1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Hey Colts fans. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 2: I'm JJ Sankowitz and this is another episode of the 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 2: Colts Show in Indianapolis Colts Podcast, we are presented by 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 2: Microsoft Surface co Pilot plus PC awesome episode coming up today. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 2: I wanted to know why has Jonathan Taylor been so 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: good this year? Obviously we see all the touchdowns and 7 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: the explosive runs and the broken tackles and all that, 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: but what really makes Jonathan Taylor the best running back 9 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: in the NFL? I want to go answer that question 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: with Colts running backs coach DeAndre Smith. 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It is my pleasure to be joined 60 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: here on The Colt Show by someone who has had 61 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: an up close look at Jonathan Taylor's remarkable start to 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five season. Running backs coach DeAndre Smith, 63 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: How you. 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 3: Doing, doing great, doing great things? For having me? 65 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 2: How could you not be Colter six and one? I 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 2: mean a pretty good, nice start to the season here. 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: Not a bad start at all. JT is, you know, 68 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 3: doing a lot of great things, and this fun to see. 69 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 3: And team is rolling. The offense is doing a great job. 70 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 3: Defensive guys are playing well. Special team, so you know 71 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 3: you kind of I like where we're at as a 72 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 3: whole team. 73 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 2: So tell me about the what's like a one little 74 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 2: detail that when you think about Jonathan and the season 75 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 2: he's having so far. Obviously we all see the runs. 76 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: We see the explosive runs, we see him breaking tackles, 77 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: him scoring touchdowns. What do you see that has led 78 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: JT to have the start to the season he's had 79 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: so far. 80 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: Number One, he's healthy, So I've always believed that's a key, 81 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: just keeping him healthy. And this, I feel like, is 82 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: the first time I've been with him in the last 83 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: you know, three seasons now or two and a half 84 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: seasons that he's been healthy and I can work with 85 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 3: him and developing all the little things that are important 86 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 3: and what he's doing from a just learning the offense, 87 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: understanding the offense being detailed, and challenging himself, you know, 88 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 3: being better pass protector, catching the ball out the backfield. 89 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: So this season has been like, hey, we can get 90 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 3: all these things put together so you can go out 91 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: and play your best. But the thing I'm I guess 92 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: I'm more pleased with is just his ability to learn, 93 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: retain information and try to get better every single day. 94 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: That mentality that he has. 95 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 2: I mean, he's had a season where he's had eighteen 96 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 2: hundred yards and twenty touchdowns, and he's talked about it 97 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 2: this year that he feels like he's a more developed player, 98 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 2: you know, in twenty five than he was in twenty 99 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: one when he had that season. So like when you 100 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: talk about him, you know, learning more of the offense 101 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: and kind of digesting more of this. 102 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: How has that now helped. 103 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: Him within maybe the structure of this offense this season. 104 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: So say, for instance, we're in practice and we're going 105 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 3: through a drill and there's some things I'm working on 106 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 3: with the footwork, and then the next level it's like, hey, now, 107 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 3: let's use your imagination. There's a safety. You know, it's 108 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: gonna come down. Make a place. This is individual, individual, 109 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: it's a safety's gonna come down. Make a play, you know, 110 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: use your imagination, make a you know, make a move, 111 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 3: do something right. And Tennessee game the first time we 112 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: played him, that run that he had when he spun, 113 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: I can literally go back and I say, hey, man, 114 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: there you go. You know it just worked on that 115 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: four days prior to that, and he and he used 116 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: that in the game. And when he is at that 117 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 3: level now where he can just go react and he 118 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 3: knows the plays, he knows kind of how we're fitting things, 119 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: he can go react and use his natural ability. That's 120 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: where you see these runs now where I feel like 121 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: he doesn't have to think about it now he can 122 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: just go play fast. 123 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: So you're talking about like you're going through individual warm ups, 124 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: which like as someone who you know, I'm sure we've 125 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: had listeners, viewers go to training camp practice and they're 126 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 2: watching those like, what do you what? I don't know 127 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: what you know. I've been covering football for fifteen years. 128 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: I sometimes don't know what really is going on in 129 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: those But like those little details, even though he's doing 130 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: it on air, Yeah, can lead to one of the 131 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 2: most remarkable touchdown runs that I've ever seen happen. 