1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL Podcast. Praise to the football Gods. 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas, and I am joined in 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Week one, 6 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. Whoa football everywhere? Football in the morning 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: here on the West Coast, Football in the afternoon, football 8 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: at night. We are flying football streaming after the Sunday 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: night game for the first time. If you're listening to 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: our podcast, you can check that out. That's on YouTube. 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: But we're gonna be doing that five minutes after the 12 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Sunday night game. It's a beautiful every week all season, 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: the best week of the it's the best week of 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: the year. I know you, you know, two of you 15 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: might disagree, but I think it's best foot. It's a 16 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: good week for you Greg, So then it's a good 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: week for every week is a good week for Greg 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Rosenthal when it comes to the NFL. Marking myself, Yes, 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: another dark dart to another dark year to come. We'll 20 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: get to all that. And um um, you know, looking 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: at the landscape of Week one in the NFL, you know, 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: certain things that we kind of expected came to fruition 23 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: in Week one. The Chiefs would be unstoppable, the Dolphins 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: would be completely stoppable. Uh, Jamis Winston would be a sloppy, 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: mistake boat prone quarterback. The Patriots would do something distasteful. 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: All these things. We expected these things to happen, and 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: they did. But then there's the surprises that you know, 28 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: like the Titans would come out feisty and the Browns 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: would come out drunk. Lamar Jackson would come out like 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen answer to Patrick Mahomes making the leap. 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean this, this is the excitement of a new 32 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: season of football because everyone thinks they know everything and 33 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: then the games start and here we are with none 34 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: of us know anything. We say this every September eight 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, So here we are. Mark you 36 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: have anything good? I know, it's it's been a bad day. 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: You know, it's been a bad day as a football fan. 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: At one point today you said you were a Bengals fan. 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: I they kind of won me over for a brief 40 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: Bernard lost then they lost me. But um I I 41 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a perception changing week and 42 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals are part of that for me. But then 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: Week two tends to, you know, bring us back to 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: earth on a couple of things too, So I'm not 45 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: ready to make any final conclusions a long season. That 46 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 1: wasn't even Mark's best quote, which what was Mark? I 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: don know what Michael and said, Mark's not dead. You 48 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: thought he was dead, but he's not dead. And Mark 49 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: said under his breath, not on the outside. You know, 50 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: something's feel different. Some things feel very unoriginal and very 51 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: similar to other years, you know, and Jaws when Brody 52 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: and Quint and Hooper they're all under the deck and 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: they're comparing the shark bites and injuries. That was Mark 54 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: and I after the dust settled on the early games 55 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: where the Browns and again we're gonna get to lay 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: an unholy egg at home, losing my thirty points of 57 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: the Titoons of all teams, and then the Jets do 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: what the Jets do, which is drop a absolute heartbreaking, 59 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: disgraceful meltdown in the in the third and fourth quarter. Um, 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: these are two injuries that are going to take some 61 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 1: time to scar over Mark until they play each other 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: next week. And one of us sinks into a deeper 63 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: arrest that that was the time of the day where 64 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: you guys seem like less excited about the Marlon Mack 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: twelve yard run. I was honking about. Yeah, it didn't. 66 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: Greg somehow found a way again to not emotionally connect 67 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: with Dan and I on a football Sunday. I mean, 68 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: we don't know. I don't have to pretend like everyone died. 69 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: It's a football game. We're moving on. It must be 70 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: easy to be must be easy. I'm enjoying the other games, 71 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: all right, So we got all these games to get 72 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: to and we'll close the show, of course by digging 73 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: into Sunday night football with Gregg's thrown of these Patriots 74 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: against the Steelers. Uh So, let's get going. And where 75 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: do we want to start? Why don't we start? Yes, 76 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: those unstoppable Kansas City Chiefs four man front for the 77 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars as Mahomes holding it, firing it. Lake caught at 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: the forty fifty in the open field at the forty 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: THI touchdown Kansas City Sammy watchings p sixty seven year 80 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: touchdown right out of the gate. In the NFL, m 81 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: VT already gets more touchdown passages in this game, and 82 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: he did all last year against the Jaguars. There you go, 83 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: Mitch holt Is, he's got that Week one excitement for 84 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: the Chiefs radio network. Patrick Mahomes through for three seventy 85 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: eight and three touches, all three of us scoring strikes 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: to an unstoppable Sammy Watkins, and the Chiefs open up 87 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: their season with the dominant fort win over the Jaguars 88 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: at the h Chlorine Tank. You know, this was a 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: worst case scenario for the Jags. I watched this game, 90 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: and you know, they get their defense worked over in 91 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: their own building. You know, they've got people in their 92 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: bikinis and their swim trunks and their margarita's, and they're 93 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: looking to enjoy the football game. They're looking to get 94 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: excited about the return of the the dominant Jaguars defense. 95 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: And I'll take an l there. I thought this was 96 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna be a game where the Chiefs were gonna have 97 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: some trouble, but they had no trouble at all. In fact, 98 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: I'll say this, the Chiefs, as crazy as it sounds, 99 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: They roll up about five yards and they still left 100 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: points on the field. There were some plays that they missed. 101 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: A one point Patrick Willhomes tried to no look pass 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: to a wide open Travis Kelsey in the end zone 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: and airmailed it. Uh there were a couple of plays 104 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: here and there that they missed, and yet they still 105 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: roll all over the Jags. And for the Jaguars, yeah, 106 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: not only do you get embarrassed at home, you lose 107 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: Nick Foles, your free agent savior. Uh in the first 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: quarter with a broken clavical He's gonna have surgery. He's 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna be out indefinitely. Uh So, just a total nightmare. 110 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 1: The Chiefs feeling good, the Jags look like they're in 111 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: serious trouble. So many big stories from this game, and 112 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't know where to start, but Gardner Minshew coming 113 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: in going twenty five for two seventy five and moving 114 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: the ball at least in the short term was interesting. 115 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean I would have never It's a very soft 116 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: Chief's defense by the time he was doing all sure, 117 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: But it wasn't the Jaguar's offense that was a problem. 118 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the Chiefs put up seventeen points in the 119 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: first quarter and then had the lead throughout, and Minshew 120 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: was moving the ball from minute one, and then the 121 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: fact that Tyreek Hill had a serious injury in this 122 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: game is gonna miss multiple weeks. Almost another is an afterthought. 123 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: But that's that's pretty big deal for the Chiefs as well. 124 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know, Dan, you talked about 125 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: things that are expected and unexpected in Week one, and 126 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: you know, for me, the thing the full the durability 127 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: of Nick Foles has been a b line through his career, 128 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: and he fits when he has to come in and 129 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: patch a team and play three or four games in 130 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: a row. But you know, he's never started more than 131 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: eleven games in his season and when he was a starter. 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: Durability and injuries and a clavical type injury feels like 133 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: a very Nick Foles type setback to me. And the 134 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: timing of it is so disruptive. And I don't look 135 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: at the Jaguars defense. This is you played a high 136 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: octane attack here. We can't just assume that they're going 137 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: to proceed forward with the Jacksonville defense we've seen in 138 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: the past. There were a lot of issues today. How 139 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: many network TV recap shows on Monday will be rehashing 140 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,679 Speaker 1: the Eli to Coughlin speculation once again rejoining is because 141 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: they lost the quarterback and you know it's Danny Dimes 142 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: time in New York. Well, here's the thing. Yes, Garden 143 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: the name, by the way, I gotta love it. Gardner there, 144 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew too. Oh the second, Yes it is Gardner 145 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: Minshew Roman numeral two. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yes, he looked 146 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: really good. Two touch ones. But um, this cannot be 147 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: the Jaguars planned and I just have to call them, 148 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: call them out here for maybe Minshew turns into the 149 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: second coming of Tom Brady is the sixth round pick. 150 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: But Nick Foles has been injury prone, and the fact 151 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: that you end to this season with a completely untested 152 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: kid who barely got drafted just speaks to a level 153 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: of preparation by the organization that it's hard to get behind. 154 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: And when you look at the Jags and that division, 155 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: you wonder if they are in really deep trouble because 156 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: if if Folds mrs extended time, and you gotta expect 157 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: none of us are doctors. Well markets, he doesn't talk 158 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: about it all, but you gotta expect he's gonna miss 159 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: at least a month. But it's maybe two months, and 160 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: by the time he gets back it might be too late. 161 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: Well part of week one, the reaction is to find 162 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,239 Speaker 1: out what's real and what's just a one week aberration. 163 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: And I think you have to look at Jacksonville as 164 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: the biggest losers of Week one just because they lost 165 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: their quarterback and they play the Texans and the Titans 166 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: the next two weeks, so those are division games. I mean, 167 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: they can look to some of the offense and see positive. 168 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: DJ Charkoo did nothing for them last year. Dty six yards, 169 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: Chris Connley they pick up, has ninety seven yards in 170 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: a touch on You figure the defense will get it 171 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: going eventually with all these Week one games. And maybe 172 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: we don't need to repeat this point more than once. 173 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: I do in everyone's at it the fact that none 174 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: of the teams are playing in the preseason and it's 175 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: so hot in a lot of these places, including jackson 176 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: But I think it's a factor. I do think there's 177 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: just things that are gonna happen this week that it's 178 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: hard to know what due to fatigue or or that, 179 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: but it's a big factor. I would say this, if 180 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: you're a Chiefs fan, you have to be excited about 181 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy jumping in eighty one yards off ten carries. 182 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: And we've waited for Sammy Watkins to do this forever. 183 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: Nine catches, a hundred nine yards and three touchdowns. We've 184 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: seen games similar to this from him before, and then 185 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 1: it go for thirty yards the next He's got to 186 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: stay healthy. He's another guy. Well, we have to is out, 187 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: they say, for probably a few weeks ums today. Yes, 188 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: And we should mention we haven't done a show since 189 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: he signed his long term contract, which, if you include 190 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: the total deal, is about eighteen million dollars a year 191 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: in terms of the new money. Otherwise it was a 192 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars. I know, we've seen a lot of 193 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: surprising things, you know, cynical things since we've taped this podcast. 194 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: This one hit me when it happened that it's one 195 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: of the most cynical moves I've seen in NFL history. 196 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: They basically looked at what happened with Tyreek Hill in 197 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: this child abuse case and they decided and I understand 198 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: from Tyreek hill side why he wanted to do, and said, well, 199 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: that's worth about a thirty percent discount on your long 200 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: term contract. Will sign you now, but take take less 201 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: money than than would be market value. Of course he's 202 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna take it. There's some talk he had financial problems, 203 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: But I don't know, like in a in a what's 204 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 1: the other what's the other way to play it? Don't 205 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: don't reward someone um that's had this, had his child 206 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: taken from him, But once they bring him back, you know, 207 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: that's not an option there. They see how this season 208 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: plays out. Maybe wait for you know, this was an 209 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: offseason where a lot happened for him. Maybe have that 210 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: play at you have the fast tag. I hear you 211 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: can ask your question, Yeah, can can you name three 212 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: teams in the league that operate that way at this point? 213 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I think the Chiefs and 214 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: in general Andy Reid teams in general are going to 215 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: take chances on guys with history. I think they're a 216 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: little more aggressive in that. And they saw an opportunity 217 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: and they went for it. All right, we'll get more 218 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: into that as the week progresses, perhaps, but let's move 219 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: on now. So the big loser in the n f 220 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: C South was the Jaguars. Let's take a look at 221 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: a big winner. Playfake Mariota rolling right. They're gonna screen 222 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: it to Henry Man is blocked in the flat A 223 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: lot of room thirty forty fifty thirty five yes, yes, 224 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 1: no flags on the field, seventy five yards touchdown Titans 225 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:41,599 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry from Marcus Mariota and just like that and 226 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: answer Mike Keith, Titans Radio Network. Marcus Mariotta throw three 227 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: touchdown passes, including that game changing seventy five yard or 228 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: on a screen to big man Derrick Henry, and the 229 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Titans went into Cleveland and embarrassed the hyped up brownste 230 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: to thirteen. Uh. We'll give the Titoons their due in 231 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: a moment. And I promise you Titoons fans, I know 232 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: you're thinking you're gonna get screwed over here. You will 233 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: get your do. But we have to start with the Browns, 234 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: who could not have looked worse than their most highly 235 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: anticipated game in decades. Mark, what the hell happened at 236 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: the Dog Pound today? I think what happened is the Titans. 237 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: This is a team that came in with a defense 238 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: that was underrated last year and came in with more pieces. 239 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: I think Cam Wake as a pass rusher, absolutely ignited 240 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: this defense up front. And they went against a piece 241 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: of Cleveland's team that we were concerned about all through 242 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 1: the summer, which was their offensive line and Greg Robinson 243 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: at left tackle, already a known liability, gets ejected for 244 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: as he's falling down kicking a Titans player in the 245 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: face early in the game. They at at one point 246 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: going into the second half, had five healthy lineman and 247 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: essentially all of them playing out of position. They had 248 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: to move Justin McCrae to right tackle and Chris Hubbard 249 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: a left tackle after Kendall Lamb of filling for Greg 250 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: Robinson was ruled out with a knee injury about eight 251 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: players into being in the game. It was an absolute disaster. 