1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,000 Speaker 1: You know when I used to say that l word, 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: that legacy work to my kids. I remember those times 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: that used to laugh at me, like Dad, you always 4 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: say that. I'm like, no, y'all don't realize how important 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: it is. If it was the end right now, God forbid. 6 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: I just want people to be like, hey, man, this 7 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: man he helped push it forward in this great city, 8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: the city that influences everything and everybody worldwide, that I 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: had my hands and I had my footprint in trench 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: firmly intrenched and everything that's culturally right, and I guess 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 1: wrong about Atlanta. 12 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 2: Here, everybody, welcome to another episode of Butter Tim. You host, 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 2: Brandon Butler. Found Incy your BUTTERYTL, And today we got 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: a legend. We got somebody legendary. 15 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: Messtop legendary in the field, the one, the only Big 16 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: Jerry Clark aka Legendary Jerry, Sir? How you doing the one? 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: And know that I am great? I would think, Look, 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: we've been talking about me coming on this show for 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: a while when you first, and I just want to 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: tell you one thing. I appreciate you having me. Secondly, 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm proud of you, man, because I remember you talking 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: about this a while ago and to see it to 23 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: come to fruition. That's dope, man, Hey, man, look, Jerry, 24 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. No better person on the East Side 25 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: for Dan high Stone mind decay to do it. Couldn't 26 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: happen to nobody better, brother. 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 2: Jerry Brother, I appreciate you, man. You know what, man, 28 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: I was. I was thinking back because I knew who 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: you were. Obviously, you know, everybody know Big Jerry Clark. 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: You ain't know who the hell I was. 31 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: I didn't, so no, you know what. I actually went 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: and looked it up to be totally honest with you. 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: Normally I go on here and I pull up you know, 34 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 1: I pulled up matter of fact, this, I'm. 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: Gonna read this first. I asked chat cheap et to 36 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: give me Jerry Clark's bio real quick. This is what 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: this what chat cheap et said about you. 38 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm okay, I want. I'm anxious to hear this. 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 2: Jerry Clark, wildly known as Big Jerry Clark or Legendary Jerry, 40 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: is a long time figure in Atlanta's music scene. Originally 41 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: from Caigo, he made his mark in Atlanta starting in 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: the early nineties. He began as an intern at Relativity 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 2: Records and went on to hold senior roles at major 44 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: labels such as SOSO, Deaf Deaf Jam, Universal Music, where 45 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: he worked with artists like Killer Mike, GZ, Bone, Thugs 46 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: and Harmony, eight Ball, MJG, three six, Mafia, and many more. 47 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 2: In addition to his industry work, Jerry Clark hosts the 48 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: story Time with Legendary Jerry podcast, produced in partnership with 49 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: iHeart Podcast, and the show features conversations with Southern rap artists, executives, 50 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: and many more offered insights on the games evolution. Clark 51 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: is also is also involved in education, serving as a 52 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: professor at Clarke Atlanta University. His contributions to Atlanta's culture 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 2: have been recognized with an official Legendary Jerry Clark Day 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: declared by the city. I didn't know they named Park 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 2: Atlanta University after you just. 56 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: Start that sound good? Thank you, Chad GB did. Thank 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: you for RENA because I'm saying here it was probably 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: mostly correct. Well, I know there's a lot that it 59 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: could have probably put in there, man, you know, but 60 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: it was that sounded pretty good. Damn. What we need 61 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: to tell my man daddy, y'all, but y'all create a 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: home y'all did. When y'all laid now, y'all ain't know 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: y'all was creating it. They did something. Now, what I 64 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: did is I went back because I said, you know, 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: when you first hit me, I remember now now and 66 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking back when I first hit you. I hit 67 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: you on Butter. 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 2: I was starting this thing called butter ATL and I 69 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 2: remember Ryan Cameron would always talk about. 70 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: Big Jerry Clark. And so one day I just out 71 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: was in blue. I was like, you go to Jesus. 72 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: I said, you know, I just literally I just reached 73 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 2: out cold dim. I remember it was like, yo, man, 74 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: whoop the woop. Name is Brandon building this thing? 75 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: You hit me back? He was like, yeah, I love 76 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: the connects. I sent you an email. Let me read 77 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: you the email that I sent you. I went and 78 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: found it. This email was sent on April twenty second, 79 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, right after my birthday. Right after my birthday. 80 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: Hi Jerry, nice to meet you. My name is Brandon 81 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: Butler and I'm the executive director for butter ATL. I 82 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: received your email vr DM would love to connect with you. 83 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: My goal was to build Butter into a platform to 84 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: show some CRUs that people in Atlanta can create and 85 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: tell their own stories. I've been around Atlanta my whole life, 86 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: like working in radio, TV, and we'd love to chat 87 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: about how we could potentially work together. If you like 88 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: to connect, please let me know. And you actually hit 89 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: me back, I mean, and you was like great to meet, 90 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: yourse litt let's set something up. 91 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: And I remember you came to my office. I sure did. 92 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: I remember. 