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Wherever you 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: may be and however you may be listening, Thanks for 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: making us part of your day. So it was funny. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: I was on Seattle radio this morning and they asked me, 14 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: what's your trust level for Sam Darnold, And it's like, well, 15 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: he won in Carolina, didn't start a lot, but he 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: had a winning record, and you wont in Minnesota and 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: you want in Seattle and nobody works with the Jets. 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: He's not going to get shorter, less athletic, less committed, 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: less focused against the forty nine ers. I've always been 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: a Sam fan. It's never wavered. I thought he was 21 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: too talented, too good of an arm two athletic, too strong, 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: too committed, too coachable, not to be successful at some level. 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: Twenty eight and six the last two years, which is 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: the best record in football. But the thing is he 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: had really you know, first impressions are powerful. Kevin Hart 26 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: apparently bombed early in his career and was booed off 27 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: the stage. Nobody saw it, right, Nobody watched it. Sam 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Darnold was against Belichick Sunday night football, Monday night football, 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: most popular sport in the country, playing in New York. 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: We all saw it. But I mean, that's the reality 31 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: nobody remembers because the first impressions with Jordan were so great. 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: Nobody remembers the Wizard years, the first impressions with Aaron Rodgers, 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: who sat for three years, nobody remembers. Nobody thinks about 34 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the fact that in his last thirty three games he's 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: fifteen and eighteen, he said like a one three hundred 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: yard game, no playoff wins in five or six year. 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: Because there's such strong identification of those early great years 38 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: that it washes over everything. It's like an actor. If 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: you're good, you go good early. Nobody cares about late. 40 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: Bill Murray has had so many hits early. Nobody cares 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: what he's doing now, right, doesn't matter. But with Sam 42 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: it's the opposite. But in the last two years he's 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: been better than mahomes He's won more games, he's got 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: more passing yards, his completion percentage is higher, he's got 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: a better record, he's got more touchdowns. Last two years, 46 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: he's better than Patrick Mahomes. So and that you know. So, 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: do I doubt Sam Darnold, No, I don't. Does Sam 48 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: sometimes play a little frenetic under pressure. Absolutely, But the 49 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: Niners don't have a Bosa And if he does face 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: the Texans, which could speed him up, you know it 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: would be in the Super Bowl. So the Chris Shula 52 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: Rams defense has given him real trouble. But remember Sam's 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: twenty eight years old. He is younger than Lamar Jackson. 54 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: And you think brought perty as a kid, and Sam's 55 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: a veteran. Purty's twenty six. Sam's twenty eight. He's just 56 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: now moving in to his prime years. He probably moved 57 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: into his prime last year. Quarterback primes about seven years, 58 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: probably about twenty seven ish. I mean, really, when the 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: light goes on twenty six, twenty seven ish to thirty 60 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: three ish, so I always thought he'd be really good. 61 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: Here's the amazing thing about Sam back to back first 62 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: quarterback ever ever all time, back to back seasons with 63 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: fourteen wins and four thousand yards. It's even more impressive. 64 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: He did it with two different teams. Now Mahomes has 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: done it, but not in back to back years. Fourteen 66 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: wins and four thousand yards. It's just incredibly rare. Well, 67 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: he had this and he had that. Seattle's the second 68 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: youngest team in the league. Minnesota is good. They don't 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: have the Eagles roster. So he's a very unique talent. 70 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 1: But in big games like this one, you face better coaching. 71 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: And Tom Brady talked about that last hour. 72 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 3: When you get to these big moments in big games, 73 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 3: whether that's you know, certainly playoffs or some of these 74 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: games have happened at the end of the year, determined 75 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: whether going to get in or not. The margin of 76 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: air when you play good teams is just very small. 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: So that's where the fundamentals come into play. You have to, 78 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 3: you know, in order to throw the ball accurate, okay, 79 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: and if you throw it accurately, make the decisions. 80 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: You're not going to throw a lot of interceptions. 81 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 5: It's over time. 82 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 3: You need to refine your techniques so that when you 83 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 3: get these big moments, you're as accurate as you can 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: possibly be because you have the least margin of air. 85 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: So Robert Salah is a great coordinator. Sam's problems have 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: usually been and he doesn't have a great O line 87 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: the left side of it Crossabel's pretty good center overs okay, 88 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: not great, Okay, When you can rush Sam, he gets frenetic, 89 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: he gets into He's like a shooter that gets into 90 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: a bad streak, takes bad shots and misses them badly. 91 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: He can get into that. But I'll say this Stafford 92 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: seven picks and seven games frog Perty's had bad picks 93 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: his whole career. But I would say Stafford, Purty and 94 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: Donald also have a gift, which is a short memory. 95 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: It doesn't affect their next throw. So I mean, if 96 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: you go to look at the last two years for Sam, 97 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: Donald Colin, do you trust them against San Francisco. He's 98 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: not getting shorter, slower, less of an arm less dynamic. 