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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants' Greatest Play Bracket podcast, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Hackensack and Meridian Health Keep getting Better. I

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Speaker 1: am John Schmelck, joined by the Voice of the Giants,

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Speaker 1: Bob Poppa. We have our finals all four brackets. The

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Speaker 1: voting has been completed, and we have our final four

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Speaker 1: plays for Giant fans to vote for their greatest play

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Speaker 1: in Giants history.

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Speaker 2: Go to giants dot com.

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Speaker 1: Slash bracket to check out all the results and to

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Speaker 1: place your vote for your favorite play. Bob, we have

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Speaker 1: our four plays here that fans can choose from to

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Speaker 1: nominate and to choose for their greatest play in Giants history.

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Speaker 1: The four plays we have no surprise the helmet catch

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning to David Tyree in Super Bowl forty two

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Speaker 1: to help sustain a drive that eventually gives the Giants

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Speaker 1: the lead and the victory. You have Victor Cruz's ninety

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Speaker 1: nine yard touchdown against the Jets, which helped send the

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Speaker 1: Giants to the playoffs. In twenty eleven, you have the

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning Mario Manningham catch down the sideline on the

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Speaker 1: first play of the Giants game winning drive in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter of Super Bowl forty six, and then you

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Speaker 1: have Odell Beckham's unbelievable athletic grab one handed against the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys in primetime. Those are the four plays that Giant

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Speaker 1: fans can vote for for the greatest play in Giants history.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think three of the four are obvious, right,

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Speaker 3: the helmet catch, Cruz and Eli Manning I mean to

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Speaker 3: Mario Manningham. But it's interesting because John, I think there's

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Speaker 3: a little age bias in the blue bracket. As far

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Speaker 3: as Odell Beckham Junior's catch winning that bracket now greatest

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Speaker 3: plays in Giants' history, well, certainly it is a great play,

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Speaker 3: and it is an amazing athletic feat, and it's something

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Speaker 3: that sent Odell Beckham Junior from being a really good

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Speaker 3: wide receiver with the New York Giants to superstart.

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Speaker 4: Them in an instant.

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Speaker 3: Right Lebron's tweeting everything it went viral, and what he

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Speaker 3: was able to do individually while he was being interfered with,

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Speaker 3: to catch the along the sideline, get both feet in

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Speaker 3: the ball is one of the great athletic feats that

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Speaker 3: you'll ever see in the NFL. The reason why though

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't vote this as the greatest play in this

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Speaker 3: bracket is because I think we're talking about greatest plays.

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Speaker 3: You're not just talking about greatest individual efforts. You're talking

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Speaker 3: about greatest plays in Giants' history, and you have to

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Speaker 3: put everything kind of into context. That played it and

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Speaker 3: helped the Giants win the game, That played it and

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Speaker 3: helped the Giants make the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: So hey, it was a great play.

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Speaker 3: Michael Strahan made a great play in nineteen ninety nine

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Speaker 3: in Philadelphia with the pick six at the end of

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Speaker 3: the season against Doug Peterson. An unbelievable play for a

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Speaker 3: defensive end. But it was a season of non playoff.

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Speaker 3: It was you know it was and that was an

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Speaker 3: overtime to win for me. The hit the Hakeem Nix

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Speaker 3: hail Mary was in the final four in this and

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Speaker 3: that was a great play. But there's an element of

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Speaker 3: luck to that, and also for some reason the Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers. It wasn't like Nicks made this unbelievable catch.

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Speaker 3: It's like all the Packers missed time, their jumpers stayed

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Speaker 3: away from the ball.

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Speaker 4: He caught it relatively easy.

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Speaker 2: He did.

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Speaker 3: It's a significant play because it's the visional playoff round.

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Speaker 3: And the Giants went on to go win Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: And you, by the way, when you watch the Packers

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Speaker 1: walk off the field after that Hail Mary catch, you

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Speaker 1: could tell that game was over.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we were not going to come back and win.

