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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: We're looking at the Israel Hamas war. Bring you up

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Speaker 2: to speed with all of the latest. There is an

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Speaker 2: effort underway to get aid into Gaza. There's a massive

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Speaker 2: humanitarian crisis unfolding there. The major Israeli ground war against

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Speaker 2: Hamas which will occur in Gaza has not yet kicked off,

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Speaker 2: but it could happen any day now. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: that's still going on here and unresolved, and hour by

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Speaker 2: hour the picture is changing. Joe Biden here this is

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Speaker 2: this is on Air Force one and here he is,

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Speaker 2: this is cut three, talking about what his goals are.

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Speaker 2: By going to the region, play it we took off.

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Speaker 3: My goal was multatul well, basically to get humanitarian aide

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Speaker 3: into Gossip and to and get as many Americans out

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Speaker 3: who wanted.

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Speaker 4: To get out could get out as possible.

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Speaker 5: And so we got a commitment, as you know from

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Speaker 5: the from the Israelis, including their Bremanos, their war cabinet

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Speaker 5: and determined inst And the second thing was that I

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Speaker 5: wanted to make sure there was a vehicle mechanism that

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Speaker 5: this can happen quickly.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 2: One part of this clay that does not get much discussion,

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Speaker 2: or nearly enough discussion, I think in the media about

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Speaker 2: this is one the Americans who have already been killed,

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Speaker 2: as well as the Americans and other hostages currently being

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Speaker 2: held by Hamas. It seems that there may be part

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Speaker 2: of the of the pause here in the major groundwar

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Speaker 2: could be related to negotiations those hostages. Specifically, it's likely

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Speaker 2: that the Palestinians are moving them around so that it

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Speaker 2: becomes very difficult for a rapid response raid to free them.

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Speaker 2: So they're likely moving some of them. We don't know that,

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Speaker 2: but that's in keeping with the practices of terrorist groups

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Speaker 2: like this in the past. And we want to get

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Speaker 2: some kind of resolution on this before though, because once

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Speaker 2: the war starts and buildings are being leveled and the

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Speaker 2: missiles and the bullets are flying those hostages, the chance

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Speaker 2: of getting them out safely seems like it diminishes dramatically.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand why this isn't the number one story

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Speaker 2: associated with Israel right now. And I was watching and

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Speaker 2: I've been and I know it's tough, but if you

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Speaker 2: are a parent, can you imagine or a grandparent, but

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Speaker 2: a parent in particular, can you imagine the ten days

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Speaker 2: of hell that you have been through knowing nothing about

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Speaker 2: where your kids are, where your babies might be. To me,

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Speaker 2: I was very surprised that Biden didn't make the focus

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Speaker 2: of his trip to Israel the immediate release and return

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Speaker 2: of all hostages. And even yesterday we're in DC right now,

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Speaker 2: just up the street, Palestinian and Hamas protesters took over

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Speaker 2: the Capitol.

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Speaker 6: Demanding a ceasefire. I don't understand why the primary focus

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Speaker 6: of everyone isn't these hostages, because buck, as soon as

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Speaker 6: Israel goes into Gaza, I think there's a very good

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Speaker 6: chance that those hostages get killed. And like, why did

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Speaker 6: Biden not stand up and say directly into the cameras,

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Speaker 6: because there's talk that he's been meeting with Americans whose

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Speaker 6: kids are being held hostage. Right now, we've got American citizens.

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Speaker 6: We don't know how many, at least I haven't seen,

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Speaker 6: but you know ten or more that are being held

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Speaker 6: hostage by Hamas right now. How was his primary statement

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Speaker 6: when he was in Israel, not release these hostages immediately

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Speaker 6: or we will rain down Holy hell on you, And

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Speaker 6: how is the focus the ceasefire when all of these

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Speaker 6: hostages are still there, No one seems to be talking

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Speaker 6: about them. Yeah, think about back in the Jimmy Carter

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Speaker 6: and this is Bucke was before you and I were around.

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Speaker 6: But when Iran took Americans hostage in the Jimmy Carter administration,

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Speaker 6: I've at least studied that historically. I know a lot

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Speaker 6: of you listening to us right now live through it.

