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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff live right

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Speaker 1: here on giants dot com. Lands Meadow, John Smoke with

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Speaker 1: you two one four, five, one three. Hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: your weekend. I know we're short a couple episodes on

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Speaker 1: the podcast up on their website that has been put

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Speaker 1: after the show is concluded. Um, hope everybody's enjoying their summer.

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Speaker 1: Less than two weeks now before players report lands. They'll

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Speaker 1: be showing up the rookies and about select veterans in

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Speaker 1: about six days, and then four days after that you'll

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Speaker 1: have the veterans in the house for their conditioning test

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Speaker 1: and the first practice, uh not this Thursday, but the

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Speaker 1: following Thursday, and then the marathon begins. It does. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing how the off season flies by off season. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're based on what happened with the draft and everything

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Speaker 1: else this season, and we always had something to talk

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Speaker 1: about every single month. But it's nice to know that

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Speaker 1: we're getting closer and closer to football. We're getting closer

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Speaker 1: and closer to meaningful football, and before you know, the

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Speaker 1: first preseason game is gonna be here too. August ninth,

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Speaker 1: less than a month away, So there you go, goes fast. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And of course there is some business going on in

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Speaker 1: the NFL in the off season this year. Um, we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that in a second. Just what ar mind

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Speaker 1: you If you want to get in, we'll take your

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Speaker 1: calls in the first half hour of the show at

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Speaker 1: at twelve thirty will be joined by Ryan Long, who

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Speaker 1: covers the San Francisco forty nine as one previous Giants

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Speaker 1: matchup against the forty Niners, which takes place right after

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Speaker 1: the bye weeks or about halfway through the season for

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Speaker 1: the New York Football Giants. We've covered the NFC East

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Speaker 1: teams as well as only a few more guests, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll be getting ready for training cab next week.

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Speaker 1: But the offseason industry that is the NFL lands this

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Speaker 1: is one of those I won't call it arbitrary, but

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Speaker 1: it's a deadline that they're simply is that teams have

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Speaker 1: players that were placed under the franchise tag. Do not

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Speaker 1: sign a long term contract by three o'clock today, four

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Speaker 1: o'clock today, thank you. UM. They will have to play

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Speaker 1: under that one year franchise tag, which is guaranteed. By

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Speaker 1: that player that amount of money, no matter are what.

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Speaker 1: There were four players that are involved in this process.

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Speaker 1: he's defensive end, obviously a pass rusher. His franchise tag

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Speaker 1: I think he's around seventeen million. Levian Belle, the running

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Speaker 1: His franchise tag him at his fourteen million. This will

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Speaker 1: If remember he held out in training camp last year

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Speaker 1: the Rams are trying to figure him out. Remember, I

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Speaker 1: Troy Lions playing under that franchise tag. That's the same

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Speaker 1: That's a big issue for me, is a question. And

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Speaker 1: You know, after you get that second suspension, you're up

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Speaker 1: You know? Last year with Levan Bell missing training camp

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Speaker 1: The offense is still one of the best in the league.

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Speaker 1: Let me rephrase that obviously, but if I'm the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: I've said this to Paull. I'm not sure I've said

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Speaker 1: just like to write, well, Odell Beckham Jr. Deserves a contract,

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Speaker 1: He's done what he needs to do to deserve a contract.

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Speaker 1: I want to get one percent better, it kind of says, hey,

429
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pretty good, you know. And I thought that

430
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 1: that was because I just remember going into the Dallas

431
00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:12,920
Speaker 1: game last year saying to myself, I left that game

432
00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 1: besides just getting blown out and the way, but it

433
00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,960
Speaker 1: was more the way we did where I said, Wow,

434
00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,639
Speaker 1: we went through this whole off season and I didn't

435
00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,920
Speaker 1: see any change. So the fast forward to something more relevant.

436
00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,679
Speaker 1: The thing that I just like about where things are

437
00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 1: coming out this year is simply the amount of positions,

438
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,239
Speaker 1: philosophy players, the amount of change on this team. Now. Now,

439
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,560
Speaker 1: not all change is good, I get that, but the

440
00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,639
Speaker 1: amount of change that you see from Sherman is so

441
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,359
Speaker 1: much more significant than I think, um that that this

442
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 1: team needs. But it's changed around a basis of the

443
00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 1: roster that still had talent it needed to be fixed,

444
00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 1: that it's not as deep as it should be, all

445
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 1: those things, the injuries. I get all that, but I

446
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 1: still think that there's a lot of reason that you

447
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 1: see a lot more change going into this season than

448
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 1: you did last year, and and and again coming off

449
00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 1: the eleven and five. I get it, Yeah, it was

450
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 1: it was a big mistake. I'd like to get your

451
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,320
Speaker 1: guys comments thanks, thank you. I mean, I think Dave,

452
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,680
Speaker 1: you pretty much alluded to your own answer when you

453
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 1: said the reason why the Giants didn't make as many

454
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 1: changes the previous offseason is because they were coming off

455
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 1: a productive season. Now, I've always said if you look

456
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,520
Speaker 1: back at two thousand sixteen, that given how many close

457
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 1: games they won, I thought the record was a little misleading. Yeah,

458
00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't a dominant, double digit winning season team. It

459
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 1: was a team that was good. They certainly had their strengths,

460
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 1: certainly had their weaknesses, and they were able to hang

461
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 1: in there and win a lot of close games, and hey,

462
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do in the National Football League.

463
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 1: But you know, after the season, you still look at

464
00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,240
Speaker 1: the roster and say, hey, you know there's some changes

465
00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: that need to be made. Okay, the nucleus came back,

466
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 1: they invested a lot of money and defensive players, so

467
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 1: you knew there wasn't gonna be a great deal of movement,

468
00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,719
Speaker 1: and you figured, hey, the offense still had a lot

469
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 1: of you they had another draft. Fortunately, injuries took a

470
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 1: toll last year, more so than two thousand and sixteen,

471
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: and it caught up with them. So you know, obviously

472
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: that's why you're seeing more changes this year end. Let's

473
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: also not overlook the fat You got a new GM

474
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: and a new coaching staff, so John, with that, you're

475
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: gonna get changed automatically on the surface. Yeah, real quick.

476
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't want to go tip for tad if you

477
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: guys didn't realize that. In Peter King's NBC Sports, his

478
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: first you know, I forge out what it's called football

479
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: in America or whatever it is. It's it's whatever, the

480
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 1: Monday morning quarterback, Monday Morning quarterback from his time with

481
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: s I. UM. If you go to Peter King's Twitter feed,

482
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,680
Speaker 1: you can link to it and you can find it.

483
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,640
Speaker 1: It's on Pro Football Talk, which is basically the football

484
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 1: site from NBC Sports. UM, just three things real quick.

485
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 1: When he talked about how he was, you know, maybe

486
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 1: coach the players more and be less concerning the XS

487
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,040
Speaker 1: and ohs UM. I think that's probably why when he

488
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: first took the job, everyone kept asking him if he

489
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: also wanted to be the coordinator and not just the

490
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 1: head coach. It's probably because of stuff like that, and

491
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: that's a challenge that most coordinators always face when they

492
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: make the transition. We talked about that a lot. And

493
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: that's why Pat Charmer has uh coach Schula here to

494
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: help him out, to help Mike Schuli here. Well, you know,

495
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 1: Sherman's calling the plays. Mike Schill was handing a lot

496
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 1: of the offensive stuff here during the week, so Shermer

497
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 1: can be the CEO and run the team, which I

498
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 1: think is very hand and just real quickly to add

499
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 1: to what you just said, John Sherman remember has gone

500
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: through correct balancing both and he learned a lot from

501
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: that because we had Brad Children's on this program when

502
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 1: Sherman was first hired. Children's was a o C in

503
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 1: Cleveland's Great Interview too, So he said he learned a

504
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: lot from that. Absolutely. Um. He said he had to

505
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: handle the media better. I think we all know that's true. Um.

