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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast doesn't know which day of

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Speaker 1: the week it is. Welcome to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis. I

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Speaker 1: come to you from the virtual room filled with some heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Gregg Rosenthal. But is up boys? Hey now?

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Speaker 1: Championship week? Good week? I mean Greg is pumping his

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Speaker 1: to if you're not watching this on YouTube, it's quite

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Speaker 1: a sight. You gotta do sometimes give yourself the energy

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Speaker 1: and yesterday Monday. I feel like it was the first

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Speaker 1: and ninety seven days, so Phil totally refreshed, like really

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Speaker 1: miss you guys. It's uh yeah, I mean we spent

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Speaker 1: I don't think that people are wanting more. They're wanting

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Speaker 1: maybe just a little bit less. What was the vibe

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Speaker 1: Because sometimes you mark, you do bring a level of tension,

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Speaker 1: were really only a couple of Super ten tense moments,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't like a raving nightmare according to me, I

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Speaker 1: It's just sort of an energy of which I'm sure

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Speaker 1: wouldn't crack the top twenty. There are other larger things

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Speaker 1: Because mine, I would say, remains strong, too, very strong,

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Speaker 1: with periods of um icy tension that is all born

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Speaker 1: your pods for centuries to come off this. How how

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Speaker 1: are the marriages. Let's say it's fine. You know, they

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Speaker 1: Everybody always asked what was due? And you know, we

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Speaker 1: coach interviews for coordinator jobs. However, that does not apply

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Speaker 1: when there's a lateral move involved, so Sean McVeigh had

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Speaker 1: the option here to block O'Connell, which he did. Albert

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Speaker 1: Brier reported that the lines of communication are open between

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Speaker 1: the two teams on this, so there's still a chance

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Speaker 1: it ends up with O'Connell getting that job. But it's

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Speaker 1: also equally possible that the Rams are already a little

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Speaker 1: ticked off and they'll be like, you know, go fly

434
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Speaker 1: a kite, as they say, all right, other news, let's

435
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Speaker 1: keep spinning that carousel. Ricky Hollywood Arthur Smith is the

436
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: new head coach of the Atlanta Foulkins, and he will

437
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: be calling the plays UH in Atlanta. Of course, it

438
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: comes over after a really fantastic run with the Titans,

439
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 1: with that great, great Tennessee offense with Derrick Henry and

440
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Speaker 1: run Tannehill. Now he'll be tasked with maximizing the potential

441
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: the Falcons attack, which has some really big time talent

442
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: on it. It makes me think, Greg that I think

443
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 1: about it. I know Matt Ryan's getting older now and

444
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about his future, But don't

445
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 1: you kind of want to see what Arthur Smith can

446
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: do with a Matt Ryan led offense with Ridley and

447
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: Julio Jones and hopefully they you know, upgrade in the

448
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: backfield and see where that offense can go with different leadership. Yes,

449
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Speaker 1: and and I think the Falcons are planning on it.

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00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: That was my huge takeaway from Smith press conferences. You know,

451
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Speaker 1: he spoke about Matt Ryan and and and maximizing what

452
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan does well in a very definitive way. That

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Speaker 1: indicated Matt Ryan will definitely be on the team, which

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Speaker 1: is not a surprise eyes based on their contracts. Now,

455
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: maybe you know, maybe they still draft someone and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's year to year, let's see how he looks um

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Speaker 1: But to me, the way he what he did with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Dannehill, I think you have I think even at

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's age, you have as much or more to

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Speaker 1: work with with Matt Ryan. And I think that's one

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Speaker 1: of that's probably the reason they hired Arthur Smith. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. I mean, they are twenty four million over

463
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Speaker 1: the cap, they have only thirty one players under contracts,

464
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Speaker 1: so it's not the easiest of landing spots. But so

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Speaker 1: I don't think you move away from Ryan. I you know,

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Speaker 1: Arthur Smith may not be the guy that I think

467
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Speaker 1: when we when these hires happen, it's like who who

468
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Speaker 1: is really entertaining, who grabs our attention in the press conference,

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Speaker 1: And he's not that guy necessarily. I think he's you know,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of noted for his um demeanor, his intelligence. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And I do like this. I know everyone talks about

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Speaker 1: the fact that he's the son of Fred Smith, the

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Speaker 1: FedEx founder. His quote was, I've never mistaken his success

474
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Speaker 1: for minus my success, and his kind of his creator

475
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: to his players has dropped the entitlement and earn your job.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was you know a lot of this

477
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: is coach speak, but I think Arthur Smith, Um the

478
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Speaker 1: Lions were really wanted to get in a second interview

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Speaker 1: with him, So something must be going on well with

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Speaker 1: these interviews, and I think there is. Um He was

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Speaker 1: with the Titans through so many different regimes. He started

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Speaker 1: under Mike Munchak in two thousand and ten. It says

483
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Speaker 1: something when these new coaches come and they want to

484
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Speaker 1: keep you, And I thought it came in and did

485
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: an excellent job as offensive coordinator, so you know, interesting

486
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Speaker 1: higher I I want to see what he can accomplish

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Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan m I don't think greg is Gregory.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you're as high on him as

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Speaker 1: I am, but no, I just know I'm I'm high.

490
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Speaker 1: I it's it's Arthur Smith that bothers you now I have.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a strong take. I think he did

492
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Speaker 1: a really good job, so it's worth the shot. Um,

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00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: the the entitlement thing, you know, I want an offensive

494
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 1: coach and like the entitlement thing. Okay, it's like I

495
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: think this is where you talk about like coaches getting chances.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know that when normally you know, he

497
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: he started his career in part because because of his dad,

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00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: and and then he made the most of it. You know,

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Speaker 1: he worked for a team where his dad was the

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Speaker 1: minority owner. That's how he got into the NFL. Like

501
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 1: he started college football at a place where his dad

502
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: is like a huge donor. But then he proves that

503
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Speaker 1: that he's great. But it's the type of thing that

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00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: if you're if you're someone without those advantages, of course

505
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: you think about I do like that he's bringing DNPS

506
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 1: out of retirement. Looks like old Dan Pas love that guy,

507
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: and the Titans defense went down to hill pretty fast.