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Speaker 6: It was an obsession of the American media to get

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Speaker 6: those hostages back. Think about how much talk we had

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Speaker 6: about Britney Krener when Russia took her over. Think about

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Speaker 6: how much talk there's been about it. And I'm not

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Speaker 6: justifying this in any way, but the reporter for the

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Speaker 6: to release and charged with Spotskovich. Yes, how is there

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Speaker 6: not a similar obsession right now by American media on

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Speaker 6: bring these hostages home? These are one hundred percent incent people,

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Speaker 6: many of them young. I think you're leading into something

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Speaker 6: a lot of the mentality around how the media discusses this.

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Speaker 6: It's very hard for Western and particularly American media sources

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Speaker 6: to play their moral relativity game and moral equivalency when

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Speaker 6: there are Americans being held as hostages under threat of

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Speaker 6: that's ready to send in commandos to save them, get

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Speaker 6: That side is Israel. These are our people who are

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Speaker 6: being held. These are Americans who are being held. There

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Speaker 6: are Americans who have been killed, and it is only

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Speaker 6: by Hamas that these horrible things have happened. And Israel

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Speaker 6: any Americans in harm's way. So I think part of

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Speaker 6: this is there's not as you know, you're seeing so

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Speaker 6: much focus on the you know, the humanitarian concerns, the

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Speaker 6: humanitarian concerns in Gaza, and we've talked about it, and yes.

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Speaker 2: That's Biden, this is part of the effort. But what

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Speaker 2: about the fact that right now Hamas America is a

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Speaker 2: non combatant in this at least officially, Hamas is holding

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Speaker 2: some of our people, and Hamas has killed some of

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Speaker 2: our people. These are acts of war against the United States. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So this is where it's it's a different conversation even

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Speaker 2: have our people in harm's way. And I will say this,

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris, this Kamala Harris SoundBite. I wanted to play

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Speaker 2: a few clay just because it is a reminder she

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Speaker 2: manages to eat at a time when the best thing

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Speaker 2: she could probably do is just like say nothing and

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Speaker 2: stay out of this. She manages to do this weak

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Speaker 2: version of quasi solidarity with the Palestinian cause. Play nine.

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Speaker 7: As we have constantly made clear, our support for Israel's

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Speaker 7: security is unwavering, and Israel has a right to defend

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Speaker 7: itself from Hamas terrorists. And let us be clear, terrorism

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Speaker 7: is never justified. And as I said yesterday, Israelis and

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Speaker 7: Palestinians must have equal measures of security and prosperity. And

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Speaker 7: I support the right of the Palestinian people to dignity,

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Speaker 7: freedom and self determination.

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Speaker 2: Now, if those are just words, obviously, and if those

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Speaker 2: words are to have any meaning, the Palestinian people will

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Speaker 2: never have dignity, freedom and self determination while Hamas is

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Speaker 2: their government, while a terrorist entity that is as hateful,

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Speaker 2: sadistic and immoral as any other g hottest terror entity

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Speaker 2: out there is their official government buck thirty. I think

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Speaker 2: the number is thirty one. Staff can correct me if

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. I think it's thirty one Americans. We now

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Speaker 6: I have not seen the official number of how many

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Speaker 6: Americans are being held hostage. But think about this, coming

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Speaker 6: out of that ridiculous Kamala Harris SoundBite where she's basically

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Speaker 6: trying to play both sides, right, Hey, we love Israel,

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Speaker 6: but we also love Palestine. I know there's good and

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Speaker 6: evil here. Think about this. How much more attention did

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Speaker 6: the fake allegation of Israel blowing up a hospital get

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Speaker 6: I would just go back again. I think this is

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Speaker 6: really interesting. We got a lot of media members out

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Speaker 6: there that'll listen to this show. Think about the historical

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Speaker 6: and now when Iran took our people hostage in nineteen

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Speaker 6: seventy nine, I think it was, and how much obsession

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Speaker 6: there was with those American hostages. Those are grown adults

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Speaker 6: who were in an embassy. I'm not saying that it

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Speaker 6: is probably for young people the way that they're more

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Speaker 6: to get those people home, and Jimmy Carter basically rambled

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Speaker 6: his presidency on the ability to get them home. And

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Speaker 6: because of the you know, sandstorm and the helicroppers in

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Speaker 6: the desert, it turned into a disaster. But Clay to

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Speaker 6: your point about the hostage holding. Militaries don't hold hostages, right,

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Speaker 6: military will hold prisoners of war. These are kids, These

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Speaker 6: are children. Yes, this is what terrorist groups do, right.

