1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: So after the bye week, what will be different? What's changed? Actually, 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: what do we think will change? Because no one is 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: telling us anything ahead of time and nor should they. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: Got Danny Sirequin, me Bird Gang. We've got ideas and 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: that's all they are. But what would we like to 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: see that? Maybe you can get the team out of 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: its two and five hole at Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine, 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: Buda Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: He's ad the ten half of five. He's it again? 15 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Some more Hurry magic. 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Griolo. 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: So I just had to do a double take. I 18 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: saw on Twitter Adam Schefter tweeting the first time, and 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: then closely followed by Ian Rappaport, Michael Carter traded, and 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: then I had to relook and go, oh wait, it's 21 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: the Jets cornerback Michael Carter sent to the Philadelphia Eagles. 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: We're in that time? Is that time? 23 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: I just had a moment thinking, what did I miss? 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 3: I haven't been on Twitter because I've been busy working 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: for like an hour. 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 1: What did I miss? Yeah, it's the h It's that 27 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: time of the season, if you will. The trade deadline 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: next Tuesday, and yeah, some teams making moves. We'll see 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: if the Cardinals decide to make a move. Here as 30 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: we get ready for week nine. Before we talk about 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: Week nine though, Danny, week eight, the bye week, did 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: you disconnect or was it sit in front of the 33 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: TV on the couch and just watch football all weekend long? 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 3: Both? I mean, I'm someone who I can enjoy watching 35 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: football while still disconnecting from work and Cardinals specifically. I've 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: that's been one of my personal goals, truthfully, Craig, is 37 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: to disconnect when I leave the building. So I got 38 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: pretty good about that. It was nice relaxing. I did 39 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: watch some football, but very low key. 40 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: I watched more college football than I did NFL football 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: because I did try to mentally disconnect after the first 42 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: seven weeks of the regular season, so not a lot 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: of NFL watching. Some highlights, a couple of articles read, 44 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: but other than that, it was you know what, out 45 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: of sight, out of mind. But here we are back, 46 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: ready to go as the Cardinals get ready to take 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys on Monday Night Football. Six point 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: fifteen is the kickoff two thirty. Pre game coverage begins 49 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. Now, when we talk 50 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: about getting back to work, Jonathan Gannon talked before the 51 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: bye about projects, homework, things that he wanted the coaches 52 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: and players to work on. We don't have a lot 53 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 1: of details, Danny and I don't think we were expecting 54 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: to get a lot of detail, but the overarching theme, 55 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: whether it was the head coach or the coordinators, were 56 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: minor changes, some tweaks, nothing drastic. In fact, I believe 57 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: JG said even things that maybe we don't even we 58 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: might not even be able to notice to the naked eye, 59 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: but little things that they believe talking about the coaches 60 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: could really put this team over the top, because yes, 61 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: these losses have been close, but no one cares about 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: how close you are they matter, or they care about 63 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: how if you're winning or not. And that's what this 64 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: team needs to get back to. 65 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: The importance though, of only losing by one score, is 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: that you you are close, even though it's not a 67 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 3: win like that. That does play a factor in it, 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: because that tells me it's really just the details. It's 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 3: not necessarily big picture items. Now during the bye week 70 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 3: in self scouting, guest, the coaching staff will look at 71 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 3: big picture things and then from there you go into 72 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: the finer details. And I thought, actually offensive coordinated your 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: Petsen had a pretty good answer about that Wednesday to 74 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 3: the media is he made a comment about when he 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: was watching film, he was saying, Okay, what are we 76 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: doing well? That we really should emphasize, what are we 77 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: not doing well that we shouldn't emphasize anymore, and what 78 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 3: are we not necessarily doing well? But I know that 79 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: we're close. And I asked him a follow up question 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 3: to further explain how you know when something isn't working 81 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: and when it's not working but you're close. You get 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 3: a pretty good answer about you know, are you getting 83 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 3: the look that you want? Are you just off by timing? 84 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 3: Are you just off by one piece being communicated better? 