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Speaker 4: We could fill in lambeau Field.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: The final score doesn't indicate how much the Giants dominated

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Speaker 3: that game. See for me, the Bivarro carrying the forty

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Speaker 3: nine Ers. Here's the reason why that could have beaten

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Speaker 3: the catch. The Niners were established now as a Super

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Speaker 2: The team that played in Washington.

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Speaker 3: And this was like, you're down seventeen to nothing in

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Speaker 3: and Bavaro's catch and run and carrying of Niners is epic.

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Speaker 3: It lives till this day. You see it replayed all

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Speaker 3: the time, and it spurred this team on. And not

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Speaker 3: only did it spur the team on, but the Giants

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Speaker 3: if they played the Niners in the postseason that they

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Speaker 2: And that was the play that the catch knocked out

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Speaker 1: But to me, Bob, and I know you agree with me,

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Speaker 1: it was the play that the catch knocked out in

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Speaker 1: the final four that I thought was gonna win this

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that this bracket when I looked at it. Initially,

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Speaker 3: I said third and thirteen and Bavaro forty nine ers

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Speaker 3: for our younger fans out there. So Super Bowl twenty five,

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Speaker 3: the Giants had to play a certain way. We all

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Speaker 3: we gotta let Thrman Thomas get one hundred yards their

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Speaker 4: It's too much boom boom boom, boom boom.

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Speaker 3: So the Giants are trailing twelve to three late in

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Speaker 2: It's three twenty four to ten plays eighty seven yards.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very un Giant like to go down the

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Speaker 3: down twelve to ten, come out. They get the ball

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Speaker 2: Fourteen plays seventy five yards.

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Speaker 3: And the third and thirteen. The Giants have the ball

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Speaker 3: Now it's not like Ingram got open and got the

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Speaker 3: If Ingram gets tackled anywhere short of the sticks, let's

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Speaker 3: But because of this drive played out so long, Basically

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Speaker 3: fourteen minutes of game clock. That's almost an entire quarter

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Speaker 3: play from an individual standpoint, a heart stand point, important,

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Speaker 3: strategic standpoint. To me, this play should have gone against Bavarro.

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Speaker 3: And if I was voting, I would have voted for

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Speaker 3: the Ingram play because it took an unbelievable individual effort,

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Speaker 3: just like Odell had an unbelievable individual effort. Ingram's heart

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Speaker 3: and unbelievable effort helped the Giants win Super Bowl twenty five,

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Speaker 3: So it's to me that play should have won this bracket.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it might be a little strong to say

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Speaker 1: that the Giants were conceding not getting the first down

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Speaker 1: there and they're gonna kick the field goal, take the lead,

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Speaker 1: by the way, he caught it standing still. He's not

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Speaker 1: catching it on the move. You're kind of throwing that pass.

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Speaker 1: It kicked the field goal, but it was Ingram's individual

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Speaker 1: Remember the Giants only win this game by one point

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Speaker 1: twenty to nineteen, so that touchdown the field goal there, Bob.

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Speaker 1: That's the difference between a win and a loss.

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Speaker 3: And then as the game we're on, Buffalo somehow figured

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Speaker 4: Why right?

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Speaker 3: But to me, the Ingram third and third and thirteen here,

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Speaker 3: makeable field goal for Matt Barr but like, heck, I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna go get this first down. That epitomized that team,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: ODE's catch might go down as one of the best

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Speaker 1: individual feats in terms of catching the football in the

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Speaker 1: But it's the context and the meaning of the play

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Speaker 1: in Giant's history that makes the difference. There, all right, Bob,

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Speaker 1: let's jump over to the red bracket. Eli Manning to

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Speaker 1: and that helped set up the game winning score late there, Bob.

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Speaker 1: the precision play in the final in in our final

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Speaker 1: Manny and you couldn't bobble this for a second. He

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Speaker 1: forty six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was the drive starter right out

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Speaker 3: of the gate. I thought the Giants were a better

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Speaker 3: team going into that Super Bowl. You know, there was

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Speaker 3: that famous Vince will fork where he drew a penalty

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Speaker 3: then New England found their their footing and this game was,

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Speaker 3: oh you know, it was epic again. Look the Flee

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Speaker 2: Of bounds, and he gets lit up by the safety.