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Speaker 6: This is a different thing. This is not people that

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Speaker 6: or anything else. Who are combatants. They have seized women

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Speaker 6: in order to get leverage against.

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Speaker 2: The press side.

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Speaker 6: And just think Buck, how often when we know a

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Speaker 6: kid has been kidnapped in America, the American news media

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Speaker 6: goes all in. I'm talking about stranger kidnappings, right, Because

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Speaker 6: a custody dispute. But we just had was it up

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Speaker 6: I think she's okay. But that story was everywhere. And

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Speaker 6: think about how I'm just pointing this out. Think about

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Speaker 6: how our media covered that one escaped prisoner in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 6: like it was an absolute necessity that that person be caught,

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Speaker 6: and it's one person. Have we even heard detail the

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Speaker 6: analysis of who from America? Which American citizens are being held,

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Speaker 6: is the American media to advocate for these American prisoners.

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Speaker 6: I haven't even heard very many politicians talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Well, where this is where it also goes to the

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Speaker 2: moral clarity with which everyone should be able to see

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Speaker 2: this moment in time. Only one side here Hamas intentionally

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Speaker 2: goes out of its way, plots to and then celebrates

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Speaker 2: the murdering of defenseless men, women, and children. Only one

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Speaker 2: side in this conflict, Hamas engages in the kidnapping of men, women,

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Speaker 2: Kamala Harris says, oh I stand with the Palestinian people's

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Speaker 2: desire for dignity and freedom, Well, in this case, that

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Speaker 2: means that Hamas has got to go, and they're not

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Speaker 6: By the way back to Joe Biden, and by the way,

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Speaker 6: production staff says, thirty people Americans that they know are dead.

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Speaker 6: Let me just ask you this question. There are thirteen

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Speaker 6: Americans unaccounted for right now. Joe Biden went to Israel.

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Speaker 6: Why didn't Joe Biden stand in front of the cameras

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Speaker 6: and say, I'm not leaving Israel, told the American citizens

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Speaker 6: that Hamas is holding hostage right now, are on the

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Speaker 6: plane with me going back.

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Speaker 2: I will say this, if Donald Trump were president of

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Speaker 2: the United States, I think the level of you know,

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Speaker 2: mess with me and find out he would have specifically

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Speaker 2: for those Americans being held. Yes, would be something that

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Speaker 2: the Palestinian would pay.

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Speaker 6: Attention, wouldn't buck, I mean, just from basic humanity. Biden

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Speaker 6: claims that he cares so much because he's lost a son.

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Speaker 6: I can't imagine anything hardly worse than your kids being

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Speaker 6: held hostage by Hamas terrorist and you having no idea

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Speaker 6: where they are, how healthy they are, what they're having

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Speaker 6: done to them over the last ten days. As a dad,

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Speaker 6: I can't get past that. And I don't understand how

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Speaker 8: Now there's there's proof put out by the Israelis that

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Speaker 8: Israel didn't put out statement immediately because they were chanting it.

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Speaker 2: Schumer speaking sense, Fetterman speaking sense again. This is my

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Speaker 6: Look, I praised. I never thought I would do it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Dana Carvey, I think is still one of the

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Speaker 2: professor West, I would donate to him.

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Speaker 6: And I was hitting on the Zogbie poll earlier. In

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Speaker 6: And RFK Junior is right on COVID, but man, is

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Speaker 4: I would be.

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Speaker 9: Against cast if there was no other if there was

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Speaker 9: And you know, I grew up in a Jim Crow

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Speaker 9: And it continues today in a million different ways, and

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Speaker 2: Now, there are a lot of problems with this, not

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Speaker 2: Once you start doing that, anybody should understand, you're never

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Speaker 2: How would you actually determine who gets these reparations to

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Speaker 6: Is that?