93 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 2: We chopped it up and we've been building ever since then. 94 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: Then that was six damn years ago. Damn just off 95 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: a DM, just off a DM. 96 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: Whoa. And look, let me tell you when you when 97 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: you first hit me. And you can attest to this 98 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: because I told you this in person. When I came 99 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: and met you, I was so blown away with some 100 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: of the things that you were doing with butter atl Man. 101 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: I was like, bro, remember, I was like, you got 102 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: some dope shit going on, man, and the masses they 103 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: need to know. Yeah, they need to know. So to 104 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: see you in those six years and what you created, 105 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: and hey man, it's once again I got to give 106 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: your props and kudos to you because hey, bro, you 107 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: created some shit. Man. Hey man, I appreciate it. Man, 108 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: you create this wine. I'm glad I was able, you know, 109 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: put a little, you know, a little little something into 110 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: the ship, you know what I mean, just off of DM. 111 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: Just the ladies, y'all hear that. Y'all better reply back 112 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: to not for me, I'm saying, but y'all already ply back. 113 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: You never know, you don't know what happened in that DM. Jerry, 114 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: look man, look obviously, bre You've been around the scene, yeah, 115 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: for a long time, you know, working in Atlanta, just 116 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: helping build a lot of the culture and a lot 117 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: of the music scene. It just so much like what 118 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: do you remember most when you kind of think back 119 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: to the nineties and what you thought, like, what was 120 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: that energy like in Atlanta? 121 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Mm hm, I'm sitting here thinking about I miss it, right, 122 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: and I missed that energy. I missed the camaraderie of 123 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta during those days when you had Dallas Sauceton and 124 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: the JDS and Damn Little Face Records and what Rico 125 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: A way rest in peace to my brother Rico and 126 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: what the just the whole energy of the city and 127 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: you could just feel something special brewing. You could feel 128 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: it brewing. I remember going to an album release party 129 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: for Goodie Mob and this was at the outcast had 130 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: popped and you know, and just seeing all these different 131 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: you know, and then and like I say that, I've 132 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: told people this all the time, Like when I saw 133 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: Dallas Dallas, I don't think Dallas Austin gets enough props 134 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: and respect for what he's you know, the lane that 135 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 1: he helped create early with him and ABC and being. 136 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean cause the first time I met Madonna and 137 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: and folks like that was was through Dallas, like come 138 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: on back like so to see what he was doing 139 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: from a production standpoint and with his label, with Rowdy 140 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: and the executives that came from there. And then like 141 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: I said, with JD and LA and Babyface, what they did, Man, 142 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: it was the energy was Oh man, I miss it, Man, 143 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: I miss it in that energy state. And I'm not 144 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm not saying we still don't have that that type 145 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: energy in the city, but Brian and it's it's something 146 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: to missing. Now, Yeah, there's something missing, and I can't 147 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: pinpoint exactly what it is, but it's missing. But it 148 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: was nothing like nothing like that night. And then just 149 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: overall the music in the South and the and just 150 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: across the country, I felt like was the heyday of 151 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: like I hear a lot of people say, Man, nineties 152 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: R and B was untouched. It was it was it 153 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: was just something about that time. But being here in 154 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: this city it was special. Man, it was a special time. 155 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: And Man, I'm sitting here reminiscing. Man, you got me, 156 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: but I knew coming on buttonmics it was go. I 157 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: was Man, I miss it, man. 158 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: And man, look it's interesting too because get to your point, like, 159 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: there were so many things that happened during that time. 160 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: There were so many people that created you know, I 161 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 2: call it kind of like the soundtrack of a lot 162 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: of our lives. 163 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: You know. 164 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: I remember, you know, I had one of my first jobs, 165 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 2: and I you know, I used to ride the bus 166 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: and I remember listening to that uh that Goodie Mob 167 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: thought process on tape, you know what I'm saying, Like, 168 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 2: I remember. 169 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: Been a soul ful albums, one of the greatest albums over. 170 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: I remember, I remember I bought the Outcast first single, 171 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 2: Player's Ball, the single. You know what I'm saying, When 172 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: you sell singles on tape, I got that thing from 173 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: Blockbuster Music, you know what I mean, And like was 174 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: bumping that stuff and that's why I became exposed outcasts, 175 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: and I just think about all these moments and so 176 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: with you again, just kind of being around during that time. 177 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: But I think it was also really interesting though. 178 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: It was like you didn't make music though you were 179 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: in the business, but you still build relationships, Like how 180 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 2: did you kind of carve out a lane for yourself 181 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: while all this amazing stuff was going on, Because in 182 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,719 Speaker 2: the midst of it, I mean, it was dope, but 183 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: I don't think even looking at that moment, maybe nobody 184 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 2: knew how big and how influential really was going to be. 185 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: We didn't realize at the time when we were in it. 186 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: But the piggyback off something you just said. And I 187 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: stressed this to people all the time, people coming up 188 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: in the business, my students at CAU, at Kennesaus State, 189 00:08:53,480 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: my children. It's all about relationships, building relationships. And the 190 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: way I came into the business was that the lowest 191 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: lowest lowest on the totem pole, which was street promotions. 192 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: M But and for those who don't know street promotions, 193 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: we were the ones the hand to hand giving out 194 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: snippet tapes and we were in the clubs giving vinyl 195 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: to the DJs. We were giving our flyers, hand and 196 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: hand of the clubs. We was that we were that 197 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: guerrilla marketing aspect of the industry. And I am grateful 198 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: that I came in on that end because I was 199 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: able to learn so much. Because you think about street 200 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: promoters we had We had to talk to retailers, which 201 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: is now obsolete. We had to go in and talk 202 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: to the Jazz of the ear Wax and the jay 203 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: and the Tobagos of the world. You know, we had 204 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: to go develop those relationships. Being at radio, which was 205 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: you know here in Atlanta, it wasn't really no wrap 206 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: until it was played after you know, six o'clock. Yeah, so, 207 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: but you know, we had w RFG and we had 208 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: Georgia State Radio that was breaking a lot of records. 