508
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: So as usual, these coaches are only retired until they

509
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: get like a nice next offer, right, and Arthur Smith

510
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,640
Speaker 1: obviously is their credentials based on what he did last year.

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Speaker 1: But this is a conversation that is that's continuing in

512
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Speaker 1: the league about opportunities for minority head coaches, and you're

513
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: not seeing this cycle being flooded with hires of minority coaches.

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00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: Now you know there's two laughs, Yeah, there's still more.

515
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: Enemy seems to be a strong candidate for the opening jobs.

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Speaker 1: But so far, you're you know, we're not basically singing

517
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: to the progress. The process is a total flop from

518
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: that angle so far. And we can see what happens

519
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: with the final two. But I mean all year long,

520
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: it was Eric b Enemy is gonna grab one of

521
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: these coaching vacancies. Everyone's gonna rush to to grab him,

522
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: and it's been the opposite. I don't know what's happening

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00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: um in the interview process, but I mean there is

524
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Speaker 1: like the NFL cannot love this look. I mean, they

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00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: have to have the opposite of loving it. Okay, in

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00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: other news. Okay, so this happened late last week. Robert

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Speaker 1: Sala Sala Sala Sala is the new head coach of

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets, and I obviously feel so excited

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Speaker 1: about this. He is a heavenly choice, Um, compared to

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Speaker 1: what we're dealing with. Sal, So, is that who I

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Speaker 1: think it is? I think it is. I think it

532
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: is who you think it is, the great La Sid

533
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Speaker 1: with the pipes. I mean, what a what a singer

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Speaker 1: she is. Um, you can't give Nick Shook the nickname

535
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: pike pipe when Um, she's singing that way. I mean,

536
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: we already had issues with the Nick Shook. She's pipes pluralized.

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00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: He's just the pipe. There. There is a very big difference,

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Speaker 1: and we don't have time to dig into that because

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00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: we've got to talk about the new look Jets with

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Speaker 1: Robert Sala. Um. This is a total one eighty for

541
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: the Jets of so excited. Even the photos they tweeted out. Uh,

542
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: he officially signed his contract with the Jets to become

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00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: head coach, and he's wearing the Jets hoodie and he's

544
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: got the big smile and it's like this guy looks

545
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: like he's he should have been. He's been the Jets

546
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: coach forever and ever. It just looks right, it feels right.

547
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: It's totally different than Adam Gaze, who, by the way,

548
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: report out there that he he was under some consider

549
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: duration for the Seahawks offensive coordinator job. If you ever

550
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: got him back in the same buildings, Jamal Adams, that

551
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: would be to me more exciting and making me more

552
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: happy that higher in New York. I just think there's

553
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: so much that Jets have to do to get to

554
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: get really back on track. And I am loving life

555
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: right now because it's been so long since the Jets

556
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: fans got a W. Robert sala is a W mark.

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00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: He he's a guy that we don't know if he's

558
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: gonna be able to play the guitar in the head

559
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: coach role, but damn, it feels like he's the right guy.

560
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: And and you saw Dani Rolovski at VSPN tweeted yesterday,

561
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: you know he's pumped up about the assistant coaches that

562
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: Salives bringing in, including Michae la Floor who's going to

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00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: be the O. C Uh. It just feels like they

564
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: hit on something here, and um, I can't wait to

565
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: see where it goes from here. But I think the

566
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: La Flora thing is huge because it gives your parents salads,

567
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: defense and what it will be and wants to be

568
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: with an offense that meshed really well with it in

569
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Speaker 1: San Francisco. And I think that the idea is you know,

570
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: not you know Shanahan two point oh, because this is

571
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: a very different type of coach, but some from you know,

572
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 1: some familiarity with that in some familiarity with what San

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Speaker 1: Francisco accomplished. Um, I love it. I think we've we've

574
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: talked about this on our network show. I think this

575
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: is a fascinating, fantastic higher for the Jets, and they

576
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: nailed it. I mean, you know, there were a couple

577
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: other names that came up in the Jets search that

578
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: really concerned me. Um, just because I think they needed

579
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Speaker 1: to do something so fresh and new. And I talked

580
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: about communication and that is the wave for me of

581
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: new coaches, and I think Solid brings that and look

582
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: at yeah, will he succeed right away? Um, it's a

583
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: tall order. But you've got Quentin Williams, You've got Marcus

584
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Speaker 1: May there. If they resign him, I'm sure that's a

585
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: priority for them. And I just love I love the

586
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: departure point. Um. I think that there's gonna be some

587
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: patients because everyone understands that he's inheriting something of a

588
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 1: train wreck. Except there's a lot to like with what

589
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: they can do quickly with the picks. It doesn't totally um.

590
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit of teams like Cleveland,

591
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: where the right coach came at the right time when

592
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: there were a lot of draft picks and a lot

593
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: of potential young talent on board. I think it's a

594
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: good marriage and solid me is what the Jets needed

595
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: in so many different ways. I am genuinely happy for you. Um.

596
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: I think it's you're gonna see market changes right away.

597
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: It's not that unusual when a new coach comes in

598
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: and changes everything that The Jets, to me, could be

599
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: a team that I want to get ahead of myself.

600
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: But they should have had more wins than they had

601
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: all along under Gates, and I don't think they're as

602
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: far away as some would some would think. I I

603
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: totally agree, and I I think the process is the key.