85 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: That tells you you're close if you're getting the looks 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: you want and you're not executing or you're not even 87 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: getting close to getting the kind of looks and timing 88 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: that you want, you're not doing it well and that's 89 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 3: not something you should emphasize moving forward. And on defense, 90 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 3: well not even going to bury lead unfortunately, and he 91 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: had a little smirk about it. Defensive corner nik Garalis 92 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 3: did not find one singular answer as to why there 93 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: is such a drop off in the fourth quarter defensively, 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: but he did say that he put a good look 95 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: towards it, and hopefully we see the tweaks that they 96 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: are going to make Monday night in Dallas. 97 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Let's start offensively. And I wonder how much of what 98 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: we heard from Petsing focused on the run game, because 99 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: this has been a season long topic, regardless of who's 100 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: been running the ball, who's been playing along the offensive line. 101 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,599 Speaker 1: And I get it, you're down your top two running backs. 102 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: Trey Benchin is eligible to return after the Dallas game. 103 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: You're down your top two blocking tight ends. But running 104 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: the ball has been such a staple over the first 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: two seasons Number two, last year, number two, and twenty 106 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: twenty three. As far as yards per carry, you're now 107 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: middle of the pack. You're almost a yard under what 108 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: you averaged last year. Now you say a yard not 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: that big a deal, but in the grand scheme of things. 110 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: It is because it adds up, and I don't have 111 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the answer. If I did, I would probably wouldn't be 112 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: sitting here with you in all honesty. But I wonder 113 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: if what Petsing said on Wednesday, we are getting the 114 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: looks and we just haven't been able to hit it yet. 115 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I wonder how much was the run game, because I 116 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 1: maintain the run game unlocks everything else within this. 117 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: Offense one hundred percent. It's not just the running backs, 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 3: and it's not just the offensive lineman. It's collective. Because 119 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 3: when this team had their top two running backs in 120 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 3: James Connor and Trey Benson to start the season, it 121 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: was a slow start. So that tells me that the 122 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 3: fact that now the Cardinals have been using running backs 123 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 3: four five and six, that's not just as necessarily on 124 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: running backs four five and six, that this run game 125 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: hasn't been going consistently enough, and that they haven't been 126 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 3: generating enough explosive plays. That's where the offensive line comes in, 127 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 3: and that's truthfully, what is more intriguing about this discrepancy 128 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: between last year's efficiency and this year is because it's 129 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 3: carryover from the offensive line. It is at this point, 130 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: now that everyone's healthy, it is the stame starting offensive 131 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 3: line that it was Week one in Buffalo. Nowt Cardinals 132 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: didn't have that pairing beyond the first half of Week one, 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: but nonetheless, this is clearly a capable group of players. 134 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: So what exactly is not working this year the way 135 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 3: that was last year? So that tells me you need 136 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 3: to have cleaner play, You need to be more disciplined. 137 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,119 Speaker 3: You need better communication between the offensive linemen as a group, 138 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: along with the quarterback and the running backs. And you 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: need running backs where even if they're not going to 140 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: be given a whole lot, you gotta find the gap 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: and you got to make some moves in space. 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: A lot of east west running. I would like to 143 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: see some more north south running, attacking the middle along 144 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: as long as there is something to attack there. And 145 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: it goes back to what you were saying about the 146 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: old line opening up those rushing lanes. And yes, you 147 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: don't have James Connor, you don't have Trey Benson, but 148 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: we've seen Amar de Mercado do it. We've seen Bam 149 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Knight do it, We've seen Michael Carter do it. And yes, 150 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: even though he's not on the active roster, he is 151 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Wouldn't surprise me if Michael Carter 152 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: wants again and gets elevated on game day to be 153 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: that third running back, because right now all you have 154 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: are two running backs on your fifty three man roster. 155 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: You're gonna need more than two to play against a 156 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: struggling Cowboys defense all across the board, certainly against the run. 157 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: You would hope that this would be the week for 158 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: you as an offense, regardless if who the quarterback is 159 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: going to be. But I keep going back to the 160 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: run game, the offensive line. That's where I focus on 161 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: as opposed to what is probably the low hanging fruit 162 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: in a larger topic as far as who's under center, 163 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: because going back to Week one, the run game, the 164 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: offensive line that just hasn't been in c in sync 165 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: at all through these first seven games. 