1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:01,880 Speaker 1: Take a Walk. 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 2: Welcome to Taking a Walk on Buzz Night and We're 3 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: deep into our Fresh Start twenty twenty six theme week, 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: exploring artists to embrace reinvention and forge their own paths 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: and unexpected ways. Rome Ramirez faced one of the most 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: daunting fresh starts in modern music. Imagine being asked to 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 2: step into the shoes of a beloved frontman to carry 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: forward the legacy of a band with a fiercely loyal 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: fan base. That's exactly what happened when Rome joins Sublime, 10 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: with Rome continuing the spirit of the iconic ska punk 11 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: legends while bringing his own voice and vision to the table. 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 2: It takes courage to honor a legacy while making it 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: your own. Rome didn't try to be somebody else who 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 2: became the bridge between sublime storied past and its future. 15 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: He faced the skeptics, won over the doubters, and proved 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: that a fresh start doesn't erase history. It writes the 17 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: next chapter in this conversation shares what it was like 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 2: to step into that spotlight, how he found his own 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: identity within an established sound, and why sometimes the best 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: way forward is to respect where you came from while 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: staying true to. 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 3: Who you are. 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: If you're navigating your own fresh start this year, especially 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: one when you're following in someone else's footsteps, Rome's story 25 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: will resonate, and then he even talks about his new creative. 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: Paths as well. 27 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: So let's talk with Rome on this past episode as 28 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: we celebrate Fresh Start twenty twenty six with Taking a Walk. 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: Next Taking a Walk. 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: Hello Rome, and welcome to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: How's it going, man? Thanks for having me. 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 3: It's going fantastic. Thank you. 33 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: So, since the podcast is called taking a Walk, I 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: wanted to ask you, Rome if you could take a 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: walk with somebody living or dead, preferably music, but that's 36 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 2: not mandatory. Who would you like to take a walk with? 37 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: And where would you like to take that walk? 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: Man, that's a good question. Well, the first person that 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: comes in mind, wud probably be my grandpa, just because 40 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: you know, I feel like as a man now he 41 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: passed away before I could you know, kind of get 42 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 4: to know a little more about or get to the 43 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 4: point where I wanted to know more about the family, 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 4: you know, so probably walk with him, ask them some questions, 45 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: you know, probably explain a lot of stuff that goes 46 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: on in my head anyway. But then in terms of 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 4: like entertainment, you know, if I could take a walk 48 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 4: with somebody man, off the top of my head, like 49 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 4: first person that came to mind was Jimmy Hendricks just 50 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 4: you know, I mean for obvious reasons, but uh, he's 51 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 4: just such a creative guy. I would just love to, 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: you know, hear what kind of like stuff he had 53 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: to say about, you know, just. 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: Just movies and you know, are and just just kind 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: of pick his brain. You know. 56 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: I got chills thinking about both of them, including the 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: Jimmy response. And I have this feeling you and Jimmy 58 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 2: would be kindred spirits because Jimmy seemed to emote this 59 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: tremendous sense of certainly creativity and passion, but amazing sense 60 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: of gratitude. And I see you at this place and 61 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: time in your career, and I feel like you are 62 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: exuding your own sense of this tremendous gratitude. Am I 63 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: right on that? 64 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: Thanks? Man? I'm for sure. 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it's like for me, I've already 66 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: like like done more than I've ever could have imagined, 67 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 4: you know, and there's still things that I do want 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 4: to like a comp and do, but like, once you 69 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: get to a point where you're actually able to, like, 70 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: you know, put food on your family's table through music, 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 4: you know, that's a very very like that's a blessing. 72 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 4: And I don't know, I just I'm like at that 73 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 4: point now, you know, I have three children and my wife, 74 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: and you know, it's like, I'm like very grateful to 75 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: be able to be still playing music and having like 76 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: fans that listen to the music that I make and 77 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 4: music that I've been associated with. And you know, I've 78 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 4: gotten tour the world with my favorite band for more 79 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 4: than a decade. 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I made it out all right. 81 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 4: You know, I'm in a wonderful marriage and I have 82 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: beautiful children, and I'm very grateful for that. And I think, 83 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 4: you know that's that's a huge contributor to even why 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 4: I continue to want to do this professionally. 