Speaker 1: No, it's the one between two Eyes on Me to
Speaker 1: me against the world, against the world. There it is.
Speaker 1: Was that ninety four? I feel like that was like
Speaker 1: ninety four was right before. No, It's like that shit
Speaker 1: came out right before all Eyes on Me. That's when
Speaker 1: people were like, is this guy okay? It was ninety
Speaker 1: five or something or March ninety five. Yeah, yeah, And
Speaker 1: by then I had a shitty enough little mustache that
Speaker 1: I was able to buy that album. One Tupac, Sir,
Speaker 1: one Tupac for me? Would you like one as well? Brian?
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, two PACs of me and my pal, my
Speaker 2: college roommate over here. This is my colleague in my
Speaker 2: colleague would like two tupacs four pops if you will.
Speaker 1: It's a joke we make down at the market. Dose.
Speaker 1: I'd rather do tupac. Yes, that's French. We're world travelers.
Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, thirty nine,
Speaker 1: Episode three of der Daily's Like I Say production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday,
Speaker 1: May twenty second, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: Guess what for all the people who wanted to burn
Speaker 3: sometime on that computer lab computer library computer. It's National
Speaker 3: Solitaire Day and the image seems to be like the
Speaker 3: Windows stock version of Solitaire, which shout out to like
Speaker 3: the tropical fish cards.
Speaker 1: I feel like I always like to do the card
Speaker 1: on that mode anyway.
Speaker 3: It's also Emergency Medical Services for Children Day, National Vanilla
Speaker 3: Pudding Day, National Bio Musical Instrument Day, in National Merit
Speaker 3: Time Day, shout out to boats.
Speaker 1: And shit, shout out the boats and sit. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: they have like an update to the Solitaire game? People
Speaker 1: playing more high tech like three D graphics Solitaire. I
Speaker 1: don't know, you see the flip of the card man?
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, would you would? I? I don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I feel like they do. They do nominal
Speaker 3: upgrades to it.
Speaker 1: But I haven't been like on a PC and then
Speaker 1: been like I'm gonna play Solitaire in maybe ten years.
Speaker 1: So most Solitaire ever played work in the front desk
Speaker 1: at a health club, like a fitness club. Just yeah,
Speaker 1: Solitaire for.
Speaker 3: Days, because it was like for a while, like that
Speaker 3: was just like the one way you could get away
Speaker 3: with doing some other shit like at a job or something.
Speaker 3: Like you got a computer and You're like, do you
Speaker 3: either have ski free Solitaire or Mine Sweeper or that kind.
Speaker 1: Of shit, and you would just Mine Sweeper a Solitaire,
Speaker 1: And then I was like, man, this is rough. Anyways,
Speaker 1: my name's Jack O'Brien aka every pass you take and
Speaker 1: every move you make, every time you take masturbation breaks
Speaker 1: your car watches as you. Oh, can't you see your
Speaker 1: car smells your d I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: how they do it. I don't know how they're doing
Speaker 1: how they know about our sexual activity. That one is
Speaker 1: courtesy of Macaroni on the discord. Yeah, our cars know
Speaker 1: about our sexual activity. I'm coming up with my best
Speaker 1: guess on that one. That that was an addition for
Speaker 1: me that I I think it must be smelling smelling
Speaker 1: you to be like, oh yeah this guy. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: like I just if the seats like I gave you,
Speaker 1: if the seats can air conditioned, then I guess it
Speaker 1: could reverse the function and a cool air they can
Speaker 1: probably inhale some too. Yeah, well some musty air. Glad
Speaker 1: Glad my car doesn't have that feature on it. I'm
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: mister Miles Gray Miles Gray here.
Speaker 3: Akay, look it's a showgun win Noogun the Lord of
Speaker 3: Lancersham currently watching Gojira Godzilla minus one. I've watched it
Speaker 3: two and a half times now.
Speaker 1: Right now, well we're watching it right now. Bro. Wow
Speaker 1: that she came out of nowhere again. I'm sorry every time,
Speaker 1: every every single God anyway, I'm distracted, I'm distracted. But anyway, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. I'm i am here, I
Speaker 1: am hey man anytime, not watching God's uh myles. We
Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat once again,
Speaker 1: been way too long by a brilliant and talented political
Speaker 1: strategy of storyteller artist who writes and has performed her
Speaker 1: poetry on stages everywhere, including the White House. Please welcome
Speaker 1: test I'm.
Speaker 4: I'm excited for that.
Speaker 1: Good to have you, good to have you.
Speaker 4: To be clear that way, it wasn't like this White House.
Speaker 4: It wasn't the last White House. It was like Obama's White.
Speaker 1: House, you know, yeah, yeah, it was Obama was white
Speaker 1: yeah yeaheah, it was. It was Trump, right, big Trump,
Speaker 1: big Trump then yeah, and he in turn big fan
Speaker 1: of poetry, so it makes sense, my Muslim poet yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love invite my favorite Muslim poet Lauriates to the elector.
Speaker 1: And now has I met his movie? The biopic is
Speaker 1: getting getting some heat over in con Yeah, that's like
Speaker 1: a big movie.
Speaker 4: Wait, there's a Trump biopigrum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with Jeremy Strong playing what's his name? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then Jeremy Strong playing Trump, Jeremy Strong playing Trump's like mentor,
Speaker 1: although that would be kind of surreal to see the
Speaker 1: Jeremy Strong version like just you know him being uh,
Speaker 1: you know, succession boy. Then just saying like yeah that's
Speaker 1: Donald Trump. That's fine, we'll run with that. I'd rock
Speaker 1: with that. And then like, what isn't it one of
Speaker 1: the guys who is like producing it is like a
Speaker 1: huge Trump don't owner? And now he's like trying to
Speaker 1: threaten it by being like, I didn't know you were
Speaker 1: going to make that kind of movie is going to
Speaker 1: be like a glowing portrait. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder furious about it, it says billionaire Trump daughter
Speaker 1: Dan Snyder reportedly furious after watching Trump film he funded
Speaker 1: tried to block its release. That's wonderful, is that? Dan Snyder,
Speaker 1: who used to watch footballers yeah, yeah, wow, amazing.
Speaker 3: Who would have thought someone who was resisting the name
Speaker 3: change of the most racist one of those racist team names.
Speaker 1: Ever, it was like, I think we're gonna want to
Speaker 1: keep it. Yeah, I think let's keep let's keep that. Man.
Speaker 1: My goodness, what's new with you anything.
Speaker 4: I have a poetry book that just came out at
Speaker 4: this planet, just to believe.
Speaker 1: Grasping at this planet, just to believe. Ah, hover looks beautiful.
Speaker 4: Thanks. We've been writing poetry for a long time, kind
Speaker 4: of like on the side of everything I do in
Speaker 4: my life. And this one is a collection of poems
Speaker 4: I wrote over the course of Ramadan, which is the
Speaker 4: holy month for Muslims, and so I would write poems
Speaker 4: every day. I had a group. We had like a
Speaker 4: group of seventy people. Oh wow, And this is a
Speaker 4: collection of poems written over ten years, which I'm really
Speaker 4: excited about. I'm excited to have it out in the world.
Speaker 1: Wait, seventy people writing poems together, poetry to Yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 4: The book is the book is just my poems. But
Speaker 4: we had seventy people writing daily poems.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I know a lot of writers who are Because
Speaker 1: Hollywood has stopped employing writers since the strike. Basically, I
Speaker 1: know a lot of writers who are like getting into writers'
Speaker 1: groups and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, it's the only way I can write.
Speaker 4: I have a writer's group I meet with, Like, I
Speaker 4: have a writer's group every day of the week. In
Speaker 4: ADHD world, is called body doubling, where you need to
Speaker 4: see another body working so that you can be inspired
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, yeah that say that again. I'm just yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm really coming to terms with the fact that like
Speaker 1: I don't, like, I really have bad add that I'm
Speaker 1: this is.