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Speaker 2: What are the qualifying factors? They've started to look into

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Speaker 2: I'm all about justice.

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Speaker 6: I'm all about it.

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Speaker 2: And then it came down to this is going to

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Speaker 2: of California. I forget what the number was. There's some

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Speaker 2: crazy number. And he's like, well, I mean I don't

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Speaker 2: like justice that much.

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Speaker 6: Well, and what's crazy about California in particular, Buck, is

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Speaker 6: the state of California never had slavery, So the entire

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Speaker 6: history of the state of California, slavery was never legal.

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Speaker 6: And I think the population is only I think only

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Speaker 6: six or seven percent of California is black, So you're

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Speaker 6: not even talking about a state that has a large

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Speaker 6: black population. And what they proposed in reparations would have

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Speaker 6: bankrupted the state of California. Eight hundred billion dollars is

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Speaker 6: what the initial California group here that was. It was

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Speaker 6: one point two million dollars per black resident. Eight hundred

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Speaker 6: billion dollars according to the Hill dot com here.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a lot of money for a state. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna put that out there. Yeah, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: of money.

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Speaker 6: And also to your point, you end up in a

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Speaker 6: super racist place when you try to figure out how

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Speaker 6: to pay reparations, because I mean, let's be honest, well,

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Speaker 6: what happens if you have a black father and a

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Speaker 6: white mother? Correct? No, I mean seriously, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have you an Asian dad and a

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Speaker 2: black mom or you know, go down the list.

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Speaker 6: And also, I mean what happens when your family was

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Speaker 6: not in the United States at a time of slavery,

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Speaker 6: which is a huge percentage of people who have come

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Speaker 6: in from Nigeria for instance.

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Speaker 2: Or you know, a Romanian immigrant who's been trying to

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Speaker 2: like save up for his family so who can get

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Speaker 2: that first starter home. He's going to be told, you know,

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Speaker 2: what portion of your taxes is going to have to

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Speaker 2: go to this massive bill for reparations for something that

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Speaker 2: you had absolutely absolutely nothing to do.

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Speaker 6: And was it affirmative action ostensibly reparations?

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Speaker 2: And isn't the Great Society programs and all of these

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Speaker 2: massive god from institutions of spending of welfare. Wasn't that

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Speaker 2: all supposed to have the function of bringing eliminating poverty

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Speaker 2: in the black community. And in fact, the programs of

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Speaker 2: Lyndon Johnson and the continuation of the expansionation and continuity.

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Speaker 2: You just look at the number ups. You look at

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Speaker 2: black family formation in nineteen, say, the nineteen fifties, and

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Speaker 2: then you look at it today, and the rates of

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Speaker 2: out of wedlock births have absolutely skyrocketed, The levels of

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Speaker 2: state dependence have absolutely skyrocketed. These programs of the government

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Speaker 2: coming in and giving people money to make things better

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Speaker 2: because of historical injustice have overwhelmingly been failures. And now

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Speaker 2: there's enough distance between a lot of these events of

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Speaker 2: the past that people just say, this is outrageously unfair.

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Speaker 2: Why am I being penalized for something that I wasn't

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Speaker 2: even alive during.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean the data reflects Thomas Sole has done

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Speaker 6: a great job breaking all this damn that from the

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Speaker 6: time slavery ended in eighteen sixty five to nineteen sixty

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Speaker 6: black families were increasing their overall success in the country

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Speaker 6: at an exponential rate. And then as soon as the

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Speaker 6: Great Society started to your point, Buck, you went from

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Speaker 6: most black kids growing up in two parent households where

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Speaker 6: a mom and a dad were present and there was

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Speaker 6: a support structure, which I understand there's lots of great

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Speaker 6: single parents out there listening to us right now. Doesn't

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Speaker 6: mean that your kids are going to struggle individually, but

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Speaker 6: I mean Bill Clinton and Barack Obama were both ended

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Speaker 6: up president of the United States from one parent household.

