1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane. 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Never told your production of Higher Radio. Okay, Annie, I 3 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: really wanted to ask you this on the last episode, 4 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: and I forgot and I was excited about the movies 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: because you know, we're talking about all the legends. But 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: have you ever gone on any of the ghost tours 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: that are offered and or have you gone on your 8 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: own adventure in an where they're supposed to be else 9 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: booklore or a legend or a haunt on your own? Yes, 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: yes to all, yes, yes, someone who likes her I 11 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: have done a lot of ghost tours. Um like Savannah 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: and Louisiana are coming to mind, because those are kind 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: of big lots of ghost stories and Laura around those areas. 14 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: I've done that. I think I did some when I 15 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: was in Europe and one when I was in a 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: cave system in your and that's probably the most afraid 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: I've ever been, but I think had more to do 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: with the caves and lessen. And then, like I said, 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I I do like scary things, so I have I 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: have a friend Katie who's been on the show, and 21 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: she also likes scary things, and I think we build 22 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: each other up. Like I think sometimes where nothing is happening, 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: we both convinced each other something is happening. So we're 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: convinced we've seen a ghost, even though like not even 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: sure I believe ghost. Sorryal, but like when I was 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: a kid, we convinced each other we've seen this ghost. 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: We went like we convinced ourselves there's all kinds of 28 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: haunted stuff in our woods, and we would go and 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: investigate and pick up clues and find like a turtle, 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: what's blood on it? Ghost? Things like that with blood. 31 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: Oh the turtle shell had blood on it. I still 32 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: haven't freaked me out. And then we found a mailbox 33 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: that was buried and it just had these business cards 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: that said do as I say and not as I do. 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, this is a murderer. Things like that, 36 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: and then I definitely there were some urban leugends around 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: where I grew up, and one most of them just 38 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: involved like don't go into Dawsonville Forest at night, but 39 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: there was one where you would go. Probably a lot 40 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: of people have heard this because I think like any 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: town that has the right hill for this has tried it. 42 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: But it was like you would go and park on 43 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: this hill and put yourself in neutral and it would 44 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: pull you upboard or something. And there's a scientific reason 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: for why that works, but of course there's also like 46 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: ghost stories around why it works. So I did that once, 47 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: and I mean it was pretty weird, but I didn't 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: really scare me. I was just like, yeah, So I 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: don't typically do like the savantage ward where they just 50 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: carry you, know, you ride in the horse cart and 51 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: they'll tell you about buildings. I didn't do that. Have 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: I done those? No, I've never done those because I'm like, 53 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: it's just getting on a horse and looking at buildings, 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: which is nice, but I'm like, that's not a thing 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: I want. Because I for the longest time devoured every 56 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: episode of ghost Hunter. Oh yeah uh, And I would 57 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: watch all those and it was hilarious because like every 58 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: time anything scary happened, there was nothing. You could barely 59 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: see anything, and I was like, what you're supposed to 60 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: look at? I don't understand the investigation party you're staying. 61 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: So I really was like, I can do this. Let 62 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: me do this. And then like there was another one 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: I can't remember the name of the show. I loved 64 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: him and he would actually travel around the world, but 65 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: it would just be like finding that. So if they 66 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: would do uh, you know, the whole finding the jetty 67 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: and the force in China. I know he visited the 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: Suicide Forest in Japan for a while and like did 69 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: those things and super eerie things. But of course the 70 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: night vision stuff maybe even every year still let me see. 71 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: So I was like, why why am I watching this? 72 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: But you know that intensity. So I was bound and determined, 73 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: like I want to go to these things. So for 74 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: my birthday, two of my good friends, I decided to 75 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: purchase Ghost Toward essentially a ghost walk which happened at 76 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: night near Halloween because it was near my birthday, so 77 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: during the October September time. And it's in Roswell, Georgia. 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: So for those of you who do not know the 79 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: area very well, Roswell, Georgia is one of the small 80 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: mill towns that actually never burned down during the Civil 81 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: War when Sherman marched through it was salvage, so the 82 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: mills still exist and the older buildings still exists. A 83 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: lot more history there than pretty much all of Georgia 84 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: because it was burned down sadly enough. Don't get me wrong, 85 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: it happened, it had happened, but all of those to say, 86 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: we don't have a lot of historical things, and the 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: mills of Roswell remains, so of course we get a 88 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,559 Speaker 1: good amount of tails come from that area, which I love. 89 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: So we did a whole tour and I don't know, 90 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: I don't think this woman was an actress, Like she 91 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: was definitely just like dry talking about whatever is happening. 