Speaker 4: It's why, like the only projects I've been able to
Speaker 4: get off the ground are ones where I have like
Speaker 4: someone that I've like been working on it with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm co host. We do a show every day.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jack, this is this is But every
Speaker 1: time I don't record, every time I don't record the show,
Speaker 1: I don't I don't bathe I could barely eat. I
Speaker 1: track everything, and then I'm right back into it when
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Jack's eating too, Okay, I'm gonna do that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. Yeah, yeah, I have a real
Speaker 1: uh what's that? What's that show with Adam Scott Severance? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a real severance thing where I just come
Speaker 1: to and I'm recording this show and then when I
Speaker 1: don't go away and don't remember anything, and they're like,
Speaker 1: how was work, And You're like, I think, think good good, Yeah, let.
Speaker 4: Me press play and find out.
Speaker 1: Shit. Well, congratulations on the book. We're going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we are going to tell the listeners a couple of
Speaker 1: things we're talking about today. We have an update, So
Speaker 1: Red Lobster did officially file for bankruptcy. The New York
Speaker 1: Times wrote a very like poetic like sort of oh
Speaker 1: bit for the company. But we have a little bit
Speaker 1: more on what was going on. It seems like there
Speaker 1: was some chickanery happening behind the scenes. You will not
Speaker 1: be surprised to learn, I think we mentioned this before,
Speaker 1: but that they were bought by private equity in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the clock just started taking in twenty fourteen. Basically, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk. Scott Johansson has lawyered up because because
Speaker 1: of open Aye's assistant basically sounding exactly like Scarlett Johansson
Speaker 1: to the degree that they like did this massive launch
Speaker 1: and then had to like take it back down. So
Speaker 1: we're just going to talk about that. There is president
Speaker 1: for people like there's a lot of Internet legal experts,
Speaker 1: which is where I get all my legal advice, of course, Yeah,
Speaker 1: who are like, you can't copyright a voice, so Sam
Speaker 1: Altman is fine, leave him alone. The same people who
Speaker 1: are like, just just mail yourself a copy of your
Speaker 1: script and it's copywritten. Yeah, exactly, oh is it? But
Speaker 1: it turns out that's not the whole truth. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about Jesse Waters mocking rage rituals on his show and
Speaker 1: getting owned by guests, just the rhythm of the Jesse
Speaker 1: Waters show, which is just I'm starting to think he
Speaker 1: has like a humiliation fetish. But we'll talk about it.
Speaker 1: Something he's a sad guy, all of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first has we like to ask our guests, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history?
Speaker 4: Okay, I got on the Bridgerton bandwagon. I googled did
Speaker 4: banks exist in eighteen thirteen?
Speaker 1: BECAUSEY talking about the one sister who's rocking the band.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that one sister has like the really long bangs,
Speaker 4: and I was like, this looks like a ninety, you know,
Speaker 4: like a twenty twenty bang.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So then I googled, and then then I went down
Speaker 4: this like rabbit hole of learning about hair during the
Speaker 4: regency era. Right, So I guess they did have bangs.
Speaker 1: Oh they did.
Speaker 4: I just I just didn't believe it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there are some paintings they're just like, not
Speaker 1: the famous one, but it was their name? Is it Eloise?
Speaker 1: Who got the banks?
Speaker 4: Well like this that one sister had like really long
Speaker 4: banks And I was like, because the first one in
Speaker 4: season one she had that short, weird short like Audrey
Speaker 4: Hepburn type bangs.
Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah Eloise Elois got yeahs yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: It was like did they have banks?
Speaker 1: When did bangs start?
Speaker 4: I don't know that's what.
Speaker 1: Is that? Something you can google? When did the When
Speaker 1: did bangs start? I'm looking up portrait de la trie
Speaker 1: Jean Samari by Renoir. It's a portrait painted in eighteen
Speaker 1: seventy seven, and she's working with bangs. She looks great
Speaker 1: banks by the way.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, girls always get banks and they like break
Speaker 4: up with guys. So I feel like.
Speaker 1: Yeah forever, Yeah, I gotta gotta try to bang out.
Speaker 1: Also there's I mean, well Caesar, right, isn't the Caesar
Speaker 1: a very banged male haircut in a way. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: bangs bands the front, that's all. Yeah, yeah, it's a Caesar.
Speaker 1: All hands on deck to the front of the class.
Speaker 1: This is this is an interesting page. That's just like
Speaker 1: ancient ages bangs and it's got some like Egyptian Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the Egyptians were rocking bangs fourteen nineties to the fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: Bangs had a little bit of a moment of course,
Speaker 1: was rocking bangs, R bangs around totally.
Speaker 4: Bang's been around.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like those doo though in my mind also,
Speaker 3: I'm like the bank It's so funny because looking at
Speaker 3: that character. I'm watching this new season too, and it
Speaker 3: feels like it's it's like a it's like a wig bang,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like bangs, like it's part
Speaker 3: of the hair piece. So like yeah, sometimes it has
Speaker 3: like different like levels of body to it. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: mister playing with these fake bangs. And then I was like,
Speaker 3: is were there is this allowed?
Speaker 1: Were I keep googling?
Speaker 4: I've been watching this whole season just like well, like
Speaker 4: the last season there was like an Indian character, so
Speaker 4: it was like did people from India go to England
Speaker 4: and I was like, duh, of course we were calling
Speaker 4: nice by them, so that makes sense right right. I
Speaker 4: was googling. I don't know if you saw Caught in
Speaker 4: this last season, there was like a rotating band. The
Speaker 4: band was rotating in the center of the dance floor.
Speaker 4: Oh no, you know, like a pedestal. Yeah, And I
Speaker 4: was like, how did that happen? Did they do that?
Speaker 4: I don't know everything every episode I googled something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, was there like a little mouse doing like a
Speaker 1: powering a wheel that was making it rotate?
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I was like, they
Speaker 4: didn't have electricity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that's the thing where like obviously
Speaker 1: they take liberties, especially with like race relations. There are
Speaker 1: some Irish people underground, just like shoveling cold working the fellows, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Did you watch Queen Charlotte though, That's like the closest
Speaker 1: one where they reckon with like the post racial kind
Speaker 1: of vibes of the show. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: because every yeah, the other ones always Charlotte. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like googling her. Then I found like all
Speaker 4: these old pictures of paintings of her and what she
Speaker 4: was supposed to look like. And apparently she wasn't as
Speaker 4: gorgeous as they make her out to be in the
Speaker 4: real in this TV show.
Speaker 1: And neither was King George.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this whole the whole series. Have been googling a lot.
Speaker 1: Realizing like, maybe I'm not watching it for the historical
Speaker 1: accuracy at all.
Speaker 4: Oh this is picture, this is made. I've got it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it, love it, love it, love it.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Okay, underrated for my type of people? I went to
Speaker 4: bass Pro Shop yesterday.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, shop, I love yo. You nailed it by
Speaker 1: like I think, not my thing but bass. But yeah,
Speaker 1: unless that's unless there. Yeah, like you're like, yeah, had
Speaker 1: to put fifteen's in my in my Honda, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, putting a new sound system in there
Speaker 1: to put some Subwolf first base. I went to bass
Speaker 1: pro Shop. You know we do it. Okay, So a
Speaker 1: bass pro shop and what would you say? We're there?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm going camping this weekend, so I needed a
Speaker 4: sleeping bag. But you know you're in there, there's like
Speaker 4: stuffed bears, there's geese flying, you can there's a whole
Speaker 4: aisle for beef jerky. Yeah, there's every kind of cooler
Speaker 4: you what, I don't know. I was really impressed. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was impressed.
Speaker 1: What got you the most the beef jerky aisle.
Speaker 4: The beef jerky isle was very intensive because there was
Speaker 4: like I didn't realize there was so much equipment involved
Speaker 4: with jerking beef and you could get a gun with
Speaker 4: you put seasoning in and shoot your meat.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I spent a lot of gun to beef.
Speaker 1: They also have sleeping bags that come out of a gun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have pillows shoot out of a baska.
Speaker 4: A mosquito gun where you like shoot it with a gun.
Speaker 4: I was like, how are you going to shoot a mosquito.
Speaker 1: With a gun? What is it? What comes out of its?
Speaker 1: Probably the salt one probably right, like the bug blaster
Speaker 1: that they use for flies, so you know things like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's like the one used with flies and you
Speaker 1: basically fill it up with salt and the little gran
Speaker 1: granules of salt act is like buckshot to just like
Speaker 1: blow their wings apart and render them useless or dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really cool, really high tech stuff, really high tech stuff.
