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Visit audible dot com, slash I 27 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: heart or text I Heeart to five hundred, five hundred 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's to show that she 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's given me 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the incase you didn't notice, 32 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: I'm not broke. You know he'll be interview with celebrity CEO, 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision make because it's what he likes 34 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: to do, It's what he likes to share. Now it's 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: time to hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money making Conversations. 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Here we go. I am money making conversation. I'm their 37 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: host of money making conversation. She's on the phone, my nixt. 38 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna calling my dear friend because I've known this 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: so many years, but she never mete me. My next 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: guest is a movie legend and Blaze a trail for 41 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: all actresses. She showed Hollywood that women could open and 42 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: carry movies as the lead characters. She started in such 43 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: movies as Brown Sugar Yeah, Foxy Brown Yeah, Coffee, Cheba Baby, 44 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: and Friday Foster, to name a few. She also started 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: Jackie Brown, written and directed by Quentin Tarantino, and received 46 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: a Global Golden Globe nomination for Best Actress. I Rashan 47 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: McDonald first met her when she's being arnored in the 48 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: ball That's when I really really met her, you know, 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: like I said, she still I was just unknown with 50 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: shand I didn't have my show now and now we're 51 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: moving big. Now stands for a National Association of Black 52 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: Broadcasters in Washington, d C. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation, 53 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: Pam Grier. Hey, extraordinary, thank you, thank you for having 54 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: me on your show. Well, you know, first of all, 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy to be uh, you know, first of all, 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: let me just talk about I gotta get this first 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: part of our relationship. I've been done and and and uh. 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: And on the Jamie Fox Show, a young man came 59 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: into my life. I was co executive producer to the 60 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: Jamie Fox Show and he was the executive producer Jamie 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: Fox Show at the time. His name is Bennie rich Berg, 62 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: and he he changed my life as a writer. And uh, 63 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: and he's always said, because you know, uh, you know, 64 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: Pam Grid, that's my good best friend. I go, Pam 65 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: grew your friend Benny, because Bennie short he's showed, you know, 66 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: he needs the sexiest looking dude, Benny Betty. You know 67 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: Pam Grid. Yeah, Pam Grid my good friend. He always 68 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: would tell me that, And then I'm damn, you know 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: what I believe? After while then I'm looking at her 70 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: own on the Wendy Williams Show and she brings up 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: Bennie Richberg name because they are good friends. And so 72 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: so tell me, how did you and Bennie Richberg? This 73 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: this incredible sitcom writer, incredible man become friends. Well, getting 74 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: rich for my autobiography and just been published by Grand 75 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: Central Publishing and was in a store for one of uh, 76 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: the industry bookstore called Samuel French he saw my book. 77 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: It was number twenty on the New York Times bestseller list, 78 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: and he lost his mind, jumped out of the car, 79 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: ran into the store, bought the book, read it, and 80 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: optioned it that night. And I said, do you know 81 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: you'd be writing like Quentin did from the female side 82 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: of your brain? He said, I'm gonna do it, and 83 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: thenny It took him two years, but he jumped in 84 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: the car with his with his favorite dog, drove up 85 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: the California a bluzzard from California to Colorado. Saw a 86 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: mountain lion run across the road and said, no, she 87 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: don't live out here. And he said, he found out 88 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: me as she do. And he lowered the whole camped 89 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: down and went through the entire history of my family, 90 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: the Black West Underground rail Road, writing that my autobiography, 91 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: adapting into a screenplay, and did the most brilliant job. 92 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Took him two years to talk about A professor, a teacher. 93 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: I call him Lord of the Pen. He's so good 94 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: at what he did, and he was so committed and 95 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: came out with one of the best screenplays. And we 96 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: not only have we become friends, I have watched him 97 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: and heard about your legacy, his legacy, Will Smith legacy, Jazzy, Jeff, 98 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,799 Speaker 1: everybody who um you know they kind of grew up together, 99 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: were around and so when he brought up the book 100 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: with Jazzy and Idris Al was around him, heard interested, 101 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I have to be in a pen Green movie. I 102 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: want interest to play my grandfather, Daddy Ray, who was 103 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: the first feminist in my life, who taught all of 104 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: us girls how to hunt and fish and shoot and 105 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: drive and be self sufficient. He said, if a woman 106 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: knows how to do something, a man will respect you. 107 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: And that has been my mantra motto, my threat of 108 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: instant and I want to tell you it was. It 109 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: has been such a great partnership because he taught me 110 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: a lot. Yes, yes, yes, you know, because I had 111 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: wasn't some screenwriting scholarships because I wanted to enhance my 112 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: career not only as an actor, better writer and a director, 113 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: and I want a couple of grants and scholarships. And 114 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: he just made me a better writer. And I hope 115 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: you got to meet him. You got to meet him, 116 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: You already know him. You've got to talk to him 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: and find out what he's been doing, because let me 118 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: tell you He is just a wealth of knowledge and 119 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: will really assist people in writing, not only for blogs 120 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: or uh newspapers, magazine screenplays, novels. He went through a 121 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: great process and I learned, and I want to tell 122 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: you there's nothing better than finding someone who is generous 123 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: and sharing their guests. This is Ben Richburg. She's she's 124 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: talking about Richburg and Benny Richburg. Just the backup the story, 125 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: just in case people just came online. UM talent sitcom writer. 