252 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: And if you want to look at the difference between 253 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: last year and why didn't last year's offense show up, 254 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: and you add Odell Beckham, and you add all this business, 255 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: why aren't they the team that scored forty three points 256 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: because the offensive line unplugged entirely in Baker Mayfield, as 257 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: much as he has the skill set to evade tacklers 258 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: and maybe work behind a less than stellar line, last 259 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: year's line did play stellar protection down the down the stretch. 260 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: He was harassed. Today, he was harassed into pour throws. 261 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,839 Speaker 1: I think the team the team also got down early. 262 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: The Titans got in their head and they tired out 263 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland's defense that last year led the league and giving 264 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: up big plays, and they gave up big plays today. 265 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: It took a little while for Derrick Henry again get unhooked, 266 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: but he had a couple of big runs that set 267 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: up big first downs, and he had that seventy five 268 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: yard catch and run for a touchdown that broke Cleveland spirit. 269 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: This was a Titan's performance to remember. Is not just 270 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: the Titans. This is a total meltdown. And here's the 271 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: stat that will tell you that penalties Cleveland Browns eighteen 272 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: for one hundred and eighty two yards. So the Titans, 273 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: and again the Titans fans, you're gonna get your do. 274 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: But the Browns absolutely no showed this game. I think, 275 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: I think Cleveland and you know, Freddie Kitchens after the 276 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: game was asked about this. Eighteen penalties for an insane 277 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: amount of yardage, the most since nineteen fifty one for 278 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: the Browns. And if you said, you said, we're gonna 279 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: point back to some stats from nineteen fifty one for 280 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: this year's Browns team, you wouldn't have thought it was that. 281 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: And Kitchens did not have a great answer after the game. 282 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: He said, this wasn't happening in practice. They had dropped. 283 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Every offensive drive in the first half was capsized by penalties, 284 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: and every defensive potential stop was capsized by penalties. Jim 285 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: Nance correctly called this the shoppiest game he had ever seen, 286 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: and it was I think Tony Romo sat there thinking 287 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: this was a great situation for the Titans, and Cleveland 288 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: come completely did not play up to anything anyone thought. 289 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: It was an embarrassment. That choppiness was compounded I believe 290 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: in the second half by the hit that Baker Mayfield 291 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: took at the very end of the first half on 292 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: his throwing arm, and his arm did not look right 293 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: to me in the second half. That's not I'm not 294 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: making an excuse for him. He did not throw with 295 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: the same authority that he threw with. Well he and 296 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: I'll let you guys to this, but he he left 297 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: with his right wrist wrapped and they said it's you know, 298 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: it's nothing. Overly seriously, he said, he's fine, but I well, 299 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: we'll see if he's seen in pain during That's another 300 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: thing we all talked about leading up to week one. 301 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: What could hold the Browns back If you can't protect 302 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: the kid be and Cameron Wake was a huge part 303 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: of that. He gets three sacks, he continues to build 304 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: his case. I believe some days for the profile pro safety, 305 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame, where you're gonna have to 306 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: include those CFL m v ps. And he's got Dan 307 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: P's now and Mike Rabo built up a defense where 308 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: there's not superstars, but there's playmakers, especially at superstar Malcolm 309 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: about you know that the secondaries a little April. I 310 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of reasons to like them, and 311 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: I think the curse, as our friend Dave Damask would say, 312 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: of supposed to was in play here. When the Browns 313 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: fans were booing the heck out of their team and 314 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: it was twelve to six, I thought like, that's that's 315 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: maybe the expectations and everything that they were feeling and 316 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: believing offseason. The final score is very misleading in my mind. 317 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: It was fifteen thirteen late in the third. I mean, 318 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: this wasn't a blowout for three quarters. I don't think 319 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: it's misleading when Cleveland got forced into throwing past. Hear 320 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: what you're saying, but it's very rare that a team 321 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: loses by thirty and gains more yards than the other team. 322 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: That's what the Browns did. And the Titans, again to 323 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: their credit, they showed up and they bawled out. And 324 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: when you have a team like the Browns that has 325 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: a lot of hype around them, that fuels the opposition. 326 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: That's what happened a week one. Let's listen to Delaney Walker, 327 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: the tight end who had two touchdowns in this game. 328 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: He was one of those players was feeling very good afterwards. 329 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: Sleeps every year. Well, I mean, what's new? I mean 330 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: that's the question you already knew. But we like being 331 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: on at the radar. You know, they were who we 332 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: thought they were. If you want to crown them, crown them. 333 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 1: They still got to play football, and today we show 334 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: we play better football. I think this if Mariota plays 335 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: the way he plays today, and that is a huge if. 336 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: I think this is the most complete team in that division, 337 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: the a f C South, And I should not have 338 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: assumed that the Browns would just steam the steamroll them 339 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: like I did. Well and they I think that it 340 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: helps that a J Brown wide receiver, they've got something 341 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: in him. They can They look today like a complete 342 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: offense which has been missing in Tennessee. You know, I 343 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: will say this thing. I don't know where most Browns 344 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: fans are, but like I feel like I've been trying 345 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: to tell you all offseason that something concerns me about 346 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: these expectations. And today it's not that I thought this 347 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: would happen this way, but in my mind, when you're 348 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: thinking of possibility really long season though, there's got even 349 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: in a good tenant six season, you're gonna have major 350 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: ups and downs and and I think this team is 351 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a wild ride. I would just I would 352 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: point to the team with a shattered offensive line that 353 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: has a lot of big, funny, interesting surprises down the road. 354 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: But no team I think has had a better month 355 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: than the Titans because they watched Andrew Luck retire, they 356 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: watch Nick Foles get hurt. The Texans are absolutely right 357 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: there and they could benefit too. But but with this 358 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: win and those injuries, that's huge. Arthur Smith o C 359 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: Titans o C. He is in that short list for coordinator. 360 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: Wrap it up and feel it coming, Let's move on. 361 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: Let's head too. Oh yeah, you know we love it 362 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: because it gets crazy at Dignity Health Sports Park. Single 363 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: coverage Keenan Allen out to the right. I formation, Eckler 364 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: and Watt motion man from the left Hash Hunter Henry 365 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: to the right side of the line and off the 366 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: eler stop the field. Cluckstown Chocers win cho Wing Tabba Day, 367 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,639 Speaker 1: Austin Ekeler his skirt touched out of the afternoon and 368 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: and give the assist to what with a beautiful block 369 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: up into the world by Austin Ekeler, by this one 370 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: gold that sticks that move the sticks. They don't need 371 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: his input here. We got the call from that money smith. 372 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: Our boy, Hey have I am six forty Boston. Ekeler 373 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: crashed into the end zone from seven yards out in 374 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: the opening possession of overtime, clinching a win for the 375 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: Chargers over the Colts at Fearsome Dignity Help Sports Bar. 376 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: The Bolts recovered after Jacoby Brisseppa brought the Colts back 377 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: in regulation with a touchdown to two point conversion four 378 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: so t greg The Andrew luckless Cults were looking for 379 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: a feel good start to their season, but the Chargers 380 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: regrouped to close out a game they've lost many times before. 381 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: They have a game where they fumble a punt late 382 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: in the third quarter where Philip Rivers throws a fourth 383 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: quarter interception where you give up a twenty four to 384 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: nine lead to Jacoby Brissette. You think this is the 385 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: Chargers being the Chargers, But when they won the coin flip, 386 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: I thought they would win. I thought, whichever team wins 387 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: that coin flip is gonna score and it's mostly gonna 388 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: be a touch down. This game could have been in 389 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: the forties. Neither defense offered much resistance. Of the games 390 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: that I watched today, it was the game that I 391 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: felt I learned the least about both teams because I 392 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: think they've just really played to expectation. I think they're 393 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: both going to be really intriguing teams to watch. The 394 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: Chargers defense was a little worse than I expected. Marlon 395 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: Mack ran for a hundred and seventy four yards. Adam 396 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: vent A Terry missed three kicks, including a bunny inside 397 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: thirty yards that cost the Colts seven points. Yeah, don't 398 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: they call that a little Shirt's kind of like taking 399 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: the haircut, kind of inside baseball talk, like how many years? 400 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: How many games a year has been a Arry kicking 401 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: on grass? That's a big difference for a kicker. He 402 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: had an injury in uh the preseason and he was 403 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 1: he has one of these. He has one of these massagers, 404 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: which I bought really late at night one night. I 405 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: just was in, that's all I'm gonna say. One of 406 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: these massagers that you know, you really drill into. He's 407 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: doing that throughout the game on his leg that it's 408 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: a bad sign. So he cost them to win. I 409 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: mean they would have, they could have won the game. 410 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: Back to Greg solves his desert issues. He they replaced 411 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: by late night's shopping spree. The ads for him, those 412 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: hammers that just like they it's like painful, but yeah, 413 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: it's good, more curious really taking his thrown a visa 414 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: thing a little bit too literally. Um yeah, and you 415 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: know Andrew Luck is gone, Jacoby Brissett's there, and he 416 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: kept the cults interesting and they almost stole a game 417 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: on the road. So I think he played really well. Yeah. 418 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: Not the feel good storyline would be that the he 419 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: leads them to the comeback win and all that. They 420 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: don't get that, but still there's there's hoping. Andy for sure. 421 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: There was limited possessions in this game because the offense 422 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: kept going back and forth. Present wasn't a superstar, but 423 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: when it mattered, he moved them and he had one 424 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: throw on a third and long to Ebron which would 425 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: have cut the lead to two, and Ebron ended up 426 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: dropping it when he hit the ground in the in 427 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: but it was just a money throw, and you see 428 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette make those type of throws. He was a 429 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: little slow to make decisions here or there, but nine 430 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: two touchdowns and moved them when it mattered, and the 431 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: line played really well protecting him and getting t Y 432 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: Hilton off Marlon mack So, I think there was a 433 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: lot for both teams to like. I'm a little surprised 434 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,360 Speaker 1: that the Chargers defense was was so easy they gave up, 435 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: Like the two hundred plus yards rushing is not what 436 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: I would have thought. But every time I looked up, 437 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: I thought Keenan Allen was making a great catch. And also, 438 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: if you're gonna have a game like this from their 439 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: collection of backs, Austin Ekeler on the ground and through 440 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: the air winds up with you know, roughly a hundred 441 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: and fifty yards, you got a hundred and twenty five 442 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: on the ground for six yards per pop. Every game 443 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: like this, Melvin Gordon just simply matters less and less 444 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: because you're getting by. I am a little concerto baby, 445 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 1: that's inside baseball. I have some term Jackson, I get 446 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: on new to the job. So six for fifty, right, 447 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean they their offense looked, you know, as good 448 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: or better than they did all of last year. They 449 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: were ready to go from the first snap. It was 450 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: just the Chargers offense getting whatever they wanted. That would 451 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: worry me if I'm the Colts. The protection for Philip Rivers, 452 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: especially on the on the tackle, started to fall in 453 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: late in the game. But other than that, Melvin Gordon's 454 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: watching this, and I mean, there's no way they're gonna pay. 455 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,879 Speaker 1: Do you think he's watching. It's gotta be he's watching. 456 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: He's in the wilderness right now. It is impactful to 457 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: his future. He might be more he he might be 458 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: more likely to get traded than return to the charges. 459 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: I don't know to who Patriots ninth round pick. He 460 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: hasn't sabotaged his value enough yet. Ninth round pick in 461 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: four when they extend the draft. So salty. On second 462 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: and five from the five, play action blocks from Tyrn 463 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: Swift take Riddling the five walking in for the touchdown. 464 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: It's Raddletown Brad sham the sham God Cowboys Radio Network 465 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: at Prescott through for four oh five and tied a 466 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: career high with four touch up passes. That Cowboys rolled 467 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: up nearly five hundred yards of the Giants and a 468 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: thirty seventeen win. The Giant score the first touchdown, but 469 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: it became very apparent, very quickly, the driven we're badly 470 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: outclassed West. A lot to like about Big d on 471 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball on this one. Well, this 472 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: was not your Scott Lenahan established the run and stay 473 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: with the run offense. This was Kellen Moore getting creative 474 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: with play action shots down the field, up tempo, spreading 475 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: the ball around, very pass heavy offense in which Dak 476 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 1: Prescott finished the game with a perfect passer rating. Michael 477 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: gallop oh one of my favorite breakout candidates over a 478 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: hundred fifty yards, Amari Cooper, Blake jar when Jason went 479 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: and Randall cop All find the end zone and most 480 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: of the day frankly running wide open. And you wonder 481 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: how much of that is Kellen Moore's play calling and 482 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: how much of that is the Giants defense, which is 483 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: among the most talent pour in the NFL. But this 484 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: has to be a best case scenario if you're a 485 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, especially with Ezekiel Elliott looking at least a 486 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: step or too slower than normal, which is to be 487 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: expected if they're missing August. There are plenty of fans 488 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: that they don't follow every single transaction and movement that 489 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: a team makes in the off season, and they roll 490 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: in today and they don't even know that Kellen Moore's 491 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: maybe even the new play caller. But if you've been 492 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,400 Speaker 1: reading about him, listen to podcast each well that's true. 493 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: Check in please in the in between months if you 494 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: care to. But I mean, this is a huge development 495 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: for There are a couple of quarterbacks today that I 496 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: thought new coaching, a new coordinator helped flip the switch 497 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: on a little bit. And I thought Dak Prescott last 498 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: year was an uninteresting watch. The entire offense was dull, 499 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: totally different. Now, well, it's not just Kellen Moore, whom 500 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: some people have been calling a Sean McVeigh type of football. Mind, 501 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: it's not just him. It's guys like Michael Gallup or 502 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: another year better. It's that Travis Frederick, You're all pro 503 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: center is back. It's that Randall Cobb is looking really good, 504 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: like he back the clock. He looked good. Jason Witten's 505 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: back and I know that you know you can time 506 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: in with the sun dial after the catch. But he 507 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: even falls slowly. Now it's like actually tying people to watch. 