Speaker 1: You've never been to a vast pro shop I've just
Speaker 1: driven past them on the outside, but they do look
Speaker 1: like magical places.
Speaker 4: Oh you should go, You'll spend hours and hours.
Speaker 3: We were just talking about how they like a racist
Speaker 3: gun collection, like some of the Yeah, yeah, like gun collections.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say the first time I went, I
Speaker 4: was like, oh my god, brown girl going into the store,
Speaker 4: that I'm going to get like harassed. But you know
Speaker 4: it was fine.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait where you or are you going? Are you
Speaker 3: doing a desert camp? Are you doing a forest camp?
Speaker 1: We're going to.
Speaker 4: San luc on the I think, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I know. I have a group of camping friends, so
Speaker 4: like we go camping, Like during the pandemic, we were
Speaker 4: going camping every other month, so I had like have gear.
Speaker 1: Yeah what happened You didn't have a sleeping bag already?
Speaker 4: Oh I did. I wanted a better one.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're leveling up, You're okay, okay, I forget that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you weren't using the one with the orange one that
Speaker 1: had Michael Jordan printed on the front like all the
Speaker 1: kids had in the nineties.
Speaker 4: And I also got it like leveled up in the lantern.
Speaker 4: I got a headlamp this time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get a headlamp, huge interchangeable lenses. I
Speaker 1: think you want to go to red to red lights.
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Got one of those.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, I know i'd see the coyote, but
Speaker 1: they can't see you. That's sort of So is is
Speaker 1: beach camping like even colder? That was a question that
Speaker 1: I had. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh my god, so cold.
Speaker 1: The night is so cold, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: We used to do that in high school, go down
Speaker 3: to Leo Correo Beach and get like because I was
Speaker 3: like the one place where like as kids were like, yo,
Speaker 3: you can go down.
Speaker 1: As a kid and get so drunk and smoke weed
Speaker 1: all and no one gives a fuck. And that was
Speaker 1: my first four ray into beach camping, was being so underprepared,
Speaker 1: but just to be like, well it's a place to
Speaker 1: drink alcohol without adults around, so we will camp. That's fun. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: good luck with your camping. Good luck? Did you did
Speaker 1: you make out? Did you come away? Are you the
Speaker 1: type of shopper who goes in, gets the thing and
Speaker 1: can get make it out of there without picking up
Speaker 1: extra like impulse bies? I bought a bear horn?
Speaker 4: What am I going to do with a bear horn?
Speaker 1: Corn? Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was like, do I buy a bear spray or
Speaker 4: do I buy a bear horn? I mean I didn't
Speaker 4: even need I don't even know if there's bears at
Speaker 4: this camp, I'm probably fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about each bear camping, but yeah,
Speaker 1: why not?
Speaker 4: I was the bear.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. They're like, you know, you know what
Speaker 1: you're gonna need.
Speaker 4: No, I have told myself to myself.
Speaker 1: Like that. I was like, you, like, an, I got
Speaker 1: bear spray, No, you need a bear horn? So what
Speaker 1: that shit is just so loud that it just will
Speaker 1: put a bear off and they will retreat.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I like was stearing at the aisle
Speaker 4: items for a very long time?
Speaker 1: Or is it the other most powerful thing I could
Speaker 1: imagine where it calls bears to you, like an army
Speaker 1: of bears.
Speaker 4: Oh right, and you're just supposed to play dead, right,
Speaker 4: Like one of them you're supposed to play dead, the
Speaker 4: other one you're supposed to run as fast as you can,
Speaker 4: which I can never tell which one it is, because
Speaker 4: like black bears and brown bears like kind of like.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, well, I think it's
Speaker 1: like whichever one starts with a bee is like make
Speaker 1: yourself big, except they bust start with a bee.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it says if you counter a grizzy, but
Speaker 1: do not play dead. Stand your ground, don't turn your
Speaker 1: back and run. Speak firmly. That's what the grizzly. It said,
Speaker 1: do not play dead with a with a grizzly, stand
Speaker 1: your ground. Yeah. So just like act, I think you
Speaker 1: just got to get lookro we're not about to be
Speaker 1: disseminating bear survival information. We should have doctor ray Wing.
Speaker 1: Except out here someone's be Like I was listening to
Speaker 1: the Daily like guys and they said start playing Kendrick
Speaker 1: Lamar not like us and seawalk and the bear will
Speaker 1: turn no again. I was like trying to come up
Speaker 1: with the new monic. I was like, grizzly bear, give
Speaker 1: him a scare, but that also works for black bear.
Speaker 3: So like I gotta come up with if the bear
Speaker 3: is black, lie on your back.
Speaker 1: There it is okay. These are not right. These are
Speaker 1: not run around go to town. Wait, aren't you a
Speaker 1: scout leader? Shouldn't you be kind of known? Like I'm
Speaker 1: a Scout leader for kindergarteners. Man, they're not gonna remember
Speaker 1: any of this ship.
Speaker 4: No gonna remember. Yeah, if there's a bear there, if
Speaker 4: you're going.
Speaker 3: To remember for the rest of that, they said the
Speaker 3: only time he said. Playing dead may work if you're
Speaker 3: being attacked by a mother grizzly defending her cups, but
Speaker 3: is the wrong thing to do if you're being attacked
Speaker 3: by predatory bear.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry. Are you a mother? And are you
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to get some context as to what
Speaker 1: this interaction is before I decide what my strategy will
Speaker 1: be here. Yeah, but if you're if they're hungry, they'd
Speaker 1: be fine with you just playing dead, well they you, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is nice. Actually, but bear smart dot com in
Speaker 1: their myths section told me to do this. Bearsmart dot com. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the first one Google served me. Again, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if this is even useful, That's what I said.
Speaker 1: This is Yeah, this is not bear information we're giving up.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure I'll be fine on this camping trip.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, all that.
Speaker 3: It'll just be like the It'll just be like you know,
Speaker 3: because like beach campers also have like a vibe too.
Speaker 1: I feel like the people who you know, beach camp
Speaker 1: like it's it's more the humans you want to keep
Speaker 1: your eye on than like the wildlife.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back, and we're back. That's actually that's the thing, right,
Speaker 1: the bear versus man thing, where it's like which one
Speaker 1: should you be more afraid of? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 4: The question that's being asked of all women right now
Speaker 4: is like, if you go into the forest, would you
Speaker 4: rather be stuck with a bear or a man?
Speaker 1: A man? Right?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Bear?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah? Is it a mother grizzly
Speaker 1: who wants to protect her cut? Right, because that's actually
Speaker 1: the situation I want to be in because I'm very
Speaker 1: lazy and I just want to play that right and
Speaker 1: then stop, it's not even fair? All right? Uh So,
Speaker 1: updating the sorry about Red Lobster declaring for bankruptcy. They
Speaker 1: have officially done it. Wait, what was the overrated again?
Speaker 1: Amark tripping overrated?
Speaker 4: Oh? I didn't do overrated?
Speaker 1: Oh, I just wrote San Luis Obispo because you had
Speaker 1: mentioned that next year overrated for no reason. Oh oh
Speaker 1: oh oh yeah yeah, I think no, I fucked up, Tess.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? Oh?
Speaker 4: My god, I want to say democracy interesting. I want
Speaker 4: to say I'm not democracy itself. I want to say
Speaker 4: this election cycle and getting these stupid texts from the
Speaker 4: Democratic Party that are like, time is crunched, don't you
Speaker 4: want to donate to us? And then I respond with
Speaker 4: what about the genocide? And then no one responds to
Speaker 4: my text.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, you were asking about democracy and you're like, no, okay,
Speaker 1: yeah we got another we're asking about the genocide. I
Speaker 1: got another one that was like have you given up
Speaker 1: on Joe Biden? You're like, and they just don't give
Speaker 1: up on me, babe. Yeah, they're still doing that shit
Speaker 1: where they like, are they're using the this rhetoric. This
Speaker 1: has happened so many times.
Speaker 3: And my mom also has given my number to the
Speaker 3: Democratic Party, so I also get her spam text and
Speaker 3: there's always this one that just is.
Speaker 1: Not mad, just disappointed. I saw that the time please
Speaker 1: sign to confirm your support for Joe Byron in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Oh boy, yeah yeah, so yeah, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're saying democracy as it is being
Speaker 1: used rhetorically to tell people like, don't demand more of
Speaker 1: the incumbent, but what about democracy?