126 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: I made him on the Jamie Fox Show. Didn't even 127 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: know it. Walked in the writer's room and he welcomed 128 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: me with open arm, and he taught me because I 129 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: was just one of the confident guys and like like 130 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: Mr Greer saying, is that you think you know until 131 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: you work with an expert or somebody who understands the levels. 132 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: Myra brocka Kill was on that. Yeah, and you know 133 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: he started out with Fresh Prince for five years, the 134 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Martin Show for five years, and the Jamie Fox Show 135 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: for five years. So I just said, well, I know 136 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: you were considering some other writers, but Bennie, I think 137 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: you can do it. And when you talk to him, 138 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: he will have you Howard, because he said I can't 139 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: live pang down. I have to see. Yes, I know 140 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: you can do it. I've watched you write the show 141 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: for many characters, and out of some drama is humor 142 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: and so there's a lot of sad time. There's a 143 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: lot of humor in in my life story, there's a 144 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: lot of tragedy. But you will, you will have the beats. 145 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I think you can handle the beats of of something 146 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: that's tragic and comedic and satirical. I know you can 147 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: do it. And he didn't let me down. Let me 148 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: tell you people see this. He was so good that 149 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: Jay Farrell. When um are you here? Absolutely, I'm here, 150 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: Come on Lee Lee Ross of of Caller, who wrote 151 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: of some of the show's leg video games or Call 152 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: of Duty for Infinity would he designed a video game 153 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: for me? And the video game is for a family, 154 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: you know it's it's one of those for PlayStation four 155 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: and it's called shall Leon Shuffle And I miss this. 156 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: This seafood is master of martial arts and I teach 157 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: you my disciples to kill zombie rats. I'm hearing this 158 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: voice in the studio and it's Jay Sarah and all 159 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like oh, something hit me, his voice, 160 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: his manner, his performance. But I think I found my 161 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: Richard Pryor. And I ran out the door, stood in 162 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: the parking lot screaming the bit a beginning. You gotta 163 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: meet Jay Tayl. I think I heard Richard, but I 164 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: think we found him. I think I know he's going 165 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: to be a great Richard. And they met and they 166 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: read the scenes and they worked something, and Jay I said, Jay, 167 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: you gotta He says, I gotta do Richard for you. 168 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: And so Jay Sayl is gonna play Richard Pryor. He's out, 169 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: was gonna play my grandfather. Let me tell you all 170 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: because of the Beny. I'll just tell you that Jay Farrell, 171 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 1: you don't know who he is from a star of 172 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: Saturday Live, can do anybody voice, especially washing Oh. He 173 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: can knock. He's so good. He has over two hundred characterizations. 174 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: But when he didn't even do a character therization of Richard, 175 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: he basically channeled all everything that I told him about 176 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: Richard and what he read about and the screen play 177 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: us jumped off. And when he had certain body movements 178 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: and and facial expressions, my god, I'm not kidding. He's 179 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 1: gonna be nominated. He's gonna take it. He gonna he 180 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: gonna take it. He's gonna And if I can find 181 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: then it can help us find our Tamera Dobson, who 182 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: played with Cleopatrick Jones and you bring Stop Stop Our 183 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: Kareem Dojibar. I think we found him. He was going 184 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 1: to find a Freddie Prince. And then the most exciting 185 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: character was the agent John James. He was a very 186 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: game of as he was. He was the most powerful 187 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: agent at a p A in the industry. He had 188 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: me Camera, Richard Roundtree who was Shaft and I was 189 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: the case, Dave Martin and John Candy. He had all 190 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: of us who were basically being hot, bankable actors at 191 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: that time. I would love to have Ryan Reynolds play him. 192 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: He gots an extra thing happening here. We talked about 193 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: the Brown Sugar app We talked about the biopic of 194 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: your life. You got a movie coming out with Diane Keaton, 195 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: who's one of my favorite actresses. I love her, Yeah, 196 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: and and a series with Fox. Let get to that. 197 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: I want to go to them one at a time. 198 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Diane Keaton, and then we're gonna go 199 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: bless this Blessed the Mess on Fox in February, talk 200 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: about Diane Keaton's movie let me tell you we were 201 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: separated at birth. I'm not kidding. We are so funny 202 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: and crazy and wearing hats and just you know, but 203 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: we're very generous, very giving, and we both to drink 204 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: red wine with ice cubes in it. That drives people crazy. 205 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: But she's so funny. She gives more than one and 206 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: fifty percent. And that's what the actors that we just 207 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: give so much until we're exafted. And it was such 208 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: a great She always on my bucket list to work with. 209 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: She and Meryl Street and I want to I want 210 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: to direct Viola Davis. I mean, I've got a list. 211 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: Let me tell you're working with her. Sometimes you just 212 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: laugh so hard. You hamm a lot to Kidney on 213 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: this and she didn't made me laugh all damn day. 214 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: But she's so funny and so generous. It was great 215 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: to work with her, and Jackie Weaver and Real Pearlman 216 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: as well. Now bless the Mess on Fox, and that's 217 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: this mess. It takes like it's me and Lake Bell 218 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: and Dak Shepherd and Ed Bagley Jr. And Lake and 219 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: Dax leading New York broke been to disillusion driving back 220 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: to his aunt's farm in Nebraska. And they got to 221 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: come and deal with me. And they think they're gonna 222 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: bring some slick city mess. Come on now, I bring 223 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: my country behind to this character, which a lot of 224 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: