WEBVTT - Pineal Optics: My Third Eye

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Julie Douglas. Julie,

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<v Speaker 1>do you ever open your third eye? Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>access to your third eye? Yeah? I opened up sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm index it. Get it a little squeaky clean. What

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<v Speaker 1>about you? Um, I guess it's mostly dormant, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but in yoga there's a lot of talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, occasionally we're talking about chakras and third eye.

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<v Speaker 1>So I get into that a little bit. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to freak you out or anything of

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<v Speaker 1>but it it's kind of winking at me right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pull sating under there. Oh, that might be a boil. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, So obviously we're gonna talk about the pennel

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<v Speaker 1>gland and it's also called the third eye. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so the third eye for for those of you who

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<v Speaker 1>have not been exposed to it, where we're gonna start

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<v Speaker 1>out with just a brief discussion about the non scientific

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<v Speaker 1>idea of the third eye, that being that there is this, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we have the two eyes with which we see the world,

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<v Speaker 1>but that buried inside us. There's this third eye that

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<v Speaker 1>if we are too, if we open it, we can

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<v Speaker 1>see something that isn't there, or something that is hidden

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<v Speaker 1>from our normal perceptions of the world that we we

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<v Speaker 1>will be able to see uh, the spiritual aspects of

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<v Speaker 1>the world around us, or see into the future, or

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<v Speaker 1>see into the now. Um. It really depends on who's

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<v Speaker 1>doing the talking as to what a third eye actually

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<v Speaker 1>consists of. You see, you see various takes on this

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<v Speaker 1>in Hinduism. Um. If you've ever looked at any Hindu iconography,

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<v Speaker 1>then you've you've no doubt seen like the flaming eye

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<v Speaker 1>of Um, of the of Shiva, that that burns and

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<v Speaker 1>shoots out flames. You. If you're familiar with with with

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<v Speaker 1>the yoga, for instance, you probably know of the ana chakra.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a position supposedly positioned in the main right

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<v Speaker 1>behind the eyebrows center and this involves you know, future site,

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<v Speaker 1>clear side presence, or even occult powers depending on who

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<v Speaker 1>again is doing the talking. You see, uh. You see

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<v Speaker 1>the third eye in Kabbalah, in Taoism, in various New

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<v Speaker 1>Age ideas and uh. And you know even in heavy

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<v Speaker 1>metal lyrics from time to time as well. Also Gwin Stefanie,

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<v Speaker 1>well you know she used to wear the Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>bindy is a reference to to the third eye, into

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<v Speaker 1>the into the chakra and all that. Um. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>anytime someone's wearing a bindy, they may not know it.

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<v Speaker 1>They might just be wearing it for purely uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ornamental reasons. But but there is this idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>third eye in that. What I think is so fascinating

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<v Speaker 1>about this topic is that the third eye has been

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<v Speaker 1>something that has been sabol symbolic to us, right, this

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<v Speaker 1>idea of seeing and seeing all. But really it does

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<v Speaker 1>have roots envision and we will talk about that via

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<v Speaker 1>the pineal gland. Um. So it's cool about this is

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<v Speaker 1>that somehow humans had sort of an inkling that this

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<v Speaker 1>third eye um might have actually been something within their

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<v Speaker 1>own brains that was giving them some sort of insight

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<v Speaker 1>or sensorial experience. And we'll talk more about that a bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so first let's uh, let's back up just a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about about the pineal gland and its history and

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<v Speaker 1>its connotations and associations with the idea of a third

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<v Speaker 1>eye and spiritual insight and all this. If you go

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<v Speaker 1>back in time, to around two thousand a d. You

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<v Speaker 1>had this man by the name of Galen, uh Greek

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<v Speaker 1>medical doctor philosopher, spent most of his time in Rome,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh he wrote on a number of things, but

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<v Speaker 1>he his writings dominated medical thinking like on up until

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<v Speaker 1>the seventeenth century. And he did discuss the pineal gland

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<v Speaker 1>in his eighth book UH of his anatomical work on

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<v Speaker 1>the usefulness of the parts of the body. And he

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<v Speaker 1>was really more interested in the pineal gland than than

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<v Speaker 1>anyone um at that time, or for you know, for

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<v Speaker 1>years and years afterwards. Now, this was a time when

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<v Speaker 1>when there there was this idea that the ventricles in

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<v Speaker 1>the brain flowed with something called psychic numa. And numa

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<v Speaker 1>is supposedly the breath of life in Stoic philosophy. It's

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<v Speaker 1>this uh fine vaporous substance that Galen described as the