209 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: So it al was about establishing those relationships. And like 210 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: I say, even though it was the lowest on the 211 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: totem pole, coming up through the street promotion ranks is 212 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: where I really was able to establish my name, my face, 213 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: and who I was on the scene early. And think 214 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: about it, the timing couldn't have been more perfect, because 215 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: you talk about early mid nineties here in Atlanta, as 216 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: our scene was starting to take off here. I am 217 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: giving our flyers and mixtapes for Bone Thugs and Harmony 218 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: and Easy E and Fat Joe and the Beating Uts, 219 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, Relativity, Rufles. Yeah, So the timing, it couldn't 220 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: have been better for me as far as coming in 221 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: the industry and then it's something funny. And this is 222 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of off subject a little bit, but I remember 223 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: there was a Bone Thugs tour that I was on, 224 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: and we all know how big Bone Thugs was at 225 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: that time. An Outcast was opening up. They were to 226 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: open and act on tour, and I remember here in Atlanta. 227 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: Here in Atlanta, Outcast was performing. They was opening up, 228 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: and Folks was throwing we was handing out snippet tapes 229 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: and cats while they was performing, was throwing the tapes, 230 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: throwing them like, man, this country as she get this 231 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: bullshit out of here and now look rock and roll 232 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,679 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, bro 233 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: And that was going on here in at last, So 234 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: that goes to show you at first there was, you know, 235 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: a lack of love for arguably the greatest rap group 236 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: of all the time here in this city. I'll never 237 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: forget man Brandon. Folks was throwing those throwing snippet tape 238 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: mate this country as shit. 239 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,719 Speaker 2: It's crazy too, because that was like really you know, 240 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: yeah kind of in the heyday of like Northern rapp 241 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 2: and yeah, you know, I always kind of joke and say, 242 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: like everybody you know from North Carolina, I thought they 243 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 2: were from New York, you know what I'm saying, A 244 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 2: thought that was and running around and you know, you 245 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 2: had all the all the different groups out of the year. 246 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 2: And even then, like at the same time too, the 247 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 2: West Coast was kind of bubbling and popping, and so 248 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: people didn't really know what kind of understand what this 249 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: new Southern sound was. 250 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: I remember when Hot, well it was Hot ninety seven five, 251 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: when when they first came on the scene. It took 252 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: for folks like big Oomp and Oop Camp and them 253 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: to like really be like, yo, bro, y'all this the 254 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: A man, y'all. It sounded like some New York ship. 255 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:28,719 Speaker 2: Man. 256 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: It was like a New York state, which, in their defense, 257 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that was what was. You know, like you 258 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: say New York and then you know, snooping all the 259 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: West coasts. But here in the A, We're like hold 260 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: on now, man, I mean, you know, because at that 261 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,319 Speaker 1: time when they came on the scene, when they when 262 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: the station launched, I mean, you know, organized noise, goodie mob, 263 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 1: outcast and JD. They was already doing their things. So 264 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: you got to open them like we independent, man, like 265 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: we come on, man, loosen y'all, gott to loosen up. 266 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: And then I remember when Hot finally started embracing a 267 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: lot of the Southern y But at first they would 268 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: sound like some New York. Yeah. 269 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: I remember when Hot dropped though they literally played music 270 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: like NonStop. There were no commercials. Yeah, the majority of 271 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: some New York Yeah, New York stuff. You know what 272 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: I'm saying, maybe get a mix here and there. And 273 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: then slowly but surely started getting personalities on that as 274 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: far as interesting too, like watching getting like the Chris 275 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 2: Love of Lovers and like you know all those It 276 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: became Ludacris now like all these people that came through. 277 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: They created them. Yeah, shot the Nabs too. Man. 278 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: I was talking to him the other day, man, like, 279 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: look you with all these artists and you've seen these 280 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: people kind of come up, Like, what do you think 281 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: is the the common thread that you've seen great artists 282 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 2: become like great brands. 283 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: I look at the artists, and you mean just from Atlanta. 284 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: Just perierod this in general, like especially with the ones 285 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: you've worked because you've been so close to them and 286 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: you've seen. 287 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: Recreating and re inventing themselves and not just staying in 288 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: one space in one lane like I mean. Of course, 289 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: we saw Andre three thousand recently at the met Gallop, 290 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna use him as an example or 291 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: how he is constantly recreating himself and even with like 292 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: my friend, my homie Killer Mike another he recreated himself 293 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: from the beginning when I first met him and he 294 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: was signed to Quemini Records, to going from that to 295 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: being Run the Jewels to I mean, constantly reinventing and 296 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: recreating themselves is a must for your brand, you know, 297 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: and your cache to constantly grow and blow. Like I say, 298 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna stay on to kill a Mike. Then 299 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: he he's the probably the greatest