132 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it was just as simple. We probably worked 133 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: within a ten to fifteen yard amount of space and 134 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: it's just working on your foot quickness and movement. And 135 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: I'm a big believer in training your feet to make 136 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: moves that you're going to make in a game. And 137 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: I like to be able to do a drill and 138 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 3: then see the drill applied in the game and then 139 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 3: you see the result. And in that particularly touchdown. We 140 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 3: do those type of movements a lot. And then he 141 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 3: added the spend, which he had practiced that four days earlier, 142 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: and he was a to get to that level and say, oh, 143 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 3: you know what, I did this on Wednesday. Let me 144 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: hit him with a span and then he spun out 145 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: of and he did it. But yeah, when we're doing 146 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,239 Speaker 3: those drills, a lot of people, a lot of coaches 147 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 3: get on me because I have a lot of different 148 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: things going on. So it looks kind of cool and 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 3: fun because I'm gonna have some bags and cones and 150 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: pop up, but there's things that I'm trying to get 151 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 3: out of it and do it in a short space again. 152 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: So when you can apply it in real life, then 153 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: the guys can do it pretty fast. 154 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: So coaches get on you. Just Reggie Ever call you 155 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: like carrot Top Walks call your props. 156 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, I get it all the time. 157 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: It's like, man, what we got going on with recess today? 158 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: So I get that a lot. 159 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: In the meeting room when you're working with Jonathan, you're 160 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: installing the game plan for the week. Something that JT 161 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: mentioned is kind of what we've been talking about about 162 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: how Daniel came in. Daniel Jones came in and he 163 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: had already so much of the playbook ready that they've 164 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: been able to as an offense. I've been able to 165 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 2: kind of build and go from a really strong foundation 166 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: into like the next next level of things is you're 167 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 2: installing it. How is JS grasp of this entire offense, 168 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: not just himself in it, but grasp the other ten 169 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: guys on the field. How is that kind of manifested itself? 170 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 3: Well, he we spend a lot of one on one time. 171 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: He's not on special team, so I get some extra 172 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: time with him doing some of those meetings, and we 173 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: can sit and we can talk and and I can 174 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: you know, we put the game plan together and here's 175 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: what we're trying to attack, and this is how we're 176 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: trying to block it. And I can talk to him. 177 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes I can get on the board and showing, but 178 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 3: most of the time we're just talking and he knows 179 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 3: what I'm saying without actually needing, you know, needing me 180 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: to be on the board to do it. And I 181 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 3: think when when you have guys like that, then you 182 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: know they have their advanced now in their learning. They 183 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 3: understand and we can communicate, and then there's some things 184 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: you can see he can see on the field that 185 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: he can talk to me about that helps with just 186 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: the development. And you know, Daniel been with him in 187 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: New York. I knew kind of all those things that 188 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 3: he brought to the table, and he just, you know, 189 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: he really has done a job that way. But it's 190 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: cool with JT that he is at that level now 191 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 3: where he can articulate, understand what we're doing and then 192 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: go out there and execute. 193 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: The way that he's able to set up his blocks 194 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: and set up a run where it's not just you know, hey, 195 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a hole here, I'm just 196 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 2: gonna run straight into it. It's like he's I was 197 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: watching a bunch of cut ups today of all his 198 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 2: first down runs and the way it almost seems like 199 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: he's like toying with safeties is so impressive. The how 200 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 2: does he how does he get to that point where 201 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: he's able to do that. 202 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 3: Well, He's gifted with his vision and his patience. It's 203 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: just unbelievable. But but what I what I like to 204 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: believe I bring to the table when we're talking about 205 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 3: the next level making guys miss seeing certain things understanding 206 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: blocks is he and I can just kind of see 207 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, you know, this guy might 208 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 3: be free over here, and you might or you might 209 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,599 Speaker 3: want to bait him, give him a little hit and 210 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: not here so the block can overtake. But then you 211 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 3: go there and then you be one on one with 212 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 3: this guy. So he when when you're dealing with someone 213 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 3: that's like next level advanced vision and understanding and patience 214 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: is for me, it has been really easy to communicate 215 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 3: because we can see a lot of the same things. Uh, 216 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 3: And he can just do it at a at a 217 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 3: level that's unbelievable, and he's fast. So yeah, once he 218 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: makes a guy miss, and he's big and he's strong. 219 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: You know, I just only imagine safety is in the 220 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: open space. You know what they're thinking when they see 221 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 3: him coming downhill on them. 222 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: I mean the touchdown, the first touchdown against the Chargers 223 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 2: where Derwin kind of comes down. That's one of the 224 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: best safeties in the league, one of the most physical 225 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: safeties in the league, and he just whiffs on him. 226 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, you you put guys in the buying and and 227 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: what he's done. Jonathan's done for these first few games. 