1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another edition of the 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast. It's Tuesday morning. It is December fourteenth. 3 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: If you have our Lord twenty twenty one. This is 4 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: a mail bag. We do it twice a week. It's 5 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 1: all college football. And my name is Joshua pat I 6 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: go by Josh for short. Saves you, time saves me, 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: time keeps more lead in the pencil. You get it. 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: We have got a lot to talk about, don't we. 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: So normally they ask me, Josh, He's still gonna do 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: normal schedule. We'll get close to Christmas. You know, season's over, 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: got a little break between bowl season. There's no break. 12 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: Have you looked around? There is no break. There's debris, 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 1: there's dust clouds all over the place. So so much 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: is going on. I mean, if you were to take 15 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: a break in Columbia, South Carolina right now, what would 16 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: you have missed yesterday? The transfer portal's on fire, the 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: coaching market's been on fire. Everything's on fire. All that. 18 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: Plus I don't know if you're aware of this, guys, 19 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: but oh, we have an early signing day coming up tomorrow. 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fly out of here shortly after I record 21 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: this and then head over to the gym priorities. We're 22 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: gonna go down to Fort Lauderdown and the whole crew 23 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: is going down there. Got a lot of folks. Some 24 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: of these people I've never even seen in person. By 25 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: the way, AJ King, who does our social force and 26 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: does a great job Cytaj if you know, you know, 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: I've never even met him in person, only on zoom. 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: So I'm very much looking forward to meeting some of 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: our longtime employees that I talk to on a daily 30 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: basis in person. So we're gonna be down there. Make 31 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 1: sure you tune into that it is tomorrow on all 32 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: sorts of different platforms. We'll be on CBS Sports HQ. 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: That's the portion of the day where I'll have to 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: dress up like a banker and wear a jacket, but 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: then I get to strip it down and we get 36 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: to go over to YouTube and just be normal. Imagine 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: people like you and I just wearing normal shirts and 38 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: talking about college football instead of trying to pretend like 39 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: we are putting a man on the moon. Listen, it's 40 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: their network, so I address how they tell me to, 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: but you get it. So we will be on the 42 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven Sports YouTube channel for a majority 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: of the afternoon. But we're gonna book ended with appearances 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: on HQ, and we have a special edition of Late 45 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: Kick Live tomorrow night. We're doing it from Fort Lauderdale. 46 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Never done it from down there before. Last time we 47 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: tried to take the show on the road, we had 48 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: a little snafoo. I haven't told you that story, have 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: I I'll tell you the story since I'm not angry 50 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: about it anymore. I've just learned lessons from it, So 51 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that story in a little while. But 52 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: we got to dive into a mailbag this morning. As expected. 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: A lot of you have been asking about the transfer portal, 54 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: and some of you also asked about why the last 55 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: true edition of the Late Kick Extra podcast we did 56 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: sounded so terrible, and a lot of you are really 57 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: nice about it. You were kind of trying to beat 58 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: around the buys to say, a great show today, but 59 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: what about this It's okay. I went back and listened. 60 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: I thought it sounded terrible too. Producer Jordan thought it 61 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: sounded terrible. It's not a problem on his end. We 62 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: don't think it's problem with something I may have accidentally 63 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 1: hit on this microphone, but it sounded like every time 64 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: I talked and then took a breath, sounded like I 65 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: was drowning in the middle of an ocean. I don't 66 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: know what caused it, and I hope that this record 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: is not like that or else. This sounds really stupid, 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: but we're gonna try and get past that. So a 69 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: lot of questions about that problem may be solved, a 70 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: lot of questions about the transfer Portland, about all these 71 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: players going all over the place. If it's a problem, 72 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: we haven't solved it. If it is a solution for 73 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: your program, maybe you found it and we got to 74 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: start with the big breaking news last night. Normally I 75 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: would save all this for Late Kick Live tonight, but 76 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: we don't have an episode tonight because I will be 77 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: in the air somewhere over my home state of Georgia, 78 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: en route to rainy Florida. How disappointing, by the way, 79 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: how disappointing do you think that was for me? I'm 80 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: in Nashville, which is the most north I've ever lived 81 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: in my life, and I know that we're going to 82 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: be able to take a trip in December to South Florida. Now, 83 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: how does that sound to you? It sounds like an escape. 84 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like a work trip, sounds like a vacation 85 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: masquerading as a work trip. But then you get closer 86 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: and closer and closer, and you look at that eight 87 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: day forecast and you realize, oh cool, it's going to 88 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: rain all week in South Florida. That's great. And see 89 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: the sun. The last time you see the sun in 90 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: South Florida will be on your approach when you start 91 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: your descent, you know, and you go through the cloud deck. 92 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Apparently the next time I will see the sun somehow 93 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,279 Speaker 1: will be when I come back to Nashville. I am disappointed. 94 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: I really wish you guys had better control of your 95 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: state down there. Normally I love Florida, but I gotta 96 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: be honest, I'm not crazy about what I'm seeing right now. 97 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: But we'll be down there anyway. More on that later. 