508 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: Took flight and are starting to move humanly intriguing. Do 509 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: you guys, do you guys hear what I was hearing 510 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: there as West was talking, just like put shut it down. 511 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: The team of West t L has decided. It's he 512 00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: loves these Cowboys. I guess the Broncos are in there, though, 513 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: But the excitement that West has that his heart is open, 514 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: it's full, and he's letting America's team in whoun What 515 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: is the weakness with this Dallas Cowboys team? I don't 516 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: see one. You know, you were very high in Dallas 517 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: even at the end of last year, but especially almost 518 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: heroically he was. He was even asking for Greg's thing 519 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: that you bought the things of your legs. I said, 520 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but no this hammer though. On 521 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: the pain the Giants, it was kind of their season 522 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: in miniature a little bit. When you look at the 523 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: final numbers, Kwon is gonna at his hundred twenty yards rushing, 524 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: he busted off a sixty yard or early. He does 525 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: some damage out of the backfield, so he's gonna pile 526 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: up yardage and Evan Ingraham's gonna get his and Eli 527 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: Manning is gonna flash occasionally look okay, but then look 528 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: terrible other times. And then in the middle of everything 529 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: that will always be about where is Danny Dimes? And 530 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: he comes into the end of this game, gets a 531 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: few snaps and loses a fumble, completes three passes. Um. 532 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: That's what this Giant season is going to be about. 533 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: I think there's nothing competitive. I don't think week ones 534 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: early to make such a statement, but that feels like 535 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 1: what this season is. One little sandwich note when we 536 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: talked about our group collective sandwich better when Daniel Jones 537 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: would take the field, I had a two parter and 538 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: part was that he would take the field in week 539 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: one and then starting week two. I do think Eli 540 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: Manning probably needs to take a bad step off like 541 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: a city bus to not start next week. But there 542 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: is time. I know think Eli is taking a city bus. Ever, 543 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: he was not an other problem. They did not convert 544 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,719 Speaker 1: a third down into midway through the third quarter, but 545 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: this was not like Eli holding the offense back. He 546 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: there are plays in which he looks like he's, you know, 547 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: older than the general Sherman Tree, but or Jason Witten. 548 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: And I think you walk away thinking on a team 549 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: like this, they're just wasting time with Eli manning at quarterback, Like, 550 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: what's the purpose unless there's the story of their season 551 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: is gonna largely be about James Betcher in that defense, 552 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: which does look so talent for And if it is 553 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: one of the world two or three worst defense in 554 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: the league, which it looks like it could be, it 555 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: almost doesn't. It doesn't matter what you I mean. They 556 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: put up four hundred and seventy yards of offense that 557 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: didn't matter today, five yards passing, a perfect passer rating, 558 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: and a contract negotiation ongoing. Dak Prescott is in a 559 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: very good place and he has never looked better than 560 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: he looked in this game. And one yes, is it 561 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: about your sandwich propagandist? No, no, no no, we don't really care. 562 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: No no, no, well I know you don't because it's 563 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: it's trending poorly for you, so of course it would 564 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: get less, are is it? I don't know, but if, if, 565 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: if anything, trends less poorly for Dan, then it's just off. 566 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: As Greg knows, when you grow the beard sometimes you 567 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: get a more of a rugged look. And I really 568 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: like Pat Shermer what he's doing good And I will 569 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: say he looks he looks tough for he's already well built. 570 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: But also, let's cycle back Frank Reich. Someone's been working 571 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: on him too. He's he's a lot of these coaches 572 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: seem to be getting they understand it's a bigano. It's 573 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: a hotness renaissance for head coaches in the NFL. You 574 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: look at the I mean head coaches in the seventies 575 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: and eighties looked like Hugh Disasters, feel out of like 576 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: cardboard boxes. Put these guys. Put police tape around the 577 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 1: guys in the seventies. I won't even name them, but 578 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: you know who I'm talking about. Now, these these guys, 579 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: now they're grizzled like Kevin Costner types. The next step 580 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 1: is to go back to the Tom Landryer and let's 581 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: get these guys in three piece suits and top hats 582 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: and all this other's just let's stay in the let's 583 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: change the topic because it's getting weird and move on 584 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: to a different matchup in the NFC East when they 585 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: got weird coming good. He is going deep and it 586 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: is fun and sure check seven people what they want 587 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: some more? D oh, I was found the white sideline 588 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: and when split it up and d Jack fracted into 589 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: his hand and the Eagles have an extra point separating 590 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: them from the lead. The hero of December nineteen, two 591 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: thousand and ten, Okay comes up with another great play. Alright, 592 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: Merril Reese and Mike Quit of the Eagles Radio Network, 593 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: go nostalgia, How beautiful it is. Carson Wentz through a 594 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: pair of long touchdown passes to de Sean Jackson, including 595 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: that one you heard, and the Eagles overcame a seventeen 596 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: point deficit to beat the Washington Redskins thirty seven case 597 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: Keenan looked good early on for Washington, but the Eagles 598 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: woke up and took control. Mark d Jack D Jacks 599 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: is a star for the Eagles. Let's snuggle up under 600 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: a blanket with a popcorn and watch Silver Linings playbook 601 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: Turned Back the Clock. Baby. Yeah, I mean this game 602 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: started in a very weird way, and I think it 603 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: got on all our radars downstairs where the Redskins and 604 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 1: under with case Keenum running the show, jumped out to 605 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: this big lead, you know, against the team that I 606 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: think in Philadelphia might be the best team in the NFC. 607 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: Potentially got the Cowboys right there too in that division. 608 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: But to me, it's so strange when teams or when players, 609 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: star players leave a team. He went to Washington, so 610 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: it's a revenge game to some degree, burned out there 611 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: a bit, went to Tampa Bay and essentially watched his 612 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: career fizzle out, because there's four thousand articles wondering why 613 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: he He and Jamis went yes, but I would say 614 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: that you did not get the full to Shawn Jackson 615 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: in the in Tampa Bay to the point where last 616 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: year there was trade rumors and all this other business 617 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: hits the scene today and it's like he just simply 618 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: dialed us back to two thousand and ten and it's electric. 619 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: It's Andy Reid back in the house. But it's not. 620 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 1: It's his protege. And I thought this His performance changed 621 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: the game entirely, too long deep shots that essentially woke 622 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: up the Eagles offense. And there were a couple throws 623 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: in this game by Carson Wentz that reminded you he 624 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: was great last year, but that he's all the way 625 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: back the way that he can throw the ball on 626 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: the move move, and they got just enough from their 627 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: ground game, and in Washington, you know they could. They 628 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: felt like the team that game planned very well and 629 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: got some nice play from case Keenum and I think 630 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: I even said to Greg around hat time, this feels 631 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: like the game where you're gonna get the comeback. The 632 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: Eagles were primed for the comeback because they didn't get 633 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: unhooked early on. But the Redskins, all they needed to do, 634 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: I thought, is that they could, like any team with 635 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: the lead, control the ground in the third quarter and 636 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: get to the fourth quarter with that kind of a 637 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: lead and make a couple big plays. Darius Guys ten 638 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: carries eighteen yards. You didn't get enough from Chris Thompson. 639 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: They became a one sided offense in the second half. 640 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: They didn't get any big plays, and I'd be concerned 641 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: about them going forward, but they showed up in this game. 642 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: They did not lay an egg the way that we 643 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: thought that some teams would seven at halftime. To me, 644 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: was the most surprising thing that happened in the entire 645 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: day that the Red I agree, it's a very odd 646 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: first Philadelphia. They the Redskins lost Johnathan Allen pretty early 647 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: in this game, which it has to be big for 648 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: if their team is gonna surprise eyes at all. I mean, 649 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: their defense has to be better than average and to 650 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: to give up a lead like that has to be 651 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: pretty disappointed. It all, it all counts the same in 652 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: the end, like whenever the Eagles are fighting for the 653 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: wild card or the division race, at the end, they 654 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: can't afford to lose at home to the Redskins. So 655 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: it's a big win. And the Redskins did not have 656 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson to help them nurse that lead in the 657 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: second half because he was inactive. And after the game, 658 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: let me read this quote from Jay Gruden who was 659 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: probably a little bit annoyed after getting beat and then 660 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: being asked why all Day wasn't playing. He's the first 661 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: and second round back, so is Darius. So really, what 662 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: do we have about twenty one downs a game? Probably 663 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: eight of those are passes, twelve of those might be runs, 664 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: and Darius can handle those twelve. So if we have 665 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: a game when we think we can run the ball 666 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: fifty five times in a game and an I formation, 667 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: then sure, I'll get him up. Referring to Adrian Peterson, 668 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: the writing is on the wall. Adrian Peterson will be 669 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: on the Patriots in T minus four hours. Well, and 670 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: I think we talked about it. Did not point turned 671 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: Jake Gruden probably did not want to go into this 672 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: season with Adrian Peterson on the roster and he has 673 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: no control. Doesn't that sound like he's he's taken shots 674 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: at someone else in the organization that prefers to be 675 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: running I formations. He's like, let me und Peterson on 676 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: this team. It's it's so apparent it's Bruce Allen. I mean, 677 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: he does he want I don't know who he wants 678 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: on this team though, you know there we he said 679 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: a quote about his brother, Uh. I think on the 680 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: previous show that is he one of those guys that 681 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: just not his brother that hates all his quarterbacks. And 682 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: it's like, is Jake Gruden one of those guys It's 683 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: like doesn't like his players. I don't know, Like there's 684 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 1: a lot of you always hear a lot of things 685 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: in Washington and Bill O'Brien we were talking about I 686 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: still think Jay has coached better than than you would 687 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: expect for what he's been given over the last half decade. 688 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: Carson wentz M v P. Watch get on the bandwagon. 689 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: I would I thought the Ridge look damn good in 690 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: this game. The Redskin Terry McLaurin their rookie receiver five yards. 691 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean they have they have a couple of players 692 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: that they there. There were five rookies playing on this 693 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: team that contributed. Well, so there's somebody. But they're not 694 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: the Dolphins. They're not. There's something going on here that 695 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: is promising. All right, let's get this over with. Josh 696 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: Adlon alone in the backfield, takes the snap, looks down 697 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: the middle, looks like looks for John Brown, get separation, 698 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: makes it catch at the tan into the end, don't touchdown. 699 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: There's a flag on the play. Touchdown Buffalo. John Brown 700 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: got separation, but the flags drown by the deep official 701 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: down there at and they're gonna call it defensive pass interference. 702 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna decline it. And the Bills are a extra 703 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: point away from taking this lead. All right, John Murphy 704 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: and Eric Wood of the Bills Radio Network. Eric Wood 705 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: from my high school elder in Cincinnati. That doesn't matter 706 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: up west to celebratory, not today was We'll talk about 707 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: Eric one another day. Josh Alan connects on a thirty 708 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: eight yeard touched up past the John Brown three minutes 709 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: to play the Bills overcame four early turnovers to rally, 710 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: wiping out a sixteen zip second half deficit, crushing the Jets. 711 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: The old Suser, Keith Kansas, and everybody else at the 712 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: Metal Ends seventeen sixteen. New York was in complete control 713 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: of this game. Uh, that is until stud middle linebacker C. J. 714 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: Mosley exitive game in the third quarter. The Bills scored 715 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: in each of their final three possessions with Mosley on 716 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: the sideline, and uh, it's gonna be fair. Adam Gaze 717 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: and that Jets offense and I'm excited about and so 718 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: many people are excited about was not able to answer 719 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: the challenge at just a horrendous loss for the Jets 720 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: and an amazing way to start the season for Frisky 721 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: Bill's team that will be playing I I sincerely believe 722 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: this will be playing meaningly meeting full football after Thanksgiving. 723 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you one question. I was seeing reports 724 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: that Devin Singletary wasn't even on the field until like 725 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: midway through the third or fourth quarter and then all 726 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Bills were moving the ball. Was 727 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: he a big factor that will change? Yes? He had 728 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: nine touches fore yards. Every time the ball is in 729 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 1: his hands, whether it was handoff or as a receiver, 730 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: he was making guys miss and Frank Gore, we all 731 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: love the inconvenient truth, and he'll he's fine, has a 732 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: change of pace guy, and maybe near the goal line. 733 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: But Singletary needs to be part of this offense more. 734 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: Um and I I cannot stress when you guys watches 735 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: on game pass. Look at the difference in this game, Uh, 736 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: when C. J. Mosley is in and when he's out, 737 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: because Mosley played as good a game on defense as 738 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: I've seen a Jet since Pete Reeves. He what was 739 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: they It was a groin injury. I don't know the 740 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: severity of it. But he came out of the game 741 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: in the third quarter and that was it and they 742 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 1: just sliced him up. He's also the defensive play caller. Uh. 743 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: And it did this game to me Um from a 744 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: Jet standpoint two ghosts of Jet's passed and Jet's present 745 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: that conspired to blow a game that you can't blow 746 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: and might just might just ruin their season. I'll get 747 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: to that at the end of this discussion. But um, 748 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: they don't have any depth on this team. So when 749 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: something like a Mosley goes out, someone like him Mosley 750 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: and they have good talent. They have frontline talent on 751 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball. And when you look at it, 752 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: just like, oh, I could see where this team, you 753 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: know they can make a run. But if if that 754 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: goes awry, if someone goes down, they just don't seem 755 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 1: to have the depth. And it happened in the secondary 756 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: two in this game with injuries, but mostly in the 757 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: middle and this one and then so that's on Mike mccagnet. 