85 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: You know, I want to put that message out of. 86 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: The world fantastic. We're going to talk about why me 87 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: and the behind the scenes creative process that led to it. 88 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: It's outstanding. And also I want you to be able 89 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: to tell everybody about the music festivals and performances that 90 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: you're going to be certainly, you know, making the rounds 91 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 2: as well. Oh yeah, but you just turned thirty seven. 92 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 2: How do you feel about this milestone? Does it change 93 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: how you look at your music or your life in general? 94 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Uh? 95 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 4: You know, for me, it's like I was just having 96 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: this conversation with my mother in law because I love 97 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 4: growing older, and I know people hate it. 98 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just kind of figuring out like the 99 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: health part. 100 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 4: Of it, you know, like working out and eating right, 101 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 4: like I've been in that world the last like six 102 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 4: months now. But in terms of like, you know, mentally 103 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:04,160 Speaker 4: and emotionally, like growing up is awesome because you just 104 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 4: like you get more and more in tune with what 105 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: you like. And my mother in law was saying, which 106 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 4: which I couldn't help it agree with, but like, you know, 107 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 4: and she's got like twenty years on me. You know, 108 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 4: the older you get, the less like you give a 109 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 4: shit about what people think, and like you just get 110 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 4: more sure of yourself. 111 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: And I just like I couldn't help but agree. 112 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: You know, even at my age at thirty seven, you 113 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 4: just get to this point you know where you're like, man, 114 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: I got three kids that are like doing all right, 115 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 4: Like I'm gonna be fine. Everything's gonna be all right, 116 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 4: and that's not a big deal. That's not a big deal, 117 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 4: you know, and you just kind of get to this 118 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 4: place so to you know, make a long, long answer shorter. 119 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 4: I definitely love the fact of growing and becoming smarter 120 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: and more aware. And you know, the flip side of 121 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 4: that is, you know, time becomes less and less of 122 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:04,599 Speaker 4: you know, something that you have, you know, just in 123 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 4: terms of your responsibilities, and that can put a real big. 124 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Damper on your creative process. 125 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 4: So that's one thing that has been you know, a 126 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: little less than favorable with like growing up. It's like, 127 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 4: you know, I definitely missed the time of just sitting 128 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 4: around and just sitting in the studio all dang day 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: and making music, going to bed and waking up and 130 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: doing the same thing. But that's probably not a very 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 4: healthy lifestyle either. So I'm rolling with it, man, I 132 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 4: love it. 133 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: Tell me what it was like being born and raised 134 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: in California. What was childhood like, and talk about you know, 135 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 2: just that that aspect of your journey in California. 136 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Well, so I grew up in the nineties, 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 4: like your typical nineties child. You know, my earliest memories 138 00:07:54,000 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: of music were Bob Marley, Fleetwood, Mac Motown you know, 139 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 4: so that was like the Supremes and you know, anything 140 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: from Stevie Wonder or Smokey Robinson of course, and Rolling 141 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: Stones and led Zeppelin and hip hop that was on 142 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 4: the radio. So I was like a pretty eclectic, you 143 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: know mix of music. And but I mean it was 144 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 4: like my mom and my dad and those were some 145 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: of my earliest memories were musical memories. 146 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: Really, I was very much a fan. 147 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 4: You know, where I grew up in the Bay Area, 148 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 4: it was you know, heavily inspired like by like gang culture. 149 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 4: There was you know, the Bay Area is synonymous for 150 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 4: its own music industry. It's its own music you know genre. 151 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 4: Really it's like hip hop. But you know, we got 152 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 4: like artists that have just really been fundamental to West 153 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 4: Coast rap. You know, shout out to E forty and 154 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: Too Short and stuff like that Mac Dray. So, needless 155 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 4: to say, all my peers in school, everybody I knew 156 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 4: it was like hip hop, hip hop, hip hop, and 157 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: you know, I would hear all this like soul and 158 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 4: the other kind of music from my parents. And I 159 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 4: took a trip down to San Diego where my family 160 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 4: was from and I like heard like Sublime for the 161 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: very first time, which was kind of a trip because 162 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 4: it kind of put all of this, all that music 163 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 4: that I was talking about, It put it all into 164 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: one which I thought was just so awesome. 