98 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: Let's get back on track. A lot of you obviously 99 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: asking about the transfer portal. There was big news last night. 100 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: This is why it's so critical to be tuned in 101 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: this time of year. Look, if you do believe in 102 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: the off season, we don't. But if you do believe 103 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: in one, don't let it start early. That's like being 104 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: a senior in high school, but kind of checking out 105 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: midway through spring semester. Listen, if you've got good grades, 106 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: it's probably not going to matter. But if you're a 107 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: borderline kid, some of us live that life. If you're 108 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: a borderline kid, you got to keep it nose to 109 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: the grind until they hand you that diploma and they 110 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: put that weird looking cap on your head or else 111 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: those juniors that you've made fun of for the past 112 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: year may end up being your classmates this fall. So 113 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: keep it focused. I know we got Christmas coming up, 114 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: but keep it focused. Got signing they coming up, but 115 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: keep it focused. I could just go on and on 116 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: and on about what's distracting right now, but the transfer 117 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: portal is churning. It's on fire. And if you were 118 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: not tuned in last night, South Carolina made big moves 119 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: and a lot of you asked about it. Many of 120 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: you Carolina fans asked about it just because you want 121 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: to be told how great you are. I have no 122 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: problem with that. I don't say that in a mocking tone. 123 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 1: So I'm about to tell you how great this was. 124 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: But the others of you kind of asked about it 125 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: in a curious manner like, what does this mean for 126 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: South Carolina? Is this an indication of bigger things moving forward? 127 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Is this the last time that we could see a program, 128 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, come from the dead and all of a 129 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: sudden own a day or maybe just own the cycle 130 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: of the transfer portal? Well, No, I don't think this 131 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: is the last time at all. I tend to remember 132 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: that Michigan State made pretty big splashes plural this time 133 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: last year with this. So here's what happened if you 134 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: missed it. Spencer Rattler, former starting quarterback there a former 135 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy favorite if that matters to you at Oklahoma, 136 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: and Austin Stagner, one of their former second team All 137 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: American tight ends. They both are headed from Norman to 138 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: Columbia South Carolina. Now, let me give you a little 139 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: behind the scenes on this. The transfer portal is still 140 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,479 Speaker 1: new and so the way people handle it is still 141 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: being figured out. And by people, I mean coaching staffs. 142 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of coaches and most of 143 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: the time I don't know more than they do. Sometimes 144 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: I've heard something maybe that they haven't heard, But you 145 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: get a little bit more heads up than I thought 146 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: I would. Sometimes that these things are going down, So 147 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: I had a little bit of a heads up where 148 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: this was trending. But also there is a lot of 149 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: due diligence that has to be done, and sometimes you 150 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: find out about what one program is going to do 151 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: by another set of coaches. So it's really weird sometimes 152 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: if you tried to play connect the dots on how 153 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: did this person know that? It's kind of like in 154 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: coaching searches, how did this person know that coach was 155 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: going there? Good luck, it's a spider web. You would 156 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: never figure it out, so don't even bother. But there 157 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: was a heads up I would say by about forty 158 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: eight hours or so that something like this was about 159 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: to go. Now Carolina was positioning to make a pretty 160 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: big move. But also here's what's the inside baseball portion 161 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: of it. They are trying to figure things out the 162 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: same way you and I are. They're trying to figure 163 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: out where someone else is going, who else may be 164 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: coming on the market that's not already on the market, 165 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: because you don't want to make a permanent roster move. 166 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: And then twenty four hours later you see, oh, I 167 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: didn't know he was going on the market. If we 168 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: would have known that we would have held off what 169 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: Carolina was doing their due diligence, as every program is. 170 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: Behind the scenes, they surveyed the landscape. As I tweeted 171 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: last night, they assessed the situation, and then Shane Biemer 172 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: and his staff realized it's time to choose Portal Violence 173 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: registered trademark. Now Portal Violence was initiated, and they go 174 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: and get Spencer Ratler, and they go and they get 175 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: Austin Stogner. I'm really crazy about Stagner. By the way, 176 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: I know everyone knows about Rattler. I thought Stagner was 177 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: going to end up in Columbus. I thought he was 178 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: going to end up at Ohio State. So he goes 179 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: to Columbia South Carolina. So what does this all mean. Well, 180 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: here's what it means. First and foremost, even more so 181 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: than the personnel, it means South Carolina's here. It means 182 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: they're here. It means they're taking this thing seriously. It 183 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: means they're going to be a force to be dealt 184 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: with in this arena. Now, that doesn't mean that they're 185 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: going to pull in Michigan State next year and all 186 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden ascend to the top ten of the 187 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: playoff rankings late in the season. That's not what that means. 