758 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: That's the ghost of the past. And then Joe Douglas, 759 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 1: who everyone that loves the Jets is excited about Joe 760 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: Douglas as am I. But they've botched this kicker situation 761 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 1: so badly. And Carrie Vedvic misses an extra point after 762 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 1: Mosley pick six in the first half. He it's not 763 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: a great snap, but misses a forty yard attempt at 764 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: the end of the first half. The Jets lose by 765 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: one point do the math, so it was a very 766 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: Jets loss. Crushing I can't tell you how crushing this 767 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: loss was. My dad on text he texted to me 768 00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: and my brother Kevin and my brother in law Keith Um. 769 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: He said, I just can't take it anymore. My dad 770 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 1: is never texted like that, but that was the nature 771 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: of the devastation after offseason of hype, and that's I 772 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: think there was more hope coming into this week one 773 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: than in a long time for your dad. They had 774 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: a chance to seal this game late and the drive 775 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 1: fizzled out. Where Sam Donald in this game? Do you 776 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,800 Speaker 1: feel like he showing you something or is there more 777 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: more to go here? Donald and Adam Gates was pretty 778 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: up front about it after the game. He said there 779 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: were things for improvements to be made by Donald, but 780 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 1: he was never comfortable in this game because the offensive 781 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: line got worked over by a very good Bills front seven. 782 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to take away from the Bills here 783 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,279 Speaker 1: because um Josh Allen, who had four turnovers in the 784 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: first half to two fumbles, including a box snap on 785 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: a fourth and one, two interceptions, but he pulled it together, 786 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: made big time throws in the second half during that 787 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: comeback on those through three drives, scored a touchdown with 788 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: his legs, which we know he's gonna do. And the 789 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: Bill defense when it came time to lock it down 790 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: and to get stops to get them back in the game. 791 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: And then the Jets got the ball back with three 792 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: minutes to play down one point and struggled. They needed 793 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 1: four downs to get ten yards in one inch and 794 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: then went four and out. And that and that is. Yes, 795 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: Adam Gaye's offense needs work. And again week one without 796 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: preseason and all that the offensive line, that's something to 797 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: keeping keep in mind. But the Bills defense really won 798 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, I'm excited to watch this game more closely. 799 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 1: The Bills defense, you are is, We're We've been talking 800 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 1: about it all off season how good this Bill's defense 801 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,560 Speaker 1: could be. But it's really hard to lose the game 802 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: where you win the turnover margin plus three times, you 803 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 1: have to uh be miserable offensively, and they were. They 804 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: were as bad as the Bears were the other night. 805 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: They were as bad as any team really in the 806 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,560 Speaker 1: league was. They averaged three point four yards per pass. 807 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,760 Speaker 1: So whether that's the line or Donald or Gays or 808 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: all of the above, and that's you just can't you 809 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 1: can't win a game where you're averaging three point four 810 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: yards per pass. It's a cruel twist of irony that 811 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 1: the man who staked out Kicker corner before anyone else 812 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: was paying attention to this crucial NFL position is now 813 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,279 Speaker 1: being undone by that is that is the nature of 814 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 1: being a Jets bean Chris Wesley, all these ironies, they 815 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: are always cruel, and they come down upon you like 816 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: an avalanche. And I just have to live with that. 817 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 1: Levy on Bell, by the way, it should be noted 818 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: he was not the problem. He didn't have a monster game, 819 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: but he looked like Leby on Bell. You'll see that 820 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,520 Speaker 1: when you watch the tape. And he also had a 821 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: touchdown catch and a two point conversion on a beautiful 822 00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 1: scramble and toss by Donald count How many times if 823 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: you do a shot, you'll get drunk and end up 824 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: in the hospital, So I don't do that. How many 825 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,439 Speaker 1: times the Jets throw short of the sticks in this game. 826 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: I think it was a product ad to Adam gay Staple, 827 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: And if Adam has a reputation, it's way too many 828 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: short passes and a lot of throw shorts. But he 829 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,640 Speaker 1: was hired to correct that issue for I wonder though. 830 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: I wonder because Donald did take a lot of deep 831 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: shots last year under a terrible offensive coordinator. Uh I 832 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: wonder if there were such concern about the ability to 833 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 1: protect him that that was part of the game plan. 834 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: Didn't work. But we'll see in week two when the 835 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns come to the Medal ends on Monday night. 836 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: Why does it have to be this way? Mark? I 837 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: don't know. Let's move on third down and three from 838 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 1: a Ravens SEVN team marking from seths toil Roy Jackson 839 00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: wants to throw has all day going deep down the 840 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: middle of the field. Look at for Hollywood Brown. He's 841 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: taught up Tomphins thirty like Race twenty, and he's gonna 842 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: store Hollywood Brown his second touchdown on his second catch 843 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: of the NFL. My god, eighty three yards and the 844 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 1: Ravens are on fire. If this is not an evolution, this, 845 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: to John Harball's words, is a revolution. Jerry Sandusky and 846 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: Jared Johnson w b a L with the call Lamar 847 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: Jackson destroyed the Miami Dolphins. The South Florida native tied 848 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 1: to franchise record with five TV passes, and the Ravens 849 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: Waltz to a at the stadium formerly known as Joe 850 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: Robbie Greg. This was an outrageous mismatch from the jump. 851 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: But you know, let me now get out of the way. 852 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 1: You could do your sexy man dance to your boy Lamar. 853 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: Are we watching a few thousand nineteen version of Patrick Mahomes? 854 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 1: Is this his blast off into an amazing year two? 855 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: He's so unique. I wouldn't compare him to anyone. I 856 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: didn't know you think of sexy what it is? I mean, 857 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 1: it was your attempting it. That was definitely not attempting it. 858 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,399 Speaker 1: It was as sexy a football game as you could 859 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: you could have because they get out there and I 860 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: give their entire organization so much credit for coming up 861 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: with a plan to build around Greg Roman, with running 862 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: backs with mark Ingram and Gus Edwards in Justice Hill, 863 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,280 Speaker 1: and then the speed that they have on the outside. 864 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: First play the game is at marking room forty nine 865 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,279 Speaker 1: yard run. The next run is in eleven yard run. 866 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,359 Speaker 1: They have a direct snap to Ingram in that first drive. 867 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: The long touchdowns that they had are set up by 868 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,400 Speaker 1: the play action because they're they're bringing a second safety 869 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 1: down into the box. They're only having one deep teams 870 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 1: are saying, beat us deep, Lamar Jackson, we dare you, 871 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna be honking that. Okay, this is the Dolphins, 872 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 1: fair fair point. But the throws that Lamar Jackson made 873 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 1: are beautiful throws against any NFL competition. There were a 874 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: few tosses into a bucket over the top of the defense, 875 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 1: one to Mark andrews Uh, the touchdown that we saw 876 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,439 Speaker 1: to Hollywood Brown, even the first touchdown to Hollywood Brown. 877 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 1: He hits them right in slide on, in stride on 878 00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: a slamp. Everyone played about as perfect as possible. It 879 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,600 Speaker 1: was a smart move by them to schedule. You know, 880 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,040 Speaker 1: you see Davis for week one. They'll have to play 881 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: like a Division one competition later. But you know it's 882 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,120 Speaker 1: the nice little win. Forty two to three. At half time, 883 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: let's hear from Lamar Jackson, who, of course, there's been 884 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: a lot of made of Oh yeah, he could run 885 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,840 Speaker 1: and and he made some plays as a rookie, but 886 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,720 Speaker 1: is this guy complete quarterback? Well he was feeling himself 887 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: after the games. He should be, do you think you 888 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: people that's probably not but not bad for running. But 889 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: oh but yeah, did a great job. I didn't have 890 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,319 Speaker 1: I barely had pressure. Um, he was did a great 891 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 1: job of getting open, catching the ball down. That's what 892 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,480 Speaker 1: it's all about, and that's what we did, Tod. That's 893 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: how you make people shut up. He's got some I 894 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,680 Speaker 1: think he's just got that confidence that makes people around 895 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: him like him. And if he has more performances like this, 896 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Here's my question to you. 897 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: It's too exciting. Were the Ravens so impressive in this 898 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 1: game that we should I should make them or Mark 899 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: or whoever the number one game pass choice, despite the 900 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: presence of the miserable Dolphins. I think so. I think 901 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: I think that they made a blowout entertaining. I mean, halftime, 902 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 1: it's forty two to three, and by then the game's over. 903 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:58,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, there were so many great players, Mark Andrews, 904 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: Justice Hill, I mean, there was a lot to kind 905 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,279 Speaker 1: of Thomas, Earl Thomas with a big interception. I mean, 906 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick had no chance in this game. The Ravens 907 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,880 Speaker 1: defense played almost as well as the offense. They outgained 908 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: them sixty three to two hundred. At one point it 909 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: was it was three hundred fifty and ran but he 910 00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: actually I honestly thought Iran fitz Patrick and maybe I 911 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: have to watch the game a little closer. I thought 912 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 1: he played kind of well. I really did, and like 913 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: the and that's how that's how bad the rest of 914 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: the Dolphins were. I think it's a it's a great 915 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: sign that you could get this kind of a game 916 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: from Lamar Jackson and the offense when Lamar Jackson is 917 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: not facing a lot of pressure and Dolphins are not. 918 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,560 Speaker 1: When you're putting up six hundred plus yards in the 919 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,239 Speaker 1: NFL and this kind of outpoint of points. It was halftime, 920 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: they put up forty two. Cleveland's getting buried, and I 921 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: just started to think to myself, it is time to 922 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 1: shift towards personal goals and away from the achievements of 923 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 1: other men, because this is not working out for the 924 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: vicarious person watching tells you it's gonna is start taking 925 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: a ton of H G H, start liftings, just get 926 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: just become a totally different. I mean, I don't know 927 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: if athletic goals are the person don't this whole thing. 928 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: It's like you, it is a vast joke. But the 929 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: but the ravens about I don't know how you could 930 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: author a more dangerous, compelling start the Dolphins. I mean, 931 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 1: it's just it's terrible and sleepless nights for Glorious Stefan, 932 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 1: all of the Miami Sound Machine and the rest of 933 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 1: the ownership group. I mean, this is the type of situation. 934 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: It cannot happen. You can't have your team get to 935 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: the point. I don't care about your organic fish tank. 936 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 1: You cannot let it get to the point where you 937 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: have people pay to see your team and come to 938 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: your stadium and then you're down to three early in 939 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,320 Speaker 1: the third quarter? What are doesn't quarter? By the way, 940 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 1: that's not any hope. He's not start a lot of 941 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: third quarters. That sounds your number one goal. As an organization, 942 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: you cannot take hope away from the fan base. And 943 00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: I've said that over the years about my Jets, have 944 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: said about your Browns mar you can't do that. And 945 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: you could fish tank and and maybe in a couple 946 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: of years end up being good and then everybody will 947 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 1: look back and say that was the right move. I 948 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 1: don't buy it. I don't think this is how you 949 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,360 Speaker 1: run a sports team. I hate this trend over the 950 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 1: last half decade that the only thing that matters is 951 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 1: putting yourself in the best position possible to ultimately win 952 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,560 Speaker 1: a championship. That's not the only thing that matters. Only 953 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: one team per year can win a championship, and maintaining 954 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:30,720 Speaker 1: your fans interest throughout a season matters. Playing interesting football matters. 955 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: It's worth something. People, Hey, good money, the money that 956 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: even things they can't afford to come see you. You 957 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: can't put this out there Browns fans that that The 958 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: issue though, is Browns fans I think would disagree. I no, no, no, no, no, no. 959 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,840 Speaker 1: Let's say it doesn't work necessarily. You guys can go 960 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: ahead and go No. I'm saying the Browns have not 961 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,640 Speaker 1: guaranteed themselves a championship by town, but they're happy they 962 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 1: have there. But Steven Ross, you don't have to tank 963 00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,400 Speaker 1: to rebuild tanks for a hundred years, have been building 964 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: without taste. Is then I have no problem though, and 965 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: this is a disaster after Week one for the Dolphins. 966 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: With trying something different in the NFL, especially for certain 967 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: teams that have struggled for decades, and that is the Dolphins. 968 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,480 Speaker 1: They've they've really never been a remarkable team. I like 969 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 1: the idea of trying something different in terms of team planning. 970 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 1: My problem is that you're asking a coaching staff and 971 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: a flock of players who aren't here for the full rebuilding. 972 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna get rid of half of these players a 973 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: week tweak. It's it's not a personal goal. If you're 974 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 1: at You're involving hundreds of people and it's a big ask. 975 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: My old boss, Mike Florio reported that agents Plural received 976 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,879 Speaker 1: you know, texts and calls from their players after this 977 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: game saying we want It's embarrassing for them. That's not 978 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: how it should be. And it's I'm not putting them 979 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: out on the players. I'm saying you've created such a 980 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 1: bad situation that that's how your locker room is. I mean, 981 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: it's what happened. Feel bad for handsome. So what happens 982 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: when you trade for the the guy who was like 983 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: the couldn't be the left Texans left tackle and just 984 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: put him in your lineup in week one? All right, 985 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: let's move on second and ten from the Falcons nineteen. 986 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: Galvin Cook is the jailback feeling the motion to the right. 