and best example of that. 300 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at look at what Killer 301 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: has done man from the Pledge of Allegiance mixtapes to 302 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: a monster Monster Run the Jewels is going out with 303 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: wul Tang class and then Killer comes back and does 304 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: a solo album and wins three Grammars for that. Come on, man, 305 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: come on, he needs to do a master class on 306 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: how to stay relevant and reinvent and recreate yourself over 307 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: the years. What's the story? Because look, we all know 308 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: about story time when. 309 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 2: They're legendary, jam come on, Brandon, what's the story brand, 310 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 2: industry and just Atlanta that people maybe don't know but 311 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: should that you can talk about that. 312 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: I know some stuff you can't talk about. That's such 313 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: a I mean, you know what one story, man, I mean, 314 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: I'll take more than one. They ally, they all have 315 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: been told bro over that they all have been told man, 316 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: like the backstage is at birthday bashed with Tip and 317 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: little Flip and you know, with Goodie mind bringing out 318 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: past de Troy and uh, you know, it's it's been 319 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: an interesting joy. I will say this though, and this, 320 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: and actually I've told this story. Maybe I have a 321 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: little bit a little bit. And I just saw Gezi 322 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: recently because we both shout out to TA Atlanta Airport 323 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: and Monica Coleman and a market and staff at Hartsville 324 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: Jackson for making myself and Geezi ambassadors with DC young 325 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: Flyer Shan I leave some great people zag Wallace the 326 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: screen I plugged that. Come on, man, can I be 327 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: on my ship too? No? But at one point, you know, 328 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: Jeezi was was banned from radio. He talked about it 329 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: on the Tropodie mix tape and he talked about it, 330 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: and I've talked about it a little bit as well. 331 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: And just to be able to be influential in getting 332 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: that band lifted was something special for me because the 333 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: late Great Shakir Stewart, who eventually brought me in to 334 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: be vice president of the Social Death Island Side when 335 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: he was at death Jam was really really stressing because 336 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: he assigned Jesus and did that deal. And of course 337 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: we know Jeezi was hot as an understatement as far 338 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: as the movement that Trappa Dye had created in the streets. 339 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: But Shakir, the Late Great Shakiir Steward called me and 340 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 1: was like, hey, bro, you know la reading' with that 341 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: not being on the radio ship? Man? What we got? Like? 342 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: What we you know? Come on man, you know he 343 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: a corporate guy. He like, while we in the radio 344 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: from from a big conglomerate like Radio One. And it 345 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: all happened because BMF had dropped that money Floyd helicopter 346 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: and dropped that money a birthday bash out of Lakewood Amphitheater, 347 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: and uh, somebody got hurt. And of course anything associated 348 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 1: with bmf with it at that time. They you know, 349 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: they said Jesus was associated. So they was like, but 350 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: to say all that, to say to get that band 351 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: lifted with special And I remember when Curious Stewart we 352 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: had the conversation. We met at Whole Foods. It was 353 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: me Jerry Smoking Bee, who was the program director at 354 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: the time, who really deserves a lot when I tell you, Brandon, 355 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: he deserves a lot of props for a really pushing 356 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: at Lina scene and breaking a lot of these artists 357 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: and records during that time in the early two thousand, 358 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Smoking b. But anyway, it was me, Jerry Smoking Bee, 359 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: Kiki b Coach k and Jeez and we met at 360 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: Whole Foods across some Pops over there points across some 361 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: pops City Market, and we talked for hours to the 362 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: I mean to the point where they were closed. They 363 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: had closed. They was in there cleaning the floors and 364 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 1: we still was talking and we all talked as grown men, 365 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: and the band was lifted. Jerry Smoking Bee left that 366 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: meeting and went back to the people he needed to 367 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 1: speak with at Radio one, and that band was lifted 368 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: all to the races and like I said, once again 369 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: with Shakira Stewart, who was one of the biggest executives 370 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: at Depth JAM at the time, was highly relieved and 371 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,959 Speaker 1: like okay, But just for me to have my hands 372 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: involved in that, that was something special over the years 373 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: that I looked back on and say, that was you 374 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,199 Speaker 1: know that that was something I'm glad I had my 375 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: hands involved to being to get that Jeezy the Snowman 376 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: band lifted from Radio. Yeah, I can't ban a Snowman. 377 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: I remember a band of Snowman, but that that motherfucker 378 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: was banned for a hot minute. But he was the 379 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: hot boy. And let me tell you, Trap to Dye 380 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: I've never seen I've only seen like two three movements 381 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: like that in my whole career. One was the chronic. 382 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it was so hot in the streets, Uh, 383 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: TRAPI dye this moment. I remember that, that was the moment. 384 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: It was everywhere and you know, I can't go nowhere 385 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: Brandon without the raw report. Yeah, mixtapes and DVDs coming out. 386 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: It was a different time back then too, because again 387 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: right now, especially like music is so easy to access, 388 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: I kind of think back on that, like you had 389 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: to kind of go through a little bit to geinst 390 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: some of that stuff. 391 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: You know, you had to get up and go to 392 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: the store. Just ain't having no phone you just come 393 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: and click on. Yeah, you had, so it makes it 394 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: even more Like I was just telling somebody recently, I 395 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: was like, these folks like DMX had two releases in 396 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: one year, and they both was like number one I believe, 397 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: Like I know one I'm sold like eight hundred thousand 398 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: first week another one the other one. So in the 399 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: same calendar year, Bro, these were people did. It's just 400 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: one of those downloads on the phone. That's what people 401 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: going into retail stores purchasing your CD. Come on, bro, 402 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand first week brow, Yeah he had two. 403 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 1: D X had two albums released in the same year 404 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: that sold like that. It's crazy going into retail store. 