228 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 3: He's put on tape that he'll be physical. You know, 229 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 3: he might he might drop his pads, or he might 230 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: make you miss. So so now those guys are are hesitant. 231 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: They don't know what they're gonna get from him, and 232 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 3: he's using that to his advantage. It's like, hey, all right, well, 233 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna run away from you, you know. And 234 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 3: that's what I like about him. You can't really say 235 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: he's going to do this one thing. He has the 236 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: ability to change it up a little bit and I 237 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: like that and it'll keep guys guessing. 238 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: So the the also the ability he has to run 239 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: different run schemes or he's not just exclusively good at 240 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 2: running zone. He's not just exclusively good at running gap scheme. 241 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: That all plays into his entire skill set. 242 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: No question, right, no question, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, you know 243 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 3: he's a great gap runner. I like him in gaps, 244 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 3: I like him in outside zone, I like him in 245 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: inside zone, and so I like him on traps. You know, 246 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 3: it's kind of I like him on our duo plays. 247 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: And these all require a lot, like a different approach 248 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: to them. 249 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely. You know, say for a mir you know, Mayor 250 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: is a I knew immediately he can run outside zone. 251 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 3: It was a given that he's fast, he's decisive, he's 252 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: quick at it, and he'll make a cut and he'll go. 253 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 3: But he's a total and not that he can't do 254 00:11:57,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: other things, but I can tell immediately that he's a 255 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 3: really really good outside zone runner. Or with JT, because 256 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: you do need different kind of skill sets for those 257 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: different things. J T can he can pretty much do 258 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: it all. And he's catching the ball out the backfield, 259 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: so that's really helping everything now because if if he's 260 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,719 Speaker 3: not running it and just get him in space, just 261 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 3: throwing the ball and he can take a five year 262 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: pass and make it fifteen. 263 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: And pass protection. 264 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, pass protection. 265 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 2: I think my favorite play he had against the Chargers 266 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 2: was that chip and release knocked him to the ground 267 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: like a bowling me. 268 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 269 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 2: That type of physicality though, that he brings that He's 270 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: always had that, but it seems like this year, I'm 271 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 2: curious on your perspective on it, he's just been like, 272 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: for whatever, it's just been better. 273 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. That was a challenge, you know, to have him 274 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: be on the field and on third down situations and 275 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 3: being able to protect the quarterback, and he's taken it 276 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: and he's crushing it so far. And as a competitor, 277 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 3: you know, we've been together for a couple of seasons now, 278 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: there's been times I might use another guy, you know, 279 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 3: not necessarily that he couldn't do it, but maybe to 280 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: protect him a little bit too, because we're gonna ask 281 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 3: him do so many different things. But really, now you 282 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 3: can just leave him on the field. He can protect. 283 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 3: He's getting out of his stance, he's using his hands, 284 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: he's being physical, and that particular block we've all seen 285 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: that like that that we try to take pride in 286 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: being great at past protecting and that particular block we've 287 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: we have these teach tapes and we're showing guys doing 288 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 3: a great job in those thumps become thumps and chips 289 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: that I used Trey Sherman and during the game, you know, 290 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 3: JT's like, oh, I guess I can get on the 291 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 3: teach tape now. I mean, that's how important it was. 292 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: I said, absolutely, he's gonna be on the teach tape. 293 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 3: You know. 294 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 2: The first time he ever lined up in a slot 295 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: alignment and did one of those thumps against. 296 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: The Bears, he did it to Khalil Mack. 297 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: That's what he told me too. 298 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he told me. 299 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: He said he had to get him back though, so 300 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. Did he get him then. 301 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: It was okay, he got him, you know a little 302 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: bit and Phillip through a pass that was incomplete. I 303 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: think Trey Burton dropped it on the other side, but 304 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 2: it seemed like he didn't knock him to the ground though. 305 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that was the thing he mentioned that he'said 306 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: I had to get him back from yeah, you know, 307 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: the first my first rookie year or whatever doing that. 308 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 3: But he definitely got him back for sure. 309 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: Did facing lose defense in the way that they blitz 310 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: in the challenge that puts on a running back. Did 311 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 2: that help him this year in terms. 312 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: Of absolutely, you can't. You know, you know when you 313 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 3: getting that work every day and that's always the lemma 314 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: of what you do offense defensively, how if that can 315 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: help you down the road, if you're getting at full 316 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 3: speed or if you have to do it and walk through. 317 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 3: So our defense, because of our rules and things like 318 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 3: that and understanding how we're protecting, we had to be 319 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: on it because we don't necessarily game plan against our defense. 