92 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: So she was a historian, but she was also very 93 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: into the ghost world. So she would take us on 94 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night, not middle of the night, 95 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: I guess, like e a p m. Seven seven a 96 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: pm when it was super dark, got her flashlights. We 97 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: had to have our flashlights, and we toured around Roswell 98 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: and at one point, like we went by the mills 99 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: and she told the story of a young boy running 100 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: out the door and her and her crew witnessed it. 101 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: Of course, all of these different tales. And at one 102 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: point we were at a I want to say, it's 103 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: a some kind of antique store, so it was preserved 104 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: and antiques are there and you can see them in 105 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: the building, and she's pointing her flashlight up, which was 106 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: a gigantic flashlight it starts flickering and doing the flashing, 107 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: and it like she kept hitting it, and she genuinely 108 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: seemed annoyed, but she wasn't like associating it. It's a 109 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,799 Speaker 1: ghost story that she just did this to the point 110 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: that my friend and I looked at each other and 111 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: started backing away and looking out at the windows because 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: she was talking about seeing an old man in the 113 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: window whatever whatnot. And she was like, well, I guess 114 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: somebody need new batteries. And then we talked to for 115 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: a minute and then walked away, and the the flashlight 116 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: started working again, to the point that someone was coming up, 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: walking up on us, and she thought she knew them, 118 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: so she flashed. She pointed the flash at it and 119 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: using at him, and it turned out to be a cop, 120 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: and he got very angry and yelled at the other 121 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: scary part of the tour, like our person was about 122 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: to be arrested. But like she did all of that. 123 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: So for a few minutes, I was like, did we 124 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: were worried I encounter a ghost or was she just 125 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: like an actress? I don't know, I don't know. So 126 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: I did that one, and then there was a whole 127 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: legend that happens at the University of Georgia. Of course, 128 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, you have to have tons of legends at 129 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: your schools, and it's always someone who died by suicide 130 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: was not found for days later. And yes, I know 131 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: they did because we did a comparison. But there was 132 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: one because there, at one point in time, there was 133 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: a building and I never understood this, and when I 134 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 1: see anything like this anywhere, because I've seen a couple, 135 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: I get really freaked out. There was a stairwell that 136 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: just went to a wall and that was the end 137 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: of it, and everybody's like, what is this? And so 138 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: the story was told that it used to be a dormitory. 139 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: An exchange student was there. He had hanged himself and 140 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: because everybody was on vacation, no one saw him. But 141 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: of course his corpse smelled up the place, so they 142 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: couldn't do anything about it. So they just sealed it off. 143 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: And that's the legend of that because no one could 144 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: find the entrance. And and I've been there because we 145 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: were like what is this? And so of course we 146 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: had that and we try to find the spirit there. 147 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: Find that spirit though, good, I guess. So that reminds 148 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: me of when we did our episode on the Winchester House, 149 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: that's that feels very like stor to nowhere. But we 150 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: were all like, why does this exist? What is this? 151 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: It's probably something very simple, probably, I mean to be honest. 152 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: They're like, is this and it was cheaper to do 153 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: this because it's damaged? Okay, fine, yeah, fine, stories I 154 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: did go to I went to the Stanley Hotel, which 155 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: is what the Shining is based on. I went during 156 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: July because it's only open, just like in the movie, 157 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: the snows get so bad you can only get there 158 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,559 Speaker 1: in July, I think. Um. And it was really really 159 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 1: funny because we did a tour of it and the 160 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: very kind tour woman went out of her way to 161 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: just be like, there are no mean ghosts here, only 162 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: nice ghost I don't know what Stephen King, I don't 163 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: know what happened to him that night. I think he 164 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: was just stressed. But they are only nice ghosts. They 165 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: just are children. They like candy. You just I don't know. 166 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: And it was so funny because they kept and I 167 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: get why, because they were like, we want you to 168 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,959 Speaker 1: have a good they have to know that. Like everyone 169 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: there though shining, and like one person is like hotels 170 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: and people like there's the attic. Some part of the 171 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: movie is based on it and it has read just 172 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: people keep writing red rum on it. And she was 173 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: so annoyed. She was like, it's not like that at all. 174 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: Stop be smart, I would go. It was very very cute, honestly. 175 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: All right. So all of that is a lead into 176 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: our part two on women in urban legends from all 177 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: around the world. If you haven't listened to part one 178 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: and go check that one out. And just a really 179 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 1: brief repeat of our disclaimer. There will be some gruesomeness 180 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: we've already touched on some so apologies. Nothing too in 181 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: depth though, and also, as we said in the last one, 182 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: we tried to get the best sources we could. But 183 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: these are urban legends, so by nature it's hard to 184 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: find like proof, and in fact it purposely almost doesn't 185 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: exist because they're an urban legend. It's just the story 186 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: people will repeat over and over, usually because of some 187 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: morality tale or some lesson some anxietal fear that we're 188 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: having is anxietal a word. I just made it one 189 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: