1 00:00:01,340 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff You Missed in History Class, a production 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:14,430 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Hello and happy Friday. I'm Holly Frey. And 3 00:00:14,470 --> 00:00:17,450 Speaker 1: I'm Tracy V. Wilson. We talked about the Red Barn 4 00:00:17,489 --> 00:00:20,770 Speaker 1: murder this week. Yep. Which has been on my list 5 00:00:21,510 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: for a million years. Mm-hmm. Listen, I know it's grisly, 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: but I love talking about weird historical murders. I just 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: love knowing that anything we talk about today, you know, when, like, 8 00:00:32,659 --> 00:00:36,350 Speaker 1: horrific crimes happen and people are like, humans have really 9 00:00:36,409 --> 00:00:38,570 Speaker 1: fallen apart. I'm like, we were kind of always this way. 10 00:00:38,630 --> 00:00:41,990 Speaker 1: This is not new behavior. There is a wacky part 11 00:00:42,010 --> 00:00:46,830 Speaker 1: of this story that was... not important enough to include 12 00:00:46,870 --> 00:00:50,250 Speaker 1: in the narrative of the murder and its outcome, but 13 00:00:50,310 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: is wackadoodle, which is that between the time that the 14 00:00:53,220 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: verdict was given and the sentence of death was issued 15 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,780 Speaker 1: by the judge, there was a little bit of confusion 16 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:07,190 Speaker 1: because I think it was the judge wanted to see 17 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:12,830 Speaker 1: Corder's pistols But this is one of those instances where 18 00:01:13,380 --> 00:01:18,729 Speaker 1: old school law was a little nutty. And the investigator, Lee, 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,780 Speaker 1: had been entitled to take possession of those pistols when 20 00:01:23,860 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: he apprehended them. And like once the case was laid 21 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: out and they didn't need them anymore as evidence, allegedly. Yeah. 22 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: And then he, this is in the Curtis thing, Lee, 23 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,340 Speaker 1: the officer, claimed them as his property in consequence of 24 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: a promise which he had received from the prisoner when 25 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,860 Speaker 1: he first apprehended him. And when, of course, he had 26 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,060 Speaker 1: a right to dispose of his property. But then a 27 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:53,020 Speaker 1: member of the court working for the sheriff's office was 28 00:01:53,100 --> 00:01:55,340 Speaker 1: told to take possession of them. And he was like, 29 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: all right, give them to me. And Lee was like, no. 30 00:01:58,340 --> 00:02:04,500 Speaker 1: This is all weird. A whole weird thing. That's wild. 31 00:02:05,260 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: He initially was like, I don't have to comply with this. 32 00:02:08,260 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: I own those. Those are my personal property now. Yeah. 33 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,460 Speaker 1: But he did eventually turn them over. But it's just 34 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:16,590 Speaker 1: like one of the kookiest, like if that happened in 35 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:20,410 Speaker 1: a case today, everybody would be like, what is going on? But, 36 00:02:20,530 --> 00:02:24,669 Speaker 1: you know, here's the thing. The other thing that's interesting 37 00:02:24,730 --> 00:02:27,490 Speaker 1: and not related to anything grisly, or I guess something's grisly, 38 00:02:27,510 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: but not in any kind of immediate way, is when 39 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,460 Speaker 1: this was happening in terms of the legal system in Britain. 40 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:40,410 Speaker 1: Because there was not, like, the London Metropolitan Police did 41 00:02:40,450 --> 00:02:44,890 Speaker 1: not exist yet. But only by, like, a sliver of time. 42 00:02:44,970 --> 00:02:48,830 Speaker 1: There were lots of calls for a formal police force. 