320 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 3: You just have to work your rules. And if you 321 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: know your rules, then you know you can be successful 322 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 3: in picking up what lewis bringing. And we did a 323 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: good job on that most for the most part, but 324 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 3: helping that full speed you got like guy like Zaire 325 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: you know him and JT. They'll go at it. So 326 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 3: it's not like guys are you know, being passive. They're 327 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: doing what they need to do too, and our guys 328 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: had to go and actually execute. 329 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: So we were talking about this a little bit before 330 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: we started recording, like, are you aware when JT's having 331 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: like a game, you don't really look at stats. 332 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 3: It's a coach, right, Yeah, I don't look at the 333 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: stats this this last game, you know, I kind of 334 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: got word that he was close to getting over one 335 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: hundred yards, So that was something that we were hoping 336 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: he'll be able to do or he was going to 337 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: be able to do, but the runs didn't match up 338 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: to on the last couple that would have got him that. 339 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 3: But for the most part, yeah, I would know yardage wise, 340 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 3: you know, kind of whorries at. I can probably have 341 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 3: a feel. You know, usually JT is good for about 342 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: a twenty yard run or somewhere around there, so I figured, 343 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 3: get about two or three in a game, he's gonna 344 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 3: be okay, you know overall. So that's kind of how 345 00:15:58,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 3: I gauge stuff. 346 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: What do you have to do to like manages workload 347 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: during a game? 348 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: You know, I'm always constantly watching him and he and 349 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: I just we have a deal. I can look and 350 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: I can kind of tell back to back runs and 351 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: there longer and things like that. You know, I kind 352 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: of just try to stay on top of that and 353 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 3: just kind of see how he's going. And we have 354 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: a we have a little deal that if you know, 355 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 3: he looks like he's really tired, and you know, he 356 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: kind of looks like he might want to come out 357 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 3: always say give me one more. So he knows that 358 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: if he's there, it's going to be one more no 359 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: matter what. 360 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: When you do need to take him out. Though, you 361 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: got a mirror Ofdullah on this roster. Now he's he's 362 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: been in the league for eleven years. That is as 363 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: a as a running back. Yeah, and you know the 364 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: kind of roles he's had to play over eleven years. 365 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 2: When when you got him here, what did you kind 366 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: of realize about him? Of like, man, this is why 367 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: he's been in the league for this long. 368 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: He's a pro. He's a professional. He's a immediately you know, 369 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: a guy that's been in the leaf for over a decade. 370 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: And one of the first things I was impressed with 371 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 3: he was a yes, sir, you know, no sir kind 372 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: of guy, you know, for a guy that you know 373 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 3: has done it as well as he's done it. And 374 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 3: that was probably the most the first thing I noticed 375 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 3: was like he's like, yes, skir, coach, and he was 376 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 3: willing to learn. And because we were I wasn't sure, 377 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 3: you know how long I had to get him ready. 378 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 3: So you know, he hit the ground running, and I 379 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 3: mean he literally just studied all day, all night and 380 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: he came. You know, by the first week he was ready. 381 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 3: We could have used him if we needed them, and 382 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: we didn't that first week, but the second week he 383 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: was ready. But he's just professional. He's he's super smart, 384 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: seeing a lot, easy to communicate with, works hard, and 385 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: he's good for our room because that's this is like 386 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 3: the first time in my career to have a guy 387 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: like that, with a guy like j T. And then 388 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: I got younger guys kind of in the middle, and 389 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 3: it's a good mix on two bookends of guys to 390 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: have in the room. But he's been awesome since he's 391 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 3: been here. 392 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 2: But what I like, just watching it from the press 393 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 2: box in LA was that third and three where I 394 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,959 Speaker 2: see a mirror get on the field and my thought is, 395 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 2: not having watched a ton of. 396 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 3: He comes up, here, comes past, comes past. 397 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: I know he's protect and it's just they got in 398 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: this you know, funky pressure look and just hand it 399 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 2: off to him, get eight nine yards. 400 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: That's just like that. I was like, man, that was awesome. 401 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well again, when you're working with these guys every day, 402 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 3: you have a feel on what they can. 403 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: Do, but you knew. 404 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 3: I knew, Yeah, absolutely, I knew, and I thought that 405 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 3: would be a great situation because number one, he was 406 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 3: going to hit it and he's a good he's a 407 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 3: he can run outside zone, but he can run inside 408 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: zone too, and he's tough, and this stage of his career, 409 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 3: this opportunity, I know, he's thankful for it. He's gonna 410 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 3: get me everything he has. So you know, you got 411 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 3: that working for you that Hey, this guy if he's 412 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 3: in that situation, just like he scored his touchdown. You know, 413 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 3: he got in there for a couple plays and he 414 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: scored a touchdown. But I knew that if there was 415 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: going to be you know, a bang bang type of play, 416 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: he was gonna find a way to get the first down. 417 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 3: So for me, it was gratifying just because I'm like, 418 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 3: that's why I put you in there, and when you 419 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 3: believe in your guys, yeah, and they go out and 420 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 3: the execute and you know, everybody wins in that situation. 