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Speaker 2: Well, I remember, and you made the call live.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it knocked off Plex's game winner in Super

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Speaker 2: But obviously an important play.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the grave bracket, Bob.

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Speaker 1: And there was no to me, obvious play in this

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Speaker 1: There's another play in there that's kind of important from

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Speaker 2: Is kind of what vaulted this. But it's also a

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, I mean, look from an athletics standpoint,

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Speaker 2: Course, that's in a playoff game, and the wins was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's in a playoff game, in a win at

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Speaker 4: The catch. Odell's catch has.

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Speaker 3: Nothing other than the catch, so correct again, don't get

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Speaker 1: The other two plays of the Final four Lord's Tides'

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the football was as hard as a rock,

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Speaker 4: So that's it.

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Speaker 3: The they're all special. But here's why the Cruise play deserves,

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Speaker 2: But Wye Tittle to Frank Gifford.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of great players, but

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Speaker 4: Little age buys.

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Speaker 3: But the thing about Cruise was, again, the Giants were

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Speaker 3: Stagnant, and in fact, the Jets, the Jets had the edge.

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Speaker 4: If it was a.

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Speaker 3: Boxing match and you're watching that game, the Jets actually

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Speaker 3: And once Cruse goes ninety nine yards changes everything and

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Speaker 3: once they won that game in Dallas, to keep their

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Speaker 1: Two other plays, by the way, in this bracket, I

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Speaker 1: that twenty eleven season, the Jason Pierre Paul blockfield a

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Speaker 2: Thirty straight field goals like it was good go.

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Speaker 1: In and if he doesn't block that kick, they lose

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Speaker 3: Right, And not to mention JPP was dominant in that game.

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Speaker 3: So I Cruse's play is an individual play that's wrapped

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Speaker 1: And then the other play and Cruise the Cruise player

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Speaker 1: that up, right, Bob. The Eric Howard forced fumble where

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Speaker 1: that game. That is a It's one of the how

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Speaker 2: He got one first down.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to force a punt and get a stop, right,

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Speaker 1: It's another to strip the ball, force a fumble and

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Speaker 2: They don't have a Super Bowl without it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think I think the Eric Howard

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Speaker 3: He was not a guy that fumbled a lot. Montana

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Speaker 3: Steve Young is in they're being conservative.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 3: I think the Eric Howard force fumble recovered by Lawrence

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Speaker 2: The other big defensive play, the ep Screen pass play,

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Speaker 4: I'm surprised.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought when I was looking at the bracket,

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Speaker 3: might not ever get that kick. But again the conditions

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Speaker 3: in Lambeau. But the Antonio Pierce play, to me is

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Speaker 1: Well, in fact, you can make the argument, Bob, that

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Speaker 1: I would playing the Ape plays. In terms of defensive

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Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, But I thought the I thought

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Speaker 2: All right. The final bracket, Bob, the white bracket.

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Speaker 1: And the reason we made this the white bracket is

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Speaker 4: Why I was wondering how the color schemes got there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had some conversations. Some of them were tough

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Speaker 2: Great jerseys and any of these. So that was kind

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Speaker 2: of like the last one, I just make it Cray.

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Speaker 1: But the other one we tried to batch up the

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the game winning you know, it wasn't the

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Speaker 1: Just an unbelievable catch by David Tyree after Eli Manning.

442
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Speaker 1: It might be his best sack escape in his career,

443
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Speaker 1: and he saves it for the Super Bowl to set

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Speaker 1: up the game winning touchdown. Not a surprise that comes

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Speaker 1: out of the White bracket. But it did have some

446
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Speaker 1: great competition. You have some really iconic Giant plays here.

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Speaker 1: You have all defense, by the way, Yeah, the Leonard

448
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: we talked about a big time defensive plays, right, the

449
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: Lennard Marshall hit on Joe Montana that knocked him out

450
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Speaker 1: of the game and really changed his career in a

451
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Speaker 1: lot of ways.

452
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Speaker 2: Joe Montana with the way he got hit on that play.