405 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: They're talking about stream going on the super say go 406 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: on into dbs. Yeah, now, yeah, Who's. 407 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 2: It's funny that you mentioned Jerry smoking Bee because again 408 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: I remember Jerry smoking Bee and all these folks and 409 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 2: just who's somebody again it was kind of behind the 410 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 2: scenes and in the music space, like you talked about, 411 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: he doesn't get he didn't get like the credit that 412 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: he probably deserves. Like, who's some other people like that 413 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 2: that really are behind the scenes and helping shape a 414 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: land of music scenes that you kind of saw from 415 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 2: your point of spectrum. 416 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: There's somebody that that I feel doesn't get the proper 417 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: respect and the props as far as setting Atlanta on 418 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: the trajectory to be what it is. And I mentioned 419 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: his name earlier, and that's big on. Okay, that's big 420 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: on because we talk about all that, we talk about 421 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: the Tony Draper's, we talk about the Jay Prince's, we 422 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: talk about the Luther Campbell's, and even when we talk 423 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: about Atlanta, you know what we talked about earlier with 424 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: JD Organized, Noise Dallas, you know all those guys La 425 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: and Babyface, but none of of that that Big Ounc 426 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: and ONK Camp was doing it on an independent here 427 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: in the A And then it needs to be it 428 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: needs to be talked about more of what the camp contributed, 429 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: what Big Unk contributed. This dude had retail stories, bro, Yeah, 430 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 1: he had mixtapes, his DJs was all over the place. 431 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 1: Shout out to Jelly, Voodoo Mante all those guys. They 432 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: were really really the ship here in the city. Man, 433 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: whether he was on the east side, whether he was 434 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: on the west side. I mean, come on, man, that 435 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: third world Yeah, third world. Barnards represented big own. But 436 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: but then once again, we talk about being independent and 437 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: being in business for yourself, and he had the blueprint 438 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: for that here in this city. Like I said, I 439 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: get mad respects to it because I watched wive House 440 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: with Tony Draper, I watched I watched master p and 441 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: then with no limit of course bird Man and Shlim 442 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: and them. But here in the A with what Big 443 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: Ounc and the on Camp Die has done, they deserve 444 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: way more credit and way more props. Man. 445 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 2: It's interesting because yeah, when you think about it, like 446 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 2: you think about kind of like the different sounds that 447 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: came out of these different camps and stuff like that. 448 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: You know, like in Camp had a sound was it was. 449 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the they definitely should get more proper. 450 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: They never had the commercial success because they had that 451 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: real you know, that real a line of gutter ship, 452 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: you know, but definitely Big On man, Yeah, and he's 453 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: just a great dude too. Man. He's he's not just 454 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: a great he's a great business man. He's just a 455 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: good dude. And then you notice how that and then 456 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: we talk about longevity. They're still around, Mante, still producing 457 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: hit records, Jelly still, they're still doing it. Man, is 458 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: still relevant, man, And that's hard to do. That, that's hard. 459 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 1: That's a good call out. 460 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: I mean again, there's definitely somebody who I can speak 461 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 2: for myself as a person that you to. 462 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: I used to install car speakers. 463 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 2: When I was in high school, so let me tell you, Yeah, 464 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 2: most of that stuff that we was playing was definitely camp. Yeah, 465 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 2: you know, we love the bass music, you know what 466 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 2: I mean. Again, I know that came from like places 467 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 2: like Miami and stuff, but they made a sound. 468 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: It sounded like Atlanta. And then of course, you know 469 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: there's another person, I mean, like myself, who was making 470 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: a lot happen behind the scenes. And I just want 471 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: to say rest in peace to Clay Evans because Clay, 472 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: you know, like myself, we we're always behind the scenes, 473 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: so we don't usually get the we don't get the props, 474 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: you know. But Clay, I watched him make a lot, 475 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: a lot of things happen. Man, So he's another person 476 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: that you know, rest in peace to Clay. But he 477 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: made a lot of shit happen, and he was very 478 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: influential in what Atlanta, what Atlanta has done and what 479 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: has become. 480 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 2: Is that one of the reasons why you started the 481 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: lyric the Storytime Listener Jerry podcast, because he wanted to 482 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 2: make sure that you gave it had a chance to 483 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: kind of give some of these people these flowers and 484 00:24:59,160 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 2: tell some of these stories. 