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<v Speaker 1>first instrument of the soul. Okay, So imagine these uh,

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<v Speaker 1>these these old thinkers and UH philosophers, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're trying to understand out how the world works,

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<v Speaker 1>how the human body works. Um. There working with limited tools,

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<v Speaker 1>though at their disposal, and and they have only the

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<v Speaker 1>knowledge that came before them with which to understand it. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So there they have this idea of psychic numa in

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<v Speaker 1>their mind and they're poking around in um the brain

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<v Speaker 1>of of a corpse to see what they can find

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<v Speaker 1>and see what seems to do what. So when when

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<v Speaker 1>Galen looked at the pennel and uh, and he in

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<v Speaker 1>his book he describes the penel and talks about its

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<v Speaker 1>resemblance in shape and size to nuts found in the

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<v Speaker 1>cones of the stone pine. And that's will we made

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<v Speaker 1>the name peneal pine. Uh. Think about that next time

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<v Speaker 1>you have pine nuts. Yeah. So he's spoking around in

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<v Speaker 1>the brain, finds a pineal gland, but he doesn't see

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<v Speaker 1>it as really involving any of this numa, any of

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<v Speaker 1>this spiritual stuff, because he notices that it is outside.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something outside of the brain. And he thinks that

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<v Speaker 1>the part of the brain that's going to be involved

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<v Speaker 1>in regulating psychic numa is gonna be uh, something that

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<v Speaker 1>we call the vernis supier of Sarah Belli uh in

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<v Speaker 1>the Sarahbellum Uh. And then he figured that was much

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<v Speaker 1>more proper to play, to play that role. But okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so after his death again, his his work continues to

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<v Speaker 1>remain important. Uh. In medieval texts, it is misinterpreted a

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<v Speaker 1>few times, and it eventually the idea that the pineal

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<v Speaker 1>gland is involved with the human spirit um and in

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<v Speaker 1>our spiritual essence resurfaces. And and that's a long run,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, right up to the seventeenth century. Yeah, indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, and certainly these classical thinkers, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean many of them are still we still hold them

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<v Speaker 1>up high today. They were, they were groundbreakers. So the

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth century rolls around and we have a guy named

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<v Speaker 1>reneed to Carts who most people are familiar with, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because what's his famous quote? I think therefore I am yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>easy to remember for me because it was there was

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<v Speaker 1>a money python song about philosophers, the Australian Philosopher's Song.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a really bad joke too about how a waiter

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<v Speaker 1>asked him if if he would like dessert and he says,

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<v Speaker 1>I think not, and then he kills over. That's pretty good. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So reneed to Carts is, you know, primarily known for

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<v Speaker 1>his contributions to mathematics and philosophy, but he was also

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<v Speaker 1>really interested in anatomy psycho and in psychology as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So he ends up doing a lot of thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>what it is to be human and then the biological

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<v Speaker 1>aspect of that. And in this book, The Treaties of Man,

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<v Speaker 1>he describes a conceptual model of a human which consists

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<v Speaker 1>of two part body and soul. So the Carts works

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<v Speaker 1>up this theory that the pineal gland is the seat

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<v Speaker 1>of the sin. This communists in other words, it's the input.

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<v Speaker 1>It's where the input of the senses are bound into

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<v Speaker 1>an understanding of the world. So we see it involved

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<v Speaker 1>according to the deck Heart's in sensation, imagination, memory, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh and bodily movement. Now Deckart's theory would would go

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<v Speaker 1>on to be very important. A lot of people would

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<v Speaker 1>really take this and run with it, because it's an

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<v Speaker 1>important man saying some really awesome things about this little

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<v Speaker 1>tiny pine nut in our in our heads. However, it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to note that he was not really he wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>even really working with the best anatomical and physiological assumptions

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, so he's he's really kind of going

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<v Speaker 1>off in his own direction on this, but it continues

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<v Speaker 1>to be important towards the end of the nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>You see Madam Blavatsky, the founder of theosophy, and she

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<v Speaker 1>really gets into the idea of the third eye um

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<v Speaker 1>and and and the pennel and compares it to the

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<v Speaker 1>eye of Shiva, and she really argues that the pennel

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<v Speaker 1>land is an atrophied organ of spiritual vision. Switch Again,

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<v Speaker 1>as we've discussed, there's this idea of this third eye

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<v Speaker 1>hidden inside as that allows us some sort of sight

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<v Speaker 1>that we have forgotten and that can on some level

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<v Speaker 1>be attained again. Okay, so again what I find really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting about that is that there are seeds of truth

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<v Speaker 1>to that in terms of the tissues of the pineal gland.