188 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,239 Speaker 1: That's not what you being here means. What being here 189 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: means is you're gonna matter. They're going to know who 190 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: you are. You're going to be a factor. That's what 191 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: it means initially, So purely from the Carolina side of things, 192 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: it's big because this doesn't happen in some vacuum and 193 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: then it doesn't impact the future. If I am a 194 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: junior in high school right now, or maybe I'm a 195 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: sophomore in college. I'm looking and I'm saying, Oh, Wow, 196 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 1: those guys, and I know both of their names. I've 197 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: been following them. I've seen them in the news. I've 198 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: watched them on TV already. I've seen some of them 199 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: on the cover of magazines. Wow, those guys show South Carolina. 200 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: That's interesting because up to this point, I don't know 201 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: much about Shane Beemer. Unless I'm a South Carolina kid 202 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: or I'm in the South. Maybe I don't know a 203 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: lot about Shane Beemer. Interesting they chose him. Okay, let 204 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: me just file that away in my memory bank. Now. 205 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it won't matter for me in particular down the road, 206 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: or maybe it will. But everyone just noticed this, and 207 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: so it's always going to be there when you flip 208 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: through the little rolodex in the back of your mind 209 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: of potential landing spots down the road, or if you're 210 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: a recruit, potential destination spots, that's there. You just remember 211 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: that that matters very much. It's a data point in 212 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: history to draw them. Here's the best way to correlate 213 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: it to your life. If you bet a lot and 214 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: you bet a Temple game one time, and you bet 215 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 1: over forty two, and they got to thirty one before 216 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: the half, and then they totally sat on the ball 217 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: in the second half. Next time, three weeks down the road, 218 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: there's a Temple game and you want to bet the over. 219 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: You want to know what you're going to think about. 220 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: You're going to think about that. You're going to say, 221 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: do I really want to bet this over? Because boyd Temple. 222 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: I remember one time it looked for all the world 223 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: like they had that over locked up, and then they 224 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,439 Speaker 1: totally took the air out of the ball in the 225 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: second half. It's there, it's in your memory bank, it 226 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: is fresh, and that little rolodex in the back of 227 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: your mind. It matters. It's going to impact POTENTI your decision, Well, 228 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: if South Carolina's making moves or if your program's making 229 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: moves all of a sudden, if it didn't involve you 230 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: a month ago, but now all of a sudden, you 231 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: have your own decision to make. It's in the back 232 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: of your mind. So that's important. South Carolina Planet subseds. Secondly, 233 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: which really should be the first point, they got two 234 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: really dynamic players that are going to improve their roster. 235 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: That matters also. But zoom it out, zoom it out. 236 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: If you're a Texas Tech fan, or if you're a 237 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: Cow fan, or if you're a Kentucky fan, this matters 238 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: to you too. And here's why it matters. There is 239 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 1: a very very big dynamic shift happening in college football 240 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: and none of us really fully know what the ramifications 241 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: are going to be. So last year, one of the 242 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: ramifications early on of the transfer portal was in Michigan State. 243 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: As I mentioned before, Michigan State and mel Tucker. They 244 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: were able to somehow come into a season where the 245 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Vegas over underwin total for that team was four or 246 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: four and a half and they ended up winning ten games. 247 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: How did they do that? Well, obviously you had to 248 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: have a really good coaching there, really good organizational structure 249 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: and the like. But what they did is they attacked 250 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: the transfer portal. They brought in a lot of guys 251 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: that since they weren't initially recruited by Michigan State, they 252 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,959 Speaker 1: weren't baked into the roster, and then the transfer portal 253 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 1: additions were not properly baked into the formula to decide 254 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: how good they were going to be next year, And 255 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: they overachieved relative to everyone's expectation. Not even the wildest 256 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: of Michigan State fans expected what they achieved this year. 257 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: So now we got to South Carolina data point to 258 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: look at in our own right. What does it all 259 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: mean is what everyone wants to know. Well, I think 260 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: what you're seeing here is you're seeing two examples. This 261 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: is limited, but we'll see how big the sample size gets. 262 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: You're seeing two examples of programs that are not perennial 263 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: top five recruiters. We won't be looking at Alabama, Ohio 264 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: State and Michigan State, or Alabama, Georgia, Texas A and 265 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: M and South Carolina on signing day. It won't stack 266 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: up that way, probably never will. But what we are 267 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: looking at is this entire new layer of the recruiting process. 268 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: I just call it rebounding for lack of a better term. 269 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: You don't all ways get to take the threes. You know, 270 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: if you're South Carolina, you don't always get to go 271 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: after the five star guys. You can go after them, 272 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: it's not likely that you beat out the premier programs 273 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: to land them. Ditto for Michigan State. But what we're 274 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: learning now with a transfer portal is you don't always 275 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: have to be the one taking the three. What you 276 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: do need to be is you need to be able 277 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: to box out down low. Here we go late tip 278 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: college Basketball special. You need to box out down low, 279 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: and you need to be able to get the rebounds. 