people haven't seen unless they've come here been he's seen it. 225 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: Then he has seen deer fighting on the property, a mountain, 226 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: lions horses show up, there's for low turkey. That's all 227 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: kinds of He says, Yeah, she really lived out here 228 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: because it keeps my instincts shirt to live in a 229 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: place that so can be so dangerous. It scares some 230 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: of my friends, who are then blancos. I have to 231 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: walk them out to their car. But anyway, and I 232 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: got a single uncle, I gotta I've got my father 233 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: wanted would you learned? You know, maybe y'all want a 234 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: date or something like that. And then I met one 235 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: uncle at a reception at a book signing, and he said, well, 236 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: you know, do you have a lot of guns that 237 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: as well? Yeah, Stevens the gulls giving me a gun 238 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: at a breath the lawn. I got my gun out 239 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: of Miami Vice and you know, everyone giving me a 240 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: gun or something from the show. My grandfather gave me 241 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: his punting rifles thirty sixes. But I said, but don't 242 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: worry about my guns, just worry about my chainsaw. I 243 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: love you. Okay, here's you. I own the phone with 244 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: Pam Grier, the legendary Pam Grier. She has an app, 245 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: uh promoted through Bounce. It's called brown Sugar. She has 246 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: a biopick with my boy Binny rich Berg that's coming 247 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: out Rotten Tomatoes from Jay Farrell. Jay Farrell was in it. Uh. 248 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: Rotten Tomatoes has ranked her as the second greatest female 249 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: action hero and hero and film history. Who above you are? 250 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: They're saying, above you are? You? 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Of course 334 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: you know I'm big now, so I'm on Serious Exam 335 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: Podcast Radio Alexa. If you have that in your house, 336 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: you enable money making conversation. I start talk in your home. 337 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: By next guest, I'm excited to have him on the 338 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: phone his own whole. He's a super Bowl champion with 339 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: the New York Giants. You know, when once you want 340 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, you always super Bowl champion. You know, 341 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: without the wolves, not with a former, you are a 342 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: super Bowl champion. He's the founder of the LCR, which 343 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: is a digital platform that shares unique perspectives on social 344 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: and political issues. The LCR has gone a great attention 345 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: from the academic community regarding this ability to create significant 346 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: social change. He is a philanthropist and entrepreneur. He is 347 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: currently a vice president and a publicly traded risk management 348 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: firm where he specialized in managing in managing risk for 349 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: financial institutions and technology companies. Please welcome to money making Conversation. 350 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: Jeff Pope. How are you doing, sir? I'm doing. What 351 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: are you doing today? Pretty good? We're part of the 352 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: country and Mrs Pope were part of the country a 353 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: year in Philadelphia, Oh Philly, home of the last Super 354 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: Bowl champions. He's just like hanging around champions. I'm assuming 355 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: that's uh, that's your brand. Huh Yeah. I love I 356 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: love well, you know, I I love Taking a seller 357 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: from from New York through phill A down to d 358 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: C is one of my favorite rides I take. And 359 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: now something fairly a lot. And so are you based there? 360 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: For your for your entrepreneur, for your back for you 361 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing in your business life? Where are you 362 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: based in Philly now? So? Um, Philly was the last 363 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: team I played for, the Eagles, UM, and so when 364 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: I got hurt in two thousand and ten, I just 365 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: fell in love with the East Coast. I transferred to 366 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: Howard University. I played for New York for a while, 367 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: and I would always come back to d C to 368 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 1: train in the off season. So, UM being from Detroit 369 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: and it being around two thousand and ten when the 370 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: craft hit, Um, you know, the economy was hit hard, obviously, 371 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: probably harder in the Midwest and a lot of other areas, 372 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: I just knew I want to come back out to 373 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: the East Coast, right. So I mentioned several things in 374 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: your in your credits. First of all, congratulations on making 375 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: the transition from what won't consider an athlete until the 376 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: entrepreneural world. Because a lot a lot of people don't 377 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: see that happening. They don't understand how can that transition happen? 378 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: How were you able? Did you start uh as a 379 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: high schooler or in college? Did you have the entrepreneurial spirit? Then? 380 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: How did it? How did it develop for you? Mr Pope? Uh? 381 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: Well for me? Um you know, I grew up in 382 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: a single parent house, sold My mom and grandma raised me, 383 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: which I know it was similar to a lot of 384 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: us out there. And so, you know, growing up in Detroit, 385 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: a tough environment, tough community. You know, they did everything 386 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: they could right to kind of keep me on the 387 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: on the straight in their path. And so, um, I 388 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: had an opportunity to go to an all boys Jesuit 389 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: high school. UM, that really kind of laid the foundation 390 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: as far as like business and finance. And so when 391 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: I went to Eastern Mission University in a fourth athletic scholarship, 392 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: I really didn't even think about the NFL until I 393 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: was able to clock a four to forty in the 394 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: forty are dash. Um, and so from their NFL became 395 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: a reality. But I always knew, you know, four too far. 396 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: You just threw that out there like everybody just sprinting 397 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: just out there until I was able that you you 398 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: were fast. Now you just suddenly came up and clocked 399 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: for too far. Then why did that happen? And so 400 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: so I never ran track in high school, and uh, um, 401 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: you know I ended up somehow, I ended up talking 402 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: too much smack and ended up challenging another football player 403 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: who was a senior who happened to be the track star. Right, 404 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: he had all the records, right, And I mean I 405 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: beat him pretty pretty well in a foot race. This 406 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: was probably my sophomore. Here is my sophomore in high school. 