165 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: It was so fresh to me. I think I was 166 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: like eleven at. 167 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 4: The time, and I just remember hearing this music and 168 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 4: you know, it would be borrowing melodies from like the Supremes, 169 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 4: and it would be like, you know, doing like punk 170 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: rock stuff, which I hadn't even really heard punk rock 171 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 4: yet at that point. Sublime was my introduction into punk 172 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 4: rock and you know, so hearing that for the first time, 173 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,839 Speaker 4: and but like you know, had some stuff from like 174 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 4: hip hop samples in there, and so it just really 175 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: blew my mind. And from that point on, like honestly, 176 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 4: from like listening to Sublime, it really transitioned me from 177 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: like being like a listen to like me wanting to 178 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 4: learn how to like play an instrument, you know, And 179 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: I got a guitar. And then shortly after getting a guitar, 180 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 4: you know, I just started to was I played that 181 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 4: thing all the day time, And the more I played guitar, 182 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: the less I was skateboarding. And I could kind of 183 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 4: like I got to a point where because the only 184 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: thing I loved in the world was skateboarding. So I 185 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 4: got to this point where I was just like, you 186 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 4: know what, like I think I can probably be a 187 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:33,079 Speaker 4: better guitar player than a better skateboarder, and I just 188 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 4: really started investing all my time in a guitar playing 189 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: and yeah, eventually that you know, a lot of the 190 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 4: stuff that was going on in my family. You know, 191 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 4: my dad had his stint with drugs for most of 192 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: my childhood, and so that just created all kinds of 193 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 4: chaos in the house, everything that you would imagine. 194 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: And that was really. 195 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 4: Monumental in like my growth as like becoming a songwriter, 196 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 4: leaving the guitar you know, like guitar player mentality and 197 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 4: stepping into like singing and writing songs about all that stuff. 198 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 4: And uh that's when like music really like transformed for me, 199 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 4: where like, you know, the dip in my grades was 200 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: like for real, it was like I was like all in, 201 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: I just wanted to go to La start meeting people 202 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 4: and just start recording these songs. And uh yeah, that 203 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 4: was like the you know, pretty much this start of 204 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,200 Speaker 4: my high school and that was like a really troubling 205 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 4: time because I just like couldn't get my shit together 206 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 4: in school. Man, I just wanted to play on that 207 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: guitar and start bands. So but yeah, that was that 208 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 4: was kind of like, you know, the cadensed version of 209 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 4: a of a up and down lifestyle and up and 210 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: down California between northern and southern California and my upbringing. 211 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: But it's really a storybook, really life here. 212 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: When you get to, you know, join a band that 213 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: you were a fan of and tour and record, I 214 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 2: mean you must have just you know, pinched yourself in 215 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 2: amazement of what you had accomplished. 216 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Dude. 217 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 4: It was crazy, like all I ever wanted to do 218 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 4: when I was a kid, you know, how like did 219 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 4: they tell you to like. 220 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Hold your breath. 221 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 4: When you're going under like a bridge or you're going 222 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: like in an underpass or like you're going over a bridge, 223 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: you know, hold your breath and make a wish? Right 224 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: Ever since I was a kid, man, all I could 225 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 4: remember was like when I blow out the candles and 226 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: I'd make a wish and you're not to tell anybody. 227 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 4: All I would wish was to be a professional musician, 228 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: and I would say those words because I wanted to 229 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 4: at least be able. 230 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 1: To live off music. 231 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: You know, like I had a couple of uncles that 232 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: like play guitar, and they were just like, you know, 233 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 4: just living a miserable life, and I just at least 234 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: wanted to put some food on my table playing playing 235 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 4: the guitar. I didn't want to go to college to 236 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 4: get to this point. Now, like that's where a lot 237 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: of the gratitude comes from. And you know, moving to 238 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 4: LA was like it took so much to like then 239 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 4: get to LA. But then, like, you know, what happened 240 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 4: in Los Angeles really didn't pan out the way I 241 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 4: thought I was gonna pan out either. Like I never 242 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 4: thought in a million years that I would be fronting 243 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 4: the band that was plastered all over my wall as 244 