485 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: That's exactly why I started the podcast, because you know, 486 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: it's it's people like you know, like I said, Clay Evans, 487 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: and there's a lot of other people I can name, 488 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: you know that's been behind the scenes. The Shanti Dass, 489 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: the Sherry Riley's, people like that that have made things 490 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: the Michael Blue Williams that have made things happen and 491 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: make things shake. And we don't get the we don't 492 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: get the we don't get the proper, which is cool, 493 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: Like you know, I'm fine, you know, even with you know, 494 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: Shakir Stewart and he he was very influential in my 495 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: personal and professional life with the things that he helped 496 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: may happen and you know. That was one of the 497 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: main things when I was just driving one day. This 498 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: is when I first, you know, came home from I 499 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: had to take a vacation for a minute, uh the 500 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: short vacation, and I was like, I want to start 501 00:25:55,359 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: this podcast. And it was people like Shakir think my 502 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: thoughts about him about how you know, tell your story, 503 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: you know, tell your narrative. And then you know, we 504 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: mentioned Nabs early Naves was another person like, man, tell 505 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: your story, man, and I like the way he tells 506 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: his He's not shy about it, and I love it 507 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 1: because Navs has had a lot to do with the 508 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: success of this city. So it's people like that. But 509 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever said this anywhere on camera 510 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: or anything. But the person who told me to do 511 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: a podcast, you go bug out. It was a DJ drama. Okay. 512 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,479 Speaker 1: I was over at Main Street one day and I 513 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: was like, hey, man, when I come back from this vacation, 514 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: spot man, you know, I want to recreate myself and 515 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: do some other things. And he was like, man, you 516 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: should do a podcast. And I knew what a podcast was, 517 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: but I didn't. Of course, I knew Cactus Jack, who 518 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: was the Trailblazer for all this kill It I knew, 519 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I was like, Okay, I'm know Terestra Radio, 520 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: I know how that works. But he was like, man 521 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: with the stories and the relationships and all that. And 522 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: this was twenty fifteen. He was like, you should do 523 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: a podcast, So shout out to DJ Drama. He put 524 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: the batteries in my back to to do story time 525 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: with legendary j. 526 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, man, You've mentioned a lot of 527 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: people that have been instrumental, but who are some of 528 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: the women that helped meet Atlanta what it is today, 529 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: especially for a music scene. 530 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say the biggest woman influential influence 531 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: on me has been Sherry Riley. Okay, doctor Sherry Riley. 532 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: She has written books, she has, but before she became 533 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: a well known author and a life changing person, she 534 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: was in the music business. She was an executive at 535 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: the Face Records all that, but she was very instrumental 536 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: in putting me in positions in the music business to win. 537 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,639 Speaker 1: She was the one who called me to come work 538 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 1: with Big Boy and erect Fix thousands, to come run 539 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: the promotion's arm of Aquimina that became Purple Ribbond Recors. 540 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: It was Sherry Riley and not just that, but there's 541 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: so many opportunities over the years, and we're like family 542 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: because she's cool with my aunt and uncle. But she 543 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: has been so influential on my career. Then I watched 544 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: people like Shanta Shoestring docs who we both came up saying. 545 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: So it's been you know here in Atlanta, but across 546 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: the board, just women that have made things happen, you know, 547 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: and that Dina Marts like people like that. Man, who 548 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: like I say, once again, people behind the scenes don't 549 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: get that. We don't get that. Yeah, you know, but 550 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: we make a lot of things happen. We push buttons. 551 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say again, Sherry Riley for me, who 552 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: she has probably more than anybody in the industry, She's 553 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: put me in more positions to win. Yeah. Man, women, Look, 554 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: the women run run things behind the scenes. Shit, especially 555 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: in this city, especially in this city. Yeah. 556 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: Look, man, now they got you over at Clark Atlanta. 557 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: You over there, you're teaching. You know what I'm saying. 558 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: I thought, again, I thought it was named after you. 559 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: For a minute there, I thought it was maybe, you know, 560 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: maybe might be in negotiations or whatever. 561 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: Right that to kind of get all the paper one 562 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: day a one day. But what do you what do you. 563 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: Poured into those students over there now that you wish 564 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: you had learned when you got started. Well, first of all, 565 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: those students have poured into me. I told them on 566 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: the last day classes that there were days where maybe 567 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: a life had been life. And when I walked into 568 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: that classroom, man, it just made me f a certain 569 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 2: way to uplift my spirits. But me and my co 570 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 2: instructor Brian Calhoun and Keith Perisi, we tell them all 571 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 2: the time that we wish we had a class like 572 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 2: fundamentals of the music business. But they're taking especially coming 573 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 2: from three people like us that have seen it all 574 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: in this business, and now we're able to take our 575 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 2: experiences and our knowledge and pour it into them. 576 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: We didn't have that. We didn't have that. It was 577 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: like we in turn, but it was like, all right, 578 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: put you off into the defense. Go ahead, that's how 579 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: you figured it out, Hey, you go swim and seek. Yeah. So, 580 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: but it's been such an amazing journey to wrap up 581 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: this first semester. I mean, just the feedback from the 582 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: students and the relationships and knowing that we are creating 583 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: the next wave of executives to come out of this city. Uh, 584 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: is really a great feeling because that's what they are. 585 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: And I and I told doctor French, the president of 586 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: Clark this when we first sat down and talked about 587 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: coming over to the school and bringing this course. Is 588 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: that and this is no no dish to any other 589 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: schools and universities. But CAU has put out more entertainment 590 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: and music executives and any other school. I mean, of 591 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: course you got hired more house and put out, but 592 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: c AU, man, you look at I mean they put 593 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: out some put out some executives. Bro. We can sit 594 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: here right now, name about twenty five legacy over there. Yeah, 595 