506
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 1: And it can work when you're eleven and five, is

507
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: not gonna work when you're three and thirteen. What was

508
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: he I don't know if you want to I know

509
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: you don't want to go crazy into it. But there

510
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: was a funny quote that he wrote that he said

511
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: he spoke to one of his colleagues and they said,

512
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,120
Speaker 1: you're a smart guy, but when you talk right here,

513
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: I thought that jumped out to me. This is this

514
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: is one of his buddy said him, you're smart, but

515
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 1: when you answer questions from the press, you sound like

516
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: an oath. That was it. That was the quote. Remember

517
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: the term, and that did happen from time to time? Um,

518
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: and those the only two things that kind of want

519
00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,919
Speaker 1: to point that from that. So all right, we got

520
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: two more calls day. Let's get these in before you

521
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: give Ryan a call. We're coming us with late with Ryan.

522
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: That's fine. The Niners, I'm gonna need a full half

523
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: hour with them and make sure I give you our

524
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: two calls the time they need shakes is up next.

525
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: What's up, buddy? How are you? What's going on? You

526
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 1: enjoined your summer? Brother? What was that? I said? Are

527
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: you enjoying your summer? Oh? Yeah, yeah? You know my

528
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: birthday is in July, so you know, there you go.

529
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: I've been yeah, a month long, monthday summer long. Yeah,

530
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: it sounds like yeah, get right into yeah this running

531
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: back conversation because I disagree with you, fathers, and UM.

532
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: The reason why I disagree what's specifically? Yeah, I mean

533
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,880
Speaker 1: we talked about a lot and I'm I'm gonna get

534
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: right to it right like UM with the whole being

535
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 1: remissed to giving a second contract to these running backs,

536
00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: and um, the shelf life of a running back. My

537
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: thing is is that when you um, when you got

538
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: the running backs that's physical, that has to wear and

539
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: tear that UM try the rock thirty times a game,

540
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,920
Speaker 1: twenty five thirty thirty times a game, all that tread

541
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: on the tires. Then I can see the whole five

542
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 1: to seven year range. But if you use them right, like, UM,

543
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: you know Marshall Fault, whether you had gave up on

544
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: him on his first contract, no, you know, um Anypolis

545
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: did and look with that Look what happened to that

546
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: show on women. UM. I could go through a lot

547
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: of things like now the league is having uh two

548
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: running backs, So now I feel like it's um, they're

549
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: they're giving up more of a shelf likes to these

550
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: running backs. I feel like running some of these running

551
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 1: backs can last to ten and twelve years. I again,

552
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: Ladaniel Thomason tenant twelve. I look at Marshall Fault tenant twelve.

553
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: But Thomlinson wasn't the same running back in the last

554
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,719
Speaker 1: four or five years. And he also left San Diego,

555
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: and and and she remember the guys were talking about.

556
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: Those aren't the guys that are splitting carries. You know,

557
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 1: Levan Bell, we just detailed the thirty carry, thirty touches

558
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: the game. Ezekiel Elliott, thirty touches the game. You know.

559
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 1: That's why when they drafted bark And they talked about

560
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: how they had to manage to um a little worried,

561
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: like the Ezekiel Eliast that is getting on dirty carry

562
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: the game every every sings. I just touches. It's not

563
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: just carries, it's touches the whole seven the eight range

564
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: with him, right, But like a running back like Alvin

565
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: Kamara or something like that, that's definitely split the point.

566
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: Don't do it lasted all these years because he was

567
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: yeah he was with Dangel Williams, but but but the

568
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: point did shakes? Those are those are not great comparisons

569
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: to Levian Bell because Bell is on an island here

570
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: and two guys you're talking about, Yeah, of course they

571
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: lasted longer because you're right, they were getting half the workload.

572
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: We're talking about a guy that's getting between carries and touches.

573
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: We're talking about the twenty five to barometer. Those guys

574
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: that you threw out Jonathan Stewart wasn't getting that much

575
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 1: of a workload and neither has Alvid Camarin. Just one year. Yeah,

576
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: and it really it wasn't more on Uh, it was

577
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: more of the running back shelf life was my point.

578
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: But on the um, even him, I would give him

579
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: a second contract because to me, he doesn't take the

580
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: hits and he didn't have the injurvies to sit there

581
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: and say, oh, I don't see I see him wearing

582
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: there was in his career ready, He's already had twoknee

583
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: surgeries if I'm not mistaken, Well, I know he definitely

584
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: had one. One year he only played six games. I

585
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 1: think that was the year. Did he terris Achilles or

586
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: torn a c L? Did he have an A c L?

587
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: I think I think he may have torn his A

588
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: c L that year. I was not sure a c

589
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: L or the m c L he had had. I

590
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: don't know which. Look, well, Levi on Bell definitely had

591
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: a season where he played six games. If you remember,

592
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: I think he got hurt against the Cincinnati Bengals, if

593
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 1: memory serves me correctly, and uh only there's a website

594
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: that's called Sports Injury Predictor dot com. So here's his

595
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Levian Bell's injury history. UM. In two thousand thirteen, he'd

596
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: lift Frank Sprain in the preseason, missed the first three

597
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: games of the regular season. UM. Two thousand fourteen, he

598
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 1: hyper extended his knee after taking a low hid in

599
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: week seventeen, missed a wild card game of the playoffs

600
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: UM towards mcl in two thousand fifteen and missed the

601
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: year and then UM, that was the last knee injury

602
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: he had, wasn't two thousand and fifteen. UM, it looks

603
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: like last year he had a sports hernia operation on

604
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 1: January seventeen, So those were his injury. So he's had

605
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: three or four injuries had made years ago. So it's like,

606
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, these last three years kind of he also

607
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: had the suspension. Though I want to throw one more

608
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: thing to you. He has just one look at all

609
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: those things and kind of be remiss and shaking up.

610
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: You shouldn't be remissed on the Bell me. I wouldn't.

611
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: I would give him a second contract, but I could understand, UM,

612
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: a pause and an organization and shakes real quick, chakes

613
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: real quick. As far as the shelf life of a

614
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: running back, but I wouldn't give up on a guy

615
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: of that nature if you know he hasn't had to win,

616
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: and the the trade of um, yeah, but sakes, real

617
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: quick shakes, shakes, real quick shakes, real quick chacks. Hold

618
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: on one second, real quick. I want to give out

619
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: two of the guys you gave me real fast, Okay.

620
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: Marshall Falk after his first eight years in the league

621
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: never rushed for a thousand yards again. Ladinian Thomason, after

622
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: his first eight years in the league never rushed for

623
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: a thousand yards again. So those are the two guys

624
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned. Yeah, two guys talk. After eight years never

625
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: rushed for a thousand yards and after Tomison's seventh year.

626
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: In his eighth year he ran for eleven hundred and

627
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: his ninth year ran for seven hundred and thirty and

628
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: fell off of a cliff. His yards per carry from

629
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: year eight to year seven went from four point seven

630
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: to three point eight. So even for those two guys

631
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: you mentioned, you're looking at a seven to eight year window.

632
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: And the Steelers have control Bell for seven years. Uh,

633
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are gonna be a little control as equally

634
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: for seven or eight years. So why would you extend

635
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: him to ten or eleven when you're gonna get the

636
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: best seven or eight out of the guy anyway, and

637
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: then let him go. You know what I'm saying. Point

638
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: and I would consider I mean what you said. You know,

639
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: I would consider giving Bell a contract, but I'm not

640
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: giving him, you know, a five year deal. Do you

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Speaker 1: have a four year deal? Four? I I'd prefer three

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Speaker 1: with an option. I would count this year four years,

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Speaker 1: four years including two, so you would have him signed

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Speaker 1: through one. But four years are guaranteed? Well, I mean

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Speaker 1: clearly this guaranteed money. Of course, cousins type no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: of course, I mean I would consider it if I

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Speaker 1: feel that the numbers are decent. I would certainly consider it,

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Speaker 1: because I can said off the top, I think Bell

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Speaker 1: is still good for another contract. I just the question

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Speaker 1: is what is the length of that kind? And can

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Speaker 1: you if you give him a four year deal, maybe

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Speaker 1: is that fourth year set up where you can get

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Speaker 1: out of that having a lot of money. Well, that's

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Speaker 1: why I or I want some type of flexibility where

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Speaker 1: where if he falls apart, you can get out. Correct.

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Speaker 1: That's what I would be willing to do it on

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Speaker 1: this all right, Dave, let's go to a Scott in

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Speaker 1: New Mexico and then you can call get Ryan up

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Speaker 1: on the line with go to Ryanley on next Scott.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Pal? Good morning guys. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What's up? I have the question I I thoroughly enjoyed

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Speaker 1: your conversation with George Chackrewery. I guess, I hope I'm pronounced.