43 00:02:49,190 --> 00:02:51,860 Speaker 1: But at the time, it was all either people that 44 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:55,420 Speaker 1: did not get paid that were, like, kind of almost, like, 45 00:02:56,190 --> 00:03:00,870 Speaker 1: assigned public servants because it was an honorable thing to do. 46 00:03:01,380 --> 00:03:05,500 Speaker 1: Or there was a private police force, but they operated 47 00:03:05,780 --> 00:03:08,380 Speaker 1: kind of like a company of their own. And so 48 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,579 Speaker 1: it's just an interesting time for so much of this 49 00:03:10,660 --> 00:03:14,330 Speaker 1: to be playing out in a very high profile way 50 00:03:14,530 --> 00:03:20,549 Speaker 1: involving multiple jurisdictions, including a person who does identify themselves 51 00:03:20,730 --> 00:03:23,820 Speaker 1: as a member of, as a London police officer. It's 52 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: just an interesting kind of moment in time for all 53 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: of that. I just find that very, very fascinating. Here's 54 00:03:32,660 --> 00:03:37,100 Speaker 1: another thing that I'm curious about. Okay. Because it came 55 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,270 Speaker 1: up in the plot of the whole thing and in 56 00:03:40,310 --> 00:03:42,369 Speaker 1: the telling of the story and all of the information 57 00:03:42,390 --> 00:03:47,550 Speaker 1: that we had that William was really hell-bent on filling 58 00:03:47,750 --> 00:03:51,810 Speaker 1: in the well. But, like, Mariah's body was found in 59 00:03:51,850 --> 00:03:56,330 Speaker 1: the floor. Okay. And so I'm guessing that that's where 60 00:03:56,370 --> 00:03:58,310 Speaker 1: they put the baby? That's the only thing I can 61 00:03:58,330 --> 00:04:01,390 Speaker 1: think of that would be that Like, we got to 62 00:04:01,430 --> 00:04:04,030 Speaker 1: fill this in before I leave town. Like, it's the 63 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:05,460 Speaker 1: only thing I can think of that would make sense, 64 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:07,580 Speaker 1: but it never, I didn't find, it could be in 65 00:04:07,660 --> 00:04:10,500 Speaker 1: one of these accounts because there's a lot of writing 66 00:04:10,540 --> 00:04:14,380 Speaker 1: about him. It could have been addressed in some way, 67 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: but everything I read said, we don't know where the, 68 00:04:16,610 --> 00:04:20,050 Speaker 1: we never found out where the baby was buried. And 69 00:04:20,089 --> 00:04:22,150 Speaker 1: the well thing kind of sputters out kind of the 70 00:04:22,210 --> 00:04:25,969 Speaker 1: same way the, um, investigation of where the baby might 71 00:04:25,990 --> 00:04:29,330 Speaker 1: have been sputtered out. So that's the only thing that 72 00:04:29,350 --> 00:04:31,390 Speaker 1: I could put together in my head. And that's supposition 73 00:04:31,450 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: on my part. I don't know. It just seemed like, 74 00:04:34,260 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: why would he be so intent on that if there 75 00:04:36,460 --> 00:04:38,339 Speaker 1: was nothing to hide in the well? And that's the 76 00:04:38,380 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: only thing I could think of. Yeah. Because the pistols 77 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:48,650 Speaker 1: are accounted for, even though there's arguing over who owns them. Right. Yeah, 78 00:04:48,670 --> 00:04:51,990 Speaker 1: what a weaselly dude, though. Just what a villain. Yeah. Yeah. 79 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: What a sad story in general. Oh, it really, really is. 80 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,140 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those things where there are 81 00:04:59,180 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: a lot of newspapers of the day comment on like, oh, 82 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,770 Speaker 1: everybody agrees Mariah was super smart. You know, she was 83 00:05:08,210 --> 00:05:12,170 Speaker 1: she really if she had had more advantages, she could have, 84 00:05:12,290 --> 00:05:14,170 Speaker 1: you know, had anything in the world. She could have 85 00:05:14,190 --> 00:05:16,770 Speaker 1: done anything with her life. So it becomes a sad 86 00:05:16,830 --> 00:05:20,170 Speaker 1: story about that and kind of like the difficulty of 87 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: upward mobility in, you know, a hierarchical class structure. But 88 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:33,349 Speaker 1: also just the idea of the really gross, you know, sociopathic, like, 89 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:38,070 Speaker 1: lying to her parents and concocting whole kooky stories is 90 00:05:38,650 --> 00:05:40,930 Speaker 1: part of why I think this one stays so compelling. 