um in her in our society, so you know that 190 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: being said, all of these are just I mean mostly 191 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: they're just stories that we tell and they do like 192 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: scars and that's fun. But you know a lot of 193 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: facts being here. Not too many facts now, yes, um. 194 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: And also we've done a bunch of past episodes related 195 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: to lots of stuff we're talking about. We shouted those 196 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: out in part one. You want to listen to more 197 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: and you haven't heard those, go check them out because 198 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: we we love these kinds of things and we've talked 199 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: about it a lot. So all right, So I actually 200 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: this one is an interesting one, um, But I wanted 201 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: to include it because one of my favorite things about 202 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: urban legends, and we talked about in the last episode 203 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: are these like rules are things you can do to 204 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: protect yourself or bring favor or whatever it is. I 205 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: don't know why, but there's something about that that I 206 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: find really interesting, especially as we've said, I don't believe 207 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 1: in them, but I still don't want to mess with it. 208 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: So I just find that it's such an interesting piece 209 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: of human nature. So we're talking about the Mistress of 210 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 1: bur Mountain, and I did have a lot of trouble 211 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: hunting down info in English for this one. Even though 212 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: there are some fairy tales that you can find in Russian, 213 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: but I did want to include it because it has 214 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: a lot of contradictions and superstitions around it. The Mistress 215 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: of the Copper Mountain, also known as the Malachite Maid, 216 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: or also a lot of times referred to as the 217 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: ancestor a parallel of the ASoft Girl, is a mountain 218 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: spirit frequently associated with the Earl Mountains. The Copper Mountain 219 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: is the oldest mine in the Earl Mountains, and this 220 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: mistress is both beautiful protector and demonic punisher. Yes. In 221 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: Slavic mythology, she is described as an extremely attractive young 222 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: woman with green eyes, a lizard crown, and a malachite dress. 223 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: Jewels and lizards feature very often in her story. In 224 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: some versions, she's got like an army of lizards that 225 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: does her bidding swards. What is without lizards? I know, people, 226 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: a lizard apparely does a thing. Huh it is? I 227 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: can't wait till you watch silent anyway, So this this 228 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: mistress is viewed as something like a saint for male 229 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: miners and a protector of mountain treasures. Treasures she may 230 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: allow the mining of or not, depending on a lot 231 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: of moral judgments. She'll make the Mistress did not allow 232 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: for other women in her domain. Men who longed for 233 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: her patronage were not to marry. She appreciated kindness, goodness, 234 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: and skilled craftsmanship and would reward all of those things. 235 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: But on the other hand, she punished those that did 236 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: not adhere to her rules and were unkind, and she 237 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: would punish them with either loss of luck or wealth, 238 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: or even death, even death. Children were told that making 239 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: any loud noise near the mountains would incur the Mistress's 240 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: wrath because she didn't like loud noises, which I find 241 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: funny because that's another contradiction because I feel like mining 242 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: can get quite loud. Right. She quote brings woe for 243 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: a bad man, which, yeah, we talked about. That's a 244 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: recurring theme and a lot of these about it. Yeah, 245 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: that's true. In pavel, Baso first published The Malachite Box, 246 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: which was a series of fairy tales, and one of 247 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: them featured the Mistress of the Copper Mountain, a tale 248 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 1: Baso had grown up hearing. He went on to include 249 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: her and several other stories, and he claimed that her 250 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: story was a sign that miners just missed women, and 251 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: then she represented wealth and beauty. Many men saw after 252 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: a partner. There's also an interesting essay because there's been 253 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: some research done on this legend. A lot of it 254 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: went over my head because i I'm not familiar, super 255 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: familiar with Russian culture, but there's been some research that 256 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:52,359 Speaker 1: she she represented like Western beauty specifically, which was interesting. 257 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: The Earl Mountains do you have a long history of 258 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: being central to that region's industry, whether it was the 259 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: mining of jewels or later materials for the military. And 260 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: it makes sense that this story really took off, that 261 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: it took root and solidified itself in the national psyche, 262 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: that men working in the minds would hold on to 263 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: this idea of a beautiful woman who would keep them 264 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: safe if they were good and punish the bad, which 265 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you would never think was you mining, It 266 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: was dangerous. Many miners died due to the conditions. Some 267 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: of you even speculated that workers saw her as a 268 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: defender for their rights, even in like the USSR and 269 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: times like that. Something she is an embodiment of Christian values. 