604
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 1: When was the last Jets coach, GM Perry, and that

605
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: didn't seem like it had a ton of potential for

606
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: dysfunction from minute one, maybe Rex and Mike Tannenbaum, although

607
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,719
Speaker 1: you can even look into the way that that works

608
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: through ownership and everything. Joe Douglas picked Sala. I'm sure

609
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: ownership was part of it too, but ultimately, you know,

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00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume the reports that say Douglas was leading

611
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: this are right, and that's the most important thing to me, UM,

612
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: because Douglas seems like like a solid guy who's gonna

613
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: build this organization, and Sala has a real staff. Now,

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00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: it's interesting that the forty Niners promoted Mike McDaniel. There

615
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: there's some thought, you know, to offensive coordinator that like,

616
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: you know, they sort of got to keep you know,

617
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: who knows, like they kept McDaniel and La Fleur goes

618
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: they were only going to be able to keep one

619
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: UM and everyone seems to love Michael Fleur, And I

620
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: think that offense UM at least if you don't take

621
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback number two and you don't get DeShawn Watson.

622
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 1: I don't totally buy like that they're all in on

623
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, but I do buy that they are giving

624
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: themselves the opportunity that that might be one of the

625
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: things they do is look at what Sam Donald looks

626
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: like in this offense, because I think the best he looked,

627
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 1: I thought was really his rookie year, especially for a

628
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: rookie in a different non gaze offense. And so if

629
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: if you don't right and if you don't fall in

630
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: love with just A Fields and you don't get Deshaun Watson,

631
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: is that going to be part of it? And rich

632
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: to media. ESPN reported that Sala Sala Sala and La

633
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: Floor believe that Donald has quote untapped potential. I I try,

634
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to stay kind of even killed with Donald

635
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: because I I always fall hard for the next Savior

636
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: Jets quarterback, and I know he's put a lot of

637
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: bad football on tape, So I'm trying to, like, I

638
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: really do want to see him get one more shot,

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Speaker 1: uh and do it with better coaching and hopefully a

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Speaker 1: better roster. At the same time, I would not hesitate

641
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Speaker 1: to go get de Shaun Watson if I could, But

642
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: would I rather have Donald and give him a shot

643
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: with the staff and of the draft picks to build

644
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Speaker 1: around him, or take a chance on another rookie. Man,

645
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm not really the guy to ask us. I don't

646
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 1: know how good these top process, but I know they

647
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: don't have Trevor Lawrence, which would have been a no brainer.

648
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: So I'm more into staying Sam if you don't get Watson.

649
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: But there's so much to be uncovered on that end.

650
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: It's the next big decision for the jet. But for

651
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: the first time in a long time, I feel like

652
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: you could trust the people making the decisions. I think

653
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: you can. Yeah, I wanted to throw throw in there too.

654
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: I mentioned the GM process in part, like like in

655
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Speaker 1: contrast to Atlanta, which we didn't mention, which you know,

656
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: it's fine, Arthur Blank hired Terry Fontineau, who looks like

657
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: a promising GM from New Orleans, and he hires are

658
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith, and they're going to be attached to the hip.

659
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: But I like, I like the idea that like these guys,

660
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: you know, they one chose the other. In Atlanta, it's

661
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: like they're basically strangers meeting um and the owner hired

662
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: in both and that's sort of how they're reporting through.

663
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Speaker 1: And that to me is always a little tricky. That

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Speaker 1: seems like it just create will create friction where you've

665
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Speaker 1: got both of them trying to vie for the owners

666
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: um favor, and that's we've seen this play out poorly

667
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: ten thousand times alright in other carousel news, Yes it happened.

668
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer is the new head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

669
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: He takes over a team it's coming off a one

670
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Speaker 1: and fifteen. But yes, they have the number one overall

671
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: pick and everything that comes with that. Um, we don't

672
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: know what the their GM situation there right now, but

673
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,479
Speaker 1: urban Meyer is gonna be the boss. There's no doubt

674
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Speaker 1: about that. And Scott Linahan is being interviewed for their

675
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Speaker 1: o C opening Urban Meyer Jacksonville Jaguars. Greg, is this

676
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: a home run marriage to you? No, not a home run.

677
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: I think it's exciting. You know, fans never want to

678
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Speaker 1: hear about um that their new head coaching hiring isn't

679
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: like gonna be a home run. But how how can

680
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Speaker 1: you assume a guy that's never coached in the NFL

681
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: where there's sort of nebulous who has finals say on

682
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: the roster um kind of chatter with whether it's ownership

683
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: or whether it's urban Meyer. But you know, ultimately urban

684
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: Meyer is gonna have a lot of power. And then

685
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: Scott Lenahan is the first guy that pops up as

686
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Speaker 1: the guy like you want to bring in right away.

687
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: That doesn't to me inspire a ton of um excitement.

688
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been he's always had the advantage of

689
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: having much better players than the than the opponent. That's

690
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: the whole thing of being a college coach and coming

691
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: to the pros. It's not gonna happen. It's the opposite.

692
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Speaker 1: Instead of Ohio State having way better players than every

693
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Speaker 1: single team on their schedule until they've los in the playoffs,

694
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Speaker 1: you know they they're gonna have inferior players for the

695
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Speaker 1: most part. It's gonna be close, but they're gonna you

696
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: know right now that Jacksonville Jaguars don't have great players.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what I would say for Urban Meyers that yes,

698
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Speaker 1: he had those advantages in college, and yes he won

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Speaker 1: with I mean, you know there are college coaches out

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00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: there that have a lot of talent that don't get

701
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: it done. I mean, he's been a winner. Um My

702
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: question would be how long is this going to last?

703
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Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, Urban Meyer has had some

704
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Speaker 1: health issues in the past him. I'm not really leaning

705
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: on that with this. It's just that he's also got

706
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Speaker 1: up and walked away from from jobs when I don't

707
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Speaker 1: know if, if, if he had accomplished enough there, he

708
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: felt like the challenge was elsewhere at some point, um

709
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: he said he spent you know, a long long time, um,

710
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: diagnosing and studying the NFL to determine if he thought

711
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: he could go and succeed there. I think that he

712
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: doesn't want for determination um and probably UM, a part

713
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: of him wants to show yes, Like any coach that's successfully,

714
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Speaker 1: I want to go to the NFL and show I

715
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: can do it there. Um. I think he has the

716
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Speaker 1: innate coaching talent to do it from what we've seen.