99 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean he is top three and virtually everything over 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: the last couple of years. So I mean he was 101 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: a successful at USC winning record. Carolina great Minnesota Great Seahawks. Yeah, 102 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: it was a mess for the Jets, but he was 103 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: twenty years old. When Dante Moore elected to go back 104 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: to Oregon yesterday and not the NFL, worry would have 105 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: gone to the Jets. One of the first things you 106 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: thought about, and I thought about, was, oh, it'll be 107 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: like Sam Darnold. He's a West Coast quarterback with a 108 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: really good team. He's really, really talented, but he's really 109 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: young going to New York. Sam Darnald showed up in 110 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: New York at twenty. Dante Moore would show up in 111 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: New York at twenty. And that's that's why I kept 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: when I looked at Dante Moore and I don't know 113 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: his comp with Donald who's the better prospect. I have 114 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: no idea. They're both very good, but they're not good 115 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: enough to overcome the Jets. Again, it'd be different if 116 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: the Jets hired John Harbaugh and instead of the Giant, 117 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: I'd feel different. I mean, Mike Ravel and Gerrod Mayo 118 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: and the Patriots are a different team, all right. And 119 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: with that, Joel Klatt, who watched plenty of Sam Dardal 120 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: believing with that USC is now joining US, so a 121 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: lot of people are saying this, and I don't think 122 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: they're wrong. Indiana is a eight point favorite over Miami. 123 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: I do think it's going to be in the trenches. 124 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: Miami can disrupt some of the offensive flow for Indiana. 125 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a really good game. 126 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: People have said, I mean that, does Indiana have a weakness? 127 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: Can you identify anything about Indiana where you're like, well, 128 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: they're not great here. I don't see anything they're really 129 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: bad at. But is there a way to attack them 130 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: or a way to slow down the offense where they're 131 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: not as efficient? 132 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a great question and premise. I think in 133 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 6: the games where let's just start with the games where 134 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 6: they were close, because I mean, obviously they're undefeat they're. 135 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Beating the teams badly. 136 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 6: Penn State was a close game, Iowa was a close game, 137 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 6: Oregon was a decently close game, and then Ohio State 138 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 6: in the Big Ten championship game. The one through line 139 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 6: to some of those matchups, Colin was the ability maybe 140 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 6: not to stop completely their running game, but certainly control 141 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 6: their running game. Yeah, because I think the secret sauce 142 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 6: to Indiana is that even though they have Mendoza, who's 143 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 6: going to be the first pick and is playing at 144 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 6: as high a level as we've seen since maybe Mac 145 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 6: Jones and Joe Burrow. At this stage of the season. 146 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 6: He's playing at such a high level. There's still a 147 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 6: run first offense. In fact, if you look at their 148 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 6: play selection now, granted they've had the lead and they're 149 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 6: going to run clock, but Colin, they've run the ball 150 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 6: ninety times to only thirty six passes in their two 151 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 6: playoff games. Wow, that's a staggering percentage, you know. And 152 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 6: so you have to start with the premise that you 153 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 6: can't let them control the game on the ground. The 154 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 6: thing that they do best better than anybody else in 155 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 6: college football is get themselves into manageable third down situations. 156 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 6: It's what makes them the number one third down offense 157 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 6: in America. And it's the premise of being on schedule, 158 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 6: on schedule, on first down, on second down, and it 159 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 6: starts with their ability to run the football. So that's 160 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: why I would start to try to hurt them. You 161 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 6: also ask like, well, where where aren't they good? To 162 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 6: be honest, I can't find it. They're good on special teams, 163 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 6: they tackle, well, let's just put it to you this way. 164 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 6: If you're going to measure a team's soundness, how well 165 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 6: they're coach, you would measure things like mistackles, penalties, turnovers, 166 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 6: field position, right, all these things that you feel like 167 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 6: you can control. They're one of the best teams in 168 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 6: the country in every one of those categories. And so 169 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 6: it really is wild and I think Miami's going to 170 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 6: have to play nearly flawless, certainly mistake free in order 171 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 6: to win this game. 172 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 5: Yeah. 173 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: I remember watching the Penn State game and I had 174 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: missed the first quarter of it, and I started watching 175 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: and I'm making lunch, and all of a sudden, I'm 176 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: watching Penn State with a backup quarterback march up and 177 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: down the field against Indiana. I'm like, oh my god, 178 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: we got an upset here. What is happening? And that's 179 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: one of the only times all year where I felt 180 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: Indiana was reeling a little bit. It was like they 181 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,319 Speaker 1: were on their heels a little bit, and Penn State 182 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: was just moving at eight yard chunk, eight yard, six 183 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: yard eight yard. So, I mean their. 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 6: Kids and Penn State ran it really well that day, yep, 185 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 6: you know, And so I think you've got to be 186 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,199 Speaker 6: which listen that leans into Miami. Mark Fletcher has been 187 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 6: outstanding during the course of this playoff. I think he's 188 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 6: averaging I want to say what I'm happened right here, 189 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 6: one hundred and thirty six per game on the ground. 