407 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: And so then it was like, well, look, if he 408 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: got all the records and he just lost to you, 409 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: you should probably run track. So so I ran track 410 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: my last years in college, and I was able to 411 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: run some some pretty fast times. We still got a 412 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of state and meet records actually dating back to 413 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: two thousand two. But from there, um, that's when I 414 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: knew I was fast. Didn't hit me that I had 415 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: a leape speed until I was able to beat him 416 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: and this kid, you know, he had literally every record 417 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: in the city in the high school, right, So that 418 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: was pretty much the blueprint. Yeah. So so basically you're 419 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: a natural athlete. Can we say that it's probably my 420 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: Jamaican blood, But yeah, I've always get well, all the 421 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: sprinters come from Jamaica. Now all the sprinters come from Jamaica. 422 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: So so you know, I know thised near Bio said, 423 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: you overcame a lot of diversity, you know, growing up 424 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: and to be where you were at today, and we're 425 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 1: gonna have to have too breaks, So we're really getting 426 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: detail about what you're doing today. When you say adversity, 427 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: what exactly does that mean? Absolutely? So, I mean, you know, one, 428 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: I think you know, not enough people give young people 429 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: of color coming from tough environments enough credit right for 430 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: making it. But too you know, when I got to 431 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: Eastern Michigan, you know, I was playing a lot and 432 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: I had a devastating injury. I tored my quadra step 433 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: off the bone. Um, which is you know the quad 434 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: there's four obviously there's four parts of that month, and 435 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: that's the biggest muscle in your body, right, And so 436 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 1: you know you often hear about a C l s 437 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: and n c s. You don't really hear about quas 438 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: and so, um, they was they was prepared. When I 439 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: say day, I mean the coaching staff and the medical 440 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: staff at Eastern Michigan was pretty much prepared to hang 441 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: it up for me. You know what I mean? UM say, look, well, 442 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 1: on your scholarship, you'll never had a speed that you 443 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: once had. You probably won't even be able to play 444 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: competitive at this Division one level. We're ready to hang 445 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: it up for you, and and I wasn't ready to 446 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: hang it up. And so I found I finally found 447 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: a doctor that would approve my rehab um. And once 448 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: I came back, the biggest test for me was to 449 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: be able to come back from that injury and still 450 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: running four to forty right, And I was able. I 451 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: was able to do that. And I'm talking about rehabbing 452 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: for ten months, six hours a day, six days a week, right, um. 453 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: And so I came back from that injury, um and 454 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: still had the speed and despite being a starter, despite 455 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: playing as you can imagine, the relationship was just I mean, 456 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: it was just torn between me and them. And so 457 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: my high school coach said, look, I know a coach 458 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: at Howard University and they're actually putting defensive backs in 459 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I had a I had an underclassman 460 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: draft grade. But that coach, who was by the name 461 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: of Keith Gilmore, I forever be thankful, drove all the 462 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 1: way from d C to Detroit to look at me 463 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: and my mom in his face and said, look, I 464 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: take care of your kids. If he transferred to Howard, 465 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 1: I take care of your kid. And he did that, 466 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: and I transferred the Howard Um. You know it was 467 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: ever going to overcome that injury. And even though I 468 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: didn't get drafted one, I'm a Howard Bison, So you 469 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: can't lose with that, right, you know. I went on 470 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: went on to the NFL and played four years and 471 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: I got my pension before I got hurt again. So 472 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: I'm a man. I appreciate you, and uh Gatson is 473 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: a is a good uh person to have in my life. 474 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: You know. He tells me how great I am and 475 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: I sometimes don't understand it. But I just said, thank you. 476 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: Uh Now you're part of my family, Mr Pope. 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It was one of our screenings 542 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: at the movie Uh I think like a man, very 543 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: first movie we did. Um. He's an incredible TV and 544 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: film director, producing writer. He has directed television shows Check 545 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: this Out, Slow Down That when you see a lot 546 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: of people said direct stuff, Okay, this guy, Restlemates, Crazy, Empire, Power, 547 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: How to Get Away with Murder, The Flash which I love, 548 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: Blind Spot which I love Criminal Mind which I love, 549 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Being Mary Jane which I love, Arrow which I love, 550 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Castle Gray's Anatomy, The Vampire Diaries, Bones the Original which 551 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: I love. Currently directing c is all American. He has 552 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: produced movies like I said, I Think like a Man, 553 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: Think like a Man to stump the yard. That's when 554 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: I first discovered him way back when. So we can 555 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: play that game. Is currently director and EP director of 556 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: The c W. That means when your EP and your director, 557 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: that means you get to two checks to check you 558 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: to check man. Inspired of inspired by the life of 559 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: NFL player Spencer Passenger. Please work on the money making conversations. 