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For the final time 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty four to twenty twenty five season, 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: johnsh Belt Jonathan Casius with you on Giants Extra Point. 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 2: The Giant season comes to an end with another loss 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 2: to a NFC East opponent, the first time ever that 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: the Giants will have gone a season without defeating a 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: team in the NFC East. They fall to the Philadelphia 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Eagles twenty two thirteen. We will keep an eye on 14 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 2: the scoreboard here as other games are going on that 15 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: could impact the New York Football Giants in terms of 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: draft order. We'll keep an eye on that for you. 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 2: The Patriots just kneeled it down for the final time. 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: They defeat the Buffalo Bills twenty three to sixteen. So 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: the Giants leapfrog the Patriots and the draft order they 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 2: now can finish no lower than third. The Titans also 21 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 2: losses that game final, Matt Stopski, it is so the 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 2: Titans will finish ahead of the Giants in the draft order. 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: The Browns are three and fourteen, but there were enough 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 2: games still in progress with the tiebreaker with Cleveland that 25 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: that could still flip in terms of strength to schedule. 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: One game that could impact that, believe it or not, 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: is an overtime right now between the Jaguars and the Colts. 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: So if the Jaguars win that game, since the Browns 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 2: played the Jaguars and the Giants played the Cult, that 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: game actually gets weighed twice in that calculation. The Saints 31 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 2: Bucks game is another game that could theoretically impact that. 32 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 2: The Saints can figure out a way to win that game. 33 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: They currently trail the Bucks by one. That could help 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: the Giants, and that thinks strength of schedule tiebreaker now 35 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: as well. Right now they're separated only by zero point 36 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: zero zero eight in terms of percentage points with strength 37 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: of schedule, So things to keep an eye on here, 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: a lot coming you why and Giants extra point. We're 39 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: going out, Brian dab with the podium. We're gonna have 40 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 2: a bunch of players downstairs as well. But the Giants 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: do finish the season JC three and fourteen a very 42 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: disappointing year and just some plays at the end of 43 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: the game, and Bob and Carl talked about this on 44 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: the broadcast that kind of exemplified some of the issues 45 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 2: they've had where just in big moments they tended to 46 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: make instead of the big play. They made the big 47 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: mistake this year which turned a lot of close games 48 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: into losses. A fourth and three where it seemed pretty 49 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 2: obvious that the Eagles were just trying to draw the 50 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: Giants off sides and boogie bash and jumps off sides. 51 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 2: Then after the Eagles throw it a couple of times 52 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: with an incomplete pass to go out of bounds, giving 53 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: the Giants another shot to get the ball back. They 54 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: get the stop on third down and Kevon Thibodau roughs 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: the pass or wax him right in the face. Was 56 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: a good call, and that gives the Eagles the first down. 57 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: They end up running a lot of time off the clock. 58 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: Giants get the ball back. Drew Locke tries to make 59 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 2: a play down the field and it gets picked off. 60 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 2: It looked like cover two and Sydney Brown comes over 61 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: and makes a nice play and that was all she wrote. 62 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 2: And just again one score game, a Giant player came 63 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: up small on a big spot. 64 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's been kind of the recipe this year. You 65 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: know the Giants look, sometimes games don't go, you know 66 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: how you expect it to go, and you know you 67 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 3: might get out scored or out gained in yards and 68 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: which by the way, right, But then it comes a 69 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: cruisehoe point in the game at the end usually where 70 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 3: you have to make a play. You have to hold 71 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: your water on four and three when Eges probably weren't 72 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:33,919 Speaker 3: even gona stant the ball, probably gonna blow a time 73 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: out and you just make a mistake. And you know, 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: the Giants look, they've been shorthanded at times this year. 75 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: But then also they do to damage themselves to smoke. 76 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: It's not always about like, okay, who's not playing today 77 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: the Giants are short handed, blah blah blah, all that 78 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: good stuff. But the guys that are out there playing 79 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: you have to perform. You know you talked that halftime, 80 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: what was the key they got to produce? They gotta perform. 81 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 3: It's not about the coaches. When you're playing. The coaches 82 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 3: can only do certain things. 83 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: They took Ash and Mike before I guarantee a boogie 84 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: bash who told her on eighteen times not to go 85 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 2: off side. 86 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 3: They probably said it literally during the play. 87 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: Holda water literally they were. And then he goes on 88 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 2: the center. Yeah all that nonsense. 89 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's just we've we've seen it happen basically 90 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: the entire season, that the Giants being short ended at times, 91 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: but then also being in situation's Layton games, Cruiser situations 92 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: when the Giants failed to make a play or make 93 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 3: a mistake to give the other team opportunity to finish 94 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 3: the game, score, whatever the case is. But today is 95 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: what we've seen all year. 96 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: Bjon Robinson just scores the touchdown. Falcons and Panthers tied 97 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: to thirty eight and the Commanders down three with two 98 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: seconds to go. Instead of kicking a game tyme phil 99 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: against Dallas, they throw a fade route to Terry mclauran 100 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: in the courn of the end zone, catches it, and 101 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota touchdown pass to Terry mclauran. The Commanders are 102 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: going to beat the Dallas Cowboys twenty three to nineteen, 103 00:04:56,360 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: and with the Packers losing to the Bears, that means 104 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 2: the Commanders will avoid the Philadelphia Eagles in the first round. 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: Going to fully, Now, they pulled Janie Daniels at halftime, 106 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: so that clear wasn't that important to them to begin with. Uh, 107 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,559 Speaker 2: but they will avoid the Eagles, and now they will 108 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: take on whichever team wins the NFC South or the ended. No, 109 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: they will take on the Rams. They take it back. 110 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 2: Let's go to Brian Dable. He's already addressing the media. 111 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: He came out quick today. Here's Brian Dable to podium. 112 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 4: You tell me who. 113 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 2: Guard the corner? 114 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wanted to give wanted to give some of 115 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 5: those guys some reps. Excuse Dudok guard rolled him in 116 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 5: with Stinny Nut gave him some reps at corner. 117 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 4: So have you gotten any word? Yeah, I talked to 118 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 4: the ownership all the time. So I'm sure we'll have 119 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 4: another meeting here. 120 00:05:53,320 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 5: But I'm in constant communication with those guys that yeah, 121 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 5: I'm sure we'll we'll talk here. Yeah, I'm sure, I 122 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 5: mean we'll we'll talk. 123 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: We'll talk after this. I said what I said, Yeah, 124 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 4: we'll talk. Yeah, like we talk all the time. 125 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 2: That the answer. 126 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 4: Gonna talk, Yeah, like we normally do after games. 127 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 5: We'll sit down and have a conversation. But one more time. Yeah, 128 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 5: we're gonna we'll sit down and talk after the game here. 129 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: So yeah, I speak to Stephen John all the time. 130 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 5: So but after after the game, we'll sit down, you know, tonight. 131 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: Tomorrow, and we'll have a conversation. Yeah, look, we'll have this. 132 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 4: We'll have these talks here after the game tomorrow. I'm sure. 133 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: Uh, now that it's. 134 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 6: Over, I mean, how do you I mean, I don't 135 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 6: if you wanna assess the whole season when you now 136 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 6: said it was game? 137 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 3: What happened? 138 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 4: Was? 139 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 7: Was this game? 140 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 8: Mean? 141 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 9: Did it mean more or less to you? 142 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: The fact that you know, the last game they're playing 143 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 5: your baskeups, you're trying to win. 144 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 10: You know, what was your sense of what might. 145 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 11: Out there today? 146 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 12: Uh? 147 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 5: I thought we had some opportunities, you know, a couple 148 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 5: of critical errors, off side penalties, you know, hit the 149 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 5: one big play to the leak. But other than that, 150 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 5: efficient just not a lot of explosive plays. 151 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 4: Third down, Uh wasn't good enough? 152 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 13: What was it? 153 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 2: Uh? 154 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 14: The last two plays of the last time I think 155 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 14: the league was on the sideline or wasn't out there? 156 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, he ran he ran one route and then I 157 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 5: put put uh Hide in there on a a double 158 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 5: move play. 159 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 15: Just why why not what mo leak out there? 160 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 3: Uh? 161 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: To put Hide on a double move that we liked him? 162 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 3: Hunh Blink was in and out throughout most of the game. 163 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 5: Bok was Uh like he got banged up one time, 164 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 5: and then we were We're gonna roll Hiatt and and 165 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: Sleigh in one dell and give all four of those 166 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 5: guys work today. 167 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: He got the record. 168 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 5: Get no, I mean I'm I'm make sure he gets 169 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 5: catch it. 170 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 4: Well, we do that every We do that every week. Yeah, yeah, 171 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 4: I mean we do that every week. 172 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 12: So the most frustrating part of the season. 173 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 4: Uh well, not enough wins. 174 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: Not enough wins when when you season like this. 175 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll keep all that private. 176 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 10: Why do you think this programming? 177 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 13: Fans? 178 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: Fait, we don't see it heading in the right press. 179 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: We see three fourteen. 180 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 5: Why do you get the Yeah, we're three and fourteen. 181 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 5: But UH believe in the people, believe in our process. 182 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 5: And again we'll have those conversations. 183 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 4: Do you feel like you need to make a case 184 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 4: for your talk? 185 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 5: Uh no, Well we'll have normal conversations like we normally do. 186 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 5: Connor So got a good relationship with uh maryor family 187 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: to Tish family Joe. So we'll go through that process. 188 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 16: Do you feel like the way you start out? 189 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Do you feel about. 190 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: This organization? 191 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just focused on the on the players and 192 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 5: the coaches. You know, put a lot of work into 193 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: it and obviously didn't get good enough results with him 194 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 5: or how Yeah, Joe and I have good conversations. Those 195 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 5: conversations will be private guys, but there's good communication. I'll 196 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: say that I usually have them after games the next days. 197 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 4: Throughout the week, we talked quite a bit. I would say, 198 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 4: would prefer this resolution, what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen 199 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 4: figured out pretty queer so that it's not lingering. 200 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 5: So you know, yeah, look, I mean we'll sit down 201 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 5: like we normally do, have our conversations and you know, 202 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 5: go from there. 203 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 4: You are what you are. Coach Parcels used to. 204 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 5: Say, yeah, we just we just then it this year here, 205 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 5: So disappointing loss today. 206 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 4: Do you think this program is done enough? 207 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 5: You guys going there? Uh yeah, I'd say, look, just 208 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 5: disappointed we lost here today. 209 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: You know it wasn't good enough. 210 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 5: What's eight o'clock team meeting? Are you cont Uh No, 211 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 5: Look you you do the best job you can. Uh Again, 212 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 5: I'd say we have good conversations. Three wins not good enough, pat, 213 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 5: so a lot of work to be done. 214 00:10:57,120 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, weeks you have. 215 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 13: An idea where you see. 216 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 3: You guys go to get this field. 217 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say we're gonna have a lot of talks. 218 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 5: Art, I mean right after the last game. I'm not 219 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 5: going to give you an answer to that right now. 220 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 5: You know, there's a lot of things we got to 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 5: talk about and I've stually got to be better. O. 222 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 4: Good, nice guys. 223 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: It's Brian Dable at the podium for the final time 224 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: this season. The coach's press conference is brought to you 225 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: by Hackensackmurdin health. Keep getting better on the podium part 226 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: of me, I have to keep getting that right. They're 227 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: on the podium, they're at the left turn. 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Giants lose to the 236 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: Eagles to end their season twenty to thirteen. 237 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 10: You are listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bob's 238 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 10: Discount Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 239 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: Back here on Giants Extra Point, John Shmult Johnathan Casias 240 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: with you. Giants again fall to the Philadelphia Eagles in 241 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 2: their regular season finale twin to thirteen. They finished their 242 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: year three and fourteen. The Eagles finished their year fourteen 243 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: and three, yet still old Man only managed the two 244 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 2: seed in the NFC playoffs, which is kind of amazing 245 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: and odd, and we'll talk about this throughout throughout the show. 246 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 2: Here an odd, very top heavy and bottom heavy NFL 247 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: season where not a lot of teams in the middle 248 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 2: of this year, a lot of teams with five or 249 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 2: fewer losses, a lot of teams with eleven plus wins 250 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 2: this year in the National Football League. Jac what did 251 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: you take out of Brian Davids press conference. 252 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 3: There same you know, didn't give too much. You know, 253 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 3: I know all those guys, Jordan, aren't all of those 254 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 3: media guys for the Giants, you know, they're they're asking 255 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 3: postseason questions when it's like, hey, we just played a 256 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 3: game here, let's talk about the game. But you know, 257 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: Dave Ball is not going to give you too much. 258 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 3: He's tight lipped, you know. And I understand the questions though, 259 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 3: because they want answers, you know, but the Boll doesn't 260 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: really give you too much. You know. He keeped everything 261 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 3: close to the vest or chest, whatever the saying is. 262 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 3: But he's right. You know, the Giants lost another game, 263 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 3: you know, the same mistakes that we've seen throughout the year, 264 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: you know, against a willingly shorthanded Eagles team. You know, 265 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 3: they went in there not playing all all their starters 266 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 3: and you know, the Giants not being able to beat 267 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 3: that team. You know, for me, it for me as 268 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 3: a Giants former Giants player, would leave it like a 269 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: sour taste of them out for the offseason for sure. 270 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. Just to update the scoreboard 271 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 2: and we'll go through this throughout. The Saints are going 272 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 2: to wrap up this game against the Saints. They lead 273 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 2: twenty seven to nineteen. They gonna kneel the ball down here. 274 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 2: I think Mike Evans just caught a pass to goal 275 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 2: over one thousand yards for the year because he caught 276 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 2: a meetingless pass and then like half his team came 277 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: off the sideline to celebrate with them. 278 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 3: Hey did a touchdown, though did he get the touchdown? 279 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: Not on that play. He did score touchdown in the 280 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: game though. I believe so get over a thousand and 281 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: that that catch put them into a eleven straight thousand 282 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 2: yard season. So it looks like the Bucks will hold 283 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 2: on then to win the NFC South. With that win 284 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: over the New Orleans Saints, the Panthers and Falcons are 285 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: tied to thirty eight. That game is going into overtime, 286 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 2: but that game now meaningless for the Falcons. They cannot 287 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: make the postseason since the Bucks won that game. The 288 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 2: other overtime game I mentioned previously, the Colts defeated the 289 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 2: Jaguars twenty six to twenty three, and again with the 290 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: Saints losing, I think that pretty much. I don't have 291 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: all the math in front of me. It's not final 292 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: official from the league, but based on my rudimentary math skills, 293 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: which are actually not too bad, I'm not bad. I 294 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: don't believe the Giants will have much of an opportunity 295 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 2: now to pass the Browns in terms of strength of schedule, 296 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 2: to try to pass them, to try to get to 297 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: number two in the draft order. So again, this is 298 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: not official. This is simply based on me working math 299 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 2: in my head here on what I know about common opponents. 300 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: I believe the Giants are going to be locked into 301 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: the third spot in the NFL draft, and we can 302 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: talk about that means as well moving forward. Let's take 303 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: one more quick time out. We'll come back. We'll try 304 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: to get Drew lock from the podium and everything else 305 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: from downstairs in Philadelphia again. The Giants fall to the 306 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles twenty to thirteen. Giants Football is brought to 307 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: you by Verizon, the official five G network of the 308 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 2: New York Giants, Verizon America's most reliable network. We'll be 309 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: back with more right after this. 310 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 10: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bobs Discount 311 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 10: Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 312 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: Giants fall to the Eagles twenty to thirteen. Welcome back 313 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: to Giants Extra Point. Final game of the twenty twenty 314 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: four season for the New York Football Giants. The end 315 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 2: their year JC at three and fourteen Eagles end their 316 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: season at fourteen and three. Giants go winless in the 317 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 2: NFC East. They've had trouble beating teams in this division 318 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: for the better part of the last decade. They had 319 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 2: not won in Philadelphia since I believe twenty thirteen was 320 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: the year. So just a continuation of the Giants being 321 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: unable to compete consistently. The couple in twenty sixteen they 322 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 2: ended up winning the division where they just have not 323 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: been able to compete well enough in the NFC East 324 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: against these other teams. 325 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 3: Right, we didn't lose, we didn't win in twenty sixteen. 326 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. That was a wildcard team. You're right 327 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: about that. 328 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: No, you're right about that, and we beat the Cowboys 329 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: twice that year. But yeah, we've said this too offseason 330 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 3: shows on BBKL. 331 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: Twenty eleven, I believe was the last time the Giants 332 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: win the NFCS But I'll double check. 333 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: That, like, one of your goals as a team in 334 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 3: the beginning of the year is to win a division. 335 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eleven was the last time the Giants win 336 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 2: the division. 337 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: Because the end goal for every single team is what 338 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: to get to the Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl. 339 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 3: How do you get to Super Bowl, get to the playoffs? 340 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: How do you get to the playoffs? For sure, ways 341 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 3: you win a division. So that's the end goal. The 342 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: quickest way to get to the end goal for every 343 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: single player in the NFL is be competitive in your 344 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: division and win the division. That's how you get into 345 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 3: the dance. And the Giants just haven't been competitive. We 346 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: watched teams in the division have their ups in their downs. 347 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 3: You know, we watched the Commanders go from the bottom 348 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: of the division to being competitive in a division. You know, 349 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 3: beating a fully loaded Philadelphia Eagles team a couple of 350 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: weeks ago, coming back, you know, a lot of turnovers. 351 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 2: That game, not fully loaded. Jalenhurst didn't play. 352 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: Well, he got knocked out. They came right, you know, my 353 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 3: apologies right that which had to do a lot with 354 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 3: the outcome of the game. For sure. 355 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 2: Well, you know what, the Eagles still scored points in 356 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: that game too. 357 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 3: But but but what I'm saying is is that the 358 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 3: Giants kind of have stayed or even regressed. I mean 359 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 3: they have regressed because this year is the worst consecutive 360 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: losses they ever had in franchise history. 361 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: No since the playoff. You're in twenty twenty two, the 362 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 2: record's gone. 363 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 3: Down, and then correct, you know a lot of things negative. 364 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: I don't want to say all the negative stats, but 365 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 3: the Giants, and this is the thing I've always said, 366 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 3: especially since I started working here, is that you gotta 367 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 3: be competitive in your division. You know you don't when 368 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: we were looking at oh did the Giants take an 369 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: extra step? It's like you could just look at the 370 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 3: teams in the division the last few years and it 371 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: was always the Eagles or the Cowboys. They were the 372 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 3: top two teams. I think they went back and forth 373 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 3: the last few years of who won a division. You know, 374 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 3: Cowboys being twelve and five, you know the previous three seasons, 375 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 3: the Eagles being in the Super Bowl not too long ago. 376 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 3: The Giants didn't have to look outside of the division 377 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 3: to see if they were a competitive team. And even 378 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: the playoff team. Giants went in twenty twenty two where 379 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: they won their last playoff game that year in the division, 380 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: they were one four and one. They won against the Commanders, 381 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: tied against the Commanders, swept by the Cowboys, swept by 382 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: the Eagles. They have to do better in the division. 