190 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 6: I mean, like he's he's been outstanding for them, and 191 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 6: it's allowed Beck to play like Mendoza in third and manageable, 192 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 6: like Beck hasn't had to be in a ton of 193 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 6: obvious down situations and to the benefit of that team. 194 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 6: And if they can do that against Miami, then you 195 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 6: know they'll have a chance. But the play that you're 196 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 6: showing right now, if you're watching on FS one, it 197 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 6: was it was the long play. They don't throw the 198 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 6: ball down the field. Their big plays are generally catch 199 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 6: and run, like Malachai Toni at the line of scrimmage. Yeah, 200 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 6: he's you know, Beck is one for eleven in the 201 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 6: playoff on balls that are thrown twenty or more yards 202 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 6: down the field. So this is going to be at 203 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 6: or near the line of scrimmage. This is the type 204 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 6: of game that it's going to be for them. 205 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the SEC was two and eight against non conference 206 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: opponents in the balls in college football, this year. This 207 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: week I offered something, I put it on the screen. 208 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: I called it best ten in the next ten. I said, 209 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: all things considered, nil, Transfer Portal three Texas schools, Texas 210 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: Texas and Texas Tech will be in the ten. Phil 211 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: Knight Oregon, Signetti, Mark Cuban, Indiana, Michigan, Notre Dame because 212 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: of endowments. Ohio State's totally committed. Then I said ten's 213 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: not Georgia. I said ten's usc because I just watched 214 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: them spend thirty million bucks to buy the number one 215 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: recruiting class. So okay, but here's my take on Georgia. 216 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: So clearly Alabama is not what they were three years ago. 217 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: I think that's clear. 218 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 219 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: Josh Pate told me this yesterday. He says people look 220 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: at Georgia and think, oh, they get that Coca Cola 221 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: money in that Delta Airline money. Just no, they don't. 222 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: Atlanta's never embraced it. The big money in Atlanta does 223 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: not give to Georgia. So I guess my takeaway is 224 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: we have a chance for a third straight Big ten 225 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: team to win a Natty, not even playing an SEC team. 226 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: My question, if you look at the top eight quarterbacks 227 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: in the country. Next year you can argue six are 228 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: in the Big ten. Is it possible the gap is widening, 229 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: not shrinking, I think if you so. 230 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 6: I did this on my show as well, talked about 231 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 6: the exact same thing in a little different way, you know, 232 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 6: in terms of this idea of conference supremacy. Let me 233 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 6: start with the premise that I think it's bad for 234 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 6: college football that we constantly have this conversation. 235 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: I really do. I think that it is. 236 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 6: It is a narrative that needs to die because part 237 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 6: of the problem in college football column from an overarching perspective, 238 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 6: is that all the decisions are made in silos and 239 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 6: everyone's just making decisions that benefit them. There's never been 240 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 6: a time in college football where the powers that be, 241 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 6: whether it's conference commissioners and or presidents, have come together 242 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 6: and made a decision that's better for the whole like 243 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 6: the NFL owners did years and years and years ago. 244 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 6: And we obviously see the product that we have on 245 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 6: the field with the National Football League. So when we 246 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 6: when when we continually argue about the silos and which 247 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 6: one is better, then the whole motivation of the people 248 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 6: within those organizations is to be considered the better silo. 249 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 6: So as long as we continue to breathe life into 250 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 6: the narrative of like which conference is better, which conference 251 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 6: is better, then we're going to continue to get decisions 252 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 6: in college football that that fracture us and make us 253 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 6: more fragmented. 254 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: So that's that's just like an overarching argument. 255 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that this isn't a fascinating discussion 256 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 6: and we shouldn't maybe have this discussion. 257 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I am, but I. 258 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 6: Would tell you this, if you look at the last 259 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 6: three years, an SEC team has not competed for a 260 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 6: national championship in now three straight years. Georgia hasn't even 261 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 6: been in the in the semi finals in three straight years. 262 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 6: Maybe to your point, although USC is not, you know, 263 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 6: playing at the top into college football, not even near 264 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 6: it quite frankly right now, zero to four, that's the 265 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 6: SEC record against the Big Ten in the last two 266 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 6: years in the playoff when it matters most. So you 267 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,239 Speaker 6: can't argue like, oh, it's just bowl games. These are blowouts, 268 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 6: blowout and some blowouts. That's exactly right if you look 269 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 6: at the draft, And that was kind of the last 270 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 6: argument of the folks that really hang on to this 271 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 6: SEC deal is that the draft was all filled with 272 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 6: SEC players. Yes, there's a lot of SEC players. That's 273 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 6: that margin is basically gone. Now you look at the 274 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 6: last couple of drafts and you know the players are 275 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 6: spread out. And then I would offer this as my 276 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 6: last kind of thought on this exact topic. Just a question, 277 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 6: and let me just pose it. Was it really an 278 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 6: entire conference that dominated college football? Or was it the 279 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 6: greatest singular coach that we've ever seen in the history 280 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 6: of college football? Was it the SEC? Or was it 281 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 6: Alabama that owned college football? Now, granted there's a few 282 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 6: other years. Yeah, LSU was phenomenal in nineteen and Georgia 283 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 6: rose up in twenty one and twenty two, and yes, 284 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 6: you know cam Newton rose. There are individual instances, just 285 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 6: like we have littered throughout college football and every other conference, 286 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 6: where a team rises and falls and rises and falls. 