560 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Rob Hardy, Hey, how you doing? Hey? Rob, how are 561 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: you doing? My friends? I'm doing good, man, I'm doing good. 562 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate first of all, thank you for coming on 563 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: my show. And uh, like I told everybody on the air, 564 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: uh you know, I mention one time and I first 565 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: screening when we did UH Think Like a Man, which 566 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: we went on to a huge success. But you you're 567 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: You're interesting. I'm glad they got you on the on 568 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: the on the phone, and right now on my show. 569 00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: And I want you to be a regular in my 570 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: life because you're one of those talents that flies on 571 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: the radar but just as busy as heck? Am I 572 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: saying that wrong? Or are you all everybody know about you? 573 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: And I'm just the last one to find out about you? 574 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: And now I don't know if everybody knows. But but 575 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, I've had a good run so far, so 576 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: so I can't complain. I can't complain. Well, just it's 577 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: really different because of social media and the way the 578 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: digital world works nowadays. Is that you always start It 579 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,719 Speaker 1: used to be the day where you know, the talent 580 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: was the star. Now executive producers are stars, writers or stars, 581 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: and directors or stars because people can follow you. How 582 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: is this that? How has that changed? Because you've seen 583 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: the change from stuff to yard to now? How has 584 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: that changed the way you present yourself? Or are you 585 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: all you communicate with your fans? Yeah? You know. I 586 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: think social media has played like a really big, you know, 587 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: part in in how a lot of directors and producers 588 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: are perceived. I think that when when I was coming up, 589 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: if you were Spike Lee or Robert Townson or John 590 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: Singleton or somebody like that, we knew you because you 591 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: were kind of like a celebrity and you did commercials 592 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: and people saw your face, but you didn't really see that. 593 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: In the TV world, you didn't know who directed your 594 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: favorite episode of whatever show it was, you know, Good 595 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: Times or Martin or some show. But now, because of 596 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: social media, you get a chance to follow people who 597 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: get to see behind the scenes. You get to see 598 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: the you know, directors, producers, um, you know, posing with 599 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: the cast, and it's it's just the most different thing 600 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: now because I think now, um, it's all about it's 601 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 1: all about the fact that we are um, you know, 602 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: more accessible than we used to be back in the day. 603 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: So that's that's really important because that's why I was 604 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: excited that you can't you you're you're on my show 605 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: because my show is about up entrepreneurship and entertainment, and 606 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: my show is about the business side and also in 607 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: discovering unique talents like you that just just have a 608 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 1: dominant voice. Because I look at your look at your 609 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: resume and you're not an urban director. You know you 610 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: you're you're crossing over. How's that nothing negative? I'm just 611 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: trying to how people understand how are you able to 612 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: do that? What in your resume is allowing you to 613 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: do you know, go from a Vampire Diaries to the 614 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: flash to Mary being Mary Jane. So how how are 615 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: you accomplishing that task? Well, you know, when when I 616 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: first started out, me and Will Packer were business partners 617 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: and we had our company, ran Force Films. You know, 618 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: all the movies that we did were kind of you know, 619 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: in the urban space socially, you know, movies movie starring us. 620 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: And when I got in the TV, I apprenticed on 621 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: E R. The hospital show that was going on. And 622 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: when I was doing that and I shadowed on that show, 623 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: that was the first television show that I did. And 624 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: so when that happened, it opened the door for other 625 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: shows like that, and so for all men on big networks, 626 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: um that might only have one or two you know, 627 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: people of color in the cast. And I was kind 628 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: of doing that for a while. And it was funny 629 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: because I think the first you know show I did 630 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: that actually had a predominantly black cast was The Game. 631 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: And when I first did that, some of my friends like, oh, 632 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: so you do TV now, and I was like, no, No, 633 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: I've been doing TV for like five years. You know. 634 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 1: It was in a different shows. It was Criminal Minds 635 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: or you know, another show like that. So I think 636 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: because I kind of started TV there, it opened me 637 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: up to do a whole lot of different things. You know, 638 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna get on you about this, you know 639 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: you you say er, you know a little hospital show? 640 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: What just one of the biggest hospital shows, drama shows 641 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 1: in the history of television. U creator what Johns Wales 642 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 1: created that show? Correct? He did? He did John Wells 643 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:06,839 Speaker 1: and huge everything from Shameless, Smith West Way, you know, uh, 644 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: Third Watch, that's all John Well Nothing like being connected, 645 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: Mr Hardy Okay, Okay, man, I'm just hey, I'm just man. 646 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,759 Speaker 1: You know, I go, well, you know that that but 647 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: but you know that's that's important because when people I 648 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: jokingly say that, but you know, that's how it is. Relationships. 649 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: Then in this business, what people think of you. And 650 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, when you're doing one job, you know you're 651 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: actually looking for your next job. You know it sounds crazy, 652 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: even though you have Laurel to here. You have to 653 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: realize that a plug can be pulled. You know that, 654 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: you have to realize that multiple strings of income is 655 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 1: important to your life, and then you have to make 656 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: these decisions. So when you're sitting around and looking at 657 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: these shows like like the Flash and I look at 658 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: which is totally different from Power, tell us how you 659 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: how do you? How do you do that? How you 660 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: the Flash? Power? How are you as a director? How 661 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: do you sit down and then conceptionalized how to move 662 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: forward with the way you direct those shows? Those two 663 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: different shows, you know, when you look at the Flash 664 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 1: and you know Power, they're actually both two superhero shows. 