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<v Speaker 1>And again we'll talk about that more and more scientific terms.

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<v Speaker 1>But this inkling that this there's this uh sensory perception

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<v Speaker 1>center in the pineal gland is correct. Yeah, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can also get behind the idea that there is an

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<v Speaker 1>ancient form of sight involved in the pineal gland. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of the theories back that up as well, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>not attuned with the spirit per se. By the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the podcast, will come back around to an inkling

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<v Speaker 1>of some of those ideas, but but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>from here on in put the spiritual world behind you,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's all going to be about seeing an evolution.

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<v Speaker 1>So if we crack open the skull as uh as

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<v Speaker 1>Galen did uh and we take a look at the pineal,

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<v Speaker 1>what are we gonna see. We're gonna see a small

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<v Speaker 1>organ shap like a pine nut, and it's located on

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<v Speaker 1>the midline attached to the posterior end of the roof

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<v Speaker 1>of the third ventricle in the brain. Now, in a

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<v Speaker 1>human it's roughly a cinamater in length varies, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is composed of penniless sites and glial cells, and in

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<v Speaker 1>older animals, the apennial often contains brain sand, which are

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<v Speaker 1>just calcium deposits. But I do love the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>brain sand. Um. Yeah, it is essentially an endocrine organ, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But I did want to mention that when the human

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<v Speaker 1>embryo is in the earliest stage of development, the cells

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<v Speaker 1>that will form the penneil gland have the potential known

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<v Speaker 1>as the differential excuse me to Frenchian potential to become

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<v Speaker 1>I cells such as lens, epiphilial layer or retina neuron cells.

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<v Speaker 1>So in other words, it has all the ingredients to

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<v Speaker 1>make a brand new eye, but it forms into this

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<v Speaker 1>endocrine organ which produces the hormone melatonin. Yeah. Again, and

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<v Speaker 1>it is cell your level, it is astonishingly similar to

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<v Speaker 1>the eye um, particularly to the cellular structure of the retina.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not just a thing where someone founded they're like,

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of looks like an eye, because it really

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really look like an eye, but but at at

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<v Speaker 1>a cellular level. And again, uh, in early and it's

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<v Speaker 1>into development we see the connections to our actual eyes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a great connection to as you say, evolution

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<v Speaker 1>when we look at the reason for this why this

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<v Speaker 1>peneon gland exists. But before we do that, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more about the melotonin um and its role,

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<v Speaker 1>because what we have found is that the human peneal

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<v Speaker 1>gland regulates the rhythm that beats out of the biological

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<v Speaker 1>clots of ourselves by secreting melotonin according to light stimulus

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<v Speaker 1>received through the eyes and from the skin as well

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<v Speaker 1>as other selves. So in the morning, the level of

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<v Speaker 1>melotonin secreted is low, in the evening it's high. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the benefit of exposure to natural light in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning is that the secretion of melotonin is curbed, enabling

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<v Speaker 1>the body to keep daily rhythm on track. Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>seems kind of straightforward and so what, but that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a big uh that's a big deal production going on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And we've talked before about the importance of melotonin and

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<v Speaker 1>serotonin in the human mind and the human body. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it has everything to do with our our biological patterns.

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<v Speaker 1>It had with our our our level of contentment with

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<v Speaker 1>the world and uh and certainly has come up in

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<v Speaker 1>our discussions of various uh um psychedelic properties as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you think about the penneal gland too, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like the control tower of the body, trying

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<v Speaker 1>to really sense to what degree it needs to secrete

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<v Speaker 1>the melotonin. Remember that it's getting these cues from skin cells,

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<v Speaker 1>other cells in the body um as well as the eye. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you can think of it as a transducer, Okay. The

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<v Speaker 1>pennel transduces signals from the sympathetic nerve system into a

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<v Speaker 1>hormonal signal. So it's like, uh, you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>assembling the human body, you say, out of an Ikea kit,

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<v Speaker 1>and you might see the pineal in its own little

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<v Speaker 1>little plastic bag there, and you might well leave it

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<v Speaker 1>out during the confusing assembly process, but you would definitely

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<v Speaker 1>notice that result. That is a that is an important

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<v Speaker 1>little nut to screw into the finished works. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>even with that tiny, little, tiny little uh what is

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<v Speaker 1>that supposed to be? I guess like a screwdriver, Alan

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<v Speaker 1>the Alan rinch looking thin. That's the thing is crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>Um that that has got to be the most frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>tool in existence. Um. I wanted to mention that in

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<v Speaker 1>the animals, the pineal gland is really paramount to reproductive