287 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 6: But the narrative of the SEC really was on the 288 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 6: coattails of Nick Saban in Alabama. Well, now that they 289 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 6: don't have that, you know, maybe it's over. But my 290 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 6: eyes don't fool me. 291 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: Last year Ohio State humiliated SEC teams physically at the 292 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: end of the year. Yes, Indiana is humiliating SEC teams. 293 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: My eyes aren't deceiving me. The SEC is not as fast, 294 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: it's not intimidating. 295 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 6: It's just a we'll spread out. Well, it's just spread out. 296 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 6: And you know those that are really I mean, and 297 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 6: you and I have said this. You know, for years 298 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 6: the thought was that the SEC was under the table. 299 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 6: And I don't know how many programs were or not. 300 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 6: I know that there were some, and it wasn't exclusively 301 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 6: in the SEC. But there is a thought within coaching circles. 302 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 6: I'm not talking about fans or media, within coaching circles. 303 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 6: And I've had these conversations or coaches that are not 304 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 6: in the SEC and have not been in the SEC 305 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 6: look at me and they say, well, we're finally all 306 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 6: paying players a little different now, And that's you know, 307 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 6: that's that's a real thing. 308 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: Okay. So I think we both know Dante Moore going 309 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: to college is good for Dante, good for Oregon, good 310 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: for everybody. Tye Simpson said, I'm going pro and he 311 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: would have made a lot of money in college. How 312 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: do you view I mean, ty Simpson to me, he's 313 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: got an NFL arm, no question. He doesn't move. I 314 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: don't think he's Mendoz as a prospect size. I don't 315 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: think he's Dante more the move, or maybe I think 316 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: tis an NFL first second round prospect. That's what it 317 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: looks like to me. Do you view him? How do 318 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: you view him? 319 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 5: So? 320 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 6: I think he's a really talented thrower of the football. 321 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 6: He makes some big boy throws, he really does, and 322 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 6: really good arm. Now he's not a big guy. He's 323 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 6: not a big guy by any stretch of the imagination. 324 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 6: And when you're not big, I get a bit worried 325 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 6: about your ability to stay healthy unless you can move, 326 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 6: you know. So if you bring up like well, Joel, 327 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 6: there's a lot of small quarterbacks. Yeah, okay, Kyler as 328 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 6: quick as a hiccup, you know, and he's still banged up, 329 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 6: and yet he's that elusive. 330 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: Bryce Young has some elusiveness. 331 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 6: Russell Wilson had a ton of elusiveness in particular at 332 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 6: the peak of his career. You know, Baker is elusive. 333 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 6: He's not a huge guy, and Simpson doesn't really have that. 334 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 6: So I'm a bit nervous about his size. But when 335 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 6: it comes to just his pure ability to read the defense, 336 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 6: stand in there and make big throws, he has that ability, 337 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 6: there's no doubt. And as it always comes down to 338 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 6: unless you're a generational talent, which I don't know if 339 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 6: ty is, is that it matters where you go. And 340 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 6: so now it's all about fit yep coach city GM owner. 341 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 6: That's his entire NFL career, at least early at his 342 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 6: first location is going to be determined about in terms 343 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 6: of where he best fits and if he gets into 344 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 6: that spot. 345 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 1: All right, Indiana twenty seven Miami seventeen. That's what it 346 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: feels like to me. Indiana cannot run the ball consistently, 347 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: but in the end, I think they're a cleaner team. 348 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: They make fewer mistakes, fewer penalties, fewer drops, And I 349 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: think Miami can be harder to coach because I think 350 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: they have so much length and speed and explosiveness and Mario. 351 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: To beat Indiana needs to be aggressive. They need to 352 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: make a player two like over the top, play defensively 353 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 1: block a kick. So my take is the cleaner team 354 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 1: will win, but it won't look like most Indiana wins. 355 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: It's not going to be Indiana, Illinois, Indiana, Alabama, Indiana, 356 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: Oregon twice. I think I think it's a lot of trenches, 357 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: a lot of mid thirty around the thirty yard line stuff. 358 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: My take yours. 359 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 6: I think I'm actually absolutely in line with this. I 360 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 6: think that it's going to be a frustrating game for 361 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 6: Indiana as much as they get frustrated because I think 362 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 6: that they're final. Listen, they didn't lose their mind against 363 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 6: Ohio State in a low scoring affair that was a 364 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 6: difficult game, and Penn State the same, Iowa is the same. 365 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 6: But I do think it's going to be a style 366 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,959 Speaker 6: of game like that, where it's close and then it 367 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 6: becomes about mistakes in which team is losing the game 368 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 6: and not winning game. And there's one thing I know 369 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 6: about Indiana and that is they do not make mistakes. 370 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 6: And I can't say the same about Miami. So I'm 371 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 6: going to go the same direction. I think I had 372 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 6: something along the lines of like thirty five twenty four. 373 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 6: You know, Indiana scores late and kind of takes a 374 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 6: two possession lead, and I would expect the way Indiana 375 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 6: plays their turnover margin, I think beck is going to 376 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 6: make a mistake in this game, and I think that's 377 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 6: going to ultimately be the difference. 378 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: Joe Klatt wait to watch it. Say what you want 379 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: about Carson Beck third Natties and so he's got you're 380 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be Jimmy. I mean he's experienced. Yeah, I've 381 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: been in a ton of these games. Can't wait. Last 382 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: team to go sixteen and oh or go undefeated in 383 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: college football? I think it was sixteen and oh. I 384 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: looked it up. I hadn't heard of a lot of 385 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: their players. Was the Yale in the eighteen hundreds? 