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Speaker 1: It's now officially open.

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Speaker 2: This is Draft season, a rare draft season in studio

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Speaker 2: with Tony Pauline.

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Speaker 1: Tony, how are you, man?

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Speaker 3: I'm okay a little believe that the draft is over.

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Speaker 3: You know things, Things are gonna be a little bit

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Speaker 3: easier than the past couple of weeks. And uh, but

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Speaker 3: it was an eventful three days, wasn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was an eventful three days.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that and a whole lot more right

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Speaker 2: Moody's dot com. All right, Tony, we're gonna split this

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Speaker 2: into two.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do our NFC first.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do AFC later in the week with a

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Speaker 2: focus on on the quarterback position with the shud Or

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Speaker 2: Sanders and quin yours bit. So we'll do that for

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Speaker 2: you in two parts, this one. The first one will

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Speaker 2: be going up on Monday, which would be the NFC

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Speaker 2: and some general takeaways and some of the best players

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Speaker 2: that are still left on the board. So, Tony, why

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Speaker 2: don't we start here with what were the kind of

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Speaker 2: major themes of this draft as you got through it,

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Speaker 2: Surprises and kind of other things that you were thinking

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Speaker 2: about as you went along.

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Speaker 3: A major theme in the media obviously was the Shador

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Speaker 3: Sanders precipitous drop down draft boards. But I think overall,

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Speaker 3: for me, I was surprised the running backs went later

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Speaker 3: than they did in the sense that I expected a

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Speaker 3: ton of running backs to come off the board late

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Speaker 3: in round two through the third round. We saw a

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Speaker 3: lot of those third round backs end up as Day

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Speaker 3: three picks. I also think that we knew that the

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Speaker 3: cornerback class was not a good one, and I think

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Speaker 3: that bared itself out. I mean, the cornerbacks went later

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Speaker 3: than expected. A lot of the guys you expected to

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Speaker 3: come off the board weren't drafted. There were some names

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Speaker 3: that you didn't expect to be drafted, you thought were

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Speaker 3: free agents that were taken late in Day three. I

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Speaker 3: think the overall theme is when I broke it down,

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Speaker 3: when I looked at each team, there's no team out

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Speaker 3: there that I think had a head scratching draft.

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Speaker 1: There was no really bad draft.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you as far as what I could see,

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Speaker 3: and I picked and I and I looked hard because

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Speaker 3: I had to write an article about the best teams

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Speaker 3: that did well and the teams he did poorly.

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Speaker 2: And Tony loves killing people like that's his favorite thing

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Speaker 2: to do. He wants to put people over the calls.

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Speaker 2: He wants to beat him at that.

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Speaker 3: That's a totally conservative, let's say, in my entire life.

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Speaker 3: But they weren't really weren't any bad drafts where you're like, Wow,

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Speaker 3: what the heck was this team thinking? You said, well,

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Speaker 3: maybe why didn't they address this position, which we'll get

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Speaker 3: into or these areas. I think all the teams came

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Speaker 3: out of it pretty good. Now, whether that's whether as

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Speaker 3: the result of the fact that this was a mediocre

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Speaker 3: draft and you know, there were a lot of second

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Speaker 3: round picks and third round picks, or whether you know

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Speaker 3: they're just to kick in gear. I was surprised with

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Speaker 3: some of the Day two picks. There were some guys

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Speaker 3: selected the Day two who I thought were more undrafted

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Speaker 3: free agent types. But those things happen.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna go a class by class here in

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Speaker 2: terms of team by team again, I mentioned we do

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Speaker 2: the NFC today. We'll start out west, work our way east.

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Speaker 2: So let's go to the Arizona Carlos first. Tony Walter

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Speaker 2: Nolan gets to pick sixteen. Makes sense a good selection.

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Speaker 2: They needed his love help on the defensive front. Will Johnson,

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Speaker 2: cornerback out of Michigan dropped all the way to the

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Speaker 2: middle of the second round. Can't argue with the value there.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Birch, I think we both expect him to be

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Speaker 2: a third round type of pick. That's where he goes.

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Speaker 2: The defensive end. Outside linebacker out of Oregon. Cody Simon,

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Speaker 2: linebacker at of Ohio State, is one of your favorites.