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: and we can. We can see it like for real. 596 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: And that's that's easily and we're not and that ain't 597 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: even count that the creatives, the other creatives, but just overall, 598 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: so it's only right that you know this class is 599 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: at CAU, and I'll say it again, creating the next 600 00:31:55,480 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: wave and the next generation of superstar executives from the 601 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: business standpoint, and I'm happy to be over there being 602 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: able to contribute to that. 603 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 2: How do you define legacy especially now right, Like, I'm 604 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: sure you know that's probably changed over the years, Like 605 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 2: from what you used to chase what you chase now, 606 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 2: Like how do you kind of look at your legacy 607 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: and what you want to you know, leave your mark 608 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: on again the industry in Atlanta as Oh. 609 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: That's a good question, God Willing. I got a lot 610 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: of time left and a lot more to contribute. But 611 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: you know when I used to say that l word, 612 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: that legacy word to my kids, I remember those times 613 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: that used to laugh at me, Like Dad, you always 614 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: say that. I'm like, no, y'all don't realize how important 615 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: it is, how important your legacy is and the people 616 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: you affect. And I'm still writing my book and I 617 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: still have, like I said, God Willing, a lot of 618 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,239 Speaker 1: chapters left. But I want to, you know, if it 619 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: was the end right now, God forbid, I just want 620 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: people to be like, hey, man, this man he really 621 00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: helped from a cultural standpoint, and a lot of people personally, 622 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: but from a cultural standpoint, he helped push it forward 623 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 1: in this great city, the city that influences everything and 624 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: everybody worldwide. That I had my hands and I had 625 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: my footprint, Uh entrench firmly intrenched and everything that's culturally right, 626 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: and I guess wrong about Atlanta, about the culture overall 627 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: that I was heavily involved and I contributed to it. 628 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 1: And then people could look at my three seeds, my 629 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: three kids and be like, hey, your dad was I 630 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: was a solid dude that you know personally and professionally. 631 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,600 Speaker 1: That's it. But I got a lot of chapters left. 632 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: And when you come up to escalated the airport branding, 633 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: see how I said, Man, that's that's a goal for 634 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: me one day. Man that stop bro brod Butter not 635 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: look look Butter nomics. You are Bro. It's so much 636 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,040 Speaker 1: that you can make happen that I can't in this city. 637 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: And man, and that's a great thing man. Like I 638 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: told you at the beginning of the show, Man, it's 639 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: just to watch you move on the things you've done. Man, 640 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: Like we could joke around and talk a lot of talk, 641 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: a lot of shit, but you you've done some great things. 642 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: I just want to tell you again, I'm proud of you. Man, 643 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: how you move. This podcast is dope. I wish I 644 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: can get missed studio like that can get with a 645 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: screen like that. 646 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure you know a couple of people, Man, in 647 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 2: this building, I'm not sure you know, a couple of people. 648 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: Story time would be legendary. 649 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 2: Jerry, hey man, Look, you know one thing I can 650 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: honestly say, oh Jerry, is like again, ever since I 651 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 2: first connected with you, Bro, you've been open and honest 652 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: and authentic. You welcome me. You didn't have any reason to, 653 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 2: but you were like, Yo, what can I do? How 654 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 2: can I be helpful? But what I also notice is 655 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,359 Speaker 2: that every time I've been around you and I've seen 656 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: you like have like major accomplishments. I remember again, like 657 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 2: when you got your proclamation from the city was huge. 658 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 2: You know, it was at your birthday party, Like I 659 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 2: just see the people that show up for you, you know, 660 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 2: Like I was kind of was kind of joking before, like, Bro, 661 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 2: you had Brian mckelcox and Frank ski d and your 662 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: birthday party. 663 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: Like yeah, I was telling somebody, I was like, do 664 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: you understand who that is over there in that booth 665 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: right there? Ye? 666 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 2: Legend not to mention the people that are just like 667 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 2: walking around and just showing you love, and it's just 668 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 2: you know, again, I think that just kind of speaks 669 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 2: to your point out like legacy and relationships right, because 670 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 2: Atlanta is a very small, big city it is and 671 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: you know, a very territory, very click right, and you 672 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: got people of that caliber showing up to support you 673 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 2: and showing love. 674 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: I think it just speaks to the market because, like 675 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: I said, I was you know, I was joking, but 676 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: I was definitely serious that it bugs me out there. 677 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: Every year I throw my birthday party that that many 678 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: amount of people come out to show me love and respect. 679 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 1: And you know, to go back to what you mentioned. 680 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: When I got my proclamation, the mayor came out and 681 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,360 Speaker 1: and Michael Paul to give me my proclamation, and somebody 682 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: said you had the current mayor, you had the previous mayor. 683 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: It was about five six judges in the house. And 684 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: it bugged me out. Brandon, I said, damn I did. 685 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: It was like you had center this day. It was 686 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: all and I was like, yeah, you know it. I 687 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: had to sit back and reflect. Like these folks came 688 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: out for a little video, Jerry Clark, I mean, not 689 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: trying to diminish my but I'm like coming out for me, 690 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 1: like you just said, my birthday party it was it 691 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: was pagnant, Probably three hundred people that got turned away. 692 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know, I saw it. I was there. 