166 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: Dallas is a really interesting opponent because they have a 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 3: really prolific offense that's averaging thirty one points a game, 168 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: and then they've got a defense that's allowing on average, 169 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 3: though they do have players out there on defense that's 170 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 3: giving up thirty two points per game, and usually it's 171 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 3: not that lopsided. This is actually a really great matchup 172 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: for the Cardinals coming out of the bye week, especially 173 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: because they're on a five game losing skid. So you 174 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: want a game where you can come out fast and 175 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 3: you can kind of get the ball rolling. Where you 176 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 3: and I differ for this game specifically, is I don't 177 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: think that's in the run game. You are still going 178 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 3: to be without Trey Benson. And you just placed Michael 179 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 3: Carter in the practice squad. So even if you elevate Carter, 180 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 3: that tells me you're rolling with Bam Night, which is fine. 181 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: Knight has shown some really good things. The reality is 182 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 3: the run game has not been going. And do I 183 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 3: realistically see that it's going to be going without Trey Benson, 184 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,599 Speaker 3: who still has to miss this game to miss the 185 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 3: minimum four for being on IR with a knee injury. 186 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: Not quite now. The good news is the last couple 187 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: of weeks, specifically, we've seen this passing game really take off. 188 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: Cardinals had two hundred and thirty six passing and three 189 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: hundred and twelve passing yard respectively in their last two games. 190 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,839 Speaker 3: And when you know that your defense is going to 191 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 3: be facing an offense and the Cowboys that's gonna put 192 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: points on the board. I expect this to be a shootout. 193 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: Your defense is gonna have to come and clutch right that, 194 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: They're gonna have to make moves. You're gonna have to 195 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 3: improve things in the fourth quarter, and you're gonna have 196 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: to have a much shorter field you're working with because 197 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 3: Dallas's kicker, Brandon Aubrey has an insane range. Right, this 198 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: isn't a situation where the Cowboys have got to get 199 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: past midfield before you're really talking about field goal range, 200 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 3: like he can nail sixty sixty five yarders. So to me, 201 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: how you win this game is going in a shootout 202 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 3: with the Cowboys. 203 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: And letting it rip. 204 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 3: Regardless of who was at quarterback. We've seen Jacoby Brissette 205 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 3: look poise in the pocket. He moved the chains well 206 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: the last two games he started, and we know very 207 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 3: well that Kyler Murray has the arm in the accuracy 208 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 3: to do the same thing, and he's more of a 209 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: threat with his legs. Even so, while I agree with 210 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: you big picture that the run game is important, the 211 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: run game is what sets everything up realistically right now 212 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: this week, how the Cardinals win is in the passing game. 213 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: It's a fair point because we haven't seen it to date, 214 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: so what makes you think you're going to see it 215 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: on Monday? And what we have seen in recent weeks, 216 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: to your point, is that downfield passing game. Eleven explosive 217 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: plays in the pass game meaning twenty or more yards 218 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: on the flip side, just three explosive run plays ten 219 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: or more yards, and two of the three were by 220 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette scrambling. Now, again, different quarterback play. You would 221 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: expect maybe a different look if Kyler is your quarterback. 222 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: But it's that explosive run game that's been lacking this season. 223 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: I was looking at some of the numbers. Cardinals right 224 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: now have the third fewest explosive run plays in the league. 225 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: A year ago they finished top five. So that's a 226 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: glaring difference from last year to this year. But at 227 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: the end of the day, what do you need to 228 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: do to get the win on Monday? And to your point, 229 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: it might be, Okay, we're going to drop back again. 230 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: I don't think forty plus pass attempts is sustainable, but 231 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: for one week against a particular opponent that struggles mightily 232 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: against the pass, maybe you do see a little bit 233 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: more of the dropbacks. Whether that's under center or out 234 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: of the shotgun. And I'll be honest, and I've been 235 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: saying this for a while now, when you're in the 236 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: midst of a losing streak, just get the win. I 237 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: don't care how it looks. We can dissect that after 238 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: the fact. Just on Monday night, Tuesday morning, you want 239 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: to feel good about Hey, it's now three and five, 240 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: going on the road to Seattle. Okay, well you can't. 241 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: Can't win games six to three or thirteen to ten 242 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: every week, or forty to thirty seven every week. But 243 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: just for one game, just get the w. 244 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: You mentioned the Cowboys not being good against the pass, Craig, 245 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 3: They're also not good against the run. They're not good 246 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: at third down conversions. They are giving up the most 247 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 3: first downs. They are not good in points a lot. 248 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 3: It's a very injured and a stroke uggling defense, to 249 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 3: say the least. So maybe this is a week where, yeah, 250 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with what I said of you want 251 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: to let it rip. Maybe this is a week where 252 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 3: you can build some momentum and some confidence in the 253 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: run game, though, and take advantage of a defense that's 254 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 3: got a lot of holes. 