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Speaker 1: You actually did that pretty well. Uh and uh. He

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Speaker 1: made a couple of points that were interesting. One of

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Speaker 1: them I wanted to go over, and I'll sort of

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Speaker 1: paraphrase what he said, is that in the case of

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning, he's Eli Manning, doesn't make the team better,

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Speaker 1: but the players around him make him better. And I

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Speaker 1: had some reservation with that because I'm wondering if if

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Speaker 1: analysts or even fans get sometimes caught up in the

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Speaker 1: minutia of analytics and forget that there's a human factor

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Speaker 1: involved in that and that Eli, on occasion has made

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Speaker 1: players better. So I was wondering what your opinions were

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Speaker 1: on that. Well. I mean, I think generally speaking, I

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Speaker 1: think every player in the league has helped by having

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Speaker 1: better players, right, and that's number one. I think the

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Speaker 1: bigger point that George made that. I took it took

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Speaker 1: out of his commentary. And Eli Manning is that Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning circuit two thousand eleven and two thousand and twelve

680
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Speaker 1: was a top ten quarterback. He was a top six,

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Speaker 1: top seven quarterbacks. So he has it in him, but

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Speaker 1: he hasn't played to that level since then, which I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's it's hard to argue with that given hand,

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Speaker 1: what what the seasons look like? And look, let let

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Speaker 1: me go it this way, Scott, even as a diehard

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Speaker 1: Giants fan, can Eli Manning put a team on his

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Speaker 1: back and carry them offensively the way and Aaron Rodgers can,

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Speaker 1: and Tom Brady can and Drew Brees can quarterbacks of

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Speaker 1: that level? Right? No, No, I'm no, seriously, do you

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Speaker 1: think he can? I think he has the ability. He's not.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have the mobility of the quarterbacks you just

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Speaker 1: name going against him. But as far as knowledge and

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Speaker 1: what he has in his head and how he recognizes defenses,

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Speaker 1: I think he is on the party. He just doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the mobility as those quartersbacks. Scott, real quick, this

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Speaker 1: is how I look at it. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I think you have that top tier quarterbacks that I

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Speaker 1: think are otherworldly. I'm frankly, I'm not even sure Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees is in that anymore. I think he might, in

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Speaker 1: his age, have kind of dropped down to that second group.

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Speaker 1: But I think you're looking at Aaron Rodgers and Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady right now. They are on a tier all by

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Speaker 1: themselves in the National Football League. Then you go to

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Speaker 1: every single quarterback after that, they all need help. And

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Speaker 1: if you put any of those quarterbacks in a situation

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Speaker 1: with the don't have an offensive line, or don't have weapons,

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Speaker 1: or they've injuries all around them, I think they're going

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Speaker 1: to struggle. That's from Matt Ryan. I mean, look how

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Speaker 1: much worse Matt Ryan was last year just because his

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator changed. His numbers plummeted. So I think, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you they're all equal on skill level,

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Speaker 1: but I think all those other quarterbacks in the league

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Speaker 1: get impacted severely by the talent around them. It takes

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Speaker 1: truly transcendent, you know, all time great, you know, Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 1: John Elway type of quarterbacks to be able to succeed

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Speaker 1: no matter what. And I don't think you're insulting Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning by saying he's not on the same levels as

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady in terms of the consistency of the success

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Speaker 1: of his career. You know, a guy like Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: has gotten hurt as a result of his offensive line.

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Speaker 1: The only benefit is his mobility I think has covered

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Speaker 1: up some of their issues over the last few seasons.

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Speaker 1: Show he's he's an athletic freak, so you know you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have obviously the exceptions. And Brady also has had

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Speaker 1: some rough seasons with offensive lines that he's been able

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Speaker 1: to overcome that because of his decision making and some

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Speaker 1: of the playmakers around him. So I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: agree with you, Scott. I think it's a give and

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Speaker 1: take relationship. I think the quarterback makes the talent around

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Speaker 1: him better and vice versa. But I think there are

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Speaker 1: some unique quarterbacks that, regardless of the circumstances around them,

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Speaker 1: they're obviously going to be able to succeed. And Scott,

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Speaker 1: you said yourself, Eli's mobility makes it difficult for him

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Speaker 1: to overcome an offensive line that's not gonna block well correct, yeah,

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Speaker 1: my last question, and then obviously I'll take it off

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Speaker 1: the air. UH is in regards to analytics, UH, which

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Speaker 1: is basically just the process using recorded data to do probabilities.

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Speaker 1: But uh, how much of that or what? What? What

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Speaker 1: could you assess a number when you're formulating game plans

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Speaker 1: offense and defense, of how much analytics comes to place?

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Speaker 1: And again I'll take it off. I think it depends

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Speaker 1: what you consider analytics. I think some analytics are extremely important.

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Speaker 1: I think you know the guys upstairs and you know

744
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: John Burger and the other people in football information, what

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00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: they'll do is like they'll break down like the forty.

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Speaker 1: Like for example, the Giants is gonna play the four

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Speaker 1: nine and we'll get the Ryan longing about thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: If the Niners are really ban on short yardage defense,

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Speaker 1: the Giants will be more likely to go for it

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Speaker 1: off fourth than one if they realize, you know, they're

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Speaker 1: susceptible to a certain type of play in a certain

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Speaker 1: situation based on statistics, are running in a certain direction

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Speaker 1: or or throwing off play action. Those analytics are important

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Speaker 1: and game planning, and I think that's the challenges football

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Speaker 1: departments have lands is taking all these numbers, all these

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Speaker 1: statistics and finding the ones the coaches can use that

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Speaker 1: will help them prepare for a game. You can't just

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Speaker 1: give him a huge two hundred page book and say, here,

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00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: enjoy make a game plan. You need to know and

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00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: figure out what can help these coaches on a given day,

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Speaker 1: because there's something might be some data that's really interesting.

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Speaker 1: But if the coaches can't turn around and use it

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Speaker 1: to help form a game plan that's help you in

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Speaker 1: a game, it doesn't really help you that much, you know.

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Speaker 1: I mean the perfect example of data is if a

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Speaker 1: team has a tendency to run a specific type of

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Speaker 1: play based on what you saw in the first five

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Speaker 1: or six weeks of the season, John, who's to say

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Speaker 1: that that trend is going to continue when they play you?

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Speaker 1: They may all of a sudden flip the script. So

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Speaker 1: you know, that's where data may be able to be

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Speaker 1: thrown out the window. But I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: think the percentage of success on a play is important

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Speaker 1: to at least dictate what you're good or bad at. So,

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Speaker 1: for example, if you're terrible and short yard situations, you're

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Speaker 1: maybe going to lean towards running a different player. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna punk the ball as opposed to taking a chance

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Speaker 1: and going for it. And frankly, how was your defense

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Speaker 1: playing It will determine whether or not you punter gold

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Speaker 1: field where you're on the field, that all that sort

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Speaker 1: of stuff, uh comes into consideration. And that was again, folks,

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Speaker 1: if you want to check it out. Um, it was

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Speaker 1: two thursdays ago. Fiegels and I had a chance to

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Speaker 1: talk to uh George Chahuri from the Analytics Expert over

785
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: a Pro Football Focus the Thursday before July four, so

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00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: you can go back to July fourth was a Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so ended June. I would go check that out if

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00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: you have a sign up. There was a great interview

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Speaker 1: that stayed with us the whole hour. It's fantastic. Right,

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Speaker 1: let's go to Ryan Lee on there's a great job.

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Speaker 1: I've been talking to Ryan since I was producing the

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Speaker 1: NFL and Actual with Eddie Colman back in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and three at w f A L and he's been

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Speaker 1: covering Yeah, I was the producer back then, Ryan, and uh,

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Speaker 1: you've been covering the Niners since then. We appreciate the

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Speaker 1: time today. Thanks so much for joining us. Yeah. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I know, I didn't realize you guys were

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Speaker 1: doing this podcast on videos, so I had to make

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Speaker 1: sure that I wore a little Niners gear to impart

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Speaker 1: my knowledge. So I'm wearing my old school uh Niner

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Speaker 1: starter jacket that Carl Banks will appreciate. Oh very good.