421 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: I like the like connections that, like football is a 422 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: huge sport, but it's kind of a small world, right, 423 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: Like Jimbob was with a Mirror for four years in Detroit, 424 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 2: and I just I asked him in a press conference 425 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 2: on Tuesday about like what he saw in him then, 426 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: and you know he's not Jimbob basically isn't surprised he's 427 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: saw in the league. Right, Speaking of connections, you were 428 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 2: with Shane Stikeen at U n l V. 429 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: You explain that one. 430 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, U n l V. This would have been two 431 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 3: thousand and nine, maybe two thousand and eight, getting up 432 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: there in years now, and I was the running back 433 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,959 Speaker 3: coach there. He was a graduate assistant. He had just 434 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 3: finished playing, so he was he was there with our 435 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,479 Speaker 3: head coach at time, got ned, Mike Sanford, So so 436 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: he was on he was on our staff, and what 437 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: I can remember, it was just kind of a natural connection. 438 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 3: He's on the offensive side, but he was working with quarterbacks. 439 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 3: I'm the running back coach. But we kind of seem 440 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: to connect, you know, and and we were just kind 441 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 3: of was hanging out my office, you know a lot. 442 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: But I could I could tell you meet him, like, man, 443 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 3: this guy is really really smart, you know, like he's 444 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,239 Speaker 3: pretty good. So you fast forward, we're working together. At 445 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: the end of the season, we get fired as a staff, 446 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 3: and you know, so it's like, all right, you know, 447 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 3: guy's gonna gotta go find jobs. Well, the head coach 448 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 3: was going to be the offensive coordinator at Louisville with 449 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 3: Charlie Strong. Mike Sanford was going, and Mike Sanford wanted 450 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: Shane and I shaneon myself to go, so so it 451 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 3: was kind of like so then we kept this communication 452 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: going because we thought we're going to continue to work together. Well, 453 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: I take a job at Illinois, he goes to Louisville, 454 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 3: and then he goes into the NFL. But throughout that time, 455 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: we just always stayed in contact. I can remember one 456 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: time my family and I we were going to San Diego. 457 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,479 Speaker 3: He was in with the Charges and I stopped by. 458 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: I tried to hook up with and we didn't hook up, 459 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: but we always just it was one of those this 460 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 3: organic kind of hey man, I respect you, You're smart, 461 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 3: but a good guy. And we just stayed in contact 462 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 3: with each other for all these years. And and then 463 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 3: when he got the OC job with the Eagles, he 464 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 3: tried to get me on with the Eagles, and uh, 465 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 3: it didn't work out, but it was a great opportunity. 466 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 3: And and then when this this opportunity came, I jumped 467 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 3: at it. 468 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that I think it's a lesson for 469 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: kind of anyone. You never know who you know, you 470 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 2: could have been a I'm the running backs coach here, 471 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: just some low level assistant, Go do gruntwork for me, 472 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 2: Go get me coffeebutely. 473 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: But that mutual respect. 474 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 2: For anyone, whether they're beneath you or above you, you 475 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 2: never know when that's gonna pay off. 476 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. I try to tell guys all the time, you 477 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 3: know that you just you don't know. And and and 478 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 3: he's he was, He's a great guy. And that's just 479 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 3: not my nature anyway to be that way. But but guys, 480 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 3: you know, they do need to understand. You know, the 481 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 3: same people you see going up will be the same 482 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: people you see going down, so you better be careful 483 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: on just how you treat people. And but that wasn't 484 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 3: hard at all for me to do that. And then, 485 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: like I said, it was an organic, real thing. So 486 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: we were able to maintain this relationship for so many years. 487 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: I know it's probably a hard question to answer because 488 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 2: who knows at that point, but like, did you see 489 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: like head coaching, like like what it took, because like 490 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 2: I had this conversation with Austin Collie right played for 491 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: the cole t wide receiver. He was Shane's teammate in 492 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 2: high school, and Austin was like, oh, yeah, I could 493 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: totally see him. 494 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see. You can see guys just how 495 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 3: they carry themselves, how the one thing when guys is 496 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 3: super smart and then the guys like it's all ball, 497 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: you know, and it's like it's all ball. He's consumed 498 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 3: with it to learn it, to be the best. And 499 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 3: then so when you're working with him, and then I 500 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 3: see kind of his career as it was going when 501 