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: a kid. 245 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: That was just something that you know, uh, life kind. 246 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 4: Of unfolds, you know, the journey kind of opens doors 247 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 4: for you that you know you probably wouldn't have opened 248 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 4: or even like fathomed as possible. Never in a million 249 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 4: years when I was listening to Sublime as a kid, 250 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 4: that I think that one to heavy jamming with Button 251 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 4: Airic singing those songs, it's crazy. And during that journey 252 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 4: I met this band called the Dirty Heads, and this was. 253 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 3: I've heard of them. 254 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: This was a year. 255 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: Before I even met anybody in Sublime yet, so I 256 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 4: introduced to I was introduced to the Dirty Heads, and 257 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: I started hanging with those guys and they were like 258 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: just playing, you know, probably like fifty people in like 259 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: bars and clubs and stuff, just you know, just like 260 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 4: getting that phase going in the van, you know. 261 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: And when I met them, like I listened to their music. 262 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 4: I saw like their YouTube stuff, and I was like, oh, dude, 263 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 4: they're so good, Like their music is so rad. I 264 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: was a little more and like funny enough kind of 265 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 4: doing what I'm doing now, like more music that it's 266 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 4: like I'm making now. 267 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: That's kind of where I was before I joined Sublime. 268 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 4: And so when I met the Dirty Heads, I was 269 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 4: listening to what they were doing, you know, with the 270 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 4: first record, and I was like, man, it's such beautiful music. 271 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 4: I'd loved their mixture of everything, so naturally, you know, 272 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 4: we were like, let's write a song together. 273 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: Man. 274 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: You know, I was living in my van at the time. 275 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 4: They all had day jobs, and we wrote this song, 276 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 4: this little old song, lay Me Down, and we liked it. 277 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 4: It was cool, you know, but they already had a 278 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 4: record that out just eight months prior, so they weren't 279 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 4: in no rush. 280 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Their label wasn't any rush to go and get in 281 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: the studio and record a song. 282 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 4: And man, that song sat around for like a year 283 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: and one day our manager, who I later ended up 284 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: being managed by the same managers as the Dirty Heads manager. Uh, 285 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: the Dirty Heads manager took their demo step step like 286 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 4: a CD of like a stack of songs, so like 287 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: maybe four or five songs, took them up to Kevin 288 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 4: Weatherley over at k Rock, who's like the most influential 289 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 4: man in alternative radio, you know, Kevin Weatherly. Big shoutout 290 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 4: right away for changing all of our lives. Big shout 291 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 4: out to Lisa Warden. Love you so much. You know, 292 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: these are great times man. And our manager Cheese like 293 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 4: he played them, you know the song they had this 294 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 4: song with Slash playing guitar, and that was like the one. 295 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: You know, He's like, Okay, this is the boy. We 296 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: loaded it up. 297 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 4: You know, this is the good song we got Slashes 298 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 4: a feature, This is the one. But our manager's assistant, 299 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: her favorite song was lay Me Down, the song that 300 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: me and the guys did, which was just a crappy 301 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 4: old demo we just put together at Olby Studio, and 302 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: so she put that song. 303 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: At number one. God bless her heart. Shout out Tamera 304 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: and man. 305 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: Kevin Weatherley popped that CD in hit play in the 306 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: meeting and oh, oh freaking lay me downstarted and she's 307 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: my manager Dawn here had a heart attack. 308 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: But you know he already started vibing, so you don't. 309 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 4: Stop the man he's he's already tapping his toe and 310 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 4: shaking his head. So he's like, whatever, man, he loved 311 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 4: the song. He played it back four times in a row. 312 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: He was like, played again, played again, played again. He 313 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 4: loved the song, was like, this is a hit. This 314 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 4: you know how it used to go back in the day, 315 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: which it still does sometimes, and you know, man, the 316 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 4: rest was history. You know. 317 00:16:58,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: He put it on. 318 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: He's like, let's hear how it does on the phones. 319 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: That was like a demo, you know, our manager. It 320 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: was like, it's not even mastered yet. He's like, oh, 321 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 4: you want to hear how it sounds mastered on the radio. 322 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: Here you go, We're gonna go play it. And he 323 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 4: just goes and plays it and the phones blew up 324 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 4: like crazy, and I mean that song really changed our 325 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 4: lives overnight. 