255 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: You you enjoyed saying all of that. Now this is 256 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: not on video, but just the audio wise, I could 257 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: I could sense you enjoyed saying all the statistics of 258 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. 259 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying the numbers that the Cardinals. 260 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 3: The Cardinals, who have fair enough have had their fair 261 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: share of struggles offensively, have every advantage still against the 262 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: thirty first defense, only above Cincinnati in pretty much every category. 263 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys were a much better team when someone used 264 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: to work there. 265 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I don't I think they went to 266 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 3: one playoff game when I was there, so I don't 267 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 3: know how true that is. 268 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's look at this Cardinals defense. By the way, 269 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: speaking of defense, one of the best defensive players that 270 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: ever wore the Arizona Cardinals uniform, Adrian Wilson. Want to 271 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: meet him? Want to hear from a dub The Big 272 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: Red Rage on the road taking their acts Paul calvec 273 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley and special guests Adrian Wilson on the road 274 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: starting this week on Thursday, new location Flanker Kitchen and 275 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: Sports Bar on the Great Lawn at State Farm Stadium. 276 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Time remains the same six pm. Can't make it out 277 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: to Flanker Kitchen and sports Bar. Go to a Arizona 278 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: Sports ninety eight point seven FM and listen Thursday at 279 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: six pm. Maybe a dub has some solutions for this defense. 280 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: I'll say this one of the solutions that I thought 281 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: that I was looking at over the bye week that 282 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: maybe could make this defense a little bit better or 283 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: going back to what it looked like earlier in the season. 284 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: Without knowing it, Nick Rolis on Wednesday completely dismissed the idea. 285 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: So Nick was asked about a returning Garrett Williams on 286 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 1: what the defense, what he could do versus what he 287 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: could I'm paraphrasing here what the absence of Garrett maybe 288 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: didn't allow him to do as far as a play caller, 289 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: And the exact phrase was, it hasn't hindered us. I 290 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: was looking at some of the numbers, and not that 291 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm saying Nick is wrong. He he's not. I just 292 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: think there is a little bit more confidence in having 293 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 1: Garrett Williams on the field that can shore up your 294 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: back end, and then maybe that can trickle down to 295 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: your pass rush. Because Russian coverage, coverage and rush they 296 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: are linked to one another. And you look at the numbers. 297 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Danny the Cardinal's best pass rush as far as pressure 298 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: rates and number of pressures on opposing quarterbacks came the 299 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: first two weeks. Ow on the counter arguments that is, well, 300 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: they were playing Spencer Ratler and Bryce Young. Okay, I 301 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: get it. But if you have a little bit more 302 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: confidence in Garrett Williams and whether he's the outside corner 303 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: or the slot, and you've got two other younger corners, 304 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: maybe you couldn't be as aggressive as a play color 305 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: because of the youth in the secondary and needing Buddha 306 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: Baker to be a little bit further away from the 307 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: ball because Jalen Thompson was playing in a different position. Again, 308 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: just me trying to figure out what is holding this 309 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: defense back, regardless of its first quarter or fourth quarter. 310 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 1: But I think Garrett Williams might be able to unlock 311 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: some things. 312 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: I kind of like all a little bit of all 313 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: the points made, With all due respects, I interpreted Rowllis's 314 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: answer with a little bit of coach speak, right of true, sure, 315 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: that's not going to change the play calling it, and 316 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: that could very well be true. But then to your point, 317 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 3: probably feel a lot more confident when you've got Garrett 318 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 3: Williams in there, who's one of the best nickel corners 319 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 3: in the league. Not to say that Janaln Thompson hasn't 320 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 3: done a fine job filling in, and that they've used 321 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: safety rabbit Taylor Demerson quite a bit more than they 322 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: did last year, finding a way to get him on 323 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 3: the field. But when you've got Williams out there, that 324 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 3: that's like having mentally another Buddha Baker. It's hard to replace. 325 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 3: Maybe physically right, you have somebody who can hold their own, 326 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: but mentally in all the things that Williams understands, getting 327 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 3: him back is a huge boost for this defense. Where 328 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 3: I will be really intrigued is during training camp, once 329 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 3: the Cardinals were without Sean Murphy bunting and Starling Thomas 330 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 3: out wide due to injury, we saw Williams playing outside 331 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 3: quite a bit. Now, that was just during training camp 332 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: and we didn't know what will Johnson could really produce 333 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 3: as a rookie, and a lot of time has passed 334 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 3: since then. I will be curious though, if there are 335 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 3: packages where Williams plays outside, which he did all in college. 