to win this game, to walk away
Speaker 1: with the W and just things just aren't the boys
Speaker 1: and bouncing their way this season on either side of
Speaker 1: the ball. But all you can do is keep competing.
Speaker 2: A no question. I mean the Bills, everyone expected them
Speaker 2: to win, but Miami came out. They needed this win
Speaker 2: more and like you said, crazier things have happened. You
Speaker 2: got to keep that gas pedal to the floor if
Speaker 2: you're Miami, because what is the alternative? I mean, you
Speaker 2: already got your quarterback, you already got your playmakers and
Speaker 2: now healthy. Let's see where this season goes, Richard, that
Speaker 2: can go. I mean we're through week nine already, We're
Speaker 2: past the halfway point. Where does your head go the
Speaker 2: rest of the way? I mean, because we've got my
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions, who I believe. I know the Kansas City
Speaker 2: Chiefs are playing on Monday Night Football, but I believe
Speaker 2: they've shown enough to show you, Richard Sherman, that they
Speaker 2: are deserving of your number one spot and your power ranks.
Speaker 2: What else do they have to do to prove you
Speaker 2: that they are worthy?
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs has to lose. It has less to
Speaker 1: do with the Honolulu Blue Detroit Lions and more to
Speaker 1: do with Kansas City Chiefs. There are the defending Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champions and have not lost the game. So for
Speaker 1: me to take them out of the top spot would
Speaker 1: be what they consider asinine. Mitchell, I cannot do it.
Speaker 1: I will not do it, and they must be dethroned,
Speaker 1: and once they are dethroned, then I will put the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions up there. But not so fast, my friend.
Speaker 1: They are seven and zero have not lost the game,
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for somebody to figure them out and
Speaker 1: give them an al.
Speaker 2: I respect that answer. I respect it, Richard. This concludes
Speaker 2: a week nine sign us off.
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