270 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: Others think that she has undeniably pagan roots. According to 271 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 1: a paper written by Mark Lipovetski, she represents three Freudian 272 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: ideas death drive because that's where she lives. Sex drive, 273 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: men's desire for her, and castration anxiety are a loss 274 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: of power. So again, there's just a lot going on 275 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: in this one kind of seemingly simple story, but there 276 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: are reasons these stories are created and get told over 277 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: and over and over again. Right, that's interesting. I like 278 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: it though, mm hmmmm. It was really fascinating read and 279 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: it made me want to look more into the whole 280 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: history of these mountains. And I was like, this is 281 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: a different podcast you've got here, but I was looking 282 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: at like old mining charts. Of course you did, um did. 283 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about La dam lunch, y'all. 284 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm struggling with the French and I really want to 285 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: make it Spanish, so I apologize beforehand. Um. And she 286 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: is also known as the Woman in White, and yes, 287 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: there are several variations, as we've already talked about, uh 288 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: this lore and it exists throughout different cultures, but for 289 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: right now, we're talking about the French lady and actually 290 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: within French culture, but there are several versions of the 291 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: Woman in White as well. But there is a differentiation 292 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: between Woman in White and laydown Blanche. But as with 293 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: most folklores and legends. Uh, there are a lot of 294 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: crossovers and variations, So apologies in advance if you think 295 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: that we have messed it all up. But this is 296 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: what we saw, so this is what we're going to 297 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: talk about. But for this one, the don blanche are 298 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: typically seen on bridges or by bodies of waters. And 299 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: then there are some versions that also say they reside 300 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: by caves, caverns, or ravines, so good to know that too, um, 301 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: and they are dressed all in white and it's in 302 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: these locations much like our ferry vampires that we mentioned before. 303 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: They also love to dance. Dancing is a big portion 304 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: to this, but in this instance it isn't a way 305 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: to put you in a trance. But if you refuse 306 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: her or you try to stop before she wants to stop, 307 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: she's going to throw you into the water and drown you, 308 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: or have an animal coming and assist to make them 309 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: eat you. Okay, okay, so just just dance. Okay, you're 310 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: just gonna need to dance. But where did they come from? Well, yes, 311 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: this is a great question because unlike many of the 312 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: other legends, we don't have much of a backstory for 313 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: the dumb blanche. They don't really have a really origin um. 314 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: We don't know if he was burned by a lover 315 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: or she was locked away from attending a ball because 316 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: this is what I'm imagining, say, she loves dance, and 317 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: unlike the other lady in white stories in France, which 318 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: apparently typically has the tragedy of an unfaithful husband and 319 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,439 Speaker 1: the death of their children, which causes her to lash 320 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 1: out against other men and children, which is what this 321 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: lady in white does in France. They she goes after 322 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: and may cause an accident or some something for them 323 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: to get hurt or die. We don't have that same 324 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: backstory for this specific folklore. And they typically don't have 325 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: a preference in gender and just likes dancing and according 326 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: to one side, is complicated dacy. So I don't know, 327 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: just like you need to know ball room dance or salsa. 328 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: I don't think you can break out with an eighties 329 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: Roger rabbit dance. I would be great at that though, 330 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: But and you have to keep going until she is satisfied. 331 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: And one of the best known dums is La Dame 332 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: de Prickney, who actually, y'all, my friends, is bad. I 333 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: just said y'all. So I feel like there's a reference 334 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: to how bad it is who actually likes to haunt 335 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: streets and not necessarily bridges. And according to one guide 336 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 1: about ghost travels, and I want to go to this 337 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: by the way, it states that quote, she has no 338 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: backstory and no history, but somehow a legend began of 339 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: her appearing on what is present day russ Saint Quentin 340 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: Bayou in the northwest of France, and that allegedly she 341 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: would greet those who would attempt to pass through the 342 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: Narrabra ravine with an extended hand, and it accepted, she 343 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 1: would dance several rounds of the most elaborate dances, keeping 344 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: the human for extensive periods of time, before eventually letting 345 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: her partner go. If it refused, however, she would pounce 346 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: onto her victim before throwing him or her into the 347 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: ditch filled with briars and thorns. Right, So it's a 348 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: very interesting kind of legend with no real backstory other 349 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: than they are the beautiful version of a troll out 350 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: of bridge, I guess. And instead of answering the riddles three, 351 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: you have to dance elaborate dances. So I guess we're 352 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to figure some of those things out. So 353 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: also while we're talking about women in specific colors, where 354 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: you can talk a little bit about the Lady in 355 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: Red just for frenzies. Um, yes, there are those legends 356 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: with the lady in Red, and I believe we've mentioned 357 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: her in our episode in the Power of Red, like 358 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: just kind of the whole stereotype and what it often 359 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: is in legends, except there's a version, and it's the 360 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: typical version. There's no real like area that they haunt necessarily, 361 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: but if you go there's lists on lists on the list, 362 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: and there's a lot in the US that I've noticed, 363 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: um that there are either a jilted lover or a 364 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: prostitute who was killed in a fit of passion, or 365 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: sometimes just a vain woman in red, which we've heard 366 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: that concept of like oh, she looks she's looking at herself, 367 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: the red lipstick type of and then when she appears, 368 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: she's either dressed all in scarlet or in a blood 369 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: red dress, or she's covered in blood sometimes and she 370 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: that's what based the red right, and