987 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,479 Speaker 1: Now in motion tactical left handoff Galvin sprint salt would 988 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:22,920 Speaker 1: be left. It's a blood front feeling, a touchdown. Galvin 989 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:27,880 Speaker 1: Cook wouldn't the Viking second touchdown today and in zero 990 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:32,879 Speaker 1: Vikings Paul Allen the Vikings Radio Network, Dalvin Cook went 991 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: off for one eleven and two touches. Kirk Cousins threw 992 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: the ball just eleven times and the Vikings defense handled 993 00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: the rest. They dominant win over the Falcons at home. 994 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: Uh Anthony Harris had two interceptions in a fumble recovery 995 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,239 Speaker 1: for the Vikings city, which had no problem shutting down 996 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, not to Freeman and the rest of the 997 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: Falcon's offense West. After last year's disappointment, this had to 998 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: be an ultra satisfying start for Skull. Yeah, Cousins only 999 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,640 Speaker 1: throws a ten times and after the game, Adam Feelan 1000 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 1: says that Dalvin Cook, you're seeing that he's not only 1001 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: a great running back, he might be the best one 1002 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: in the best I don't know if I go that far. 1003 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: With Zeke Elliott still in the league in Sae Kwon Barkley, 1004 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 1: but Dalvin Cook has looked since preseason started like a 1005 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: different running back this year. In Gary Kubiack scheme, I 1006 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 1: think it's perfect for him. This looks like a different 1007 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: offense and the defense looked phenomenal that they the Falcons 1008 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. A miserable game for the Falcons. Who 1009 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: Caleb McGarry, the right tackle who missed most of August Um, 1010 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: just looked about three steps too slow to be dealing 1011 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: with Daniel Hunter. They rotated him with Tyson Browlow. And 1012 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 1: it's to be expected that a rookie is gonna look 1013 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,800 Speaker 1: slow against Daniel Hunter, who is one of the fastest 1014 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,080 Speaker 1: defensive ends in the league. Uh and then there are 1015 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,160 Speaker 1: other rookie Chris Lyndstrom, first round pick. After the game, 1016 00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: Jake Glazer reported that they fear he fractured his foot. 1017 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: So you've got The biggest question to me about the 1018 00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,719 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons going into the season was their offensive line, 1019 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: and it's an even bigger question heading into week two. 1020 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,839 Speaker 1: Week one asked to go to Minnesota and face this 1021 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: veteran defense, but I'm sort of floored that they didn't 1022 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 1: score until nine minutes left in the game, like the 1023 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons under Matt Ryan, I don't know, like how unusual. 1024 00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: I can't did Matt Ryan look like Matt Ryan? Turnovers turnovers, 1025 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: but turnover is caused by pressure. I mean, Ryan did 1026 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: not look like the best version of Matt Ryan. No, 1027 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: it was not a good performance in Xavier Rhodes, who 1028 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: greg you questioned because he did have a bag year 1029 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: last year, that's fair to say that, But he shut 1030 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,320 Speaker 1: down Julio Jones today until garbage time. I mean, this 1031 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: feels like a Mike Zimmer dreamland fantasy from outer space, 1032 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: like you're throwing the ball ten times, and I don't 1033 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's what Kirk cousin wants, but 1034 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: he's got to like it a lot better than what 1035 00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: was happening last year, where he was running for his 1036 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: life and there was no flow to the office that 1037 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: he hasn't thrown that few passes since Pop Warner. Well 1038 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: for Pop Warner, by the way, ten is that's an 1039 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,240 Speaker 1: air raid for Pop Horner. But Rudolf after the game again, 1040 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: another elder high school graduate Panthers said, we're gonna celebrate 1041 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: the NFL's hundred the year by setting the game back 1042 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: a hundred years with our offense. I don't know, I 1043 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 1: mean it work today is that it's always gonna be like, hey, Dan, 1044 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 1: you you called this a top five, three or one offense. Yes, 1045 00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: I did, And uh, you know what I think they 1046 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,920 Speaker 1: kind of when it's a cruise control. It seems like 1047 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:27,080 Speaker 1: from a yeah, this game, this game was in hand 1048 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: in the first half. What about DeVonta Freeman? Not just 1049 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: it was it baked into all the other issues in 1050 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: a bad fumble. And I do think that the offensive 1051 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 1: line was such an issue and you're playing a good 1052 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: defense too. I didn't get enough of a view of 1053 00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,200 Speaker 1: of Devonte Freeman to make any grand proclamations about how 1054 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: he looked. All right, let's move sound, look he lets 1055 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 1: all the way, he tries to go line. He's got 1056 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:57,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Hicky touched down and Hick contract extensions this week. 1057 00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:04,640 Speaker 1: Connect for the score with six ago it la. That's 1058 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: our boy. Jblong, good dude, wess neighbor and plugged in. 1059 00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: He's not a guy that shows up with the lunch 1060 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: pail on Sunday and doesn't know what happened the six 1061 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 1: days before. No, he's on it. Jared Goff connected on 1062 00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: a touchdown past the Tyler Higbee, Goff's only scoring throw 1063 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: on a quiet day. And Todd Gurley flashed when the 1064 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: Rams needed him most and at seven win over the 1065 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: Panthers in Charlotte. Greg Gurley didn't carry the load for 1066 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 1: the Rams on Sunday, but this was still positive for 1067 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: running back who needed one. It was so positive. I 1068 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,520 Speaker 1: think the Rams couldn't have drawn up a better win 1069 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 1: because you go on the road, you beat a really 1070 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: good NFC team, and you do it by pounding the 1071 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,880 Speaker 1: rock late, which I know they want to do. They 1072 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,360 Speaker 1: had a hundred and sixty six yards. They face some adversity, 1073 00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,359 Speaker 1: They give up a lead that looked to be in hand, 1074 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 1: only a three point lead in the fourth quarter, and 1075 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: they give the ball to Todd Gurley, who didn't look 1076 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,480 Speaker 1: great in the first half by any means. The running game, 1077 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 1: they're off fends, everything looked like they hadn't played in 1078 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: the preseason. But Gurley ripped off two runs on what 1079 00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,840 Speaker 1: was really the decisive touchdown drive where he looked like 1080 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: the old Todd Gurley. Then there's a third down where 1081 00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: he has one man to be He has to use 1082 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,359 Speaker 1: that vision and patients that we've seen out of him. 1083 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 1: He does it. The Panthers, you know, go right back 1084 00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,360 Speaker 1: down the field, cut it to three again. What do 1085 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,280 Speaker 1: they do? They just hand the ball to Todd Gurley 1086 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 1: two more time and he closes out the game. And 1087 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,879 Speaker 1: I think for a team that came into the week 1088 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 1: with offensive line questions and gurly questions, are loving winning 1089 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,400 Speaker 1: what was sometimes an ugly game. But our two teams 1090 00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,520 Speaker 1: I think are really talented and winning on the road 1091 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 1: is pretty special. Can ask your question, that's that's good 1092 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 1: for the Rams and if I look at a bright 1093 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,359 Speaker 1: spot for the Panthers. We talked we're thrown around best 1094 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: running back in the NFL right now? Is it me? 1095 00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:48,480 Speaker 1: Or does Christian McCaffrey, And he's talked about a lot 1096 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 1: of fantasy, but in real life, I feel like he's 1097 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:55,080 Speaker 1: not brought into this discussion enough. Two hundred plus total yards, 1098 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: ten catches, eighty one through the air, nineteen rushes at 1099 00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:03,160 Speaker 1: six point seven for Carrie with two touchdowns superstar. I 1100 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: thought it was one of, if not the best game 1101 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: he's ever played, which is is a strong statement because 1102 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 1: he's had other stat lines like this, But I felt 1103 00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: like a lot of this was on his own and 1104 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: we used to We always joke about, you know, whether 1105 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: he can run between the tackles. That was the question 1106 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 1: going into the last year. But I don't know. I 1107 00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 1: think he might be going to another level of his 1108 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: ability to run between the tackles because he ran up 1109 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 1: a couple of people, including on the goal line up 1110 00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,840 Speaker 1: play that really reminded me of Alvin Kamara, where he 1111 00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: showed great balance. He took a strong tackle at the 1112 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 1: two yard line and then just kept driving his legs forward. 1113 00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: He had I don't know what the percentage, it's over 1114 00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: sixty percent of the team's yards. I mean they were 1115 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: held to three. He had two ten himself. What was 1116 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: the old Dion Jordan's line. It looked like somebody inflated 1117 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 1: his shoulder pads. Right, He's a big boy. He looks 1118 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,799 Speaker 1: like Manaffrey Um. You know. Cam Newton average about six 1119 00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 1: yards attempt, didn't throw a touchdown. How did he look? 1120 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 1: I thought he look good in the first half. The 1121 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: Panthers outplayed him the Rams and were down by tenant halftime, 1122 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: and Newton kind of seemed like he was getting rid 1123 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,279 Speaker 1: of the ball quickly. Did not play that great in 1124 00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 1: the second half. Their offensive line, I thought was a problem. 1125 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,240 Speaker 1: We keep saying this in every game, but their communication. 1126 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: It's a lot of new guys or guys in different places. 1127 00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: They were missing Greg Little who had a concussion as well, 1128 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 1: and there were a lot of plays where Wade Phillips 1129 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 1: and the Rams front did stunts and they just like, 1130 00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: we're not picking up the right guy, like Christian McCaffrey 1131 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: was trying to block Dante Fowler or Clay Matthews just 1132 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,640 Speaker 1: gotten free with no one blocking him, and they just 1133 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: seemed like they were all scrambled. And it was a 1134 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: good day for Wait, so Curtis Samuel three for thirty two, 1135 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: and they said that Cam Newton didn't even try a 1136 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 1: deep shot down field. Are you there were anything going 1137 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,800 Speaker 1: on with it with there wasn't deep, But there were 1138 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,840 Speaker 1: two plays to Samuel where he could have had a 1139 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: much better fantasy day. And those were two throws that 1140 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: Newton missed. They were touch throws. No, his arm looks strong. 1141 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 1: He had a he had a third and long out 1142 00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,880 Speaker 1: across the field that looked like ditch Cam. But it 1143 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: wasn't his best game. I see three rushes for negative 1144 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,360 Speaker 1: two yards. I guess he's just a little bit of 1145 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 1: a different player now, or maybe they're just working them 1146 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 1: in slowly. Remember that happening last year. That's a really 1147 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,120 Speaker 1: good point. They didn't even sniff trying to run do 1148 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: a called run for him at all, which is a 1149 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: very different Cam Newton than we saw in the Padre 1150 00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: was also the quietest and Aaron Donald game I've ever seen, 1151 00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: just about and and they still win it like there's 1152 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,160 Speaker 1: no offense in the first half, a lot in the second. 1153 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,000 Speaker 1: And if people like me were wondering if the Rams 1154 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:32,800 Speaker 1: were gonna do some different stuff this year, they didn't. 1155 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they played those three receivers every single every 1156 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: single down. Basically, they didn't play Darrell Henderson the rookie 1157 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: at all that Malcolm Brown got good run as as girlies. 1158 00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: They were one of the teams that we needed to 1159 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,440 Speaker 1: see a regular season game from to put some of 1160 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,120 Speaker 1: these offseason questions in there. These two teams kind of 1161 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 1: look like two teams that are already Okay, these are 1162 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: the teams we see. They're kind of what we expect, 1163 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,480 Speaker 1: and I think they're both going to be good. Brian 1164 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,000 Speaker 1: Burns look good for the Panthers. All right, let's move on. 1165 00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: We have our first hie of the season. Murray and 1166 00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: the Gun Cardinals down Johnson. Now why do the right 1167 00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,480 Speaker 1: so it's an empty backfield, Cardinals can tie it here. 1168 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 1: Shotguns that Murray back to path grows to the lap 1169 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: and it's caught by Kirk hated the end, zonaver tied. 1170 00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: That's twenty four some Murray magic down the stretch for 1171 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: Arizona day Pash and you know he's the little fan 1172 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,160 Speaker 1: ron Wolfie of the Arizona Cardinals radio network. Kyler Murray 1173 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: rally the Cardinals back from six down to force overtime. 1174 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 1: That's the two point con virgin you just heard. Uh 1175 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,040 Speaker 1: and Arizona and Detroit traded ot Field goals a twenty 1176 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 1: seven twenty seven tie. Kiss you, sister, doesn't feel good, 1177 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,040 Speaker 1: does it? Nobody likes to kiss that sister. Murray and 1178 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,360 Speaker 1: Kingsbury um look completely lost for three quarters west but 1179 00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: then they got it going. Their longest gain late in 1180 01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: by late in the third quarter was twelve yards. Cliff 1181 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Kingsbury said the first half was one of the worst 1182 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: displays of offensive football he's ever seen. Kyler Murray have 1183 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: four batted passes in this game. Kirk Cousins led the 1184 01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,320 Speaker 1: NFL last year was seventeen all seasons, so this is 1185 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: an issue. Then again, the Lions let the Cardinals back 1186 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 1: in the game. Kyler Murray looked great in the fourth 1187 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: quarter in overtime, and he showed I believe uh impeccable 1188 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: touch in accuracy on a couple of deep balls. To me, 1189 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the turning point in this game was Larry Fitzgerald, on 1190 01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: a play that nobody saw because they hadn't tuned into 1191 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 1: the game yet, sold out for a ball thirty yards 1192 01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: down field when they could not move the ball at all. 1193 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: He just absolutely sold out on a dive like he's 1194 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 1: been doing for fifteen years, and it brought life to 1195 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. It gave his quarterback confidence and his Larry 1196 01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald doing Larry Fitzald. It was such a quintessential diving 1197 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: Fitzgerald play where he goes all out, belly flops, his 1198 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: two elbows hit the turf first, he holds onto the 1199 01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,240 Speaker 1: ball because he never drops the ball, and he makes 1200 01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: a big play when the team needs him most. You 1201 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: know it is a tie. But if I'm a Cardinals 1202 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,280 Speaker 1: fan and we have a friend Jason Zumwald, who we 1203 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,280 Speaker 1: were actually Dan and I texting with, were the three 1204 01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:19,600 Speaker 1: of us, we're discussing a packed like a triple Earth 1205 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: removal scenario. But I think Zumwald and other Cardinals fans 1206 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 1: should feel encouraged because sometimes a tie is a win 1207 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 1: because what this did in a way, it buried a 1208 01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 1: week's where let they were down twenty four to six. 1209 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,800 Speaker 1: Let's say it just had wound up finished right there. 1210 01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: Everyone is telling you that everything that they planned to 1211 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: do this offseason and there and Kyler Murray and Cliff 1212 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,720 Speaker 1: Kingsbury as you call him K one and K two 1213 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: is a gigantic disaster and needs to be recycled immediately. 