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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: George Noriy along with Richard C. Hoagland. Richards podcast is

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Speaker 2: called the Other Side of Midnight, which you can get

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Speaker 2: to well with his website, The Other Side of Midnight

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Speaker 2: dot Com. Richie, I'll let you wrap up about this

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Speaker 2: HD Space drive. Then I got to ask you about

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Speaker 2: this NASA moon rock in the Oval office.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's move everybody over to the page where Lex

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Speaker 3: has gracefully put links and images. Can you tell everybody

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Speaker 3: how to get there? Yep.

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Speaker 2: We go to Coast tocoastam dot com in the carousel,

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Speaker 2: the revolving highlight reel. Click the first button and then

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Speaker 2: Richard's graphics will pop up. There's also a PDF file

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Speaker 2: there that you can click. It's there that as well.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, rich Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The PDP is really high resolution. Okay, So everybody's on

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Speaker 3: that page at the top, Lex with the you know,

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Speaker 3: comparison micrograb. Item number one right end of the photo

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Speaker 3: is the link to the Forbes magazine article. And you

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Speaker 3: don't get into Forbes, George, unless you're real and a

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Speaker 3: hard nose three D money magazine newspaper whatever. So they've

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Speaker 3: done a very broad view of this whole amazing thing.

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Speaker 3: What they don't get into is the is the philosophy

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Speaker 3: that if this thing works, then everything we think we

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Speaker 3: know is wrong. There are more than three dimensions. That's

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Speaker 3: why I call it a hyperdimensional because even though certain

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Speaker 3: scientists like McCulloch and even the professional Pentagon Research Agency

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Speaker 3: called DARPA, the Advanced Research Projects Agency which the head

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Speaker 3: of this company IVO led him to develop the space

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Speaker 3: drive and put it aboard another company's space craft, which

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Speaker 3: then must launched into orbit on November eleventh, all that notwithstanding,

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Speaker 3: if this thing works, none of their three D theories does.

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Speaker 3: It's all arm waving because in our philosophy and in logic,

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Speaker 3: how can you put something in the middle of nowhere space,

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Speaker 3: have no engines, no fuel, flip a switch and have

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Speaker 3: it does somewhere and it works exactly? If it works,

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Speaker 3: it means everything founded on the idea that we're limited

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Speaker 3: to three dimensions through your space one of time is wrong,

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Speaker 3: and that opens up such a can of worms. George,

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Speaker 3: you and I are going to have to do twenty

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Speaker 3: more years of shows.

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Speaker 2: That's hope we can. I intend to that would put

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Speaker 2: you at about what one hundred and three.

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Speaker 3: Well, remember, with this breakthrough comes every breakthrough you can imagine,

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Speaker 3: including biology external, you know, extended aging, not getting old,

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Speaker 3: not getting infirm, you know, living as long as you want,

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Speaker 3: not trivial stuff.

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Speaker 2: How long has it been around?

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Speaker 3: They put it up on November eleventh. They're taking two

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Speaker 3: months of what we call baseline data, meaning you want

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Speaker 3: everybody in the world who can track it to really

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Speaker 3: nail down the orbit because orbits in lower orbit tend

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Speaker 3: get all that jiggle in an orbit where there's no

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Speaker 3: engine in this thing. None zero, and then you get

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Speaker 3: like two months they said, sixty days. We're coming up

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Speaker 3: like just before Christmas. Wouldn't it be amazing if they

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Speaker 3: just because they got so much good data, they flip

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Speaker 3: the switch before Christmas or between Christmas and New Year's

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Speaker 3: Can you think George of the bigger more astonishingly positive?

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Speaker 2: So I'm dropping the ball in times square?

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Speaker 3: Yes more. Then, Now let me tell you one very

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Speaker 3: practical application. It's not gonna happen tomorrow. It's not gonna

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Speaker 3: happen next year, but it could happen in five years.

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Speaker 3: If this technology works, they're calling it a quantum drive,

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Speaker 3: to be inviolable. Not explained really by either guy, but inviolable.

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Speaker 3: My acutron measurements have said for decades that inertia can

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Speaker 3: changing it all the time, and nobody's noticing because they're

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Speaker 3: not looking close enough. It doesn't affec everyday life. But

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Speaker 3: if this thing works, George, let me tell you why.

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Speaker 3: In five years, it could put an end to all

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Speaker 3: war on Earth. Let me say that again. If this

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Speaker 3: the flip side called momentum. When you drop a bomb

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Speaker 3: death is through the transfer of momentum through inertia and

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Speaker 3: to create a gadget device to protect every city, every hamlet,

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Speaker 2: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we live at an amazing time, and they're gonna

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Speaker 3: test the damn thing sometime in the next month, maybe

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Speaker 3: sooner overhead even as we're talking tonight. Now, do you

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Speaker 3: see why I think this might be one of our

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Speaker 2: A yes, so far, so good. And why are you

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Speaker 2: so excited about a moon rock in the old velossit?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, let me start at the beginning. Several months

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Speaker 3: about major enterprise mission discoveries, the Lunar Stonehenge, which we've

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Speaker 3: got more data on, and I'll come back and do

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Speaker 3: all show on that. We're gonna do a whole show

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Speaker 3: on this artifact in Biden's Oval office on the thirtieth,

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Speaker 3: the night of Saturday the thirtieth, the night before New

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Speaker 3: Year's Eve. We're gonna do a whole three hours with

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Speaker 3: all the data. So you'll leave with absolutely no doubt

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Speaker 3: that Biden is sitting on an et artifact.