717
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Speaker 1: But to me, this is a higher that I just

718
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: sort of want to sit back and watch because I

719
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 1: don't have a huge hot take here. I I would

720
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Speaker 1: love it, love it content wise though, to be clear,

721
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Speaker 1: Like I love that he is content joining the NFL

722
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: because super good, good or bad. It's totally intriguing and

723
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: his offenses are fun to watch. You wonder if if

724
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: they go three and thirteen instead of two, one and fifteen,

725
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: and they don't have Trevor Lawrence locked and loaded. Uh,

726
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: if he takes that job, it might be to him

727
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: it's a perfect setup enter the NFL with this potential

728
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: generational talent, and we all know that the NFL highway

729
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 1: is littered with the carcasses of college hot shot coaches

730
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: who couldn't hack it. Uh my erk though, could just

731
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: as easily be an example of a college coach that

732
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: just came in and and got better. So you know

733
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,479
Speaker 1: you're excited if you're a Jaguars fan, because they've made

734
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: they made a huge splash hired head coach. They're gonna

735
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: make a huge splash draft pick at number one overall,

736
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: and now you can start to piece it together. I

737
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: wonder what happens now with your boy. By the way,

738
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: Mark does urban Meyer like the mustachioed one. Is he

739
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: in the building anymore? I mean, I don't think the

740
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: discussion is about in the building. Possibly, but as a starter,

741
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 1: I think those days have come to a close based

742
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Speaker 1: on where they sit. I mean, the London fans, assuming

743
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: they can travel next year, they gotta be excited, uh,

744
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: a little more juiced coming over or sees absolutely Trevor

745
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: Lawrence and everything. It's a game changer in Jacksonville, all right.

746
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: In other coaching carousel news, Dan Campbell, you remember Dan Campbell,

747
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: He took over years ago when Joey Fieldman got canned

748
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: in Miami and did a pretty good job in an

749
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: interim role. He then went to the Saints, where he's

750
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: been learning under the great Sean Payton. And now it's

751
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: believed that he will be the next head coach of

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00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. It's still expected to happen, because it

753
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: has been floating around now for days, but rap Sheet

754
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: reported um on Sunday that it's still expected to go down. Uh,

755
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: this is your classic mark guy that gets the locker

756
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: room behind him, leader of men. Will it work in Detroit?

757
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: This feels like a trickier one. It's really hard to

758
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: make a judgment call one way or another right off

759
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: the bat. I think we're all surprised by it, um,

760
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: I mean Chris Spielman had a lot to do with it.

761
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 1: He's been consulting with them as a special assistant on this,

762
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: and you're right. I mean, I think his qualities, according

763
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Speaker 1: to what I've read and looked into, is intense a

764
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: motivating force. Um. I thought he did a pretty good

765
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: job with that Dolphins team when he came in. I mean,

766
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: perhaps he can relate to players better than someone like

767
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: Joe philm and I wouldn't be surprised. I like the

768
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Speaker 1: fact that he's been inside the Saints system for a while.

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00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you're probably seen in absorbing things that will

770
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: be incredibly helpful. And he must have interviewed really well.

771
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean this this was not someone that a month

772
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: ago was talked about as UM one of the top candidates.

773
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: So the process um intrigues me. No, I mean, I

774
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: think again, it's like relationships here. Spielman gets this job

775
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: out of the Fox booth and kind of becomes the

776
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: key guy in in hiring the coach UM, and I

777
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: think he believed in Dan Campbell. There's just not many

778
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: coaches like this which are like the leader of men.

779
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: I'm not an offensive guru necessarily, I'm not a defensive

780
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: play caller UM and that just puts more pressure on

781
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: his high yires. And so it's it's kind of incomplete

782
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: right now. You I would love to know who their

783
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: coordinators are. Their GM, by the way, is going to

784
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: be Brad Holmes from the Rams UM. A lot of

785
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: a lot of teams kind of filling these GM hires

786
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: with guys, you know, under the radar guys UM with

787
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: good organizations that didn't necessarily do a lot of self

788
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: promotion through the media. So I actually like that. It's like,

789
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't know these guys. They've they've stayed under the radar.

790
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: Brad Homes So I'm gonna have a hot take on

791
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: Brad Holmes, on John Holmes. That's what I want to

792
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,399
Speaker 1: hear from Greg uh but any of those out there.

793
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: But it's another setup where the GM didn't didn't hire

794
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: the coach, and man, you just hope for the Lions,

795
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: like there is a little bit of like worry that,

796
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: like we want to be a tough team who plays

797
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: physical brand of football, and we're gonna bring in our

798
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: tough guy coach. I mean that is Chris Spielman, and

799
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: that I think is Dan Campbell too. So you mentioned, Yeah,

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00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: Terry Fotno in Atlanta, he's the new GM, Brad Holmes

801
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: in Detroit, George Patton in Denver from Minnesota, Yeah, taken

802
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: over for John Elway in that capacity. You have Scott

803
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: Fitterer in Carolina and then a familiar name former Carolina

804
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: two times over GM, Marty Hernie Lands in Washington. So

805
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera not going the you know, forward thinking route,

806
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: going more Hey, I know that guy. We've been getting

807
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: steak at Peter Luger's and and uh, what's it called?

808
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: What's the place in Indy that we're not going through

809
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: this year? So people can't say it's actually st Elmo

810
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: st Elmo? Uh, no cocktails at st Almo this year.