280 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: These premier recruiting programs think of them as high volume 281 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: three shooters, and they shoot and they shoot and they shoot, 282 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: and even if they're Steph Curry, they make a high 283 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: percentage of them, but they don't make all of them. 284 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: They don't have room for all of them to play. 285 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: Or you could also have a situation like you have 286 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma right now, where maybe they did play, but 287 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: whatever happened happened, or maybe the coaching staff moves on 288 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: and it's not a good fit with the new coaching staff. 289 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: Regardless of why they're in the portal, they're in the portal. 290 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: That's your rebound opportunity. You got to be really good 291 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: at the rebounds. You've got to be really good at 292 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 1: getting the ones that don't go in. That's what South 293 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: Carolina just did. South Carolina did not have a good 294 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: shot at Spencer Rattler out of high school. It doesn't 295 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: matter now because he's going to be dressed in South 296 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: Carolina attire this fall. Diddo with Austin Stagner, didn't have 297 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: a shot with him really out of high school, but 298 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: he's there now. Michigan State with most of the guys 299 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: they just brought in last year, Jerome Ford at Cincinnati, 300 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: they didn't have a shot at him out of high school. 301 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: Now he's going to be their number one running back 302 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. This is just really good rebounding. Now, 303 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what could happen down the road. Maybe 304 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: it's in the near future, maybe it's not in the 305 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: two distant future. If you're a fan out there, as 306 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 1: many of you are, of a traditional B or C 307 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: tier program, I'm going to let you decide where you 308 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: fall in the pecking order. But you know what I mean, 309 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: if you're not what they would call a traditional blue 310 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: blood program, if you're not there, if you guys don't 311 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: recruit in the top five or maybe even top ten, 312 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: this is your shot to win a national championship if 313 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: you have a solid roster. So you can't be recruiting 314 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 1: in the forties or fifties. But if you have a 315 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: solid foundational roster makeup, this is your opportunity because what 316 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: you're missing really is a couple of dynamic pieces. Think 317 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: about how many points per game Bryce Young is worth 318 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: to Alabama Bryce Young versus his replacement this year. In fact, 319 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: on this particular Alabama team, you could also use Jamison Williams. 320 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, how many points has he been worth? That's 321 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: Alabama's number one wide receiver? Where's number one? Actually, there 322 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: is a long way to go between Jamison Williams and 323 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: the next best receiver Alabama has, especially now that John 324 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: Metchi is out. How many points is he worth? And 325 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: now I want you to think about someone of that 326 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: caliber being on the open market, because he was last year. 327 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: Now you may say, well, Josh, when those kinds of 328 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: players go on the open market, they'll always end up 329 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: going to another eight year program. Maybe they will. I 330 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know that. I would assume that because you 331 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: never know what external factors could be in play. You 332 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: never know what kind of guy left your area geographically 333 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: to go all the way across the country to a school. 334 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: Now he's just homesick. So let's take a player the 335 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: caliber of Jamison Williams, but let's just say he's kind 336 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: of homesick looking for any excuse to get close to home, 337 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: and your program, your eight and four, seven and five 338 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: caliber program, historically just happens to be the closest to home. 339 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: You never know when that's going to pop up. And 340 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: my point there is you don't need fifteen of them 341 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: if you otherwise have a solid roster and you've got 342 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: a really good structure. You never know any given year 343 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: what adding one or two cannonball splash type additions to 344 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: your roster could do. And then you get the added 345 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: benefit of not only what you get out of them 346 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: that particular year or those particular years, but then you 347 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: also do it South Carolina just did you kind of 348 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: put it in the public psyche, You kind of put 349 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: it in the back of the public conscience. Hey, this 350 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: is a thing. Now, coming to South Carolina is a thing. 351 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: Maybe not out of high school, but coming here. We're 352 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: kind of a transfer portal destination spot. Michigan State's already 353 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: done that in the short time the transfer portal's really 354 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: been around. Michigan States already established themselves. So I think 355 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: South Carolina and Shane Beemer, that would be my approach 356 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: if I were them, If I were Pittman at Arkansas, 357 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: they just got Jaden Hazelwood out of out of Oklahoma. Rather, 358 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: I would do exactly that. I would build a solid foundation, 359 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: and then I would look to own the transfer portal, 360 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: float in the twelve to twenty range recruiting, and then 361 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: make a couple of splashes in the portal and let's 362 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: see where that goes every year. And oh hey, by 363 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: the way, notice the two programs I just mentioned, South 364 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Carolina and Arkansas. They also happened to be the programs 365 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: that really overly emphasized culture in their hiring. Got Sam 366 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: Pittman at Arkansas, he is Arkansas. Got Beamer at South Carolina, 367 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: he is Carolina. You know, we're pulling for both of 368 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: them on this show. Because we love culture fits, we 369 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: love program fits, and therefore we think college football needs 370 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: more of them. And for more of them to happen, 371 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: you got to have incentive, and the incentive is seeing 372 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: other people succeed in doing that, even if it means 373 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: going off the beaten