665 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: Like the Flashes. You know, a guy that's looking for 666 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: the people that killed his parents or killed his mom 667 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: in prison his dad, and he gets these powers, so 668 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 1: he put on the costume and goes out to fight 669 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: crime to solve the mystery. Power is a drug dealer 670 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 1: who's trying to go legit, so he wears the mask 671 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: of a legit guy while he's a drug dealer by night, 672 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: so he can change his stars. So he's trying to 673 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: be a superhero for his family, trying to change it up, 674 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 1: and he's fighting the bad guys for him, which is 675 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: the people stopping him from doing what he has to do. 676 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: And they all have, you know, themes that we can 677 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: relate to of wanting to prolong, wanting to be better, 678 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: wanting to look out for your family. I think that. 679 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: You know, as a storyteller, whenever you get you know, 680 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: make things relatable to all of us, you know, whether 681 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: you like superheroes or not. Then you win as as 682 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 1: a filmmaker because you make people care about the story. 683 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: That is amazing. It's the truth. It's absolutely truth. Like 684 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: one of my favorite series on Netflix is called Knockles 685 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: His Knuckles, and that show is really about parody. You know, 686 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: you have a guy, okay, how horrible he is, He's 687 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: still trying to do good for his family, but unfortunately 688 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: he does so many bad things to other people to 689 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: satisfy his personal gains. And when you look at when 690 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: you when you when you carve it down to that, 691 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: like you said, a superhero trying to do good in 692 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: this situation, drug dealer in other situations. He has powers 693 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: that are that outrageously fast, and so those things are 694 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: really how you say, you really just go to the 695 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: core of something. That's that's that's the parallels both of them, 696 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 1: and that's how you're able to make the transition. That's wow, 697 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: that's how my man, I'm gonna get a banner and 698 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna post that Rob, I'm gonna get your number. I 699 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: like you, man, I like you a lot. I'm a fan. 700 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: Could do lunch of dinner, you know, hook up. I 701 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: won't promote anything that you're associated with from now on. 702 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: I really am impressed with you as a person. I 703 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: really thank you for coming on my show, man, and 704 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:30,799 Speaker 1: just keep winning, my friend, just keep winning. I appreciate that. Man. 705 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: I pe you having me and listen. I just want 706 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: to give you a shout out for inspiring so many people. 707 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: I see you, I see your energy. So I'm looking 708 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: forward to UH for us to do some amazing things together. Awesome. 709 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from mar Sean McDonald 710 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: and money making conversations. Don't touch that down. Yeah, we 711 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: sort of stopped paying attention and wracked up a lot 712 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: of debt. Yeah, it was stressful. He blamed me for 713 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: my credit card debt, and I blamed him for building 714 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,319 Speaker 1: that man cave. It's awesome. 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And if she got your 754 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: flowers tomorrow, what do you think her reaction might be? Well, 755 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: you can times tend that when you send flowers from 756 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: the books. You know, the books were the flower folks 757 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: with farms located on the side of a volcano that 758 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: grow flowers as spectacular as she is. Books are cut 759 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: from farms and delivered fresh to her. So they last. 760 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: And you know every day she admires your flowers is 761 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: another day your rock star. So send her just because 762 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: flowers from the books next day. Delivery yep, next day, 763 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,319 Speaker 1: and get ready to be the most thoughtful man on earth. 764 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 1: Go to books dot com and enter hero for your 765 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: thoughtful guy discount. Yeahf at b o u q s 766 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: dot com and ed her hero books dot com. Hi 767 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: Rogan McDonald here. You know live and studio guests here, 768 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: So I love having guests who coming based in Atlanta. 769 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm assuming that's like in Los ange You hear that 770 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles you go really really each money main 771 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: conversation radio talk shows about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide 772 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: the consumer and business owner access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs, 773 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,839 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers day in turn, deliver information about 774 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,440 Speaker 1: career planning, motivation, financial literacy, and how to lead a 775 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: balance life. My next guest who's sitting who is seated 776 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: next to me as a master business strategist, serial entrepreneur, 777 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: Uh founder of Mobile Can. The annual Mobile Can Conference 778 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,320 Speaker 1: attracts hundreds of women and it's the premier business experience 779 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,799 Speaker 1: for female entrepreneurs and executives. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. 780 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: Dr Felicia Phillips, Thank you so much. Excited to be 781 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: here with you this morning. Thank you, first of all, 782 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: your articulate you got your hair right all right, now, 783 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:58,399 Speaker 1: this is Atlanta. You are an entrepreneur. You you top 784 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: dogs serial like that. I like that and that's the 785 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: compliment coming from you. Thank you so much. First of all, 786 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: thank you for coming. Let's talk about this event that's 787 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 1: coming up, to talk about it twice because I really 788 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: want to get the word out, and they're gonna talk 789 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 1: about you and just talk about being an entrepreneur, being 790 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: a female, being a female in the house. You know, 791 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: it's really interesting being a female and today. You know, 792 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: when if you just flashed back twenty years ago, you know, 793 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: trying to do what you're trying to do today, you 794 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 1: had to ask for permission in a way. I'm gonna 795 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: say that, let's just say, because the social media wasn't there, 796 