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Speaker 2: You're a big Cody Simon guy in the fourth round,

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Speaker 2: denzol Burke as teammate, the cornerback in round five, and

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Speaker 2: then Hayden Connor and Kitten Crawford out of Nevada who

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Speaker 1: I think that's a good promising picking round seven.

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Speaker 3: I think overall, I mean big ten flavor in this

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a playmaker, he's a good system fit.

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Speaker 3: He was struggled with inconsistency and injury throughout his career,

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Speaker 3: home run. Cody Simon is solid three down linebacker. I

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Speaker 3: thought he's more third round value. They got him in

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Speaker 3: but he really hasn't played well. Didn't play all that

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Rams here.

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Speaker 2: They had six elections Tony after trading out of round one,

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Speaker 2: they get a first round pick last year, which I thought,

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Speaker 2: by the way, was a really good trade for them.

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Speaker 1: I know it doesn't help you.

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Speaker 2: Now, but I thought they got really good value in

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Speaker 2: kind of felt like the Rams would want a tight

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Speaker 2: linebacker out of Michigan, the edge player, Jarquiz Hunter. He'll

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Speaker 3: I think the only thing that surprised me here is

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Speaker 3: they take another undersized pass rushers. Granted, he said, they say,

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Speaker 1: Hard chris Ball.

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Speaker 3: He just never really lit it up for me. But

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Speaker 3: he's a I think he's a nickel linebacker, rotational player.

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Speaker 3: Cannaut of Mumfield. I had him as a seventh round

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go on, and one more thing on

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Speaker 2: the Rams. Taylor got picked four picks before Ferguson did,

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Speaker 2: but they did pick Ferguson over a Royal, which I

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Speaker 2: thought was interesting. But I think mc veigh wants more

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Speaker 3: They wanted that they've always had in the roster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a guy that can block.

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Speaker 2: I think Ferguson has probably a little bit more blocking

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Speaker 2: potential than a Royal. All right, let's stick in the

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Speaker 2: NFC West. Let's go to the Niners. Eleven picks in

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Speaker 2: his drafts of the forty nine ers, and they gonna

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Speaker 2: of free agents. They're gonna keep racking up these compacts

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Speaker 2: and they have to make the most of these picks, Tony,

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Speaker 2: and I think they did with some of these selections.

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Speaker 2: Curious to get your take. Michael Williams at eleven good

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Speaker 2: value out of Georgia. Alfred Collins in the second round.

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Speaker 2: more Than out of Oklahoma State in round three, along

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Speaker 2: I love the CJ. West pick in round number four.

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Speaker 2: much difference betwe him and Alfred Collins, to be honest

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Speaker 2: Jordan Watkins wide receiver Ole miss also on round four.

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. Marquis Siegle out of Kansas State also on

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Speaker 2: round five, and then in the out of quarterback Curtis Rourke.

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Speaker 2: I think a good developmental spot for him with Kyle

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Speaker 2: Junior Bergen, the wide receiver out of Montana.

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Speaker 3: You know we knew they wanted defense going into the

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Speaker 3: also cut some guys, which was surprising. They got the

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Speaker 3: guy that they wanted, mckail Williams. They had been on

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Speaker 3: the phone looking to trade up into the top ten

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Speaker 3: to get Mikail Williams. When Carolina took Ted McMillan. When

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Speaker 3: the Saints took the offensive line, McKelvin Banks Williams fell

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Speaker 3: in their lapse. Very happy, great system fit. As is

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Speaker 3: Alfred Collins. I would agree with you. I had Collins

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Speaker 3: Javon kinlaws of the past. They like those athletic, quick,

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Speaker 3: explosive defensive lineman. Collins has just got to learn to

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Speaker 3: play to his size. Nick Morton, I love the pick.

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Speaker 3: is an explosive, fierce, violent, one gap defender who goes

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Speaker 3: sideline to sideline and plays with great speed up in stout.

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Speaker 3: We saw him at the senior ball. Is he a corner?

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Speaker 3: Is he safety? He's a diningback. I thought this a

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Speaker 3: little bit early. CJ. West, I'm with you. I had

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Speaker 3: him a little bit later in a draft but that's

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Seattle Seahawks. Tony eleven

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Speaker 2: I thought good value pick for him at fifty. Jalen Morrow,

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Speaker 3: project him to center Nick Emminawari. Listen, this is a

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Speaker 3: have been able to develop quarterbacks, whether it be Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 3: And I think Jaylen Milroe ended up in a great spot.