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: he was just a low level guy with the charges, 502 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 3: just just moving up, moving up. Those guys that that 503 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 3: those are the paths those guys take when they have 504 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 3: that potential. And yeah, I wasn't surprised at all. 505 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: All Right, I want to talk about your playing career 506 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 2: because you were in the nineties. In the nineties, yes, 507 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: you you're in the CFL. 508 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 3: CFI was with the Calgary Stampeters and I did one 509 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 3: season there and then I played over in France. Yeah, 510 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: in a place called Exon Provence and uh with the. 511 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: Argonauts, the the Exon Provence Argonauts Orgonized. Yes, Okay, so 512 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 2: tell me about playing in France because like, we're obviously 513 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,959 Speaker 2: going to Berlin in a couple of weeks. Yes, uh, 514 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 2: you know, hosting this international game there. What was it 515 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 2: like in the nineties playing American football in France? 516 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 3: It was number one, it was a It got the opportunity. 517 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 3: I was working. I was just finished up my degree. 518 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: I went back to school. I was working in the 519 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 3: career playing placement office and I actually got a call 520 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 3: at the office from this guy named Go and he 521 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: was the head coach of the organize and he's speaking English, 522 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, you know, is this a 523 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 3: joke because I'm at work, you know. He's like, no, 524 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: this is I say, well, what where are you at? 525 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: You know, I'm the head coach with the organized and 526 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: ex timeprovints. I'm like, I don't know where that's at. 527 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 3: I say, well, can I call you back? So I 528 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 3: called him back and he explained to me that he 529 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 3: was hey, man, I run this kind of spread offense. 530 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,719 Speaker 3: I've watched you play in college. You're perfect for what 531 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 3: I'm looking for. And I'm like what And he's like, 532 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I don't. 533 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: Know anything about where did you go to college? 534 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 3: I went to Missouri State. 535 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: So he's grinding Missouri State, right. 536 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and this is the old school tape. This 537 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: is not yeah, you know, he's not You're not getting 538 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: this off. Pff No, this is like an actual, realer tape. 539 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 3: So I'm I'm totally confused on how this is all happening. Well, 540 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: we we talk and we're communicating, explaining to me, hey, 541 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: we're playing the top league over in Europe and this 542 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 3: is my team, and I've been in Switzerland and he's 543 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: a Canadian. He was a French Canadian guy, so he 544 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: can speak French and he can speak English at the 545 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 3: same time. So it was it was really wild. So 546 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,160 Speaker 3: we fast forward. I go and I'm like, you know what, 547 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 3: I'm young, I'll go. I'll go. I was in Canada, 548 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 3: so I'll go to France and so I go. It's 549 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 3: right outside of morse right on the tip of the 550 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 3: French French Riviera, so south of France. And uh, it 551 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: was a top, you know, top organization for that level. 552 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: I equate it to It's probably because you have to 553 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 3: play with the Frenchman and you can get like three Americans. 554 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 3: It's probably a good Division two type level of player, 555 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 3: maybe one double A. 556 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't have great plays from Wisconsin Whitewater. 557 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly that type. And then you have some no, no, 558 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 3: we don't want to disreflect it. Them guys play good 559 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 3: for all, but but it was it's not real there. 560 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 3: It's their pro level, but it's not. It wasn't like 561 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 3: our what we know it as. But it was fun. 562 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 3: It was fun. So I played quarterback over there. Our 563 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: team went undefeated. I had some I mad some great 564 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: teammates and you know, speaking of Berlin, like my teammates 565 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: are gonna come, They're gonna come. They all set there, 566 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 3: they set, they fired up, ready to go. You're like 567 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,959 Speaker 3: French teammates, my French teammates. And uh so let me 568 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: circle back. So to two summers ago. Well, during COVID, 569 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 3: they inducted me into their Hall of Fame and they 570 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: called doing COVID and said, hey, we have this trophy. 571 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: Where do you want us to send it. I said, 572 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: you know what, don't worry about it. I'll come back 573 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 3: and get it. And I hadn't been back. This was 574 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 3: in the mid nineties, and I said, don't worry about it, 575 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 3: I'll come back and get it. So two summers ago 576 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: I went back and I got it. 577 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 1: That's amazing. 578 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, so I had a nice little deal for 579 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: me and all that. So so we connected then and 580 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: they they've been following my career since I've been in coaching, 581 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 3: so they've always reached out on Facebook. So now they're 582 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 3: all doing it, like guys gonna come to the game. 583 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 3: They all fired up. They want to see d D. 584 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 3: That was my French name for some reason. I don't 585 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,439 Speaker 3: I don't know how became d D. But like my 586 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: niece and my nephew, they called me d d. Uh. 587 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 3: They're the only that was the only group of people 588 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 3: that ever called me d D in my life. But 589 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: I know when I hear that, I know where I 590 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: know I'm from. 591 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: How many people showed up to these games? 