1214 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Instead all those stories and probably a ton of articles 1215 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 1: I specialized in this. You write the article you're d 1216 01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,280 Speaker 1: words in and the game changes and you wasted your 1217 01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: time and you wasted thelon's time. Not anymore. But I'm 1218 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,360 Speaker 1: just saying, like, how many of those articles were being, 1219 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, cooked up by these hot takers and they're 1220 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,160 Speaker 1: out because they came back and tied the game. And 1221 01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:09,240 Speaker 1: there's some it was so bad. The performance was so 1222 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,760 Speaker 1: bad through two and a half quarters that even if 1223 01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,280 Speaker 1: you're a fan, in the back of your mind, you're thinking, 1224 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:19,200 Speaker 1: is Kyler Murray too short? It's Kingsbury in over his head. 1225 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,360 Speaker 1: Have we drafted a quarterback in the first round two 1226 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: years in a row that will not click? In the 1227 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:26,040 Speaker 1: NFL circles, there were Cardinals fans tweeting me. I guess 1228 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,800 Speaker 1: we'll be drafting another quarterback number one overall next year. 1229 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,440 Speaker 1: These are this is yeah, this is week one, and 1230 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: this game especially feels like a week one game where 1231 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,640 Speaker 1: there are two offenses that haven't played under their current 1232 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: coordinators at all. It's a rookie quarterback and the fourth 1233 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,919 Speaker 1: quarters so bizarre. You know. I don't know if that's 1234 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: fatigue or if it's a coaching failure by the lines 1235 01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 1: or what it is, but it's just I want to 1236 01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: see these two teams again. It's a massive, massive disappointment. 1237 01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm with you, but but they're the line. They have 1238 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: to stack win and you gotta win that. And when 1239 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 1: you're I just want to say that there's a huge 1240 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: portion of NFL fans that are not baked into eighteen 1241 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: seasons where they do freak out over Week one. And 1242 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:15,360 Speaker 1: if you watch your team, it's not every fan's job 1243 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,919 Speaker 1: to not respond emotionally to Week one. It just isn't. 1244 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 1: It's just they they go do their work week and 1245 01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:22,120 Speaker 1: they come in. If you see your team get torched, 1246 01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,120 Speaker 1: of course you're gonna respond emotionally. You're not going to 1247 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: have a stoic approach to it. I'm talking about my 1248 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: approach of like what what these teams are gonna be? 1249 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 1: Like I I don't know if this tells us anything 1250 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 1: about the Cardinals, Like did they show you anything that 1251 01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,000 Speaker 1: was just creative? That's no, No, I don't like what. 1252 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't like what the Lions did down the stretch 1253 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 1: and eight point And we talked to this on the 1254 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,160 Speaker 1: preview episode. This is the line's upcoming schedule home Chargers 1255 01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:50,520 Speaker 1: at Eagles, home, Chiefs at Packers home. Vikings have to 1256 01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,600 Speaker 1: win this game. This was such an important game, so 1257 01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: or you don't. Sometimes a week one game isn't just 1258 01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,040 Speaker 1: one game. It's it can really hurt your season, and 1259 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 1: because it sets you off on a really bad trajectory. 1260 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 1: A loss isn't as bad as you know, tie isn't 1261 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 1: as bad as a loss, but this is pretty damn bad. 1262 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,080 Speaker 1: If you're a Lion has had a few of these 1263 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 1: types of games, it's it's painful because I can't overstate 1264 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 1: how much the Cardinals were out classed. It looked like 1265 01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,200 Speaker 1: they were in a lower league than the Lions for 1266 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: three quarters. And the one positive for the Lions is 1267 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: they have a stud tight ending to eat T. J. 1268 01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: Hawkins and this guy is the truth all Let's move 1269 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: up first and twenty now from the forty four of 1270 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,600 Speaker 1: the Bengals in motion, has Benette back out to the 1271 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:33,720 Speaker 1: right side. Russell from the shotgun the penny in the 1272 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: backfield play back aga. Russell has time, rolls, stops, telling 1273 01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: Luck has it catch touch up? Why should find? Russell 1274 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,760 Speaker 1: rolls right and they pull this one out of tricks 1275 01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:56,440 Speaker 1: a forty four yards strike for knowing Tyler Marget And 1276 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 1: I was just about to ask game how many patches 1277 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:05,720 Speaker 1: is after day one? For out of touch Steve Rabel, 1278 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 1: the Seahawks Radio net, Jaunty Seahawks Studio Network, Russell Wilson, 1279 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,520 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett forty four yards the pay dirt first play 1280 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, and the Seahawks withstood a career day 1281 01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 1: from Andy Dalton in a one to twenty victory. Uh 1282 01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,120 Speaker 1: at the clink? Is it still? The clinks? Still the clink? Right? 1283 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Shoall always be the clink? Okay good? Dalton through for 1284 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: four eighteen yards. That is a career high. John Rosscott 1285 01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: caught two touchdowns about that west, but the Seahawks were 1286 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: able to hold on and get it done. Mark not 1287 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: the most dominant effort. I think people predicted the Seahawks 1288 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,160 Speaker 1: winning this one going away, but they won. If I'm 1289 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:47,600 Speaker 1: not mistaken, I believe in Greg's picks column, did you 1290 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,240 Speaker 1: get the exact score to this game? Or am I am? 1291 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: I I thought you have you had this Goose said 1292 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 1: that our social media friend I didn't confirm it. I 1293 01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,560 Speaker 1: had at one point when I know that for the Seahawks, 1294 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,080 Speaker 1: well you, I would say you came closer than most 1295 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 1: and I and I've been really rough on on the 1296 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: Bengals and I would look at them right now and again, 1297 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,760 Speaker 1: we get it. Very lot can change, but in a 1298 01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:12,480 Speaker 1: tough environment against a team that is has never lost 1299 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: a game in September at home since two thousand and ten, 1300 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:18,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals showed up number one on defense. I thought 1301 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 1: that they played one of the best, and they were 1302 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,320 Speaker 1: good on defense before the injuries hit last year, and 1303 01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:25,800 Speaker 1: they seemed to me to be come in and it 1304 01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:30,520 Speaker 1: was guys like Carlos Dunlap, Nick Vigil, Drake Kirkpatrick played 1305 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: a great game, Sam Hubbard, they put they put the 1306 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: clamps on Seattle early. And Andy Dalton obviously someone that 1307 01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 1: historically you know the ceiling, we put it right at 1308 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 1: the middle of the league at the Dalton line, and 1309 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 1: everyone's kind of surpassed him. I I think that with 1310 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,600 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, I saw a completely different player in one area. 1311 01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 1: He got rid of the ball quickly in this game, 1312 01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 1: and suddenly he winds up with four hundred and eighteen 1313 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. And it wasn't perfect, but they 1314 01:06:58,200 --> 01:06:59,840 Speaker 1: didn't have a J. Green, And I feel like the 1315 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,320 Speaker 1: benchmark scenario for the Bengals in the passes when a J. 1316 01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,960 Speaker 1: Green is not on the field, Dalton starts to do 1317 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 1: Dalton things and the team melts. There was a scenario 1318 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,080 Speaker 1: here three drives in a row where I think they 1319 01:07:12,080 --> 01:07:14,800 Speaker 1: gave the game away if you're if you're Cincinnati. There 1320 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: was in a pouring rain, Dalton lost the ball on 1321 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: a wind up. Then they had Randy Bullock miss a 1322 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: field goal he should have hit, and then Gio Bernard 1323 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 1: got stuffed on downs when they should have scored points. 1324 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: There are three red zone drives in this game where 1325 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 1: the Bengals came away with no points that hurt him 1326 01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: a lot. And then Russell Wilson and you got dk 1327 01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,440 Speaker 1: Metcalf who had wound up with eighty nine yards and 1328 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,800 Speaker 1: a big forty two yard that set up a Chris 1329 01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:41,000 Speaker 1: Carson catch and run for a touchdown, and he had 1330 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,640 Speaker 1: another big, leaping grap. You saw his size and his 1331 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 1: ability as an athlete made a difference in this game. 1332 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,560 Speaker 1: Seattle through a lot of weird weather. It was pouring 1333 01:07:49,640 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 1: rain at one point, and I loved it. I love 1334 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: seeing this insane insane. It was kind of like you've 1335 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 1: been there in the summer when you get caught out 1336 01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: in the woods and then just suddenly the rain is 1337 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,520 Speaker 1: on you and all your clothes are soaking wet, and 1338 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,400 Speaker 1: you have no where your house is that kind of rain, 1339 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 1: and then suddenly it's like a bright sunlight two minutes. 1340 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it was in Los Angeles, but it was. 1341 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,480 Speaker 1: It was a game where the I thought the elements 1342 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,360 Speaker 1: played a factor at one point. And you know, this 1343 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 1: was not the greatest Russell Wilson game of all time. 1344 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 1: They put they put a lot of pressure on them, 1345 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,759 Speaker 1: but they fought out in Cincinnati with a few less 1346 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,519 Speaker 1: close out, a few more drives. And this is not 1347 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,479 Speaker 1: the team that I thought they were that's gonna go 1348 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,800 Speaker 1: four and twelve and get smacked every week. It was 1349 01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 1: quite an impressive filibuster everybody market. But well no, because 1350 01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 1: you know what, here's the thing, because sometimes in football 1351 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,320 Speaker 1: games you can't see the rain the way the camera 1352 01:08:39,360 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 1: angle is. They had the camera was talking more of 1353 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,639 Speaker 1: the whole thing, but they had the camera at field 1354 01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,280 Speaker 1: level and Dalton at one point is just standing there 1355 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,640 Speaker 1: and you can see each individual downpour drop, And I 1356 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:57,559 Speaker 1: thought it was a cool cinematographic football. After it changed, 1357 01:08:57,600 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: I love any game a change where I thought about 1358 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals I've been to that they made me a 1359 01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,920 Speaker 1: fan for a little bit. Definitely the other team. One 1360 01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 1: of our producers for NFL Network downstairs, um ye, yes, 1361 01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 1: he he really got after you over some comments you've 1362 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,679 Speaker 1: made on this podcast about Cincinnati being a low rent 1363 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:20,920 Speaker 1: organism called them a mom and pop basically a mom 1364 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:26,120 Speaker 1: and pop corner store selling you know, noodles and a 1365 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,240 Speaker 1: red wine. He didn't like. He took this Sunday with 1366 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: the Brown's travesty as a chance to get even and 1367 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,439 Speaker 1: I saw the rage in your eyes. Now you know 1368 01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:37,479 Speaker 1: what it is Every Sunday in our newsroom, someone's going 1369 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 1: to come up and take a shot or they do 1370 01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,639 Speaker 1: the thing. So sorry what happened, but you know, what 1371 01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:45,160 Speaker 1: he I deserved it because I had been ripping into 1372 01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,400 Speaker 1: his team all summer and they showed up today. I 1373 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: noticed all those names you listed on defense, they were 1374 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,960 Speaker 1: on Marvin Luce's defense last year when they were terrible, 1375 01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:57,560 Speaker 1: and the offensive line we thought they were tattered. No, 1376 01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,439 Speaker 1: A J. Green. This has to be for this coaching staff. 1377 01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 1: If you're a Bengals fan, you are truly encouraged to 1378 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 1: put on that kind of performance. I was gonna say, 1379 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,960 Speaker 1: I know it's not. It's not the legion of boom 1380 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,920 Speaker 1: in Seattle anymore, but he played Dalton, played ten years 1381 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,960 Speaker 1: with ten years of Marvin and never threw for four 1382 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 1: hundred ten yards without A J. Green there, absolutely, But 1383 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 1: I think and they should be. We hadn't. We had 1384 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,040 Speaker 1: no idea what we're going to see from either side 1385 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 1: of the ball from Cincinnati. Seattle talked about how they'd 1386 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,880 Speaker 1: be tough to prepare for because their defensive coordinator is 1387 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,040 Speaker 1: a Rumo who I think we've mentioned about three times 1388 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: he's been hired. Uh and they were good on both 1389 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: said that said, I think Bengals fans, if there was 1390 01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:36,560 Speaker 1: a Bengals fan that was a host of this podcast, 1391 01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:41,759 Speaker 1: they'd be saying same old Bengals. They were just saying 1392 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,479 Speaker 1: heartbreak because until the fourth quarter this was this was 1393 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: similar in dominance in yardage as any beat down in 1394 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 1: the entire NFL three hundred and fifty six yards. At 1395 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,400 Speaker 1: one point the Bengals had to one for the Seas. 1396 01:10:54,439 --> 01:10:56,680 Speaker 1: They were beating them like a drum. They were physically 1397 01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,120 Speaker 1: dominated them, and you would love to come away with point. 1398 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 1: It's those To me, it was the defense held up 1399 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:03,720 Speaker 1: as long as they could because you're always gonna get 1400 01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,160 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson surge near the end. It was the 1401 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,960 Speaker 1: offense not closing those drives. But we talked about this 1402 01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: team as a three or four win outfit with no hope, 1403 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 1: and I see the opposite going forward. We'll see for 1404 01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 1: the record, Greg, there will never be a Bengals fan 1405 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,000 Speaker 1: as a host of this podcast. Well who knows, what 1406 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,960 Speaker 1: if we're all what if like we pass it on. 1407 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: It's Greg's interconscious coming out of the Freudian thing again. 1408 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,679 Speaker 1: Somebody else, not me, will be hosting. I said, if 1409 01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 1: there was, I meant, like in another universe where one 1410 01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:36,880 Speaker 1: of us was a Bengals fan. But if you wanted to, 1411 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,920 Speaker 1: you know, spin it forward. What if you know Johnny Wesseling, 1412 01:11:41,479 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 1: who takes over in forty two UH, decides he likes 1413 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,320 Speaker 1: the best. I can assure you that no Westling will 1414 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:52,080 Speaker 1: be a Bengals fan on this podcast. All right, let's 1415 01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: move on controlling Father alert On the other Buckner and 1416 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: armstay day side. Twinston drops out of the shotgun, Ford 1417 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:06,720 Speaker 1: and bosol over and intercepted the killer. Wetherspoon back the 1418 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:16,720 Speaker 1: other way, touchdown, Sam Sister. How many interceptions they have 1419 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,880 Speaker 1: last year? How many pick six they have today? To 1420 01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:25,000 Speaker 1: on opening day and a third interception by Nasato earlier 1421 01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: in the game to pick six is in one day? 1422 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 1: Greg Papa and Tim Ryan of the forty nine Ers 1423 01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:36,920 Speaker 1: Radio Network, Yes, Richard Sherman and Akello Witherspoon returned to 1424 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:43,240 Speaker 1: UH interceptions for touchdowns by Jamis Winston. Robbie Gould had 1425 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 1: three deal goals the nine or thirty one seventeen win 1426 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 1: over the Bucks. On Sunday, Jimmy Garoppolo, in his first 1427 01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 1: game back from a c L surgery, threw for buck 1428 01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,120 Speaker 1: sixty six and a touchdown. He looked okay. He also 1429 01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,840 Speaker 1: threw a pick six. But to me, this story of 1430 01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:05,280 Speaker 1: this game was Jamis Winston, Bruce Arians, of course, and 1431 01:13:05,320 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 1: his his Buck's debut. There's this idea that it will 1432 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,960 Speaker 1: be Arians that gets Winston over the hump, and perhaps 1433 01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,680 Speaker 1: that will happen because this is just one game. But 1434 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:18,719 Speaker 1: on Sunday this looks just more of the same. Winston 1435 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 1: looks good sometimes other times he looks reckless, and his 1436 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:26,320 Speaker 1: mistakes kill his team. And that's why this Bucks team 1437 01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:29,080 Speaker 1: has not won in the years that Jamis Winston has 1438 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:32,679 Speaker 1: been there. I think that's the most disappointing way to start, 1439 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,360 Speaker 1: you know, with a new coach or a new season, 1440 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: is when you just keep repeating the same mistakes that 1441 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,559 Speaker 1: you have just got to or the old season. Because 1442 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: the Bucks defense did a great job. They prevented the 1443 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,320 Speaker 1: they kept the two fifty six yards, and they scored 1444 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 1: seven points on their own, So you can't ask for 1445 01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,919 Speaker 1: a better performance of the Bucks defense. Jamis Winston lost 1446 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 1: the game with those throws. I know that for most 1447 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,800 Speaker 1: of the game the forty Niners offense didn't look that impressive. 