it's typically the 371 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: ghost who appears throughout different cultures, but not necessarily do 372 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: anything delicious like there have never been any real tales 373 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: of them doing anything harmful, but just likes to haunt 374 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: specific places like again hotels and theaters. Yeah, yeah, I 375 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: looked into that one. And I looked into the Lady 376 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: in White based on because that's the first episode of Supernatural, 377 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: right is the Lady White White? Yeah? And I what 378 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: I found basically was a bunch of like very specific, 379 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: unverified stories about checkers or like seeing them on the road, 380 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: not even necessary checkers, but like seeing them by the 381 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: side of the road. And that's very common actually in 382 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: a lot of urban legends are just ghost stories. Yeah. 383 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: So that's pretty much all I could find as well. 384 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: But again, listeners, if you've got like a specific story 385 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: or something you want to add, please list right. It 386 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: seems like the Lady in Red is nicer than the 387 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: Lady in White, so maybe we would rather see the 388 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: Lady in Red, which is not so much the Lady 389 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: in white. She will make you do some things, She's sad, 390 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: She's gonna make you feel feel a certain way about it, 391 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: all right, So I wanted to talk about the Nari 392 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: Fun or Nary Fun apologies in advance. Um, we did 393 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: want to cover things from all around the world. But 394 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: that does mean the pronunciation might not be there. And 395 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: I tried to look up the pronunciation for this and 396 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: I could not track it down. And a lot of 397 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: this story was hard to track down as well. But 398 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: I did want to talk about it because when I 399 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: was reading about it just immediately caught my attention. So 400 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: the nary fahn are the macaifon. It's the type of 401 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 1: tree in Buddhist mythology that grows fruit shaped like young women. 402 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: They sprout from their heads and grow from there. And 403 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: this tree grows in the mythical forest at the Hima Faun, 404 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: where local men cut them off and eat them. The 405 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: nary faun also show up in the vest Centaur Jataka, 406 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: planted around the place where the body Satva vest Centaura meditated. 407 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: Sorry again trying the best good win and one version 408 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: of the tail. The Buddhist god Indra had a home 409 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: at the edge of the forest with his wife vest 410 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: Centara and their two children. The Centara couldn't enter the 411 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: forest without being in danger of horrifying male creatures, or 412 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: in some versions of the story, just lustful men who 413 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: had acquired powers by meditating. But we're still like lustful men, 414 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: which I thought was a very funny and terrifying commentary 415 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: of men are just monsters in this case okay um 416 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: and so to protect her injured, planted twelve nary fund 417 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: trees that would grow fruit that looked like his wife 418 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: so that she could be safe while picking fruit. The 419 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: idea being the monster's foreman would pick the fruit and 420 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: take it home, thinking it was wes Centura and leaving 421 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: the real Vsentara alone. But they would take the fruit home, 422 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: have sex with the fruit, and consequently fall into an 423 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: enchanted sleep for four months and lose their powers. Over 424 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: the years, there have been a few news stories of 425 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: the purported discovery of the trees um that grew fruits 426 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: shaped like women. You can buy a lot of markets 427 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: around their sell I mean generally fake, but yeah, you 428 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,160 Speaker 1: can buy buy uh kind of like carvings or even fruit. 429 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: There are a few trees that are rumored to bean 430 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: eary Fund and several hoaxes around that. Uh. Nary fun 431 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: are very prevalent in Thai culture. Yeah, they appear in 432 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: common x sold as gifts, popular ambulet and charm um. 433 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: So it's another example kind of this story that is 434 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: just really taking heart in in a particular place, which 435 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: I also find fascinating. Yeah, that's very fascinating. M Also, 436 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: this kind of reminds me of what the short stories 437 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: that we had, and the birds were the women. The 438 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: birds were the women. It was one of the bloody tails. 439 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he turned the women into birds to 440 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 1: keep them. Mm hmmm, I do you remember that that 441 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: That's what it reminded me of. And for my last one, 442 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: I decided to because y'all, there's something about Japanese ghost 443 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: stories that scared the hell out of me. So they 444 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: for some reason, Like I just recently watched Juan and 445 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: it's so old and in comparison to a lot of 446 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: the other movies and the effects are not over the top, 447 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: but it scared me, like to the point that I 448 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: was like, I have to watch something else before I 449 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: can go to bed. But I love them so much 450 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: because they just to me our extra eerie and I 451 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: don't know what it is about how they just make 452 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: it seem like. But because of that, we're returning back 453 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: to another Japanese ghost or Japanese legend, which is Kashakona 454 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: or the slit mouth woman, so super specific um. Now, 455 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: the spirit has been around according to one report, for 456 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: over eight hundred years, like people have been talking about 457 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: it for a while. I did see another report saying 458 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,679 Speaker 1: that it was started around century. So this is an 459 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: old tale and she is known as an unreal unio 460 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure this out, y'all, or a malicious spirit. 