Speaker 4: Which is yeah, well, look like I have a twenty
Speaker 4: five year long career in doing electoral politics. I have
Speaker 4: been spent my whole life. I've spent my whole life
Speaker 4: getting out Asian Americans and Muslim Americans and South Asians
Speaker 4: to vote, and and I like created all this messaging
Speaker 4: around like you know, we need to go vote so
Speaker 4: that we can show these people in power that we
Speaker 4: have power. They need to be held accountable to us.
Speaker 4: And I feel like in the past six months that
Speaker 4: rhetoric has, like the mainstream rhetoric, has just made every
Speaker 4: reasoning I've ever done in my campaigns kind of fall apart.
Speaker 1: And it just.
Speaker 4: I haven't been able to work an election cycle this time.
Speaker 4: I do not have it in me to like re
Speaker 4: enter this kind of civic engagement world, which is awful
Speaker 4: to say because you know this that I've been doing
Speaker 4: this work for twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Like I'm so.
Speaker 4: So like heartbroken by like how how like democracy has
Speaker 4: been falling apart in this this time period that I
Speaker 4: would just rather write poems in the corner of the
Speaker 4: world instead of like trying to encourage someone to go
Speaker 4: vote in this in this period.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, it's it feels like it
Speaker 3: many people are like just reaching that point where it
Speaker 3: in past cycles, like it's been easier to like sort
Speaker 3: of connect yourself to the stakes and like why it's
Speaker 3: like why this is important. But it's just like, also
Speaker 3: you see the cynicism of just like the people in
Speaker 3: power and how they rule, and you're like, this is
Speaker 3: so fucked Like we're just we're just talking about democracy
Speaker 3: like it's some like this myth thing, Like it's not.
Speaker 3: I don't see it functioning in any fucking way at all,
Speaker 3: aside from the fact that there are elections where people
Speaker 3: vote and they count votes for things. But in terms
Speaker 3: of the idea of like an electorate also being able
Speaker 3: to exert any kind of influence over their elected officials
Speaker 3: that I mean, like just look around. I feel like
Speaker 3: I see story after story work that is not the
Speaker 3: case at all.
Speaker 4: Yeah, even that what we've heard about like Congress people
Speaker 4: like people are calling into their Congress members about what's
Speaker 4: happening in Palestine, and those calls are being deleted by
Speaker 4: the staffers, Like so we're the people in power aren't
Speaker 4: ever actually hearing from the electoric.
Speaker 1: Because it is. He gets mad at me if people
Speaker 1: call about that. He gets so stressed out, so we
Speaker 1: got to delete it so he doesn't do we get
Speaker 1: more Goza calls today. No, no, everybody, the phone was
Speaker 1: like ringing all day. It was just it was it
Speaker 1: was just like telemarketers. You don't keep on keeping on, Senator, Yeah,
Speaker 1: killing it, killing them, killing them, kill them, yes, yes, yes, yes, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's yeah. I don't blame you because it's I mean,
Speaker 1: like the cynicism I feel is at an all time high,
Speaker 1: all time high. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And just the discourse around even like the mere idea
Speaker 3: of people wanting to exert, like exercise or use any
Speaker 3: form of leverage they have to try and get a
Speaker 3: candidate to do something different is being just met with
Speaker 3: like just oh, so.
Speaker 1: You love Donald Trump? Okay, all right, I didn't really. No,
Speaker 1: that's very clarifying. I never said that. Glad to hear it,
Speaker 1: that you love Donald Trump so much. Well, you know
Speaker 1: it's not going to be any better if he's president. Right,
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah you're not. You're completely missing the point
Speaker 1: the point of democracy. Yeah, it's it's not.
Speaker 3: I sit back and I just accept what is put
Speaker 3: in front of me, Like there is a little bit
Speaker 3: of back and forth here, although yeah, like when you
Speaker 3: read the stories.
Speaker 1: Even like it sounds like it's not just fucking Biden.
Speaker 1: It's like there's even senators too who are just completely
Speaker 1: baring their fucking heads in the sand and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know totally these polls are right, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I can't believe it.
Speaker 4: Everyone's so scared to say anything right now. And then
Speaker 4: now now with all the student protests happening, I don't know,
Speaker 4: masks are coming off of all of a sudden because
Speaker 4: students are like practicing their right to protest and their
Speaker 4: right to speak out on these campuses which they're spending
Speaker 4: so much money on.
Speaker 1: Well, right, it's my right as a senator to say,
Speaker 1: I think those kids should be killed. Okay, I think
Speaker 1: exactly they should be deported. Yeah there you go. Oh Jesus,
Speaker 1: that's a solution. Yeah, yeah, because I don't really I'm
Speaker 1: not smart, so this whole thing is very inconvenient for me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, let's felt that one felt that
Speaker 1: overrated for sure, just a little.
Speaker 4: It's just a little overrated.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's also I'm sorry to go back to this,
Speaker 3: like even though so many headlines every day, like with Trump,
Speaker 3: even like with this like latest video he posted where
Speaker 3: there's like something about a unified Reich like in this
Speaker 3: like I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you guys saw this game.
Speaker 4: He didn't see that.
Speaker 3: He posted it and like it's it's like a headline
Speaker 3: from like a World War one thing or whatever. But
Speaker 3: obviously people are like, look, look what he's trying.
Speaker 1: You see what this is? What this guy is gonna do?
Speaker 3: This is and all of the emphasis is on how
Speaker 3: bad Trump is and the idea that no one is saying, well,
Speaker 3: can Biden do better? Like that that is being completely
Speaker 3: obs cured and also is being like erased from the conversation.
Speaker 3: Is so frustrating because it's basically telling everyone in the
Speaker 3: electorate who has a concern or an issue that they
Speaker 3: they want addressed. It's like that actually doesn't fucking matter
Speaker 3: right now, because we just need to focus on how
Speaker 3: bad this fucking guy is. Okay, and I don't want
Speaker 3: to fucking hear it. Okay, I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And yeah, that's just how do you how do
Speaker 1: you look at that as a system and be like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this works, this is good. This this will help. Thanks
Speaker 1: for good is the solution? Yeah right, all right, shall
Speaker 1: we get to the endless shrimp I think big news
Speaker 1: in the world of endless shrimp deals from Red Rodder. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: now it does tie back to kind of a ongoing
Speaker 1: theme here, which is when when there's like a an
Speaker 1: institution in the world of like consumerism, commerce and it
Speaker 1: just like kind of dies even though it seems like
Speaker 1: it's been doing basically the same thing that it's always
Speaker 1: been doing. Toys r Us is an example from the past.
Speaker 1: Jay Crew is an example from the past. KB Toy,
Speaker 1: like all the toy stores, all any company that was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were good at that very specific thing and like
Speaker 1: seemed to be growing and growing, and then they just
Speaker 1: like went away. It's usually because a private equity company
Speaker 1: came in bought them or like became a major investor
Speaker 1: in them. And these private equity companies, which if they
Speaker 1: were acknowledged as like the massive companies that they are,
Speaker 1: like they you know, they're like a bunch of shell companies,
Speaker 1: like embedded with within one another because they don't want
Speaker 1: people to know how massive they are. But if people
Speaker 1: knew how massive they are, they're like the third and
Speaker 1: fourth biggest companies. Some of them are like the third
Speaker 1: and fourth biggest companies in America, like behind Amazon and Apple.
Speaker 1: Like they're these massive companies that operate essentially as a parasite.
Speaker 1: They like get you to commit to them with money,
Speaker 1: and then they insinuate themselves into the bloodstream of your
Speaker 1: business in a way that benefits them and literally kills
Speaker 1: the host and like then they move on. It's they
Speaker 1: got the blood. It's this massive, like clearly broken part
Speaker 1: of how capitalism works right now that nobody's doing anything about.
Speaker 1: And in fact, it like seems like it's like invisible
Speaker 1: to the mainstream media. And like this red Lobster story
Speaker 1: is a great example, Like it hit and everyone's like
Speaker 1: out of business because they fucking did too many stream
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, there's so many jokes and fun headlines about
Speaker 1: I mean we did some thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And
Speaker 1: I think but even then, when we saw that, we
Speaker 1: were immediately like private equity. I think in the middle
Speaker 1: of her like, hold on, let's just google red Lobster
Speaker 1: private equity, and we did, and we're like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: what the fuck it is. And then we're like Okay,
Speaker 1: soon enough, they'll.