811
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: But these are old guys that have been in the

812
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: league forever. Hernie expecting Washington if it wasn't Rivera and

813
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: and their new president Jason Wright hiring Marty Hernie. I

814
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: mean to me, this is the ultimate crony ism. I

815
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: mean they make a big show of you know, some

816
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: of the some of the interviews they had for GM,

817
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: and really it was it was it was Hernie all

818
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: along um and we should say, you know, like the

819
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: league that has not had a lot of you know,

820
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: it's a league that's probably predominantly black, has not had

821
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: a lot of black executives. So Holmes and Fontano get

822
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: getting GM jobs. That is that is I think a

823
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: win um in that area. Uh this offseason alright, So

824
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: and yeah we talked about that with the new head

825
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: coach hires. Uh more underwhelming in that category. But you

826
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: still have the Eagles with the head coaching opening the

827
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: Texans still looking to Philip Post and is there anyone

828
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: else h McDaniel. Yeah, I don't know if I if

829
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 1: Man McDaniel's is agent. You can just sometimes it's like

830
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 1: the same guy has the same has all these coaches

831
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: and the Eagles. The Eagles put it this way. I've

832
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: tried to ask around a lot in this one, and

833
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he had the job in Indie. He walked

834
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: out of the hands. That wasn't all smoke. The Eagles

835
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: job is one that I don't think anyone has any clue.

836
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 1: I don't neither to be clear, obviously, but I think

837
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 1: everyone is just guessing and holding um their arms up

838
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: and like their interviewing everyone. They're interviewing Dennis Allen today

839
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: of the Saints. It's been a pretty wide search, and

840
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone has a great feel of who's

841
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: going to get that job. All right, So that's what's

842
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: happening in the news. Now, time to bring on a

843
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: very special guest who uh you know, has a habit

844
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: of going viral with some videos he's been putting together

845
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: during this great Buffalo Bills run. So we'll see you

846
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: in Buffalo in January. Be ready. It might be chilly.

847
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: There they are the iconic words now in Western New

848
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 1: York from Steve Tasker, former Buffalo Bills all pro really

849
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Speaker 1: one of the great, if not the greatest special teams

850
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: player of all time. Also the co host of One

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Speaker 1: Bills Live on w g R Sports Radio five fifty

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Speaker 1: and MSG. Now we welcome him for the first time

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Speaker 1: to be around the NFL Podcast. I see, Steve, you

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Speaker 1: you've got T shirts with that catchphrase. I mean, you've

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00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: really built You're building an empire over there. Well, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm in. I'm employed by the club, so I

857
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: don't get anything out of it, man, you know, you know,

858
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: and these tough financial times, we all have to pitch

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00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: in to help the you know, the businesses we work

860
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,279
Speaker 1: for to do it. So, yeah, the Bills are doing fine.

861
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: But that, yeah, that took on a life of its own,

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00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: no question, and you know how it is. The fun

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00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: part about it was watching people's reaction to the to

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Speaker 1: the hype video. So it's been pretty cool to see it.

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Speaker 1: Even you know, I was on the hook for buying, like,

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00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five of those T shirts and sending

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Speaker 1: them around. I got a text from Bruce Bruce just

868
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 1: textually goes, hey, bro, he goes, I need one of

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Speaker 1: every size and every extra large. So I did it.

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00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: I sent him to him. So there you go something

871
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: that my mother always says, no good deed goes unpunished.

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00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: You know, you try to get behind your former team. Uh, Steve,

873
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: this is obviously such an exciting, amazing time for the Bills,

874
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like where we are now

875
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: in one there's like a romantic viewpoint of your old

876
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: Bills team and people look back at those teams. Uh,

877
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: so successful but fell short of the mountaintop, and now

878
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: here the Bills finally are back in position to get

879
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: back to the mountaintop. What's the vibe been like up

880
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: there in Western New York during this special time for

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00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: the Bills. Well, it's been muted because of the pandemic.

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00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: You know that New York States probably one of the

883
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: most lockdown states around in the in the Union, right,

884
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: so uh, it's been really hard to congregate, uh and

885
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Speaker 1: share it with the Bills fans that you know are

886
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: so prominent and so part of the fabric up here.

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00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: So uh, in that way, it's been a little muted,

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00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: but there's no doubt Uh, in every household, in every business, everybody,

889
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 1: it's all they're all sold out and bought into this team.

890
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: And I think this is It's interesting too because in

891
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: the years leading up to this, and it was so

892
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: long between great teams, people forgot that when you get

893
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: to the n f C championship team, you kind of

894
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 1: live in that place where, gosh, I hope our team

895
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: does good and you know, I you know, I hope

896
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 1: they play well. I hope they don't, you know, mess

897
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Speaker 1: this up, or I hope the other team plays bad

898
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: so we can win. You forget that to get to

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Speaker 1: the FC championship game, your team is really good. You

900
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: know yet that your team has really gotta be good

901
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 1: to get there. Not only gotta be talented, they've gotta

902
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: be deep, they've gotta be well coached. You don't get

903
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: to the championship game on a fluke. This is a

904
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: really good football team and they're playing really well. They

905
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 1: got some great players. Uh. You know, got a wide

906
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: receiver that is an all time and had an all

907
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Speaker 1: time great franchise season. Uh, You've got a quarterback that

908
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: played at an elite level at all year, and you've

909
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: got a defense that's playing better and better, and finally

910
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: now is and probably one of the top four or

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00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: five defenses in the league at any you know, in

912
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: these last couple of weeks, three or four weeks, so

913
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Speaker 1: you know, you're hitting on all cylinders right now. It's

914
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Speaker 1: just not that this had this you know, great time

915
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Speaker 1: and it's a roller coaster. He just kind of turned

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Speaker 1: up in the championship game. This is a really good

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Speaker 1: football team. And when you get to this point, you've

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Speaker 1: got to be thinking that you're good enough to win

919
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. And I think a lot of people

920
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Speaker 1: here in Western New York are thinking that, Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons I love this final four. I

922
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Speaker 1: feel like none of them are heavy favorites. All of

923
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Speaker 1: them are totally good enough to win the Super Bowl.