326 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: You know. 327 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 4: I got a publishing deal within a month from Sony 328 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 4: ATV and you know, because I wrote half that song 329 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 4: with the guys, and they were like, hey, you got 330 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 4: more songs, and I'm like, that's all I do is 331 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 4: sit and write songs. Like of course I got more songs, 332 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: and so they were like, here's the deal. Can you 333 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 4: write more songs for other artists? And I didn't even 334 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: know that that was a thing. So I started writing 335 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 4: all these songs for all these other artists and getting 336 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 4: introduced to all these just amazingly talented people where I'm 337 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 4: like the easily the least talented person in the room 338 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 4: for like years and just soaking it up, man. And 339 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 4: I mean it's just been such a fun ride, like 340 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: to you know that part and then like boom, joining 341 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 4: in with Sublime and then getting to tour around the world. 342 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: So I mean, you just never know, like keeping an 343 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 4: open mind, and and I think that's sort of like 344 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: humility of like I just still can't believe that, like, 345 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 4: you know, this is what I can do for a living. 346 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: I don't have to go work at like you know 347 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: do roofing anymore. 348 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: So it's like, yeah, it's rad I'm very grateful for that, 349 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: and I think that sort of energy is like what 350 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 4: keeps me waking up in the morning. 351 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: And like after you know, no no doubt, no doubt. 352 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 5: You'll be right back with more of the Taking a 353 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 5: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 354 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: So let's play this little game called Fast five. 355 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you five fast questions and get your 356 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 2: get your your comments here. 357 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 3: First of all, first album you ever. 358 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: Bought, self titled Sublime. 359 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 3: First concert you ever attended. 360 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 4: Van's Warp tour. I wanted to see three eleven in Bayside. 361 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: First time you heard your music on the radio? 362 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 4: Oh man, I was uh. I was like sitting on 363 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: my friend's couch watching TV. It was actually his girlfriend's 364 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 4: and my manager about that. It was that day he 365 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 4: called me and was just like, hey, what are you doing. 366 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm just sitting on the couch watching TV. 367 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 4: He's like, turn on K Rock in five minutes and 368 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 4: then he's like, call your mom. You're you're gonna be 369 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 4: a rock star. And that's what he said. And I 370 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 4: was like, what are you talking about? And yeah, I 371 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 4: heard lay Me Down on. We went in my homie, 372 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 4: his girlfriend's. She used to drive like this baby blue 373 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: like VW. Bug's, like a twenty twelve or something, And 374 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: right now I was older than that two thousand and 375 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: seven because the song came out of No. Nine and yeah, man, 376 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 4: we just sat there and I man, I almost blew 377 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 4: or speakers out. We turned it up so dang loud, 378 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 4: and yeah, you just you never forget that moment even 379 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 4: to this day. It don't matter where you're at, when 380 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: you hear yourself on the radio or you know, come 381 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 4: on on the satellite radio at a restaurant or something, 382 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 4: it's like the most just takes you right back to 383 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 4: being a kid, and you're like, this. 384 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: Is like why I do it? You know, I love this. 385 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: I love that this is possible. 386 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: First moment you knew you were going to have a 387 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: life of music. 388 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 4: Oh man, you know, part of being an artist is 389 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 4: like that unshakable fear that all this is gonna go away. 390 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: But I just started to kind of get rid of 391 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 4: that whole thing. Funny enough, leaving Sublime. I know that 392 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 4: sounds ridiculous. There's this kind of feeling with artistry where 393 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 4: it's like it's like almost too good to be true. 394 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 4: That can drive you mad. But when you're kind of 395 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: by yourself, when you're on your own, before you're like 396 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 4: married with children and stuff, you don't really care, you know, 397 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 4: young and dumb, young and reckless, you know, live fast 398 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 4: down young, right, you're just living for the moment. But 399 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,919 Speaker 4: once you start packing on like responsibilities, you know to 400 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 4: people that you love your children, you know. 401 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: God, you know, bless it, like God forbid. 