Speaker 3: File for bankruptcy and cut to now they have, and
Speaker 3: so the private equity aspect of it, the company, Golden
Speaker 3: Gate Capital basically did what all private equity firms do
Speaker 3: when they buy a brand. They start liquidating assets and
Speaker 3: trying to get as much money out of the company
Speaker 3: as they can cash out of the company as possible
Speaker 3: and drink all their blood because fuck longevity and like so,
Speaker 3: when a company like Red Lobster owns the real estate
Speaker 3: that the restaurants operate on, you have less to worry
Speaker 3: about when times are lean because you don't have to
Speaker 3: worry about like paying rent, because that's not part of
Speaker 3: your operating costs. And that's what makes these private equity
Speaker 3: firms so dangerous. They see that, like, the only valuable
Speaker 3: asset a company like Red Lobster has is the real estate.
Speaker 3: So Golden Gate Capital sold the real estate to help
Speaker 3: fucking fund the purchase.
Speaker 1: Of the company.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then did a lease back where now they're like,
Speaker 3: all right, Red Lobsters, you got to start paying money
Speaker 3: back to the new people that own the real estate
Speaker 3: because we sold it for money for us. This is
Speaker 3: a critic of private equity. I lean apple Bomb put
Speaker 3: it this way, quote. Once they sell the real estate,
Speaker 3: then the private equity company is golden and they've made
Speaker 3: their money back and probably more than what they've paid.
Speaker 3: The retail apocalypse is all about having your real estate
Speaker 3: sold out from under you so that you have to
Speaker 3: pay the rent in good times and in bad And
Speaker 3: so once they got their real estate money, Golden Gate
Speaker 3: sold about a quarter of the company to a Thai
Speaker 3: seafood company, Tai Union, who is now operating the restaurants
Speaker 3: and is now basically holding the bag because they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: this shit is this shit does not work at all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And like we're saying, most headlines you're gonna read about
Speaker 3: this bankruptcy don't mention private equity at all, like in
Speaker 3: the headline, and why would they, because like you go
Speaker 3: to Fortune dot com and it's just like, oh, what
Speaker 3: went wrong with red Lobster And it's like there's not
Speaker 3: even a fucking mention of it. Some articles do explicitly
Speaker 3: mentioned private equity, but not as basically saying like it's
Speaker 3: all because of this is how private equity operates. Like
Speaker 3: they were purchased by private equity firm Golden Gate Capital,
Speaker 3: and the story isn't Oops, we sold too much cheap shrimp.
Speaker 1: It's oops.
Speaker 3: Private equity is fucking hollowing out companies and greed and
Speaker 3: chaos and the markets and sue because of their greed and.
Speaker 1: A jingle Quick starts. Boston Market is also in a
Speaker 1: similar situation due to private equity. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been private equitied up to the gills. There is
Speaker 1: like a story where the shrimp company that like owned
Speaker 1: Red Lobster was then like basically selling, basically committing to
Speaker 1: these massive orders of shrimp so that they could like
Speaker 1: pay themselves essentially, like they were kind of double dealing.
Speaker 1: But again, it like everything, all the laws of like
Speaker 1: the basic laws of like supply and demand and like
Speaker 1: markets just stops functioning when like private equity gets involved
Speaker 1: because private equity is they pretend like they're an owner,
Speaker 1: but they're actually just a parasite that is just trying
Speaker 1: to drain the company of like all money, and they
Speaker 1: don't care if it dies. It doesn't matter to them
Speaker 1: if it dies because they're invisible, So they just get
Speaker 1: all the money and fuck off to the next company
Speaker 1: that they're gonna put out business.
Speaker 4: I mean, I really I feel like this should be illegal.
Speaker 4: But then it's like what you said, it's private because
Speaker 4: we have all this protection around what we have protections
Speaker 4: around monopolies, we have protection around they're trying to like
Speaker 4: get TikTok banned in the US because they you know,
Speaker 4: we have all these other laws protecting businesses. I don't
Speaker 4: understand how they were. They're literally able to sell the
Speaker 4: land underneath the underneath the store out under them well.
Speaker 1: Because it's like, well, we own the company, so now
Speaker 1: we own the real estate, and now we can do
Speaker 1: whatever we want. And now our business model is so
Speaker 1: backwards that we don't care about operating costs because we
Speaker 1: already made our money selling the fucking real estate. And
Speaker 1: who gives a fucking freend lobster eyes or whatever, or
Speaker 1: the people who work there don't have a fucking job anymore,
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, I mean it is difficult because like
Speaker 1: they're really fucked up versions of the story. Like when
Speaker 1: you're talking to a lawyer at the DOJ who does
Speaker 1: was specifically working in like private equity cases is stuff
Speaker 1: when it like relates to things like healthcare, like you know,
Speaker 1: fucking retirement homes and things like that and elder care,
Speaker 1: where these companies just go like, well, we found a
Speaker 1: way to run this business very lean and make a
Speaker 1: profit for ourselves. And now a retirement or elder care
Speaker 1: center is not running like above board at all or
Speaker 1: like just has you know, barely enough staff, barely enough equipment.
Speaker 1: And then when people tragically die, people like the victims
Speaker 1: are the victims or the families of the victims have
Speaker 1: no legal recourse because the way these are structured. They
Speaker 1: go and they're like, well, who actually owns this? I
Speaker 1: mean it's private equity, but the way we're structured is
Speaker 1: we represent a consortium of investors as like a fund,
Speaker 1: so it's there's really like and that's how they get
Speaker 1: away with like this really fucking heinous stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: One thing though, is that it did like Slate dot
Speaker 1: com like they they they acknowledge like the private equity part,
Speaker 1: but they also did a thing about like people who
Speaker 1: worked at Red Lobster. We're talking about how bad the
Speaker 1: endless Shrimp thing was, Like how people would get fucking
Speaker 1: wild over the endless shrimp and they're like, look, man,
Speaker 1: I got literally have a lot of fucking table, Like
Speaker 1: you can't get a to go box. That's the fine
Speaker 1: print of this, right or people, Like they said, one
Speaker 1: person would stay like for hours and like nap at
Speaker 1: the table in between, like heaping servings of shrimp scampy
Speaker 1: o pasta can't make me leave. That's not it. No,
Speaker 1: where's that in your fine print? Asshole?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but you know all these like Asian buffets
Speaker 4: do it, like yeah, the people go and eat the
Speaker 4: shrimp and all those and they're able to survive because
Speaker 4: they're they own themselves.
Speaker 1: Right yeah, and they're like, well, we know how to
Speaker 1: run a business and it's not to be like let's
Speaker 1: make this sell Yeah. Yeah, let's make this as difficult
Speaker 1: for ourselves as possible in terms of operating. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, another one bites the dust. And I didn't
Speaker 3: realize one thing with Boston Market. The thing that's really
Speaker 3: kind of fucked them over. I completely didn't realize is
Speaker 3: they basically gave the rest of like the food service
Speaker 3: world the idea to be selling like delicious rotisserie chickens.
Speaker 3: Oh really that's when Yeah, that's when Costco was like
Speaker 3: I see, and then everyone was like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, just get your Costco chicken. Like like, Boston Market
Speaker 1: just didn't have a way to, you know, to compete
Speaker 1: after that, not that that was like the only thing,
Speaker 1: but that was like a huge Do you guys have
Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers roasters? I think I lived in Kentucky maybe
Speaker 1: at that stage, like early nineties, there was this there
Speaker 1: that was like the first rotissery chicken I ever saw
Speaker 1: was Kenny like a Kenny Rogers owned chain of like
Speaker 1: rotisserie chickens, and that shit was so good. It was
Speaker 1: like yeah, And then I remember Boston Market coming along
Speaker 1: Boston Chicken I think it was called back then, yeah,
Speaker 1: Boston Chicken. But yeah, I feel like I was at
Speaker 1: the early adopting edge of rochessery chicken. Back then, they
Speaker 1: only had one Kenny Rogers I remember in the Valley
Speaker 1: was in Burbank, and I just never I was like,
Speaker 1: I never, Like I didn't even know who Kenny Rogers
Speaker 1: was at the time. I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is this? And then I then I saw the Seinfeld
Speaker 1: episode and I was like, I think it makes you
Speaker 1: lose your mind. So maybe not. Yeah, this ship was
Speaker 1: founded in ninety one, early days. Kenny Rogers roaster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: God damn, you gotta know one to hold him and
Speaker 1: no one to pull That's right, man, all right, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about open Ai, the other scam of our lifetime,
Speaker 1: and we're back. We're back. And so we talked about
Speaker 1: how chat gbt's new assistant was being sold on being flirty,
Speaker 1: like that was what they talked about at first. They
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, it's like kind of flirty and fun
Speaker 1: and like we'll just it'll be like having a real assistant.