path looking for coaching candidates. So 374 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: congratulations and hat tip to both guys. Brennan is up next. 375 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: I was going to answer this the other day, but 376 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: we kind of got sidetracked. So Brennan had a really 377 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: interesting question here. Now listen closely, because we've talked about 378 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: this before and I don't want to go down the 379 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: whole road of restating my entire argument. Brennan said, you 380 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: have said putting G five teams in the playoff is 381 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: like a remeeting student getting straight a's. Why doesn't that 382 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: same comparison work for hiring coaches that are doing well 383 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: at lower programs? Now quickly, very quickly. What he's saying is, 384 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 1: I have made the argument in the past that when 385 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 1: we just blindly compare all of these resumes and pretend 386 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: like all of these programs are playing comparable schedules, you're 387 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: kidding yourself. When we get to the playoff selection process, 388 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: when we get to the playoff ranking process and you 389 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: got someone lying to you and saying you are what 390 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: your record says you are. That's like walking into a 391 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: school and saying, well, you are what your GPA says 392 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: you are. Well, that's not true. That's only true if 393 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: everyone's taking the same classes. But they're not. And so 394 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,479 Speaker 1: the metaphor I used is what if I was just 395 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: just going to school and say I need the four 396 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: smartest kids here. And so I went and got the 397 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: highest GPA in the advanced placement classes, and then I 398 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: went and got the highest GPA in the regular classes, 399 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: and then I went got the highest GPA in the 400 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: remedial classes, and I just pretended like those were equal 401 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,439 Speaker 1: because the GPAs were equal. Well, that's not equal. And 402 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: so I said, in years past, the people who have 403 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: argued that the ucfs of the world they just belong 404 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: in the playoff because they're undefeated, that would be like 405 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: me walking in and saying, all right, the kid who's 406 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: making straight a's in the remedial class, we absolutely have 407 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: to take him over the kid who's got a B 408 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: plus average in the advanced placement class, because well, he's 409 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: just got a higher grade well, that's not the full context. 410 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: So at college football, likewise, you've got to bake in 411 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: strength of schedule way more so than they do at 412 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,159 Speaker 1: the pro level, because there is way more volatility in 413 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: strength of schedule at the college level. That's why I 414 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: don't believe in autobids for conferences, because any given year 415 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: you could just have a trash conference and it doesn't 416 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: mean anything to me that you won the conference in 417 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: and of itself, because you could have been an average 418 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,719 Speaker 1: team and done that in that given year. So anyway, 419 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: now that we've got the context out of the way, 420 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: Brennan is saying, Okay, if you feel that way, and 421 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: you feel like just because a G five team won 422 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: their conference and has a good record, that doesn't automatically 423 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: qualify them for the playoff, why don't you feel the 424 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: same way about these Power five programs hiring G five coaches. 425 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: Shouldn't the same logic stand just because that G five 426 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: coach has achieved down there, you know, it doesn't automatically 427 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: mean that he's going to achieve up here. That's true. 428 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't view this as apples to apples, but this 429 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: is a really good question. So let me take a 430 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: couple of minutes on it. There is a difference here. 431 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: To me, one is a job market and one is 432 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: a merit based competition. But this also happens to be 433 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: a perfect point to insert another argument for a G 434 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: five playoff. Sounds like it's out a left field, but 435 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: it's really not. Let's say, I am judging you as 436 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: a coach, not your team. I'm just judging you as 437 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: a coach, and I'm trying to compare you to maybe 438 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: other coaches at all different levels. Well, here's the fortunate 439 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: part you as a coach. If you're the coach at 440 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: Louisiana Monroe, I get to judge you every Saturday because 441 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: you're playing against programs that have comparable resources to you, 442 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: or roughly comparable resources. You're playing in a conference that 443 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: has other teams and they largely have the same resource pool. 444 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: I'm not taking Louisiana Monroe and marching them into Auburn 445 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: or marching them into Texas A and m in normal 446 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: conference play and trying to judge you as a coach 447 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: versus those teams. That result doesn't tell me much of 448 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: anything because they have way more to work with than 449 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: you do. So I get to see you every Saturday 450 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: on that scale, and the ultimate way to judge a 451 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: coach and how he would do at the highest level 452 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: is how is he performing against teams with comparable resources. Now, 453 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: think about what I'm saying very closely here. I know 454 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: it sounds complicated, but it's not. Here's the difference in 455 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: judging the coach versus me not wanting those G five 456 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: teams to have an auto spot in the playoff. When 457 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: I see that coach achieve at Louisiana Monroe and I 458 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: need to hire someone at the University of Tennessee, I 459 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: don't look at him and say, good, that coach is 460 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 1: achieving at UL Monroe. So I'm going to bring him 461 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: to Tennessee, and I'm going to give him the exact 462 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: same things he had at UL Monroe and expect him 463 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: to compete in the SEC. No, that's not what I do. 464 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: What I look at is I say, he achieved with 465 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 1: equal resources in that conference. So therefore, if I bring 466 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: him to this conference and give him equal resources, it's 467 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: stands to reason he should also have a good shot 468 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: at achieving. Here, notice what I changed. I changed the 469 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: status quo. The status quo being the resources he has. 470 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: He's got better facilities, he's got a much bigger recruiting budget, 471 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 1: he's got a much bigger staff, he's got everything bigger. 