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00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: We have to find out what happens. You've watched Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen mature, you know you probably know him, uh well,

926
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Speaker 1: after these last few years. He seems like a guy

927
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Speaker 1: who who like registers what went wrong and and goes

928
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Speaker 1: about fixing it. And I'm wondering how you think he's

929
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Speaker 1: processing last week, um, a game plan that they put

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Speaker 1: together in Baltimore where they actually slowed down the Bill's

931
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 1: offense pretty well in the first half. They made some adjustments,

932
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: played better in the second half. How do you think

933
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Speaker 1: like he's looking at that performance and then you know,

934
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Speaker 1: moving forward to what the Chiefs are gonna try to

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Speaker 1: do to him. It's a really interesting thought because Josh

936
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Speaker 1: has really shown the knack for correcting mistakes quickly. Um.

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Speaker 1: That's been his hallmark as a quarterback, even early on

938
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Speaker 1: when he was so raw and he was way down

939
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Speaker 1: the ladder of you know, being a productive NFL quarterback,

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Speaker 1: even week to week, back when he had so far

941
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Speaker 1: to go to become even a petitive quarterback. Week to week,

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Speaker 1: you could see him making adjustments in his game. He'd

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Speaker 1: throw the football away when one year we he'd try

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Speaker 1: to force it in and throw an interception. He would

945
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Speaker 1: he would slide or run out of bounds instead of

946
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Speaker 1: taking a big hit. He was doing things better now.

947
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Speaker 1: Certainly it was in fits and starts, and sometimes he

948
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Speaker 1: would regress and have a bad play here or there.

949
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: But the bad plays and those crazy plays that you know,

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00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: the kind of a punch line of a joke for

951
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,560
Speaker 1: his play in general, those plays became fewer and fewer,

952
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: and further and further far between and the other end

953
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: of the spectrum, the good plays became more and more

954
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 1: prominent and more and more consistent, and that kept coming

955
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: all the way throughout last year and certainly this year

956
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Speaker 1: when he hit the field with Steph Digs in the mix,

957
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,359
Speaker 1: with uh Gabriel Davis in the mix, and they went

958
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 1: four wide early in this season, way more than anybody

959
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: else in the league. And man, oh man, the step

960
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: he took then was amazing. Um so all the little

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Speaker 1: increments he he took and growth he had this last offseason,

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Speaker 1: which was totally off the radar because of the lack

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00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: of off season lack of preseason games. Nobody saw it

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Speaker 1: except the coaching staff and his teammates when they unveiled

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Speaker 1: that in Week one against the Jets, and then in

966
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Speaker 1: a week two against the Dolphins, and in week three

967
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: against the Raiders, and week four against the Rams, they

968
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Speaker 1: go four and oh and they're lightening it up and

969
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: he actually had a couple of three hundred yard days

970
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: and a four hundred yard day. It was like, wow,

971
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: it was really amazing, and it's been that way for

972
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Speaker 1: the entire year. You could see it coming and you

973
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: knew in some sort of fantasy football where he had

974
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Speaker 1: a big top end, He had a big ceiling because

975
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Speaker 1: of his physical attributes and his intelligence and his hard

976
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: work ethic. But you didn't think it was gonna go

977
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Speaker 1: to that this level from where it was even at

978
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 1: the end of last season, and yet here it is.

979
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: It's well, you know, looking at the building of this

980
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 1: team and I and I picked up football in the

981
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: mid eighties, and you know, I remember the Bills um

982
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Speaker 1: as they started to grow in to an a f

983
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: C superpower. You were there at the very beginning of that.

984
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,799
Speaker 1: And I went back and looked at the roster from

985
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: a week one UM two thousand seventeen when Sean McDermott

986
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 1: coached his first game. It was Tyrod Taylor, um Le,

987
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: Shawn McCoy, and Mike Tilbert. In the backfield Jordan Matthews.

988
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: The team's leading receivers were z A Jones and Deonte Thompson.

989
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: And those were the receivers. It was Charles Clay and

990
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: the running backs that all the catches. They were such

991
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,439
Speaker 1: a limited different offense, and they had so much work

992
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: to do, and they've been so intentional and rapid I

993
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: think in building this team to what it is in

994
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: such a quick fashion. Uh. I mean that's the gap

995
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 1: between these long bills successful periods. What is your thought

996
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: of sort of Brandon being and Sean McDermott and what

997
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: just their overall power to build this this team up

998
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: so quickly. Yeah, it's interesting because the NFL, so you

999
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: guys know, it's so hard to win and win consistently

1000
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,240
Speaker 1: because there are so many levels of complexity about every

1001
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: aspect of the game. Offensively, you gotta have the right tools.

1002
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,240
Speaker 1: You gotta have the right offensive line, the right quarterback,

1003
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: The right weapons are around the quarterback to accentuate his gifts.

1004
00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 1: You gotta have a defense that's loaded with athletes and

1005
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 1: and some experience, and a good court. You gotta have coordinators.

1006
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: You gotta have personnel people who are on the same

1007
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: page and giving you the players that fit your scheme.

1008
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: You gotta go the draft, you gotta go to combat.

1009
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: All that stuff is mixed into this and and this team.

1010
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: The thing I know about what they built this team

1011
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: is this and one thing I noticed as they as

1012
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: they got along with it, there's a couple of things.

1013
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: They were never afraid to cut loose of a really

1014
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: good player if he didn't fit them. Uh, Marcel Darius,

1015
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, uh Ron dar Um Darby the defensive back

1016
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: of guys of this nature you know that just didn't

1017
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: fit perfectly. They got rid of them, and in fact,

1018
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: right before the start of the two thousand eighteen or

1019
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: seventeen season, they got accused of tanking and and ultimately

1020
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs Rod Taylor at quarterback. That's how

1021
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 1: good this staff is. Now. The other thing that I've noticed,

1022
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 1: not only were they not willing, you know, too willing

1023
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 1: to part with good players, they never strayed outside their plan.