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00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: You know Carl call Love's bringing out those old school

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00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: starter jackets. Ryan. Oh yeah, and then I I always

804
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: show him some love about you know, the starter product,

805
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: and I'm of course very fond of the old school stuff.

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00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: So anyway, that's what I'm wearing to match you guys

807
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: a little bit, Ryan. One trade can change the fortunes

808
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: of the franchise when it's for the right player. And

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00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: I feel like there was such dooming gloom and lack

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00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 1: of optimism around the forty nine ers until John Lynch

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Speaker 1: gets the phone call from Bill Belichick and here comes

812
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, and now you've got people predicting the Niners

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00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: gonna win the division. I have a chance to challenge

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Speaker 1: to win playoff games. Just described for us how the

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Speaker 1: feeling around the franchise changed almost immediately after you guys

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00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: saw Jimmy Garoppolo play a couple of games. No, I

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Speaker 1: couldn't agree more. In fact, I think your caller there

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00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: you just had on you guys were talking about how

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Speaker 1: how much Matt Ryan had changed because he had he

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Speaker 1: had a different offensive coordinator. I mean, look what happened,

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Speaker 1: for instance, with a guy like Alex Smith. I'll get

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Speaker 1: to Jimmy G in a second, but you know, Alex

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Speaker 1: Smith had so many offensive coordinators he never realized his

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Speaker 1: full potential. You know. Then he finally goes to um uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, have a have a good year with the

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Speaker 1: forty Niners under Jim Harball. He goes on to Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: becomes a decent quarterback. I mean, it all meant, it's

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Speaker 1: all really dependent on your coaching staff. Now, getting to

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Speaker 1: the point about Jimmy G. Yeah, when the Niners got him,

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Speaker 1: I mean all of a sudden, it was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: we just got the number one traffick. I mean, I

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00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: mean the Niners were I mean, this team was was

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Speaker 1: beyond suck. And that's how bad they were. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I really predicted the forty Niners had a

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Speaker 1: chance to go oh in sixteen, that's how bad. And

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Speaker 1: they were dropped the first nine games of the season, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they end up winning. They end up going on a

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Speaker 1: five game winster close out the season. And I think personally,

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Speaker 1: the turning point for me was when Jimmy G was

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Speaker 1: able to beat a Jacksonville team that that really was

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Speaker 1: singey on defense, and the Niners ran up like what

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00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: a season high and points against those guys. I mean

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Speaker 1: that was to me that when I when I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 1: these guys are for real. Uh, they're definitely gonna compete

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Speaker 1: for the division. I personally have them making it to

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Speaker 1: the division around of the playoffs. Well, Ryan, I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I think they're one of the most intriguing

848
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Speaker 1: teams entering this season. And it's not just Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: I think it's some of the young guys around him.

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Speaker 1: And I want to shift gears to the running game

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Speaker 1: because that, to me, is somewhat of a questionable position.

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Speaker 1: And during this season Carlos hides gone. They brought in

853
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 1: Jared McKinnon. From what I hear, Kyle Shann's very high

854
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: on him because of his dual threat ability. But you know,

855
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: outside of McKinnon, who really is not every down type

856
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: of back, and Kyle used checked the fullback. You know,

857
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: how do you see this running game developing? Who's gonna

858
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: be doing a lot of the heavy lifting this season?

859
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 1: Good question? You know that's a good question. I mean,

860
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: I know you check with you. I think of the time. Um,

861
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I just gonna sound kind of like a

862
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: week answer, but we'll have to kind of wait and see.

863
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: And I think by the time the Giants and the

864
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: Niners play, it's not gonna be until mid season, right,

865
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 1: I think it's week ten that they did they meet up.

866
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: You have to to buy yeah, I mean, that's that's

867
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: quite what he's off, man. I mean here is we're

868
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,800
Speaker 1: talking about it on July six. I mean the you know,

869
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: the NFL though, right, I mean, this is the only

870
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: sport I can think of where you can talk about

871
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: this much about a game that isn't even until like

872
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: what five months away from her or whatever, the three

873
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: or four months away from now. And I think you know,

874
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: you know you mentioned coaching before, and I think you know,

875
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: we've seen kind of the almost of the j Cruten

876
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: coaching tree here a little bit. And you know, Kyle

877
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: Shanahan obviously of everything that happened with UH with the

878
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: Rams last year, and they make the most of their talent.

879
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: And you take a look at the Niners wide receiver

880
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: corps and you're like, all right, you know, Mark, he's

881
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,399
Speaker 1: good one. All right, He's okay. Trent telling he's sorry,

882
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: he's fine. Aldre Robin said, all right, he's okay, but

883
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: they're marching the ball up and down the field. Can

884
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: you just talk about that wide receiver cord and just

885
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: how Shanahan puts them in a position where they can

886
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: get open, they can succeed even if they might not

887
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: have the best individual skill set. I think I think

888
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: we all at least last year, when you look at Mark,

889
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: he's good. When I only you guys knew about his

890
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: personal tragedy. I believe at one point, you know, he uh,

891
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: he he had a child that had passed away, and

892
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: then I think his remember that his father died, so

893
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: he had he had a couple of things going on,

894
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: and yet he he just he just had a breakout year.

895
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: I think he he clicked very you know, very well

896
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: and and and uh in uh in a timely fashion

897
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: with Jimmy g I mean, it didn't take those guys

898
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: in any time at all to really develop a report.

899
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: And as you guys know, I mean, there was a

900
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: symbiotic relationship between your quarterback and your wide receiver. That

901
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: is the most important relationship to have, right, I mean,

902
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: it worked with the four Niners with with Steve Young

903
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: and Jerry Rice, and then before that's you know, Jerry

904
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 1: Rice and Joe Montana. I mean, these are really important

905
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: relationships you have to develop and cultivate in order to

906
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: have success at the NFL level. So I think, you know,

907
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: those guys are just gonna continue to work with each

908
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 1: other and and you know, getting back to just Shannahn's

909
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: relationship with Jimmy G. I mean, he's a really extensive

910
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: playbook that that that that Jimmy G had a study

911
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: and Garoppolo picked it up in about a month, And

912
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's why I think, again, there's just so

913
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: much there's so much hype and so much uh, you know,

914
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: you know, good fortunate that the Niners are gonna be

915
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: able to have a great year this year just because

916
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: of that. Well, that conversation that you were listening in

917
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: when we were talking with the last call also revolved

918
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: around the offensive line, which is imperative for just about

919
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: any quarterback in the league, and they made a lot

920
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: of changes ryan to the offensive line this year the Niners,

921
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: and one name Giants fans are very familiar with that

922
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: being Western Richburg was signed as the new center. They

923
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: also drifted Mike McGlinchey got a big fat check that

924
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: we got a very nice investment from San Francisco. What

925
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: do you make of the offensive line and the changes

926
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: overall that the team made this offseason? No, I mean

927
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: this seems serious. I mean I mean again, I know

928
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: it's gonna kind of sound like it's it's kind of

929
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: going in circles here a little bit. But you know,

930
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: when you have a general manager and and a and

931
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: a head coach that are really behind the team winning,

932
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: you have to do it by first of all saying

933
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna do something, and second we have to go

934
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: out and sign those players to make it happen. And

935
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: as you of course, also though your center is a

936
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: really important position in football, people fail to realize how

937
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: important is. And the guy don't really snap in the football,

938
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: but he's the first line of defense against the quarterback.

939
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: Who who's going to get sacked by you know the

940
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: defensive line is coming after him. So you know, I

941
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: have a really a really strong center is key to

942
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: that and also helping to uh to shore up that

943
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: offensive line because you really can't do anything if you

944
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: can't have enough time to get out to get in

945
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: the pocket and and and read your defense and then

946
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: may be able to make passes. Did the size of

947
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: the investment and the speed of the signing with rich

948
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: Berg catch some people by surprise out there? Or and

949
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: I've read this a couple of different places. Does he

950
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: just really match the type of center that Shanahan's looking for.

951
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: He's not the biggest guy, he's more mobile, he can move,

952
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: he's very smart. Um, he's a guy that will communicate well.