472 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: That's what it would take for him to compete. Here 473 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: in the playoff selection process, we're not doing that. We're 474 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: watching programs with less resources, and we're watching programs with 475 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: lesser talented rosters, and we're watching programs with weaker relative schedules. 476 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: Compete and then put up a record that looks like 477 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: the big boys and saying they're equal to the big boys. 478 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: They deserve a shot against the big boys. No, they don't. 479 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: They don't at all. What I would love is I 480 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: would love the check and balance to be in the 481 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: process of a G five playoff. That way, if you 482 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: are Central Florida and you are dominating at your level, 483 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 1: you get a tournament at the end of your season 484 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 1: filled with teams on your level, so that you can 485 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: compete at your level. I'm not going to blindly respect 486 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: the result you put up at your level when it 487 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: comes to comparing you to teams that are above your level, 488 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: competition that is above your level. I respect the result. 489 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. It sounded like I don't I 490 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 1: respect the result. I don't respect being told to compare 491 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: it to programs that are playing at a much higher level. 492 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: I don't respect that. I hope that made sense. It 493 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: may not have. If it didn't, it's my fault. Look, 494 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: I've got to do a radio hit in Portland. It's 495 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: about to happen right now now. I was also about 496 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: to answer a question from Steven about Dan Lanning at Oregon. 497 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: And so the best thing I think to do is 498 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: what I've never done before. And I'm just gonna literally 499 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: hold the phone up to the mic when we go 500 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 1: live here in a couple of minutes, and whenever they 501 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: asked me about Lanning, I'm just going to record it 502 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: in the podcast. So this is the classic killed two 503 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 1: birds with one stone. Let's toss the break and we'll 504 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: be right back. And hey, let's just see where this 505 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: takes us. Okay, So I'm on hold. We're about to 506 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: do a radio hit up in Portland. This is Dirt 507 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: and Sprague, a lot of you know them in the 508 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest. Let's just see where this goes. Let's see 509 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: what they want to know about the hiring of Dan 510 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: Lanning at Oregon. 511 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: Friendship CBS Sports and you can find him on Late 512 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: Kick Live, the Late Kick podcast with Josh Paid on 513 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: Twitter at Late Kick Joshka macpol. 514 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 3: He's one of our favorites in Nashville, Tennessee, and he 515 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: joined us. 516 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: Now, good morning, Josh, thanks for hopping on with us. 517 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so let me tell you what's going on right now. 518 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: So I'm in the middle of recording the aforementioned podcast, 519 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: and I had literally come to the point in the 520 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: podcast where I was going to talk about Dan Lanning 521 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: to Oregon, and then I realized, Hey, I got to 522 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: go on in Portland. How about this. How about I'll 523 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: just keep the podcast going and the portion of this 524 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: interview that has to do with Dan Lanning, I'll just 525 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: let it double this podcast recording. So we're actually recording 526 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: the pod right now. So welcome to the podcast, guys. 527 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 3: Hey Dana, Oh, it's nice to be on man yesterday, 528 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: asked josicam On and he started. 529 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: With no, and I'm like, ah, and then you make up. 530 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 2: Let's get into it. Then Dan Lanning, Oregon hires a 531 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: guy that most people out here. 532 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: Had never even heard of. 533 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: He's thirty five, the coordinator. 534 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: From Georgia, supposed to be a great recruiter, that's about 535 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: as much as we really know. You're a little more 536 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: closer over there, you follow the sec probably closer than 537 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 3: a lot of us. What can you tell us? Did 538 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: Oregon hit a home run in this and a guy 539 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: that not many people knew about? 540 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 1: I like the hire, yeah, I really do. I want 541 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: to always wait when you hire a coordinator or a 542 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: G five guy, I always want to wait for him 543 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: to fill out his staff before we pass full judgment 544 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 1: on it. But the initial take was love the hire. 545 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: Now here's one thing you need to know. So when 546 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: Saban or Kirby, when they have assistant coaches in the Southeast, 547 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: they don't really let him talk to the media. They're 548 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: like a couple of times a year they let him talk. 549 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: So people have watched Dan Lanning, but unless you've actually 550 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: had access to the program or you've seen him in 551 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: the coaching clinic circuit, you don't really know a whole 552 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: lot about his personality. But if you are close to him, 553 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 1: you know he's got a really fiery personality. I think 554 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: all the feedback we heard yesterday from the players talking 555 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: about how he's really hungry, he's determined, he's motivated. He've 556 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: viewsed that as a destination job. I can guarantee you 557 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: that's all valid. Now here's what I love about it. 558 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: What I love about it is he and many coaches 559 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: were up for this job. I know from talking to 560 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: folks around the South, they looked at the Oregon job 561 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: specifically as a west coast destination because they have the 562 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: same kind of critical factors and traits in the evaluation 563 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: and development process that Mario does. Mario had essentially been 564 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: out there and already put together what they would view 565 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: as an sec kind of roster, a style of roster 566 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: that they were going to want to build anyway. So normally, 567 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: think about this. If you were a guy at Georgia 568 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: in years past and you were going to take a 569 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: West coast job, the first thing that comes to your 570 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: mind is, well, I'm going to have to overturn the roster. 