386 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 6: Okay, so maybe Yale to it. I don't think modern 387 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 6: college football has never happened. We've had a couple of 388 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 6: these fifteen and oh, obviously in recent vintage, but man 389 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 6: to do it in this era of more parody, and 390 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 6: to do it at Indiana, they were the losingest program 391 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 6: in history to start the year, and it's wild. 392 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: It blows my mind. It's unbelievable. Joe Klack, great stuff, 393 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: my man, Thanks Bud, have a good day you too. Yeah, 394 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: it's some eighteen hundred Yale team apparently was just knocking 395 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: the socks off people between the drama club and their 396 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: football team. Back then, everybody was afraid of Yale lit 397 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: great stuff. Oh did they The staff just told me this. 398 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: They invented the forward pass Yale did. I don't know. 399 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: I just you know, you live and learn. I drove 400 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: by what's that? What's that bowl that Harvard and Yale 401 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: played at. I drove by that a few times. It's 402 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: like legendary. It's this legendary field they play at. And uh, 403 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: sixteen and oh just I mean again, it's not sixteen 404 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: and oh in the Mountain West. It's sixteen and oh 405 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: in the Big ten in the playoff. 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I like Indiana, but I think Miami 425 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: is a live dog physically, can impose their will, may 426 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: be able to run the football a little and slow 427 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: down Indiana's run game, which slows down their play action 428 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: passing game. Here's j Mack with the news. Heard on 429 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: the news. 430 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 431 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 8: All right, let's go to that Bears Rams game. 432 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 9: Bears are going to have to win on the ground, Colin, 433 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 9: and they haven't really done that last two games. Just 434 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 9: a bucks sixty rushing the football. Ben Johnson says, that's 435 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 9: got to change. 436 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 4: It feels like it's dipped a little bit. Not something that. 437 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 10: We certainly want, certainly late in the season, we wanted 438 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 10: that to pick up playoffs weather games like this, you 439 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 10: certainly want to be able to lean on your run game. 440 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 4: So those are some elements we're looking at. 441 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 10: What can we do to help ignite that is both 442 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 10: efficient runs to stay on track and ahead of the chains, 443 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 10: and also explosive runs as well. 444 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: Where can we find a few of those? 445 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, their best BET's going to be to keep the 446 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 9: Rams offense off the field. That's going to be a 447 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 9: lot of mono guy Swift tall. 448 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 8: Order for the Bears. 449 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: Cole Comet, Yeah, it's going to be. 450 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 8: Cold and down your left tackle as well. 451 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I worry about losing Edwards. Yep, it's I mean, 452 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: you saw Jordan Love in that first half is kind 453 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: of going up and down the field. I mean, and 454 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: they were fooling Chicago tackling wasn't great. It was. It 455 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: was a pretty ugly first half. So I mean, that's 456 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: what the Rams are looking at. Can they manipulate veteran 457 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: quarterback there? It's not a great defense to begin with. 458 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: When you lose one of your playmakers. It's rough. 459 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just I know people don't want to hear it. 460 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 9: In Chicago, Collin they got lucky. I mean, let they 461 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 9: there's no way around it. It was one of the 462 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 9: biggest comebacks in the fourth quarter and playoff history. You 463 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 9: said the Packers kind of moved the ball. Their first 464 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 9: three drives were touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. 465 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 8: There's like, no, they couldn't do anything. 466 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 9: And the Rams have a better offense than the Packers 467 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 9: with a better head coach. So it's just a tough 468 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 9: I'm surprised this is sitting on three and a half. 469 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 9: I was I was praying for a three. That's when 470 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 9: you empty the bank account on the Rams. But I 471 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 9: don't know if the Bears pull this off. I don't 472 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 9: even know what to say at this, but you run 473 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 9: out of adjectives for Ben Johnson and these guys. 474 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 8: All right, let's move on to D. 475 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 9: Forty nine Ers the game Brady talked about earlier forty 476 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 9: nine or Seattle very tall order for San Franz. They 477 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 9: are seven point underdogs, even though the teams split the 478 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 9: season series. Brock perty he knows about the injuries. He says, 479 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 9: I'm not worried. 480 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 11: At the end of the day. For us, it's like, 481 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 11: you know, we just focus on ourselves, man, And we 482 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 11: watched the film against Philly and and all of us 483 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 11: were all so eager to get better from that and 484 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 11: then obviously to you know, we're in the playoffs now, 485 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 11: so it's you know, we stay We stayed alive and 486 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 11: we're alive right now. So for us, how can we 487 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 11: just go and find a way and you know, play 488 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 11: together and play our standard of ball as the forty 489 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 11: nine ers. 490 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: So that's how we look at it. 491 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 9: Good launch on the spot here, Colin better head coach 492 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 9: in this game? 493 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: Well they're both great. 494 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 8: It's just fine. You could just could be truthful. 495 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: One's better offensively, one's better defensively. Why does it always 496 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: have to be better? 497 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 9: Well, I'm trying to get to uh. I was giving 498 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 9: you a softball, Shanahan. Obviously nothing against the other guy. 499 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 9: Who's the better quarterback in this game? 500 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: Who's more talented? Sam Darnold? 