953
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: Did he just have those specific characteristics that Kyle Shanahan

954
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: wants out of his center? Yeah? I think so, because

955
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: I think the NFL has become such a faster game now,

956
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think you have centers that are

957
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: just like these big, pulking guys really can't move. I mean,

958
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: I think nowadays in the NFL and every sport for

959
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: that matter. You could even talk about hockey or for

960
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: instances that's kind of a similar one. But speed is

961
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: so important these days in the league. And I think

962
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: a lot of times too, you're seeing how the NFL

963
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: is trying to crack down on all these really hard

964
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: hits that the guys are doing. And so I think

965
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: as a speed game where you're just trying to keep

966
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: keep the ball moving and make it exciting, exciting not

967
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: only for of course us, but for the fans um

968
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: and for management. Yeah, there's there's no question in my

969
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: mind that that Shannahan knew exactly what he's doing. I

970
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: mean this, this guy's you know, he's got a really

971
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: good pedigree. I mean, you guys know, I mean the

972
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 1: last last name says it all. I mean, for for

973
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: being the son of of Mike Shanahan and and implementing

974
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: what he's been doing with the fourty niners. I mean again,

975
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: I got a guy with a lot of high promise

976
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: and and and unfortunately you know, failing early, but you

977
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: know again once he get the right pieces in place.

978
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: This is why they had a five game winning streak

979
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: and I think again they're why they're going to compete

980
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: so heavily in the division this year. Well, it's Kyle

981
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: Shannon and the offense overall. Ryan. To me, what's interesting

982
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: John mentioned the winning streak they went on when Jimmy

983
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: g was acquired, but also the production really went through

984
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: the roof. If the points per game I thought was

985
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: extremely impressive. I mean he came aboard under sent to

986
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,959
Speaker 1: Ryan and all of a sudden, the Niners offense became

987
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: one of the most dangerous offenses overall. What jumped out

988
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: to you, specifically, in addition to Jimmy Garoppolo, why the

989
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: offense was so productive and you know, why do you

990
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: think that could very well carry into two thousand eighteen.

991
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: I just think they were all confidence level really picked up.

992
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: I mean I have to look back at some of

993
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: the numbers now because it was, you know, basically almost

994
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: a year ago that this all happened. But again when

995
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: I mentioned Goodwin and how much he you know, he

996
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: he came on and and even again like Carlos Hyde

997
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: even though he's not there anymore now, and all of

998
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, he showed, you know, serious interest

999
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: in wanting to stay with the forty Niners. I mean,

1000
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: it just it just takes one thing to really turn

1001
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: things around, because like I said, I mean, it was

1002
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: really night and day. I mean I was going to

1003
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: Niner games just before that, and nobody, I mean you couldn't.

1004
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: You couldn't even like give away free tickets to go

1005
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: to games. That was that bad. And you know, Levi

1006
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 1: Stadium is still a place that's gonna be I think

1007
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: difficult for fans to embrace because it really, you know,

1008
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: it's a nice venue, but it really doesn't have any

1009
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: kind of home field advantage. So this is gonna be

1010
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: the first year where you're really gonna see, you know, if, if,

1011
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: if fans can really warm up to the place and

1012
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 1: they can really use it to their advantage. So I

1013
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: just think that in the old again, it's a it's

1014
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: an overall mindset. It doesn't even just come down to

1015
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: like just one the one play. But if I had

1016
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: to pick one guy, it would have to be the

1017
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: play that I saw from Marquees good one. We're joined

1018
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: by Ryan Leon covers the forty nine as let's jump

1019
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: to the defense. Ryan, and to me, this is a

1020
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: boom or bus type of group. You go down the

1021
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: list and you see so many guys that were high

1022
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: draft picks in that front seven Eric Armstead first round pick,

1023
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 1: the farest Buck, their first round pick, Salmon Thomas, first

1024
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: round pick. Ruben Foster would have been a first round

1025
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: pick town wise, and we'll get to his specific situation

1026
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: in a little bit. And then this year they spend

1027
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: a Day two pick on friend one or the linebacker

1028
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: to b y U, I think is gonna be a

1029
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: good player, but last year the defense was unreliable. They

1030
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: gave a lot of points. So where do you think

1031
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: this defense is heading. Do you think a lot of

1032
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: these young guys can come into their own quickly enough

1033
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: to give some balance to what we were describing as

1034
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: an offense that's really coming into his own on that

1035
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I certainly hope so, because I

1036
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: think I think the biggest challenge before it is gonna

1037
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 1: have is that what I believe what Ruben Foster got

1038
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 1: a two game suspension. I mean, he's you know, and

1039
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: the good news at least for Ruben was was you know,

1040
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: a lot of what happened there was he said, he said,

1041
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: she said case, and it turned out that Ruben Foster

1042
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: was innocent. A lot of people in the media had

1043
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: to apologize for, you know, originally roasting uh, both both

1044
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 1: he and the forty niners for you know, even picking

1045
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: the guy. He's got a lot to prove. So I

1046
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be key that the other guys are

1047
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: able to step up and kind of make up for

1048
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: his absence, because I think once he is back, and

1049
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, with the with the combination with the

1050
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: Forest Buckner and some of the other guys. I mean,

1051
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: they they should be a formidable defense. I mean it

1052
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: remains to be seen though they're gonna be able to,

1053
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, hold teams under thirty points a game, because

1054
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: I always think thirty points to me is the key point,

1055
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: a key turning point where if you score, if you're

1056
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: giving up more than thirty points the game, the chances

1057
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: to be winning football games are pretty slim. Well, and

1058
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: the defensive numbers fluctuated last year, But to me, what

1059
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: was interesting was the passing defense really took a hit.

1060
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: They went from fourteen to twenty second from two thousand

1061
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: seventeen two thousand eighteen. Now, Ryan, I'm sure a lot

1062
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 1: of that had to do with I mean, we talk

1063
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: about the Giant suffered injuries, my goodness. I mean who

1064
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: was healthy at the defensive side of the secondary for

1065
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: the Niners last year? They were dropping like flies. So

1066
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: I guess that was one of the reasons they bring

1067
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: in Richard Sherman. One, how is Richard Sherman look if

1068
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: it he's coming off of the torn Achilles and what

1069
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 1: do you think he's going to do for this defense?

1070
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 1: I mean, so far, I've i haven't been able to

1071
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: see him in practice. But from what I've heard, he know,

1072
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: he looks pretty good out there. I mean, you know,

1073
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: again with modern athletes, I mean, these guys are you know,

1074
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: uh my Adonis's you know, and these guys really work

1075
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 1: out all the time. So you know, obviously he's not

1076
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 1: the same player he once was with the Seahawks in

1077
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: his prime. But I think, you know, with given his

1078
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: level of experience and respect that he has around the league,

1079
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: I think his presence is going to really serve as

1080
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,439
Speaker 1: being one that leads by example. So he's of course

1081
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: gonna i think, make some plays on the field, but

1082
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: then also his his ages, knowledge and experience will help

1083
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: to impart knowledge there as a mentor to these younger guys,

1084
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: and they're gonna there. You know, a lot of these

1085
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: guys are very very impressionable. So I'm I'm more than

1086
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: more than certain that the Niners brought him in for

1087
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: that for that purpose. What's his timetable for when you

1088
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get back on the field, you know,

1089
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: that's a good question. I would I would hope that

1090
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: he's going to be back maybe within um, you know,

1091
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: the second month of the season. I mean again, it

1092
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 1: kind of depends, you know, with with with the level

1093
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: of injuries that you have. But again, guys are so

1094
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: good at at recovering these days that you know, hopefully

1095
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,240
Speaker 1: the timetable is sooner rather than later. Well, Jimmy Ward,

1096
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: who is one of the players that they utilized at safety,

1097
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: I know, is making the transition potentially to corner until

1098
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: at least Richard Sherman could come back. I mean, what

1099
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: is that versatility you think do for this defense? Considering

1100
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: also Ward got hurt at the latter part of last season. Well,

1101
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean, again, as you guys know, I mean, I mean,

1102
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: you know, football is a brutal sport. I mean, you know,

1103
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: guys are dropping them all the time. So you know,

1104
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: in order to have that kind of depth where you

1105
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: have versatility and a guy like Jimmy Ward, who's a

1106
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 1: veteran player and can play in multiple positions, I mean

1107
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: that can only help but benefit a team or any

1108
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: team for that matter. I want to talk a little

1109
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: about the division. Uh, Seattle's kind of been on top

1110
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: of this division for a very long time. We saw

1111
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: a little bit of a changing of the guard last

1112
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: year with Sean McVeigh and the Rams. Obviously leaping up

1113
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: and playing great football. The Niners, as you mentioned, uh

1114
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: close the season out on a five game winning streak.