Speaker 1: And then came out and people were like, this sounds
Speaker 1: like Scarlett Johansson's And then fucking Sam All just tweeted
Speaker 1: the word her like he has like a liar, liar
Speaker 1: curse or something. He just like couldn't help himself. He
Speaker 1: was like her, Yes, it's her. And so now the
Speaker 1: story continues to evolve the net now they're basically getting
Speaker 1: in trouble for it. Yeah, I think. So.
Speaker 3: Scarlett Johansson released a statement and it basically outlines kind
Speaker 3: of like what her interactions were with Sam Altman and
Speaker 3: open Ai, and she says that Altman first reached out
Speaker 3: to her in September about potentially voicing Sky because he
Speaker 3: believed it would quote breache the gap between tech companies
Speaker 3: and creatives and something about her voice being like a
Speaker 3: comfort to users, like that would just kind of help
Speaker 3: people transition into this apocalyptic technology or they want you
Speaker 3: to believe it's apocalyptic. Anyway, So she declined. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: let me think about that.
Speaker 1: It's a no for me. Dog, she was like. And
Speaker 1: then so I worked on the film, so I actually
Speaker 1: had to watch it all the way to the end,
Speaker 1: so I know what happened in the movie. It was
Speaker 1: hers like thirty minutes, which is apparently all that you've seen, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to tell a user that I'm
Speaker 1: also having simultaneous conversations with eight thousand other people or whatever.
Speaker 1: That line was in the look that was dope. But
Speaker 1: then so she did so she declined. And then two
Speaker 1: days before the chat GPT demo came out, with the
Speaker 1: sky demo came out, Altman reached out again, asking her
Speaker 1: to please reconsider. Two days before yeah, yeah, exactly, just
Speaker 1: someone probably reminded him, like, a you may want to
Speaker 1: fucking circle back with scarlet Man because anyway, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had his AI legal team, akay, just a real legal
Speaker 1: team look through his interactions and they were like, we're
Speaker 1: fucked here, Sam, You asked her, dude, yeah, there's like
Speaker 1: a paper trail, and before she could say fuck off, dweeb,
Speaker 1: the company went ahead and released the demo.
Speaker 3: And despite the fact that like you said this, motherfucker
Speaker 3: literally tweeted her h e er that when the demo
Speaker 3: was released, he just said, this is a bad mix
Speaker 3: up quote. We believe that AI voices should not deliberately
Speaker 3: mimic a celebrity's distinctive voice. Sky's voice is not an
Speaker 3: imitation of Scarlett Johansson, but belongs to a different professional
Speaker 3: actress using her own natural speaking voice. We cast the
Speaker 3: voice actor behind Sky's voice before.
Speaker 1: Any outreach to mister whitt Wow. Out of respect for her,
Speaker 1: we have.
Speaker 3: Out of respect for her, we have paused using Sky's
Speaker 3: voice in our products. We are sorry to miss jo
Speaker 3: Hansson that we didn't communicate better.
Speaker 1: That is real.
Speaker 4: Do they really think she wasn't going to lawyer up?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: How did they not think that?
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it speaks to an arrogance of
Speaker 1: these people generally that like even when they they think that,
Speaker 1: like they don't realize how eerie their technology is, and
Speaker 1: like Scarlet, like we really think like you can help usher,
Speaker 1: Like they're like, dude, no, so we'll reach out Scarlett.
Speaker 1: She'll be like, yeah, oh my god, it's so cool.
Speaker 1: Would love to be involved. And yeah, there wasn't just
Speaker 1: a massive strike of writers and actors that were all
Speaker 1: about being like yo fuck ai. Yeah, so we want
Speaker 1: to ask her to be her mmm okay. But basically
Speaker 1: it seemed that like once her lawyers she lawyered up
Speaker 1: when she saw this, and once her lawyers asked their like,
Speaker 1: we'd like a step by step explanation as to how
Speaker 1: the voice of Sky was even made open air. I
Speaker 1: was like, it's all good man, taking it down. It's
Speaker 1: actually cool. We actually don't need to give you that
Speaker 1: because we're gonna take it down because we're like, we
Speaker 1: just the thing we hate is a miscommunication. So that's
Speaker 1: why we're taking it down. It has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with like how we came about that and whether we
Speaker 1: had microphones placed around her house to hear how she
Speaker 1: says various or just feted a bunch of movies right
Speaker 1: and trained it on like a bunch of lines of
Speaker 1: dialogue or whatever. And that's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's like, because these companies are already facing huge lawsuits
Speaker 3: from like news outlets and other like writers and things,
Speaker 3: because these models are trained on other people's fucking work.
Speaker 3: So I don't think it's too much of a stretch
Speaker 3: to think that maybe Scarlet's voice may have actually been
Speaker 3: involved with this, like development of the sky voice. Also
Speaker 3: fucking Sky Scarlet, like there's.
Speaker 1: Just sky is where her character goes at the end
Speaker 1: of the movie. Okay, I'm just saying, connect the fucking
Speaker 1: dots smiles or actually her name is Skylight. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: nothing to do with Scarlet, it's that Wait, god, it
Speaker 1: just sounds like an Australian person saying Scarlet, shut the
Speaker 1: fun Scarlet scar Sjanson Skylight jokes dancing. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: full name of her. It has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the movie or that, but yeah, I think what's even wilder, though,
Speaker 1: is recently Sam Altman gave his interview where he was
Speaker 1: asked to predict the future in regards to fucking AI
Speaker 1: and just listen to his answers. He's got some like
Speaker 1: this guy can like see the future in like new dimensions.
Speaker 1: I didn't even like, can't even think of that is crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's being asked by this guy. He's saying, hey, man,
Speaker 1: so like where do you see, like what jobs do
Speaker 1: you see becoming like actually in demand because of AI?
Speaker 1: And this is his very fucking groundbreaking answer.
Speaker 5: That's a great question, and I don't think I've evergotten
Speaker 5: it before. It's people always ask like what job is
Speaker 5: going to go away? The new one is a more
Speaker 5: interesting question. Let me think for a second. I mean
Speaker 5: that there's like a lot of things that I could
Speaker 5: talk about that I think are sort of less interesting.
Speaker 1: Or like such a bullshit try and answer like some.
Speaker 5: Theoris of killing time people do or fifty million people do.
Speaker 5: Get to the answer for the broad category of new
Speaker 5: kinds of art entertainment sort of more like human to
Speaker 5: human connection. I don't know what that job title is going.
Speaker 1: To be, but I think friendship.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if this like we get there
Speaker 5: in five years, but I think there's going to be
Speaker 5: a premium on like human in person and like fantastic experiences.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we'll call that. Yeah, we'll call
Speaker 1: that fucking concert events Disneyland going. I think there's going
Speaker 1: to be like I don't know, like really cool thing
Speaker 1: like premium on like people like sitting around a table
Speaker 1: and like consuming food together or something, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like it's just like really, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's like I'm trying to think like one hundred million,
Speaker 1: fifty million. That's it. Like listen to any like tech
Speaker 1: person like that. They're great at They will compliment the
Speaker 1: ship out of the interviewer, and then they'll also just
Speaker 1: like throw out massive numbers at various points. I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't want to like talk about the ones that
Speaker 1: are going to be like small. I want to talk
Speaker 1: about the ones one hundred three hundred million out of
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah.
Speaker 4: His answer reminds me of like back in the world
Speaker 4: of voting, like four years ago or five years ago.