571 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: You don't have to do that at Oregon because the 572 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: critical traits and factors and characteristics Mario looked for, that's 573 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: the same thing Dan Lanning's going to look for. So 574 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: that was bonus number one. Here's bonus number two. And 575 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: I think Mario really revealed this to them a lot 576 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 1: more than even they were aware of. At Oregon. That 577 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: is the brand appeal is real. Everyone's bragged about the 578 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: brand appeal of Oregon, but they never really fully put 579 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: it into practice. In recruiting, Mario went all over the country, 580 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: took that little yellow o with him, and he walked 581 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: in living rooms all over the place. Trequest Bridges is 582 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: from Lynette, Alabama. I covered him in high school. They 583 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: got him to leave rural Alabama and go all the 584 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: way to the Pacific Northwest. They did it because that's real. 585 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: But you got to give kids a reason to go 586 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: up there. So Mario gave them a reason to go 587 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: up there. Dan Lanning, I think will also give them 588 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 1: a reason to go up there. I think people are 589 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: going to love him up there. And I also welcome 590 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: this change that I was told would never come again. 591 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: Of major programs like Notre Dame with Freeman, or like 592 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: Oklahoma with Venables and now Oregon with Landing given defensive 593 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: coaches a chance, because like three or four years ago, 594 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: I was told that would never happen again. 595 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: It's always got to be the up and coming offensive mines, right, 596 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: They're the only guys that can get jobs. And on 597 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 3: that note, Josh, like, I thought it interesting that they 598 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 3: went that direction in the current state of the conference, 599 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 3: right like you have Lincoln Riley get hired down at 600 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: USC Kalin de Boorr, who's a good offensive mine in Fresno. 601 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: He goes up to Washington. 602 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 3: We know what Jonathan Smith has done, and I think 603 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 3: he's a brilliant offensive mine down in Corvallis. But you 604 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 3: like that kind of counterbalance of saying, hey, you guys 605 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 3: are all going to try and you know, run up 606 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 3: the score and score a bunch of points. We're gonna 607 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: try and find somebody that can stop you. 608 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, if I were to look at Lincoln Riley, and 609 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: that's absolutely where the focus is right now in the 610 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: Pac twelve, if I were to look at Lincoln Riley, 611 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: I would not ask how has he done in conference play? 612 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't just look at that. I would 613 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: look at how he's done in postseason play. I would 614 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: look at what has stopped him and I've seen him, 615 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: you know. I would go back to the reference point 616 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 1: of Alabama a few years back and how they got 617 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: a twenty eight zero lead early, or why has Kansas State, 618 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: let's go to the conference. Why has Kansas State had 619 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: some success? Why has Oklahoma always dropped a game or two. 620 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: It feels like every year that's kept them from playing 621 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: for a national title. Well, that's what it is. You 622 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: came up against a team that was more physical than you. 623 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: You came up against a team that could own the 624 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And so I know it looks like 625 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: running around everyone is the formula for success sometimes, but 626 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: if you can run through people, there is still no 627 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: better path between you and a championship than being able 628 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: to run through people. Okay, and we're back. I just 629 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: finished the interview and we're back. I know it all 630 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: sounds like it happened in real time, but that was 631 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 1: about a twenty to twenty five minute span. Hey, those 632 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: radio hits, we do them all day. I'm all across 633 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 1: the country doing those. Don't ever think for a second 634 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: they don't care about their football on the West Coast. 635 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: I'm on the West Coast all the time. I do 636 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: La I do Portland, as you just heard, I do 637 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: Portland a lot. So yeah, they love their football out 638 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: on the West Coast. Don't believe all the stereotypes. That's 639 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: not all true. Also, before we wrap up today, I 640 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: did want to tell you this. I promise you the 641 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: story and I completely forgot to tell it. So a 642 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, as you know, for the SEC 643 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: Championship Game, we were going to do Lake Kick Live 644 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: on Thursday night in Atlanta. And it wasn't that we 645 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: had travel issues. We were there and it wasn't that 646 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: we had motivation issues. Boy, we were ready to go. 647 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: It wasn't that we had venue issues because we had 648 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: our choice. We were going to go to either Mercedes 649 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: Benz Stadium or we had the entire College Football Hall 650 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: of Fame just given to us long after they closed 651 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: at five o'clock. So we're going to do our show 652 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: from an empty college Football Hall of Fame. Well, that 653 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 1: was ready. Here's the problem. An unnamed shipping company failed 654 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: to get half of our equipment to Atlanta in time, 655 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: and then they tried to tell us it didn't exist 656 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: like we had been in Detroit the week before. Here's 657 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: how this works on the road. We go on the 658 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: road and Big Game Dane, who is our on site 659 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: producer and camera operator. He logistically handles all this stuff. 