592 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 3: You know what? It's funny you say that because we 593 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: probably had a few thousand and it felt like a 594 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 3: soccer game. 595 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: That's great. 596 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So they cheered the whole time and they 597 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: just go have a good time. And it was a 598 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 3: little foreign to them to see American football. But but 599 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: we actually had we played good quality football. I had 600 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: had a running back, there was a Frenchman that was 601 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 3: really really good. We had a couple of linebackers, that 602 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: were Americans played at Georgia, so we had a we 603 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 3: had a top team and we uh we made it 604 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 3: to their euro Bowl, which is one of their top deals. 605 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 3: That was kind of cool in Helsinki, and it gave 606 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: me an opportunity to see the world. Yeah, I got 607 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 3: a chance to uh I probably hit about ten Olympic 608 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 3: sites around the world. That was kind of cool. So 609 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 3: so yeah, it was it was a lot of fun. 610 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: I mean experiencing that and now fast forward thirty plus 611 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 2: years later, I know we're gonna have ninety thousand people 612 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: at the Olympic Stadium in Berlin. 613 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: For cost game. Is like, it's really is incredible just 614 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 3: to kind of just look back and just see the 615 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 3: journey and it's exciting, you know. I'm definitely appreciative of it. 616 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: For sure. 617 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 2: We'll be looking forward to h d D on the 618 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 2: sidelines there the Gaults and the Falcons in Berlin in 619 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. Cults and Titans this week, and 620 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 2: we'll be also looking for Jonathan Taylor to keep up 621 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: his remarkable start to the season. DeAndre Smith, thanks for 622 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: joining me here on the pod. 623 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 3: Appreciate thank you all. 624 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 2: Right back here on the Colt Show. It's time for 625 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: the Colt Show mail Bag, presented by Microsoft Surface co 626 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 2: Pilot plus PC, where every day is Game Day. Remember 627 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 2: you can submit your questions at Colts dot com slash 628 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: mail Bag, here in the YouTube comments of this episode, 629 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: or get at me on social media at jj Stankowitz. 630 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: All right, our question this week comes from Sherman E. 631 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 2: Flucus the second from Indianapolis. Sherman asks, with the synergy 632 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 2: of the team right now, would it be hoover discombobulate 633 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 2: to add a star player to the roster or is 634 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: there enough championship leadership to have whoever fall in line 635 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: and expedite the bond to keep the train rolling to 636 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: a potential Super Bowl. 637 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: Al right, good. 638 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: Question here, just about like making a big move at 639 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 2: the trade deadline, because that is something obviously the Colts 640 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 2: are are six and one. It's something that is part 641 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: of the discussion now about this team. Will they make 642 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 2: an addition at the trade deadline? This is more a 643 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: global statement about the NFL trade deadline. It doesn't always 644 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 2: work out that way, Like, don't expect just because the 645 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: Coults are good for them to go make a move. 646 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 2: They might try Chris Ballard might absolutely try to go 647 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: make a move, but you gotta have a willing partner, 648 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 2: and they're just there have not been a ton of 649 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 2: big time trade deadline acquisitions in the NFL like in season, 650 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: and I think, to Sherman's point about it just being 651 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: like a star player, that's really rare. It is really 652 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: rare to see a star player move during the season. 653 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: So I went back and looked at the last couple 654 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: of years for the trade deadline, which, okay, what happened 655 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: leading up to the deadline so last year, and I 656 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: just I was only looking at guys who are traded 657 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 2: for Day two or Day one draft picks, because you know, 658 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: you do see a number of moves where it's like 659 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: a guy's you know, you get a six for someone, 660 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: or trade a seven for someone or whatever it might be, 661 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: even a five. You know, you're trading Day three picks 662 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 2: for usually a veteran who's going to come in for 663 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: half a season and then they're going to go go 664 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 2: off into free agency. So last year, there were two 665 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: trades before the deadline in this in season that involved 666 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: a Day two pick. The New York Jets traded a 667 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: third rounder for DeVante Adams and the Washington Commanders traded 668 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 2: three picks, including a third rounder, to the New Orleans 669 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 2: Saints for cornerback Marshawn Lattimore. I think the Commanders are 670 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: maybe a little analogous to what the Colts have right here, 671 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: just in terms of they're a team that arrived and 672 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: whether internally they expected that. I know the Colts expected 673 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 2: this internally, Externally certainly people did not. They went out 674 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 2: and they said, we have a need on this roster, 675 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 2: We're going to go address it. They went and they 676 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 2: got a very good corner in Marshawn Ladimer, a veteran there. 