336 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: You actually never played inside the slot at Syracuse, but 337 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 3: he hasn't played outside since becoming a cordinal and what 338 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: does that mean for the rotation? Right at the end 339 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 3: of the day, you want your best to love it 340 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: out there and then you wouldjust right to what you 341 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 3: need and the skill set of those players. So does 342 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 3: that include maybe more dime where you can keep rabbit 343 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: out on the field. And if Will Johnson's playing, well, 344 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 3: what does that mean for Max melt Like. I'm just 345 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 3: very curious to see outside of just the slot, how 346 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 3: they use Williams and how that has a trickle down 347 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: effect the end of the day. When you've got Garrett 348 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: Williams on the field, though, you are a better defense 349 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 3: if you go with just. 350 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: The four DB's Garrett and whether it's Max or Will 351 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: along with Buddha and jt Okay, Now you free up 352 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: another body is at an extra outside linebacker? Is that 353 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: Zevi and Collin see in the field a little bit more? Yes, 354 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: you can rush Baydlkinson drop into coverage. Because as I 355 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: can say bad, as bad as the numbers look for 356 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense, they look spectacular when you look at 357 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: the offense, in particular the playmakers, whether it's Ceedee Lamb, 358 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: George Pickens, Jake Ferguson, and then let's not forget about 359 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: the run game with Javonte Williams. So all of a sudden, 360 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: as a play caller on defense, how do you defend again, 361 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: just for this particular week, what's the best eleven to 362 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: defend a Cowboys team that right now is historically good 363 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 1: on offense. 364 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: It's got to be defending the middle of the field. 365 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 3: It's got to be those receivers first and foremost. You 366 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: always need to stop the run. But when you've got 367 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 3: an incredible receiving duo in Lamb and Pickens, and then 368 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: you throw in Ferguson, who's in the conversation with Trey 369 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 3: McBride as some of the top tight ends in the league, 370 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 3: that's that's a tria that can do some nasty work. 371 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 3: And while the Cardinals have already had to defend their 372 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: fair share of balanced offenses, especially recently with the Colts 373 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 3: and the Packers, to have two outside receivers as good 374 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 3: and as versatile as Pickens and Lamb are that's tough. 375 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 3: And when Rallis talked about it to the media Wednesday, 376 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: because I asked him about that specifically, said like, you 377 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 3: just have to perform on those stressed downs those moments 378 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 3: and something that we've heard Rawleis and Gannon talk about 379 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: a little this year when looking at the passing defense, 380 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: specifically in the numbers and how they're a little nuanced 381 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,239 Speaker 3: or inflated of Okay, well, the Cardinals have a lead 382 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 3: and the team's trying to come back and forth quarter, 383 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: they're going to pass the ball, right, So then the 384 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 3: passing defense isn't gonna look maybe as great as it 385 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: really played. And having nuanced and understanding teams are gonna 386 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,639 Speaker 3: make explosive plays. But when you're in those moments, if 387 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: you're set up for success, and if you are set 388 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 3: up in a moment to break up that pass or 389 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: have an interception, are you doing that right? That's where 390 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 3: the coaching staff really gets into the details of we 391 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 3: understand plays like this are gonna happen. Sometimes you're gonna 392 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: get beat, and the difference of you need to make 393 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,719 Speaker 3: that play that's not something that we're gonna allow moving forward. 394 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: So you know that this Cowboys offense is gonna put 395 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: points on the board. You know that Pickens and Lamb 396 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 3: and Ferguson are gonna make plays. You just have to 397 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: be so tight and so discipline on those stressed downs 398 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: and making sure you're not giving up those chunk plays 399 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. 400 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: Specifically, the question was asked about, Okay, sometimes do you 401 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: play off coverage, do you play press coverage? Keep everything 402 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: in front of you? And to your point, Danny, when 403 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: you're trailing in the fourth quarter as an opponent, yes, 404 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to get back in the game as quickly 405 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: as possible, so you're gonna throw more. And I think 406 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: that's what we've seen recently out of this Cardinals defense 407 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: as they're playing against the pass a lot more in 408 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: those final fifteen minutes. Can you make Dak Prescott uncomfortable? 