1024
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: Levian Bell certainly they kicked the tires on him, and

1025
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: Tom and and Antonio Brown, certainly they kicked the tires

1026
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: and checked it out. None of those guys fit, uh

1027
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: none of the guys that the shiny, high priced free

1028
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: agents kind of wavered them away from their philosophy of

1029
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: getting players who were middle of the road free agents,

1030
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: I think, but fit their system and fit it well,

1031
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: and had the right temperament and the right attitude and

1032
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: the right personality and had the right mindset. And they

1033
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 1: were also big in this not they got those guys,

1034
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: and plus they brought a lot of guys in on

1035
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: one year prove it deals. They paid them well, but

1036
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: they were only tied up for one year, and you

1037
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: get those guys, they're really highly motivated to get another contract,

1038
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: if not from the Bills, from somebody else. They got

1039
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: a lot of guys like that that are highly motivated

1040
00:53:57,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: to play well and play well throughout the season. So

1041
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: all those things put together, it is kind of their philosophy.

1042
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: And to their credit, they never wayward from that commitment,

1043
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 1: and I think that sometimes is the hardest thing to

1044
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: do for an organization. They've become a model for other

1045
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: teams UH to study. Before we say goodbye, Steve, I

1046
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: just wanna talk about what they need to do to

1047
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: win this weekend an arrowhead, because as good as the

1048
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: Bills have been and they are one Heil Murray away

1049
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: from a twelve game winning streak, in these two playoff wins,

1050
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: they've been outgamed yardage wise, and they've they've won because

1051
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: they've made the big plays in the crucial spots to

1052
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: carry on and get to this point. But you get

1053
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: the feeling they're probably gonna have to deliver that a

1054
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 1: game on offense to get past Patrick Mahomes if indeed

1055
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: Mahomes on the field for the Chiefs. Do you see

1056
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: that you see a shootout here coming up? Or do

1057
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: you think Leslie Fraser coming off a great performance with

1058
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: that defense can keep Kansas City and Check. I think

1059
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 1: the building, I don't know if you keep Kansas City

1060
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 1: and Check, I don't think. I don't think it'll be

1061
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: if it's a thirty point game, it will be a

1062
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: third point game on both sides. I think it's gonna

1063
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: be more like the first game they played, where the

1064
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 1: winner will be in the mid to high twenties, maybe

1065
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,120
Speaker 1: score thirty thirty one, but the other guy, the other

1066
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: team will be right there too. I think this is

1067
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: gonna be a game where you gotta keep pace, no

1068
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: question about it. You gotta stay with the Chiefs. And

1069
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: if you've got a defense that can make enough plays,

1070
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: and I think that's what this Bill's defense can do,

1071
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 1: is is make some enough plays to give maybe get

1072
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: the Chiefs off the field offensively a couple of unexpected

1073
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: times and an unexpected ways, maybe the turnovers, or maybe

1074
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: get a lucky break on a third and eight or

1075
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: something to get a knockdown pass or something like that.

1076
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 1: Get a couple of plays like that to give Josh

1077
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:41,240
Speaker 1: Allen a couple of extra possessions, and certainly the Bills

1078
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: have to play better offensively than they did the first

1079
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: time around. Josh threw for like two hundred and six

1080
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: yards against the Chiefs the last time they played in

1081
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: Week six. Certainly they weren't their best. John Brown was

1082
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: not a factor. He was ailing. Their offensive line had

1083
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: been shuffling every single week during that up to that

1084
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: point of the season. Um, their guards and their center

1085
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: were never set in stone. Uh So now they've got

1086
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: that kind of under control. John Feliciano, their great guard

1087
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: is in there and has been in there for a

1088
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: while now. They they were a little unsettled up front

1089
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: in that game. But still, Josh Allen's gotta play better.

1090
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 1: He's got to play well. They've got to score points

1091
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: against his Chiefs team. Um, I think they can do it.

1092
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to play better offensively and more

1093
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: consistently offensively than they did in the first two weeks

1094
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, no question about it. But I think

1095
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: this game both teams their defense are gonna play well

1096
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 1: enough to be have respectable outings against these offenses, which

1097
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: means in this day and age, mid twenties to low

1098
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: thirties for these teams, and I think that's where this

1099
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be. And I and look for the Bills

1100
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: to put together enough of a performance where it's gonna

1101
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 1: be in doubt. Certainly the Chiefs if everybody's playing their best,

1102
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,280
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are maybe a better team than the Bills.

1103
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: But the Bills are gonna play well enough to to

1104
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: put it in doubt late in this game and have

1105
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: a chance to win it. Uh, that's their modus operandi.

1106
00:56:58,400 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 1: And then it will be come down. It'll come down

1107
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: to the last part of the game where either Josh

1108
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: Allen the offense and Steph Diggs are gonna have to

1109
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: make a play or Patrick Mahomes and their crew were

1110
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna have to make a play to win the game. Well,

1111
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: I know you got a head to a car commercial appearance.

1112
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're getting a lot of offers because you know,

1113
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: we heard the audio at first, but it was really

1114
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: the the cigar smoking and the mean mugging into the hymn.

1115
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: It was the acting that Tasker delivered in that hype video.

1116
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: That's gotta be getting your age and a lot of

1117
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: offers lately. Yeah, you know, I'm trying hey, down, I

1118
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: haven't left my house. I come into show and I

1119
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: go home. I haven't left the house in like ten months.

1120
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: I I put an alarm on my wife, so if

1121
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: she moves, I hear because I'm afraid she's gonna kill

1122
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 1: me in my sleep. So you know that kind of thing.

1123
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: We're we're buttoned up tight here in New York. Everybody's

1124
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: just aching for a chance for the screws to get

1125
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: loosened a little bit so we can get out, go

1126
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: to dinner, go out to movies, you know, go out

1127
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: to a bar for a beer. Everybody's buttoned up hid here.

1128
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: So every time I chance to get a leave home

1129
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: just for work, I'm absolutely out the door to do it.