383 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: Like I think everything you do offseason wise, draft free 384 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: agency should be compete in your division, because if you 385 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: can handle your division, you'll do well. The Eagles have 386 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 3: done well, the Cowboys have done well. When they do 387 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 3: well in the division, we've seen it happen. 388 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 2: So what's the answer there, What do you think they need? 389 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 2: And we'll get through this all throughout this postgame show 390 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 2: and we're gonna get to your phone calls later on too. 391 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 2: But in order to better compete with Dallas, to better 392 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,399 Speaker 2: compete with the Commanders, where do you think it's the 393 00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 2: most besides quarterback? 394 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 395 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 2: Is it the most important spot for them to get better? 396 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: Or is it simply about the quarterback for you? 397 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: I think no, it's not. It's not just one player. 398 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't think you bring in a player like Jayden Daniels. 399 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 3: I think he's a very special player. I don't know 400 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 3: if there's another guy like that in the next few 401 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: years of the draft. Right, And look what Tampa did 402 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: a few years ago bringing in Tom Brady with the 403 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: Rams did bringing in Matthew Stafford veteran quarterbacks. You know, 404 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: they came in in won super bowls with them. I'm 405 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 3: not those are scenarios that could happen. Those are like 406 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: really rare. 407 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys don't become available every day. 408 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: I think the mindset has to shift. And the reason 409 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 3: why I say that because and we spoke about this before. 410 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 3: When this year the Giants lost to the Tampa Bay 411 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: Buccaneers and that was out. After that game, everybody was like, oh, 412 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 3: we played soft today, and you know, everybody was like upset. 413 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 3: You could hear it in their voice. You could hear 414 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 3: in their tone from offense the defense. They all spoke 415 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: like with anger, right, and then some of them kind 416 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: of took the comments back a little bit during the week. 417 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,239 Speaker 3: Next week they played Dallas. They lost a close one 418 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 3: the Dallas with a more competitive effort to Dallas. But 419 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: I didn't hear that fire. I didn't hear that, you know, 420 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,479 Speaker 3: anger that I heard the week before. And it's like, 421 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: we don't play Tampa every year, play Tampa every whatever, 422 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 3: once every four years, at once every two three years, 423 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 3: whatever the case is. You play Dallas twice a year 424 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: and most guys never beat I mean, who beat Dallas 425 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: on his team, Dexter one time? Who else on this 426 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: team beat Dallas. These guys don't know how to beat Dallas. 427 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 3: They don't have to beat Philly. They did last year, 428 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 3: but Philly was a different team at the end of 429 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 3: the year. They wouldn't beginning of the year. You have 430 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 3: to have a different mindset when you get into the 431 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: NFL these division games. Their count is double and you 432 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 3: have to do well in your division. I just don't 433 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 3: think the mindset is there for the whole program on 434 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 3: facing teams in your division, And I. 435 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 2: Just well, isn't mindset though, or are they just simply 436 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: not good enough to physically beat them on the field, 437 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: or do you think it's a mental thing. 438 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of both. But I think 439 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: the mental part has a lot to do with winning 440 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: games late when it's competitive and making those last couple 441 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 3: final mistakes or non mistakes or final plays that you 442 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 3: need to make to win a game that you The 443 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: Giants are supposed to win today. The Eagles rested their starters. 444 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: The Giants supposed to win today's game. I don't know 445 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 3: if they were favored, but coming into it, it's like, 446 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: all right, we may not have nothing to play for, 447 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,159 Speaker 3: but as players we do we have to. You know, 448 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 3: there's a lot of things you could avoid by winning 449 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 3: this game. But they didn't, you know, they undefeated a division, 450 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 3: excuse me, winless in the division, the most losses for 451 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 3: the Giants team ever, the most straight loss about the 452 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 3: Giants team ever. That happened a couple of weeks ago. 453 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 3: And I don't know. It's just for me. The mindset, 454 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: the culture. It's like like, it's not about the players, 455 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 3: it's not about the coaches. It's a combination of all 456 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 3: of those things. But it's it's the mindset of when 457 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: we go out there, it's a regardless of who's playing, 458 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 3: regardless of first round us, regardless of running backs, whatever 459 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 3: that is. We have to go out there and perform. 460 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 3: We have to execute plays. The coaches can't play for us. 461 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 3: I can't any of these games. I cannot put it 462 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 3: on day Ball or Joe Shane. A lot of peoples like, oh, 463 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 3: they need to get right all of the outside noise. 464 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 3: I'm expecting a lot more from these players because I've 465 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 3: seen it from especially the guys in the beginning the 466 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: season when they were healthy. I expect a lot of 467 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 3: them because they proved it to us. They showed us 468 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: that they can play at a high level. And then 469 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: even the best players in the Giants they didn't play 470 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: like it consistently enough this year for the Giants to 471 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 3: have success, and then at the end of the year, 472 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: when your bare bone structure of what you were for 473 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 3: the seasons first started, you're still making the same mental 474 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 3: mistakes that you did when you were fully loaded. 475 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: For all your office, industry and residential movie needs. 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We'll find out 485 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 2: in the next few days, as other NFL teams too, 486 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 2: are making those very tough decisions. I know personally both 487 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 2: JAC and I are big fans of Brian Dable and 488 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 2: Joe Shane. They're good people. The good guys were with 489 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: them in the building every day. But obviously we have 490 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: no idea. What the thinking is there, But I'm sure 491 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 2: we'll find out in the coming days. All right, quick 492 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: time out, we'll come back. We'll chew up the phones 493 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 2: a little bit later in the postgame show. We'd have 494 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 2: more players downstairs as well, talking about the Giants twenty 495 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 2: to thirteen lost to the Eagles. We'll be right back. 496 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 10: You're listening to Giants Extra point on the Bobs Discount 497 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 10: Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 498 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 15: Lock pumps's right flag, neighbors split like two receivers. 499 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 17: Lock Lock's gonna just scheed. 500 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 15: It down the right side, white open neighbors at the 501 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 15: fifteenth bounces off, the defender dies for. 502 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 17: The end zone. Is he in? Yes? 503 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 15: Touchdown forty five yards to my league as a TikTok 504 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 15: down the right sideline. 505 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: And that was today's play. The game brought to you 506 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 2: by our local Ford stores. One engine drives this team 507 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 2: for current offersos at vefour now dot com. Ford Official 508 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 2: truck of the Giants. A forty five yard touchdown catch 509 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: from Elage neighbors, fourth thirty plus yard catch he sat 510 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: over the last two weeks. My league Neighbors really exploding. 511 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: Jonathan Casias to close out his year. Giants though fall 512 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 2: to the Eagles twin of thirteen. That was the Giants 513 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 2: only touchdown of the game. But I really think mylik 514 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 2: neighbors the last few weeks here Jonathan rounded in the 515 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: form schmelle Casius with you by the way, to show 516 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: the type of explosiveness that we saw a bit of 517 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: the first four weeks. He kind of disappeared for ten weeks, 518 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: and then kind of popped in the last couple weeks 519 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: again the last two three weeks where he's running, catching, 520 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 2: he's catching balls down the field, breaking tackles for touchdowns, 521 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: and he's even just drawing defensive passing the Feorence penalties 522 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: to move the ball down the field. That's the type 523 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: of Frankly, he's looked like Jamar Chase in a lot 524 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: of ways, and I realized what high praise that is. 525 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 2: And maybe not the same volume of plays that Jamar 526 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 2: Chase has made, but the same type of plays that 527 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase has made in his early phenomenal career, where 528 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,959 Speaker 2: he's a guy that you can really build your offense around. 529 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he showed us. We saw glimpses of it. Like 530 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: you said, early in the season, you know, the reason 531 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 3: why he was selected so high, and then there was 532 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 3: a law in the middle season he did get knocked 533 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 3: out though he was out concussion, you know, might have 534 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: took him a while to get his feet right after that. 535 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: And then the last few weeks he took stride, you know, 536 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: and he showed us everything you want out of a 537 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: number one receiver, right He showed his hands, he had, 538 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 3: you know, a great catch radius. 539 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 2: And by the way, after some early season drop issues, 540 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: the last five six games those kind of went away 541 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: to one hundred. 542 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: The back shoulder that drew locked through last week, the 543 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: ability to get that ball, like, the athleticism to get 544 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: to that ball. 545 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 2: If anything, I think his catch radius, contested catch stuff 546 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: has been better in the pros. And it wasn't even 547 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: in college. 548 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I didn't watch him in college, 549 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: you know, I don't watch college. But to see him 550 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 3: take the form I barely watched him too, but to 551 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 3: see him take form, you know, I think that's a 552 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, you want 553 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: to take something from this year going into the offseason, 554 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: and I think you can stand on like this was 555 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: a good player. Josh had a good draft. A lot 556 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 3: of these rookies that he drafted this year played and 557 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: I think they played well. Drew Phillips I throw in 558 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 3: there at one point, Drew Phillips is the best dB 559 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: for the for the for the Giants, I feel like 560 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: consistently throughout the year. I agree with that he's been consistent. 561 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 3: You know, He's missed a little time, but he's been 562 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 3: you know, on the field as much as anybody else. 563 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: And he made plays every time he was out there. 564 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: He's a physical presence out there. You got a young 565 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: safety as well, Tyler Nuban. You got a really good 566 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: young running back in Tyrone Tracy. So when you want 567 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 3: to look towards next year to see, you know, the 568 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 3: nice pieces that the Giants have moving forward, these are 569 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 3: just the young guys. I'm not talking about the Dexter 570 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 3: Lawrences and the Bobby oo Caracas and the Brian Burns, 571 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 3: talking about the young guys that are going to go 572 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 3: into their second year with a not so great first year, 573 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 3: with something to work towards. You know, hopefully they have 574 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 3: that fire in their belly and understand, you know, how 575 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 3: important it is to win in your division. You know, 576 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 3: I don't know if they want me to come by 577 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 3: and talk to the team or whatever, you know, curse 578 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 3: him out a little bit, you know, do some of 579 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 3: my jersey explicits, you know, whatever the case is. But 580 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: you know, there's some positives to take. Not too many 581 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: this season, but neighbors eclipsing the Giants record for catches 582 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 3: this year, also the rookie record for catches. 583 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he finished with one hundred and nine catches for 584 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: twelve hundred and four yards, second Giants' highest rookie receiving 585 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: yard market, and he owns the Giants rookie reception market 586 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 2: one hundred and nine, only the second Giants rookie receiver 587 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 2: ever to finish with more than a sausand yards. 588 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 3: He has the number one rookie out of the whole league. 589 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: He has that record. 590 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: Too right now, but brock Bowers has yet to play, 591 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: So that's so wide receiver, sure, but brock Bowers likely 592 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 2: unless he gets somehow shut out in this afternoon. But 593 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: you know, I don't think that's gonna happen like that. 594 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 3: But so there's something look forward to going into next year. 595 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: Some of these young rookies we're gonna look to have 596 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: big sophomore seasons coming up. 597 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: No question about it, and you hope that those young 598 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 2: players continue to grow. You hope the young players from 599 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 2: the two draft classes prior improve and continue to get better, 600 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: because that's the basis of your team, right When you're 601 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 2: building a team, your draft classes have to develop to 602 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: become the cornerstones of your franchise. So you hope that 603 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 2: those guys all continue to improve, continue to get better. 604 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: As the Giants move forward here into twenty twenty five, 605 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 2: we'll have a lot more coming your way from downstairs. 606 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: That and a whole lot more the Giants again they 607 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: loose the Eagles twenty to thirty. Another quick time out. 608 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: We'll come back. We'll try to get some of that 609 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: audio for you. That and a whole lot more when 610 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: we return after this. 611 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 10: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bubbs Discount 612 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 10: Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 613 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 3: This is mylite, neighbors, and you're listening to the radio 614 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 3: home of Big Blue the Fan WFN and WFN FM, 615 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 3: New York. 616 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 15: Tosslaut for Tracy makes one man mess, turns the corner. 617 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 17: He's got a first down all the. 618 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 15: Way up to Bitfield and the Eagles territory, carrying four 619 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 15: Eagles to the Eagles forty five second and six at 620 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Speaker 15: the thirties play, fake lock back grows it right wide open. 621 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 15: Man Hirks at the twenty to the fifteen had shoved 622 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 15: out of bounds at the fourteen yard line, again of 623 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 15: sixteen for Chris man Hirks's longest catch. 624 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 17: Of the year. 625 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: Those two players were part of the Giants drive of 626 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: the game. Their only other scoring drive we played them 627 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 2: League neighbors touchdown on their eight play seventy yard drive. 628 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: Those two plays helped the Giants go fifty eight yards 629 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: on ten plays instead of their first score of the 630 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: game of field goal to start the third quarter that 631 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: cut the Eagles lead to ten to three, but they 632 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: fall short. When all was said and done, the Giants 633 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 2: lose to the Eagles twenty to thirteen. They have falled 634 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: the three and fourteen on the season, their season ending 635 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: on a Drew Lock interception looking for Jalen high I 636 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: picked off by Sidney Brown down the left side line 637 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 2: on kind of a desperation drive with not much time 638 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 2: to go and no timeouts. They got the ball back 639 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 2: with like forty seconds to play and drew Lock trying 640 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: to make something happen in good play by Sidney Brown 641 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 2: coming over from his deep safety position to intercept that pass. 642 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,239 Speaker 2: All right, we have some modio in from the locker room. 643 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: Atter the game. Drew lock was the Giants quarterback today. 644 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: He finished the game efficient but not very productive. He 645 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: was twenty two of twenty nine, but just one hundred 646 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: and thirty eight yards, one touchdown and then interception on 647 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: the final Here's Drew Locke after the game. 648 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 17: Drew when cold. 649 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 18: A lot of tough conditions out there today, plus Tilly's 650 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 18: defense was the most difficult part about the operation. 651 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 11: Said, I feel like the operation was spirit today. A 652 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 11: couple of false starts by us because of the move 653 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 11: and jump and shifts. 654 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 17: And yell and go at the line, no excuse, but 655 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 17: a couple of things there. 656 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 11: Just had trouble really early early on in the going, 657 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 11: but came out the second half. 658 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: They played a pretty good football. 659 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 11: Just a weird game, just a weird hear. 660 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 14: How important was the team? 661 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 17: What was what was the record the Giants sting scene? 662 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 19: Were you? Were you aware of that? 663 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 6: No? 664 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 4: No, no, I wasn't good ahead now that's cool? 665 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: What was the move? 666 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 20: Just like after this game, obviously trying to put the 667 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 20: season in perspective, or just try to focus on this 668 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 20: one as all as one game. 669 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that just this week is one game. 670 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 4: We'll get to the season as. 671 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 13: A whole tomorrow. 672 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 11: Probably at this pointed a loss here in the last one. 673 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 17: That's football, gotta press on you moving forward. 674 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: I said, it was a weird game. 675 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 2: Weird you just felt like. 676 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 11: You come out and you're like, I'm the best way 677 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 11: I can play it, like when you're playing hoops, kind. 678 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 17: Of just getting in your own way. 679 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: I feel like you. 680 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 11: Should be playing better. 681 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 2: I feel like we should be up. I feel like 682 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 2: we should be going. 683 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 19: Sooner enough. 684 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 11: Later it kind of started rolling a little bit for us, 685 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 11: and by then it was just too late. 686 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 19: I couldn't get it done. 687 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 4: But it just felt like there, it was there for us. 688 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 18: Does the final gun with the final game in the 689 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 18: regular season ever feel any differently or is it always 690 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 18: kind of weird because you know them it's over. 691 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 11: Oh, it's always weird, especially when you're gone, you know, one. 692 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: Years, it's always weird. 693 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 11: You know, there's no guarantee treat every day like it. 694 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: But I mean, whether you're on a four year. 695 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 11: Three or tier, you know, every snap of your last. 696 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 11: You gotta treat it. 697 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 3: That way, and you know, I definitely treat it that way. 698 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,719 Speaker 11: And I appreciate this organization for let me come out 699 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 11: here and play, and it's a blessing to stat there 700 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 11: on the field every day. 701 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 2: Thank you with Drew Locke in the post game asking 702 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 2: him some questions. Player press conferences are brought to you 703 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: by MetLife, the official insurance company of the New York Giants. 704 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: Jase's funny we haven't talked about today on the halftime 705 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: our pregame show, Last Game of the weird is last 706 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 2: game of the year? Is it weird for a player 707 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 2: knowing that this is the final game for this specific 708 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 2: group of players, because you well know, there's so much 709 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: turnover the year in the NFL, you don't really ever 710 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 2: bring back the same team. Is it weird playing in 711 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: that final game? 712 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 3: It's very weird because you gotta think we're structured, right, 713 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 3: We're all scheduled. You know, our lives are scheduled, and 714 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 3: everything is scheduled. You know exactly what time you're gonna 715 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 3: be Monday. You know what your Tuesday is gonna look like, 716 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: Your Wednesda is gonna look like. You know what your 717 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: week's gonna. 718 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 2: Look like the way I describe the people that don't understand. 719 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: And the player life is even worse than the one 720 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: that I live here with our schedule, but our schedule 721 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 2: is married to the player schedule. Obviously, you don't play it. 722 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: You don't play an eighteen week season. You play eighteen 723 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 2: one week season because every week is the same, and 724 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: you build up, even for me preparing for our programming, 725 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: you do all your work, you prepare, everything's gone, and 726 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: then a Monday you start from zero all over again. 727 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: I imagine it's part of the same thing for anxiety 728 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: what it is. 729 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 3: So now it's like, you know, if you were a 730 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,479 Speaker 3: playoff team, you'll be preparing for next week and they'll 731 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 3: be the same, nothing different. When you make it to 732 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 3: the playoffs, there's the same thing. You gotta win a game, 733 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: prepare for maybe you sleep a little bit longer, maybe 734 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 3: you go a little bit more treatment, but like you're 735 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 3: not doing anything different for the playoffs. This is a 736 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 3: different week. You know, the guys are done with the season. 737 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 3: They're done, so it's you can't come back, like get 738 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 3: them back next week. Like all of those things that 739 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 3: mentally you would say to like bounce back or come 740 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,200 Speaker 3: back from. 741 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 2: It's funny like there, like we got back today from Tommy's. 742 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 2: We do the show from Tommy's, and then we come 743 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: back when we do the halftime in postgame here and 744 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 2: guys were setting up to have their car shipped back 745 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: where they're from is they're flying home, and there were 746 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 2: some flatbeds getting the car ship back. So it's stuff 747 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: like that. 748 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 3: It's different. It's unlike any other game that you'll ever 749 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 3: play in. It's the last game of the season, and 750 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 3: it's a fact that this team is not going to 751 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 3: be the same, you know, like no matter who, if 752 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 3: they try to keep anybody, everybody, they just can't do it. 753 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 3: You got bring in draft picks, like you can't do it. 754 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 3: So this is the last time you played the game. 755 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: And that's one of the for me, that's one of 756 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 3: the hardest things for me, is like this is the 757 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: last time we're playing together, you know, Like I've been 758 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: on a couple of non playoff teams. Were week seventeen 759 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 3: when it was seventeen weeks, that was the last thing. 