409 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,479 Speaker 1: Maybe earlier in the game. Lorenzo Alexander brought it up 410 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: this week on Red Sea Report. Yes, this Cardinals defense 411 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: or this coaching staff, whether that's j g or Nick Rowlis, 412 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: they are strong believers in the four man rush. Can 413 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: you win with four? And in the fourth quarter we've 414 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: seen they haven't really been able to win with four, 415 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: So maybe earlier in the game, do you bring that 416 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 1: fifth or sixth guy just to put it in the 417 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: back of Deck's head and think, Okay, well they did 418 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. Do they do it later, and 419 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: that was part of Zo's thinking, Okay, yes, you're a 420 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: four man rush team, but give the quarterbacks something else 421 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: to think about, especially early in the game. So it's 422 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: still in the back of their mind late in the game, 423 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: even though maybe late in the game, no, we're just 424 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: going to rush four keep everything in front of us. 425 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: I like that idea. Prescott is a very good quarterback, 426 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 3: and when he's hot, he's hot. And when you look 427 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 3: at the numbers, what's interesting is this season, the three 428 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 3: games that Prescott has been sacked two or more times, 429 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: he's thrown at least one interception. That's a very good 430 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: offensive line of Dallas. That's always kind of been their 431 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 3: bread and butter is what they have focused on with 432 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 3: player development and free agency. They've only allowed ten sacks, 433 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: which is second or third fewest in the league. But 434 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: when you get a hand in press Scott's face, the 435 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: numbers tell you, Okay, yeah, he'll probably get his hell 436 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 3: a little bit, or he won't be making decisions that 437 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 3: are as smart or that he would have made had 438 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 3: he not already been knocked to the ground. Absolutely, you 439 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 3: got to disrupt the quarterback. 440 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Number one in completions, number three in passing yards tied 441 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: for third as far as passing touchdowns sixteen this season 442 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: for Dak Prescott. So yeah, I mean defensively, this is 443 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: as good of an opponent it is for this Cardinals 444 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: offense coming out of the by I don't know if 445 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: it's as good of an opponent offensively for the Cardinals defense. 446 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: Considering how well the Cowboys have been playing now, they 447 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: did not look good last week in Denver. In fact, 448 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: it was Dak's worst game of the season. So it 449 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: is that in the back of his mind that he 450 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: didn't play well. I mean it was his worst game 451 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: of the year. 452 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 3: Yes, Cowboys are also undefeated at home, and every home 453 00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: game they've put up more than forty points. So if 454 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 3: I'm in the Cardinals locker room, I'm not necessarily just 455 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 3: going based off last week. I'm looking at a larger 456 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 3: sample size. 457 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been impressive what the Cowboys have done, 458 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: certainly at at and T Stadium. One other note, defensively, 459 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: some of the numbers crunching over the bye week, again, 460 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: I had my own homework. I was again just sitting 461 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: around watching football trying to figure out, Hey, what if 462 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: Obviously the Garrett Williams what if potentially was squashed by 463 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. I want to see it because again 464 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Garrett Williams and what he 465 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: can do. Then you look at what this defense has 466 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: done in totality this season as far as number of 467 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: passes defensed, it is a very good team getting their 468 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: hands on Football's forty passes defense, six most in the league. 469 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: They only have four interceptions, though, and two of those 470 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: by Rabbit and that's it. None by a cornerback Okay 471 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: Well who leads the league in passes defense the Denver 472 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: with fifty one. They too have just four interceptions this season. Now, 473 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: they actually have a better pass rush and more successful 474 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: pass rush than the Cardinals. So I would like to 475 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: see as much as the Cardinals are getting their hands 476 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: on footballs, whether in the back end or Kalais Campbell 477 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: and company off the line of scrimmage, can you have 478 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: more takeaways and get that ball back in the hands 479 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: of your offense. Because obviously you get forty passes defense, 480 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: you're doing something right. So what's the trick. What's the 481 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: key to get that pass defense into a takeaway. 482 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: There have been moments where they have been so close 483 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 3: in Indianapolis Buddha Baker, it. 484 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: Was it was on his fingertips would have sealed the win. 485 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 3: If you're looking for something specific from this defense to smark, 486 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 3: something to get out of the hole they've dug themselves in, 487 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 3: it's generating more takeaways. They've done a nice job with 488 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: the pass breakups, which tells me that mentally, schematically right, 489 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: they are in the right place. They are doing the 490 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: right things. They're turning their head around, they're getting their 491 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 3: hands on the footballs. But you have to turn those 492 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 3: into takeaways. That's a winning statistics if you can get 493 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 3: your defense off the field while preventing your opponent from 494 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 3: finding the end zone or pum points on