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<v Speaker 1>functions since the detection of increased light, let's say in

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<v Speaker 1>the spring by the peneal gland and just the secretion

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<v Speaker 1>of melotonin and then that sends this whole symphony of

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<v Speaker 1>cues to the animal's body to begin preparing for the

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<v Speaker 1>breeding season. So if you look at horses and sheep,

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<v Speaker 1>this involves a hypothalamus secreating the anterior pituitary hormones which

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<v Speaker 1>then essentially said out, yeah, I'm gonna say it, go

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<v Speaker 1>now a tropin And this is a hormone aimed at

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<v Speaker 1>bolstering the animals going ads and getting them ready for breeding. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I read a bit which said that when

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<v Speaker 1>you're breeding sheep, um, sheep, that normally breed only once

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<v Speaker 1>a year can be induced to into two breeding seasons

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<v Speaker 1>if you dose them up with melotona. Yep, exactly. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen this in examples with other animals too as well. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to mention this because I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is really interesting. Um, this role of milotonin. Again, we

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<v Speaker 1>just think of it as well that helps us to sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, have this wakefulness and not have wakefulness.

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<v Speaker 1>But I read this really very interesting study about how

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<v Speaker 1>malfunctioning circadian rhythm genes could be the basis for bipolar

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<v Speaker 1>disorder in children, many of whom are plagued with the

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<v Speaker 1>onset of sleep disorders at an early age. UM. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is really a big detail that sets bipolar disorder

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<v Speaker 1>apart from a d h D and kids, Um, this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of messed up sleep cycle or sleep disorders. R

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<v Speaker 1>O r N genes are expressed in the eye, brain

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<v Speaker 1>and pineal gland in. In a study of one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty two bipolar children and one hundred forty children

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<v Speaker 1>as a control, these children, obviously we're not bipolar or

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<v Speaker 1>thought to be. Psychiatrist Alexander Nicolausku of Indiana University found

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<v Speaker 1>four alterations to the r O r B gene that

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<v Speaker 1>were positively associated with being bipolar. So r O r

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<v Speaker 1>B expression is known to change as a function of

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<v Speaker 1>the circadian rhythm in some tissues, and mice without the

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<v Speaker 1>gene exhibit circadian rhythm abnormalities. So what they began to

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<v Speaker 1>see is that this this correlation with melotonum and with

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<v Speaker 1>disorders like this are hand in hand. And Nicolaski says

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<v Speaker 1>that every time we investigate some abnormality of molecular machinery

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<v Speaker 1>linked to the clock genes, we find an association with

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<v Speaker 1>bipolar disorder. So obviously there needs to be more research,

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<v Speaker 1>but it shows promise in the treatment and that researchers

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<v Speaker 1>have been on the right path and strictly regulating a

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<v Speaker 1>bipolar patients leap schedule to improve extreme mood cycles that

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<v Speaker 1>you see in bipolar disorder. Again, here's this pineal gland,

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<v Speaker 1>the controlled tower, but you know, trying to give out

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<v Speaker 1>the signals to the body. And it shows that something

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<v Speaker 1>like this can really sort of go awry if if

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<v Speaker 1>it's not all regulated. So I know what you're wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>where does it come from the pineal gland? How do

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<v Speaker 1>how do we end up with this this thing that

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<v Speaker 1>is in many ways and in many interpretations, a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of primitive eye buried in the center of our skull

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<v Speaker 1>without any actual um chance to glimpse the light. It

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<v Speaker 1>ends up being this is mere transducer. Well, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good question, and I'm glad you asked it because because

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're going to talk about you. So this

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<v Speaker 1>really gets down to questions of the evolution of the

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<v Speaker 1>human high and the evolution of sight and um. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you start thinking about ocular evolution, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>really old business here, like really important, like when you're

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<v Speaker 1>starting a business, like what are some of the first

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<v Speaker 1>things you have to have, right, You've got to have

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta have the building you had had the bad room,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first people you hire maybe you know you

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<v Speaker 1>you've you've gotta have the key people on staff before

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<v Speaker 1>you staff up from there. So when we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the development of the eye, we're talking about some very

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<v Speaker 1>old business and a lot of stuff ends up built

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<v Speaker 1>up around it. So it it makes sense when we

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<v Speaker 1>start talking about the ramifications of of melotonin levels on

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<v Speaker 1>all these varying levels of of of animal activity, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's route down to the to some of the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest development. So the eye has been around for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you look at the eye of a human

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<v Speaker 1>the eye of a fish, they're not all that different.