660 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: So we're at Ohio State and Michigan the week before. 661 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: This is a ton of equipment that we travel with 662 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: to do full broadcast live hits, and so what we'll 663 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: do frequently, and he did this week, is he'll package 664 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: it up and he'll ship it from Detroit right onto 665 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: the next city we need it in, in this case Atlanta, 666 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: so it gets there in plenty of time. You just 667 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: ship it to your hotel all as well, except for 668 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: this time when you get to the hotel the next 669 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: week heading into the weekend, and there is half of 670 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: the equipment there and half of it is I don't know, 671 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: shruggy emoji. No one knows. And then you hit up 672 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: the unnamed shipping company and they tell you, yeah, we 673 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: don't have a record of that existing, which is fascinating 674 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: because half of it got there, so there's evidence that 675 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: this stuff does exist. It's not like we should half 676 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: of it and threw half of it in a recycled 677 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: bind somewhere. It does exist, but they tell you it's 678 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: got to be missing for I think the number was 679 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty days before they can actually classify 680 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: it as missing. How great, By the way, to know 681 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: around the Christmas season, kiddos, if you don't get your 682 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: presence on Christmas, it's okay. Don't cry until March because 683 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: then and only then can we safely assume that Santa 684 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: has not come. So I'm at the College Football Hall 685 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: of Fame. It is an hour and a half before showtime. 686 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: Director Colin and producer Jesse are back in Nashville. They've 687 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: been working all day. Full disclosure. We had three new 688 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: PAS in the building that day, production assistance, that's what 689 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: PA stands for, and we had them and that was 690 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: going to be their first show, and we had Big 691 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Game Day and myself there in Atlanta, and then we 692 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: realize we are not going to get our equipment here, 693 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: and so we had to call it. And I had 694 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: one of two choices. Either we could do a ratchety 695 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: cell phone or laptop version from the roof of a 696 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: parking deck or a hotel, or we could just put 697 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: it off and we could bring you the broadcast you 698 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: used to And I made the decision, We're not doing it. 699 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: There's a certain standard that we're going to meet in 700 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: our broadcast, and if we cannot meet it, then we 701 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: are not going to settle for less. We're just not 702 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: going to do it. And so that night instead I 703 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: went and did a Twitter Space event. My first will 704 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: not be my last. That Oregon. Twitter space probably changed 705 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: the game over the past weekend. If you know, you know, 706 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: and if you don't, I talked about it in the 707 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: last edition of Late Kick Live pretty extensively, so I'm 708 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 1: going to do more of those anyway. But that was 709 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: my first foray foray how do you say that word? Foura? 710 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: My first foray something along those lines. My first dip 711 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: of the toe into twitter spaces was that night. But 712 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: that's what happened, so those of you who were wondering, 713 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: that is how that went down, and we were unable 714 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: to get a show on the air. Luckily, this is 715 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: just between producer Jordan and I, so rarely do we 716 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: screw up unless I have breathing issues on air, and 717 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: that's really more a mic issue than me. But I 718 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: got to get this sent off. We have got Late 719 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: Kick Live coming up Wednesday night Wednesday Night, guys, and 720 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: then again on Thursday night. So you're gonna still get 721 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: your shows. They're just going to be backed up a 722 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: little bit with me. No show tonight, but we will. 723 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we'll do a Twitter space tonight, 724 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: depends on what time we get to Fort Lauderdale. I 725 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: think I'm you know, if they're smart, they'll take me 726 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: out to eat tonight, won't they. I mean, could I 727 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: not reasonably expect to be wined and dined when I 728 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: go down to CBS Sports HQ. I mean the Mothership, 729 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: that's what they what they tell me it is, and 730 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: it's going to be raining all week, so we'll see. 731 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: But keep it locked on Twitter either way. At Late 732 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: Kick Josh, that platform is very important, guys, because we 733 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: don't always have the mechanisms in place to be able 734 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: to communicate immediately, and so that's why, especially this time 735 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: of year, but I would say all year, you need 736 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: to be following there at Late Kick Josh, Instagram, same 737 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: way at Late Kick Josh. One more question before we 738 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: get out of here. Some of you have asked, what 739 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: about Rominuddle Express Bowl picks. Yes, they are coming. I 740 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: want rosters finalized. I am willing to sacrifice early line 741 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: movement in Bowl season for knowing roster moves and knowing 742 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: who's opting out and who's not. So that's why I 743 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: have not put those out yet. But yes, those are coming. 744 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: We will have several of them, so just stay tuned 745 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: for that until next time. For producer Jordan I am 746 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: Josh Fate. Have yourselves a great rest of your day, 747 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 1: and God bless