453
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Speaker 1: The George Moore and is seventy eight yard pick six

454
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Speaker 1: and then the LT picked six on Thanksgiving. A lot

455
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Speaker 1: of iconic Giant defensive plays there, but they lose out

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Speaker 1: to the helmet catch in the final four.

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Speaker 2: Of this bracket.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the LT play is great.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was not the brightest period in Giant's history, and

461
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,959
Speaker 3: but you know, he made an unbelievable play and it

462
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Speaker 3: was Lawrence Taylor, and I can see why it made

463
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Speaker 3: it as far as it made it.

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Speaker 4: The George Martin play.

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Speaker 3: You know, here, we'll put this into context again in

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Speaker 3: the eighty six season. You know, the Broncos, led by

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Speaker 3: head coach Dan Reeves and John Elway, were they were

468
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Speaker 3: considered one of the top teams in the AFC, if

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Speaker 3: not the top team, and the Giants were considered one

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Speaker 3: of the top teams in the NFC. And when they

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Speaker 3: met at Giants Stadium, you know, there are a lot

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Speaker 3: of people going into the game that were billing this

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Speaker 3: as a heavyweight fight and this could be a potential

474
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Speaker 3: Super Bowl matchup, which it eventually did and the Giants

475
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Speaker 3: won Super Bowl twenty one.

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Speaker 4: I think George.

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Speaker 3: Martin's tip and then you know his athletics, and George

478
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Speaker 3: Martin scored a lot of defensive touchdowns in his Giant career,

479
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Speaker 3: and I think that was a very significant moment from

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Speaker 3: a psychological standpoint that whoever the AFC is going to

481
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 3: bring in front of us in eighty six were winning.

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Speaker 3: So I think that play rightly deserves where it made

483
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 3: it too. And the Marshall hit on Montana. Talk about

484
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 3: individual efforts, you talk about Ingram on the third and

485
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: thirteen play, I mean Leonard Marshall was blocked twice and

486
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,360
Speaker 3: was not completely to the ground and he crawled and

487
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 3: got back up and stayed in the play to obliterate Montana. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think if that play happens in twenty twenty two

489
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 3: or twenty three or twenty four, its flags coming out

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Speaker 3: and it's gonna be rough on the passer, but under

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Speaker 3: the rules of that era and the way the game

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00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 3: was played. But it was Leonard Marshall's effort to get

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Speaker 3: off the ground twice, to get up and not quit

494
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Speaker 3: on the play. That to me makes that a really

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Speaker 3: special play. But the helmet catches, and you think about

496
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Speaker 3: the helmet catch. As Rodney Harrison is pulling Tyree down,

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Speaker 3: I think if he pulls him down to his left

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Speaker 3: or to his right and not straight on him, I'm

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00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 3: not sure Tyree hangs onto the ball, but he pulled

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Speaker 3: him down on top of his body, which broke the fall,

501
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: which kept Tyree's elbow from really hitting against the ground

502
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: and kept the ball f him hitting the gun too correct.

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Speaker 3: I think if he slams him down sideways, I'm not

504
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 3: sure if Tyree's gonna be able to keep that ball

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Speaker 3: secure it.

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Speaker 4: Against his helmet.

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Speaker 3: But you know what he did, and all the other

508
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 3: stuff is just guessing, and the fact is he did

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00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: it great play.

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Speaker 1: I still remember us watching the replay of that in

511
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: the booth of that Super Bowl and we're literally sitting

512
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 1: there like, all right, well, they're gonna show a replay

513
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: with the ball hit the ground right like, we're just

514
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: waiting for the right angle to show up for them to,

515
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, called it in complete pass and it never came,

516
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh my gosh, he really actually pinned

517
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: that to the helmet and it didn't hit the ground.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe what we just saw was unbelievable?

519
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Speaker 4: Can you believe? I said wide open Tyree?

520
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Speaker 1: And by the way, just for the record, when he

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Speaker 1: does throw the pass, there wasn't anyone near Tyree in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the field.

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Speaker 2: That's why Eli threw it to him.