501 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 8: Is that now what I asked, sir? 502 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: I said last two years, Sam Darnold? I mean wins yards, completions, touchdowns, 503 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: and healthy, doesn't get banged up. 504 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 9: Does it feel like this is house money for Brock perty? No, 505 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 9: what do you mean you wanted in Philadelphia? Threw two 506 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 9: picks and they still won the game with a game 507 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 9: winning drive by Perty. 508 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I think. 509 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: Getting I think this game feels thirteen to ten, middle 510 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 1: of the third. I think Seattle pulls away late. I 511 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: think it's a very close game. Thirteen to ten could 512 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: be San Francisco leading middle of the third. I think 513 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: Seattle will be a little conservative, deeper roster at home favored. 514 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: Let's not put ourselves in the crosshairs of trouble. I 515 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: think San Francisco will play inspired. Nobody says they can win. 516 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: They're a live dog, They've got a great coach. San Francisco, 517 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: to me, is going to lead this game at some point, 518 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: and it could be middle of the third. But I 519 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: do think at home Seattle's defense, brock perties On a 520 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: Haitian when rushed, can make a mistake, and that Witherspoon, 521 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: I mean that that Seattle defensive front is just It's 522 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: like Tom Brady said, dude, They're just they just rotate guys. 523 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: It's just I mean, they got six guys that are 524 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: in and out. They're fresh laid into games. I think 525 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: defensive lines decide games like this. Speeding up quarterback Darnold's 526 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 1: clearly gonna have more time to throw than brock Purty 527 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: over the course of three and a half hours, I 528 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: don't think we could deny that that brock Perty, he'll 529 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: probably you He'll probably a little more rushed on average 530 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: over the course of a game that tends to be 531 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: an advantage for the quarterback that's not rushed. 532 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 9: I know Seattle boxed him in San Fraan a couple 533 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 9: of weeks ago. But if McCaffrey doesn't drop the inner, 534 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 9: the pass inside the five falls in the hands of 535 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 9: the Seattle guy, it's a one score game and where 536 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,879 Speaker 9: it's interesting, right, but he does and now it's like, oh, 537 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 9: Seattle killed him. The NFL is just the margins are 538 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 9: so thin. Let's go to the final story, and that 539 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 9: is Mike Vrabel and the New England Patriots. Boy, that 540 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 9: game against the Texas, I'm excited for this. Look at 541 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 9: that line Colin three and a half point favorites. Wow, 542 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 9: I'm stunned, especially after what the Texans did to Aaron 543 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 9: Rodgers and they sent Mike Tomlin into retirement. Uh, here's 544 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 9: Rabel talking about the Houston defense, which is nasty this face. 545 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, of course, you know. 546 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 12: I mean they have great talent, great scheme, They play 547 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 12: hard and respect how hard they play, and they're just 548 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 12: not only talented, but they have a play demeanor that 549 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 12: I can appreciate. 550 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 5: There's talent, length, you know, effort. 551 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 12: They don't if they get blocked, they don't stay blocked long. 552 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 5: They play hard against the run. 553 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 12: It's not just if you run the ball that they're 554 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 12: they're taking plays off. 555 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, two really good. Uh you know book ends. 556 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like what he said there. When you I 557 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: knew length, they don't stay blocked long. They're like a 558 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: really good recovering. Good defenses recover quickly because you can 559 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: fool people, you know, you there's no question you pool people. 560 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: They Seeattle and Houston. When you fool them, they course 561 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: correct catch up very quickly. So you don't get a 562 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: lot of big plays because there's not a lot of 563 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: big gaps like last weekend when the when the Packers 564 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: fooled the Bears in the first half, there were huge, 565 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: huge openings, long Tarmacs, long runways. You don't get that 566 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: against Seattle. In Houston, if you fool them, there's it's 567 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: like they're playing with an extra due. You know, you 568 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: get about four yards to run, then there's a host 569 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: of guys around you. 570 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 9: Remember you, I think you had the point on Tuesday 571 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 9: that on that opening drive, first second drive, the Steelers 572 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 9: had a couple of plays and Rogers was like, oh 573 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,959 Speaker 9: my gosh, he was very excited and animated. And then 574 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 9: after that, they just shut everything down. It was like 575 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 9: they just turned the water off. No, that's enough, you're 576 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 9: not doing anything. 577 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Aaron came in. You could tell Aaron 578 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: New we got to put a couple of plays. They're 579 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: gonna work. They did, and when they had the punt, 580 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: it's like, Aaron New, that's trouble because there's not a 581 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: lot to fools these guys. 582 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 9: Patriots have a rookie left tackle in Campbell going up 583 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 9: against one of the all pro ed rushers, you know 584 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 9: that kid Petre in the secondary. Dude, he is a missile. 585 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,719 Speaker 9: He is hitting so hard. He's got the big helmet, 586 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 9: which is kind of deceptive because those guys are usually 587 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 9: you know, like not wanting the contact. He wants all 588 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 9: the smoke. And I just I'm kind of in love 589 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 9: with the sex and team. I know we have a 590 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 9: Houston Homer on staff. I think they win this outright, 591 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 9: But then again, I picked against the Patriots last weekend. 