the board 495 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 3: in some fashion, get Kyler Murray in this offense out there, 496 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 3: and that's how you're going to generate success. Then we 497 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 3: go in a complimentary football and not every time that 498 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: the Cardinals have generated a turnover has the offense gone 499 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 3: out and done their part, But that that would be 500 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: something defensively, is what can we do better this second 501 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: half of the schedule that we didn't do a great 502 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,120 Speaker 3: job of or didn't do enough in the first half, 503 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 3: and it would be generating takeaways Dak. 504 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: Was intercepted twice last week. He had been interception free 505 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: of the previous four games. So again, it's not like 506 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: he doesn't throw the football and do tight coverage. So 507 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: if the opportunity is there for you defensively, yeah, instead 508 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: of batting the ball down, yes, you want in and complete, 509 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: but securing the football because yes, it's explosive plays and 510 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: it's takeaways. Those are the two main numbers, main statistics 511 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: that Jonathananon always looks at to determine whether you won 512 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: or lost. And sometimes it's been the explosive plays. Sometimes 513 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: it's been the takeaways, but you just haven't seen it 514 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: collectively in a single game. So again, nothing major, nothing 515 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: dramatic or drastic, just little things and fine tuning. Now again, 516 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 1: it's we need to see it, Danny, and so far 517 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: we haven't seen it, and it's frustrating. I get it 518 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: when you are so close, not just over those five 519 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: game losing streak, but the first two games as well, 520 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: when it took defensive stops for you to get those 521 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: wins in New Orleans and then against the Carolina Panthers. 522 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: So I'm confident in where this team can go. It's 523 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: just matter of you need to see it and can 524 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: they get there because you know that they've got the 525 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: talent in the room. For whatever reason, it's just it's 526 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:05,239 Speaker 1: just not happening right now. 527 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, the PG version of the saying of you got 528 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: to you know what, or get off the pot right like, 529 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 3: it's time to it's time to show up. We've heard 530 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 3: a lot of the execution and we're making tweaks and 531 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 3: all of those things, and now it's time to go 532 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 3: out and time to execute. The good news is turnovers 533 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: COmON bunches, So if the Cardinals defense can get that 534 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 3: rolling more times than not around the league usually snowballs 535 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 3: into having a couple. 536 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: Weeks with that. The other difference coming into this week's game, 537 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: we kind of alluded to it a couple of times, 538 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: but Kyla Murray's return or expected return this week, and 539 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: then how well he plays at at and T Stadium. 540 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: He has not lost in that building, high school, college 541 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: or pro. He's eight to zero as a starter, nine 542 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: to zero as a player. Two of those wins with 543 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, I believe five total touchdowns, no turnovers whatsoever. 544 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: So he's very comfortable in that building. And whether that 545 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: means anything or not. Who knows, because every team is 546 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: a different team. But there's got to be something about 547 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: going home for K one. 548 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: The numbers sure say so that he enjoys and playing 549 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: at home and plays very well. If Murray's able to 550 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: make us return after missing two games with the foot injury, 551 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 3: that's huge for this offense. And it's been a discussion 552 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: of fans and I understand because even though the Cardinals 553 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 3: didn't get the win with Brissett and the two games 554 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 3: he started, they moved the chains a lot better than 555 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: what we have seen earlier on in the offense. I'll 556 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 3: be curious if Murray gets a start, if we see 557 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 3: any sort of differences in terms of play calling or 558 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 3: play execution where Brissette really stays in the pocket until 559 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 3: that final second, right, he's not as mobile as Murray. 560 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,560 Speaker 3: I'll be curious if that's something where maybe we see 561 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 3: a little difference. The end of the day, though, like 562 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 3: this is the franchise quarterback, this is your starting quarterback. 563 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: When Murray is healthy enough to play, he will get 564 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: out there and he will play. 565 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: And you were out there during Tuesday's bonus practice as 566 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: we speak here Wednesday, players day off. Everything got moved 567 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: up a day. But what we saw during the open portion, 568 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: at least what I noticed online from you and from 569 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: Darren and from Zach, was that Kyler Murray was practicing, 570 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: which he has been, but it was who he was 571 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: throwing to during the open portion of practice that was 572 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: the major difference. 