461 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: And it's often seen wearing a mask or some type 462 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: of face covering, and it's often seen carrying around a 463 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 1: sharp object, so it could be a large knife, some 464 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: say scissors, very long scissors, but she's carrying something sharp. 465 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: And now her origin story is a cautionary tale for 466 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: the women to a not to be vain and be 467 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: don't cheat. So those two things co hand in hand. 468 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: H So this beautiful Kachu saki Ona was married to 469 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: a samurai and she was known to be very vain, 470 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: but she was also very beautiful, so both of those things. 471 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: And one day, because she could, she cheated on her 472 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: husband at the time, and when he found out, yes, 473 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: he was very angry and enraged and gave her something 474 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: that is called the Glasgow smile. I didn't know there 475 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: was a name for this because obviously with the things 476 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: like the black Dahlia, we knew of this type of crime, 477 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: and it seemed heinous to me at that point in 478 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: time as well. But okay, which is when someone causes 479 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: a scar because they cut into your face that looks 480 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: like a smile, yes, by cutting from ear to ear horrifying. 481 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: And then he turned around and said to her, who 482 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: will think you're pretty? Now? Um? Of course, in another 483 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: version it said that she's cut up by another woman 484 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: who is jealous of her doing a medical procedure. And 485 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: she is also, in these legends sometimes given sharp teeth, 486 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: which would scare the hell out of me, to be fair, 487 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 1: and now she haunts people by asking them the same thing, 488 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: do you think I'm pretty? While wearing a mask? So 489 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: if you run into a beautiful Asian woman, as says, 490 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: do you think I'm pretty that had a face covering, 491 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: I would run away. If they say no, she kills 492 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: them with this sharp object she is carrying. Um. If 493 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: they say yes, she'll take our covering off to show 494 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: her a scar and asks again. And if they if 495 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: they say no, she cuts the face and kills them. 496 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: If they say yes, she cuts their face to match hers, 497 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 1: and I believe they also die there saying all those okay, 498 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: now there is a way to avoid being cut. So, y'all, 499 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: we're here to help you. If you run into this woman. 500 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: Instead of saying yes or no when she asks you 501 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: if you think she's pretty, say so so or average 502 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: or you're okay, which will give you some time to 503 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: run away from her, as she's gonna be ok from 504 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: this answer. Yeah, I know, I was like, what. Or 505 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,719 Speaker 1: you can try to throw some money at her and 506 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: that can work, or some hard candies apparently it has 507 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: to be a specific candy called become, which is a 508 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: caramelized sugar candy from Japan. So I guess we need 509 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: to invest in some things. Or perhaps saying the word 510 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: palm made three times and I don't understand why I 511 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 1: try to find this one and there was no reason 512 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: behind it, and this palmade is typically a French things. 513 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: I was like that, okay, whatever. Cool. And according to Wikipedia, 514 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 1: because you know, they have a lot more legends than some, 515 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: the first written mention of her didn't appear until nineteen 516 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: seventy nine. But again, the legend in itself has been 517 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: around for a while, and according to one telling of 518 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: this legend, there was a period of time not too 519 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: long ago, once said two thousand seven, when children were 520 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: being escorted in fear of this type of monster, because 521 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: there were records showing of children that were similar to 522 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: this type of tale, saying that there was a woman 523 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: roaming around asking children things and then following them home 524 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: and murdering them essentially. So again, it's not saying that happened, 525 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's true because it was 526 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: all from this legend site. So but it did put 527 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: that in there, and it could be one more of 528 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: those again urban legends when we say my cousin's sisters, friends, 529 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: whatever type of conversation. So doubt that happened, but it 530 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: did scare him enough that the day I actually did 531 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: escort some of the children. Again, So apparently Juan and 532 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 1: the grudge and the ring were kind of based on 533 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: these legends. You can see it. You can see the variation, 534 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: maybe not of the face and all of that, but 535 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: like the woman who cheated or who was found to 536 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: have cheated, all of that, and so the husband murders 537 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: them in like a brutal way, and she comes and 538 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: murders everybody else as well sometimes. So yeah, this is 539 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: kind of that basis um. And if you ever see 540 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: any of the drawings again, some of the legends, some 541 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: of the movies. It's pretty scary, like it freakes me 542 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: out for sure. Yeah, yeah, I've seen I've heard of 543 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: this one before and it that like freaked me out. 544 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: Oh all right, Well for my last one, it's kind 545 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: of a cheat because I like to cheat here because 546 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: it's three Oh my god, Annie, But they're related. They're related, 547 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: so and they're kind of similar to what we talked 548 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: about with law Urona and the last one. But all right, 549 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about Pinegal, lamat Shu, and Lambia. And let's 550 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: start with Lambia. So you've probably heard of this one. 551 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 1: It was in It's been kind of the name has 552 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: been used for a lot of things nowadays, and it 553 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: was in like the horror movie Dragged Me to Hell Lambia. 