760 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 3: And then you just go in the locker room, you 761 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 3: hug your brothers, you know what I mean, Like you 762 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 3: you know, especially if it's multiple years you've been with 763 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 3: this guy, and you know, you you form a special 764 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 3: bond with these players when you go through you know, 765 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 3: especially some rough times that they went through this year, 766 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 3: but you know that he was with you the whole time. 767 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 3: You know that that guy was with you the whole time. 768 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 3: So you forever, you know, linked with these guys. You know, 769 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 3: throughout internity. There's nothing to stand on it, like there's 770 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 3: nothing special you know, significance of this year, but you 771 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 3: understand like I went to battle with this dude, you know, 772 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 3: but now that's over and now family time is coming up. 773 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 3: Get to take the kids to school, you know what 774 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: I mean. You get to focus on whatever business, you know, 775 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 3: stuff that you got going on. So you know, it's 776 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 3: a it's a more freeing time for these NFL guys 777 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 3: for sure. 778 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: What if you're a player and you don't know if 779 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 2: you're going to be back with that team in your 780 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,760 Speaker 2: final week, in the final game. 781 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: I mean hopefully you were playing your hardest every game, 782 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 3: so you're not questioning that did I do everything that 783 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: I could have done to put some good stuff on 784 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 3: film for either this team or another other Thirty one teams, 785 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 3: and if you feel like you did, then I think 786 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 3: you should have a good offseason. You know, you shouldn't 787 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 3: think you know too highly of it because it's basically out 788 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: of your control right now. There's nothing really you can do. 789 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 3: You can't do any workouts, there's no lifts, you can't 790 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 3: run a good forty yard dash, like, none of those 791 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 3: things can happen. So you hope that you put together 792 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 3: your body work this year and it was good enough 793 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 3: to you know, extend your career another year. If that's 794 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 3: something that you choose to do, no. 795 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: Question about it. I just think, Yeah, it's one of 796 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 2: those deals where you're you're trying to figure out what's next, 797 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,240 Speaker 2: and it's you don't something is straight. 798 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 3: You don't know though, that's the thing, you don't know. 799 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 3: But like families like, all right, so so what's happening 800 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 3: next year? And literally like I don't know, Like if 801 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 3: you're if you're a. 802 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 2: Free agent, right right, you got to wait till March. 803 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like what we're gonna do with the house, babe, 804 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like I got a six month LEAs 805 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 3: it's about to the end. Do I extend it? Probably not, 806 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 3: you know, what I mean, do I say in the hotel? 807 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 3: Do I put my stuff in storage? Like? These are 808 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 3: the questions that a lot of these guys, especially guys 809 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 3: that aren't on contract for next year. If the guys 810 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: aren't on contract for next year, this's a big question mark. 811 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 2: And if you're where there gonna be And if you're 812 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 2: a vet and you've made millions of dollars, those decisions 813 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 2: are a lot easier. If you're a younger guy that 814 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: have kind of been hanging on the back end of 815 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: the roster for a while, then I imagine those decisions 816 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: get tougher. 817 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you might go stay with your mom. It's like, right, 818 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,720 Speaker 3: I'm saying, d you know, good to be a local 819 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,600 Speaker 3: guy and you could just go right down the street 820 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:06,359 Speaker 3: to your mom's house. 821 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 2: Oh mad. Giants football is brought to you by your 822 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 2: local Ford stores. One engine drives this team for current 823 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: officers at buy Ford now dot com. Ford Official truck 824 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 2: of the Giants. The player of press conference is once 825 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 2: again brought to you by MetLife, the official insurance company 826 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: of the Giants. League neighbors spoke to the media after 827 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 2: the game. Here's him. 828 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 19: Bowers may or may not cast you for the moment. 829 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 19: You have the right to do. 830 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 2: It after the touchdown. 831 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 3: In the school of touchdown, how much. 832 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 18: Is that we do? 833 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, it means a lot. 834 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: I was keeping check the keeper check over the year 835 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 2: and we have a few text of problems. 836 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 3: So when he got there with. 837 00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 17: You were wearing the giants. 838 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: So you see remember a song. 839 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 19: That you should before that? 840 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wasn't aware of that. 841 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 2: Also, I thought I had it earlier in the game trying. 842 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 3: To get the ball, but. 843 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,359 Speaker 19: I'm still had two kid. 844 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 15: Yeah, you know it was instam Well, I mean say 845 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,839 Speaker 15: in the year before me and my rookie season off right, 846 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 15: you hit. 847 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: Off strong. 848 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 8: Car next year, there was a series before you came in. 849 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: And have to them where you didn't play the series. 850 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 13: You were on my sideline holding here happening where you 851 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 13: banged up or taking a breather or. 852 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 2: Hit at the beginning, kind of messing my arm. 853 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 12: So they were just being cause it just putting at 854 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 12: a tide. 855 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 14: Actually, how you also went out there with a couple 856 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 14: of dudes you got you know why the bat? 857 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 21: No, I'm just it's only con game. Y. 858 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 17: It feels good. 859 00:39:56,040 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 14: I'm putting that banged up, But I'm. 860 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: Not best Mike, I. 861 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 19: Don't know. 862 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 13: I'm gonna look you know, i'd stand. 863 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 2: My doctor. Yeah, that's the little things. 864 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:33,720 Speaker 21: I mean, it's staying on page h pendal tease team 865 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 21: playing together, and that's really. 866 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 2: A bad I saw. 867 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 17: How do you say my favorite? 868 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 22: Hopefully I'm gonna as. 869 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 17: A lot of lot a lot can get better on here, 870 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 17: little stronger. 871 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 23: But it's a lot more I can do all that 872 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 23: lat y r a to next year. 873 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 17: It's a lot of just come. 874 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,240 Speaker 3: Out of way, like I said, the court pilate st the. 875 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 7: Track a back. 876 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 16: Wellie, how are you feeling knowing that the season is 877 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 16: over and under the way that it did, I mean 878 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:17,600 Speaker 16: just immediately coming off the. 879 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 4: Field and I knowing you're not playing foball next week. 880 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard. 881 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 2: You know a lot of guys going out the gill 882 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 2: you go back home. It's hard, but. 883 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 23: That's that's that's that's okay. 884 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 13: A lot of teams first year your hrs. 885 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 11: But I only real ortization every Giants don't have. 886 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 6: A single quarterback there Ca, you're like. 887 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 15: Your own kids in here. 888 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 4: Don't say a quarterback your recue. 889 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 12: I'm sure you know I'm gonna have a lot of 890 00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,440 Speaker 12: phone calls then you know Calding my phone. Oh but 891 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 12: I mean, like I said, I'm gonna get upstairs. 892 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 14: All that that's not a bunch of Do you feel 893 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 14: like that for such what tough teams feels that if 894 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 14: you stay here in the funny fielding watching making this 895 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 14: name work, they don't feel that much water and you 896 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 14: want a good pack. This is I think started something. 897 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 14: If you guys can get this turn around, then you don't. 898 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 19: Mean what I mean you. 899 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 2: I'm sorry with me the most anybody until you can 900 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 2: come down love them together to. 901 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,880 Speaker 12: What if some lessons do you take away from your 902 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,239 Speaker 12: first year? 903 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 2: Now? But just what you are yourself and I'm playing 904 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 2: in last season? They can sure your body is the 905 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: healthiest can be. 906 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 7: Said? 907 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 19: Could you talking about that touch? Back up and get 908 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 19: that any guys? 909 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 10: Oh so I reready had I already had a post, 910 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 10: but a very it did and I read. 911 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 12: Like a little a little goal and against me and 912 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,280 Speaker 12: Jules saying. 913 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 21: Physically we didn't talked about it, so you know he 914 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 21: gave me a you know, a good ball, and I 915 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 21: didn't know what a defriend it was. 916 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 4: So he hit me like he give me like a 917 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 4: little kind of wrong where I could have. 918 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 2: Stayed up and just kept up the school. 919 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 12: And winning NFL didn't give him something. 920 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: Three many people say team team, that's. 921 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 19: Why, you know what, we have the right reasons. 922 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 13: I mean, we just gotta you know, we gotta play 923 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:38,600 Speaker 13: as a unit. 924 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 5: We gotta player the teams. 925 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 8: You know, it's a lot of games that. 926 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 2: We lost when it was close. 927 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 17: Girls, would it just did. 928 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 3: Just like we woulda win again. 929 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, this team was coaching just gotta so. 930 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,960 Speaker 2: Either little thing was it been harder to winning the 931 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 2: NFL and he thought of me and you ever. 932 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,720 Speaker 20: Got won a lot of games in college. 933 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 4: What is just been like from the NFL? 934 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 24: You roll the coach? 935 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, thankfully that's the league neighbors. After the game, Giants 936 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 2: again lose to the Eagles twenty to thirteen. Let's bring 937 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 2: in our guy, Paul Deatino, who joins us waiting to 938 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,280 Speaker 2: get on the bus to get back up from Philly. Paul. 939 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 2: These ends of the season locker rooms are always weird 940 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: with you know, players, you know, playing their final game together. 941 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 2: What was kind of the tenor in the locker room 942 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: after the game. 943 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 19: You don't want John, it was a weird one. Again, 944 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 19: you use that word I'm going to tell you it 945 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 19: was strange because it was almost like guys couldn't believe 946 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 19: the season was over. At the same time they understood that, 947 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 19: you know, there wasn't going to be another game. There 948 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 19: wasn't much in terms of, oh, sadness. It was almost 949 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 19: like almost disbelief, almost like, oh, you know, there's no 950 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 19: other game for us to play. That's kind of the 951 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 19: feeling that I got. It's like the guys still wanted 952 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,280 Speaker 19: to play another game next week, even though the record 953 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 19: has been poor and they're not going to the playoffs. 954 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,000 Speaker 19: It's kind of like they still want to suit up 955 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 19: and go out of it again. Look, they tried to 956 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 19: win today. They didn't get it done, but these guys 957 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 19: have fun playing together. 958 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure there wasn't that much rehashity of this game specifically, 959 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: but I mean the way the team again in a 960 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: big spot, Paul, We've talked about this all year, just 961 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: made the critical mistake and a critical spot at end 962 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: of the game with those two penalties. Is that something 963 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:23,919 Speaker 2: that you could tell was bothering some of the guys 964 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 2: in the locker room after the game. 965 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 19: You know, John, you heard neighbors. You guys just replayed 966 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,200 Speaker 19: that interview. Darius Slayton also talked a little bit about it. 967 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 19: From what I could hear, it was it was a 968 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,320 Speaker 19: theme that this team made a bunch of mistakes in 969 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,080 Speaker 19: a bunch of different areas that guys wish they had 970 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,880 Speaker 19: back and feel like, Okay, you know this will happen 971 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 19: in certain seasons, other seasons it won't. It got to 972 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 19: clean that stuff up if you're going to have any 973 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 19: chance to be good. Believe me, they understand the negative 974 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 19: impact of the mistakes and the slow happiness and some 975 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 19: of the stuff that they did not execute. They absolutely 976 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 19: understand it. 977 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 17: Paul. 978 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 3: You've been around this organization for a very very long time, 979 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 3: very long time. 980 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 5: And. 981 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 3: The Giants this season, the twenty twenty four Giants have 982 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,000 Speaker 3: been historically bad in terms of some of the records 983 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,320 Speaker 3: that they've set. Is this a historically bad team or 984 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 3: is this a mistake ridden team, a team that's just 985 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 3: you know, didn't rise to the occasion, Like what did 986 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 3: we see this year? Ball? 987 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,080 Speaker 19: Well, first of all, my original box seats in the 988 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 19: stadium were next to George Washington, So let's get that 989 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 19: out of the way first. George was a really nice 990 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 19: guy too. He used to buy me some beers. But 991 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:47,800 Speaker 19: in any case, no, this to me is a team 992 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:52,359 Speaker 19: that was at the start of the season had more 993 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 19: talent up and down the roster from a general perspective 994 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 19: than the playoff team in twenty twenty two. We've said 995 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,160 Speaker 19: that BBKL numerous times this year. But unfortunately, once the 996 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 19: confluence of events started to unravel, and once they got 997 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,279 Speaker 19: to the midpoint of the season and we knew contractually 998 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 19: that Daniel Jones was not going to be able to 999 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,800 Speaker 19: be the back anymore, that just sent things in the spiral. 1000 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 19: And I mean, I know it's not fair, but that's 1001 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 19: what happened, and that's the reality. So no, I do 1002 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 19: not believe this is a historically bad Giants team, despite 1003 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 19: what the record says. I take it back to eighty 1004 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 19: three when Bill Parcells was a rookie head coach. He 1005 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 19: was three, twelve and one, and everybody wanted to run 1006 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 19: him out of town, and George Young decided, after he 1007 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 19: flirted with Hallard Schnellenberger, to stick with Bill Parcells, and 1008 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,760 Speaker 19: the Giants came back the next year, won nine games 1009 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 19: and went to the playoffs. So I'm not saying this 1010 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,520 Speaker 19: team will do that, but what I'm saying is unlike 1011 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 19: what coach says. Coach Parcells used to say, you are 1012 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 19: not necessarily what your record it says you are. There 1013 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 19: are different levels of teams that have won an equal 1014 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 19: amount of games. I don't believe this is a typical 1015 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,839 Speaker 19: three win football team. I just don't, not when all 1016 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 19: their starters are on the field. 1017 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 2: Paul, Johnny Gusis and I will talk more about this 1018 00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 2: as we finished this post game show up today, but 1019 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 2: I want to give you it a chance before you 1020 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 2: get on the bus. And I don't want them to 1021 00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 2: leave you behind down there. But though I think you 1022 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 2: no knowing you, I think you would enjoy walking all 1023 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 2: the way back up from Philadelphia up along I ninety five. 1024 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,399 Speaker 2: I think that'll be right up your alley in this weather. 1025 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 2: I think you have true yes, But what for you 1026 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: aside from figuring out the quarterback position. 1027 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 18: Is? 1028 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: And you know you can even talk about that if 1029 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: you want to. Giant, Sorry, now looks like they're locked 1030 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 2: into the third pick in the draft. How do you 1031 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 2: think they should handle this offseason? What should their priority be? 1032 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 18: Is? 1033 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 2: How should they, in your opinion, handle free agency and 1034 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: the draft? Here as a head in the twenty twenty 1035 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 2: five so they wind up with a record much better 1036 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 2: than what they wound up within twenty twenty four. 1037 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 19: Yeah, Mike Caps will look at this in a very 1038 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 19: brief thumbnail. I would look to perhaps get as much 1039 00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 19: trade capital as I could to move down a few spots. 1040 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 19: That would be something I would seriously investigate if I 1041 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 19: wound up having to take that number three pick. First off, 1042 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 19: I will say this, I'm signing a veteran Bridge quarterback 1043 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 19: in free agency in March. That would be a big 1044 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:24,799 Speaker 19: clue as to how dire the Giants believe they need 1045 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 19: to draft a rookie quarterback high in the first round. 1046 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,319 Speaker 19: So let me get that veteran QB in place. Let 1047 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 19: me then try to get draft capital for the pick. 1048 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 19: If I'm forced to pick the number three pick, I'm 1049 00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 19: thinking about the corner, even perhaps the Washington Michigan defense aligneman. 1050 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 19: That's kind of where I'm looking, even a Michigan corner 1051 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,879 Speaker 19: if the hunter is gone, That's kind of where I'm 1052 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 19: starting this whole thing. I know there's a lot of 1053 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 19: people going to disagree, and that's okay. That's why they 1054 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 19: have different flavors of ice cream. At one of the 1055 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 19: big ice cream change in the country. 1056 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 2: Right, Paul, awesome stuff, My friend, have a stafe trip 1057 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 2: back up from Philly. Thank you for being with us 1058 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 2: all year round and our eyes and ears in the 1059 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 2: locker room every game day. We appreciate it, my friend, 1060 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 2: appreciate you, Paul. 1061 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 19: Guys, we're a team, we appreciate each other, and it's 1062 00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,200 Speaker 19: going to be with you. Look forward to next season. 1063 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 2: Thank you, Paul. That's Paul the Tino down there in Philadelphia. 1064 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 2: He's been with us all year as our eyes and 1065 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 2: ears again postgame in the locker room, joining us on 1066 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 2: all these postgame shows. Home and road roade a lot 1067 00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,200 Speaker 2: more abbreviated, but home. He's on with us a lot. 1068 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,320 Speaker 2: So we thank Paul and we wish him and the 1069 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 2: rest of the Giants organization safe travels up from Philadelphia. 1070 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 2: Giants Football is brought to you by our local Ford Stores. 1071 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:39,240 Speaker 2: One engine drives this team for current offers, visit Byford 1072 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,719 Speaker 2: Now dot Com Forward official truck of the Giants. Time out, 1073 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 2: we'll come back, wrap things up on our network, and 1074 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 2: then I'll welcome up the phone lines to the folks 1075 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:49,799 Speaker 2: here in New York when we return on Giants Extra 1076 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,399 Speaker 2: point Giants fall to the Eagles twenty to thirteen. We'll 1077 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:52,919 Speaker 2: be right back. 1078 00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 10: You're listening to Giants Extra Point on the Bobs Discount Furniture, 1079 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 10: Wfan Giants Rady Network. 1080 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 7: This is Tyrone Tracy Jr. And you're listening to the 1081 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,320 Speaker 7: radio home of Big Blue the Fan, wf AN and 1082 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 7: w Fan FM, New. 1083 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 2: York Backyard Giants Extra Point. Giants fall to the Philadelphia 1084 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 2: Eagles twenty to thirteen in the regular season finale. They 1085 00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 2: now fall to three and fourteen on the year. Their 1086 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,879 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four season is over. Today's statistics are brought 1087 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,440 Speaker 2: to you by the Archdiocese of New York. Learn more 1088 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,960 Speaker 2: at Inner City NYC dot or you take a look 1089 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 2: at the Giants in this game. We'll look at the 1090 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 2: team stats first. The Eagles, you know, they really dominated 1091 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 2: the first half of the game. The Giants played much 1092 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 2: better in half number two. When all is said and done, 1093 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 2: the Eagles only outgained the Giants by sixty five yards 1094 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,600 Speaker 2: three hundred and three to two hundred and thirty eight. 1095 00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 2: Eagles three or fourteen on third downs, Giants four to fourteen, 1096 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,200 Speaker 2: Giants two or four on fourth downs, including a fake 1097 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,760 Speaker 2: punt that converted a fourth down in this game. Eagles 1098 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 2: one of two on fourth downs in this game. Giants 1099 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 2: did not score a touchdown in their lone red zone appearance. 