592 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: Looked like a fool. 593 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 7: J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and 594 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 7: thanks for stopping by. 595 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: I thought this was informative and interesting. Apparently, when Mike 596 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: Tomlin informed the team, the Steeler team that he was 597 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: going to step away. It was really emotional. I mean, 598 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: players one by one were coming up and giving great 599 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: gratitude and humility and thank you coach. Kind of the 600 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: opposite of what happens in college football because of the calendar. 601 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: You're always like leaving town on the midnight train as 602 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: a college coach, and in the NFL it's usually ugly 603 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: because the coach gets canned, or even Belichick leaves and 604 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: it's surly and the owner and the coach are mad 605 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: at each other. Players have always, especially veteran players, have 606 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: always loved Tomlin. In fact, I called the GM yesterday 607 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: and I said, why why doesn't Tomlin have a coaching tree. 608 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: We called it yesterday a coaching cactus. There's no tree, 609 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: And he said, because Tomlin doesn't have a hot shot, young, 610 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: ascending McVeigh and his staff or a Shanahan. He likes 611 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: older players and older staffs. He's very old school, and 612 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: I think what that gives you is a higher floor 613 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: and a lower ceiling. You don't have the ascending, hot 614 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: shot offensive coordinator on your staff. That's just not what 615 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: he does. He likes his players older. He tends to 616 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: be old school in his ideology. He likes his staffs 617 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: to be a tad older and that's okay. That avoids implosion, 618 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: but you don't get fresh ideas and you don't see things, 619 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, a new set of eyes. So but I 620 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: will tell you this, he is more than a coach. 621 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: He connects with players on a personal level level. Emmanuel 622 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: Sanders talked about this yesterday. 623 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 13: The moment that I got there, he was like a 624 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 13: father figure to me. 625 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 9: Uh. 626 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 13: The things that he taught me in terms of investing 627 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 13: my money and the wayed to think. 628 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 4: And that's what type of player coach he is. 629 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 13: He's always going to give it to you, real role, 630 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 13: authentic uh, and. 631 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 5: You know it. 632 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 13: Depending on how you take it, you might not like it, 633 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 13: but you know that he has your best interest. 634 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: And that's why I always love him, man. 635 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 13: And he was one of those guys that truly was 636 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 13: a blessing for me to get drafted with him because 637 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 13: he just changed my whole mindset in the way that 638 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,720 Speaker 13: I was thinking about going about my business. 639 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's aid Mike Tomalin highly respected. You know, the 640 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: NFL's got younger and Tomin's a little old school. And 641 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: that's why I said, I think it's time for a 642 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: you know reset, take the year off, do a Sean Payton, 643 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: do some TV, hang out with family. Reset, kind of 644 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: modernize how you view certain things. You don't have to 645 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: break it all down, but you know, kind of modernize it. 646 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: But players hold him an incredibly higher regard. 647 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 648 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: in neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 649 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio. 650 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 9: App Monday on Fox four of women's college basketball's best 651 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 9: tip off in the Correta Scott King Classic at noon 652 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 9: Eastern it's TC Ohio State. Then at two thirty, fifth 653 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 9: ranked Vanderbilt takes on eighth ranked Michigan. 654 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 8: It all begins Monday only on Fox. 655 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: Greg Coosel coming up next hour. Tom Brady was fantastic 656 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: twenty minutes. If you didn't hear it, put it on 657 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: the podcast. He was unbelievable today, broke down all the games, 658 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: all the thoughts. I mean, listen, I put the chart 659 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: up earlier of all the quarterbacks left in the playoffs, 660 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 1: and you've got an older pocket quarterback in Stafford, and 661 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: then you've got a lot of inexperienced guys who don't 662 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: have a lot of long runs in the playoffs. It's 663 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: Drake May, It's bow Nicks, It's Caleb c J. Stroud 664 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: So and Brock Purty. So this really feels like next 665 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: year Mahomes, Burrow Lamar could be back in. Justin Herbert 666 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: is going to have both of his tackles back with 667 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: the Chargers and they'll probably readdress the offensive line, you know, 668 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a it's not an now or 669 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: never year, but now it would be a really good 670 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 1: time year. Tom Brady on moving forward for Josh toward 671 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. 672 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 4: This is the game for him. 673 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of career defining games for quarterbacks, 674 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: and when you're a veteran quarterback and you're not dealing 675 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 3: with Patrick Mahomes anymore, and that's been kind of a 676 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: bit of a kryptonite for the Bills over the years. 677 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 4: This is the time for you know who. 678 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: They feel Josh one of the best quarterbacks in ac 679 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: to go out there and have his year. 680 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 5: He won the MVP last year. 681 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 4: He's got a. 682 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: Great chance to go on the road. I know he's 683 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 3: a little bit under man. It's hard to not love 684 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills in this story, and you know, I 685 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 3: think it would be just incredible for their fan base 686 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: who have been, you know, so enthusiastic about this team 687 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: to finally get over the hump and then make it 688 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: to you know, a championship game. 689 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: What's really interesting about this weekend and Saturday specifically, so 690 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: the first game Saturday, we think the players amazing, Josh Allen, 691 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: but we don't know if we love the rest of 692 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: the parade. We love Josh, we know Josh is good 693 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: enough to win a Super Bowl? Is the coach ride? 694 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,799 Speaker 1: Is the defense ride? Are the weapons right? And then 695 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: there's the Seattle game. Seattle. Oh, we love this new coach, 696 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: we love this Seahawk roster, but I don't know if 697 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: I trust Darnold. In Buffalo, we know Josh is good 698 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: enough to hoist the trophy. We worry about the staff, 699 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: We worry about the roster. We worry about I mean, 700 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: can keyon Coleman make one big play? Can the defense 701 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: stop the run? In Seattle, it's different. You love the 702 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: new coach, you love the run game, you love the 703 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: speed of the defense. We don't know if we don't 704 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: know if we trust Donald? 