91 00:05:41,630 --> 00:05:46,250 Speaker 1: You know, it's like any Netflix documentary about true crime today. 92 00:05:47,130 --> 00:05:52,570 Speaker 1: But it's, yeah, it's terribly sad. And I... I do 93 00:05:52,610 --> 00:05:54,729 Speaker 1: like it's one of the rare ones, you know, where 94 00:05:54,830 --> 00:05:58,170 Speaker 1: the villain gets comeuppance, but it still stinks. His wife, 95 00:05:58,250 --> 00:06:01,110 Speaker 1: by the way, continued to visit him in prison right 96 00:06:01,150 --> 00:06:04,890 Speaker 1: up to the end. Like, she kind of stuck by him. Yeah. 97 00:06:05,250 --> 00:06:07,500 Speaker 1: Which is wild to me. That's a whole other flavor 98 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,740 Speaker 1: of wild. Yeah. But we know that people do that anyway. Right. 99 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: But she was also a victim, whether she was cognizant 100 00:06:16,220 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: of that or not. Right. Just one person with a 101 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:23,570 Speaker 1: lack of morality can really mess up a bunch of 102 00:06:23,589 --> 00:06:32,970 Speaker 1: people's lives anyway famous famous case yuck but also interesting 103 00:06:33,810 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: and also I just love that you know here we 104 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: are how many how many years almost 200 years later 105 00:06:40,420 --> 00:06:42,820 Speaker 1: with a oh we didn't know about this gross part 106 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: yeah yeah I have I have many thoughts about that 107 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,660 Speaker 1: that are horrifying okay Just because we have been to 108 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,380 Speaker 1: a large-scale tannery when we were in Morocco. Yeah. And 109 00:06:54,420 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: we know that whole business is not delightful. No. So 110 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,250 Speaker 1: it makes me think that doctor was a ghoul. Probably. 111 00:07:03,620 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: But there are also other books bound in skin. Oh, yes, 112 00:07:07,700 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: for sure. This is not an outlier in history. Sometimes 113 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: libraries know that they're there. Sometimes it's like it's discovered, oh, 114 00:07:15,060 --> 00:07:17,220 Speaker 1: this is actually human skin. And then there has to 115 00:07:17,260 --> 00:07:20,780 Speaker 1: be a whole conversation of now what? Like, now what 116 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: do we do with this book as having learned that 117 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: it was bound in human skin and we didn't know before? Yeah, 118 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: in this case, they seem to have just been incorporated 119 00:07:29,300 --> 00:07:34,490 Speaker 1: into the exhibit about him. Yeah. I'm sure with whatever, 120 00:07:34,750 --> 00:07:41,460 Speaker 1: you know, careful preservation and safety and health precautions taken 121 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:45,140 Speaker 1: that might be involved. Sure. There was a funny, if 122 00:07:45,180 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: you can put a funny on it, one of the 123 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:54,610 Speaker 1: news articles reporting that particular discovery, the way it was 124 00:07:54,710 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: phrased made it sound like The ear that is part 125 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: of the museum's thing was part of one of the 126 00:08:03,810 --> 00:08:06,370 Speaker 1: book covers. Oh, no. And I had that moment when 127 00:08:06,390 --> 00:08:08,830 Speaker 1: I first read it. I'm like, what ding dong didn't 128 00:08:08,890 --> 00:08:12,290 Speaker 1: recognize what that was? But then I kept picking it apart. 129 00:08:12,350 --> 00:08:15,210 Speaker 1: And then I was looking at a picture like that 130 00:08:15,290 --> 00:08:18,130 Speaker 1: museum has like one photograph of the thing. And I'm like, 131 00:08:18,210 --> 00:08:20,150 Speaker 1: I think that's the ear. I don't think it was. 132 00:08:21,010 --> 00:08:23,650 Speaker 1: I see. This is weird grammar and punctuation that's made 133 00:08:23,670 --> 00:08:27,630 Speaker 1: this a little unclear. But I did have a moment of. Right. 