1100 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 2: The Eagles were two of four in the red zone 1101 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,720 Speaker 2: in this game. Neither team I believe committed a turnover 1102 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,720 Speaker 2: no juw lock at the very end the last intercession 1103 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,839 Speaker 2: by Locks of the Giants did lose the turnover battle again, 1104 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 2: which means they've only won the turnover battle in one 1105 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 2: game this year. That was last week's win against the 1106 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 2: Indianapolis Colts. For the Giants, juw Lock twenty two of 1107 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,960 Speaker 2: twenty nine, one hundred and thirty eight yards, one touchdown, 1108 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,839 Speaker 2: one interception, Tyrone Tracy fourteen carries fifty nine yards, Devin 1109 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 2: Singletary's seven carries twenty two yards, Dame Bilton had that 1110 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 2: won fake punt rush for ten yards, and Eric Gray 1111 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 2: one rush for six yards. Wanda Robinson ten catches, but 1112 00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,720 Speaker 2: just forty three yards of four point three yard average 1113 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 2: along of nine at its little nuts a Leak neighbors 1114 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 2: five catches sixty four yards, including that forty five yard 1115 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 2: touchdown grab, two catches nine yards for Daniel Bellinger Tracy, 1116 00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 2: a pair of catches seven yards. Chris Manhert said that 1117 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 2: sixteen yard grabs long at of the year. Then one 1118 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 2: catch apiece for Eric Gray and Devin Singletary, three puns 1119 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 2: for Jamie Gillen for the Eagles. Tanner McKee twenty seven 1120 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 2: to forty one, two hundred and sixty nine yards, two touchdowns, 1121 00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 2: no interceptions. Nice game for him. You wonder if the 1122 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 2: Eagles think about him as their backup next year in 1123 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,399 Speaker 2: place of Kenny Pickett based on how both those guys 1124 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,720 Speaker 2: have played over the past couple of weeks. Will Shipley 1125 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 2: ten rushes thirty two yards, Kenny Gainwell eleven rushes fourteen 1126 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 2: yards for the Eagles. Johan Dotson's seven catches ninety four yards, 1127 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,800 Speaker 2: four catches fifty five yards for Dallas Goddard, four catches 1128 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,440 Speaker 2: thirty five yards for Nia Smith. He had a touchdown 1129 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,239 Speaker 2: in that game from fifteen yards out. Will Shipley four 1130 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 2: catches thirty five yards, three catches twenty four yards for 1131 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 2: the big wide receiver slash kind of tight end this guy, 1132 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 2: Johnny Wilson Grant Calcacara two catches ten yards, two catches 1133 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 2: nine yards for Kenny Gainwell and Jenkins. The big tight 1134 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 2: end e J. Jenkins one catch seven yards. His first 1135 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 2: ever career catch was also his first ever touchdown, grab 1136 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:47,160 Speaker 2: from seven yards out. Defensively for these two teams, not 1137 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,600 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on the quarterback for either of 1138 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 2: the two teams in this game. For the Giants, Keevon 1139 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: Thibodau finished with a sack and a half three quarterback hits. 1140 00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 2: They gave Brian Burns a half sack. He had two 1141 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,800 Speaker 2: quarterback hits in this game as well. Eagles did not 1142 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 2: have sack in this game, so I'm resting a lot 1143 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,879 Speaker 2: of their primary defensive lineman, the Jordan Davis did play 1144 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,360 Speaker 2: in this game. The Eagles did not really touch the 1145 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 2: Giant quarterbacks. Just two quarterback hits for the Eagles in 1146 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: this game against the New York Football Giants. So JC, 1147 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 2: before we say goodbye to our network and then again 1148 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna stick with your locally on our flag ship station, 1149 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,160 Speaker 2: just give me your final thoughts on the year and 1150 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,520 Speaker 2: what's ahead here for the Giants as we wrap up 1151 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 2: our network here. 1152 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 3: Well, very disappointing season. I think we all know that, 1153 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,719 Speaker 3: and we see that on a consistent basis. Disappointing end too, 1154 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 3: to kind of stamp the level of disappointment that we've 1155 00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 3: had collectively, as you know, people that's cheering on and 1156 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 3: rooting on a great organization and the New York Football Giants. 1157 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what's next because you know, 1158 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,360 Speaker 3: there's a huge day coming up tomorrow, you know, and 1159 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 3: I think once that gets cleared, you know, then it's 1160 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 3: looking forward to the future. But if you know something 1161 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 3: happens to all, you know, then there's more questions that 1162 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:04,160 Speaker 3: need to be asked, you know. 1163 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 2: And by the way, just so fans understand, just so 1164 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 2: they know the rules for any team that makes a 1165 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,400 Speaker 2: coaching change this year, you can only do virtual interviews 1166 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: this week. You cannot interview anyone in person until after 1167 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,240 Speaker 2: the divisional round of the playoffs, so two weeks. Correct. 1168 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,799 Speaker 2: They don't want to because I feel like I think 1169 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 2: the NFL thought they were giving disadvantages to the teams 1170 00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:29,600 Speaker 2: that were going deeper in the playoffs, so those coordinators 1171 00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 2: couldn't get interviewed until they were out of it. So 1172 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 2: they're trying to even that playing team playing field. Again, 1173 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 2: that applies to all teams, just so fans understand the rules. 1174 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then when you look at the roster, the 1175 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 3: Giants have to get better all around. It's not one 1176 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:47,000 Speaker 3: specific position. There's not offense or defense. Uh, it's you 1177 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,200 Speaker 3: got to bring better players in here, you know, because 1178 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, it's not always about 1179 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 3: your start. It's about who's backing them up sometimes. You know, 1180 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 3: you got to have depth. You know, it's not for long. 1181 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,040 Speaker 3: It's not just you know you're in and out the league. 1182 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 3: It's your in and out of gas. You know, you're 1183 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,759 Speaker 3: in and out of the season. You know, you could 1184 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 3: be you know, fine for the first half and then 1185 00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:09,400 Speaker 3: you're out. You know, but you got to have good backups. 1186 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 3: You gotta have guys that's ready to play. You know, 1187 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 3: this Giants team played an Eagles team that rest of 1188 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,360 Speaker 3: their starters and they lost. You know, they have depth 1189 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,560 Speaker 3: there in Philly. They've been at depth for a while now, 1190 00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:23,040 Speaker 3: you know. So the Giants lost to a team that 1191 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 3: you know, bench their starters. So the Giants have a 1192 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,919 Speaker 3: ways to go. It's not one position. It's not say 1193 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,320 Speaker 3: bring a quarterback in here and now things are gonna 1194 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:32,640 Speaker 3: be good. 1195 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 11: No. 1196 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 3: I think a mentality has to be shifted. I think 1197 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,960 Speaker 3: a focus on a division has to be shifted. You 1198 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 3: need to draft, handle, free agency, handle every single day 1199 00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 3: as you're training, like you're trying to beat the Commanders, 1200 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 3: the Eagles or the Cowboys, you know, in personally, this 1201 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 3: is what I used to do. I remember one year 1202 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 3: we had Marshawn Lynch on the schedule and I remember 1203 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 3: playing against Marshawn before that. All off season, I was 1204 00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 3: dead lifting and squat and think about tackling Marshawn. We 1205 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,640 Speaker 3: really yea swear, you know, like you got to have 1206 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 3: a different mindset, you know, like all of these younger 1207 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 3: guys that play for their first year this year, now 1208 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,760 Speaker 3: they understand what it takes to survive an NFL season, 1209 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 3: which is a marathon. It's a long way. The first 1210 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 3: you know, when you start, you start back in late July, 1211 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 3: that was a long time ago. That was two seasons ago, 1212 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 3: you know, and you're playing games on a weekly basis, 1213 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,080 Speaker 3: but you're at practice every single day. You have to 1214 00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 3: have the right mental approach to it. You have to 1215 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 3: have the right physical approach to it. You have to 1216 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 3: be all in tune. You have to be locked in. 1217 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 3: So hopefully these guys, all of these young guys, as 1218 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,360 Speaker 3: the Giants still have a young roster. Hopefully these young 1219 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 3: guys learn how to be a professional this year and 1220 00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 3: next year. You know, the Giants got to hit it 1221 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 3: out the park I think in free agency, and they 1222 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 3: also got to hit it out the park in the 1223 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 3: draft for them to have some type of you know, competitiveness. 1224 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 3: When it comes to the Division, I don't even want 1225 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 3: to look at who else the Giants play. I don't care. 1226 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 3: I care about how they do it in a division 1227 00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 3: because if you do well in Division, I think you'll 1228 00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 3: do well during the year. 1229 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'll get fans an idea who the Giants gonna 1230 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 2: play next year, just so we have that. Uh, A 1231 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 2: couple of these games or teams opponents are based on 1232 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 2: tige breakers. So I don't want to give you the 1233 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 2: exact team yet, but I'll give you an idea of 1234 00:58:16,040 --> 00:58:17,400 Speaker 2: one of two teams that could be in some of 1235 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 2: these situations. 1236 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 3: So and then when you're done with that, explain how 1237 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:20,360 Speaker 3: that works. 1238 00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:26,760 Speaker 2: Is I'm lost. It's really complicated. So the home schedule 1239 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 2: next year, it's a doozy. You have the three teams 1240 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 2: in the division, Dallas, Philadelphia, and Washington. Then the Packers 1241 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: are here, the Chiefs are here, the Chargers are here, 1242 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,040 Speaker 2: the Vikings are here. So of those seven teams I 1243 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 2: just mentioned, what are six of those seven teams have 1244 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 2: in common? They're all the playoffs. And the Dallas Cowboys, 1245 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 2: by the way, are a team that's been in the 1246 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 2: playoffs for the most part. They've only believe I saw 1247 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 2: the stat the other day and I couldn't believe when 1248 00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 2: I saw it did in the last twenty years they 1249 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: finished under four or five hundred just four times. Yeah, 1250 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 2: it's you know, they've been eight to eight a bunch 1251 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, but it was just a funny 1252 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 2: number that I saw. Then the other home opponent will 1253 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,840 Speaker 2: be the fourth place finisher in the NFC West. Those 1254 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 2: tie breakers between the forty nine Ers and Cardinals are pending, 1255 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 2: but there's I think a better than decent chance it's 1256 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 2: going to be the forty nine Ers, which means you 1257 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 2: get all playoff teams and then a team that was 1258 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 2: basically at the Super Bowl twice in the last four 1259 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:22,320 Speaker 2: years at hold so tough home schedule. The road games 1260 00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 2: will be Dallas, Philadelphia, Washington obviously, Chicago, Denver, Detroit, Las Vegas. 1261 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 2: So again, four playoff teams on the road schedule. Then 1262 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 2: the AFC East win a fourth place finisher, which will 1263 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 2: be either the Patriots or the Jets, again depending on 1264 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 2: what the Jets do against the Dolphins, that could determine that. 1265 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 2: And then the NFC South last place finisher, which do 1266 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 2: we know that for sure? I thot is either gonna 1267 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 2: be the Panthers or the Saints. Who is gonna be 1268 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 2: the Saints, So it's probably gonna be at New Orleans 1269 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,640 Speaker 2: we're waiting again for that's gonna be strength of victory, 1270 00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 2: Thank you, Matstopski. By the way, that'll be strength the 1271 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 2: victory type between the Saints and the Bucks because they 1272 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 2: have identical they're one and one head to head, they 1273 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 2: have identical division records, they have identical common opponent record. 1274 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 2: So strength of victory, is my understanding, is the next 1275 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 2: tie breaker in that and that might not even been 1276 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,919 Speaker 2: decided it depending on what happens in the four o'clock games. 1277 01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,120 Speaker 2: And I don't know if either one of those teams 1278 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 2: played the the Lions or the Vikings tonight, so I'm 1279 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,640 Speaker 2: not even gonna don't try to figure that out, Matt, 1280 01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,400 Speaker 2: don't waste your time. We'll know, but those are gonna 1281 01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:31,440 Speaker 2: be the Giants opponents next season. So needless to say, 1282 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 2: they play the NFC North, which is one of the 1283 01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 2: two best divisions of football. The NFC North and the 1284 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 2: AFC North are the two best divisions in my humble opinion, 1285 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 2: and then the AFC West, which has three teams going 1286 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 2: to the playoffs. So good times. 1287 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm looking at what you're looking at right now. Yeah, 1288 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,680 Speaker 3: And it says AFC East TV determined. 1289 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 2: Is that that's the team that finishes in the same 1290 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 2: place as we do. 1291 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking, and any of these things. 1292 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,680 Speaker 3: And this is my first time seeing here all. 1293 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 2: And that is the bonus seventeenth game. So we used 1294 01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 2: to have sixteen games, it would just be NFC East, 1295 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,400 Speaker 2: NFC North, AFC West, that would be all sixteen games. 1296 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 2: This is the bonus seventeenth game against the other conference, 1297 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 2: against the same team that finished in the same place 1298 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,960 Speaker 2: as you and that rotates each year, which AFC division 1299 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 2: that is against. 1300 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 3: I like the format. I like the format, like tonight, right, 1301 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 3: everybody's watching that game tonight. Yeah, the Vikings versus the Lions. Right, 1302 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,960 Speaker 3: it's literally for the number one spot in the playoffs, either. 1303 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,080 Speaker 2: One or five. That's the big deal. It's either you 1304 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 2: get a buy or you're on the road week one 1305 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 2: right against by the way, a Bucks team that's a 1306 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 2: pain in the butt, Like there, big team. 1307 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 3: I definitely don't want to go down a Tampa and 1308 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 3: play Baker is gonna put up thirty points? 1309 01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 2: How much diould Phil Sims love Baker Mayfield by the way, 1310 01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 2: Phil Sims loves him and Baker Mayfield bad. 1311 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 3: I'll tell you what though, this is a great time 1312 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 3: and the year just sucks that we're not having a 1313 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 3: conversation about who we're playing next week. If we're sitting 1314 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 3: guys this week like like we were two years ago. 1315 01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hopefully we we have. Hopefully those are the 1316 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,360 Speaker 2: heap of conversations we'll be having in twenty twenty five. 1317 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 2: Jac Thank you very much, my friend. 1318 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 17: Folks. 1319 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 2: That's all the time we have on our radio network 1320 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:12,440 Speaker 2: for this season. Thank you so much to all of 1321 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:14,560 Speaker 2: our affiliates across the country for being with us in 1322 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 2: the Giants Radio network all year round. We really appreciate 1323 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 2: you guys being with us and all the fans out 1324 01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 2: there that are not in the Tri State area listening 1325 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 2: to our broadcast and I come on a lot of 1326 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 2: our affiliate stations over the course of the year as well. 1327 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,160 Speaker 2: I'm happy to do it, and we hope the for 1328 01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 2: the Giant fans out they we bring you a little 1329 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 2: bit closer to the Giants, even though you're not living 1330 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:36,439 Speaker 2: in that Connecticut, New York, New Jersey area. Our next 1331 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 2: broadcast is next year. It'll be some time in August 1332 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 2: when the Giants play in the preseason. Who knows, it 1333 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 2: could be the Hall of Fame game. If Eli Manning 1334 01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 2: makes the Hall of Fame, he's up for the Hall 1335 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 2: of Fame. We'll see if that happens on the first ballot. 1336 01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 2: And then who knows Baber were on the Hall of 1337 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:50,960 Speaker 2: Fame game. I don't know, We'll have to find out, 1338 01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 2: but either way, stay tuned for when the Giants next 1339 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 2: play in twenty twenty five. And again, thank you so 1340 01:02:57,240 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 2: much for being with us all year round on the 1341 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Giants Radio Network. For Johnathan can see us n our 1342 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 2: entire crew. I am John Schmilck. We'll see you next 1343 01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 2: year on the Bob's Discount Furniture Wfan Giants Radio Network. 1344 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 17: But we are not done on our. 1345 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 2: Flagship station WFN in New York and CS and I 1346 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,040 Speaker 2: will be with you for the next forty five minutes 1347 01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,480 Speaker 2: or so, taking your calls. At eight eight eight eight 1348 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,880 Speaker 2: oh eight one zero one nine eight eight eight eight 1349 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:24,600 Speaker 2: oh eight one zero one nine, we'll have some more 1350 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 2: audio from the locker room and we'll talk more about 1351 01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 2: the implications of where the Giants are selecting in the 1352 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 2: NFL draft, what they might want to do in free agency, 1353 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 2: how they addressed the quarterback position, all the fun stuff 1354 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,280 Speaker 2: that and more. When we come back with you right 1355 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 2: here on the fan in New York, tam. 1356 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 17: Shot gun, sat pain roller is right. 1357 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,520 Speaker 15: Bus format should laugh if they working a hard count 1358 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 15: out to see if the Giants will up. 1359 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 17: Audiblizing at the line I comes to the line. 1360 01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 3: Giants jump, oh buggy pastor what are you thinking? 1361 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,040 Speaker 17: What are you thinking? 1362 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 2: And that was the Giants turning point of the game. 1363 01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 2: Listened to Boomer and Geo on our flagstip Station Wfan 1364 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 2: on Tomorrow morning in the nine am hour for the 1365 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Giants Turning point contest. The first cret call a name 1366 01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,400 Speaker 2: of the game's turning point. But what an autographed item 1367 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,040 Speaker 2: by a Giants player. We had trouble with this one 1368 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 2: today because they the Eagles went up ten nothing early. 1369 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 2: The Giants made little bit of a comeback, but we 1370 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 2: felt like the Giants had some momentum. They had cut 1371 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,360 Speaker 2: it to a one score lead, they were about to 1372 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,200 Speaker 2: get the ball back. The Eagles were clearly just going 1373 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,280 Speaker 2: to try to run the clock out on a fourth 1374 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,640 Speaker 2: and three at the Giants forty one yard line. They 1375 01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 2: were just trying to draw the Giants off side and 1376 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 2: then either go forward or punt, and if the Giants 1377 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:56,560 Speaker 2: do stop them there, they get the ball back. They 1378 01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 2: have all three of their timeouts with just under two 1379 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 2: minutes to go, with the chance to win or tie 1380 01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,360 Speaker 2: the game. At that point, it was seventeen thirteen Eagles 1381 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:10,720 Speaker 2: and boogie bashum. Inexplicably, despite the fact everyone knew that's 1382 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 2: what the Eagles are trying to do, somehow managerers still 1383 01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 2: fall for a snap count and jump off sides in 1384 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 2: that situation. So we thought giving out the season's gone, 1385 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,200 Speaker 2: that that was a fitting turning point of the game 1386 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 2: in the Giants twenty to thirteen loss to the Philadelphia Eagles. 1387 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,440 Speaker 2: Eight ana eit one zero one nine. Schmelk casie us 1388 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 2: with you. We'll take your calls for the next forty 1389 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,080 Speaker 2: five minutes or so. Let's start it off with our 1390 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:40,720 Speaker 2: buddy Wilson in Roxbury, who promised me he would be 1391 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 2: at Tommy's today. He did not show up, and I'm 1392 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 2: not sure I can forgive you for that. 1393 01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was expecting you. 1394 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:50,640 Speaker 23: I wanted to go so bad, Johnny, I swear you 1395 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 23: know what. I got home at three in the morning 1396 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 23: yesterday from Long Island in Wilson. 1397 01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 2: What were you doing? Was it a night at the 1398 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:58,600 Speaker 2: Roxbury for you? 1399 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 16: It was? 1400 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,520 Speaker 23: It was it was my It was my my wife's birthday, 1401 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 23: right and we went to see my my middle daughter 1402 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 23: that she listened called my Long Island. 1403 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Oh that's great, you know, because. 1404 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 23: She started in law school over there. So what happened? 1405 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 2: Congratulations, Johnny? 1406 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 23: I am so sorry. 1407 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 2: See Wilson. Now see now I know where the arguing 1408 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 2: skills came from. 1409 01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 17: Your daughter's gonna be a lawyer. 1410 01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 2: See, this is in the family, man. 1411 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:24,480 Speaker 23: You guys just like to argue, and I love it, 1412 01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 23: you know, Johnny. 1413 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 2: You know what. 1414 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,479 Speaker 23: Listen, Thank God you's gonna be a lawyer, man, because 1415 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 23: you know I need a lawyer like every year. 1416 01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that does not surprise me. A lot of defadation 1417 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:37,720 Speaker 2: lawsuits covered your wife, Wilson. 1418 01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:46,560 Speaker 19: Libel, slander, Johnny listen, John Dan dear Madow, what's that? Listen? 1419 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 23: You know what, Jenny, you know what the other day 1420 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 23: I said something and you got a little upset. I mean, 1421 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,520 Speaker 23: I'm sorry. I didn't mean, you know, I remember that 1422 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 23: I said to you about the head coach and the 1423 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 23: general manager. Then nothing was personal. You know that. I'm 1424 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 23: sure this guy's are good guys. 1425 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:05,520 Speaker 2: And I said, I understand your perspective. I was just 1426 01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 2: trying to I was just trying to make that specific 1427 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 2: point you made out about judging a guy's personality based 1428 01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,520 Speaker 2: on how press conference and sometimes isn't the best way 1429 01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 2: to judge you guys personality. 1430 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 23: That was only I'm sorry, and I'm sorry. 1431 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 2: Apologize. 1432 01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 23: Listen, Jenny, Okay, in a sorry right. You know, the 1433 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,040 Speaker 23: rector is what the rector is, and and and Bob 1434 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 23: bob By We just Bob is the best and Carl 1435 01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:31,800 Speaker 23: Bank is one of the best giants ever. He they 1436 01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,360 Speaker 23: said that they said something's gotta change, something's got to change, 1437 01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 23: and they didn't want to go to it s Pacific, 1438 01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 23: but we all know that something's got to change. This 1439 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 23: is what this is the dilemma that John Myra is 1440 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 23: gonna have. Jenny, let's just say that. 1441 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 19: I don't know. 1442 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,360 Speaker 23: Let's just say that he brings everybody back, right, Let's 1443 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 23: just say that for a minute. Okay, play with me 1444 01:07:51,560 --> 01:07:52,680 Speaker 23: for a minute, Johnny. 1445 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 2: We're playing what happens. 1446 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 19: What happens if they start owing to next year? 1447 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 23: See, this is thema that John marraha when it's start 1448 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,480 Speaker 23: only too Johnny, Johnny, you know what's gonna happen. So 1449 01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,040 Speaker 23: so that's that's the dilemma that John I don't I 1450 01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 23: wouldn't want to be in John Marra's shoes right now. 1451 01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:12,840 Speaker 23: And I said it before, you know, I told you that, 1452 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,000 Speaker 23: I told you this, and I told Jonathan this. He 1453 01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,599 Speaker 23: has tried, and he has tried. By Johnny today today, 1454 01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,479 Speaker 23: what I say, five six o'clock in the afternoon on Sunday, 1455 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 23: it's a hard sell to to for giant fans like 1456 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 23: myself to even contemplate this. This all the same team 1457 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,080 Speaker 23: coming back next year. You know, the coaches, the coaches 1458 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,240 Speaker 23: up in general. Because if it's if it's a clean 1459 01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,519 Speaker 23: if it cleans, it's got it's gotta be like a 1460 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 23: clean plate. Everybody's gotta go. I'm I don't want to 1461 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:44,520 Speaker 23: say that because everybody's got families, but on football context only, Johnny. 1462 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,760 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. We got a lot of calls. 