402 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 4: You even become like somewhat remotely successful where you start 403 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 4: hiring some of your family, like you start to you know, 404 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 4: build something that becomes greater than yourself. So you think 405 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 4: it starts to make the art part and this whole 406 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: dream and the career thing like it starts to put 407 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 4: pressure on it and a little squeeze on it, and 408 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 4: things get complicated, and you know, you see a lot 409 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 4: of artists that just can't handle that. Either they quit, 410 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: or you know, they harm themselves with drugs and alcohol, 411 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: or you know, even worse, you know, they take their 412 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 4: own lives. 413 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean everything in between. 414 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: I think it's important to kind of shake all that 415 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 4: and and you know, to make a long story short, 416 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 4: just within the last year. Honestly, leaving Sublime was kind 417 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 4: of when I was like kind of figured out and 418 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: trusted myself and trusted the world and God and just 419 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 4: was like, I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen, 420 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 4: but I know, like I'm happy and I know I'm committed, 421 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 4: and this is like I have music that that I'll 422 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,679 Speaker 4: die for and uh and that that's that's the energy. 423 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 1: You know. 424 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 3: I love it. I love it. Okay, one more on 425 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: the fast five. First instrument you ever bought? 426 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: First instrument guitar, electric guitar? 427 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, my dad he uh got one a pawn shop 428 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 4: and brought it home and haven't haven't put it down since. 429 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: How now, like eleven years old. 430 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 3: Eleven years old? I love it. 431 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 2: So take us behind the creation of y ME. It's 432 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: such an awesome project. And you know this you described 433 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: a little while ago. You know the confidence that it 434 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: took to make this move. You're at this moment in time. 435 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: I think that is an amazing moment. So, uh, take 436 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: us a little bit behind the curtain on the creation. 437 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to well. 438 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: It all kind of stems from like the pandemic because 439 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: Sublime with Rome had been touring, you know, every year 440 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 4: since its formation, and like many other artists, when the 441 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 4: pandemic happened, you know, we were forced to kind of 442 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 4: throw on the tal for a little bit, and you know, 443 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 4: kind of had some time off. So I started like 444 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 4: live streaming, and a lot of people were sitting at 445 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 4: home too, so these rooms were getting like really full, 446 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 4: and you know, I started getting all these fands, and 447 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: after I just ran through all the catalog and all 448 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 4: the Sublime stuff and Sublime with Rome stuff, people were 449 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 4: just like, dude, do you got any music that you're 450 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 4: working on? And the honest answer was like no, Like 451 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 4: I hadn't worked on music for myself in so long. 452 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 4: I mean, I'd just been writing songs for other people, 453 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 4: and that was like I had all this time. 454 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: So I was like, you know what, that sounds like 455 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. 456 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: So I started waking up in the morning and going 457 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 4: to the studio and just like putting together these songs 458 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 4: and kind of putting together my whole just like sound 459 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: that I was like really after in my head, like 460 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 4: the sounds that I loved and the music that had 461 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: the most inspiring, like that was the most inspiring to me, 462 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 4: and I wanted to just kind of fuse all that 463 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 4: together and and you know, see what happens, you know, 464 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 4: because it wasn't like I was gonna like put an 465 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 4: album out and go on tour. 466 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: It was like the pandemic, you know. 467 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,239 Speaker 4: And once I started doing that, man, it just like 468 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: became such a labor of love. Like because most other 469 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: songs that I would write there were for a reason. 470 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: They were for an artist, for you know, an an 471 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 4: R hit me up, or you know, we need this 472 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 4: kind of record for this artist. 473 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: Are you interested to take a session. Here's a couple 474 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: of songs, you know. 475 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: Or with Sublime, you know, I had other people, you know, 476 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 4: I had to they listen to the music. And so 477 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 4: this was something that was just so free and so 478 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 4: creative and it you know, and it just created like 479 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 4: a sound for me and an outlet. 