134 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:34,540 Speaker 1: It was kooky. Anyway, Halloween. Yeah. Yeah. I promise. I 135 00:08:34,580 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: think it's the next one. One of my remaining Halloweens 136 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,340 Speaker 1: is really fun. Promise that. Oh, good. They won't all 137 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:53,829 Speaker 1: be grizzly. Although, again, it's a time for grizzly. We 138 00:08:53,870 --> 00:08:57,410 Speaker 1: talked about candy bars this week. Yeah, very exciting. for 139 00:08:57,450 --> 00:09:00,270 Speaker 1: an installment of eponymous foods, which was very fun. I 140 00:09:00,290 --> 00:09:02,970 Speaker 1: have so many kooky notes about this one because there 141 00:09:02,990 --> 00:09:04,469 Speaker 1: were just kooky things that came up while I was 142 00:09:04,510 --> 00:09:08,410 Speaker 1: doing research. One that's really interesting. We kept saying throughout 143 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:12,870 Speaker 1: our discussion of like the Mars family history, like, Oh, 144 00:09:12,929 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: it's hard to verify this one. Or like, Oh, there's 145 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,059 Speaker 1: not much about this. That family has been purposely, uh, 146 00:09:20,580 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: kind of secretive. And I'm reluctant to even put it 147 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: that way because it sounds like they're cloak and daggery. 148 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: I think they just want to maintain their privacy. But they, like, 149 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: didn't even give interviews until the 90s. Oh, wow. Like, 150 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,820 Speaker 1: they just, you know, so all of that stuff that 151 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,630 Speaker 1: probably would have been documented if they were more into 152 00:09:36,190 --> 00:09:39,550 Speaker 1: kind of putting themselves out there has just not been. 153 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:42,030 Speaker 1: So that's part of why that happened. But what started 154 00:09:42,070 --> 00:09:47,170 Speaker 1: happening in the 90s, particularly after Forrest died, is that, 155 00:09:47,270 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: you know, a lot more discussion happened about the family. 156 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,990 Speaker 1: And there are some very interesting articles about Forrest. One, 157 00:09:56,050 --> 00:09:57,810 Speaker 1: I kind of laugh because he was 60 when he 158 00:09:57,850 --> 00:10:02,990 Speaker 1: finally took over the family business. And part of me 159 00:10:03,030 --> 00:10:05,030 Speaker 1: was like, was he going to retire if he didn't 160 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:09,010 Speaker 1: get this? And then he just kept working forever. But 161 00:10:09,050 --> 00:10:11,630 Speaker 1: a lot of them that talk about how Forrest was 162 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: super successful, like his obituaries, write-ups about him, talk about 163 00:10:15,980 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: how hugely successful he was even though he was the 164 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:22,310 Speaker 1: son of an unsuccessful candy maker. And I'm like, that's 165 00:10:22,350 --> 00:10:24,860 Speaker 1: not accurate. Your dad made a lot of money. He 166 00:10:24,910 --> 00:10:27,380 Speaker 1: built a whole farm. But I just wonder if some 167 00:10:27,420 --> 00:10:30,500 Speaker 1: of that bitterness did not carry forward and so Forrest 168 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:33,140 Speaker 1: got to write a little bit of the narrative about 169 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:39,100 Speaker 1: Frank's life, which makes me chuckle. There was a headline 170 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: about Frank Mars' death that made me laugh so hard. 171 00:10:43,460 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: And I know it's not funny and the person died, 172 00:10:46,620 --> 00:10:48,340 Speaker 1: but this is just one of those things because you 173 00:10:48,380 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: and I have both been copy editors, where I was like, 174 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: is that the best way to say it? Is that 175 00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:59,010 Speaker 1: the best way to put that? And they read, Frank C. 176 00:10:59,050 --> 00:11:03,130 Speaker 1: Mars is victim of death. And I'm like, well, I mean, 177 00:11:03,150 --> 00:11:05,770 Speaker 1: of the Grim Reaper, sure, I guess. But like, death 178 00:11:05,850 --> 00:11:08,729 Speaker 1: is the outcome, not the event. Like, I just, I 179 00:11:08,750 --> 00:11:15,010 Speaker 1: was like, this is weird journalism. That's funny. Victim of death. 