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<v Speaker 1>So it goes back a long ways in evolution. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you go back far enough in our development, you

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<v Speaker 1>find a cyclops, or more specifically, you find something called

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<v Speaker 1>a lanceolate, and these are primitive creatures. They're still around

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<v Speaker 1>today and they have just one eye. Now. A couple

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<v Speaker 1>of the main theories about the pennial evolution come down

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<v Speaker 1>to this idea of a developing two eyes from one

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<v Speaker 1>all right, so back in the day simple organisms, one eye,

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<v Speaker 1>and then his evolution progresses. This eye divides into left

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<v Speaker 1>and right. Now this is all predicated on the primordial brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this primitive brain that's just the solid mass, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a big ball. It hasn't divided yet into the right

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<v Speaker 1>and left half spheres. So the brain divides into two

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<v Speaker 1>and then from one eye we get two eyes now,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they're there. Even the various takes on which

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<v Speaker 1>came first, chicken or egg? Does the brain split because

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<v Speaker 1>the eye splits? Are does does the eye split because

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<v Speaker 1>the brain splits? Um You can sort of go either

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<v Speaker 1>ways on that too. Particularly interesting theories that stem from that.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, there's one here from Professor Masosuki Iraki

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<v Speaker 1>of Nara Women's University, and Professor Araki believes that the

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<v Speaker 1>third eye comes into being during the transition from one

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<v Speaker 1>eye to two. The position that iraqis describing is that

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<v Speaker 1>this the single eye pulls to the left and right

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and divided. Uh. An eye remains in the

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<v Speaker 1>spot where the single eye had originally been. So the

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<v Speaker 1>third eye then is not the third to be created,

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<v Speaker 1>but the first, the original. Okay, so it's uh so

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<v Speaker 1>we what we think of is the third eye is

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<v Speaker 1>essentially the tissue, the prime big primordial tissue, primordial I

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<v Speaker 1>really very simple. I right, that had that was able

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<v Speaker 1>to then sort of secrete itself back into our brains

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. Yeah, because we discussed with the way the

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<v Speaker 1>human body works. It's something doesn't just become useless overnight

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<v Speaker 1>and fall off of us. You know, it's stuff gets

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes sometimes well sometimes but but but but for for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, things get tucked away, Things get to

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<v Speaker 1>get to get hidden in case they're used later. Our

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<v Speaker 1>body can be sort of a hoarder in that example.

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<v Speaker 1>Another theory comes to us from David Klein, PhD. And

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<v Speaker 1>he and he works for the Nationalist Suit of help Um.

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<v Speaker 1>He has this theory that it all comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>UM to melatonin again in the in the head, in

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<v Speaker 1>the brain. And then the idea here is that rough

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<v Speaker 1>five million years ago, the ancestors of today's animals became

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<v Speaker 1>dependent on melotonin as a signal of darkness, and is

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<v Speaker 1>the need for more and more melotonin grows, the peneal

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<v Speaker 1>gland develops as a structure separate from the eyes to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the toxic substances UM needed to make melotonin away

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<v Speaker 1>from sensitive eye tissue. That's because this whole process of

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<v Speaker 1>red option and all other chemical sort of interacting with

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<v Speaker 1>one another, right, and the more distance you have, the

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<v Speaker 1>better UM in this making of melotonin. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>have that distance, then you are making sure that your

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are not going to be affected by the chemical.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sort of like the really very shallow dive on that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I kind of feel like booths of them are

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<v Speaker 1>correct because if you have this you know, primitive brain

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a ball that then uh evolved into this

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<v Speaker 1>right and left hemisphere and then you've got the tissue well,

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, the body is really good at saying okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting around, why don't you do something dumping some

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<v Speaker 1>some toxic stuff in there and some meloton and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not using that room for anything. And so we see

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing with our office here. We only have

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<v Speaker 1>so much room to work with. And then of an

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<v Speaker 1>office goes empty for too long, the video department will

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<v Speaker 1>move some stuff in there and start filming some some

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<v Speaker 1>skits and segments. The void gets filled. Yeah, um, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they all that you know, of course, then someone

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<v Speaker 1>is the control tower of the light source in all

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<v Speaker 1>the offices, the gland, controlling to what degree we are

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to um. So yeah, I think that was our earth.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's so fascinating to to see how the

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<v Speaker 1>human body can adapt like that. Um. And not just

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<v Speaker 1>the human body, but if you look at the lancelot,

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<v Speaker 1>this is really primitive creature. How the beginnings of that show,

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<v Speaker 1>how this this evolvement of our eye systems and our

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<v Speaker 1>penny all gland all sort of came together. Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was describing Iraqi's theory and you're imagining this