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Speaker 6: But as a group, children do infinitely better in two

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Speaker 6: parent households than they do in one parent households. And

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Speaker 6: the kids who do the worst in one parent households boys.

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Speaker 6: For whatever reason, they can't figure out what the data reflects.

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Speaker 6: Maybe boys need a father figure more than girls do

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Speaker 6: in single parent households, but boys are the biggest efficient

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Speaker 6: performers when it comes to one parent household. So what

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Speaker 6: is the data now? I think eighty percent or more

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Speaker 6: of all black kids are born into single parent households

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Speaker 6: right now, and that is one of the primary ways

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Speaker 6: to ensure that as a group. Again not on an

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Speaker 6: individual level, a lot of great single parents out there,

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Speaker 6: but on a group two parent household success rates are

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Speaker 6: infinitely higher. And there's this very important government principle of

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Speaker 6: once you spend money on something to achieve a result,

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Speaker 6: and you don't get that result, you know what, the

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Speaker 6: government wants more money. Yeah, every time. It's not like, oh,

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Speaker 6: there would be some reparations bill and that would be

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Speaker 6: the end of it. There would be some form of reparations.

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Speaker 2: Whether it's funding for business grants or whatever it is

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Speaker 2: that you know RFK Junior was talking about in specifics,

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Speaker 2: it would not have the intended effect, It would not

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Speaker 2: close the gap, and then they would say we need

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Speaker 2: more money.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, guaranteed, no no doubt. Look if Florida and descen

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Speaker 1: Need a break from politics a little common to counter

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Speaker 1: the craziness, So do we. The Sunday Hang, a weekend

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in Play

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Speaker 1: Travis Buck, Sexton Show sinator Josh Holly's gonna be in

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Speaker 1: studio with us next hour.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna break down. I think probably some of the

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Speaker 6: legal wrangling surrounding this Sydney Powell decision to plead guilty

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Speaker 6: what do we think is going to happen? They are

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Speaker 6: the ongoing drama surrounding the House speakership, all that and more.

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Speaker 6: But Buck, there's one battle that I never would have

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Speaker 6: had on the scorecard, and I appreciate the fact that

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Speaker 6: it is continuing, and it is current Jets quarterback who

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Speaker 6: is injured with the torn achilles tendon, Aaron Rodgers. Every

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Speaker 6: time he has an opportunity to when he goes on ESPN,

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Speaker 6: this is Pat McAfee's show. He is teeming off on

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Speaker 6: Doctor Fauci. I will tell you here's a prediction soon

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Speaker 6: if it hasn't already happened. And it's hard to keep

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Speaker 6: up with all the opinions getting bouncing around every single day,

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Speaker 6: there is going to be a massive push to not

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Speaker 6: allow Aaron Rodgers to go on a ESPN because he

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Speaker 6: made fun of Travis Kelce called him mister Pfizer, Travis

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Speaker 6: Kelce tight end, who's dating Taylor Swift. That's how a

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Speaker 6: lot of people know him. For the Kansas City Chiefs

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Speaker 6: that's been doing all these ads for the COVID shot.

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Speaker 6: I think we mentioned on the show this week. If

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Speaker 6: we did not, only two percent of the American public

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Speaker 6: is getting the COVID shot and Buck. I don't know

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Speaker 6: the new version, whatever it's called, I don't know if

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Speaker 6: you've paid attention to it. Pfizer stock is actually down

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Speaker 6: one hundred and seventy five billion dollars in market cap,

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Speaker 6: as Wall Street is suddenly realizing, wait a minute, these

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Speaker 6: COVID shots aren't going to be a yearly annuity like

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Speaker 6: we thought because Americans aren't getting them. And I would

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Speaker 6: even tell you I think Piser might go bankrupt if

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Speaker 6: we hadn't given as a country Peiser immunity on these

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Speaker 6: COVID shots, because I think people would be suing them

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Speaker 6: like crazy, just like we've seen with the opioid lawsuits

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Speaker 6: and everything else. And I think based on the failure

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Speaker 6: of these shots and the fact that so many people

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Speaker 6: have received negative results from the shots with virtually no

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Speaker 6: protection being given, I think there's a good chance that

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Speaker 6: Peiser would be on the ropes as a company. But regardless,

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Speaker 6: it's now Peiser stockbuck lower priced than before COVID ever started.