573 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 3: The starters were the previous two weeks, when Murray was 574 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 3: practicing in a limited fashion, he was throwing to the 575 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 3: practice squad receivers and it was set taking reps with 576 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 3: the ones, and King Slova is taking reps with the 577 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: tues Now, Tuesday was a bonus practice, so we did 578 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: not get any sort of injury reports. We don't know 579 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: if Murray the bonus practice, We don't know if he 580 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: was a full participant or limited. So we'll get that 581 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 3: first injury report Thursday, which is. 582 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: Really a Wednesday, but I'm not going to get into it. 583 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: It's just everything is different because it's a Monday game 584 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: day as opposed to a Sunday game day. 585 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: Everything pushed back a day. 586 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: Essentially. I know I'll see you before then, but for 587 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: the purposes of the show, Happy Halloween, Thank. 588 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: You, same to you. Do you get a lot of 589 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 3: kidsy neighborhood. 590 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: No, it's as Shelby has gotten older, the number of 591 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: kids has that's running the doorbell has has gotten lower. 592 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 3: So will you even buy candy or you guys just 593 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 3: wanting Yeah, because here's the thing. You're gonna buy candy 594 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 3: and no one's gonna get the candy. 595 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: And then what Craig The trick is if you if 596 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: your line of thinking, then you go out and buy 597 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: what you want sure, and then hope that no one. 598 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 3: Or do you buy what you don't like that way, 599 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 3: when all that candy is left over, you're not gonna 600 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 3: find yourself eating it. 601 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: It's a big dilemma. 602 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 3: I would buy what I like. 603 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: Personally I would too. Otherwise you can get short. Other ways, 604 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: you can just turn off all your lights and pretend 605 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: you're not home even though you are. Yeah, there you go, 606 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: so happy Halloween and enjoy the homecoming for yourself. 607 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm very excited. Thank you. I normally I go 608 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 3: home for the bye week. I did not this year, 609 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: just because you know, do I go home to Dallas 610 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 3: come back to Phoenix for four days about so? So 611 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 3: it ended up working out. I'm really glad that it's 612 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: worked out with the schedule and everyone helping out, so 613 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 3: I'll go home a little bit early and then I'll 614 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: fly back with the team after the game money. But 615 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: I'm I'm very excited. On a person of note, this 616 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 3: is the first time I will be home on Halloween 617 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 3: with my four year old nephew, so I'm really excited 618 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 3: to go trick or treating with him, and he's really 619 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 3: excited to show me his costume, and everyone's everyone's got 620 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: a costume to match his. So I'm very excited. 621 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: Will you let us in on the costume? We say, 622 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: wait until November I can. 623 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: I can share what it is. My nephew is an astronaut, 624 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 3: and growing up, my family never did grow costumes, Like truthfully, 625 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't ever recall seeing either of my 626 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 3: parents in a costume ever. But when you're the first 627 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 3: grandchild and the first nephew, you get whatever you want. 628 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 3: And every year my parents have dressed up with with 629 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 3: my nephew of whatever he wants. So he's an astronaut 630 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: and he's been learning about space and school, so he 631 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: assigned everyone a different planet from the Solar System, So 632 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 3: you are actually sitting across from Neptune herself Okay, congratulations, 633 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 3: it's been very occasional. I learned that Neptune has rings 634 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: when looking into costume accessory, so I'll make sure to 635 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: show you pictures of the whole solar system. Although we 636 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 3: would truthfully cease to exist because I'm pretty sure my 637 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 3: brother in law is going to have things he has 638 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 3: to take care of Friday night, and he's the Sun, 639 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 3: so none of us will really exist. 640 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: That's awesome without. 641 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 3: Him, but what can you do? 642 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: Everything revolves around the Sun or here on Cardinals cover two, 643 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: it revolves around Neptune, yes, exactly, well, enjoy it. Thank you, 644 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: and the Danny Surrek revenge game on Monday Night football. 645 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 3: You know what knock on wood? The one time I 646 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 3: went to a T ANDG Stadium as a Cardinals employee, 647 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 3: Cardinals one, and the one time the Cowboys came to 648 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 3: town to State Firm Stadium as a Cardinals employee Cardinals one. 649 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: So no pressure on me or anything, but I'm gonna 650 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 3: do my best to go three. 651 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: And oh we will speak it into existence here on 652 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: Cardinals cover to enjoy it, and again, happy Halloween to 653 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: you and to the solar system. 654 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 3: Much appreciated. Thank you. 655 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: On that note, we will put a lit on this 656 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hyundai, partner of 657 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our executive 658 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: producer Jim Mamahandro, our associate producer Cody Fincher for Danny 659 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: sirik aka Neptune, I'm Craig Rayal Loup. We'll talk to 660 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two