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<v Speaker 1>one eye in the middle of a head, I ended

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<v Speaker 1>up imagining a human face. Uh, well, actually your face,

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<v Speaker 1>since it's the one I'm looking at. Imagine an eye

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<v Speaker 1>in the center of your head, and then the two

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<v Speaker 1>eyes coming out, and then this, uh, this primordial eye receding.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're you may be wondering, was there ever a

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<v Speaker 1>time when you have three eyes? Three or at least

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<v Speaker 1>three ocular units on the face. And yes, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>We're glad you asked, because we're going to discuss after

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<v Speaker 1>this quick break. There are plenty of animals around today

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<v Speaker 1>which which do have they're two highly evolved eyes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then also this remnant eye, this uh, parietal eye, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very closely connected to everything we're talking about. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back the parietal eye. Now, if we look to

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<v Speaker 1>some examples in nature, we can get a fine, fine

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<v Speaker 1>feeling for what this parietal eye does. Yes, now we're

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<v Speaker 1>not again, we're not talking about You look at the

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<v Speaker 1>face and you see three distinct eyeballs. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the certain lower vertebrates such as fish and lizards, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll actually see this kind of you could almost mistake

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<v Speaker 1>it for some sort of like gray pimple. Uh, this

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<v Speaker 1>this kind of gray little dot, gray little slit um

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<v Speaker 1>around the forehead, and that is this parietal i um.

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<v Speaker 1>They typically, like I said, it's a gray oval and

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<v Speaker 1>the animals don't actually see out of this structure like

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<v Speaker 1>they can't they can't look out of it like they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're not right then, since data is not going in

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<v Speaker 1>it and then forming a picture, that's what the other

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<v Speaker 1>eyes are doing. This either throattle I is more. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's photosensitive and it does influence circadian rhythm, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's unable to capture images. And it's believed that it's

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<v Speaker 1>sense it's light and regulates body temperature and hormonal balance.

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<v Speaker 1>So in a way you can think of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll discuss this a little more here. It is an

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<v Speaker 1>eye that sees only one thing, and it sees what

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<v Speaker 1>time it is. It sees where are if you can

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<v Speaker 1>even apply a concept like time to to an animal,

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<v Speaker 1>but it can see where it is in the cycle

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<v Speaker 1>of night and day. Yeah, And what I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>really cool about it is that it does have this

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<v Speaker 1>sense of passing of time through its pridal eye and

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<v Speaker 1>these two kinds of neurons, So unlike the human eye,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes use of five different kinds of neurons called

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<v Speaker 1>photoreceptors to analyze light. The parietal eye has only two,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, but these two neurons help frogs, fish

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<v Speaker 1>and lizards figure out what time it is. Um. This

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<v Speaker 1>is from Seed Magazining the article The secrets in the

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<v Speaker 1>third eye. The comparison of the color signals now begin

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<v Speaker 1>at the photoreceptor rather than in the retinal neurons as

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<v Speaker 1>in the regular human eye. So when this happens, the

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<v Speaker 1>photoreceptors in the parietal I are able to give information

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<v Speaker 1>about the passage of time because, and this is key,

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<v Speaker 1>the color spectrum changes over time during the day, So

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<v Speaker 1>the signal that comes out of the photoreceptor is sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a re eat out of what time it is,

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<v Speaker 1>which very cool. I mean, this is sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>superpower that we don't possess, even if we do have

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<v Speaker 1>pocket watches. Pocket watches when it's like the nineteenth century. Now, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this parridal eyes often retained in burrowing lizards. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the idea here is that these are animals that

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<v Speaker 1>are occasionally exposed to light, and the thridle eyes more

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<v Speaker 1>suitable photo receptor for a burrower. Right, And um, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I think is really cool about these parle eyes

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<v Speaker 1>is that they do differ. In a paper by Gundy

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<v Speaker 1>and Works entitled Parietal Eye Penny on Morphology and Lizards

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<v Speaker 1>and It's physiological implications. Uh, they looked at seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>species of lizards in their parietal eyes and they found

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<v Speaker 1>that there were seven different morphological types. Um. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>these types were the lateral parietal eye, the borrowed die

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<v Speaker 1>eye as you mentioned, and this is my favorite, a

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<v Speaker 1>finger like projection that extends towards the parietal eye, so

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<v Speaker 1>from inside the head. Yeah. Yeah, and this actually allows

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<v Speaker 1>for the maximum absorption of light this sort of configuration. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like the prietal eye and the pineal gland

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<v Speaker 1>sort of reaching to touch each other, like uh, like