1463 01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:50,040 Speaker 2: I want to try to get as many guys as 1464 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,920 Speaker 2: we can here. I either say where you're coming from 1465 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,559 Speaker 2: the results obviously of not being good. I get your 1466 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 2: point of view, jac and I obviously we have a 1467 01:08:57,720 --> 01:08:59,679 Speaker 2: lot of respect for Joe and Brian. We know them personally, 1468 01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,599 Speaker 2: They're dudes. We be hoped, you know, we hope they're back. 1469 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,320 Speaker 2: We think they're great guys. But look, the results have 1470 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,840 Speaker 2: to be better. And if you do bring them back 1471 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 2: and you start owing to next year, you have to 1472 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 2: and I don't think John Mallow had handled this way. 1473 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 2: You have to have, you know, more belief than that. 1474 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:16,639 Speaker 2: It can't just be like, oh, well, we don't really believe. 1475 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,599 Speaker 2: So after two weeks you're out, like, that's not how 1476 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 2: you can approach this, right that, that's not how you 1477 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: should go about this, That's not that's not what different 1478 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,760 Speaker 2: great Well fans might be asking for. That, but that's 1479 01:09:25,840 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 2: not how a confident organization runs, right. So I get 1480 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 2: where you're coming from on that, And look, we'll find 1481 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,360 Speaker 2: out over the next couple of days if any of 1482 01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:35,639 Speaker 2: those decisions are made. We just don't know what they're 1483 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:39,000 Speaker 2: gonna do with those decisions, though there are some breaking 1484 01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 2: news around the league. The Patriots did make one of 1485 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 2: those very tough decisions already after just one year, letting 1486 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 2: go of head coach Drawd Mayo, showing that maybe the 1487 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:50,080 Speaker 2: grass is not always greener after you let go of 1488 01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick. 1489 01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's interesting. I mean, that's like it just 1490 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:55,439 Speaker 3: ended the game an hour ago. 1491 01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously, and all the you know, National guys 1492 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,679 Speaker 2: to the question where they and I believe I believe 1493 01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,599 Speaker 2: they were in New England. They were wearing their blues today, 1494 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,280 Speaker 2: so I believe they were in Yes, you know, he 1495 01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:07,719 Speaker 2: was home. 1496 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, he get to go home. He 1497 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 3: got a beautiful house. I've been over time. He had 1498 01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 3: a beautiful house. I don't know if he's still there, 1499 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 3: he's still got the same house, but I'm sure we 1500 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:16,519 Speaker 3: were teammates. 1501 01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 2: And look, look, Mike Gray, and look it's not very great. Well, 1502 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:20,720 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, all the National guys are now 1503 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 2: mentioning Mike Rabel as a potential replacement there as someone 1504 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 2: that obviously never believe it, I never coached under Bill Belichick. 1505 01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:30,519 Speaker 2: Then Mike Raybillli played under Bill Belichick, so uh, that's 1506 01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 2: a guy that is obviously gonna be one of the 1507 01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 2: hotter names in the coaching cycle, and there will be 1508 01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 2: other jobs as well. I don't know if fans care 1509 01:10:38,439 --> 01:10:41,120 Speaker 2: enough for me to read any of this, uh statement 1510 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 2: from Robert Kraft. I won't do that. I don't think 1511 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,559 Speaker 2: it's necessary. I want to make sure we get as 1512 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 2: many giant calls in as we possibly can. At eighty 1513 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,800 Speaker 2: eight eighty eight, one zero one nine. Uh, let's go 1514 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,960 Speaker 2: to Craigan Freehold. He's on next. Hi, Craig, Hey, guys, 1515 01:10:56,120 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 2: are what's going on? 1516 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,040 Speaker 13: I'm much so much. I'm just happy to get the 1517 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 13: stench of the season over with. We're just all looking 1518 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,840 Speaker 13: forward to the offseason and getting this team better. 1519 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:06,360 Speaker 19: Yep. 1520 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 13: I got admit. I was a little upset last week 1521 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,479 Speaker 13: when they off the number one pick, but honestly, I'm 1522 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,639 Speaker 13: quite happy being number three because now they're guaranteed either 1523 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,560 Speaker 13: one of the two quarterbacks if they like them, or 1524 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,599 Speaker 13: the probably the best player in a draft in Travis Shonster. 1525 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,280 Speaker 13: So I feel like there was a good spot A 1526 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,880 Speaker 13: couple of questions for you. I do like what Paul 1527 01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,479 Speaker 13: said earlier about trading back and gaining draft capital, so 1528 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,760 Speaker 13: I'll be curious to see how that works out. I'm 1529 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 13: also not really sure if I really want Shane leading 1530 01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,160 Speaker 13: away there. I'm really a fifty to fifty on him. 1531 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 2: Man. 1532 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,120 Speaker 13: He was terrible the first two years. This year he 1533 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 13: redeemed himself a bit. But you really can't script drafting 1534 01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 13: Elikue neighbors either, so I'm really kind of up in 1535 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 13: the air about him and Gable as well. Question for you, 1536 01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:49,840 Speaker 13: it might be too early to say, but what is 1537 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:54,479 Speaker 13: the draft formula for compensation picks? Because the Giants, plus 1538 01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:56,840 Speaker 13: the Kinnie and Barkley, who obviously had big Pro Bowl 1539 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 13: years and big contracts, they didn't bring anybody new wins, 1540 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:04,280 Speaker 13: so well they get to thirty tex No, right, No. 1541 01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 2: Remember the Giants did bring guys in the contracts might 1542 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 2: not have big been as big in and appreciate the call, Craig, 1543 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 2: really good question. I'm happy you have brought that up, 1544 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,759 Speaker 2: but I think this is a good time to address 1545 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 2: that the Giants did bring a bunch of free agents 1546 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,040 Speaker 2: in this year. Now. Remember they brought John Runyan Jr. 1547 01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:19,120 Speaker 18: In. 1548 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,320 Speaker 2: They brought Jimmy and Aluminor in those are all guys 1549 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:25,840 Speaker 2: that influence into the compensation formula. Uh, they brought in 1550 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 2: Drew Locke and Devin Singletary, they go into the compensation formula. Now, 1551 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:31,920 Speaker 2: since Ben Brettison ended up playing so much for the 1552 01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 2: Bucks this year, he is also included in that compensation formula. 1553 01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 2: So right now over the cap, Nick Corte, right, I 1554 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,120 Speaker 2: believe it is his name, does a great job kind 1555 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,400 Speaker 2: of tracking that, and he's anticipating the Giants will get 1556 01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:47,960 Speaker 2: one fourth round pick in as a compensation pick this 1557 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 2: year for the Zabra McKinney contract. The other free agent 1558 01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,960 Speaker 2: signings were all canceled out by again the lock run 1559 01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,160 Speaker 2: you in illuminor Singletary contract this offseason, so it looks 1560 01:12:56,360 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 2: like it again this is a very hazy formula that's 1561 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 2: not public that the NFL uses and you were kind 1562 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:06,120 Speaker 2: of doing our best guesses, and the best guess right 1563 01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:10,120 Speaker 2: out there from unaffiliated experts is that the Giants would 1564 01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 2: get awarded a fourth round compensatory pick this year. They'll 1565 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,679 Speaker 2: get an extra four in this year's draft for these 1566 01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,360 Speaker 2: Avin McKinnie. That of course will come at the end 1567 01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 2: of the fourth round, so basically end the fourth round, 1568 01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:21,519 Speaker 2: you know, first pick of the fifth round, that type 1569 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,759 Speaker 2: of area when you're looking at picks, and now Jacon, 1570 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,719 Speaker 2: I think I wanted to go to Craig there because 1571 01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 2: I thought he would transition us nicely to the draft. 1572 01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 2: The Giants appear to be locked into that third spot. 1573 01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 2: It looks like the Titans are gonna be selecting first, 1574 01:13:34,360 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 2: I believe, and the Browns will be selecting second as 1575 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,639 Speaker 2: it stands right now, and the Giants are the only 1576 01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 2: other team at three and fourteen, so they'll be selecting 1577 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:49,560 Speaker 2: third in this year's NFL draft. So I think we 1578 01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 2: believe talking about it that the Titans, the way they 1579 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 2: yo yo Will Levison and out of the starting lineup 1580 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,000 Speaker 2: this year, I don't think they're sticking with him, so 1581 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 2: they're in the market for quarterback. The Browns did mess 1582 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 2: around with the Shawn Watson's contract to extend it with 1583 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,720 Speaker 2: more void years so they could eventually let him go. 1584 01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:11,479 Speaker 2: It's less of a penalty, but it doesn't seem like 1585 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 2: that means they're going to let him go this year. 1586 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:13,880 Speaker 19: Now. 1587 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean he's coming in as a starter next year, 1588 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:17,559 Speaker 2: and they're not going to try to draft the next quarterback. 1589 01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,519 Speaker 2: So I think there's a good chance that the Browns 1590 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,160 Speaker 2: will be in the quarterback market there too, which means 1591 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 2: a Giants select third and to the caller's point, you 1592 01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 2: have Travis Hunter won the Heisman Trophy full time corner 1593 01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,760 Speaker 2: and full time wide receiver in college. That's not something 1594 01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 2: you can do in the national football You just can't 1595 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,400 Speaker 2: play that many snatch. You can't be in both the 1596 01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:38,200 Speaker 2: meetings at the same time. They play both the right 1597 01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:40,800 Speaker 2: and you're practicing at the same time on both sides 1598 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,720 Speaker 2: of the ball too. So that doesn't mean you can't 1599 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,439 Speaker 2: be a full time corner and then get a small 1600 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 2: package and offense of you know, a half dozen two 1601 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,519 Speaker 2: a dozen plays a game where you come in in 1602 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,880 Speaker 2: the most critical spots, whether it's you know, two minute 1603 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:53,720 Speaker 2: drill where the plays are simpler and you maybe you 1604 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,360 Speaker 2: can play in those situations, big third down plays, shot 1605 01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,360 Speaker 2: plays on play action on it early down, you want 1606 01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,800 Speaker 2: him on the field, something like that. So Travis Hunter's 1607 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:04,000 Speaker 2: the possibility. Abdul Carter, the pass rusher from Penn State, 1608 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 2: to me, is the other really really good position player 1609 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 2: in this draft. Paulatino mentioned Will Johnson that tied the 1610 01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,680 Speaker 2: cornerback at a Michigan. Mason Grahm, the defensive tackle out 1611 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 2: of Michigan's another player. I don't think he's in play 1612 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,760 Speaker 2: for the Giants, but you can argue Ashton Genty might 1613 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 2: be the best player in college football this year, but 1614 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 2: as a running back, I don't see him as a 1615 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,360 Speaker 2: top ten pick and a target for the Giants that 1616 01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:24,640 Speaker 2: the readier to throw him out. There is a very 1617 01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 2: good position player that I think is an excellent football player. 1618 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 2: He'll go. I think he'll probably go somewhere between fifteen 1619 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,840 Speaker 2: and twenty probably something like that. 1620 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:34,960 Speaker 3: That he had the best stats this year. But is 1621 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 3: he is the best back coming out? Yes, yes, okay, 1622 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,200 Speaker 3: because I like, you know, I don't pay attention to 1623 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,040 Speaker 3: college football like that. I know his numbers of course, 1624 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,000 Speaker 3: because he was killing it all. 1625 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 2: No, he likes said he believe he had twice as 1626 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,200 Speaker 2: many broken tackles than like any other collective draft eligible 1627 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:50,160 Speaker 2: running back or something like that. 1628 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,400 Speaker 3: No, he's he's gonna run well, probably because there's always 1629 01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 3: somebody in that draft, whether he's you know, split time 1630 01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 3: this year or you know, maybe had a slow star 1631 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,560 Speaker 3: you know, maybe you know, didn't play because he was 1632 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,240 Speaker 3: heard or something like that. Runs a four to three 1633 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 3: and has a ten year career at running back in 1634 01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 3: the NFL. Like correct, I don't know if there's any 1635 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 3: other guys out there like that. 1636 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:13,680 Speaker 2: Then you have a couple other guys that through out there, 1637 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 2: so giant fans are familiar with them. Malki Starks is 1638 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,240 Speaker 2: safety safety huh. But again, I don't see him as 1639 01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,120 Speaker 2: a third overall pick because of the safety situation, not a. 1640 01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 3: Because I mean we didn't take Nubin until the second 1641 01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 3: round last year. He was the first safety off the board. 1642 01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 2: That is not a high value position, which Joe Shane 1643 01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,160 Speaker 2: takes very seriously. But again, I'm just mentioning the top 1644 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,320 Speaker 2: position players. People fans know who they are. Ted McMillan 1645 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,960 Speaker 2: out of Arizona six five, two hundred and ten pound 1646 01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:41,439 Speaker 2: wide receiver that is really good. He's a really good player, 1647 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:42,960 Speaker 2: and I think he would be a good compliment to 1648 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:44,479 Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors and the way he plays. 1649 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,760 Speaker 3: Did he like ball out against Colorado? Because I've seen 1650 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:47,600 Speaker 3: him play in a little bit. 1651 01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,639 Speaker 2: He's bowled out against everybody. His numbers are really really good. 1652 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,400 Speaker 2: And then you have the two edge rushers out of Georgia. 1653 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,320 Speaker 2: The two other guys out throw under. Jaylon Walker and 1654 01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 2: mikeil Williams are probably the other two guys that people 1655 01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,080 Speaker 2: are talking about as as top ten picks. So well, 1656 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,200 Speaker 2: that's kind of what you're looking at. It's not boys again, 1657 01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,519 Speaker 2: I would not necessarily, you know, when you look at 1658 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,439 Speaker 2: last year's top position players, the Marvin Harrison Juniors, the 1659 01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 2: Joe Waltz, the Molik Neighbors, the brock Bauers, the Roman 1660 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:13,639 Speaker 2: donzas that group of guys, I don't think I'm missing 1661 01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:16,280 Speaker 2: anyone from last year's draft class. I'm not sure I 1662 01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,759 Speaker 2: would put except for probably Travis Hunter and maybe Abdul 1663 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:24,439 Speaker 2: Carter in the group of that top position players last year, 1664 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 2: just in terms of how they're being graded out by 1665 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,160 Speaker 2: a lot of the you know, professional scouts out or 1666 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 2: the media scouts out there, and what I've watched on 1667 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,559 Speaker 2: tape so far from this college football season. But you'll 1668 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,080 Speaker 2: get to get a really good player at three. So 1669 01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if the Giants would try to move 1670 01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 2: up to one of those quarterbacks. If a quarterback slides, 1671 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 2: do you pick one? Maybe they love Jalen mirroly they 1672 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 2: pick him at three. Travis Hunter playing both ways. I 1673 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,040 Speaker 2: just do a million things at you. Yeah, take it 1674 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:48,320 Speaker 2: however you want to take it. 1675 01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,400 Speaker 3: Well, I mean the callers said that they're guaranteed to 1676 01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:54,360 Speaker 3: get their guy. That's that's not the case. They're guaranteed 1677 01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 3: to get a good pick. 1678 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 2: Well there, Garry, Well let me be this way, might not. 1679 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,920 Speaker 3: Be their guy because they still got two teams in 1680 01:17:58,920 --> 01:17:59,400 Speaker 3: front of him. 1681 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,680 Speaker 2: Well, I think his point is that if you're his 1682 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 2: assumption is that the top three players the Giants would 1683 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,320 Speaker 2: want would be that the top two quarterbacks can warden 1684 01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,120 Speaker 2: should or standers. We obviously don't know if this is true. 1685 01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:16,639 Speaker 2: This is the core assumption or travel. So the number three. Yeah, 1686 01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 2: I hear you. 1687 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 3: Look, I don't like that. This year, literally the last 1688 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,760 Speaker 3: what month of the season, all we've been talking about 1689 01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:30,400 Speaker 3: is the draft, the draft order. That's all everybody outside 1690 01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 3: of this building. 1691 01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,439 Speaker 2: But we could do it now because it's no more 1692 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:32,920 Speaker 2: games left. 1693 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,240 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, I would love to talk you know 1694 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,920 Speaker 3: what I mean during this time of the year. This 1695 01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 3: is why I'm quiet not listen to you, because you 1696 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:42,200 Speaker 3: do so much researcher in college, like you watching them 1697 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:45,679 Speaker 3: and then I try to You have an extensive package 1698 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,960 Speaker 3: that you put together, what two hundred and fifty players. 1699 01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:49,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't get that high. Last year. I think 1700 01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:51,439 Speaker 2: I got around one seventy five. 1701 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,400 Speaker 3: I mean close enough, bro, Like you know what I mean. 1702 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,240 Speaker 2: Like, So for me, I try to my goal is 1703 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 2: that after the first four rounds of the draft I've 1704 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 2: watched almost all of those guys that get drafted in 1705 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 2: the first four. Yeah, I always basically a dozen or so. 1706 01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:05,519 Speaker 2: But I try to guess that. 1707 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 3: It's not easy, right there, buddy. 1708 01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:09,640 Speaker 2: And by the way, if you guys want to know 1709 01:19:09,720 --> 01:19:12,679 Speaker 2: mark the draft, checkout Draft Season. It's our draft podcast 1710 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 2: for the Giants. You can just search your draft season 1711 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,520 Speaker 2: favorite podcast platform Giants dot Com, slash Podcast, Giants. 1712 01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,120 Speaker 3: App and and look, Schmokey does a great job. I mean, 1713 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,639 Speaker 3: we did a couple of schools last year. We did Wisconsin, 1714 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 3: I know we did. I think cow did you dubbed 1715 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 3: with a doons and Pennix? I remember doing that. 1716 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:29,960 Speaker 2: And for me, oh, I'm Big Blue Kegoff where you 1717 01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 2: do all views with college reporters gihnts little podcast too. 1718 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,320 Speaker 3: We do all the draft work, learning about some things 1719 01:19:35,400 --> 01:19:37,360 Speaker 3: I probably should have known, being that I went through 1720 01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:40,320 Speaker 3: the whole draft process, you know, but learning now. So 1721 01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:43,559 Speaker 3: for me, It's like I love to continue to give 1722 01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 3: out information as much as we can give my perspective 1723 01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 3: as a former player. But then every now and again, 1724 01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 3: where you know you start your body of work and 1725 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,240 Speaker 3: what you've done in your career, I just sit back 1726 01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:55,920 Speaker 3: and marvel, like man this due to be on top 1727 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,680 Speaker 3: of his game, like you know what I mean. So 1728 01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,599 Speaker 3: for me, I like this time of the year because 1729 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 3: I get to learn a lot more about players I 1730 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:05,479 Speaker 3: have no idea about. Because for me, it's like not 1731 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,839 Speaker 3: to say I don't care about them. I care about everybody, 1732 01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 3: but you know, for me, it don't matter until they 1733 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 3: make it to the league, you know, in terms of NFL, 1734 01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:15,320 Speaker 3: because I only cover the NFL. Yeah, of course, you 1735 01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Like I do work for the Giants, 1736 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 3: I do other shows and stuff like that, do some 1737 01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,320 Speaker 3: MG stuff, Like I only cover the the NFL, So 1738 01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 3: I don't really pay attention to college. For me, Schmell, 1739 01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 3: I can't. I can't do it, Like I just can't 1740 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:28,200 Speaker 3: focus in on it. 1741 01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 2: So putting the actual individual players aside. If I gave you, 1742 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,920 Speaker 2: if I told you you could either get a really 1743 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,400 Speaker 2: good corner or a really good defensive back or really 1744 01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,240 Speaker 2: good wide receiver. Assuming they're all equal, right, they're all equal. 1745 01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 2: I don't even throw an offensive lineman and they're like, 1746 01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:42,720 Speaker 2: I'm not sure any of the linemen this year. I 1747 01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 2: would rate that highly. If I give you those four 1748 01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,080 Speaker 2: in the draft, which position would you want to attack 1749 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:50,400 Speaker 2: without knowing, of course, what they didn't for this team. 1750 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:52,840 Speaker 3: For this team, I would go corner. I would go 1751 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 3: I would go corner. You know, I think Banks this 1752 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,800 Speaker 3: past year he struggled. This past year. We saw I 1753 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,280 Speaker 3: think a lot of promise out of him in his 1754 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 3: rookie year. 1755 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 2: And by the way, I even think this year, he 1756 01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,439 Speaker 2: stays in phase. He just doesn't make the plays in 1757 01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:09,760 Speaker 2: the ball when it's in the air. 1758 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 3: And these are things you learn when you're in college 1759 01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 3: and you're running stride for stride with most of these receivers, 1760 01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:18,720 Speaker 3: they're not gonna be able to catch the ball. 1761 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 2: In the NFL, especially as the quarterback. He's just put 1762 01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:22,439 Speaker 2: it in a place where they're able to catch it. 1763 01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 2: His quarterback. 1764 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 3: He's the NFL. They literally paid thirty million dollars a 1765 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,479 Speaker 3: year for guys to do that, and they do it 1766 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,320 Speaker 3: on a consistent basis. So hopefully he learns because he's 1767 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,640 Speaker 3: still young player, and I think he still has a 1768 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,760 Speaker 3: high ceiling that he can get to. But besides him, 1769 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,360 Speaker 3: even if he is better than he was, who else 1770 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,040 Speaker 3: Flot he went down again today? Did he finish the 1771 01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:44,800 Speaker 3: game Flot today? 1772 01:21:45,640 --> 01:21:46,640 Speaker 2: I'm not sure you know. 1773 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 3: And Drew Phillips, he's inside, so he's more of a 1774 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:55,400 Speaker 3: nickel cornerback. But the Giants, I think, I think in 1775 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:59,080 Speaker 3: order for you to be great on defense in this league, 1776 01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 3: you got to have a a great pass rush. And 1777 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:05,559 Speaker 3: I think the Giants got very two very good pass rushers, 1778 01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 3: one interior and Dexe Lawrence and one outside and uh 1779 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,080 Speaker 3: and Brian Burns. But you need corners, not one corner smell. 1780 01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:13,520 Speaker 3: You need corners. 1781 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:15,680 Speaker 2: Would you be willing to add another pass rusher even 1782 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:17,840 Speaker 2: though they have Burns in Thibodeau at the edge right now? 1783 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:21,160 Speaker 3: Not early? Like that, not that, not that number three pick. Overall, 1784 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 3: I think you need to get one of those top 1785 01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,840 Speaker 3: lockdown guys that comes in and can I'm not saying 1786 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,200 Speaker 3: be better than Banks, but like you gotta come in 1787 01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,280 Speaker 3: ready to go. If you're whoever they pick at number three, 1788 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,439 Speaker 3: regardless of position, you got to come in and be 1789 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:37,800 Speaker 3: ready to not only be a pretty good player, but 1790 01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:40,240 Speaker 3: you gotta be a great player for this team. 1791 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:42,960 Speaker 2: Adding and then JC, I don't disagree with you. I 1792 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,200 Speaker 2: also think adding a veteran to that secondary group would 1793 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,640 Speaker 2: be important. So if you're gonna spend big on one 1794 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,720 Speaker 2: player in free agency, corner might be the spot that 1795 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:53,320 Speaker 2: I would think about spending money. 