1448 01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,680 Speaker 1: Did their defense look it? You know, it gets it 1449 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 1: gets kind of they look fine. I don't think it 1450 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 1: was a great effort on either side of the ball. 1451 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,559 Speaker 1: Really I don't think it was an incredible showing by 1452 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 1: the Niners. I think sorry for giving you this game. 1453 01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 1: By the way, thanks for falling on the grenade. I 1454 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,040 Speaker 1: had to somebody had to take it. I want to 1455 01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: tell you something about I want to tell you something 1456 01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 1: about this game. In the first half, there were four fumbles, 1457 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:27,920 Speaker 1: two interceptions, one block punt, four touchdowns and negated by penalty. 1458 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:31,400 Speaker 1: That you don't see that every day or ever preseason 1459 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 1: Week five. I believe it might have been five four 1460 01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 1: touchdowns negated by penalty. Cameron Braid had two on one 1461 01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 1: two great touchdowns on one drive yes, and George Kittle 1462 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 1: had the other two unbelievable and twelve total penalties in 1463 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,639 Speaker 1: the first half. It was a very sloppy game, uh, 1464 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 1: And neither team to me jumped out and flashed as 1465 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,400 Speaker 1: a team to get wildly excited about at this stage. 1466 01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,080 Speaker 1: But I guess that was just the storyline for me 1467 01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,720 Speaker 1: that Winston. What it would have really been nice for 1468 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 1: win stand here in Week one would have been to 1469 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,240 Speaker 1: have a game where he he just plays like I said, 1470 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,400 Speaker 1: a clean game, makes good decisions, doesn't put his team 1471 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:12,000 Speaker 1: behind the eight ball, doesn't have turnovers that change the 1472 01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:14,519 Speaker 1: complexion of the game, and he it was like we 1473 01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,680 Speaker 1: were watching the same guy over the past. The thing 1474 01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:18,599 Speaker 1: that we said about Tampa Bay was, you know, you're 1475 01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 1: coming off a season or two where from a yardage standpoint, 1476 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: how could you best please try to match what Todd 1477 01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: Munkin and Dirk Hutter did where you are pouring out 1478 01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:32,000 Speaker 1: four hundred yards a game. There were mistakes, So come on, Bruce, 1479 01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,799 Speaker 1: arians reduce the Jamis Winston mistakes and keep the production 1480 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,320 Speaker 1: from guys like O. J. Howard and Chris Godwin, who 1481 01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,280 Speaker 1: we've been talking about for ninety and twenty days. He's 1482 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,679 Speaker 1: held to fifty three yards. I mean Jamis Winston Blake 1483 01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 1: Bortles level turnover scenario over the last couple of years. 1484 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 1: To me, I, this guy's playing for his future. I 1485 01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 1: don't know why you'd possibly, if this continues, go into 1486 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,360 Speaker 1: next year with the same thing. Well, of course, he's 1487 01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,760 Speaker 1: he's he's uh on the last year his contract and 1488 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna need to have a good year, very good 1489 01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,120 Speaker 1: year to come back, and so far he hasn't shown 1490 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen. This is one of the rare 1491 01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 1: or almost the only forty Niners win under Kyle Shanahan 1492 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,559 Speaker 1: where the defense led the way. So if nothing else 1493 01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,360 Speaker 1: that that, I know it was ugly, but that's a positive. 1494 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 1: Boasta got a sack, Armstead got a sack, d Ford 1495 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,200 Speaker 1: got a sack of some of the guys they picked up, 1496 01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 1: showed up and they move on needing better. Jimmy g play. 1497 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 1: How about we move on al right, before we get 1498 01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 1: to Sunday at football of the New England Patriots and 1499 01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,479 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, let's talk about a former Steeler who 1500 01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 1: is now a New England Patriot. We uh, yeah, we 1501 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,400 Speaker 1: didn't get a chance obviously to break this down over 1502 01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:45,639 Speaker 1: the weekend when it broke on Saturday. But yes, after 1503 01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:48,280 Speaker 1: and we don't need to go into the soap opera 1504 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,719 Speaker 1: that led to the end of Antonio Brown with the Raiders. 1505 01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 1: We all know it was a disgrace the way it 1506 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: all played out. Brown gets his release and then a 1507 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,160 Speaker 1: short time later he signs with a New England Patriots, 1508 01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,400 Speaker 1: a one year deal worth up to fifteen million, including 1509 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,880 Speaker 1: a nine million dollars signing bonus, ten million guaranteed and 1510 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:12,280 Speaker 1: five million in incentives. And as we record this, the 1511 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,479 Speaker 1: Patriots have their Sunday Night football game well in hand 1512 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 1: against the Steelers, and it seems like everything is going 1513 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,639 Speaker 1: very well for New England once again on the throne 1514 01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:25,400 Speaker 1: of ease. But one thing that they lost, and I 1515 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,960 Speaker 1: can tell you this because if you saw our text 1516 01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,439 Speaker 1: chain on Saturday afternoon, one thing they lost in this 1517 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 1: was Chris Westling West. You're very upset about this, Uh, 1518 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,600 Speaker 1: share your thoughts about the move. I find it repugnant 1519 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:43,360 Speaker 1: the whole thing, from the Raiders angle with Antonio Brown 1520 01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: to the Patriots brushing aside everything Bill Belichick has ever 1521 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 1: believed about team building to sign this guy who has 1522 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,839 Speaker 1: done more to undermine the team concept than any football 1523 01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:58,519 Speaker 1: player I've ever seen in my life. I find it 1524 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 1: repugnant the Patriots way it for Drew Rosenhouse debate, the 1525 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,720 Speaker 1: mother moond goose out of the hole, They slithered up 1526 01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 1: to the nest. They unhinge their ravenous jaw, and they 1527 01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:12,280 Speaker 1: swallowed Antonio Brown hole. And to next point in my veins, 1528 01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,439 Speaker 1: the NFL has no issue with the snake entering the dan. 1529 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,000 Speaker 1: They have no idea how to dance, how to deal 1530 01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:21,960 Speaker 1: with this brand of social media sabotage that Antonio Brown 1531 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 1: unleashed to get his way to get out of a 1532 01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 1: contract that made him the highest paid receiver in football. Uh. 1533 01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,679 Speaker 1: And I think a strong leader in the NFL would 1534 01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 1: investigate how this happened, these actions and put a premium 1535 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:40,160 Speaker 1: on integrity and competitiveness. Think about if you're the Steelers, 1536 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:41,679 Speaker 1: by the way, and Greg you're gonna get your side 1537 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 1: of this of course as well, and Mark you could 1538 01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 1: chime in as well. Think about from the Steelers perspective, 1539 01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,799 Speaker 1: they owned the rights to Antonio Brown, Brown the player, 1540 01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:53,479 Speaker 1: they could no longer deal with him. His personality was 1541 01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,840 Speaker 1: such that they had to part ways. They believed with 1542 01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: the best wide receiver in football, and they had the 1543 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 1: control of contracts. So they send him via trade to 1544 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders. And that's where it just feels I'm thinking 1545 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,920 Speaker 1: about from a Steelers perspective, how this all networks out 1546 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 1: that you the one thing you have left is you 1547 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,400 Speaker 1: can decide where to send this guy. And the one place, 1548 01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:16,040 Speaker 1: obviously you would never send him is the Patriots and 1549 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown by sheer force of will. And I know 1550 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:22,320 Speaker 1: we we tend now in the media and fans to 1551 01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,640 Speaker 1: always side with the player whenever there's any type of 1552 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 1: contract dispute. But but to me, this showed me when 1553 01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: when this can go wrong. And I think that I 1554 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 1: agree with West in the in the sense that this 1555 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,160 Speaker 1: didn't feel right. This did not pass the smell test. 1556 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,280 Speaker 1: That he is now a member of the Patriots, and 1557 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people if he was a member of 1558 01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 1: the Browns and then to be fine, it wouldn't like 1559 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,679 Speaker 1: if he because he was gonna sign with a team, 1560 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,800 Speaker 1: he had multiple teams that were interested. I don't think 1561 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,439 Speaker 1: from high perspective, I don't think you should be able 1562 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:53,320 Speaker 1: to through just abhorrent behavior and doing everything that's against 1563 01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:54,840 Speaker 1: what it should be to be a professional. I don't 1564 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:58,000 Speaker 1: care what industry you work in and then allowed be 1565 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 1: allowed to get your way the way he did here. 1566 01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,439 Speaker 1: And I'm not as down on the Patriots from the 1567 01:20:03,880 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 1: stance of um, what an ugly thing to do. I 1568 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,519 Speaker 1: think it's more on Brown's side the way this worked out, 1569 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 1: how he gets what he wants and everybody else gets 1570 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,720 Speaker 1: left hanging except for your Patriots. I just wonder though, 1571 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 1: it's it's not like he had a master plan to 1572 01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 1: make less money and and lose his job with the Raiders. 1573 01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that was I don't think 1574 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,120 Speaker 1: talk about the Chris Mortenson report sure that he sought 1575 01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,760 Speaker 1: out social media experts to find out how to gain 1576 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 1: his release. So that was so that at the at 1577 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,519 Speaker 1: the point that we got to what late last week, 1578 01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:40,600 Speaker 1: where things had already gone pretty sour between him and 1579 01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:43,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders, and really it's just from from his side. 1580 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:47,439 Speaker 1: At that point, Chris Mortenson reported that he contacted a 1581 01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:50,599 Speaker 1: social media expert basically, you know, wanted to use social 1582 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,719 Speaker 1: to maybe get booted off the team, which is wild. 1583 01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,839 Speaker 1: It's unprecedented that the video that he did where Gruden 1584 01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,720 Speaker 1: is talking was like, the production value was incredible. The 1585 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,160 Speaker 1: fact that he put Gruden's voice on it, it's just 1586 01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,760 Speaker 1: almost mind numbing. I just feel like, hey, it's also 1587 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,840 Speaker 1: wire tapping. We're losing. We're like, we're loving, We're living 1588 01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 1: in the Truman Show. But here's the reason why the 1589 01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:16,439 Speaker 1: league isn't gonna look at anything, because the Raiders at 1590 01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:20,160 Speaker 1: this point are happy with the result that they don't 1591 01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,120 Speaker 1: have to pay him anymore. They're not happy with how 1592 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,599 Speaker 1: I don't I don't care about that. I'm talking about 1593 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,240 Speaker 1: the integrity of the game. What would you what could 1594 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,960 Speaker 1: you stop? You can't stop. You cannot allow this guy 1595 01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,360 Speaker 1: to go wherever he wants. You cannot allow an hour 1596 01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 1: after he's released. Ru Rosenhalth has an agreement with the Patriots. 1597 01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,760 Speaker 1: It's it stinks too high happens. The Patriots tried to 1598 01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,920 Speaker 1: give up a first round pick for this guy, and 1599 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers said, no, you're our rival, We're not gonna 1600 01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,120 Speaker 1: do it, so they find a workaround. I don't believe 1601 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,960 Speaker 1: he ever hit a working for It's not like the 1602 01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,360 Speaker 1: Patriots are those social media so it's not like the 1603 01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:54,680 Speaker 1: Patriots had anything to do with whatever is going on 1604 01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:57,760 Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown in his own life or with the 1605 01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,760 Speaker 1: Raiders or is interacts. You don't know that. You don't 1606 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:02,920 Speaker 1: know what they've been saying to Drew Rosenhouse behind this. Well, 1607 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:08,080 Speaker 1: to be fair, I mean we're gonna say nope. If 1608 01:22:08,080 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna say that random at all. If it's a 1609 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,280 Speaker 1: leap to question some of the timing elements here, then 1610 01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,400 Speaker 1: it's also a leap to say that the Patriots are 1611 01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,920 Speaker 1: just this sort of innocent flower that Antonio Brown lands 1612 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,519 Speaker 1: in their lap. They're absolutely complicit. I would love to 1613 01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,720 Speaker 1: know if I forget the wire tapping stuff they put 1614 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,880 Speaker 1: on John Gruden, which by the way is a California 1615 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,559 Speaker 1: law that was broken, which the Raiders because they got 1616 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 1: because they want to deal to anymore. We're gonna let 1617 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:34,960 Speaker 1: that fly. And that's fine, that's almost humorous at this point. 1618 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,720 Speaker 1: But I would love to be a fly on the 1619 01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,160 Speaker 1: wall to understand everything that was said between Drew Rosenhouse 1620 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:43,120 Speaker 1: and the Patriots was dating back and when it was said, 1621 01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,439 Speaker 1: because the timing is so convenient and so quick, and 1622 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,760 Speaker 1: it was so expedited. And you've got video of Antonio 1623 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,439 Speaker 1: Brown running out and jumping around his pool because he 1624 01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,479 Speaker 1: did get his wish. We can use the money thing 1625 01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,360 Speaker 1: and you want get money, you can say that he 1626 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,639 Speaker 1: at that point he obviously wanted out. He didn't whatever 1627 01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,080 Speaker 1: the organism, and we talked about it and and this 1628 01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,840 Speaker 1: is why I'm not overly worried. I didn't have a 1629 01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:08,879 Speaker 1: strong feeling of them adding Antonio Brown, positive or negative. 1630 01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,960 Speaker 1: Just what do you mean? I mean how it's disgusting? Like, 1631 01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,080 Speaker 1: how are you a Patriots fanning you have no issue 1632 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: with a guy who went a wall in the most 1633 01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: important game of the year for the Steelers and then 1634 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:19,920 Speaker 1: just did this to the range. I don't, And you're 1635 01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:22,640 Speaker 1: fine selling your soul for that Now, I don't. I 1636 01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:24,960 Speaker 1: don't like the what is because I think they have 1637 01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,760 Speaker 1: a higher a higher moral standard than other teams. I 1638 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 1: look at what's the breaking point? What? What? What are 1639 01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 1: you saying? Hey, I do understand, but I don't. I 1640 01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,920 Speaker 1: don't know understand. I guess I don't understand. Why does 1641 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown cause this outrage compared to a lot of 1642 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,280 Speaker 1: other players that are that No, but I'm saying that 1643 01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 1: are on the Patriots right now, that are on the 1644 01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:48,560 Speaker 1: Chiefs the Tyreek Hill contract. There are different times of 1645 01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 1: types of character issues. There are all field issues, and 1646 01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,760 Speaker 1: people mix this up all the time, and then there 1647 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,960 Speaker 1: is team and this guy has undermined team and it 1648 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 1: doesn't bother. Well, Here's why I think Bill Belichick probably 1649 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,760 Speaker 1: decided that it was worth the risk, because it obviously 1650 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 1: is a risk that he's not the Raiders. He's not 1651 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 1: Jon Gruden and my Mayak running a Mickey Mouse operation. 1652 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 1: It may be in their mind or whatever he's saying. 1653 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,599 Speaker 1: I've taken in players before. I have a quarter who 1654 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,280 Speaker 1: have done what Antonio Brown. I have a quarterback who's 1655 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, the greatest of all time is a great 1656 01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:24,400 Speaker 1: leader who says I'm a million percent in that wants 1657 01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:28,320 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown on the team that I and as a fan, 1658 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm I like just watching football. I don't like watching 1659 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:34,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots because I've never believed that they are somehow 1660 01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,600 Speaker 1: better than other teams. That They've had a lot of 1661 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:40,599 Speaker 1: characters go through that team that are unsavory, just like 1662 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,040 Speaker 1: every other NFL team. So that's why I don't really 1663 01:24:43,120 --> 01:24:47,439 Speaker 1: understand the why does Antonio Brown cause as much as 1664 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:50,840 Speaker 1: because of what he's done to the team concept. In 1665 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,519 Speaker 1: a team sport you grew up playing tennis, it's not 1666 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:56,200 Speaker 1: team sport. I get it, but it's it's football like 1667 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,880 Speaker 1: to me. It's not that I agree he's been a 1668 01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 1: bad teammate, but it's not that serious to me. If 1669 01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,080 Speaker 1: he's been a bad teammate, I watch it because they're 1670 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:08,679 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch as a football operation. I love the sport. 1671 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,600 Speaker 1: I love the way the game plan every week, and 1672 01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 1: to me, Antonio Brown is a fascinating player and to 1673 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,240 Speaker 1: see him on that team, it's it's going to be interesting. 