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Speaker 2: You will on the other side of midnight.

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Speaker 3: You mean, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, so if you look back at Lex's page at

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Speaker 3: the very top, there is a two panel image left

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Speaker 3: and right. Those are what are called thin sections of

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Speaker 3: moon rocks that were brought back from the Moon by

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Speaker 3: Apollo sixteen. Now, the rocks on the Moon are not

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Speaker 2: I like the case that the rock is in.

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Speaker 3: Say again, I like the case.

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Speaker 3: I mean you mean the presidence. Yeah, well we're gonna

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Speaker 2: One, which one I've seen I'm working on the top

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Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, separate panels. These are small thin sections of

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Speaker 3: two Apollo sixteen moon rocks. Because most moon rocks are

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Speaker 3: you see little tiny machinery, geometric machinery, things, gadgets, technology,

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Speaker 3: and of course didn't see anything like that. And doctor Brandenburg,

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Speaker 3: you know, of course John Brandenburg, right, George, Oh yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: he's looked at these things and he has come to

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Speaker 3: been looked at. They've been put away and saved for

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Speaker 3: future generations when science will get better and better and better.

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Speaker 2: Did the astronauts know what they were picking up?

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Speaker 3: I have no idea. They just scooped up stuff, because

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Speaker 2: Now, how did you come up with these conclusions?

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Speaker 3: Well? I was asked by Morning Star many many.

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Speaker 2: Months ago Friday Night.

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Speaker 3: But I understand you've got some good stuff. I was

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Speaker 2: Looks like a mechanic's bucket that was just dumped on George.

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Speaker 3: That's impossible. That is not possible by everything we think

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Speaker 3: of these samples, look at them totally independently, but in public, transparently,

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Speaker 3: and when you can't, then he's got to be right.

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Speaker 2: This picture The picture we're looking at was taken on

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Speaker 3: Two two pictures, two pictures. I put them together. The

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Speaker 2: The other one looks like some kind of spaceship blew up,

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. It's real. You're looking at it. The

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Speaker 3: only unbelievable part is the political non reaction of NASA,

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Speaker 3: academic establishment. Because this stuff's been sitting in our archives

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Speaker 3: under human possession for fifty years.

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Speaker 2: And you brought us a sample of a Smithsonian rock.

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Speaker 2: What's that all?

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Speaker 3: Okay? In the interim between Apollo, which was fifty years ago,

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Speaker 3: the only new sample as acquired of extraterrestra materials was

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Speaker 3: an unmanned robotic mission called Osiris REX. That name is

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Speaker 3: not accidental, by the way, that went to an asteroid

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Speaker 3: precautions for sterilization and you know, contamination and all that,

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Speaker 3: they open this thing up, take out the samples and

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Speaker 3: start sending them around to laboratories all over the world.

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Speaker 3: In this pristine condition, they're not going to use FedEx,

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Speaker 3: and they will then be analyzed by different countries, different scientists,

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Speaker 3: different institutions, different you know, universities, and there will be

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Speaker 3: by current state of the art technology here on Earth.

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Speaker 3: That's the idea, right, you would think, Okay, go to

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Speaker 3: my item number four. Lex didn't quite put one in sequence.

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Speaker 3: Go to number four. You see it?

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Speaker 2: What am I looking at? Which one number.

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Speaker 3: Four on an image page? To scroll down?

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Speaker 2: My numbers are cut off, My number sides are cut off.

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Speaker 3: Maybe your screen is too big.

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Speaker 2: But are you looking at these two rocks? Side by side.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, that's the it's the link below that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's not a picture, it's a link to a news story.

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Speaker 2: Or the news story. Okay, number four Yeah, okay. It

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Speaker 2: says I was looking for a picture. I was looking

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Speaker 3: Well, you're going to go back up and look at

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Speaker 3: the picture. Neck. So it's been two months. The headline says,

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Speaker 3: why can't NASA open the damn astronauts sample container? I

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Speaker 3: added the.

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Speaker 2: Damn why can't they?

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Speaker 3: Their excuse is they can't find the right screwdriver.

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Speaker 2: What.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a dumb, stupid cover story. And the reason

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Speaker 3: I know is because when when Benu was sampled by

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Speaker 3: Osiris Rex, the sample arm collected so much material it

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Speaker 3: was spilling in zero gravity out into space, and they

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Speaker 3: quickly slammed the lid and they trapped some material inside

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Speaker 3: the cover, but not inside the sample container, which are

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Speaker 3: two separate compartments in the in the Osiris REX spacecraft.

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Speaker 3: So we were able to open the outside container but

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Speaker 3: not the inside sample container.

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Speaker 2: And whatever the sample is.

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Speaker 3: Wantch of stuff outside?

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Speaker 2: This sample doesn't look like something natural, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not.

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