180 00:11:15,980 --> 00:11:19,620 Speaker 1: There was also a very kooky lawsuit that I stumbled 181 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: across in the midst of all of that, right after 182 00:11:22,900 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: Frank had died, where, like, apparently he and Ethel had 183 00:11:27,620 --> 00:11:32,890 Speaker 1: hired a woman to decorate their home, which was quite large, 184 00:11:33,710 --> 00:11:37,689 Speaker 1: and they had essentially, like, set her up in her 185 00:11:37,850 --> 00:11:41,390 Speaker 1: own apartment that was nearby, and they had promised to 186 00:11:41,450 --> 00:11:43,090 Speaker 1: pay her a bunch of money, and she kind of 187 00:11:43,130 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: lived in style, alongside them for a bit but when 188 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,780 Speaker 1: frank died like all of that ended and she tried 189 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: to sue for breach of contract and i don't know 190 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:55,100 Speaker 1: whatever came of that but it was wacky i just 191 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:59,250 Speaker 1: was like man you know wealthy people get a lot 192 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,949 Speaker 1: of people suing them frank allegedly gave out full-size candy 193 00:12:03,970 --> 00:12:06,610 Speaker 1: bars at halloween every year yeah at a time when 194 00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:08,850 Speaker 1: not everybody was trick-or-treating in the u.s so i think 195 00:12:08,870 --> 00:12:11,650 Speaker 1: it's interesting that he like was making it very worthwhile 196 00:12:11,690 --> 00:12:15,670 Speaker 1: for the kids that did right Did you know that 197 00:12:15,690 --> 00:12:19,770 Speaker 1: there was, in England, briefly, a version of the Mars 198 00:12:19,830 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: bar that was pineapple flavored? Oh, no. You made a face, 199 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: but that sounds great to me. I like pineapple a lot, 200 00:12:30,020 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: but something about that combination is... Bring it on. I 201 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:36,540 Speaker 1: might would bite into it and go, okay, that's delicious. 202 00:12:36,660 --> 00:12:39,709 Speaker 1: But hearing about it, I'm like, I think it sounds delicious. 203 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:44,470 Speaker 1: Pineapple flavored nougat, or is it? Pineapple instead of caramel? 204 00:12:44,590 --> 00:12:46,990 Speaker 1: I don't know. Now I want to try to make one. 205 00:12:47,050 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: We'll see. I also just thought it was interesting that 206 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:51,979 Speaker 1: all of these candy companies in the U.S. were kind 207 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,599 Speaker 1: of developing simultaneously, and they all had crossover, and it 208 00:12:55,660 --> 00:13:01,540 Speaker 1: didn't seem to be particularly... conflict-laden. Right. They all seem 209 00:13:01,580 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: to know each other. Hey, your dad knows my dad. 210 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:05,740 Speaker 1: We kind of grew up together. You want to make 211 00:13:05,780 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: a candy together? Hey, I want to go start my 212 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: own company. Cool, cool, cool. Let's work this out together. Like, 213 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:17,700 Speaker 1: it just wasn't the same as other industries where we see, like, cutthroat. Right, right. 