693 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: So you know, God continues to bless me. And it's 694 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 1: all God, because you know, we all have our storms 695 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: and we all go through our things, but you know, 696 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: for Him to continue to reign favor and bless us 697 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: down on my life and put me in positions to 698 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: win and to be healthy mentally fizzledly and to be 699 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: in Hartsville Jackson Airport when one hundred and ten million 700 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: people a year can see my face, that's all God. Man. 701 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm all man. No matter what, God keeps blessing me. 702 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,240 Speaker 1: And I and I'm I'm, I'm here and I'm alive, 703 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,280 Speaker 1: and like I say, God will and I got several 704 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 1: more chapters to contribute to this legacy of mine that 705 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: I want to leave. 706 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 2: And then it's it's a legendary legacy and we appreciate. 707 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,320 Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, let me ask you, 708 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: if you had the ability to write a message on 709 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 2: every studio, every classroom, every boardroom in Atlanta, a message 710 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 2: from from Big Jerry Clark, Legendary Jerry Clark. 711 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: What message you leave on on those walls? Cultivate, cultivate 712 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 1: and nourish relationships it's all about great relationships at the 713 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: end of the day. That's what I would put. And 714 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: I remember writing out on the on the board at 715 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: CEU in the class one day so early in the semester, 716 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: it's all about relationships. Cultivate neurs, pour into great relationships. 717 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: That's what I write. That's what I ran on the board, 718 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: and I did it, and if I had to do 719 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: it today, that's what I would do. That's what it's about, man, 720 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: And you know that, look how we look, how we 721 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: came here. Absolutely, I could have been on some man, 722 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't know this ne who this mother? But I 723 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: didn't because I understood and I saw what you were doing. 724 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: And a lot of times as people, we don't see hit. 725 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 1: We all about the now what are you doing now? Okay, 726 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: bud at okay, Yeah, oh it looked cool. You got something. Yeah, 727 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: all right, that's cool. But I knew and then when 728 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: I met you and I and I saw and you know, 729 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: I'm all about energy and spirit, and I was like, oh, 730 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: this this is a solid dude. He's going to win 731 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: everything here that he's doing, He's going to win because 732 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: you you ain't. You ain't have all. It wasn't no 733 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,759 Speaker 1: like bullshit, asshole shit to you. So that's why I'm 734 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: glad that I came out and met you. And like 735 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: I say, and it just once again, it started from 736 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: in a relationship and we hear Buttonomics one of the 737 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: best podcasts in the world. Y'all, make sure y'all tune 738 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: in every however, every week, every time, every week, every 739 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: time it drops but of Nomics. Man, make sure y'all 740 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: y'all tune in because this is a great podcast. I 741 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 1: love it, Man, I appreciate you having me on. 742 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 2: Hey, Jerry, I appreciate you pulled up man. Like I said, Man, 743 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 2: I appreciate the support since day one. It's it's been 744 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 2: an honor to be you know, come along with you 745 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 2: on this part of the journey and see what you've 746 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 2: been building. And just again, man, my black T shirt 747 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: T shirt up here for me, I got hold on 748 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: my black tea is a little tight little way. 749 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 1: I gotta get get my summers. You gotta get you 750 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Go take some ozepicas off, can 751 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: cover these pals off, pimp Look. 752 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 2: Man, Jerry, Man, I appreciate you. Man, I know you 753 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 2: could definitely be you can be anywhere. 754 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: Up here, but you pulled up to us and we 755 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: can talk now that week well you know, we got 756 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: so we could talk another about Atlanta and this and 757 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: the culture. But we could talk for another hour. Man, 758 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,640 Speaker 1: So much stuff we can talk about. But I appreciate 759 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: you having me. Man. 760 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: This is dope, absolutely man. So you know, Jerry Clark, Man, 761 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 2: congratulations and everything. 762 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: Man. We can't wait to see what's next. Y'all. 763 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: Make sure when y'all come up to that escalator at 764 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 2: the airport, did y'all snap a picture? Why where? Where 765 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: can they find you? 766 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: Jerry? How can they find you? On social My all? 767 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:22,360 Speaker 1: My social media hand knows is Big Jerry Clark. My 768 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: podcast social media hand know is Legendary Jerry Podcast. And 769 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 1: go on YouTube. Go on YouTube Legendary Jerry Clark. Subscribe 770 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: to my YouTube channel and check out some of these 771 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: stories that Brandon was grilling me about. It. It's a bunch. 772 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: It's a bunch of them that's been told on the 773 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: on the on that you when you subscribe and you 774 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 1: check out Legendary Jerry Clark on the YouTube channel. So 775 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: that's it, Big Jerry Clark. Here in the Flesh a 776 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: k a. The Legendary Jerry, Hey, how that sound sound? 777 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: That sounds good? Man? You should you should do something 778 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: with that. I might do somebody do so. Yo. Man, 779 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: appreciate you pulling up with that. Man, that's the pod 780 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: we out. 781 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,480 Speaker 2: You've been listening to button Nomics and om your hosts, 782 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 2: Brandon Butler, got comments, feedback? 783 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: Want to be on the show. 784 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 2: Send us an email today at hello at butternomics dot com. 785 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 2: Butter Nomics is produced in Atlanta, Georgia at iHeartMedia by 786 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: Ksey Pegram, with marketing support from Queen and Nikki. 787 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 1: Music provided by mister Hanky. 788 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: If you haven't already, hit that subscribe button and never 789 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 2: missed an episode, and be sure to follow us on 790 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: all our social platforms at butter dot atl Listen to 791 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: button Nomics on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 792 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,359 Speaker 2: you get your podcasts