480 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: So after a while, I just like really couldn't couldn't 481 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: like get away from the music. It was like all 482 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: I really wanted to do, you know. 483 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: Even being on the road with Sublime, with Rome, I 484 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: would start really thinking about, you know, once it opened 485 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 4: up the world, I would just be thinking about wanting 486 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 4: to be at home and like record this music and 487 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 4: like you know, oh, man, I want to play this 488 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 4: song mide live in front of all these people, but 489 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 4: you know you. 490 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: Can't do that. It don't work like that. 491 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 4: And that's you know why Me was one of the 492 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 4: later songs that I really tacked onto the album, and 493 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 4: it was because it was like my kind of just 494 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 4: wrapping up my entire tenor with Sublime, And even like 495 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 4: the single artwork of the song is a picture of 496 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 4: me when I was twelve on my bed and you 497 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 4: could see like six Sublime posters in the background. Because 498 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 4: you know, that's my favorite band, getting to tour around 499 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 4: the world with them, and then now step into like 500 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 4: my solo venture and putting out my first bit of music. 501 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to pay homage to that, and you know. 502 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 4: The song is just really about being grateful and about 503 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 4: seeing the world through like a better lens. You know, 504 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 4: I don't know who said it, but I heard this 505 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 4: really cool quote where it's like, one of the most 506 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 4: important decisions you'll ever make is when you wake up 507 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 4: if the world is going to be a good place 508 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 4: or if it's like a harmful, terrible place. And I'm 509 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: you know, butchering that, but I just think that that 510 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 4: is like so true. So I wanted to flip an 511 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 4: old age old saying like why me, kind of flipping 512 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 4: on its head and turn it in into about something 513 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 4: you know about like why me, Like I'm so grateful, Like. 514 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, can you talk about some of the other 515 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 2: songs that really excite you to go out and you 516 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: know show people at the festivals and other shows you'll 517 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: be playing it. 518 00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. 519 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 4: So I have this other song that I'm just so 520 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 4: excited for everyone to hear. It's called Slow and Easy. 521 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 4: And this song is like, you know, really it's about 522 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 4: like me and my wife and just like you know, 523 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 4: focus on so many things and trying to have control 524 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: over all these aspects of our life and make sure 525 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 4: everyone's living optimally, you know, ourselves last on the Total 526 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 4: poll always. And I wanted to write about that and 527 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: just kind of take a you know, write a song 528 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 4: about unplugging and just taking it slow and easy and 529 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 4: just kind of like getting back to the simpler kind 530 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 4: of things and just you know, disconnecting a little bit. 531 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 4: And you know, it has this vibe of the music 532 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 4: that I love so much. You know, it's like this, 533 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,919 Speaker 4: you know, it's got like some rhythmic notes and the 534 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: soulfulness of reggae, but it uses like almost really really 535 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 4: effortlessly with like you know soul and like like you 536 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 4: know folk like Ben Ben Morrison almost. 537 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: So it's like this tone, like this sound that. 538 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 4: I'm just obsessed with that I think I've kind of 539 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 4: stumbled into and. 540 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just it was so awesome the way 541 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: it was. 542 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 4: But then I was like, you know what, how rad 543 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 4: would it be to like put the Dirty Heads on here, 544 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: because one there were my brothers and this is like 545 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 4: one of my favorite songs on the record, so it 546 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: would just be awesome for like a full circle moment, 547 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 4: you know, like everyone is so used to you know, 548 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 4: like lay me Down, Like whenever we're on tour together, 549 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 4: all sing lay me Down with them, and you know, 550 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 4: it's like it's kind of like a summer anthem for 551 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 4: like our our age generation. So I was like, this 552 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 4: is like the most summer anthem track that I have 553 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 4: on the album, and I got to put my boys 554 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 4: on it, so it's like almost full circle, you know, 555 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 4: And that's that's a song that's like really you know, 556 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 4: near and dear to Me and one of the other 557 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 4: songs that I definitely want to highlight on the record 558 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: is a is a song called Knew Me, And you know, 559 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 4: it's it's kind of like a double entendre where where 560 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 4: you know, it's it's it's. 561 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: Talking about like. 562 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 4: You say, you knew me, but you never knew me 563 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: at all, you know, because it's like it's like a 564 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 4: newer version of yourself that sometimes people they'll take for 565 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 4: granted what's in front of them and then like, you know, 566 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 4: expect to keep. 567 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 1: You in like a box or whatever. 