214 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,220 Speaker 1: It was like everybody was kind of like, all right, let's... Clearly, 215 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,610 Speaker 1: we're all doing fine. People love candy. Let's keep making it. Yeah. 216 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,130 Speaker 1: I just like that. Here's the last thing I will say, 217 00:13:28,250 --> 00:13:33,709 Speaker 1: and it is... As I frequently do, a confession of 218 00:13:33,750 --> 00:13:38,130 Speaker 1: my own stupidity. Okay. Okay, so we know that Frank 219 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: Mars lived in Tacoma for a while. I used to 220 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,580 Speaker 1: live right by there when I was a kid. I 221 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,780 Speaker 1: know what people call people that live in Tacoma. However, 222 00:13:52,230 --> 00:13:54,849 Speaker 1: I came across, I don't remember if it was an 223 00:13:54,910 --> 00:13:58,990 Speaker 1: obituary or something else, that they described him as a 224 00:14:00,030 --> 00:14:07,170 Speaker 1: word that is spelled... T-A-C-O-M-A-N. Taco Man. And I said, 225 00:14:07,210 --> 00:14:13,010 Speaker 1: Taco Man? Did he sell tacos at one point? Well, 226 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:15,830 Speaker 1: I obviously mentally read it as Taco Man just now. 227 00:14:16,250 --> 00:14:19,330 Speaker 1: It's Tacoman, and people call them that, but my brain 228 00:14:19,350 --> 00:14:22,310 Speaker 1: was like, Taco Man, I'm going to find this taco business. 229 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,910 Speaker 1: I was so excited about a secret side business selling 230 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:31,620 Speaker 1: delicious tacos. Anyway, he didn't sell tacos. Now I want 231 00:14:31,660 --> 00:14:34,869 Speaker 1: some tacos. That was just my fever drink. When I 232 00:14:34,930 --> 00:14:38,150 Speaker 1: realized it, I was like, Holly, you utter ding-dong. Yeah. 233 00:14:38,350 --> 00:14:40,390 Speaker 1: You know what this word is. You've seen it in 234 00:14:40,430 --> 00:14:43,340 Speaker 1: print before. Not in a while, to be fair, but 235 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,780 Speaker 1: I was just like, man, maybe I need some tacos 236 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: to fix my brain. I don't know. That sounds good. 237 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: Candy also sounds good. Candy, yeah. I have that thing 238 00:14:55,140 --> 00:14:59,020 Speaker 1: where I usually describe myself as having more of like 239 00:14:59,060 --> 00:15:02,980 Speaker 1: a butter tooth than a sweet tooth. However... A bag 240 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,750 Speaker 1: of Reese's is not safe with me. No, they're so good. 241 00:15:07,770 --> 00:15:11,550 Speaker 1: I cannot buy them for Halloween. Because I will eat 242 00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:14,390 Speaker 1: them all before any child comes to the door. I 243 00:15:14,390 --> 00:15:17,140 Speaker 1: have to be very careful and judicious about when these 244 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,020 Speaker 1: purchases take place. Sometimes I make my husband hide them 245 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: from me, which is usually successful because I figure out 246 00:15:23,660 --> 00:15:26,900 Speaker 1: where they are. Just because I... Like a guppy, I 247 00:15:26,940 --> 00:15:29,180 Speaker 1: will eat until I'm sick and then be like, just 248 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: one more. Come on, just one more. Even though I 249 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: feel like garbage. Yeah. There are some things that I 250 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:37,500 Speaker 1: will get Patrick to like squirrel away somewhere because I 251 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:39,870 Speaker 1: know that I will eat the whole bag and that 252 00:15:39,950 --> 00:15:43,350 Speaker 1: I will then feel very bad. And then I won't 253 00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:47,290 Speaker 1: have the candy anymore and I'll be sad. Right? My 254 00:15:47,370 --> 00:15:50,750 Speaker 1: impulse control around a Reese's cup is not there. Yeah. 255 00:15:50,890 --> 00:15:54,210 Speaker 1: It's just not there. They're delicious. They're the best one. 256 00:15:55,210 --> 00:15:58,010 Speaker 1: Of all these mentioned today, at least for me, they're 257 00:15:58,050 --> 00:16:02,010 Speaker 1: so good. My one that I really just can't control 258 00:16:02,250 --> 00:16:04,650 Speaker 1: myself with is not one that we mentioned today. It 259 00:16:04,830 --> 00:16:08,050 Speaker 1: is a thing that is only around sometimes, it seems like. 260 00:16:08,150 --> 00:16:11,710 Speaker 1: And they are Hershey Kisses that are filled with cherry 261 00:16:11,750 --> 00:16:15,630 Speaker 1: cordial flavor. We do not have the same taste in candies. No, 262 00:16:16,130 --> 00:16:20,780 Speaker 1: that's just fine. I love the white chocolate Hershey's Kisses. 