554 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: But all right. In Greek mythology, Lambia was the beautiful 555 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: holly out after queen of Libya and a mistress of Zeus. 556 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: Is like a lot of Zeus mistresses. Haara did not 557 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: like her and punished her by killing or kidnapping her 558 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: children except for Silah, and transforming Lambia into a monster 559 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: that feeds on children or in some versions, Zeus did that. 560 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 1: Not only that absolutely delighted in hunting and terrifying them, 561 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: so she not only was hunting them, but she liked it. 562 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: In some versions, she gouged her eyes at the loss 563 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: of her children. She gauged her eyes out and essentially 564 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: lost her mind, leading her to eat the children of others, 565 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: and some stories, Harra actually has the body of a 566 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: woman and the tail of a serpent. In many descriptions, 567 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: she never closes her eyes so she can see the 568 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: terror of her victims, or she was cursed with insomnia 569 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: essentially or never being able to close her eyes. Um 570 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: so yeah, and other versions of the legend. Zeus granted 571 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: Lambia the power of prophecy and the ability to remove 572 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: her eyes, since she had been cursed to never close them, 573 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: so she would always obsess over the death of her 574 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: children in an attempt to appease her liked. I don't 575 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: know about that, man, I don't think that's enough. But anyway, 576 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: on top of hungering for the blood of children, Lambia 577 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: also had a voracious sexual appetite and enjoyed sucking the 578 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: blood of men. She was often painted as a deadly 579 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: seductress and gave birth to a class of supernatural demons. 580 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: Her story and fear around it has endured and evolved 581 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: for thousands of years. The word itself can sometimes yeah, 582 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: refer to this whole class of demons in which is so. 583 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: Sometimes it is used for for other things and creatures 584 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: these days. But okay, let's speaking of Let's move on 585 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: to Lamashtu or she who are races, a demon that 586 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: was often blamed for illness during childbirth and miscarriages. She 587 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: bore seven names, so she was sometimes called the seven 588 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: witches in Mesopotamian times. She was a daughter of one 589 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: of the greater gods on you, and she manifests does 590 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: a creature with the head of a lioness with the 591 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: ears and teeth of a donkey, a hairy body and 592 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: clawed bird feat. She was believed to cause all kinds 593 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: of terrible things, like poisoning of water, tetanus, destroying plants, 594 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: causing nightmares, and a fever that would not go away. 595 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: She primarily targeted unborn children, though she was set to 596 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: sneak into the homes of pregnant women to touch their 597 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: stomach seven times to kill their children. She would kidnap 598 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 1: breastfeeding children and kill them by forcing them to drink 599 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: her own toxic breast milk. She sometimes murdered the mother too, 600 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: and feasted on the flesh and flood of men who 601 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,800 Speaker 1: may or made out have been the father. They're just 602 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: men in general. I think many wore amulets to ward 603 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: off lamash do pazuzu and yes, that one from the 604 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: Exorcist of the King of Evil. Win Demons is often 605 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: depicted driving her back to the nether world. According to 606 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: one source I found, and it was a German source 607 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: from red so much later so a grain of salt um. 608 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: There was even an incantation against the marsh too great 609 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: is the daughter of Heaven, who tortures babies. Her hand 610 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: is a net, Her embrace is death. She is cruel, raging, angry, predatory, 611 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: a runner, a thief. Is the Daughter of Heaven. She 612 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 1: touches the bellies of women in labor. She pulls out 613 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: the pregnant women's baby. The Daughter of Heaven is one 614 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: of the gods, her brothers, with no child of her own. 615 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: Her head is a lion's head, her body is a 616 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: donkey's body. She roars like a lion. She constantly housed 617 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: like a demon dog. And lastly, let's touch on the 618 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: Malay figure of Pinagallen. I couldn't find much on her, 619 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: but she sounds terrifying and the drawings that exist of 620 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: her are terrifying. This is a creature that takes the 621 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: form of a woman's head with long hair, and her 622 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: intestines and spine trailing behind her as she glies. She 623 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: like removes her head from her body at night, and 624 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: so it's just her, her head and her spine and 625 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: intestine floating around. A vampiric creature smells like vinegar. Some 626 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: say that panagolon is created when a woman meditates, and 627 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: of that a vinegar, that perhaps a woman was once 628 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: so deep in meditation that when a man walked in 629 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: and startled her, she jerked so hard that she decapitated herself. 630 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm leaving her body in the vinegar, And that as 631 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: a creature, she soaks her organs in vinegar to make 632 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: it easier to reattach them after returning from hunting. In 633 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: many of the stories about her, she is the result 634 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: of women practicing black magic. In some versions, it is 635 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: a woman who seeks beauty by adhering to a vegetarian 636 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: diet for forty days. If she eats meat, before that 637 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: time is past, she is cursed, who forever spent her 638 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: days as a monstrous creature eternally hungry for the flesh 639 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: and blood of pregnant women and children. She might pose 640 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: as a nanny or a nurse wife during the day, 641 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 1: then snatching a child with her invisible tongue through indow 642 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: or reaching up through the floorboards with her intestines. To 643 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: keep her away, people with lock windows and doors and 644 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: board up any entry points like in the floor. Braver 645 