568 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 4: And you know, it can happen in relationships very often, 569 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 4: but you know it can also happen in you know, 570 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 4: business relationships and the bands and all kinds of anytime 571 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 4: you're dealing with another people in general, you know. And 572 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 4: I wanted to write about that sort of feeling and 573 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: that sort of experience. So that's That's another song that 574 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 4: I'm really excited for the world to hear. 575 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: You know. 576 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 4: It's it's cool being able to I have these shows 577 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: and these festivals that I've been playing, you know, Cali 578 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 4: Vibes and Cali Roots and Summerfest July fifteenth and all 579 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 4: these cool festivals, and I feel like I'm kind of 580 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 4: doing it like my music career now I'm kind of 581 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: doing it in like a like a little more of 582 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: an old fashioned way where I'm I'm writing these songs 583 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 4: on like that guitar, you know, and then I'm going 584 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 4: live and I'm just playing them and I'm getting the 585 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: feedback and I'm like seeing what's moving. I'm like that 586 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 4: bridge is too long, you know, Da da da da, 587 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 4: or like this song's boring, you know, or you know, 588 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 4: and I'm kind of like and now I'm coming home, 589 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: and then I'm like, these are the songs that I 590 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 4: want to record. 591 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: And it's awesome, you know. 592 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 4: It's like so much different than like how a lot 593 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: of it's done now, where it's like, you know, it's 594 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 4: just you in a little room like this and a 595 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 4: little camera like that, and you're just making make and 596 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 4: make and self mix and put it out and shoot 597 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 4: and shoot and shoot and shoot and put it out 598 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 4: and shoot and put it out. And I mean, as 599 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 4: an artist, it sounds awesome, but it's it's not very 600 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 4: fair to the art, is it. So I like living 601 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 4: and I like being with my fans and letting them 602 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 4: kind of determine help me determine the songs that we 603 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 4: need in the movement. 604 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 2: You know you are in a zone. You know the 605 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 2: term the zone, You are in a zone. I could 606 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: absolutely tell with this new music and hitting the road. 607 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 2: By the way, you mentioned Van Morrison. Shout out to Van. 608 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: If you haven't checked out his brand new song called 609 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: Remembering Now, check it out. 610 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: I check that out. 611 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 2: I've heard that it's outstanding. It's one of his best 612 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: things he's done in years. But I wanted to mention 613 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 2: that for sure. So in closing Rome, when you sort 614 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 2: of think about younger Rome and Rome at this age, 615 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: what would you tell younger Rome in terms of advice 616 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: that you know you think about now as the older room. 617 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Drink glass alcohol, for sure. 618 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 4: But you know, like, honestly, if I didn't drink lass hour, 619 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 4: if I didn't if I drink less alcohol, I don't 620 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 4: know if I would be chilling right. 621 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: Now if I'd learned. 622 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 4: You know, I had to go and make a fool 623 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 4: of myself a couple of times in the world for 624 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 4: me to calm down, just like I had to touch 625 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 4: the fire. 626 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm one of those people. 627 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 4: Unfortunately, we're like, no matter how many times do you 628 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 4: tell me, no matter how many videos or how many books, 629 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 4: I just got to learn it on my own, and 630 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 4: I learned a lot about life watching my old man. 631 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: So I'm very grateful for that. I tell him that 632 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 4: all the time. I love him for that. I wouldn't 633 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 4: change a damn thing about it. 634 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: Every night. 635 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 4: Everything that we went through, it made me who I am. 636 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 4: I'm a good ass dad, and I take pride in 637 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 4: that more. That's the thing that I'm the most prideful about. 638 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: All that stuff let me to this point now. So 639 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 4: but I would go back and say, you know, hey, man, 640 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 4: like chill out all the booze a little bit and 641 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 4: call your mom more. 642 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: You know. I love it. 643 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 2: Rome, Congratulations on your solo debut. 644 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 3: It's incredible music. 645 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 2: I'm so happy for you, and I'm so honored that 646 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 2: you came on the Taking a Walk Podcast. 647 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 1: Thank you, Rom, It's an honorvice thank you for having 648 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: me brother. 649 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 5: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 650 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 5: Walk Podcast. Share this and other episodes with your friends 651 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 5: and follow us so you never miss an episode. Taking 652 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 5: a Walk is available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 653 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 5: and wherever you get your podcasts.