263 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: Don't come for me. I know white chocolate isn't technically chocolate, 264 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: but we call it that. I love those. And I love, love, 265 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:31,620 Speaker 1: love a Cadbury cream egg. Oh, same. Same. I like 266 00:16:31,660 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: it Halloween when they do Cadbury scream eggs. Yeah, I 267 00:16:34,060 --> 00:16:36,140 Speaker 1: haven't seen those in a store in a while here. 268 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:39,210 Speaker 1: But the first time I ever saw them, I got 269 00:16:39,470 --> 00:16:42,550 Speaker 1: so excited because it had been an only Easter thing 270 00:16:42,590 --> 00:16:45,930 Speaker 1: for so long. I just lost it. Yeah, we also 271 00:16:45,970 --> 00:16:49,130 Speaker 1: didn't talk about in the show, we mentioned that when 272 00:16:49,210 --> 00:16:52,730 Speaker 1: Forrest went and started his company in England, he made 273 00:16:52,750 --> 00:16:56,210 Speaker 1: the bars a little sweeter, that like candy in Britain 274 00:16:56,590 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: is different. And of course, that's where Cadbury is from. 275 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,179 Speaker 1: But when we went a couple of years ago, we 276 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: were in London and it was Brian's first time there. 277 00:17:07,380 --> 00:17:11,340 Speaker 1: And like the way we destroyed little corner shops, just 278 00:17:11,380 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: being like at one point, He just asked them, can 279 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,899 Speaker 1: I buy a case? Do you have a case in 280 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: the back that I can buy to take home? Yeah. 281 00:17:18,369 --> 00:17:21,630 Speaker 1: I forget what it was. It might have been like 282 00:17:21,670 --> 00:17:24,150 Speaker 1: a cookie butter Twix or something like that. Oh, that 283 00:17:24,190 --> 00:17:28,810 Speaker 1: sounds good. Very good. Yeah. Yeah. I just remember that 284 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: episode of The Simpsons where they go to London and 285 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: they are having chocolate. And I think it's one of 286 00:17:34,060 --> 00:17:36,820 Speaker 1: the sales ladies that says like, be careful, children, the 287 00:17:36,859 --> 00:17:39,820 Speaker 1: chocolate here is sweeter than you're used to. And then 288 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,050 Speaker 1: they just did like a, you know, kind of an 289 00:17:42,109 --> 00:17:49,410 Speaker 1: addiction montage of the kids losing their minds. Anyway, candy. Yeah. Delicious. 290 00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:52,810 Speaker 1: So good. I got my candy corn today because candy corn, 291 00:17:53,090 --> 00:17:55,710 Speaker 1: much maligned. I know it's not for everybody. Also one 292 00:17:55,730 --> 00:17:58,590 Speaker 1: of my favorites that I cannot be trusted with. I 293 00:17:58,609 --> 00:18:01,060 Speaker 1: will eat a whole bag of candy corn. And then 294 00:18:01,100 --> 00:18:05,429 Speaker 1: I will drive to the store and get more candy corn. Yeah. Anyway, 295 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:08,389 Speaker 1: as we said in the end of that episode, if 296 00:18:08,430 --> 00:18:11,230 Speaker 1: you go trick-or-treating, I hope you get full bars the 297 00:18:11,310 --> 00:18:13,790 Speaker 1: whole time. I hope you get the most delicious stuff. 298 00:18:14,650 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: And I hope that everything is yummy and everybody's cool 299 00:18:17,260 --> 00:18:19,540 Speaker 1: to you. I feel like trick-or-treating has fallen off a bit. 300 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,820 Speaker 1: I know some neighborhoods and communities are finding alternate ways 301 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,220 Speaker 1: to kind of have that experience. So however you do it. 302 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: However you do Halloween, the most fun day of the year. 303 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: I hope it is an absolute joy. If you don't 304 00:18:32,820 --> 00:18:35,020 Speaker 1: do Halloween, that is also cool. I hope you have 305 00:18:35,060 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: a great weekend doing whatever it is you do that 306 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: delights you. We will be back here on Monday with 307 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,140 Speaker 1: a brand new episode. And we will also be back 308 00:18:45,220 --> 00:18:53,119 Speaker 1: tomorrow with a classic. 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