1115
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: How do you see this division plan? Then you have

1116
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,760
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, by the way, you still have a good defense,

1117
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 1: and we'll see how Josh Rosen and Sam Bradford do

1118
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: replacing Carson Palmer. How do you see this division playing

1119
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: at and how competitive do you think it's going to

1120
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: be throughout the year. I think it's gonna I think

1121
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 1: it would be pretty pretty good. I mean, the Niners,

1122
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: I think we'll be right there with the Rams. I mean,

1123
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: certainly the Rams of the favorite, just based on what

1124
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: they did last year. But um, I don't know it

1125
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: could you know, I certainly think it's gonna be at

1126
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: least you know, l A and San Francisco going back

1127
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: and forth at it, and then you you know, you

1128
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: might get a dark horse in there. And again, it's

1129
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: kind of hard for me to say right now. I

1130
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: just think it's still we still have a few, you know,

1131
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: a good month and a half before the season even starts,

1132
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know, you guys, I personally start really

1133
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: focusing on the standings when I see November one roll around,

1134
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 1: No question, well, I would agree with you. I think, Ryan,

1135
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: you certainly need to see at least the first quarter

1136
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,320
Speaker 1: of this season be before we make these bold claims

1137
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: and bold declarations. But the last one from me from

1138
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 1: a big picture perspective, you know, the Giants can relate

1139
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: to this sumwhat because you know, they also moved in

1140
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: a different direction. They brought in GM Dave Gentleman. They

1141
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: now have a new head coach. The Niners did that

1142
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: two years ago. What has John Lynch done for the

1143
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: culture of that organization, given the fact that they had

1144
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: some ups and downs in the last few years before

1145
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: he took over. I mean, I really think again, it

1146
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: still just comes down to Jimmy g I mean that,

1147
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 1: you know, you signed one guy who becomes your franchise,

1148
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: the face of your franchise. I mean that just the

1149
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: right there shows hey we're serious. I mean, you know,

1150
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: the Niners. It's it's funny how quickly they went from

1151
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: being you know, at the top, all the way down

1152
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: to the bottom and then back up. Not quite to

1153
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: the topic again, but but on on the upswing for sure.

1154
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you go from having you know,

1155
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, I mean, the Niners are one play away

1156
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: from winning a Super Bowl. I mean they end up

1157
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: having a falling out with hardball, which in the long

1158
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: run now looks like the Niners. You know, everything's turned

1159
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: out okay, But I mean, come on, they hired a

1160
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 1: guy like Jim tom Sula. I mean you hired you

1161
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: hired an a line coach, a guy who had never

1162
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: had any kind of real coaching experience. I mean, now,

1163
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: the guys, you know, able to enjoy a great life.

1164
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you got a huge contract from the four Niners.

1165
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: The Niners go on. Of course, you know, had Chip

1166
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: Kelly as their head coach, and that was a total

1167
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: abomination as well. So I mean the culture has completely changed,

1168
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: believe me, guys. Although the interesting thing is you still

1169
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: haven't heard that much about the Niners in the media

1170
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: yet because we're still getting over this Golden State Warriors hangover,

1171
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: and and now of course we're focusing on baseball. We

1172
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: just completed the Bay Bridge series. I mean, this is

1173
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: a big market for sports. I think people fail to

1174
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: realize that the only other market that's bigger with sports

1175
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: than here is New York. So the Niners right now,

1176
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say they're they're they're on the back page.

1177
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: But they're you know, they're at a point where you know,

1178
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna hopefully start getting the attention to training camp

1179
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 1: open in the next week and a half or so.

1180
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 1: And again, I really think just just the fact that

1181
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 1: if the Niners can can can do what they claim

1182
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: that they've been been able to do. And again getting

1183
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: that five game winning streak tow En, I mean that

1184
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: just that's that's just got that just kind of stokes

1185
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: the fire for a lot of these Niner fans I

1186
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: know for for sure. And I think, uh, someone like

1187
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: me who didn't, who didn't cover the team that carefully

1188
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, but of course covers them through

1189
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,399
Speaker 1: throughout the season. I'm curious to see how well they're

1190
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: gonna do. I think it'll be the biggest test will be,

1191
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: of course, when they strap on the paths and play

1192
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: that first preseason game. Ryan, good stuff. We appreciate the time,

1193
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: my friend, and will see you in November. Thanks Yan, Okay,

1194
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: thanks so much, John, and good talking to you guys.

1195
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: Sounds good. That's Ryan Ley on covers the Niners and

1196
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: the San Franciso Giants out there in San Francisco, folks,

1197
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: we got four minutes. We want to sneak in a

1198
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: phone call, maybe squeeze a guy in before we say

1199
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: goodbye here on Big Boo Kickoff Live on Giants dot

1200
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: Com to five on three. I'm not quite as bullish

1201
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 1: as Ryan. I think Niners will be good. I think

1202
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: they'll be competitive. I'm not assuming a playoff spot for them.

1203
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: I think I think in the NFC this year. It's

1204
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: a part of my French bitch of a it is.

1205
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you have to be really good to make

1206
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I think you look at a minimum

1207
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: ten wins, maybe more than that this year, and it's

1208
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 1: not gonna be easy. Well, I think the NFC West

1209
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: is going to be you could make the case or

1210
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: the entire conference, as you mentioned, with the NFC West specifically,

1211
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,720
Speaker 1: John and Ryan talked a little bit about it. Okay,

1212
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: the Rams, I would really be stunned if that team

1213
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: falls off significantly. You know that team is coming back

1214
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: intac Golf as a young quarterback. Sean McVey just put

1215
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: his stamp on that team. To be shocked that they

1216
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: won nine games. Wouldn't be shocked, no, but but nine

1217
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: could still very well be good enough to win a

1218
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: wild card could be, but it may not be. It

1219
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,320
Speaker 1: may not be guaranteed. But when would I be shocked

1220
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: if they won seven Yes, I'd be shocked if they

1221
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: felt a five hundred. To me, that's a team with

1222
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 1: a winning record. I agree. Do you look at the Seahawks,

1223
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, Seattle. I don't count them out only because

1224
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has been able to sometimes create things out

1225
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: of nothing. It's not a rebuild for them, it's a

1226
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: retool because Russell Wilson is still there. Correct, So when

1227
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: he's still there, it's always dangerous. But if they won

1228
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: seven games, would you be shocked? No, would not be surprised,

1229
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 1: because I want to see what this defense is going

1230
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: to do. That's the bill. The big question with faces

1231
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: and their offensive line still their offensive line. But you

1232
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: know what, I feel like we've talked about in previous years,

1233
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: and Wilson makes up for that a little. The running

1234
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: game is strung. I'll give you that, John that That's

1235
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: what I was more firing. He needs help. He does

1236
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: need some help. But despite the middle of the pack,

1237
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: and I feel like we've never really talked about the

1238
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: Seahawks with receivers and they still deductive Craig so and

1239
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: eventually that's gonna get the quarterback killed. Look Aaron Rodgers happen, Yes,

1240
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: so that's something that you have to monitor. But to me,

1241
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: the question mark with Seattle is more of a defensive thing.

1242
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: As far as Arizona goes. Sam Bradford looks like he's

1243
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: gonna be in line to start. I don't think they

1244
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: throws it. So Branford, could he stay healthy? And that

1245
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: defense thos a lot of weapons, so do not. Right

1246
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: off the Arizona Cardinals, David Johnson's back the running game two.

1247
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: He's not bad. And also there's a number of decent

1248
00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: receivers and Larry Fitzgerald still seems to be performing, and

1249
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: they added Justin Pew to help the offensive line, So

1250
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, Arizona. To me, i'd rank them obviously ahead

1251
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: of Seattle. The Rams are number one, and I think

1252
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: the nine is it right there with the Cardinals. John

1253
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: of that second place finish in the NFC West, which

1254
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: means the Niners. To me, I think it would be

1255
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: a disappointment if they're not at least relevant in the

1256
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: wild card conversation. That's where I'm looking before I get

1257
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: to my last two cars. One last question for you.