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<v Speaker 1>Adam and and uh and God on the Sistine Chapel. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope someone, I really hopes someone paints that would

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<v Speaker 1>surely that's on the side of a van somewhere or

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Gray has done it. This seems like a great

0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Alex Gray topic right there. There's a lot of really

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<v Speaker 1>cool study, especially in lizards are a great way to

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<v Speaker 1>study the pridal eye, and they found a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>interesting stuff about the the evolution of of the parietal

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<v Speaker 1>eye and the evolutionary conjunction between invertebrate and vertebrate ways

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<v Speaker 1>of seeing color uh prinstance, John Hopkins University study found

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<v Speaker 1>two pigments in the pridal eye of the side blotched lizard,

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<v Speaker 1>two different structures of protein communication. One of these is

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<v Speaker 1>a pigment communicated with transducent like protein called gustusin is

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<v Speaker 1>vertebrates us and other is a pigment that uses GO protein.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an invertebrate way of of seeing. So the theory

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<v Speaker 1>here is that early on this go protein this was

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<v Speaker 1>the norm, and then his evolution progresses transucent pathway developed,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as a and as it progresses even further,

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<v Speaker 1>you move up to the lateral eyes, which are actually

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<v Speaker 1>very highly specialized structures that are allow us to have

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<v Speaker 1>depth reception, and then the go pathway is dropped and

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<v Speaker 1>we retain only the transucent pathway. So again we see

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<v Speaker 1>in the parridal eye an ancient form of seeing, an

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<v Speaker 1>ancient way of just barely peeking out from the darkness

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<v Speaker 1>of consciousness into the light of the world. That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well all right, so we uh, we couldn't tidy up

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of this podcast without making a mention of hallucinogens, right,

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>because if they're really heavy into them as a topic lately. Um, So,

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<v Speaker 1>what do hallucinogens have to do with the pineal gland

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<v Speaker 1>in the third eye other than people feeling like they

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<v Speaker 1>have tapped into them when they're on hallucinogens. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>have a guy by the name of Rick Strassman in

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<v Speaker 1>d who researched the hypothetical and as yet unproven connection

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<v Speaker 1>between the pineal gland and the production of d MT. UH.

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<v Speaker 1>First he was very interested in the pineal gland, then

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<v Speaker 1>he got very interested in d MT. He actually performed

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<v Speaker 1>the first new human studies with psychedelic drugs in the

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<v Speaker 1>US and over twenty years back in between nine five

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>when he was he does about sixty volunteers with d MT.

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<v Speaker 1>Eventually ended up canceling the research because he grew too

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about the part of the negative effects that some

0:27:32.840 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 1>of these individuals were having on these trips, seeing some

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:42.119
<v Speaker 1>frightening things, uh, lizardman, godlike beings freaking out as they

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:44.600
<v Speaker 1>dissolve into light. That kind of thing which, as we

0:27:44.680 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>discussed in our Psychedelic episodes, that can certainly happen, but

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>he he did formulate a number of just kind of

0:27:51.280 --> 0:27:55.399
<v Speaker 1>really out their ideas. I mean from the side you

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you you read what the man has written, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not a complete lune or anything. I don't want to

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.120
<v Speaker 1>paint him like at but he has some very far

0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>reaching ideas about what the pineal gland might consists of

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.399
<v Speaker 1>and what it's doing, and and he gets into some

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>some really interesting territory where he's entertaining the notion that

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>d MT actually affects the brain's ability to receive information,

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>not just interpret and generate it, and that it can

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:24.000
<v Speaker 1>potentially allow us to perceive dark matter and parallel universes.

0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:29.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's, uh, it's all very theoretical. Um, you know,

0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>don't take that to the bank. But but I do

0:28:32.040 --> 0:28:34.600
<v Speaker 1>find it really really interesting. It is interesting. I mean,

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.480
<v Speaker 1>it's certainly in an extrapolation on what Nobel laureate Julius

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 1>axel Rod found is that the brain does have naturally

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>occurring trace amounts um of d m T in the brain.

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<v Speaker 1>And then some people have taken this to say the

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<v Speaker 1>peneal brain is is um where it's made, and perhaps

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:59.080
<v Speaker 1>there's some sort of um connection connection between psychosis and

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:04.000
<v Speaker 1>even hallucine egens are I should say hallucinations. But again,

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a lot of this is all unproven at this point.