1130
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: And it is it's a shame what you said at

1131
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: the top, that it is a little more muted because

1132
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: where we are in the world. But we won't be

1133
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 1: here forever. Steve Tasker will be a legend forever up

1134
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: there in Western New York, and and one day he'll

1135
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: be in Canton too, if the football gods have their say. Steve,

1136
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, and enjoy the

1137
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: football this weekend. Thank you guys, and there you go.

1138
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker did fall short. I mentioned the Hall of Fame. Uh,

1139
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: he was a semifinalist and he's been that several times

1140
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: through the years, but did not get selected to go

1141
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: forward for the final voting. But Mark, I know you

1142
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 1: love those old Bills teams as many people do. Tasker

1143
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 1: was a glue guy. Yeah, he's he's seen a tough

1144
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: category to to to get in. I love that he's

1145
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: been recognized to the extent he has in terms of

1146
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: getting through portions of the Hall of Fame process, and

1147
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: maybe it will happen. But I mean watching those Bills teams, Um,

1148
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 1: there is a real reason that he resonates with people

1149
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: still because he was a heart and soul member and

1150
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: he just had so many plays and every you know,

1151
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: in big moments, and he he just kind of was

1152
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: the classic. I don't think that you know, Bill Belichick

1153
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: loves special teams and he's had his guys that have

1154
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 1: been special teams guys forever. Um. I mean the task

1155
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: is one of the early imprints of that where maybe

1156
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: he gets flushed out in roster because he's not, you know,

1157
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: a contributing wide receiver. He was everything the Buffalo Bills

1158
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: were back then and totally an engaging watchable UM athlete

1159
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: isn't like a famous NFL Films clip where he goes

1160
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: up for a ball then lands like straight on his helmet,

1161
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: like standing that's done. Yeah, but um, but you know what,

1162
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: relatively short white guy Don beebe H. I don't know

1163
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 1: if he would have been allowed. You know that what

1164
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 1: happened with his head in his neck off flipping him

1165
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: was He's in the blue tent for roughly three weeks

1166
00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: of that, right. Connor or made a good point, by

1167
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: the way, on that before we say goodbye Connor, who

1168
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: we love and it's over at s I now wrote

1169
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 1: about it that nobody really even gave it a second thought.

1170
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: When Lamar Jackson, the reigning m v P, and Patrick

1171
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: Mahomes the m v P before Lamar and the reigning

1172
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP, both suffer head injuries and they disappear

1173
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: from the divisional playoffs like in the old days, those

1174
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: dudes are taking smelling salts and they're back on the

1175
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: field getting punished some more, trying to get their team

1176
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: to the next round. But as football fans and you

1177
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: gotta I give the league credit for this as well.

1178
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: They have made progress in installing a culture to protect

1179
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: these guys even when they need to be protected from themselves.

1180
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: So that is that was a big step forward that

1181
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: we saw this weekend. There's an interview with Troy ack

1182
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: When where he talks about um having literally no memory

1183
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: of one of the NFC Championship games he was in.

1184
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: That's no memory of it. That's so scary, unbelievable. UM.

1185
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: All right, so what's coming up this week Thursday? It

1186
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: is the Championship Sunday Preview and UH, I don't know,

1187
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: maybe we'll line up some guests for that show too,

1188
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: because that's gonna be a lot of fun, uh talking

1189
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: about those two games that will decide who plays in

1190
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. On Friday. We will have a completely separate,

1191
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: UH Championship preview episode on television on NFL Network, So

1192
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: you can catch that at six pm Eastern three pm

1193
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: Pacific on Friday and also overseas game Pass International. UH,

1194
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: you should have access to our program from there. And

1195
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: then of course Sunday Night, the Flagship Show, when you

1196
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: know what's gonna happen there we break it all down.

1197
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: And it is sad because in the past we do

1198
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:43,920
Speaker 1: that show and then you know we'd be in the

1199
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 1: studio for a couple more days, then we'll be packing

1200
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 1: up and heading uh to the Super Bowl. This is

1201
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: the first year in a decade that that's not happening.

1202
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:55,120
Speaker 1: But still look forward to um covering the games and

1203
01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: talking about them with you boys and hopefully Chris Wesley

1204
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: as well. And then you know, I know that it

1205
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: thinks the Browns aren't there, but like a little less

1206
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 1: pressure and tension at least that was my that's my

1207
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: experience when the Patriots loses, at least like I'm enjoying

1208
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: this being like, hey, I could just watch some football

1209
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 1: on you guys. Cann't be more different, Um in a

1210
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: lot of ways, But as football fans, I don't think

1211
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,040
Speaker 1: it's an apples to apples comparison. Yeah, I don't like,

1212
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel what you're feeling on that front, Greg,

1213
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: But Um, I will say that it kind of it

1214
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 1: took a little bit of the heat off a little

1215
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: I kind of you know, it's been a lot of

1216
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 1: football lately, so yeah, as you know, Mark Um, from

1217
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: the years of Brown's toil before they put it together,

1218
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: it does take us some of the heat off. Sundays

1219
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: in general during the season when your team sucks so

1220
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: hard that there's nothing on the line. Ever, so you

1221
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: don't you don't have that. I'm watching my favorite team

1222
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 1: and hoping their season progresses in a good direction while

1223
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: also trying to do my job. It's been coast time

1224
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: for for the old Zeuser during the Adam Gates era,

1225
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: so my job could get more difficult and hopefully will

1226
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: starting next to fall. All right, good stuff, sollelujah, baby,

1227
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: We'll be back, like I said on Thursday, so tune in.

1228
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanss signing off for Quiet Storm, the

1229
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:14,080
Speaker 1: old Boss, Ricky Hollywood and the great Steve Task. How

1230
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: about that? Till heellujah, so llelujah, sollelujah, sollelujah. So so helloyal,

1231
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: so hell lawyer, soallluaria, soalllaria Souia