Speaker 4: That's like election cycle, everyone was talking about relational voting,
Speaker 4: and all relational voting is is like when one person
Speaker 4: and talks to their friends about voting and encourages them
Speaker 4: to vote. But it became as like breakthrough cutting edge
Speaker 4: for your organizing, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a really I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: brilliant page to take out of these grifters in Silicon
Speaker 1: Valley because there is so many things of just pivoting
Speaker 1: and describing something that exists in like these new fantastic
Speaker 1: terms and you're like, oh my god, dude, did you
Speaker 1: hear what Altman said? Premium in person fantastic ex that's
Speaker 1: when you're like, dude, you're cooked.
Speaker 3: Man, if you're if your brain is boomeranging back to
Speaker 3: just regular life as you look into your AI future.
Speaker 1: H that's that's right, Like, like, how is AI connected?
Speaker 1: I think that's true. I think people will in the
Speaker 1: future put more of a premium on being together in person.
Speaker 1: What the fuck does that have to do with AI whatsoever?
Speaker 1: Like the AI will make the experience premium. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: premium in person fantastic experiences where you're like premium and
Speaker 1: just like so like so so authentic, but like so yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, experiential immercy. I want to look like I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not even looking at like ten years from now.
Speaker 1: I'm looking like thirty fifth, like ten centuries from now. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: And that's and that's what I see right now. People
Speaker 1: are people are just gonna be yearning for it, you know,
Speaker 1: and after you know, this will be after the inevitable
Speaker 1: resource wars and we're trying to figure out when I
Speaker 1: own all the water, So you'll actually get into whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck I tell you to be into Yeah, the
Speaker 1: uh is? I was just like kind of seeing what
Speaker 1: they were saying on the open A. I read it
Speaker 1: and like, first there is one person who just quote tweet.
Speaker 1: He was like a thing that I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are missing, and then like just quoted the
Speaker 1: thing where he's like, you know, we got a totally
Speaker 1: different actress who is her own voice, and people are
Speaker 1: uh huh.
Speaker 4: But do we have the audio for the voices?
Speaker 1: No. I was trying to find it this morning. Have
Speaker 1: you been able to find that? Which one like? The
Speaker 1: Scott Sky's voice sounds like, oh yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: think Sky is related to sky Rizzy, by the way,
Speaker 1: and why, hey dad, why do so many people like
Speaker 1: sky Rizzy? Why are so many? Why is sky Rizzy
Speaker 1: so popular? Is a question ts that my six year
Speaker 1: old asked.
Speaker 4: As long as he's not asking you about skibbity again,
Speaker 4: skimmity toilet, he knows what that is. That was what
Speaker 4: we talked about last time I was on your show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, jesus, let's see. Let me see if we can
Speaker 1: hear it here. Hey, catcht How are you doing. I'm
Speaker 1: doing fantastic, Thanks for asking. How about you? Pretty good?
Speaker 1: What's up? So my friend Barrett here, he's been having trouble.
Speaker 1: He's got that rap, you know what I mean, rasp
Speaker 1: to it, you know what I mean? Yeah, And just
Speaker 1: the overall energy is very similar. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah. It's
Speaker 1: like a combination of her voice and like a little
Speaker 1: bit of like Siri mix. Yeah, a little bit hyper, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little Yeah, it's the her voice on uppers Deck.
Speaker 1: What if it was like a little more perky, what
Speaker 1: if it Yeah, yeah, but still got that rasp to
Speaker 1: let people comforting. Also, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 1: fake legal experts in the subwriter are like, well, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can't copyright a voice. So I just
Speaker 1: wish Scarla Johans would just shut up and stop being
Speaker 1: mean to Sam Altman. And what is that even? Based
Speaker 1: on what logic is copyright a voice? So I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. And somebody was like, actually,
Speaker 1: Bette Midler successfully sued the Ford Butter Company in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight because very similar she was approached to sing
Speaker 1: in an ad for Ford, said no, Ford got an
Speaker 1: impersonator instead to sing a Bette Midler song in their ad.
Speaker 1: Gotcha fucking audacity? Amazing? Yeah, Yeah, I keep trying, so
Speaker 1: we'll see, but it is pretty funny that they are
Speaker 1: this fucking stupid. And finally, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: Jesse Waters. This seems to be the rhythm of his
Speaker 1: show over and over again, where he like brings somebody
Speaker 1: on his show, mocks them and immediately gets owned by
Speaker 1: the guest right or right or he. It's usually usual
Speaker 1: foxing where they think they've booked someone who is not intelligent,
Speaker 1: but then actually knows how to speak very well and
Speaker 1: just dunks on him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels like
Speaker 1: his show is structured like the toll Booth Willie skit
Speaker 1: on that Adam Sandler album, where like different people just
Speaker 1: come in and politely tell him to go fuck himself,
Speaker 1: and he's just like fuck you with a polite smile.
Speaker 1: But yeah, in this case, videos of rage rituals in
Speaker 1: which women go to the woods and smash things or
Speaker 1: like shout, how.
Speaker 4: Have I A is a woman not known about?
Speaker 1: Well, you're you're not on TikTok enough, clearly, because that's
Speaker 1: where they're apply.
Speaker 4: This is what I have to do on camping.
Speaker 1: Also, it costs two thousand to four thousand dollars these things.
Speaker 3: Like I get the catharsis of screaming and getting your
Speaker 3: frustration on a very physical way. But to charge people
Speaker 3: two to two grand.
Speaker 1: To do that feels Look, yeah, what does the money go?
Speaker 1: The wellness industry as wild?
Speaker 4: But one day option is two hundred and twenty two dollars.
Speaker 4: What I'm in the wrong industry?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, seriously, yeah, get off. These writers' groups
Speaker 1: start doing rage outs with creatives. We go to the
Speaker 1: woods and we throw rocks into a stream, and it's
Speaker 1: like three grand, pay me, that's it. But Jessee Waters,
Speaker 1: you could probably predict his objection, which is like, what
Speaker 1: are women so angry about? What are they mad at?
Speaker 1: Are they mad at me? They're probably mad at me? Right,
Speaker 1: So he dedicated a segment on his show to this trend,
Speaker 1: asking why are women so mad these days? Gee? How
Speaker 1: much time do you have? Asshole? He said, women are
Speaker 1: very upset. Why mystery? Probably something we did, And then
Speaker 1: he proceeded to condescendingly interview the self proclaimed which Mia Magic,
Speaker 1: who runs the retreats. But she was like, Hey, I
Speaker 1: actually read your shitty book over the week You shouldn't
Speaker 1: say shitty. She was like, I read your book over
Speaker 1: the weekend. Man like, so I know you a little bit.
Speaker 1: So when he balked at the suggestion that men should
Speaker 1: be more emotionally available and vulnerable, Magic countered you got
Speaker 1: a divorce, Jesse. Right, I'm sure you had a couple
Speaker 1: of nights where you were sad and where you felt lonely.
Speaker 1: You know, I think that everyone needs to feel comfortable
Speaker 1: to feel which, yeah, we should just play the quote
Speaker 1: because he's really being a smug prick, and then just
Speaker 1: the chest pass right back. It is like you're divorced, right, Guys,
Speaker 1: you know you're not saying so you're saying a lot
Speaker 1: really fast. So we have to write this down. You
Speaker 1: said listening, holding, listening, nurturing, these things women should expect
Speaker 1: from men.
Speaker 4: Bringing nature, going out into nature, great because nature.
Speaker 1: Okay, listening to them, holding them, taking them on walking.
Speaker 1: This is the first time he's ever heard, am I
Speaker 1: missing anything?
Speaker 4: Asking them what they need for support, asking.
Speaker 3: Them for He's like he's taking a fucking order, like
Speaker 3: someone's bizarre order at the restaurant. Okay, so you want
Speaker 3: to taking someone to.
Speaker 1: Hear your needs? Okay, I never heard that one before.
Speaker 1: All right, go on, Jesse, Okay, these are this is
Speaker 1: this is being vulnerable.
Speaker 4: Being vulnerable, I think men.
Speaker 1: A deal killer. You got divorced, Jesse, Right, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you had a couple of nights where you were sad
Speaker 1: and where you felt lonely.
Speaker 4: You know, everyone the most vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Manual every meet, But we have to go. You're a
Speaker 1: good wach so weird, we have to go.