1796 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 3: I'm with you, and you know what, that'll get cleared 1797 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,560 Speaker 3: up in the next two months because free agc is 1798 01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,439 Speaker 3: before the draft, correct, so we'll have a better idea 1799 01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,080 Speaker 3: of what's going on for the Giants, what's going around 1800 01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:05,960 Speaker 3: going on throughout the league, what's going on with the Titans, 1801 01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,880 Speaker 3: in the Browns, you know, seeing what they do in 1802 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,640 Speaker 3: free agency, if they had address the quarterback situation, if 1803 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,639 Speaker 3: they get corners, like whatever the situation is. But it's 1804 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,080 Speaker 3: the combination of both. 1805 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with him, Like you have to, you know, 1806 01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:19,680 Speaker 2: not only do. 1807 01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:22,679 Speaker 3: Well in this draft, but like like you said, past drafts, 1808 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 3: those players have to be developed, especially if you plan 1809 01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:27,519 Speaker 3: on keeping them for another year or two, some of 1810 01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,360 Speaker 3: these guys that were drafted in twenty twenty two and 1811 01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,040 Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. But I think you have to hit 1812 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,719 Speaker 3: free agency and the Giants have brought in good pieces 1813 01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. Brian Burns is one 1814 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 3: of the better players in the league. Bobbyocaraca was one 1815 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,320 Speaker 3: of the better middle linebackers in the league. Two free 1816 01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,360 Speaker 3: free agent acquisitions that I think, you know, the Giants 1817 01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:46,360 Speaker 3: hit out the park, but they have to continue to 1818 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,640 Speaker 3: do that. More veteran leadership in every single room, and 1819 01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,600 Speaker 3: then also very talented young guys that play. Kind of 1820 01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 3: how the twenty twenty four draft played out this year. 1821 01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:57,920 Speaker 2: All right, Joe and Sayerville want to talk about the 1822 01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 2: draft as well, So let's bring John and then we'll 1823 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:01,559 Speaker 2: take our next break. Joe, what's happening? 1824 01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:03,439 Speaker 19: Hey, guys, thank you? 1825 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,320 Speaker 24: Joan, what's up? Just throw up a hypothetical of if 1826 01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:09,920 Speaker 24: the Giants, let's just say they don't go quarterback at 1827 01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 24: three and they go Travis Punter. 1828 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:13,919 Speaker 8: How do you feel about maybe. 1829 01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 24: In the second round getting a guy like Jackson Dart 1830 01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:19,880 Speaker 24: or Jaln Milroe. I don't know if he'll fall to 1831 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:22,599 Speaker 24: the first round Jalon Milroe. But and then also along 1832 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:27,559 Speaker 24: with that signing a veteran quarterback like a Carson Wentz 1833 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:30,560 Speaker 24: or a Justin Field. I kind of the more I 1834 01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,439 Speaker 24: think about it that kind of seems like a more 1835 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:35,280 Speaker 24: realistic option at this point now. 1836 01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:37,479 Speaker 2: Joe, good question, and I think jac are both and 1837 01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,200 Speaker 2: I are aligned on this throw as many darts at 1838 01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,519 Speaker 2: the quarterback position as again, and you on our pregame 1839 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:44,559 Speaker 2: show talked about the Falcons right the way they signed 1840 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:46,960 Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and they drafted Michael Pennock. So you could 1841 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:49,160 Speaker 2: do both of those things. And I think drafting a 1842 01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,559 Speaker 2: quarterback on Day two then expecting to start right away, 1843 01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:53,840 Speaker 2: that's sometimes asking a lot those guys the reason their 1844 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,040 Speaker 2: number second round picks or third round picks because they're 1845 01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,400 Speaker 2: not ready to step in right away. So I think 1846 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:00,920 Speaker 2: doing both those things in a even if you don't 1847 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:02,960 Speaker 2: pick a quarterback at third overall or trade up for one, 1848 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,720 Speaker 2: whoever you want to approach this, I do think it's 1849 01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,719 Speaker 2: important the draft a quarterback to get a young quarterback 1850 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 2: in the pipeline. I think Jackson Dort will certainly be 1851 01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,559 Speaker 2: available on Day two. He might even be around three pick, 1852 01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,280 Speaker 2: not around two pick. Jalen Milroe is interesting. I mentioned 1853 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,240 Speaker 2: our draft season podcast Tony Pauline, who's been working on 1854 01:25:19,280 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 2: the draft for twenty years, but thirty years he's been 1855 01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:24,240 Speaker 2: doing this, you know, longer than anyone. He believes Milrowe 1856 01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:26,519 Speaker 2: will get into the first round. He's the Alabama quarterback, 1857 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:28,560 Speaker 2: perhaps even a top twenty picks. He might have to 1858 01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,759 Speaker 2: trade up for him. Very raw, but probably more physically 1859 01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:34,240 Speaker 2: gifted than any other quarterback in this class in terms 1860 01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,599 Speaker 2: of speed and arm strength and stuff like that. Great athlete, 1861 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 2: powerful arm. He's just sometimes you know, the balls going, 1862 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:41,880 Speaker 2: you know, these things that he has to polish up 1863 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:47,960 Speaker 2: as a passer. So yes, look at this point, it's 1864 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,400 Speaker 2: all hands on deck. Right, It's the most important position 1865 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:52,639 Speaker 2: in football. You know, I went through who the playoff 1866 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,760 Speaker 2: team is going to be this year. Guys, quarterbacks, just 1867 01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,519 Speaker 2: look at him, everyone Chiefs, Mahomes, Bill's Josh Allen. The 1868 01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,080 Speaker 2: Bengals just missed it, right, they won, well, they could 1869 01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,240 Speaker 2: still make it. But the big the Broncos are twenty 1870 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:04,559 Speaker 2: one nothing. 1871 01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,839 Speaker 3: That's what their defense given him thirty points a game. 1872 01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:11,080 Speaker 2: You know, Josh Burrow, Joe Burrow. Uh, you talk about 1873 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:13,720 Speaker 2: the Steelers. Russell Wilson is not what he used to be, 1874 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,799 Speaker 2: but he's still a Super Bowl champion quarterback. 1875 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:16,000 Speaker 19: Right. 1876 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,240 Speaker 2: You go to the San Diego Los Angeles Chargers with 1877 01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,800 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert. You go to the NFC, you have Jalen Hurts, 1878 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,679 Speaker 2: who's you know, Doug gone deep in the playoffs. Second 1879 01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,679 Speaker 2: round pick Jordan Love has been a really good player. 1880 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,280 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield's played great. He was a top five pick, 1881 01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:36,400 Speaker 2: by the way, Sam Donold top five pick. Uh. Just 1882 01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 2: go down the list and you know these guys have 1883 01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,360 Speaker 2: just all been Jaydon Daniels had a great rookie year. 1884 01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:42,240 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is going to be in the postseason. He's 1885 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 2: a really good player. Just go down the list, and 1886 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,000 Speaker 2: and how many of those guys are top ten guys? 1887 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:47,200 Speaker 14: Right? 1888 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:48,840 Speaker 2: You go through? More than half of them are top 1889 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:50,599 Speaker 2: ten picks. So get you think. 1890 01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:52,120 Speaker 3: Put that in my mind last week I was like, 1891 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,000 Speaker 3: really they all I didn't realize that they are. I 1892 01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 3: guess because I'm undrafted and I pay attention to the 1893 01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,120 Speaker 3: lower enough draft pick guys. 1894 01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:00,400 Speaker 2: And this is this is the point I'm not trying 1895 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,200 Speaker 2: to make the fans when they say, oh, but look, 1896 01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 2: Dak Prescott was a fourth round pick. Bo Nicks outside 1897 01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,960 Speaker 2: the top ten, he's doing really well. Can you find 1898 01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,880 Speaker 2: the guy outside of the top five top ten? Sure 1899 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:17,280 Speaker 2: you can. It's a very very hit or misprocess. There 1900 01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,479 Speaker 2: with a lot more misses than hits. You're looking at 1901 01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:24,559 Speaker 2: a well under twenty percent type of hit rate. I'll 1902 01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,720 Speaker 2: bring up a thing real quick just to kind of 1903 01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:29,519 Speaker 2: give fans an example, but you know that's kind of 1904 01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:32,560 Speaker 2: what you're looking at here, JC. So you do have 1905 01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,080 Speaker 2: to figure that quarterback position out one way or another, 1906 01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 2: whether it's a bridge guy or rookie guy or both. 1907 01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 2: Throw as many resources at the thing as you can, 1908 01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,160 Speaker 2: because until you get that right, a lot of the 1909 01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,400 Speaker 2: other stuff. Even if you get the other stuff right, 1910 01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,680 Speaker 2: it's not gonna matter as much if you don't get 1911 01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:46,160 Speaker 2: the quarterback. 1912 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,280 Speaker 3: I think I think a mistake would be bringing in 1913 01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 3: a young quarterback of rookie possibly that third pick overall, 1914 01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,960 Speaker 3: without bringing a veteran presence, you know, like not to 1915 01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,360 Speaker 3: say Tommy can't do it. If Tommy used to that 1916 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 3: the Giants keep or if they've resigned Drew Locke, like, 1917 01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,360 Speaker 3: they need a veteran quarterback that has won in this NFL, 1918 01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,920 Speaker 3: that have won in the league. And I don't mind 1919 01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,840 Speaker 3: them not winning for a certain time of their career 1920 01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 3: and then winning like Sam Darnold, right, somebody like that 1921 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 3: who can at least they can come and smell. When 1922 01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 3: I first got into the NFL, I was talented, but 1923 01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 3: I was hurt, like I came out. I was hurt 1924 01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 3: my senior year. I came into the league, and then 1925 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:30,919 Speaker 3: I figured out very quickly zone defense is very difficult 1926 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,559 Speaker 3: to play. I found that out very quickly. 1927 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,760 Speaker 2: You're looking at a million things trying to figure out. 1928 01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:40,519 Speaker 3: So like I had to learn through fire, which I've 1929 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:44,720 Speaker 3: talked about on this show. Through basically Drew Brees just 1930 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,320 Speaker 3: killing me and cover too, you know what I mean. Like, 1931 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,040 Speaker 3: but I had to go through that. Luckily I wasn't 1932 01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:54,120 Speaker 3: playing defense and getting you know, Matt Ryan hit me 1933 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,200 Speaker 3: behind my head, you know, every time I in the 1934 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 3: wrong position, you know what I mean, Like, you know, 1935 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:00,960 Speaker 3: I end up starting my life. I think the last 1936 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:02,599 Speaker 3: game of the season, to get my last two games 1937 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 3: of the season that year, my rookie year. But what 1938 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,160 Speaker 3: I'm saying is is if I'd have been thrusted because 1939 01:29:07,200 --> 01:29:09,000 Speaker 3: of the first round draft pick, you know, because I 1940 01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,160 Speaker 3: had the talent to do it, I would have ran 1941 01:29:10,240 --> 01:29:12,760 Speaker 3: faster to combine. If I got thrusted in and I 1942 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:14,120 Speaker 3: would have been out there, I would have been getting 1943 01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 3: baptized in past coverage and. 1944 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:18,280 Speaker 2: I assume you were scout team going up against practice 1945 01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,400 Speaker 2: and that's when he was killing you. Right, I had learned, I. 1946 01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:22,160 Speaker 3: Learned, I learned, I learned, and this is for me. 1947 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:22,880 Speaker 19: You know. 1948 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,880 Speaker 3: I was I felt like I was a smart guy, 1949 01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,799 Speaker 3: like I was fast, I was athletic, all of those tools. 1950 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,759 Speaker 3: But there are just certain like levels of like mental 1951 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 3: capacity that you didn't even need to have in college. 1952 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 3: Then you get to this level and they started talking 1953 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:42,000 Speaker 3: about plays. You're like what. You start hearing the safeties talking, 1954 01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,840 Speaker 3: It's like, what are you talking about? Like I've never 1955 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,720 Speaker 3: heard these things before. And I can even imagine for 1956 01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback coming in Gosh, that brand RPOs their 1957 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:51,479 Speaker 3: whole career. 1958 01:29:51,560 --> 01:29:54,360 Speaker 2: Well, it's the oldest expression, drinking from drinking from a 1959 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,640 Speaker 2: fire hos, right. I mean it's it's impossible, you know. 1960 01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,839 Speaker 3: So I would rather if, even if they draft quarterback 1961 01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:03,960 Speaker 3: whatever Cam Schdore or whoever it is, I would love 1962 01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:06,000 Speaker 3: for him to come into the league and not have 1963 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,640 Speaker 3: the stress of playing right away and winning games for 1964 01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:12,280 Speaker 3: this franchise that hasn't won in a long time. You know, 1965 01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,800 Speaker 3: I don't want that on a rookie quarterback. I would 1966 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:18,559 Speaker 3: rather that from a guy. And I think somebody said Jimmy. 1967 01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:21,240 Speaker 2: Garoppolo not too long ago. Last week, I was like, 1968 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 2: what I thought about. 1969 01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:24,479 Speaker 3: Like, that might not be bad because at least he's 1970 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,920 Speaker 3: he's seen the highsne los, you know, the benchings, he's 1971 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 3: been through the Super Bowl. You know, he's been around 1972 01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,439 Speaker 3: great teams. He's been around not so great. 1973 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,400 Speaker 2: You can only find a bridge quarterback from the guys 1974 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 2: that are available to you, right, There's only so many 1975 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,840 Speaker 2: guys that are available, and there's gonna be a lot 1976 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:38,000 Speaker 2: of It looks like there's gonna be a lot of 1977 01:30:38,040 --> 01:30:40,080 Speaker 2: seats to fill in the quarterback market this offseason. 1978 01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:43,160 Speaker 3: So and and look, I don't I don't think that 1979 01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,360 Speaker 3: people are not saying they don't understand it, but I 1980 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:49,439 Speaker 3: think they're starting to understand more now how important a 1981 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:52,479 Speaker 3: backup quarterback is. Right, I think the last two years 1982 01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,320 Speaker 3: that all of the quarterbacks that went down, I mean 1983 01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:57,080 Speaker 3: the last two years, the Giants played what six sevens 1984 01:30:57,200 --> 01:31:00,559 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in the last two years. That's I'm not supposed 1985 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,120 Speaker 3: to happen for this year, three last year, and most 1986 01:31:03,160 --> 01:31:05,479 Speaker 3: of those was because of injuries. Like it wasn't even like, 1987 01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:08,080 Speaker 3: oh he wasn't playing or he wasn't playing and then 1988 01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,920 Speaker 3: they benched. No, I mean that happened too the Giants. 1989 01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:12,920 Speaker 3: Everything happened with the Giants, but a lot of those 1990 01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:16,760 Speaker 3: things was injuries. So I think another underrated position. I 1991 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:19,000 Speaker 3: think it's probably gonna get pushed at the forefront this 1992 01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,519 Speaker 3: year because of what Atlanta did. And you look at 1993 01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:25,200 Speaker 3: Sam Darno, Baker. Mayfield is developing young quarterbacks and not 1994 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,080 Speaker 3: getting rid of them after two or three years like 1995 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:28,240 Speaker 3: some of these teams did. 1996 01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,360 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna give you Jays and then we'll get 1997 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:32,000 Speaker 2: to break here. I know we'll run a little bit behind. 1998 01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,320 Speaker 2: These are the last fifteen quarterbacks chosen, not including last 1999 01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,680 Speaker 2: year's class, chosen between picks eleven and thirty two in 2000 01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,000 Speaker 2: the first round. So these are the top ten, not 2001 01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,120 Speaker 2: on the top ten, but but first round. So this 2002 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,080 Speaker 2: is even counting the guys picked in rounds two through 2003 01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,280 Speaker 2: five and two through seven. Right, all right, So here's 2004 01:31:47,280 --> 01:31:51,679 Speaker 2: the last fifteen. Can he Pikett, Justin Fields, Mac Jones, 2005 01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:57,160 Speaker 2: Jordan Love, that's a hit, Dwayne Haskins, Lamar Jackson pretty good, 2006 01:31:57,880 --> 01:31:59,920 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson was a hit for a few years down 2007 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 2: not so much so good at yes, I don't know 2008 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:04,800 Speaker 2: what I still know really what happened to him as 2009 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,599 Speaker 2: a player. Obviously, all the off the field stuff, we're 2010 01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:12,000 Speaker 2: not gonna touch that. Paxton Lynch, Johnny Manzel, Teddy Bridgewater, 2011 01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:19,040 Speaker 2: ej Manuel Brandon, Whedon, Christian Ponder, Tim Tebow, and your 2012 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:23,320 Speaker 2: man Josh Freeman. So that's fifteen guys. If you count 2013 01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:28,080 Speaker 2: Sewan Watson as a hit. If you count DeShawn Watson 2014 01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,000 Speaker 2: as a hit, that's three out of fifteen. So you're 2015 01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 2: looking at a twenty percent hit rate just non top 2016 01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,120 Speaker 2: ten first round quarterbacks. You start dipping into the second round, 2017 01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,200 Speaker 2: the third round, and fourth round and fifth round, that 2018 01:32:40,400 --> 01:32:43,000 Speaker 2: percentage goes down, down, down, down, down down down. The 2019 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:44,559 Speaker 2: further and deeper you go into the draft. 2020 01:32:45,640 --> 01:32:47,639 Speaker 3: Those statistics that I don't know nothing about. 2021 01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:49,720 Speaker 19: This is. 2022 01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,439 Speaker 2: Just history. I'm not giving you advance stats. I'm just 2023 01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:55,320 Speaker 2: telling you what's happened. I gave you the names. You 2024 01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,880 Speaker 2: can come to whatever conclusion you want. I mean, based 2025 01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:58,799 Speaker 2: on those names. 2026 01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:01,960 Speaker 3: Of those guys are not on the same team, or 2027 01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,040 Speaker 3: ninety those guys not on the same team. Two third 2028 01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:05,439 Speaker 3: of those guys not in the league, I mean. 2029 01:33:07,439 --> 01:33:07,760 Speaker 11: The league. 2030 01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:09,760 Speaker 2: One of those two of those players are on the 2031 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:14,920 Speaker 2: same team. And Lamar Jackson that's it. 2032 01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 3: That's it. 2033 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,720 Speaker 2: Only two guys. Jordan Love is obviously only five years, 2034 01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,200 Speaker 2: six years in the league at this point, six years. 2035 01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 2: I think he just signed that extension, right, So, Yeah, 2036 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,599 Speaker 2: it's important to find a good quarterback, and you usually 2037 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:30,080 Speaker 2: find them in the top ten, that's generally how it 2038 01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,200 Speaker 2: tends to work. But you can't find one later. Yeah, 2039 01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,160 Speaker 2: and again you're in the Giants here and you got 2040 01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:35,559 Speaker 2: a spot where you got no one on the contract 2041 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 2: next year. Again, you can bring Timmey the Beato easily 2042 01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,400 Speaker 2: back if you want. But throw darts right and yeah, hey, 2043 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:42,720 Speaker 2: you can draft two guys. You are a draft guy 2044 01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,320 Speaker 2: in the second round and the fifth round next year, 2045 01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:46,920 Speaker 2: do that too. Whatever it takes to try to find 2046 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,240 Speaker 2: your guy moving forward. That's what you got. 2047 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,559 Speaker 3: And when we talk about what stop gap and what's 2048 01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,519 Speaker 3: the other term that we'd using bridge quarterback, we're not 2049 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,840 Speaker 3: talking about a quarterback that's not that's not a starter, 2050 01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 3: not like a career backup. We're talking about a starting 2051 01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,080 Speaker 3: quarterback that don't have a team on on for twenty 2052 01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:03,559 Speaker 3: twenty five. 2053 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not I think the Carson Wentz train has 2054 01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,479 Speaker 2: left the station. I know the caller board of Carson Wentz, 2055 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,920 Speaker 2: but look, Justin Fields is the guy that's young enough. Obviously, 2056 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,640 Speaker 2: you see how much better the Steelers got when they 2057 01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,360 Speaker 2: went to Russell Wilson. I don't think that when they 2058 01:34:16,360 --> 01:34:18,200 Speaker 2: were four when they did that, I don't. But but 2059 01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,559 Speaker 2: look at how many points they scored since they made 2060 01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:23,120 Speaker 2: that change. The offense has gone a lot better. So 2061 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,240 Speaker 2: but again, he's the guy that's young enough, and you 2062 01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,240 Speaker 2: feel like, well, maybe you can, you know, find the 2063 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,719 Speaker 2: next version of Baker Mayfield, the next version of Sam Donald, 2064 01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:31,439 Speaker 2: the next version of Geno Smith, where you can catch 2065 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 2: these guys later in their career after they figure things 2066 01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:37,280 Speaker 2: out again. Who knows if he's gonna be available. He 2067 01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:38,720 Speaker 2: might be on the steels again next year. He's another 2068 01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:42,439 Speaker 2: team's property, so again, who knows. The Giants will have 2069 01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,120 Speaker 2: to figure all that. All right, let's take a quick 2070 01:34:44,160 --> 01:34:46,840 Speaker 2: time out. 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Giants fall to the 2090 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,920 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles twenty to thirteen and their year three and fourteen. 2091 01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:43,840 Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones at eight eight eight 2092 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:45,759 Speaker 2: eight h eight one zero one nine. We got Lawrence, 2093 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,519 Speaker 2: Cliff and Harvey. I will get to all three of 2094 01:35:47,600 --> 01:35:50,040 Speaker 2: u before we say goodbye. I promise, So hang with us. 2095 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,840 Speaker 2: Let's lead off with Lawrence down in Oklahoma City. Lawrence, 2096 01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:53,200 Speaker 2: what's up. 2097 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:55,360 Speaker 8: Hey, guys, thanks for chaking the call. 2098 01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 2: Yep uh. 2099 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,960 Speaker 8: For the Giants, I didn't expect a good year, but 2100 01:35:59,320 --> 01:36:03,599 Speaker 8: the coaching was very underwhelming. The offense was a vanilla 2101 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:07,000 Speaker 8: and the team wasn't didn't look like they had any 2102 01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,240 Speaker 8: passion when they played. And for that purpose, I have 2103 01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:11,599 Speaker 8: no interest in having day Ball come back because next 2104 01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:13,720 Speaker 8: year we're not going to have any any easier of 2105 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,960 Speaker 8: a schedule. We're probably gonna go like one in three 2106 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,240 Speaker 8: and then what We're gonna fire him and then the 2107 01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,439 Speaker 8: rookie quarterbacks are going to be stuck with a transitioning coach. 2108 01:36:21,479 --> 01:36:21,719 Speaker 2: Again. 2109 01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 8: There there's no I don't see any reason to bring 2110 01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:24,680 Speaker 8: him back. 2111 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:27,519 Speaker 2: I Lawrence appreciate the call, and look, we talked about 2112 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:32,400 Speaker 2: this before. If Brian dables back that and jac and 2113 01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:34,639 Speaker 2: I are both big fans of his and the great guy, 2114 01:36:34,680 --> 01:36:39,120 Speaker 2: smart football guy, good coach. You should not be in 2115 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:40,800 Speaker 2: a situation where after four games you're looking to let 2116 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:42,800 Speaker 2: oh your coach. Right, if you're going to bring him back, 2117 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,680 Speaker 2: you need to have conviction about it, and that's not 2118 01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,800 Speaker 2: John Mara is never going to fire a coach after 2119 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,400 Speaker 2: four games. That's not how he operates. That's not what 2120 01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,800 Speaker 2: he does and Steve Tisch doesn't operate that way either, 2121 01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:54,439 Speaker 2: the two decision makers here for the Giants organization. So 2122 01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,639 Speaker 2: I would not worry about that part of it. And again, 2123 01:36:57,680 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 2: we don't know what the rookie quarterback situations look like 2124 01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,080 Speaker 2: next year. Picking third, you might not get one like 2125 01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:03,800 Speaker 2: we've talked about in the top five, and you pick 2126 01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,439 Speaker 2: one on day two, that guy might even be playing 2127 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,320 Speaker 2: yet when you get to you know, mid season, depending 2128 01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:10,800 Speaker 2: on what you your bridge guy is. So a lot 2129 01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:12,360 Speaker 2: up in the air when you're making that decision. And 2130 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:13,600 Speaker 2: we'll know what the Giants decide they do in the 2131 01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:14,160 Speaker 2: next few days. 2132 01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm just gonna wait to figure out 2133 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,200 Speaker 3: what they're gonna do, you know, because look, it's all 2134 01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,639 Speaker 3: on John right. John Mara makes those decisions, right, He's 2135 01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:25,280 Speaker 3: the guy that makes those and Tish right, but John's 2136 01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,360 Speaker 3: more hands on, right, He's. 2137 01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:29,040 Speaker 2: More of the hands one day. Yes, but they're they're 2138 01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,200 Speaker 2: they both on half the team and they make joint decisions. 