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Speaker 1: The problem is that the ball hugged in the air

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00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 1: for about eight seconds and it came Rodney Harrison thought

526
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: to come over at Olbo's docked the football the way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's good.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because we were and Kevin gilber I did

529
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: confirm via coaches tape that he was wide open. But

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00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 3: you know what happened was sometimes in the Super Bowl,

531
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 3: you don't get the best locations.

532
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 4: We were behind the play.

533
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 3: We were in the corner of the end zone, so

534
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 3: it's going it's all going away from us at this point.

535
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 3: So when the ELI first takes the snap and drops

536
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 3: back and avoids some pressure, I can see the receivers

537
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: in their routes and Tyree's running wide open down the

538
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 3: middle of the field. It's almost like the Patriots just weren't.

539
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 4: Going to cover him.

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00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 3: So I in my head, I'm like, oh my god,

541
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 3: Tyree's open, but I'm calling Eli avoiding the sacks.

542
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 4: And then when he HEAs it down the middle, I

543
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 4: say wide open.

544
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: Obviously with the arc on the ball, and by the

545
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: time Eli didn't get to it for about three seconds after,

546
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: Tyree was wide open because Eli was playing, you know, Mattador,

547
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 3: trying to avoid defenders and that's and then all of

548
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: a sudden, I blurred out wide open. And at that

549
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 3: point I'm like, he's not wide open, but he was.

550
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Speaker 1: But there was a reason Eli threw him the football

551
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: because he can throw it to him when he was covered.

552
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: He saw him as he's escaping that he was open,

553
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: starts to throw and then Harrison makes.

554
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 4: His way over there. Yeah, and then everybody decides to

555
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: not block.

556
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: Oh, No, one likes breaking down that play more than

557
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 1: Showan O'Hara pointing out chrisne just shoveling and pedaling his

558
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: feet with nobody in front of him for about four

559
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: seconds on the play.

560
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 4: Let's do it to Mike Carrey for not blowing the whistle.

561
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: Yes, a handful of jersey trying to pull Eli Dan

562
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: and play.

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00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 4: Anyway, it was fun. It was a fun exercise to

564
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Speaker 4: go through all this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the finals, Bob, real quick to me, this

566
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Speaker 1: is gonna come down to do you like the improbable,

567
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: unbelievable Tyree pinning the ball to his helmet and Eli

568
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: escaping the play, or do you prefer the precision of

569
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: the Eli to Manningham, everything had to be perfect in

570
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: order to complete the past. I love the Cruise play,

571
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: I love the Beckham catch, But the regular season plays,

572
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 1: we're talking about two Super Bowl plays that required a

573
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 1: lot of skill and precision in one case, just an

574
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: unbelievable physical effort in the other to set up game

575
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: winning plays in the Super Bowl. I imagine that's gonna

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00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: be the two plays that most fans are choosing from here,

577
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Speaker 1: and I'll be interested to.

578
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: See which way they go.

579
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Speaker 1: Given how the plays are similar in some ways, but

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Speaker 1: also I think very different in terms of why they

581
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: were great.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think.

583
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Speaker 3: My guess is that the helmet catch is gonna win

584
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: because it was just so extraordinary.

585
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: Yea.

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00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: But all we should remind everybody when they vote on this,

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00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: it's not brackets now, correct, right, It's gonna be these

588
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 3: four plays, and then you vote on what you think

589
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: is the greatest play in Giant's history. There'll be no

590
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: there's no like, no matchups, no matchups here. It's not

591
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 3: gonna be one play versus another and another. This is

592
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: one shot. Now the four will be listed. You pick

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Speaker 3: the one you think is the greatest.

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Speaker 1: And to do it, go to giants dot com slash bracket.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us on our fifth and final

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Speaker 1: edition of the Greatest Plays Bracket podcast, brought to you

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Speaker 1: by Hackensack Meridian Health. Keep getting better for Bob Papa,

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Speaker 1: I'm JOHNS Schmelk. Thank you so much for participating in this,

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00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: Giant fans and letting us know what you thought was

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Speaker 1: the greatest play in Giants' history. And again, go to

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Speaker 1: giants dot com slash Bracket to cast your final vote.

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Speaker 2: We'll see you next time, everybody,