Speaker 3: Okay, And he said, you're now we gotta go because
Speaker 3: you're a good witch.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, but yeah, it's He's like, I'm I'm the
Speaker 1: most vulnerable. How do I get me out of this
Speaker 1: moment as fast as possible? God? You know he fucking
Speaker 1: like when they like rapped recording, he went to his
Speaker 1: like fucking dressing room and just like looking in the
Speaker 1: mirror with like tears in his eyes. Just smile, never
Speaker 1: bra but just fuckings his veneers cracked through the sheer
Speaker 1: tension in his job. You're good, you're smiling. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: Me and magic though two to four grand like him
Speaker 1: always repeating this same ritual like he's got He's probably
Speaker 1: has like a humiliation thing, right. I feel like he
Speaker 1: was maybe trying not to like have an orgasm during
Speaker 1: during that part where she was humiliating him.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, Okay, there's so many if you just search
Speaker 3: Jesse Waters humiliated. It's like there's like so many things,
Speaker 3: like whether it's like his mom or other guests whoever
Speaker 3: come on, there's always like something and he's like, ayay,
Speaker 3: thank you, okay mom, good, good to know.
Speaker 4: I wonder what his wife is thinking watching this.
Speaker 1: His ex his ex his ex wife, ex wife, that's right,
Speaker 1: X ex wife. Yeah, I don't know my wife anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus dude. Noel Waters. He married her in two
Speaker 1: thousand and nine, went ten years. Filed for divorce in
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, after Waters admitted to an affair with a
Speaker 1: producer on his show. On his show, yeah damn, Jesse,
Speaker 1: damn bro have.
Speaker 4: Written it better?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, should I say to poet, wow, M vulnerable? Yeah,
Speaker 1: gotta get vulnerable with that, I'm sure.
Speaker 3: But you know, like in that instance, do you think
Speaker 3: he really even perceived that divorce as an l He's like, not,
Speaker 3: I found a better one, of course, but I liked
Speaker 3: more than my wife, so I win and she's crying haha.
Speaker 1: Jesse undefeated. Like that was when he like doubled down
Speaker 1: into like his like I'm don draper type of thing
Speaker 1: right around that time. Yeah, huh interesting. Yeah, oh he
Speaker 1: ended up marrying this produce. Oh he really did the switch.
Speaker 1: Wait he admitted to an affair. She admitted to an affair.
Speaker 3: No, he admitted that like he had he had the affair,
Speaker 3: and now he is married to the person that he
Speaker 3: had the affair with. Oh, like he fully did the Tarzan.
Speaker 3: He's like, let me grab the next vine and let
Speaker 3: me let go.
Speaker 1: Of the other one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well he wrote all about it in his book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in no way a self serving account. In no
Speaker 1: way self serving, one sided account of what happened there.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I mean you know what that book is
Speaker 1: called How I Saved the World?
Speaker 4: By No, it's not, is it really?
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Oh boy you And then he has
Speaker 1: another one, Get It Together, Troubling Tales from the Liberal Fringe? Wow,
Speaker 1: get it Together? Which is weird? That is like, where's
Speaker 1: your son?
Speaker 3: Yeahs do you think you talked about the divorce on
Speaker 3: Get It Together? Troubling Tales from the Liberal Fringe or
Speaker 3: How I Saved the World? Because either one, it's weird,
Speaker 3: like how I Save the World, I've been cheating on
Speaker 3: my wife and marrying this associate producer and now having
Speaker 3: my kids question what their family life is about.
Speaker 1: Whatever does matter. I'm we're good here, we're here, We're good,
Speaker 1: We're good. Well, Taz, what a pleasure having you as always?
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
Speaker 4: Well, I'll be in the forest raging and throwing sticks.
Speaker 1: And getting lamming a sand dune with a piece of drift.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like bear horning bears.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Actually, I might have a new podcast coming out soon,
Speaker 4: so keep your eye out on that. Might do something
Speaker 4: with Jenny Yang.
Speaker 1: Oh you love Jenny Yang.
Speaker 4: Very excited about that new project. And you can find
Speaker 4: me on the Internet's at Tazzi Star spelled like Mazzie
Speaker 4: Starr but with a te on Instagram and wherever your
Speaker 4: social media, and you can get my book. Please get
Speaker 4: my book. It's at Large Press and wherever you get
Speaker 4: your books.
Speaker 1: To tell us that name one.
Speaker 4: More grasping at this planet just to believe.
Speaker 1: And we will have that link in the footnotes. So yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're interested in that gang, you will find a
Speaker 1: way to get it. Just check the footnotes.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me this. I always love coming on
Speaker 4: this show.
Speaker 1: It's always having miles. Where can people find you? Is
Speaker 1: there a work of media you've been enjoying? What about Taz? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah and Taz.
Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: I mean Bridgerton Obviously, I've been obsessed with Bridgerton's So
Speaker 4: that is where my head is right now.
Speaker 1: How many episodes are out? I feel like, did they
Speaker 1: put out They did the thing where they put out
Speaker 1: half the season once and then I.
Speaker 4: Basically watched like, I think twelve episodes in the past
Speaker 4: twenty four hours. I think that's what's happening. Shit, Like
Speaker 4: I definitely did a big binge.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was like two days, but that's not this
Speaker 1: this season.
Speaker 4: You're saying, like no, no, no, I did like season
Speaker 4: two and season.
Speaker 1: Three, got it, got it, got it? Yeah, yea, yeah, Okay, I.
Speaker 4: Did a major catch up.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Miles. Where can people find you as their
Speaker 1: working media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray on Twitter, Instagram, wherever they got the ad symbol.
Speaker 1: You can find Jacket on the basketball podcast Miles and
Speaker 1: Jack got Mad Boosties. We're talking about the NBA playoffs
Speaker 1: because now we've got our conference finals set up. In finals,
Speaker 1: the Celtics are cake walk in it. They're sleepwalking into
Speaker 1: the finals and that's okay, and that's okay. You can
Speaker 1: also find me talking ninety milos not and you can
Speaker 1: also catch me talking ninety four to twenty day fiance
Speaker 1: with Sophia Alexandra. Don't have a work of social media,
Speaker 1: but I will say I encourage everybody to watch The
Speaker 1: Godzilla Minus one if you haven't. It's the again, the
Speaker 1: way they make it out like a human story despite
Speaker 1: it being about Godzilla. It's it's it's wild, it's wild,
Speaker 1: and I can't stop thinking about it anyway. That's that's it,
Speaker 1: and that's it from me on that, and that's all
Speaker 1: I've got to say about about that is Miles. You
Speaker 1: can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien tweet
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying, Actually it's a TikTok at Trent Underscore
Speaker 1: Miller Underscore, who is a realtor who does like speed
Speaker 1: tours of Oh, there's just like sprinting from room to
Speaker 1: room and pointing at things while having what appears to
Speaker 1: be a nervous breakdown. Just a lot of fun. And
Speaker 1: then I'm also enjoying a tweet from Othilius Maximus who
Speaker 1: retweeted a video of this Katana becomes engulfed in flames
Speaker 1: when drawn. It's a video of somebody pulling at Katana
Speaker 1: out and it like has a bunch of sparks that
Speaker 1: light it on fire. And Othilius Maximus retweeted that and said,
Speaker 1: this is the type of shit the Jizza wraps about.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah for real. Uh. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian. You can find us on
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Speaker 1: or like off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Miles.
Speaker 3: Oh well, I'm saying, keep your eyes locked on that
Speaker 3: Facebook page all.
Speaker 1: You never know what can you never know what's gonna
Speaker 1: pop up? So good anything at all. But we'll see
Speaker 1: this track. Let's go out on this.
Speaker 3: Mike Will made it featuring Little Uzi vert track called
Speaker 3: blood Moon that came out last year.
Speaker 1: I didn't hear it until I saw it like on
Speaker 1: a on a Twitter clip of Joe Budden acting like
Speaker 1: a hater and then he's like the beat is actually
Speaker 1: pretty dope, and he's like, wait, actually this this, this
Speaker 1: is the way I can I can't help myself. I
Speaker 1: can't help myself. Music is this is good.
Speaker 3: It's making my next snap and it will make yours
Speaker 3: too in the positive way. So again, blood Moon Michael
Speaker 3: made it featuring lil Uzi Furt. All right, we will
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