2139 01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. So for me, it's like, let's see what what 2140 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:35,880 Speaker 3: they're gonna do, you know, because they got to make 2141 01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:39,400 Speaker 3: their decision basically, because that stuff happens now right today, 2142 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,400 Speaker 3: by tomorrow, so we'll figure out and then you know, 2143 01:37:42,479 --> 01:37:44,400 Speaker 3: for me, I could I could talk, you know more 2144 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:47,000 Speaker 3: about it. But look, it's it's hard to be in 2145 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:47,639 Speaker 3: the NFL. 2146 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:47,960 Speaker 17: Man. 2147 01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 3: Like it's hard to play in the NFL. It's even 2148 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,439 Speaker 3: harder to coach. You got to spend so much time 2149 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:57,720 Speaker 3: in this building, you know. So for me, kudos to 2150 01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:00,360 Speaker 3: day Ball man. It's it's it's hard to do with 2151 01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:03,439 Speaker 3: what he's done, uh, you know, being being the head 2152 01:38:03,479 --> 01:38:06,360 Speaker 3: coach with the Giants the last three years, you know, 2153 01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:08,439 Speaker 3: And I do hope he comes back, you know, I 2154 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:11,559 Speaker 3: do hope that the Giants can uh, you know, get 2155 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:16,360 Speaker 3: some type of continuity. You know, it hasn't been. I 2156 01:38:16,439 --> 01:38:19,080 Speaker 3: mean I played here in two thousand and fifteen, sixteen 2157 01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:22,960 Speaker 3: and seventeen and since then, I mean McAdoo, I was there, 2158 01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:25,639 Speaker 3: Coughland in my last my first year, I was Coughlin's 2159 01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,320 Speaker 3: last year I was with McAdoo. Then right after that 2160 01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,080 Speaker 3: it was what uh, Shermer. 2161 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,000 Speaker 2: Well, he also had the Steve Spagnola interim head coach 2162 01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:32,400 Speaker 2: in there too. 2163 01:38:32,479 --> 01:38:36,080 Speaker 3: Oh you throw that in there yet, right, Shermer, Judge 2164 01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:40,680 Speaker 3: Dave Balls. A lot of coaches, those Spags And that's 2165 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:44,800 Speaker 3: six coaches since twenty fifteen. Like you gotta have some 2166 01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,240 Speaker 3: some type of continuity, Like you have to have something. 2167 01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,120 Speaker 2: Otherwise you're kind of resetting your program every two or 2168 01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,200 Speaker 2: three years. And then again, we understand based on the results, 2169 01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,360 Speaker 2: whatever decision they make. I think it's understandable. We get 2170 01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:59,400 Speaker 2: what's going on here. But you're right, it's very hard 2171 01:38:59,439 --> 01:39:00,519 Speaker 2: when you're kind of changing. 2172 01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,240 Speaker 3: And John marya John May I'm talking about me and 2173 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,720 Speaker 3: Paul had a conversation about him before the first Seagus game, 2174 01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:07,439 Speaker 3: and I was like, he's I see him over there. 2175 01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:08,920 Speaker 3: He's like kind of staring off in his space a 2176 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:11,080 Speaker 3: little bit, and he got into this whole thing about 2177 01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:12,880 Speaker 3: how much he can oh and I was like, I 2178 01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,080 Speaker 3: understand that. I get it. But that's why he's trying 2179 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,360 Speaker 3: to figure out who's the right guys to make these decisions. 2180 01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,479 Speaker 3: That's why he's bringing in, you know, all these guys 2181 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,479 Speaker 3: over the last you know, decade, because he's trying to 2182 01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:25,000 Speaker 3: do the right thing for his organization. 2183 01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:25,720 Speaker 4: You know. 2184 01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:29,479 Speaker 3: So I I, you know, pray for these guys, you know. 2185 01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 3: I pray for my I pray for his team, pray 2186 01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,160 Speaker 3: for you, I pray for everybody. But like pray for 2187 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,519 Speaker 3: his decision making, like cause it's it's a lot going on. 2188 01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:38,439 Speaker 3: I know, it's I don't want to beat him to 2189 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:41,439 Speaker 3: make that decision. Uh, you know, who's gonna lead this 2190 01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:44,439 Speaker 3: team for the next however long you know, hopefully it's 2191 01:39:44,479 --> 01:39:45,320 Speaker 3: longer than two years. 2192 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,400 Speaker 2: And the bottom line is that you make whatever decision, 2193 01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,760 Speaker 2: what whatever he thinks is best of the long term 2194 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:51,920 Speaker 2: the organization. That's the decision that you make. And you know, 2195 01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,960 Speaker 2: you don't worry about what people think about it. You 2196 01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:56,200 Speaker 2: just make whatever you think the best decision is. And 2197 01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,280 Speaker 2: that's what uh mister marraor mister Tishu will do moving forward. Here, 2198 01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:01,880 Speaker 2: Let's go on to Tyrone Tracy. He spoke to the 2199 01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,040 Speaker 2: media after the game downstairs. Let's let's listen into the 2200 01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:06,680 Speaker 2: Giants rookie after a very successful rookie season. We're it 2201 01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:10,080 Speaker 2: over one thousand scrimmage yards right roll. The rookie season's over. 2202 01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:11,719 Speaker 2: We talked about the records. 2203 01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:13,519 Speaker 3: You know, obviously you in the league, big part of 2204 01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:14,240 Speaker 3: the future. 2205 01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,880 Speaker 18: With a thousand yards plus some pieces from scrimmage. As 2206 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,559 Speaker 18: you take this into this into the offseason, what kind 2207 01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,360 Speaker 18: of things are you gonna remember, what kind of things 2208 01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:22,040 Speaker 18: you're gonna want. 2209 01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:22,200 Speaker 2: To build on. 2210 01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,479 Speaker 21: I mean, I'm always gonna remember on the good times 2211 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:27,560 Speaker 21: obviously the bad times, those are the times that like 2212 01:40:27,640 --> 01:40:30,479 Speaker 21: you can really build you know, build character with Rugy Pleisman. 2213 01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:31,519 Speaker 17: Also you know as the team. 2214 01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:33,639 Speaker 12: You know, the locker room moments. 2215 01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 21: You know, I feel like other things that you're never 2216 01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,200 Speaker 21: going to give back, all the labs, all the good 2217 01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,719 Speaker 21: times that you guys have, and then I think. 2218 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,240 Speaker 12: I want to work on is really just bettering myself, 2219 01:40:42,280 --> 01:40:44,000 Speaker 12: you know, make sure that when I do come back, 2220 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,320 Speaker 12: I can really just pick up where I left off. 2221 01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:48,160 Speaker 21: You know, I'm not gonna you know, taking the steps 2222 01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,240 Speaker 21: back or kind of you know, some people have to 2223 01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:50,960 Speaker 21: knock the rest off. 2224 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,160 Speaker 12: I'm just want to hit the ground running and really 2225 01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,280 Speaker 12: just take off, you know wherever I left left at 2226 01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:58,840 Speaker 12: left it at. But personally, I think I did it 2227 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:00,000 Speaker 12: well for my first teams. 2228 01:41:00,240 --> 01:41:02,720 Speaker 21: But I think my next season I'm coming back, I'm 2229 01:41:02,720 --> 01:41:04,559 Speaker 21: gonna try to know it was a double lid and. 2230 01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:06,599 Speaker 23: Get better. 2231 01:41:07,360 --> 01:41:09,240 Speaker 18: We know that You've always seen a lot of confidence 2232 01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:12,320 Speaker 18: since you walked onto campus year with the Giants, not 2233 01:41:12,520 --> 01:41:14,320 Speaker 18: what you had to prove to yourself, because I knew 2234 01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,200 Speaker 18: you knew what did you have to prove to other 2235 01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:17,360 Speaker 18: people as being. 2236 01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:18,320 Speaker 3: A running back in this week? 2237 01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:19,240 Speaker 19: Do you think you did there? 2238 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:23,920 Speaker 21: Y'all think you always gotta prove things, especially a receiver, 2239 01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:25,320 Speaker 21: show on them back. 2240 01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:27,840 Speaker 12: A lot of people didn't didn't know, you know, who 2241 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 12: I was or what I could do, so I really had. 2242 01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,640 Speaker 21: To really just show them, you know who I was 2243 01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:35,760 Speaker 21: in football field, the type of energy and passion I 2244 01:41:35,800 --> 01:41:36,120 Speaker 21: played with. 2245 01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:37,800 Speaker 3: And I think I did that. 2246 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,519 Speaker 12: You know, I think I did that. I really didn't 2247 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:40,840 Speaker 12: wanted to earn respect and then that was the main 2248 01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:41,320 Speaker 12: day for me. 2249 01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:44,639 Speaker 21: I wanted to earn respect from obviously my peers, my teammates, 2250 01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,360 Speaker 21: and my coaches that and also others around the league. 2251 01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:48,120 Speaker 12: Again, I think I did that as well. 2252 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:50,920 Speaker 18: What surprised you about your rookie season in the league 2253 01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:53,479 Speaker 18: that you didn't expect that you didn't know what's gonna 2254 01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,360 Speaker 18: be as part of the professional team. 2255 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:02,920 Speaker 12: I mean, I wouldn't say I it would like surprised me. 2256 01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,519 Speaker 12: I was really like prepared for a lot of things. 2257 01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:08,720 Speaker 21: I think the one thing that kind of spared me, 2258 01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:10,840 Speaker 21: just like the art O line and like how we 2259 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:13,200 Speaker 21: had to like mixing match to put people different places. 2260 01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:14,720 Speaker 2: But that was really it. 2261 01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:16,719 Speaker 12: You know, I feel like, h I handed everything pretty 2262 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:20,160 Speaker 12: well when things was thrown at me. Again, I handled 2263 01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:21,559 Speaker 12: it well. I got thrown in the fire a little 2264 01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,839 Speaker 12: bit towards at the end of the game season when motor. 2265 01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:24,320 Speaker 3: Got coming down. 2266 01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,040 Speaker 12: I went in there, you know, prepared, uh like a 2267 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,080 Speaker 12: starter and uh again handle my business. And yeah, the 2268 01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:30,960 Speaker 12: season went off there. 2269 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,920 Speaker 18: Okay, Finally, what'd you learn about yourself as a person 2270 01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:36,280 Speaker 18: and as a player after going through this experience? 2271 01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,000 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean I think I'm I'm I'm resilient. I mean, 2272 01:42:40,120 --> 01:42:43,519 Speaker 12: I think that I can really do this running back. 2273 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,800 Speaker 2: Thing, you know, uh, you know, excel, I think I 2274 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:46,200 Speaker 2: could do that. 2275 01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:47,560 Speaker 4: I think I can be pretty good at it. 2276 01:42:48,000 --> 01:42:50,439 Speaker 21: Again, I have some things to clean up the old line, 2277 01:42:50,439 --> 01:42:52,880 Speaker 21: did they Again They're we're playing mixed match, you know, 2278 01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:53,720 Speaker 21: at at the old one spot. 2279 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:54,840 Speaker 12: So I gotta give all the credit to. 2280 01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:57,879 Speaker 21: Them when it comes to you know, from my records 2281 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:00,000 Speaker 21: and things that I've done, you know, on football field, 2282 01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:02,200 Speaker 21: I have to give credit to olon. But again, I 2283 01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:05,120 Speaker 21: think I can take another step forward the next season 2284 01:43:05,280 --> 01:43:06,920 Speaker 21: from where I'm at now, and I'm just excited for 2285 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:07,439 Speaker 21: what the time. 2286 01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,000 Speaker 2: Thanks freek time, congratulations on me. With your season. Thank 2287 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:12,120 Speaker 2: you appreciate it. That's Paula Tina. What time on Tracy, 2288 01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:13,640 Speaker 2: I think all of us feel pretty good about him 2289 01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:15,720 Speaker 2: being a huge part of the rushing attack. Next year, 2290 01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,880 Speaker 2: Devin Secretary's contract probably dictates he'll be back as the 2291 01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:21,040 Speaker 2: one B type of guy. I don't know. Maybe you 2292 01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:23,320 Speaker 2: bring in kind of an explosive scat back type if 2293 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:24,720 Speaker 2: you want. But if they just come back with this 2294 01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,920 Speaker 2: running back room, I think gianat fan should be fine 2295 01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:28,719 Speaker 2: with it. It's a nice little group that they should 2296 01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:29,519 Speaker 2: feel pretty good about. 2297 01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:31,600 Speaker 3: JC. Yeah, I feel good about both of them, you know. 2298 01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:33,920 Speaker 3: I think Devins Sancretary whenever he had the you know, 2299 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:36,080 Speaker 3: the nod at the beginning of the season, he looked good, 2300 01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,360 Speaker 3: you know, and then Tracy came in and showed a 2301 01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,880 Speaker 3: little bit different element. And I think the combination of 2302 01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:42,760 Speaker 3: them too. I think, you you know, if you don't 2303 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:46,759 Speaker 3: have you know that guy, the Derek Henry's the Barkleys 2304 01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,920 Speaker 3: of the world, you need a good stable of really 2305 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:52,080 Speaker 3: good running backs, and I think that's what the Giants 2306 01:43:52,120 --> 01:43:52,559 Speaker 3: have right now. 2307 01:43:52,960 --> 01:43:55,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go back to the phones. Cliff is in Manhatan, Cliff, 2308 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:57,439 Speaker 2: what's going on? Then? Harvey will wrap us up. Cliff, 2309 01:43:57,439 --> 01:43:57,920 Speaker 2: what's happening? 2310 01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:02,320 Speaker 25: Hey guys, you guys really had it nailed when you 2311 01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:06,519 Speaker 25: got to the point like we need players in every room. 2312 01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,280 Speaker 25: And the only reason we're talking about quarterbacks the way 2313 01:44:10,360 --> 01:44:13,200 Speaker 25: I see it, is because one of the rooms is quarterback. 2314 01:44:13,880 --> 01:44:18,120 Speaker 25: And the bottom line is the roster. I was thinking 2315 01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:20,479 Speaker 25: going into this game, Oh, we get to play with 2316 01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:23,640 Speaker 25: the against the Eagles second line players. And I thought, oh, 2317 01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:26,200 Speaker 25: wait a minute. Don't the Eagles have one of the 2318 01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:28,760 Speaker 25: best rated rosters in the league. And when you have 2319 01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,080 Speaker 25: one of those rosters, doesn't it include more than the starters? 2320 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,439 Speaker 25: And sure enough, you know it started off not looking 2321 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,439 Speaker 25: too good. But and I think you might be able 2322 01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,880 Speaker 25: to grab some stats on this, John. I don't want 2323 01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:42,120 Speaker 25: to put you on the spot, but I know you're 2324 01:44:42,200 --> 01:44:45,840 Speaker 25: very handy with this stuff. When they started off with 2325 01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:48,479 Speaker 25: that offense throwing the ball at Godard and it looked 2326 01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:50,559 Speaker 25: like they could do whatever they wanted and we couldn't 2327 01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:54,400 Speaker 25: do whatever we wanted. Wasn't there a moment during the 2328 01:44:54,479 --> 01:44:57,519 Speaker 25: first half where I felt a change. I felt the 2329 01:44:57,680 --> 01:45:02,959 Speaker 25: change either the defense rose up or they made some changes. 2330 01:45:03,160 --> 01:45:04,800 Speaker 25: And who was on the field. 2331 01:45:04,960 --> 01:45:06,800 Speaker 2: Click, I wonder this too, and I want to ask 2332 01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:11,120 Speaker 2: jac about this and appreciate the call. Good question. I 2333 01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:14,040 Speaker 2: wonder if they got through all the plays that Tane 2334 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:18,000 Speaker 2: Mrickey really practiced a lot during the week, and they 2335 01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:19,840 Speaker 2: kind of got through the plays he was comfortable with. 2336 01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:21,519 Speaker 2: And I think Dallas godd it wasn't on the field 2337 01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:23,320 Speaker 2: anymore either, because he's a guy that was coming back 2338 01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:24,760 Speaker 2: from injury. They wanted to get him someone they get 2339 01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,880 Speaker 2: him out of there. I wonder if that had something 2340 01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:28,880 Speaker 2: to do with the Eagles offense slowing down to because 2341 01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,479 Speaker 2: you know, you can script the beginning plays, you work 2342 01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,080 Speaker 2: on certain plays with your inexperienced quarterback and I'm really 2343 01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:37,439 Speaker 2: comfortable in those plays. You eventually run out of those plays, 2344 01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,280 Speaker 2: as I wonder if that was part of it too. 2345 01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,840 Speaker 3: Possibly. I mean from what I seen last week from 2346 01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,880 Speaker 3: him on film against Dallas last week on he threw 2347 01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:47,720 Speaker 3: four passes, but yeah, I mean he was like, what 2348 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:48,439 Speaker 3: three or four? 2349 01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:49,679 Speaker 2: Two bad? 2350 01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,040 Speaker 3: Not bad? And then today, I mean his boy, like 2351 01:45:52,160 --> 01:45:55,439 Speaker 3: his pass wasn't that accurate, a little bit behind? Does 2352 01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,600 Speaker 3: throw a nice ball. You know, maybe they were just 2353 01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,479 Speaker 3: seeing what they had in him, you know, they they 2354 01:46:00,640 --> 01:46:02,760 Speaker 3: like you said, they probably put a script together and 2355 01:46:03,080 --> 01:46:04,639 Speaker 3: they didn't come out running the ball like I thought 2356 01:46:04,680 --> 01:46:09,760 Speaker 3: they were gonna do, you know. And and even you 2357 01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,040 Speaker 3: know with Jalen Hurts, and I think he's a very 2358 01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:15,360 Speaker 3: efficient passer, they don't throw the ball a lot. You 2359 01:46:15,400 --> 01:46:19,320 Speaker 3: know that the whole mindset behind Philadelphia is run, run, 2360 01:46:19,439 --> 01:46:22,120 Speaker 3: run control. And then also you know, get some passes 2361 01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:25,400 Speaker 3: through the air with your very talented wide receivers that 2362 01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:27,720 Speaker 3: you have. But I think they wanted to find out 2363 01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:29,840 Speaker 3: what they had at quarterback. But for me, it wasn't 2364 01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:32,040 Speaker 3: about the Eagles today. You know, it's about the Giants, 2365 01:46:32,080 --> 01:46:35,679 Speaker 3: you know, finishing the season. You know, Grant standing on something. 2366 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:41,960 Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't like, I mean, man, loose team 2367 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:46,400 Speaker 3: that's restler starters. You can't do that, Like you can't. 2368 01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out a way around at s 2369 01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:50,639 Speaker 3: Milk right now. You can't lose to a team that's 2370 01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:53,439 Speaker 3: rest of their starters. You do what Denver is doing 2371 01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,360 Speaker 3: right now to Kansas City. Kansas City, the best team 2372 01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,960 Speaker 3: in the league, the rest in their starters. They're down 2373 01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,800 Speaker 3: twenty four zero to Denver. You know, and Denver is 2374 01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:02,639 Speaker 3: a playoff team. 2375 01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:04,360 Speaker 2: Now, fanis they are wearing their orange crush uniform. 2376 01:47:05,680 --> 01:47:08,800 Speaker 3: Those are great, beautiful, but like you know, like this, 2377 01:47:09,520 --> 01:47:12,040 Speaker 3: like I think the spread was like nine or something 2378 01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:13,880 Speaker 3: like that, and I was like, there's no way the 2379 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,920 Speaker 3: Chiefs with Andy reedspacto, they're gonna lose even if they're 2380 01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,080 Speaker 3: not playing anybody, right, But this is what you're supposed 2381 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:21,759 Speaker 3: to do to a team that's not playing their starters. 2382 01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,000 Speaker 3: You're supposed to beat them. I don't care how good 2383 01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:25,640 Speaker 3: they are with their starters, you know what I mean. 2384 01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:27,920 Speaker 3: So for me, that's kind of hanging in my head 2385 01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,080 Speaker 3: a little bit in terms of the Giants, you know, 2386 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,759 Speaker 3: and hopefully these guys can take that in their off season, 2387 01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:36,160 Speaker 3: take to their off season training, take it to their 2388 01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,360 Speaker 3: off season, you know, getting their mental back right, getting 2389 01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,560 Speaker 3: their spirit back right, getting their bodies back right. And 2390 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,759 Speaker 3: they had that sour taste in their mouth. Man, because 2391 01:47:44,479 --> 01:47:46,360 Speaker 3: man if I was one of those defenders, man, And 2392 01:47:46,479 --> 01:47:51,519 Speaker 3: how basically we ended up our last drive defensively, how 2393 01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:53,800 Speaker 3: that ended, And it was like, bro, that was how 2394 01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,360 Speaker 3: our season was all year. You know, our offense struggled. Yeah, 2395 01:47:57,479 --> 01:47:59,439 Speaker 3: So what for me? I never cared about my offense, 2396 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:02,280 Speaker 3: you know, like the best, the worst, the offense was 2397 01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,840 Speaker 3: doing the better we had to play on defense, you know, 2398 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,360 Speaker 3: So for me, I'm speaking to the defenders. Hopefully that's 2399 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,960 Speaker 3: an example for y'all from to learn from and hit 2400 01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:12,599 Speaker 3: this offseason, because you know, if you're a New York 2401 01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:15,000 Speaker 3: Football giant, next year, you're gonna have to do better 2402 01:48:15,040 --> 01:48:16,160 Speaker 3: than you did this year, that's for sure. 2403 01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:17,559 Speaker 2: All Right, let's go down to the locker room. Want 2404 01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:19,640 Speaker 2: to hear from Jermaina Luminor. He's kind of been the 2405 01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:22,280 Speaker 2: spokesman to the offensive line group since Andrew Thomas went out. 2406 01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,680 Speaker 2: He's been a real veteran leader I think on this team. 2407 01:48:24,760 --> 01:48:26,600 Speaker 2: Want to hear his thoughts after the game today, on 2408 01:48:26,680 --> 01:48:27,759 Speaker 2: the game and on the season. 2409 01:48:30,560 --> 01:48:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. 2410 01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:37,840 Speaker 16: For us to be what this team deserves, begin we 2411 01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:40,240 Speaker 16: obviously have to bring you some more pieces that can 2412 01:48:40,360 --> 01:48:43,120 Speaker 16: even couples team with the DUTs plays turn into an 2413 01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,599 Speaker 16: atural getitor of the NFC. And you know the season, 2414 01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:48,559 Speaker 16: the other three teams in O Division, you know, the Eagles, 2415 01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:51,840 Speaker 16: Forets some guys in out there playoffs, the Eagles out. 2416 01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:57,840 Speaker 3: The SA they always have guys they added to that, and. 2417 01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:02,519 Speaker 16: H we need to just eat adding young guys simply 2418 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:04,320 Speaker 16: come in here with an all side that you know 2419 01:49:04,360 --> 01:49:06,799 Speaker 16: you don't care take cared for me, just gonna scratch 2420 01:49:06,880 --> 01:49:08,400 Speaker 16: the colt every single yard you get. 2421 01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:10,080 Speaker 2: And you know, be mature about it. 2422 01:49:10,200 --> 01:49:12,600 Speaker 16: You need to think that we need to mature, you 2423 01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:14,080 Speaker 16: guys saying That's why I say. 2424 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:15,320 Speaker 2: It ends maturity. 2425 01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 4: I just think we need help. 2426 01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:19,400 Speaker 3: Obviously, that's why the throws that too. 2427 01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,040 Speaker 16: Uch. We didn't lose the back up school then, I 2428 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:23,680 Speaker 16: I I just it just means too much to me 2429 01:49:23,720 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 16: to go out there. And that's that quite a way 2430 01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,080 Speaker 16: too much to go out down to schools games like that. 2431 01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:28,479 Speaker 3: You know, I put a way too much to me. 2432 01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:32,800 Speaker 16: I'm playing hurt, pretty banged up like I was Offortunties 2433 01:49:32,880 --> 01:49:35,160 Speaker 16: came back before Ash yet, but I come back to him. 2434 01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,720 Speaker 2: I come back to the Wose games and fight for me. 2435 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,080 Speaker 12: It's just Boston for me. 2436 01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:41,920 Speaker 3: It's just I want more. I want more for this team. 2437 01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:43,160 Speaker 3: I went on from the franchis and I. 2438 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:44,599 Speaker 12: Want more for the players to talking well. 2439 01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:46,960 Speaker 4: Teams you mentioned in the position have a establish sports. 2440 01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,800 Speaker 3: They hear my health and it is that does your 2441 01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:50,479 Speaker 3: school port? 2442 01:49:51,760 --> 01:49:52,840 Speaker 13: How makes you get the trust? 2443 01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,240 Speaker 16: That's what I'm ASSISI late, you know, I I can 2444 01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,559 Speaker 16: even have my own opinions on my things and that stuff. 2445 01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,360 Speaker 16: With that care ask what I'm to decide. 2446 01:50:01,560 --> 01:50:04,040 Speaker 2: All I know is we can have another season like this. 2447 01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:06,080 Speaker 3: But if it's just there's unfiftable one. 2448 01:50:06,040 --> 01:50:06,599 Speaker 2: I'm being right. 2449 01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:08,439 Speaker 12: You guys are locked in number three. 2450 01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:09,639 Speaker 6: Pick what would you pick? 2451 01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:10,360 Speaker 4: What that? 2452 01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:11,080 Speaker 5: Would you get? 2453 01:50:11,120 --> 01:50:11,599 Speaker 11: A quarterback? 2454 01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:13,320 Speaker 4: Would you What do you think this team means since 2455 01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:13,760 Speaker 4: your year? 2456 01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? Eventually just thinking most of the teams in front. 2457 01:50:16,160 --> 01:50:17,880 Speaker 12: Of the Tennessee you win, tightens gas. 2458 01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:18,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean. 2459 01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:21,920 Speaker 16: So I don't I don't know what they're thinking, but 2460 01:50:22,640 --> 01:50:25,160 Speaker 16: you know, I'll go for I'll pick a game changer. Hey, 2461 01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,560 Speaker 16: whatever position it is, I'll pick a game changer. A 2462 01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:31,519 Speaker 16: guy can come in and you know, doesn't think about 2463 01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:35,479 Speaker 16: age or doesn't thing about out then you know where 2464 01:50:35,560 --> 01:50:37,479 Speaker 16: he was drunk and he's just coming into work and 2465 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:41,120 Speaker 16: just coming in to help this team win and never 2466 01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:43,200 Speaker 16: go throwing thirteen a game. Cause I'm sure that's what 2467 01:50:43,240 --> 01:50:45,600 Speaker 16: I'm thinking next year. But I never wanna experiences that. 2468 01:50:45,680 --> 01:50:48,560 Speaker 16: I never wanna be leaving the locker room just wondering. 2469 01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:50,280 Speaker 11: What if you know, what if these stands? 