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,720 Speaker 1: so well, let's permission you had. Maybe a radio station 797 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: might be permission there. Can you do mere favor over here? Oh? Yes, 798 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: social media hasn'tmpowered the female voice. Correct, you're correct, and 799 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. This 800 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: is my eight year So when you talk about no internet, 801 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: no social media, that was me when I started my 802 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: first business, and so a lot of that was knocking 803 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: on doors, making phone calls, showing up prepared right, doing, 804 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,759 Speaker 1: like say, what most people won't do in order to 805 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: be successful. What happened once social media was introduced. I'll 806 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 1: tell you how I really feel about that. I think 807 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: it's great. But I think what people forget about having 808 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: a website and having social media is that you have 809 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: the opportunity to promote yourself around the world, because they 810 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: tend to only promote where they are locally, right geographically 811 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: to their area w w W worldwide, you said it, 812 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: and people forget that so much. There is so much 813 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: opportunity right at our fingertips that we don't take advantage of. 814 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 1: And that's because we've gotten a little relaxed. Right. Um, 815 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: technology is somewhat dumbed us down, right, Okay, I remember 816 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: when I first started my businesses, all my numbers were 817 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: right here and right. I didn't have to look at 818 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: my phone. And that's the point. We don't try to 819 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,960 Speaker 1: do things because we depend on techn knowledge so much. Now, 820 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: how that relates the entrepreneurship is we try to google everything. 821 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: We try to look at okay, um, I'm gonna look 822 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: at what this person is doing online, and then we 823 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,560 Speaker 1: try to apply that to our own business. That can 824 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: be reckless sometimes because the vision that you have for 825 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 1: your business is for you, the vision that that person 826 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,319 Speaker 1: online has is for them. And what happens is sometimes 827 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,520 Speaker 1: you lose the clarity in your vision and purpose because 828 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: you're watching what somebody else is doing. And so what 829 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: we have to realize is that we need to hire people, 830 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,399 Speaker 1: We need to go to events like a mobil kN 831 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: that help us to concentrate on what we're doing and 832 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: what we're assigned to do specifically in our businesses, to 833 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: get those tools, those relationships and resources. And that's important. 834 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,959 Speaker 1: And the reason I say that because of the fact 835 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: that when I look at you first of all, focused 836 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: was almost three kg here just not I didn't just 837 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: think of this last night, absolutely okay, because it's not 838 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: it's not just a passion for you, this is a mission. 839 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: It is passion doesn't pay the bill. The fashion doesn't 840 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: pay the bills, and norther passion convince people to consistently 841 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: pay the bills. People jump overboard and um and they 842 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: want to be a part of But who you trying 843 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,319 Speaker 1: to read through? Those those those those bandwagon people. And 844 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: then you have a core people that consistently understand this 845 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: is what I'm doing and this is how I want 846 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 1: to work absolutely, So tell us about Mogol Khan. So 847 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: Mobile Khan. I've been doing conferences for the last ten 848 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: years to women, but in Atlanta, and I wanted to 849 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 1: do something specifically in the fourth quarter because people get 850 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: excited when it comes to the holidays, they lose focus 851 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. The next thing they know, it's the 852 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: first of the year. It's January, right, and they're scrambling, 853 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: and by the time they get a real plan in place, 854 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: it's March. We've already lost three months in the year. 855 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: What Mogol Khan designed to do is to give you 856 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: that plan now so that you can get your campaigns together, 857 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 1: you can get your marketing together, and really understand who 858 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 1: your target audience is, because we talk about that a lot. 859 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: But what happens is when you first start your business 860 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,760 Speaker 1: and then where you may be three to five years later, 861 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: maybe a totally different audience, and never stopped right there. 862 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: And what disappoints me is that people I don't want 863 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: to change because sometimes when your audience changed, there's traditional 864 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: work and some people don't see that one part of 865 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 1: the plan that's right, and so that's key. One of 866 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: the things that people have always I want to say 867 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 1: admired about me is that I'm willing to change gears. 868 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: And you know how to reinvent yourself? You don't, You 869 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:46,279 Speaker 1: don't important, I don't. I don't. You show me a 870 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: direction where money can be made. I'm reinventing myself in 871 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: that direction. And I think that and I and I'm fearless. 872 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: And so let's talk about fearlessness and fear because you're fearless, 873 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: but fear stops so many people. Great point, So let's 874 00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 1: talk about it because especially I see this with women. 875 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:07,759 Speaker 1: So I'll tell you the difference in what I see 876 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 1: with a man and what I see what the want. 877 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,200 Speaker 1: If there's a job and a man looks at all 878 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: of the qualification, if he has thirty percent of those 879 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 1: qualifications and he has the confidence to go after it, 880 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna do it. But what a woman will do 881 00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: is she'll look at it and she'll say, well, I 882 00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: only have and she'll walk away, and that job may 883 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,439 Speaker 1: have been perfect for her had she had the confidence 884 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,800 Speaker 1: to go after. What I tell people is we always 885 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: hear that fear is false ever disappearing real, right, But 886 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,320 Speaker 1: fear is also fuel because the fear is what wakes 887 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 1: me up every day to do what I do. Fear 888 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: makes me fearless because I know if I don't get up, 889 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,120 Speaker 1: if I don't show up every day consistently, I'm not 890 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna get paid. I'm not gonna be able to get 891 00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: that revenue, get that profit, increa some clients. I'm not 892 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: gonna be able to attract what I need to attract 893 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: for myself, my life and my business if I don't 894 00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: show up. And so what fear does for me is 895 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: I turned it into fuel and it makes me go 896 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: after those goals. And I think that's what we have 897 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 1: to look at. It's okay a little fear. You may 898 00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,320 Speaker 1: have a talk and you gotta get on stage and 899 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 1: feel a little fear. You may have a business, mean 900 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: you feel a little fear, use that for fuel to 901 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: really get you in there to get because your passion 902 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 1: can convince people, but your work is what keeps them right. 