705 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 13: Right. 706 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,800 Speaker 1: So here's Tom Brady on staying aggressive for Sam Donald, 707 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: looking for that first playoff. 708 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 3: W when you get to these big moments in big games, 709 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 3: whether that's you know, certainly playoffs or some of these 710 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 3: games have happened at the end of the year determined 711 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: whether going to get in or not. The margin of 712 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 3: air when you play good teams is just very small. 713 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 3: So that's where the fundamentals come into play. You have to, 714 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 3: you know, in order to throw the ball accurate, okay, 715 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 3: and if you throw it accurately make a decisions, You're 716 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 3: not going to throw a lot of interceptions. 717 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 5: It's over time. 718 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 3: You need to refine your techniques so that when you 719 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 3: get these big moments, you're as accurate as you can 720 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 3: possibly be because you have the least margin of air. 721 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: The one thing I think you really get this weekend. 722 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: You don't get all eight for eight great quarterbacks or 723 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: eight for eight offensive lines, Buffalo's old lines, good Seattle. 724 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: It's probably a weakness. What you do get is B 725 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: plus at minimum. Coaching. I mean, if you look at 726 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: the one common thread this weekend, it's great coaching. And 727 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: the truth is Sean McDermott may win a trophy. I mean, 728 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: I've said Sean McDermott to me, has sort of a 729 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer Chuck knoxfeel. You know he's capable, you know 730 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: he's a good coach. Is he the coach that gets creative, 731 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,760 Speaker 1: gets you over the hump. Sean McDermott's absolutely a good coach. 732 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, Robert Sala hasn't had near the success. 733 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: I think Sala deserves the second chance, right Brian Flores 734 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: hasn't had nearly as much successful I think Brian Flores 735 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: deserves the second chance. Sean mcdermot's a B plus coach. 736 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: But generally, historically it's the Belichicks the Reids that have 737 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 1: on average high percentage have won the trophies. But I 738 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: mean that may end with a win. I find it hard. 739 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand you love your your local team. 740 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: I think if you ask the country who they were 741 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: rooting for, they're rooting for Buffalo. And I think their 742 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: offensive personnel's better than I give it credit for. I mean, 743 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: they have a star quarterback, star back, really good tight end, 744 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: star left tackle, really good O line they just don't 745 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: have I mean, listen, receiver is the hardest position to 746 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: draft in the first round. If you go to last 747 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: twenty drafts, and I don't remember who has this. Apologize 748 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: somebody listed the top last twenty drafts. The percentage that 749 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: busts the least and the percentage position that busts the most. 750 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: Wide receiver is the biggest bus position, and by a 751 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: long shot, it can be a temperamental position. It's skill 752 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: over maturity. You're just looking for a guy that breaks 753 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: the huddle and could beat people down the field. And 754 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 1: there's a lot of so it's hard for me to 755 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: hold it against Buffalo a lot of these Why. I mean, 756 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick could not draft the first round wide receiver 757 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,919 Speaker 1: to save his life. Pretty good Coach Kansas City's GM, 758 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: Brett Veach got as good as any GM in the league. 759 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: He's missed on some wide receiver, Sky Moore Philadelphia. Howie Roseman, 760 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: remember a few years ago first round took a wide 761 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: receiver from TCU. Did not work. Here's our playoff schedule. 762 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,560 Speaker 1: If I had the guests right now, I've told you 763 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: I've stopped doubting Buffalo. I'll say Buffalo wins close, Seattle 764 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: wins by a touchdown. God that this Patriot Texans game 765 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 1: is off. I don't know. I like the Rams over 766 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: the Bears, Texans Patriots to me, you know again, the 767 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,759 Speaker 1: Texans were so turnover prone. I don't think they will 768 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,280 Speaker 1: be this weekend. I don't know where I find listen. 769 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: I said, Patriots, Chargers, stay away, Patriots, Texans, you probably 770 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: take the home team. I think they have a much 771 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: livelier offense. But you know, Drake May has got to 772 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: avoid the implosion and that is easier said than done. 773 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 1: You saw the struggles Aaron Rodgers head. The longest drive 774 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: for the Steelers in the second half was twenty three yards. 775 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: And Pittsburgh beat New England. 776 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 9: This year, And we got an update on Bill's Broncos. 777 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 9: Not great news. Maxwell Hairston, the talented rookie cornerback. Remember 778 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 9: he flashed well against the Chiefs earlier this season. He's 779 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 9: officially been ruled out. So Jordan Poyer out, Hairston out. 780 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 9: That's two in the Buffalo secondary down against Denver. We're 781 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 9: waiting on Ed Oliver, who would be a big get 782 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 9: back to the line. 783 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, all right. Greg Cosel next hour show 784 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 1: is flying by. It's the Hurt