1258
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: More likely a wild card team emerges from the NFC

1259
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: West or the NFC East. That's a good question. I'm

1260
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: going to say that in all likelihood a team emerges

1261
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: from the West. Okay, then how about NFC Wester or

1262
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: NFC North West? Again, I agree. I think the West

1263
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: and East is very close. I think the North has

1264
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: the least likely chance of having a second team get

1265
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: to the postseason. Yeah, I mean the Bears. He's still

1266
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: got to go through the growing pains of Mitterroll Trubisky.

1267
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: I like Vic Fangio on defense. The Lions are Dr

1268
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: Jekyl and Mr. I'm gonna keep betting against Aaron Rodgers

1269
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: because the team around him. He's gonna keep burning me.

1270
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: And that's fine. That's that's the question though, because Ce

1271
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: and I I feel the Vikings are making the playoffs,

1272
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: and I was gonna say, the way I feel about

1273
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 1: the Rams is the way I feel about the Vikings.

1274
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: So I feel more confident about the Vikings than I

1275
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: do the Rams. Okay, I don't think that's crazy, but

1276
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: the Vikings to me, Kirk Cousins substituting in for case Keenum,

1277
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that's so many talented players on that

1278
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: and and I love the defense. Love Minnesota's deft defense

1279
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: is in the league. Every single layer of that defense.

1280
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: You've got multiple playmakers. It's a good problem. They're good,

1281
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: They're really really. I want to make sure I get that.

1282
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: Want to make sure you get to our final two calls.

1283
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: They just happen to play the worst game in the

1284
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: year at the worst possible time in the NFC Championship game.

1285
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: I think of the that Vikings team played that Eagles

1286
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: team ten times. I think it's five and five or

1287
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: maybe even six and four Minnesota. Yeah, I think that

1288
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: the defenses match up quite well. It was just a

1289
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: matter of I think the Vikings offensive line had a

1290
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: route awakening with what Corps Eagles challenged them with. With

1291
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: respect to some of the other defenses they faced, of course,

1292
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: the Vikings also kind of felt, you know what, backwards

1293
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 1: into actually making it to the NFC Championship games. Done

1294
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: the mis tackle it cat'st anyway, all right, real quick,

1295
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: Duke and Queen's he's up first, Duke, what's up? Hey, guys,

1296
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: what's up? I got a two questions? Yeah, rapid fire, dude,

1297
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: go ahead, alright, cool, cool, my first one is, um,

1298
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: what's up with r J McIntosh? Um was it was

1299
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: a bigger fan of him than b J. Hill, although

1300
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,479
Speaker 1: it was very very close. No updated, real quick, little

1301
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: bit quicker. Yeah, no update on r J yet. Hopefully

1302
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: whatever medical procedure he had to get done got done

1303
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: and he'll be ready to go to training camp. But

1304
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: we have not heard word yet since minicamps. I do

1305
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: not have an answer for you on here. We sign

1306
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: them because we just got Sambo, So it is it

1307
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: possible or no? Oh yeah they can. They can sign him,

1308
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: of course. I mean there's no deadline or anything that

1309
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: they're facing. With respect that he's their draft folks, don't

1310
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: worry about the draft, don't. Don't that they'll figure it out.

1311
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the draft picks getting signed. It'll they're

1312
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: all slotted. It'll happen. It's just a matter of time.

1313
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Okay. I love him, that's why. Um.

1314
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: Second question is, Um, you know when people say, oh,

1315
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: this team is going on paper like like Eli mentioned

1316
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: before and one of the interviews, Uh, when I look

1317
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: at teams that are good on paper like, they usually

1318
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: do good to me, like Tom Brady and his team

1319
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 1: good on paper. Aaron Rodgers pack is good on paper,

1320
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: so more often than not. Yeah, go ahead, I'm sorry,

1321
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, because they always make it to the playoff

1322
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: in so, um, considering this Giants team on paper, what

1323
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: are the teams that you think we can absolutely beat

1324
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: on paper? I know I noticed a lot of behind

1325
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,000
Speaker 1: pathetical and it's a lot of you know, things that

1326
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: play in the factor. But on paper, what teams do

1327
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: you think the Giants absolutely beat on their schedule or

1328
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: in the conference, on the on the schedule, on the schedule.

1329
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: All right, dude, thanks for the call. Um. Thanks man.

1330
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: First of all, I never like to use the word

1331
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: absolute when it comes to the National Football League because

1332
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: anything can happen. But the two games lands that I

1333
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: would feel best a bat if I'm a Giants fan,

1334
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: is home versus the Bears on December two, And I mean,

1335
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,160
Speaker 1: if Andrew Luck's playing, How good do I feel about

1336
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: at Indian December Mariota team? Last year they were good.

1337
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: They were good, They a good offensive line, they run it.

1338
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: Mariota is going to be better again. Corey Davis is

1339
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: having a second year in the league. The only game

1340
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: I feel I would feel really good about it. A

1341
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 1: lot of people actually think the Bears are gonna be

1342
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 1: much improve their changes they made. They might be, but

1343
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: there I guess, yeah, I mean, I guess Chicago, Tennessee

1344
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: and Indy and maybe Tampa. I don't know what they're

1345
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna be with Jamis Winston. Well, I mean he'll be

1346
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: back by then. Yeah, you don't know what's gonna happen, guys.

1347
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: It's a tough schedule. That's why the Giants can play

1348
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: really good football this year and go eait in eight.

1349
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: It's possible. You don't want to hear that, I know,

1350
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: but it's possible. That's how good the NFC is. Yeah,

1351
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: and they're playing the NFC South, which is to be

1352
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: the deepest division, and with the exception of the West,

1353
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: I mean their neck and neck, but the NFC South,

1354
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: all four teams have legitimate quarterbacks. They don't have question

1355
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: marks at that position. And it's extremely versatile that division

1356
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: in terms of what all those teams can do for you.

1357
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 1: And the Saints are now respectable on defense to you know,

1358
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: you play the Saints in previous season, be like, yeah,

1359
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: you'll light the Saints. Now the Saints will actually stop

1360
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: you defensively. And we know Caroline has always had a

1361
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: really good defense. Assuming for a second, which you I

1362
01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: know it's very dangerous to do that. Andrew luck is

1363
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: gonna be healthy in week sixteen? Would you might not be?

1364
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: But just assuming for second years. The only quarterback that

1365
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: the Giant face all year that you're really still not

1366
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: sure about is ms Dubitsky. And he was the second

1367
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 1: overall pen the draft two years and you're playing him

1368
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: week thirteen, which means he's going to have an entire

1369
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: half of his season under his belt. And us any

1370
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: Bear friend, they're gonna tell you he's their franchise quarterback.

1371
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 1: I mean you don't, You're not. You're not having any shoot?

1372
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: Who was that season? Wasn't there a season the Giants

1373
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: played like four straight backup course when Aaron Rodgers heard

1374
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: for the Packers and the j p P picked him off.

1375
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: What was the name of that kid, something Scott Tolze.

1376
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: We got there, we figured it out. JPP had to

1377
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: pick six offen. Yeah, then you played the Browns that year.

1378
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god. I remember that Bears

1379
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: were also and I think they played like the I

1380
01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: think they played the Packers the Bears. Was that two

1381
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen. Let's see, No, I didn't play Green

1382
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: Bay bag and it wasn't sixteen six that far back?

1383
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: Are we looking at Green Bay? Yeah, it wasn't. That

1384
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: wasn't it. That wasn't it. Well, this, no, this is

1385
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: the season because didn't Terrell Prior play? That might be

1386
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 1: the season, but you don't have all those games in

1387
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: a row against the bad quarterbacks. Though. I'm pretty sure

1388
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: the minutes to the game. This wasn't the game where

1389
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: remember they set football back about fifteen years that Monday

1390
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: night game. Do you remember that game? That was awful?

1391
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: I mean I remember how wait you know what, Josh Freeman,

1392
01:02:55,560 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: come on, that's was lands. You're right it was. I

1393
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: think the Eagles quarterback was hurt that week too. Well

1394
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: that was the Yes, that was the game where because

1395
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: you don't want I think we did the radio pregame

1396
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: show in Philly that year. I remember that. Yeah, Vic

1397
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: got hurt and um correct, Matt Barkley came Penny threw

1398
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: an interception down the field. I think Andrew Role picked

1399
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 1: him off. He did, and then the Raiders had a

1400
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: really bad quarterback that year. Darrell Prior came in because

1401
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: their starter was their starter. Oh boy, I don't know.