903 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,239 Speaker 1: You know, it's really funny that you say that about 904 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 1: different There's a difference between men and women when it 905 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:38,640 Speaker 1: comes to you know, as a as a guy that 906 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 1: has been I feel my ability to um, I want 907 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,400 Speaker 1: to say b S, but I would say my ability 908 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: to be able to talk my way into an opportunity, 909 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 1: even though I know I do. The resume doesn't match. 910 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: I don't care. And my wife's Chaire was gets mad 911 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,279 Speaker 1: at me because in a good way, because she knows 912 00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't know I do it. Why Why why are 913 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: we waiting around here? Let's go, Let's go what you 914 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 1: have done to Hey, Hey, let's go. Let's go and 915 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: I let's go mentality, And I've tried to instill that 916 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: my daughter. You know that you know understand that there 917 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: are no barriers. They could be self imposed barriers, but 918 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 1: there are no barriers. There should be racial barriers, there 919 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: should be no financial barriers, that be no gender barriers. 920 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,240 Speaker 1: And we put these barriers in front of us because 921 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,360 Speaker 1: of the fact that we feel that there should be 922 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 1: a limited It's somehow in our minds we feel because 923 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,720 Speaker 1: because I was remember when I when I go around 924 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,960 Speaker 1: successful people, you'll see their kids show up, Okay, their 925 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: kids to be on set or athletes. They'll bring their 926 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,240 Speaker 1: kids to the baseball park, and it guess what they're 927 00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,879 Speaker 1: comfortable with being around these environments because guess what they've 928 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 1: been told is all right? When in minority communities, we've 929 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 1: never been told anything. We've been told what we cannot do, 930 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: what we should not go, what we cannot say, and 931 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,839 Speaker 1: who we should represent, who represents our our beliefs should 932 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:04,719 Speaker 1: be successful. We just athletes and entertainers. Okay, scholars, you 933 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: can't even phantom that. Well, that means, that means four 934 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,240 Speaker 1: years of education, could be a doctor. That's eight years lawyers, 935 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,840 Speaker 1: eight years athlete. Okay, I can just graduated high school. 936 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: I can slam dunk. Oh my goodness, you said so much, 937 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: so much right there. So imagine when you talk about 938 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:25,280 Speaker 1: in the minority community, also talking about being a female 939 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: in the minority community. So now you got that double 940 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: whammy going on. And then you couple that with feet. Right, 941 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 1: So if every day somebody is telling you what you 942 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,359 Speaker 1: can't be, and I can remember growing up and I'll 943 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: tell you I'm a dad is girl. So my dad 944 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: was an entrepreneur and he would say, listen, if you 945 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,319 Speaker 1: show up and if you do what you're supposed to 946 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 1: do every day, which is keep your word. Keep your word. 947 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: That's what's missing. You gotta keep your word. You gotta 948 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: do it with integrity. Race, yes, can play a small 949 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: fact there, but people don't do business with you because 950 00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,400 Speaker 1: of race. They do it because of the quality of 951 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: work that you bring. And when you bring quality that 952 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,879 Speaker 1: cannot be refuted about a racist person will will eat 953 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: at your restaurant if the food is good. Yes, yes 954 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: they will. But you know the thing about it is 955 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: that I know it is this and I and I 956 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:27,319 Speaker 1: know that I know them African American male. I know 957 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: and I know that there is a salaries that can 958 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,680 Speaker 1: be tamed different. I know their opportunity, but I never 959 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 1: allowed it to stop me. I never I I would 960 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: never give it power. I would never give it power 961 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: to say that I'm not going to be who I 962 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: can be because I'm an African American. You know, I'm 963 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,760 Speaker 1: I came from in the city. Uh. I never wanted 964 00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: to empower that and give it the tool to win 965 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: over me. And so so when you go to an 966 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: event like Mogo Calm, I know we we've got another 967 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,879 Speaker 1: break and I don't want to push you to that break. 968 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: But just just just what, just what just the experience 969 00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: and why did you start it? So the experience is this. 970 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: We talked about this being a time for women, and 971 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: right now it is, and especially women of color, because 972 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 1: we have grown in the last five years six d 973 00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: in entrepreneurship, in creating businesses. Here's the thing you talked 974 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,120 Speaker 1: about the disparity in our community, which means we haven't 975 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 1: been exposed to having a business coach. We haven't been 976 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:34,160 Speaker 1: exposed to having platforms like this right. So what Mobile 977 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: Khan does over the three days is help you to 978 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,919 Speaker 1: understand what you don't know. Thank you for coming in, 979 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. I don't know. She's so 980 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: loud because I can't do anything for you know. I'm 981 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 1: gonna see if I can call my wife when I 982 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,680 Speaker 1: hang up to focus see if she happen. She she 983 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: always had planned in her life anyway. 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