2470 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:51,200 Speaker 3: What if that? What if that? 2471 01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:52,840 Speaker 16: Like, I never wanna remember these that room in or 2472 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:54,880 Speaker 16: me and i'm'a work this office to make sure I've 2473 01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:55,960 Speaker 16: been this stand and I'm. 2474 01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,479 Speaker 3: Hope as a locker room and thinks the same way. 2475 01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:02,720 Speaker 2: Appreciate you, all right, that's your main Illumino after the game, 2476 01:51:02,760 --> 01:51:05,360 Speaker 2: and I feel like he was channeling some Jonathan can 2477 01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:07,160 Speaker 2: see us there with the way he answered those questions. 2478 01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:08,599 Speaker 3: You tell me not in my head? 2479 01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,439 Speaker 2: No I didn't. I wasn't even looking at you. I 2480 01:51:10,520 --> 01:51:12,240 Speaker 2: was looking at my computer screen. I could just sense 2481 01:51:12,320 --> 01:51:15,120 Speaker 2: that was like you speaking in his uh slightly British accent. 2482 01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,960 Speaker 3: I mean, you gotta look internally. You gotta look at yourself. 2483 01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:19,320 Speaker 3: You'all look at the man in the mirror. Man, you 2484 01:51:19,400 --> 01:51:21,559 Speaker 3: gotta say, am I doing everything I can to help 2485 01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,680 Speaker 3: this team? Am I doing everything I can to make 2486 01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,400 Speaker 3: my case that I'm belonging the league and I need 2487 01:51:27,479 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 3: to be playing next year? 2488 01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:28,640 Speaker 5: You know? 2489 01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:30,519 Speaker 3: And you have to do that. You know, you have 2490 01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:32,519 Speaker 3: to do that every single year. You gotta do that 2491 01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,120 Speaker 3: every single day in this league. Man, So many talented people. Man, 2492 01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,800 Speaker 3: they come in every single year because yeah, you bring 2493 01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:41,360 Speaker 3: in whatever how many how many draft picks six to 2494 01:51:41,479 --> 01:51:45,120 Speaker 3: eight draft picks every team per year right. Then you 2495 01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:47,880 Speaker 3: got the free agents. Then you got I'm talking about 2496 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,200 Speaker 3: rookie free agents, you know, rookie free agents. Then you 2497 01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:54,400 Speaker 3: got other free agents better than free agents. Like it's 2498 01:51:54,600 --> 01:51:58,040 Speaker 3: and they're literally trying to replace you, like every single person. 2499 01:51:58,439 --> 01:52:01,240 Speaker 3: They're trying to see if can he play here at 2500 01:52:01,280 --> 01:52:03,280 Speaker 3: a high level? If not, can we bring in somebody 2501 01:52:03,320 --> 01:52:05,200 Speaker 3: to bring him in? Like there's probably what how many 2502 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:07,559 Speaker 3: guys safe on the Giants in terms of rosters wise, 2503 01:52:07,680 --> 01:52:09,920 Speaker 3: Like you look at him, be like, okay, he's safe. 2504 01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:15,800 Speaker 3: He's safe. Maybe two maybe three guys for the Giants team. Yes, 2505 01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:19,560 Speaker 3: I mean new regime. Nothing, everything can change, you know 2506 01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:21,600 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. It's like, so my thing is is 2507 01:52:22,280 --> 01:52:24,400 Speaker 3: is you don't worry about none of the other stuff 2508 01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,360 Speaker 3: you can't control. You worry about yourself. You know, you 2509 01:52:27,479 --> 01:52:29,519 Speaker 3: look eternally. You worry about you know, did I do 2510 01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,680 Speaker 3: everything this year? And if that answers no, then you 2511 01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,479 Speaker 3: figure out how can you answer that next year with 2512 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:38,080 Speaker 3: it being yes? And you do everything you can to 2513 01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:41,360 Speaker 3: prepare yourself. I love JERMAINI Lumina. I love Brian Burns 2514 01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:44,840 Speaker 3: because when they speak, they speak like veterans that's been 2515 01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:47,840 Speaker 3: experienced and they come out on the other side of that, 2516 01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:52,440 Speaker 3: and now they're speaking from like maturity, they're speaking from experience. 2517 01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:57,200 Speaker 3: They're speaking of putting out thoughtful stuff into you know, 2518 01:52:58,000 --> 01:53:01,280 Speaker 3: the air, for their team to hear, for their coaches 2519 01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:04,040 Speaker 3: to hear, to inspire others. Like that's how they're talking 2520 01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,240 Speaker 3: and I love it. And you need more guys like 2521 01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,719 Speaker 3: that on a team. Jermaina Lumino was a great addition 2522 01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:11,280 Speaker 3: this year. You need more guys like that. Brian Burns, 2523 01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:13,600 Speaker 3: great addition this year. You need more guys like that 2524 01:53:13,960 --> 01:53:15,840 Speaker 3: on top of all of the talented rookies that you're 2525 01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:17,000 Speaker 3: bringing in in twenty twenty five. 2526 01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:18,680 Speaker 2: All right, and then the last guy we want to 2527 01:53:18,680 --> 01:53:21,280 Speaker 2: hear from on the postgame show, and then Harvey and Dixials, 2528 01:53:21,320 --> 01:53:23,080 Speaker 2: we will get to you as our final caller of 2529 01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,320 Speaker 2: the year. I want to hear from Darius Slayton because 2530 01:53:25,320 --> 01:53:26,840 Speaker 2: he's one of those guys that's a free agent after 2531 01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:29,120 Speaker 2: the year. JC Jason Pennocks, one of the starters on 2532 01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,160 Speaker 2: defense that's a free agent. Greg Van Roten is a 2533 01:53:31,200 --> 01:53:33,320 Speaker 2: free agent. We'll talk about those guys, but let's first 2534 01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:36,040 Speaker 2: hear from Darius Slayton after the game Reception record. 2535 01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:38,679 Speaker 12: I think for the club that'd be fun. 2536 01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:43,080 Speaker 22: You know, a talented kid deserves it. It works hard, 2537 01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:47,120 Speaker 22: plays hard, It's done a great job here. 2538 01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:50,000 Speaker 2: So every week I feel like, hey, the record a 2539 01:53:50,080 --> 01:53:51,280 Speaker 2: worthy person and. 2540 01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:51,840 Speaker 13: Hen would hear. 2541 01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:54,519 Speaker 17: I know it's early, but how would. 2542 01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:59,720 Speaker 2: You just sum up this season? It was a disappointment, 2543 01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:01,200 Speaker 2: didn't perform. 2544 01:54:02,520 --> 01:54:04,400 Speaker 12: Obviously gonna come away as many as we would have 2545 01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:04,640 Speaker 12: liked to. 2546 01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:09,800 Speaker 6: But you know, as what it is, you since the 2547 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:16,120 Speaker 6: Davil will be back, I have no idea why should should. 2548 01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:16,360 Speaker 17: He be back? 2549 01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:17,479 Speaker 24: Uh? 2550 01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:21,040 Speaker 20: I'll leave those decisions up to that was making. 2551 01:54:22,720 --> 01:54:22,800 Speaker 19: Us. 2552 01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:25,160 Speaker 20: You've been around some teams that obviously you know struggled 2553 01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:28,360 Speaker 20: before this, but this one, obviously you guys said Franchis 2554 01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,680 Speaker 20: Clucker for losses. How do you guys try now? I 2555 01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:32,880 Speaker 20: guess can you put that in perspective at all, just 2556 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:34,920 Speaker 20: being here? Or is it still just one game? 2557 01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:35,360 Speaker 23: I guess? 2558 01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:36,800 Speaker 5: Uh? 2559 01:54:38,800 --> 01:54:41,600 Speaker 20: Can you repeat that question, like what you guys losing 2560 01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:43,440 Speaker 20: as often as you did this year? Is it too 2561 01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,600 Speaker 20: soon to putting in perspective like how it feels compared 2562 01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,000 Speaker 20: to other seasons or is it just this season feels 2563 01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,000 Speaker 20: its own unique weirdness. 2564 01:54:50,040 --> 01:54:52,520 Speaker 12: I guess I mean, I would say every season is 2565 01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:53,280 Speaker 12: its own season. 2566 01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,920 Speaker 22: There's a lot of different reasons why you lose and 2567 01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,640 Speaker 22: win games or any given years. So you know, I'd 2568 01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:02,200 Speaker 22: say each year's his own individual year. But obviously one 2569 01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:03,440 Speaker 22: year has no bearing on the next. 2570 01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:05,960 Speaker 12: So just because this year didn't go the way we 2571 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:07,480 Speaker 12: wanted to, doesn't mean next year can be. 2572 01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:08,520 Speaker 22: My turnaround here. 2573 01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:13,560 Speaker 2: He's close to give you much thought to your future. 2574 01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:17,880 Speaker 22: Not really been trying to close out the year. You know, 2575 01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:20,400 Speaker 22: get through all these games and it's over now, so 2576 01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:22,000 Speaker 22: you know, you'll see what happens. 2577 01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,040 Speaker 17: You've actually given a lot to this franchise. 2578 01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:26,600 Speaker 16: I mean, as you immediate feeling that you still would 2579 01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:29,080 Speaker 16: like to be part of a turnaround here, or you 2580 01:55:29,120 --> 01:55:29,839 Speaker 16: can say about. 2581 01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:33,200 Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I enjoyed my teammates. You know, I've enjoyed 2582 01:55:33,240 --> 01:55:34,040 Speaker 2: my six years here. 2583 01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:38,320 Speaker 22: You know, obviously it's it's a business, so you know, 2584 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,960 Speaker 22: we gotta pash that out and see what that looks like. 2585 01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:43,440 Speaker 22: But you know, as far as you know my time here, 2586 01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:44,360 Speaker 22: I've enjoyed my time here. 2587 01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:48,520 Speaker 2: Jase, so he's a free agent after the year. He's 2588 01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,720 Speaker 2: been here a long time. Greg Van Rode mentioned on 2589 01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:53,880 Speaker 2: the offensive line as a free agent. There are other 2590 01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:55,840 Speaker 2: lesser guys that don't play as much as these guys 2591 01:55:55,880 --> 01:55:57,520 Speaker 2: as well, but these are guys that have prominent roles, 2592 01:55:57,560 --> 01:55:59,720 Speaker 2: starting roles in you know, for for most of the year. 2593 01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:03,240 Speaker 2: And then Jason Pinnock on defense. Are threes guys that 2594 01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,080 Speaker 2: are free agents. Your kind of thoughts on those three 2595 01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,400 Speaker 2: guys and their prospects to return. 2596 01:56:08,080 --> 01:56:11,520 Speaker 3: Uh, just like I said about Brian Burns and Ilumini. 2597 01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:14,600 Speaker 3: I know Greg Van Rowten several times this year has 2598 01:56:14,720 --> 01:56:18,360 Speaker 3: talking talked to the team, you know after these games, 2599 01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:22,760 Speaker 3: you know, so definitely look forward to that leadership. You know, 2600 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:26,280 Speaker 3: those are very capable guys. I like Pinnock's game. I 2601 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,560 Speaker 3: don't know, he was a great blitzer. I don't know 2602 01:56:28,600 --> 01:56:30,280 Speaker 3: they got away from that a little bit about him, 2603 01:56:30,280 --> 01:56:31,920 Speaker 3: you know, being around a line of scrimmage and blitzing. 2604 01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,200 Speaker 3: Who is the other guy, you said, Slayton, Jason Pinnock 2605 01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,520 Speaker 3: and Slaton Slayton. Yeah, And we talked about Slayton last 2606 01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:37,840 Speaker 3: week too. 2607 01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:38,040 Speaker 6: Man. 2608 01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,360 Speaker 3: I think Slayton, you know, he's that guy. And you 2609 01:56:40,440 --> 01:56:43,520 Speaker 3: know he talked about elite neighbors. How good Slayton has 2610 01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:46,480 Speaker 3: been for his progression and development this year and his 2611 01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:48,080 Speaker 3: young rookie year. 2612 01:56:48,320 --> 01:56:50,400 Speaker 2: And by the way, the Safeties had been very uh 2613 01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:52,480 Speaker 2: said very nice things about Pinnock too in terms of 2614 01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:54,000 Speaker 2: his veteran leadership back there too. 2615 01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:56,440 Speaker 3: I just think, you know, you keep adding more key 2616 01:56:56,520 --> 01:57:00,240 Speaker 3: pieces like that. You know what Pinnock was what uh well, 2617 01:57:00,440 --> 01:57:00,920 Speaker 3: free agent? 2618 01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:03,720 Speaker 2: How he was waived by the Jets a couple of 2619 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,880 Speaker 2: years or season, No, it was in August. It was 2620 01:57:05,880 --> 01:57:07,360 Speaker 2: a Daniel Wallers round. 2621 01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:11,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, But like guys like that, I think they're key. 2622 01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:12,760 Speaker 3: You know, they're vital. They come in, they have that 2623 01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:15,520 Speaker 3: veteran leadership. You need guys like that. Man. You don't 2624 01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:19,400 Speaker 3: need one, two, three guys. You literally need half of 2625 01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,320 Speaker 3: your team need to be like that. They need to 2626 01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:25,080 Speaker 3: be young, developing guys or older you older guys, but 2627 01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:28,400 Speaker 3: like guys that've been the league, veterans, that have experience 2628 01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,320 Speaker 3: and that are good character guys that can bring some 2629 01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:33,440 Speaker 3: of these young guys along. You don't even have to 2630 01:57:33,520 --> 01:57:35,360 Speaker 3: bring in all of those guys we're talking about. They 2631 01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,640 Speaker 3: don't have to be starters, but they have to have 2632 01:57:37,880 --> 01:57:40,840 Speaker 3: influence on your team, and you have to have the 2633 01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:44,200 Speaker 3: ability to distribute what you want your culture. You're saying 2634 01:57:44,280 --> 01:57:46,680 Speaker 3: your speech, your ideology as a coach, as a GM 2635 01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,000 Speaker 3: to these players and they can distribute it down to 2636 01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:51,240 Speaker 3: the lower ranks and the younger guys. 2637 01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:53,800 Speaker 2: Harvey and dixill is our final call of the season, Harve, 2638 01:57:53,840 --> 01:57:54,160 Speaker 2: what's up? 2639 01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:57,320 Speaker 9: I want to thank you all for allowing me to 2640 01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:01,080 Speaker 9: express my ideas this year and to increased my learning curve. 2641 01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:03,520 Speaker 9: It is a privilege and it's very special for me. 2642 01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:03,920 Speaker 2: Thank you. 2643 01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:10,160 Speaker 9: A little time. But uh, the first call I made 2644 01:58:10,200 --> 01:58:14,240 Speaker 9: this this season was how much respect to have? A 2645 01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:18,400 Speaker 9: week Martindale's element of surprise? I called the musical Chairs 2646 01:58:18,720 --> 01:58:23,240 Speaker 9: defense element surprise and uh and that I found Shane 2647 01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:27,880 Speaker 9: Bowen's defense to be very vanilla, uh and and undisciplined. 2648 01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:31,520 Speaker 9: I haven't changed my opinion about that. Also, I can 2649 01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:34,480 Speaker 9: throw some things if you have time. You know, Neighbors 2650 01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:36,760 Speaker 9: is better, I believe than he was at the beginning 2651 01:58:36,760 --> 01:58:39,760 Speaker 9: of the year. He was interviewed. He said he's practicing 2652 01:58:39,880 --> 01:58:42,400 Speaker 9: catching the ball with his hands. I don't know what 2653 01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,440 Speaker 9: he did at L s U, but he's better. Also, 2654 01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,640 Speaker 9: I believe that the push tush play is an injury 2655 01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:51,200 Speaker 9: waiting to happen. It should be a penalty, and you 2656 01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:54,640 Speaker 9: would interview Dohanowski in a pre game I think last week, 2657 01:58:55,080 --> 01:58:58,360 Speaker 9: and I believe in the role of the fullback, increasing blocking, 2658 01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:03,720 Speaker 9: especially with tight end, and and I maybe your opinion 2659 01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:06,800 Speaker 9: about why Drew lock can't be that bridge quarterback. I 2660 01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,600 Speaker 9: think he has better skills than people think. 2661 01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:11,240 Speaker 2: All right, appreciate it, Harvey, which one of those you 2662 01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:13,120 Speaker 2: want to hit jays you have about Drew Locke as 2663 01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:15,240 Speaker 2: a potential bridge. We can go there, and then once 2664 01:59:15,320 --> 01:59:17,560 Speaker 2: you hit on what you think of Shane Boness defense 2665 01:59:17,600 --> 01:59:18,000 Speaker 2: this year. 2666 01:59:18,280 --> 01:59:21,720 Speaker 3: I'll do the Shane Bones defense. First. I've talked about 2667 01:59:21,760 --> 01:59:25,879 Speaker 3: Spags plenty of times. You know, I played underneath Spags 2668 01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:30,880 Speaker 3: for four years, three years here, one year in New Orleans. 2669 01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:34,320 Speaker 3: And I've said this before. You know, our first year 2670 01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:37,520 Speaker 3: here in New York with Spagnola, we weren't good at all. 2671 01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:40,080 Speaker 3: We had like one of the bottom rank defense in 2672 01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:42,840 Speaker 3: the league, if not we were dead last. But then 2673 01:59:42,880 --> 01:59:44,680 Speaker 3: it took a little while, actually took you know, a 2674 01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:47,640 Speaker 3: couple of free agenc signs here and there. Everybody bought it. 2675 01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:49,240 Speaker 3: In the next year, we were top three defense in 2676 01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:52,880 Speaker 3: the league. Even even you look at what they're doing 2677 01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:57,040 Speaker 3: in in Kansas City. A couple of seasons ago. You know, 2678 01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:59,880 Speaker 3: they start kind of slow sometimes but then they catch on. 2679 02:00:00,440 --> 02:00:02,520 Speaker 2: It went from mahomes to carrying the defense. So then 2680 02:00:02,760 --> 02:00:04,720 Speaker 2: two years ago the defense going to carry the offense 2681 02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:05,120 Speaker 2: a little bit. 2682 02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:07,400 Speaker 3: It takes a little while to not only you know, 2683 02:00:08,120 --> 02:00:11,680 Speaker 3: you know, install like the ideology and also like the 2684 02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:15,000 Speaker 3: day to day calls. Uh, But then also you gotta 2685 02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:18,040 Speaker 3: get the right personnel to run your defense. And that's 2686 02:00:18,200 --> 02:00:21,240 Speaker 3: not usually a plug and play, it's usually a plug in. 2687 02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:23,520 Speaker 3: And then okay, let's see how this works out with 2688 02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:25,720 Speaker 3: this squad. And then we got to bring in pieces 2689 02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:28,520 Speaker 3: that match Shane Bowen and what he wants to do. 2690 02:00:30,320 --> 02:00:34,360 Speaker 3: And the other question was about so it might take 2691 02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,040 Speaker 3: a little time with the with the defense, it might 2692 02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:36,720 Speaker 3: take a little time. 2693 02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:37,080 Speaker 4: You know. 2694 02:00:37,320 --> 02:00:40,400 Speaker 3: This year, I mean you got you got Dexter, he's out, 2695 02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,920 Speaker 3: like you know, like you had its high spots this year. 2696 02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:47,040 Speaker 3: But for me, I didn't like that the Giants were 2697 02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:49,240 Speaker 3: giving up a lot of rushing yards on a consistent 2698 02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:52,400 Speaker 3: basis the entire season. I never liked that because I 2699 02:00:52,480 --> 02:00:55,920 Speaker 3: think when you want to, you know, show your physicality, 2700 02:00:56,240 --> 02:00:57,920 Speaker 3: when you want to show how physical of a team 2701 02:00:58,040 --> 02:01:00,440 Speaker 3: you are, that's the number one thing I feel like 2702 02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:02,760 Speaker 3: when you gauge are you running the football on teams 2703 02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:04,840 Speaker 3: and are you stopping to run? And the Giants haven't. 2704 02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,960 Speaker 3: Then did both either this year consistently well? 2705 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,560 Speaker 2: And then Drew Locke is a potential bridge quarterback or 2706 02:01:10,640 --> 02:01:11,480 Speaker 2: just being back next year? 2707 02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:14,960 Speaker 3: I mean was last week that last game against the Colts? 2708 02:01:15,120 --> 02:01:18,400 Speaker 3: Was it an anomaly you know? Or could he replicate 2709 02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:21,200 Speaker 3: stuff like that on a consistent basis. When I say 2710 02:01:21,240 --> 02:01:23,760 Speaker 3: consistent basis, you know one out of every couple of games, 2711 02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:26,200 Speaker 3: I mean he had five touchdowns, Like that's insane. 2712 02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:29,160 Speaker 2: Even though Jackson, based on his career production, that was 2713 02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:30,440 Speaker 2: an outliers. 2714 02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,880 Speaker 3: An out so it probably not. I don't know. I 2715 02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:36,120 Speaker 3: think he's a good dude. I think the guys like him. 2716 02:01:36,160 --> 02:01:38,040 Speaker 2: Oh they don't like him, They love he is a 2717 02:01:38,040 --> 02:01:38,400 Speaker 2: good dude. 2718 02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:40,640 Speaker 3: But for me, when I was thinking about a stop 2719 02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:42,840 Speaker 3: gap guy, I was thinking about a guy with a 2720 02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:44,880 Speaker 3: little bit more experience underneath his belt, with a little 2721 02:01:44,880 --> 02:01:47,280 Speaker 3: bit more wins. I think his belt possibly some playoff 2722 02:01:47,320 --> 02:01:49,600 Speaker 3: wins in there, you know. I think for me, that's 2723 02:01:49,640 --> 02:01:51,640 Speaker 3: the type of level that I feel like when you 2724 02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:54,560 Speaker 3: when you bring a guy like that in other guys 2725 02:01:54,760 --> 02:01:57,040 Speaker 3: tighten up like other guys, like let me just just 2726 02:01:57,080 --> 02:01:58,600 Speaker 3: straighten up my chair, you know what I mean, Like 2727 02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:00,560 Speaker 3: let me sit up in my seat. You got to 2728 02:02:00,560 --> 02:02:03,000 Speaker 3: bring in guys like that that command a room, that 2729 02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:05,720 Speaker 3: command respect. It can't just be the head coach and 2730 02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:08,080 Speaker 3: the GM and the owner. It needs to be several 2731 02:02:08,160 --> 02:02:10,200 Speaker 3: guys on the team that has that effect in the 2732 02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:10,600 Speaker 3: locker room. 2733 02:02:10,680 --> 02:02:12,480 Speaker 2: Jaz final thoughts setting into the off season. 2734 02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:15,560 Speaker 3: Here man best to help to everybody on this team. 2735 02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:19,240 Speaker 3: Thank you schmil, Thank you much opportunity. I love working 2736 02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:23,400 Speaker 3: with Yustovski, everybody here with the radio broadcast crew today 2737 02:02:23,520 --> 02:02:26,440 Speaker 3: was great. Talking to Phil Simms, Tommy Tavern was great. 2738 02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Best of health to all of the players. I wish 2739 02:02:29,760 --> 02:02:33,320 Speaker 3: them nothing but nothing but the most success the day 2740 02:02:33,400 --> 02:02:35,480 Speaker 3: ball to Shane. I hope they're back so we can 2741 02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:37,760 Speaker 3: continue to talk about them and talk about the job 2742 02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:39,920 Speaker 3: they need to do to help this team to get to, 2743 02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:42,120 Speaker 3: you know, where they haven't been at a couple of years, 2744 02:02:42,160 --> 02:02:46,000 Speaker 3: which is the playoffs. But yeah, man, I'm this. I 2745 02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:49,919 Speaker 3: love working for this, for this squad. It's hard sometimes 2746 02:02:49,960 --> 02:02:52,280 Speaker 3: to watch some of these games, but I still love it, 2747 02:02:52,440 --> 02:02:54,040 Speaker 3: you know, Like it's hard to watch but I love it. 2748 02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:56,120 Speaker 3: I love the game, I love being here, I love 2749 02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:58,640 Speaker 3: the people in this building, and it's a great organization. 2750 02:02:58,720 --> 02:02:59,960 Speaker 3: The football just got to catch up a little. 2751 02:03:00,160 --> 02:03:02,440 Speaker 2: We love you too, man. Appreciate jac been fun work 2752 02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:04,680 Speaker 2: with you all year. That's Giants Extra Point. It was 2753 02:03:04,720 --> 02:03:06,760 Speaker 2: brought to you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants. 2754 02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:09,320 Speaker 2: Citizens has made ready for Giants fans, Hacking, sackamourny and 2755 02:03:09,320 --> 02:03:11,840 Speaker 2: health keep getting better. Kilos Boiler is the world's best 2756 02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:15,760 Speaker 2: bill boilers and by Moody's Decode Risk Unlocked Opportunity. Learnmore 2757 02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:18,960 Speaker 2: at moodies dot com. Jerry Reccos coming up next right 2758 02:03:19,000 --> 02:03:20,320 Speaker 2: here on the Fan. But first I want to take 2759 02:03:20,320 --> 02:03:22,480 Speaker 2: the time to thank all the people that have helped 2760 02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,000 Speaker 2: us over the course of this season on our radio broadcast. 2761 02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:27,360 Speaker 2: Obviously we have the guys on the air that you 2762 02:03:27,440 --> 02:03:29,800 Speaker 2: hear every week. Thanks to Bob and Carl and Howard 2763 02:03:30,040 --> 02:03:32,960 Speaker 2: who've done a great job. Thanks to JC called Latino 2764 02:03:33,080 --> 02:03:34,920 Speaker 2: join us in the locker room, Shoon O'Hara for jumping 2765 02:03:34,960 --> 02:03:36,720 Speaker 2: in every now and then as well, and all the 2766 02:03:36,800 --> 02:03:38,760 Speaker 2: players that have been guests for us on the pregame show, 2767 02:03:39,320 --> 02:03:41,040 Speaker 2: on the alumni that have been up and talking to 2768 02:03:41,160 --> 02:03:43,840 Speaker 2: us celebrating the Giants one hundredth per year. Thanks to 2769 02:03:43,880 --> 02:03:46,800 Speaker 2: everyone that put all that together and Nela shad Don Sprolling, 2770 02:03:46,920 --> 02:03:50,720 Speaker 2: everyone that did all the events, Carrie Sidney, Christine, everyone 2771 02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,080 Speaker 2: in our department. I can't list everyone on all the time, 2772 02:03:53,120 --> 02:03:54,720 Speaker 2: but it helped us all the Giants one hundred stuff 2773 02:03:54,920 --> 02:03:56,920 Speaker 2: and getting our radio broadcast up at these events and 2774 02:03:56,960 --> 02:03:59,080 Speaker 2: every other special things we've done. We thank all of 2775 02:03:59,160 --> 02:04:01,680 Speaker 2: you guys for supporting us and helping us do the 2776 02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:04,240 Speaker 2: job in the weeds with us on the radio broadcast. 2777 02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:06,800 Speaker 2: The guys that control the quality of the audio in 2778 02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,920 Speaker 2: our broadcast Chris Magikowski and Griffin Ward, they do a 2779 02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,480 Speaker 2: great job. Thank you guys. Pete Hoffman, who has produced 2780 02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:14,240 Speaker 2: a game, stepped in for me since I'm doing pre 2781 02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:17,080 Speaker 2: and postgame. Excellent job. And Pete gets all our postgame 2782 02:04:17,120 --> 02:04:18,800 Speaker 2: audio in the locker room to awesome job. 2783 02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:19,120 Speaker 17: Pete. 2784 02:04:19,440 --> 02:04:22,840 Speaker 2: Lexis Luro, our pregame and postgame producer for home games. 2785 02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:26,440 Speaker 2: Awesome job, LEXI thank you very much. Matt Stovski who 2786 02:04:26,440 --> 02:04:30,360 Speaker 2: does everything from sideline audio to stats to everything else 2787 02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:32,960 Speaker 2: we might need, including producing free and posts. Today, Thank 2788 02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:34,960 Speaker 2: you to him. The guy that holds it all together. 2789 02:04:35,040 --> 02:04:37,840 Speaker 2: Back in the studio, Connor Green, who runs the board, 2790 02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:40,600 Speaker 2: edits the audio on the fly, you name it, he 2791 02:04:40,760 --> 02:04:44,160 Speaker 2: does it. He keeps the ship running smoothly. Awesome job, Connor. 2792 02:04:44,520 --> 02:04:46,520 Speaker 2: And then of course we have our engineers back at FAM. 2793 02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:49,560 Speaker 2: Bob Carl does most of our games with the technical operations. 2794 02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:52,200 Speaker 2: I think Martin Travers was there today. Steve Aprier did 2795 02:04:52,240 --> 02:04:55,280 Speaker 2: our pregame at tommyc he does our remote broadcast. Think 2796 02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:57,200 Speaker 2: I got everyone? Did I miss anyone? I'm not gonna 2797 02:04:57,240 --> 02:04:59,600 Speaker 2: yell that for anyone. I got everybody. I'm good, that's sure. 2798 02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:01,880 Speaker 2: Thank you to everybody. Great job you guys make me 2799 02:05:01,960 --> 02:05:04,880 Speaker 2: look good. It's tough job, I know. I appreciate that. 2800 02:05:05,320 --> 02:05:07,240 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, and thank you everybody out there 2801 02:05:07,280 --> 02:05:09,480 Speaker 2: for being with us all year round. I'm the fan 2802 02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,160 Speaker 2: here in New York. Thank you so much. It's gonna 2803 02:05:12,160 --> 02:05:14,880 Speaker 2: be a great NFL playoffs, folks, It's gonna be fantastic. 2804 02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:18,280 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. FN has a lot of that coverage throughout 2805 02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:21,080 Speaker 2: the year. And once again, Jerry Reco coming up next 2806 02:05:21,360 --> 02:05:23,240 Speaker 2: right here on the fan for our tire Crewe. I 2807 02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:25,480 Speaker 2: am John Schmulk for one final time in the twenty 2808 02:05:25,560 --> 02:05:28,160 Speaker 2: twenty four season. We'll see you next year, hopefully a 2809 02:05:28,240 --> 02:05:30,800 Speaker 2: much better year for this year. Football Giants. Jerry Reco 2810 02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:33,720 Speaker 2: coming your way. Next on the Bob's Just Scott Furniture, 2811 02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:34,920 Speaker 2: WFN giants right, you know