1674 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 1: And here's what I would go with in terms of 1675 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,240 Speaker 1: Antoni Brown. He's been in the NFL a long time. 1676 01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:25,320 Speaker 1: All this nonsense has happened, uh and really expedited and 1677 01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:30,920 Speaker 1: ramped up since the end of last season, been dealing with. 1678 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,320 Speaker 1: My point is, he's been in the NFL a long time, 1679 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,880 Speaker 1: and when you go through all those years, there's production 1680 01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,919 Speaker 1: in all of those years. So and because Bill Belichick 1681 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,000 Speaker 1: to me, and look, a lot of Patriots fans weren't 1682 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 1: happy about this, our friend Burke, our producer Eric tam Posey, 1683 01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:48,760 Speaker 1: they hate the idea. And I saw and I say, 1684 01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:51,120 Speaker 1: I say, Bill Belichick to me has earned the benefit 1685 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 1: of the doubt that he can integrate people into the 1686 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:56,240 Speaker 1: team or he'll get rid of him quickly. Write. Let 1687 01:25:56,280 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 1: me just from my perspective, my hope now is that 1688 01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,720 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown becomes the trojan horse that destroys the Patriots, 1689 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,360 Speaker 1: that all this this ego, the Patriots, out of this 1690 01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 1: belief that we could take anyone and fix them, even 1691 01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:15,240 Speaker 1: someone who might be let's keep it real, have some 1692 01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,080 Speaker 1: mental issues, because there's a lot of evidence pointing to 1693 01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,080 Speaker 1: that that that just because the Patriot way will take 1694 01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:24,719 Speaker 1: hold and fix him. If there are football gods, Antonio 1695 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Brown will keep up his act and the Patriots will 1696 01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,040 Speaker 1: live to regret this. My fear is and the fear 1697 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,400 Speaker 1: of many many football fans is that what will actually 1698 01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,960 Speaker 1: happen is Antonio Brown will become a perfect soldier for 1699 01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:39,519 Speaker 1: the next four months, catch a hundred and fifteen balls, 1700 01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,960 Speaker 1: and the Patriots will go eighteen. And that is I 1701 01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,720 Speaker 1: think the football gods and guys. I totally I listen 1702 01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,200 Speaker 1: everything you said. I don't think the football gods, based 1703 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 1: on everything the Patriots have done that have offended various 1704 01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:55,599 Speaker 1: people for various reasons, from Belichick day one till now, 1705 01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:59,040 Speaker 1: are that upset about this. I don't think that they're 1706 01:26:59,040 --> 01:27:01,200 Speaker 1: going to be quite as a hauled by this situation 1707 01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,400 Speaker 1: as some of us are. Bottom line, I don't think 1708 01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,559 Speaker 1: they view it that way, and I don't think that. 1709 01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:09,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, but I think you see in general, 1710 01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,000 Speaker 1: if we're gonna point if I just I don't, I 1711 01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,760 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't. I don't feel Antonio Brown is 1712 01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:19,320 Speaker 1: a home run trojan horse in this situation because there 1713 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:22,080 Speaker 1: there have been characters that have gone into England either 1714 01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,680 Speaker 1: he produced or been let go quickly. I know, I know, 1715 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:27,400 Speaker 1: you know they you're saying the worst hope is that 1716 01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,080 Speaker 1: they fix him or they change. They don't. It's not 1717 01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 1: like they change anyone. He's he's the person who he is. 1718 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,200 Speaker 1: They're just playing a team sport, and can he can 1719 01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,799 Speaker 1: he act in the way that they want their players 1720 01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:40,719 Speaker 1: to act. There's gonna be a lot in the building, 1721 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,559 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him to basically get in line. 1722 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 1: And they've done it before. And if it doesn't happen, 1723 01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,120 Speaker 1: I think they they'll just cut them and move on. 1724 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,120 Speaker 1: Like it's not like to me, it's still just football. 1725 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:53,120 Speaker 1: It's not that serious. And when we're talking about a 1726 01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 1: sport where we're giving contact, asked Mike Mayock, if it's serious, 1727 01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,720 Speaker 1: asked Derek Carr, if it's I get it, But but 1728 01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,519 Speaker 1: look at some of the players on that team. Look 1729 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:03,519 Speaker 1: at what some of the players and that team have 1730 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 1: done throughout their careers. In our last embarrassed Mike Mayock 1731 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,320 Speaker 1: called I'm a cracker reportedly and no, yeah, I mean, oh, 1732 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,240 Speaker 1: hey good, my Patriots signed him. That's fine. It's only football. 1733 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:22,479 Speaker 1: It's not that it's just like incredibly in this I 1734 01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,280 Speaker 1: knew there was many fireworks. I told Bartlett behind the glass, 1735 01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:28,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna hit this topic. Greg and West are gonna 1736 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 1: go at each other. We're just gonna try to stay 1737 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,360 Speaker 1: out of the the way, like I'm going out at anything, 1738 01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:38,240 Speaker 1: and what can you do? Um, But obviously it's an 1739 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:46,120 Speaker 1: interesting topic and we will be tracking it. Brady backs up, 1740 01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:48,200 Speaker 1: stands and he's going with a long bottle of light 1741 01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,439 Speaker 1: up the door and said he him at ten to 1742 01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:56,320 Speaker 1: the five touchdown Patriots, you could come in this pilding. 1743 01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 1: You could go home and tell everybody, Hey, we at 1744 01:28:58,840 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 1: least got three of boards. A little much freak strike right, 1745 01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Nobody talks about all this kid does. Keep marking and 1746 01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:15,479 Speaker 1: you strike for fifty eight yards. Start the busses, Bob 1747 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:21,120 Speaker 1: Sojy and Scott Zola the Patriots Network. Something has changed, 1748 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:26,880 Speaker 1: some things thought. Tom Brady throws three touchdown passes, Philip 1749 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:33,479 Speaker 1: dore Set scores two touchdowns. Patriots destroy the Pittsburgh Steelers 1750 01:29:33,640 --> 01:29:37,400 Speaker 1: thirty three to three at Foxborow on Sunday night football. 1751 01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:42,559 Speaker 1: Um again again, predict things and Thursday and think you're smart, 1752 01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,720 Speaker 1: and then Sunday comes around and it's a disaster. I 1753 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,559 Speaker 1: thought that this was gonna be a great game. I 1754 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,479 Speaker 1: thought this would been a great way to punctuate a 1755 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 1: great Sunday football And the Patriots just embarrassed the Steelers 1756 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 1: and I know this is uh um has long been 1757 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,240 Speaker 1: the story of this quote unquote rivalry that the Steelers 1758 01:29:59,280 --> 01:30:02,360 Speaker 1: always are on the short end of it. But Mark 1759 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,680 Speaker 1: that what surprised me was just how easy this was. 1760 01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:10,120 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger and Pittsburgh's offense had no answers for New 1761 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:14,120 Speaker 1: England's defense, and the Patriots offense just cruised along as 1762 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,800 Speaker 1: if nothing has ever changed, because it seems like nothing 1763 01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:22,080 Speaker 1: ever will. It's not a rivalry. I'm tired of hoisting 1764 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:26,960 Speaker 1: up these matchups as rivalries because Pittsburgh has never taken 1765 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:30,520 Speaker 1: down New England in any game that actually had high consequences. 1766 01:30:30,600 --> 01:30:33,600 Speaker 1: Had to have absolutely high consequence. That's if that's the 1767 01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 1: highest consequence. Where Pittsburgh punctured New England on I level 1768 01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,519 Speaker 1: Week fifteen last year, and then where did those teams 1769 01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 1: wind up? I mean, you, you've got to be kidding me, 1770 01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:46,200 Speaker 1: because in general, New England has punched around the Steelers 1771 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:49,960 Speaker 1: left and right, and this tonight is about as embarrassing 1772 01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,599 Speaker 1: a loss as Pittsburgh could have pictured coming into this year. 1773 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,000 Speaker 1: And there were high hopes again and you know, we're 1774 01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,080 Speaker 1: another team. We've talked on this podcast tonight about three 1775 01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,439 Speaker 1: or four teams set aabotage because of offensive line injuries 1776 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,000 Speaker 1: where players are gone and your quarterback looks one eighth 1777 01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,599 Speaker 1: of what he should and your entire offense has lost 1778 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:12,120 Speaker 1: its flow. And the Patriots lose the center, a very 1779 01:31:12,240 --> 01:31:15,400 Speaker 1: valuable part of their offense. And for years on straight 1780 01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:19,320 Speaker 1: they've lost offensive lineman left to right. Tom Brady this 1781 01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:25,520 Speaker 1: evening sacked once for seven yards, throws for three three touchdowns. 1782 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:28,160 Speaker 1: And this is to go not to get back into 1783 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,519 Speaker 1: this whole thing. But when we talk about trojan horses 1784 01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,439 Speaker 1: and teams crumbling from the inside, if you're New England 1785 01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,960 Speaker 1: because you make this choice or pull that lever, no, 1786 01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,800 Speaker 1: well you're you're talking about two different things. Now, I'm 1787 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,559 Speaker 1: not organizationally, the Patriots are never gonna crumble that that 1788 01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: we know. So when I brought up the trojan horse, 1789 01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:48,000 Speaker 1: I mean just bringing in someone as destructive as Antonio 1790 01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,280 Speaker 1: Brown has been to his last two teams. That's a 1791 01:31:50,320 --> 01:31:52,759 Speaker 1: different conference. See how destructive he is. But in general, 1792 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:57,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots mask over there's perceived roster flaws better than 1793 01:31:57,240 --> 01:32:00,400 Speaker 1: any team and on any sport in this country. And 1794 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,759 Speaker 1: they do it year after year. And Greg, I understand 1795 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,360 Speaker 1: what you're saying that there is a competition between the Steelers. 1796 01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,280 Speaker 1: But if that is the high water mark of when Pittsburgh, 1797 01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, vandalized New England, then it is not arrival. 1798 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,720 Speaker 1: It is not a rivalry. I'm not gonna listen to 1799 01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:15,479 Speaker 1: it anymore. It's not I'm not gonna listen to No 1800 01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,559 Speaker 1: one's talked it up a great rivalry. It's been one sided. 1801 01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,679 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, joke that was that was a good 1802 01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:26,080 Speaker 1: performance by this well because because you guys are furious 1803 01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:28,559 Speaker 1: about you know what, it's not fair that Greg constantly 1804 01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:30,200 Speaker 1: has to defend something that he has not a part 1805 01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:33,720 Speaker 1: of either. But at the same time, let's not well 1806 01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:36,360 Speaker 1: enough with the straw men there is. This is not 1807 01:32:36,479 --> 01:32:39,240 Speaker 1: a rivalry. If this is what the PA the Steeler. 1808 01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:43,360 Speaker 1: If anyone in Pittsburgh considers this a rivalry, they need 1809 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:47,240 Speaker 1: to look at themselves here. No one expected this performance. 1810 01:32:47,280 --> 01:32:50,439 Speaker 1: No one expected Josh Gordon, after not seeing him too 1811 01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 1: much in camp, to have that sort of performance where 1812 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,560 Speaker 1: he tosses Joe Hayden aside for Philip Thurs set to 1813 01:32:56,600 --> 01:32:59,320 Speaker 1: have a great game for Julian Edelman, who wasn't around 1814 01:32:59,320 --> 01:33:01,519 Speaker 1: that much. I guess sweet, we could expect that Isaiah 1815 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,679 Speaker 1: Win was a big factor in this game at left tackle. 1816 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:06,920 Speaker 1: They lost their right tackle at the end of the game, 1817 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,360 Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon. That is their thinnest position on the roster, 1818 01:33:09,479 --> 01:33:11,719 Speaker 1: so we'll see if that ends up being a factor. 1819 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:14,760 Speaker 1: But it's a total disaster for the Steelers, especially I 1820 01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't even say both sides of the ball, but offensively, 1821 01:33:19,360 --> 01:33:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm not that shocked that the Patriots uh shut the 1822 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,960 Speaker 1: Steelers down. I think the Patriots defense has a chance 1823 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:28,639 Speaker 1: to be the best Patriots defense in two thousand four, 1824 01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,559 Speaker 1: and there's nothing they did tonight that I'll change it. 1825 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,080 Speaker 1: They're so advanced in terms of the intelligence that they 1826 01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:37,280 Speaker 1: have in the secondary and in the linebacker group that Belichick, 1827 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,720 Speaker 1: who's really taking a strong hand in this defense, is 1828 01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:43,479 Speaker 1: gonna be able to change up his strategy from week 1829 01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,200 Speaker 1: to week. And you saw it, and this was a 1830 01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:48,120 Speaker 1: tough spot. Patriots got helped out by the schedule makers 1831 01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,599 Speaker 1: getting a big game like the Steelers on this opening 1832 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,200 Speaker 1: night when they when they raised the sixtels, you're gonna 1833 01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:56,880 Speaker 1: get it at home to raise your sixth banner and open. 1834 01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,519 Speaker 1: Steelers lost in every way conceivable in this game and 1835 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,559 Speaker 1: even lost in the injury battle, because yes, Marcus Cannon 1836 01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:06,479 Speaker 1: suffered what looked like an arm injury. Looked really serious 1837 01:34:06,520 --> 01:34:08,280 Speaker 1: at first. He came off the field. Will see what 1838 01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:12,000 Speaker 1: happens with that. The right tackle the Pats, but Markue's pouncy. Uh. 1839 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:15,240 Speaker 1: Steelers center knee injury. We'll see what's going on there. 1840 01:34:15,320 --> 01:34:19,320 Speaker 1: T J. Watt, their expert, UH pass rusher hip injury. 1841 01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,960 Speaker 1: We'll see what's going on with that. Juju Smith Schuster 1842 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,519 Speaker 1: he limps off with an ankle injury late in the game. UM. 1843 01:34:25,600 --> 01:34:27,880 Speaker 1: We talked about earlier in the show that the Jaguars 1844 01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,679 Speaker 1: had maybe the worst Week one UM, and that will 1845 01:34:31,680 --> 01:34:33,680 Speaker 1: be hard to top considering you lose your quarterback. But 1846 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:37,360 Speaker 1: the Steelers are not far behind. Because remember if uh, 1847 01:34:37,400 --> 01:34:39,240 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to use the R word mark, 1848 01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,400 Speaker 1: but if the Steelers and the Patriots are both gonna 1849 01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,120 Speaker 1: be fighting for playoff positioning and hypothetically a buy down 1850 01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,720 Speaker 1: the line. Don't forget now Patriots have the tiebreakers, so 1851 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:51,880 Speaker 1: now Steelers have to be one game better than New England. Uh. 1852 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:54,800 Speaker 1: This is a Week one game with big ramifications, not 1853 01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,599 Speaker 1: to mention the psychological ones of New England. Just toying 1854 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,639 Speaker 1: with an opponent this Sunday night. It was not even close, 1855 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,280 Speaker 1: not even close from from the jump. The Patriots absolutely whipped. 1856 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,479 Speaker 1: So maybe New England will you know they've gotten Miami 1857 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:10,759 Speaker 1: next week you can go find out how you measure 1858 01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:14,479 Speaker 1: up against your former defensive coordinator now down in South Beach, 1859 01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:17,879 Speaker 1: undermining that organization from the ground. It's a long season. 1860 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that they're gonna struggle. It will 1861 01:35:22,280 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 1: be different if they come out of the gates flying 1862 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 1: like It's been a few seasons since we've seen that 1863 01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,080 Speaker 1: from the Patriots. Um, you know, we certainly saw it 1864 01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, we've seen we've seen another 1865 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,679 Speaker 1: seasons from the Patriots. So they can take different routes. 1866 01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,080 Speaker 1: But it's a very deep team and it's still it's 1867 01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,760 Speaker 1: still uncanny to me to see Brady now that he's 1868 01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,640 Speaker 1: a year older, he's forty two years old, looking that 1869 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 1: Brady like and for the Steelers to have coverage bus 1870 01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:50,719 Speaker 1: that reminded me so much of the two thousand and 1871 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,880 Speaker 1: sixteen an f C Championship game I was at, I believe, 1872 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,160 Speaker 1: where they went up and down the field and just 1873 01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 1: out coached the Steelers. Two thousand and sixteen Bethel High School. 1874 01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:04,680 Speaker 1: An ominous start. If you're a fan that does not 1875 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,120 Speaker 1: want the Patriots to be a dominant presence, this is 1876 01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:08,960 Speaker 1: an ominous start. This I don't want them to be 1877 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,280 Speaker 1: any presence. You're going to get. One thing they lost 1878 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:17,240 Speaker 1: this weekend was Chris Westling. Okay, alright, alright, good stuff, guys. 1879 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,760 Speaker 1: Week one recap in the books the next time. And 1880 01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:26,479 Speaker 1: remember this is streaming UM on YouTube, so you could 1881 01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,280 Speaker 1: check out our our Twitter handles and and we are UM. 1882 01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,519 Speaker 1: We'll send the link out and you can check this 1883 01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:36,519 Speaker 1: video out, this podcast out if you please, and we'll 1884 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:40,080 Speaker 1: be back Tuesday on our schedule Sunday night, Tuesday night 1885 01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:43,160 Speaker 1: early Friday, dropping with the preview pod. So check that out. 1886 01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:46,400 Speaker 1: Dan Hands is signing off four Quiet Storm, The Mailman, 1887 01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:50,479 Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Fire, all sorts of friends behind the Glass, 1888 01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:55,480 Speaker 1: Ryan Barlin and company. Thank you so much. Stail Tuesday. 1889 01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:14,760 Speaker 1: All right, kill kill that walk like m hm