677 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 2: But if you're looking for like that big splash trade, 678 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 2: a third rounder was as high as any team got 679 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 2: last year for a player. In twenty twenty three, there 680 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 2: were two trades involving a second round pick. The Bears 681 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 2: traded the second rounder to the Commanders for Montes Sweat, 682 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 2: and the Seahawks traded a two and a five for 683 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: Leonard Williams. So a couple of defensive lineman making moves there. 684 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 2: You know, those are both trades that I think maybe 685 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 2: were made almost for like the future. In mind, the 686 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 2: Bears weren't winning in twenty three and the Seahawks were 687 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: trying to. I think they did make the playoffs that year, 688 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 2: but Leonard Williams under contract for a little bit longer. 689 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 3: Right. 690 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two is the year where like things went 691 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: nuts in the NFL. If you remember that was the 692 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: Dolphins traded a first round pick to the Broncos for 693 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: Bradley Chubb. Dolphins went said, hey, we got a really 694 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: good team this year. We need to bolster our pass rush. 695 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: Let's go get Bradley Chubb. The Bears acquired a second 696 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: round pick from the Ravens for Roquan Smith. They then 697 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 2: traded their own second round pick to the Steelers for 698 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: Chase Claypool. That was the number thirty two overall pick 699 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 2: that year, and the Chiefs traded a third for Kadarius 700 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: Tony and the forty nine Ers traded four picks for 701 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,959 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. So, like twenty twenty two is the year 702 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: where like things were just like nuts. It's like, oh my, 703 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: there's the best trade deadline the NFL's ever had. It 704 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: felt like an NBA or MLB one. But that's the 705 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 2: exception here. And I wonder if there was some stuff 706 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: with like the COVID salary cap and. 707 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: Maybe that impacting it that year. I don't know. 708 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: All I know is that like this stuff doesn't happen 709 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: very often because of two big reasons. Number One, teams 710 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 2: do not want to give up on their season. You're 711 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: if you've if you're one in six right now, you 712 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 2: don't want to admit the season's over in week eight 713 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 2: by trading one of your best players for draft capital. 714 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 2: That's hard to do for a team to do. Coaches 715 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: don't want to do it, gms maybe don't want to 716 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,880 Speaker 2: do it if they don't have long term job security, 717 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 2: and owners don't want to do it because you're saying 718 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 2: this season's over. Why would fans want to show up 719 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: and engage with your team if you're telling them the 720 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: season's over. So it's hard to do that from that standpoint. 721 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 2: The other thing is if you have a player who's 722 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 2: going to be an impending free agent after this year 723 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 2: and your team's not very good, and you're like, maybe 724 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 2: we'll trade him, or maybe we'll try to resign him. 725 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: You're signed to do an extension and if he walks, 726 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 2: then we'll get a third round compick for him. So 727 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 2: that's like if you're going for a really good player, 728 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 2: like you have to beat out a shot at extending 729 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: this guy in a third round compick. That's not also 730 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: super easy to do. So again, just I like the question. 731 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: I like the thought that the Colts are sitting here 732 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 2: at six and one, do they try to bolster their roster. 733 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: I think try is different than accomplish, and it's not 734 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: for a lack of effort, certainly that teams are not 735 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,720 Speaker 2: always able to pull these trades off during the season. 736 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: It's you got to have to make a trade. You 737 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: can't just go, you know, Force accept and Madden and 738 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: all of a sudden you get this guy in your team. 739 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 2: You have to have a willing trade partner, you have 740 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 2: to have fair compensation, and sometimes you have to work 741 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: out a contract extension for the guy you're trading. Force, 742 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 2: so a lot there. Just definitely keep an eye on 743 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 2: it over the next couple of weeks for the Colts to, 744 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 2: you know, potentially look to bolster their roster. But not 745 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: something that I'm gonna sit here in this chair and 746 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 2: say it is guaranteed to happen. Well, we'll see, We'll 747 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 2: just you know, definitely keep an eye on it. But again, 748 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: trades don't always happen in the NFL like they happened 749 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty two, where things just went nuts that year. 750 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 2: Usually it's more like last year where you get a 751 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: couple of these trades. Yeh, third rounder, Day three picks 752 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 2: for a guy to help out your roster. But maybe 753 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: isn't going to be like the difference maker of you know, 754 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 2: bringing a unit that's struggling to be you know, great 755 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 2: for a team that's trying to contend. All right, that's 756 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 2: this week's edition of The Cult Show mail Bag. Remember again, 757 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: submit those questions at Colts dot com slash Mailbag in 758 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 2: the YouTube comments or hit me at Jjsankobitz on social media. 759 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: That is also going to do it for this episode 760 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: of The Cult Show. Remember, next week's episode will come 761 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: out on Tuesday after the Colts face the Tennessee Titans. 762 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 2: Jackdoyl podcast is moving to Thursday, and The Cult Show 763 00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 2: is presented by Microsoft Surface Copilot plus pc Greatness in 764 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: the NFL is built on preparation and quick decisions. 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