1402
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: You're right that was I don't know. That was a

1403
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 1: bad stretch of quarterback prior started that game. I'd have

1404
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,600
Speaker 1: to go back. But you know what's it funny about

1405
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,919
Speaker 1: that game? The Raiders scoring early touchdown because of bad

1406
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: field position or the Giants turned the ball over and

1407
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 1: then it went all downhill. Oh man, that season was memorable.

1408
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: Not necessarily Giants, but I remember if you covered the team,

1409
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:52,520
Speaker 1: you remember a lot of those games. All right, Charlie

1410
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: in Portland, Maine, he's gonna wrap us up. Chuckles. How

1411
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: ya doing? Okay, Charlie, you only got on for one point? Yes,

1412
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: why do we all? Why are we bringing in all

1413
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: these veteran guards. We must have like five veteran guards

1414
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: that we brought in on the offensive line, and we

1415
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 1: haven't brought in one veteran tackle because the veteran guards

1416
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: can still play football and the veteran tackles you want

1417
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,439
Speaker 1: to sign can't. That's true that it is not true

1418
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: a blind spot. This organization has had a blind spot

1419
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: for the last five years on tackles. I know we

1420
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: brought in Solder, which is great, but we should be

1421
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 1: bringing in a veteran tackle. If they thought if they

1422
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: thought they could play, they'd be here. They might not

1423
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,479
Speaker 1: think they can play, but they can play. There's guys

1424
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:55,280
Speaker 1: out why and why I understand it. Why every team

1425
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: in the NFL wants a good backup tackle. Why haven't

1426
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: they signed with any other team? A lot of them

1427
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: have the good backup they absolutely don't. Most tackle is

1428
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: the thinnest position in the league right now? What did

1429
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: what did Dallas do with the stacked offensive line? Who

1430
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 1: did they pick up Camel Play? I would have been

1431
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: a in favor of the Giant signing Cameron flying problem

1432
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: with that, but let's be fairier. The Cowboys last year

1433
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: I also felt picked up some veteran tackles and then

1434
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: Tyrone Smith misses two games. How Chaz Green Environ Bell

1435
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: do there you go? They stump What happened to that

1436
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 1: Dallas offense? Atlanta made mashed potatoes out of Dak Prescott.

1437
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: If you adan Claiborne, it's seven sacks seven So the

1438
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: point is what gave you the reason? I bring that up, Charlie,

1439
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: because clearly I love just reliving history with you. It's

1440
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: deja b all over again every time he calls in

1441
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: feel like the eighties with Michael Jordan. He does, by

1442
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: the way, by the way, not the eight Lance is

1443
01:05:54,400 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: barely born in the ad say one thing about what

1444
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: you could do? Uh, Jordan's nadd said something about at

1445
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:09,040
Speaker 1: least he's you know, he's confident, he has conviction, And

1446
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 1: I say, well, conviction can be dead wrong. And if

1447
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: you don't under your pu don't. If you can't be

1448
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: like a willow tree and not an oak tree, when

1449
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 1: the wind comes you bend, an oak tree breaks you.

1450
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 1: You've got to be able to adapt and adopt. Charlie,

1451
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: Here's that was one thing he could not do. Here's

1452
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: how if if you're trying to get to location X,

1453
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: and in order to go to location X, you have

1454
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: to drive to the west. But when you make your

1455
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: turn down this you start driving east. It's great that

1456
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 1: your conviction driving to the east. Guess what, every second

1457
01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: you drive in the wrong direction, you're getting further away

1458
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: from where you want to go exactly. And that was

1459
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 1: my point. That was my point anyway, and that was McAdoo,

1460
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: that was his fault. But anyway, we need some veteran tackles. Please, Charlie,

1461
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 1: see what I was going to answer before you then

1462
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: took us to a whole other tangent when Mike Jordan's

1463
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: which I can have a whole other show on, but

1464
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: and we're not. We're not going to do that. Dave

1465
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: will pull the plug so fast, you know. Let me

1466
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 1: get back to topic here. The reason why I brought

1467
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: up the Cowboys is the Cowboys had some volume and

1468
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: tackle and then the guys never produced. So your answer is,

1469
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: you just want bodies here. Bodies here is great, but

1470
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 1: the production is what matters. And if they don't feel

1471
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: that those bodies by bringing them in are gonna be productive,

1472
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: they'd rather evaluate the guys that are in house. And

1473
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,640
Speaker 1: plus nobody's put pads on yet, Charlie. That's the other thing.

1474
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: So who's to say that maybe the Giants don't bring

1475
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: in a tackle the second or third week of training

1476
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: camp if they're not content with who's playing behind Nate

1477
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: Soldier and Eric Flowers. I know, but they Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: keep bringing veteran guards, but all the guys, all the

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Speaker 1: tackles that you're campaigning for, because I know how carefully

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01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 1: you look at all the free agent tackles, analyzing yes,

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01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 1: tons of hours of film, more than so than pulled

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01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: the Tino, and you have to understand those guys are

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01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,160
Speaker 1: still out there. So if you sign them to day

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Speaker 1: versus you sign up three weeks from now. I really

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01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: don't think the market is going to drastically change. Well,

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Speaker 1: all I know is we better bring him in because

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: the flowers basket's got a hole in it, and it's

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01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,000
Speaker 1: had a hole for three years, and he ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: get any better. So that's all I'm saying. He is

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Speaker 1: a weak link and they're going to see that and

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Speaker 1: they're going to find that out. Guys left to bring

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Speaker 1: in because they're gonna need him. Thanks, guys, he's a pleasure.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Hearing from Charlie yes and talk about the

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Speaker 1: offensive line, that was a stunner. We did not expect

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Speaker 1: that conversation to take place on this program. News flash.

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Speaker 1: Charlie calls, you're gonna get some offensive line chatter. That's

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Speaker 1: why they can't put the pads on soon enough so

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Speaker 1: that Charlie can actually analyze some of the offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: as opposed to purely speculating that they should go out

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Speaker 1: and sign an entirely new team. Of course, that will

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Speaker 1: ask us what we saw a practice on the offensive line,

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01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 1: that I'll tell us we're wrong. Charlie's got a camera

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01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 1: that he's somehow implemented on the field secretly during the night.

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: He comes in from me and and he has his

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01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: different angles he could study. Are you on tomorrow show? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're all weak? Yeah, Oh, that's right because the Paul.

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Speaker 1: By the way, folks, if you're down at the Jersey

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01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 1: shore and you see an unnaturally tan man that's glowing,

1509
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,839
Speaker 1: that's walking un naturally fast down on the beach, muttering

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01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: into himself about the offensive line and the running game

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01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,599
Speaker 1: and the trenches, just walking away. Trenches, trenches, trenches, trenches, trenches.

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Speaker 1: That's Paul the Tino. But you know what, you know

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Speaker 1: what's funny about Paul. When we had no shows the

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01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 1: week of July four, he sends me a text because

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01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 1: we were doing the first show. He's like, oh my god,

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01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: this was the roughest week. I couldn't taken any more.

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01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm dying to get back. I can't do. And then

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Speaker 1: so that I'm saying, Paul, what the hell do you

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01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: go on vacation? Thank God? Well, I'm not complained. But

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is he just had a week off

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01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: and then he goes on another vacation. Well unless actually

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Speaker 1: spend time with family. I'm worried about as well being mentally,

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: and how he's not gonna be able to talk Giant Swimble.

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Speaker 1: But you're right, he's going to make around the beach

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Speaker 1: and then he's gonna talks to himself. You know how

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Speaker 1: dark he's gonna be when he gets back. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to have Dave set up another light form next to him. No,

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Speaker 1: you're not, you're not. You gonna look like the Palace

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Speaker 1: then alive. Casper the friendly Ghost, That's what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: with me. I'm not sure how friendly are ye? Well

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Speaker 1: that's true, Maybe that's the term. I'll have to switch

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Speaker 1: in and out Casper the glumpy Ghost. Anyway, folks will

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Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. What are we preview tomorrow? I see

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Speaker 1: how you're on topically top of thanks the Chicago Pan

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Speaker 1: You've got the bears. Tomorrow we'll see that. We'll have

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Speaker 1: to we'll see that.