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>We just all we know for sure is trace amounts

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that are naturally occurring in the brain of d M

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>t U d MT being this hallucinogen substance. Yeah, to

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<v Speaker 1>what extent are we coming back around to the same

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 1>mistake of attributing spiritual importance to this little nut in

0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the brain, or are we coming around to some truth

0:29:28.120 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>about it that it is? I mean, obviously it has

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>something that it has. It has stuff to do with

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the way that we sense and understand the world, But

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to what degree so exactly? Yeah, you know, we we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't talk about the third eye is being a Freemason symbol.

0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh of course, yes, the what the the name for

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>it at the top of the dollar the triangle with

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the eye. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's the third Eye.

0:29:52.480 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 1>But whatever we've we've seen that in It's in the

0:29:54.720 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>US Great Seal on the dollar bill. And of course

0:29:57.680 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of conspiracy theorists who will point that

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<v Speaker 1>Hollerabilee and say that you know, that's that's that's the

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>work of Freemasons. Um. But from what I understand, Ben Franklin,

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>who was the only Freemason who worked on the currency

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:13.560
<v Speaker 1>at that time, proposed a design and it did not

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<v Speaker 1>have that third eye in it. So also, um, that

0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>dollar bill third eye symbol was in use I think,

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<v Speaker 1>uh far, maybe like a decade or more before the

0:30:27.160 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>Freemason's even began to use it. The eye of providence,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Yeah, yeah, And actually, if you want to

0:30:32.320 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>know more about that, you should totally check out stuff

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't want you to know because they do some

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>deep dives into that territory. And I really need to

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.400
<v Speaker 1>look it up because I was not familiar with the

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>term I have providence to like, just a couple of

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, I was in yoga, and this is gonna

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>sound hippie dippy, but during Shavasna, I saw this, uh

0:30:49.880 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that's when you're in rest. Yeah, I saw this, this triangle,

0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.280
<v Speaker 1>like a pulsating triangle. It seemed like it might be

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>God or something, you know, Like that was the kind

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 1>of vibe I was getting off of it. So afterwards, like, hi,

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.240
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there are any ideas out there of

0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>like that interpret God or a divine being as like

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a like a triangle, you know, like in a very

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 1>geometric like stripped down since and that was the closest

0:31:14.320 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 1>thing to find its like Shiva's that call. Yeah, so

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, only the yogi you're gonna laugh at.

0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Oh and I should also mention that one of the

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>things that got me into this particular podcast is I

0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>was thinking back to the old horror movie Um from

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Beyond was based on a Lovecraft story, and that has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to do with monsters with pineal glands that

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 1>end up poking out of their head and squirming around

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>like worms. And it's a lot of fun. Do you

0:31:38.360 --> 0:31:40.880
<v Speaker 1>have a great bog post on that, Yeah, yeah, you

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>can check it out. I do the Monster of the

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Week deal when I have one a half time. All right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of having time for things, let's call the robot

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<v Speaker 1>over and do like a quick listener mail here. All right, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Julian Robert, this is from Valerie. I wanted to tell

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you how much I enjoyed your shows on mazes and labyrinths.

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:02.959
<v Speaker 1>Learning the rual difference between the definitions versus the use

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:04.719
<v Speaker 1>of the words was very interesting. I'm a big fan

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 1>of etymology and love love it when it makes its

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<v Speaker 1>way into podcast. I'm equally terrified and enamored by mazes.

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:13.479
<v Speaker 1>I have a better understanding of my mixed feelings. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>During the Labyrinth podcast, you mentioned the the Hopie Native

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>American tribe. I believe the name is pronounced Hopie, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think, guess maybe I said Hoppy or something I

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:26.280
<v Speaker 1>think I did well, or I imagine we both did.

0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna at the same time. Yes, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>share the blame. Um, And she says, says Hopie like

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<v Speaker 1>the garden tool and the sling for urine. Just noticed

0:32:34.720 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>it and thought you might want to note. I have

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<v Speaker 1>very much enjoyed your podcast of late. I've been trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do more wonder woman poses when I am not

0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>feeling tiptop about myself. I haven't noticed if it works

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:46.360
<v Speaker 1>just yet, but maybe I will end up with a

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 1>bit better posture valory. Alright, cool, And she's referring again

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to the podcast that we did about life hacks and

0:32:53.360 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>how we can game your biochemistry through assuming certain postures. Yeah, walks, labyrinths.

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<v Speaker 1>Get yourself in the right power pose and it can

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>have a phenomenal effect on your life. All right, Well, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all we're gonna do for this episode. If you

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<v Speaker 1>would like to write an if you have any anything

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<v Speaker 1>to share about the pineal gland, about the privle eye,

0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.320
<v Speaker 1>about the third eye, uh in pine nuts, stop pine

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<v Speaker 1>nuts in the munching of them, let us know we'd

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