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Speaker 6: They had a spike up December of twenty one, it

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Speaker 6: peaked in value the company did on its market cap basis.

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Speaker 6: It's down fifty percent since then. As people are realizing, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: this COVID shot thing's basically given up the ghosts. Nobody's

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Speaker 6: getting it.

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Speaker 2: I bet if you were to track which insiders sold

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Speaker 2: stock and when, I think a lot of them realized

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Speaker 2: that the time was good, when the mandates were in

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Speaker 2: place and everything else. There were some stories specifically about

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Speaker 2: Moderna executives because I don't believe Moderna had even ever

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Speaker 2: had a product brought to market before the COVID vaccine.

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Speaker 2: I think that's true, don't That's a great question, And

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Speaker 2: so I don't think they had ever actually brought something

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Speaker 2: all the way to market. You know, it's very expensive

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Speaker 2: and very complicated to bring a new pharmaceutical forward, to

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Speaker 2: cost you billions of dollars and R and D and

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Speaker 2: the FDA trials and all that stuff. But I bet

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Speaker 2: that the people at Ffiser they've already made their you know,

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Speaker 2: the people that were on the inside the hell out

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Speaker 2: of stock, I think they've already made their cash. The

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Speaker 2: point that you're the mansion section I think it was

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Speaker 2: of the Wall Street Journal wrote in Boston about all

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Speaker 2: the executives who had spent tens of millions, if not

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Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars often of your tax payer

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Speaker 2: money on extreme luxury properties. But here is Aaron Rodgers,

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Speaker 2: by the way, taking a shot at doctor Fauci. Listened

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Speaker 2: to this yesterday or tuesday on ESPN.

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Speaker 4: This guy does stuff his own way. He actually by science.

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Speaker 2: This guy right here, right now, that's what they're saying

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Speaker 2: about you.

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Speaker 4: Shandon Sharp said this morning.

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Speaker 5: If, like we learned, if science is doctor Fauci, that's

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Speaker 5: on me.

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Speaker 6: If science is doctor Fauci is what Aaron Rodgers said,

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Speaker 6: You're damn right, I'm defying science. Isn't it fascinating that

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Speaker 6: there's still this animosity toward people who were you know,

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Speaker 6: went rogue so to speak against Fauciism and refuse to

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Speaker 6: get the shot. Isn't fascinating that as we look at

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Speaker 6: this people are they still treat them like they what

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Speaker 6: they did was reckless, even though what we now know

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Speaker 6: is that they were right.

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Speaker 2: Of course we've known that for a long time. But

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Speaker 2: they were correct. But they wouldn't you know, they wouldn't

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Speaker 2: go along, they wouldn't do as they were told, and

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Speaker 2: that still upsets the Fauci brigades. I'm just telling you

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Speaker 2: file this one away. There will be a massive push

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Speaker 2: I think in the weeks and months ahead to keep

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers from being allowed to go on to ESPN

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Speaker 2: weekly because of his taking the shots at the at

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Speaker 2: the COVID shot and.

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Speaker 6: By taking shots at shots. Yeah, there's nobody actually getting

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Speaker 6: this thing. Can we talk about ninety eight percent of

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Speaker 6: Americans are saying no to this shot?

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Speaker 2: I wonder when when we will cross the threshold where

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Speaker 2: it will suddenly become okay to say in any venue,

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Speaker 2: in any place. These are pretty much worthless because if

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Speaker 2: it stays at about two percent of the population that

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Speaker 2: gets this yes, then it's clearly a niche product or

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Speaker 2: at best for people that want a little extra protection

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Speaker 2: if their immunocompromised, and they're not sure how well it

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Speaker 2: will work. But when you see them making jokes about

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Speaker 2: this on you know, whatever's left of SNL, that's when

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Speaker 2: you know that the tides have turned.

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Speaker 6: No doubt what's going on in the house. We'll talk

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Speaker 6: about it next