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: folks might try filling her body with glass, like if 646 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: you can find the body that she left behind, you 647 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 1: fill it with glass so that when she returns to 648 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: reattach her ahead and everything, she dies. But yeah, I 649 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: thought it's just been interesting. As we said, there's just 650 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: these common themes throughout and from these stories, there's just 651 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: so much fear and misunderstanding around illness and pregnancy and 652 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: miscarriage and childbirth, which you know, in ancient times people 653 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: didn't know, they didn't know why people were experiencing these 654 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: things or how they worked, and I'm sure, I mean, 655 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: it would be terrifying, And these are the stories we 656 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: told people came up with. But it's pretty freaky. Yeah, yeah, 657 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: I want to have nightmares, but I'm also gonna watch 658 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: more movies. But okay, to end it off, I thought 659 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: we would talk a little bit about bloody Mary, um 660 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: and not necessarily the origins, and we will tell a 661 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: little bit about that because I think people typically know, 662 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: but everybody has some type of I feel like this 663 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: is one of the bigger of the say it in 664 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: the mirror see shows thing type of thing. Did you 665 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 1: ever try this? Yes, I think, as I said, and 666 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 1: the last one I did try it. And so for people, 667 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm assuming most people know what we're talking about, 668 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: but if you don't, it was like this game you 669 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: would play has been popularized in many movies and TV 670 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: shows where you would look in the mirror and you 671 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: would say bloody Mary, either three times or five times, 672 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: depending on the version you heard, and that if she 673 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: would show up, and it was usually like a dark 674 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,799 Speaker 1: haired woman in a white dress covered in blood. And 675 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: for me, for some reason, like if you did it 676 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: and you thought it worked, but you weren't sure, you 677 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: were supposed to get in the tub like say bloody Mary. Again, 678 00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: I don't remember, but I got in that tub because 679 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:05,720 Speaker 1: I freaked out. I regretted it immediately. Did you do it? Yes, 680 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: I just did. The mirror version freaked myself out. I 681 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: could not stand in the bathroom in the dark or 682 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: anyway with the mirror for the longest time because I 683 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: freed myself out for so long. Um, And of course 684 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: it's that whole idea. I know different versions what was 685 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: supposed to happen. Again, I thought she would appear behind 686 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: you in the mirror, and I recall thinking she was 687 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: going to kill you. So I'm not sure why we 688 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: were all about this, but yeah, okay, so yeah, mine 689 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: was that she would appear and come out of the 690 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 1: mirror and kill you, like you were going to die, 691 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: which is dumb, so why would you try to die? 692 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: It's I think it's that fear because I was just like, 693 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: I want to be afraid because I didn't really believe it, 694 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: but it did scare me. Yeah, I scared me. I 695 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily not believe it, but I didn't necessary like, 696 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: I didn't think too hard to do it. But it 697 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: scared me to be in the dark in the bathroom 698 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: with the mirror because you could also see your own 699 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: damn reflection a little bit even aier, but just so 700 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, it does originate to Queen Mary Um and 701 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: kind of some of the things that played into who 702 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: she was what happened with her apparently includes like she 703 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: had really bad mistrel pains. She apparently had thought that 704 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: she was giving birth to a baby but never did 705 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: um and she had symptoms of as if she was 706 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: going to have a child. She also was the daughter 707 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: of King Henry, who she you know, he did all 708 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: he beheaded every woman essentially, and then she was shying 709 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,640 Speaker 1: to like according to this, they says she had daddy issues. 710 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying this for them as in like she's trying 711 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: to find affection through other men because of the loss 712 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: of love of her from her father. Of course, the 713 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: marry and persecution happened underneath her, which involved dty men 714 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: sixty women being sentenced to the stake, and so she 715 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 1: became Bloody Mary. So she has a whole history and 716 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 1: that's kind of the origination. But honestly, that connection never 717 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: made it to me, like it was so separate from 718 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,960 Speaker 1: the that is like what but there's different things like 719 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,359 Speaker 1: this could be this and this is why. But she 720 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: was nicknamed essentially Bloody Mary because of all the persecution 721 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: she did against the Protestants. But there you go. I 722 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: want to know, have any of y'all done this, any 723 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: of these things and nothing you've seen it? Because I 724 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: think if you've seen him, you to die. But something 725 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: weird happened. Yeah, yeah, I mean the power of these 726 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 1: stories is amazing because if it's you know, bloody Mary 727 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: is that old? And then I think I had a 728 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: particular and a lot of people do. It was like 729 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,839 Speaker 1: not her at all. It was a woman who had 730 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: been murdered and was looking for vengeance and just these 731 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: themes that we see over and over and over again. 732 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: But yes, listeners, if there's a story that you want 733 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: to share with us, a legend we miss or anything 734 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: as we move into October that you want us to 735 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: talk about, please email us. You can do that at 736 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: Stuff Media, mom Stuff at iHeart media dot com. 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