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Speaker 3: Riley Mills thought it was a little bit early off

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Speaker 3: We saw him at the Shrineball. He was a solid

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Speaker 3: you know Seattle has had success with these bigger, explosive

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Speaker 2: Yeah, trapped behind a couple of good young backs right now.

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Speaker 2: I thought Seattle probably had the best draft of this group.

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Speaker 1: I thought were really good.

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Speaker 2: The ram that thought made a really nice trade, even

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Speaker 3: I had them taking a receiver in my mock first

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Speaker 3: look at Zabel, you look at him and Wari, you

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Speaker 3: there hort and a guy you expect to produce as

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Speaker 3: produce him, you got a chip to trade, as the

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Speaker 3: New England Patriots did under Bill Belichick all those years.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the NFC South, Now, Tony,

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Speaker 2: We'll start with the Atlanta Falcons. They do not have

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Speaker 2: of edge players Xavier Watts, and of round three, I

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Speaker 2: thought that was a nice value. There a pick ninety six,

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Speaker 2: Nell's at offensive tackle Wisconsin. Look, I'm always leary about

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Speaker 2: never know what your record is going to be. In

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Speaker 2: if it's not for a quarterback, I won't even consider

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Speaker 2: doing it. We saw two teams do that this year.

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Speaker 3: We'll see. I mean, I mean they wanted to improve

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Speaker 3: it looks like their defense was improved. Yep. Jaylen Walker,

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Speaker 3: set him back. That's why he fell down. People don't

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Speaker 3: James Pearce was actually the player that Atlanta wanted at fifteen,

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Speaker 3: that Jack Nelson, excuse me, would be a top sixty

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Carolina Panthers Tony. They

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Speaker 2: Tenoro McMillan, T mac hat picked number eight. I thought

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Speaker 2: the right selection there. Nick Gordon out of Texas. A

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Speaker 2: Round six, speedy, quick wide receiver. I thought Carolina did well.

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Speaker 3: I think this kind of changed the tone of the draft.

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Speaker 3: When they set selected Teed McMillan with the A selection,

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Speaker 3: everyone thought, as you said, they were going to go

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Speaker 1: We thought McMillan might get the Dallas at twelve. He

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Speaker 3: But you know what, good for Carolina. As I said

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Speaker 3: thought Scourton was great value at fifty one. There was

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Speaker 3: He's tall, he has a thick build, He's athletic, he

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Speaker 3: creates havoc. The problem is the fire is not always

432
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Speaker 3: going with him with him. So if they get somebody

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Speaker 3: to give him a boot in the rear end and

434
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Speaker 3: play the way, he's capable of every single down. They

435
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Speaker 3: got a player there, good speed rusher for trebar atn

436
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Speaker 3: and the fourth round I thought was great value, very

437
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Speaker 3: creative ball carrier, sort of like his brother, outstanding position

438
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Speaker 3: receiver out of the backfield. Kind of runs hot and cold,

439
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Speaker 3: and you saw that last year at Georgia. But when

440
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Speaker 3: he's on his game, he is tough to stop. Lathan Ransom,

441
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Speaker 3: solid overall safety who rebounded from injury. Cam Jackson a

442
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Speaker 3: bigger interior lineman. Mitchell another two ways tight end, good

443
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 3: pass catcher, is a short and intermediate range pass target,

444
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Speaker 3: can also block. And then Jimmy Horn, like you said,

445
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Speaker 3: I mean they had four shird door. Sanders had four

446
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Speaker 3: terrific receivers to throw the ball to a Colorado. Jimmy

447
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Speaker 3: Horn was one of them. A little bit smaller but speedier.

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Speaker 3: Guy needs some space to work.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the door with Saints. Here

450
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Speaker 2: they had nine picks. Tony Kelvin Banks aid ninth overall.

451
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Speaker 2: He was one of my guys with the first round

452
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Speaker 2: grade good pick at number nine. They continued to invest

453
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Speaker 2: in the trenches and again and again and again and again.

454
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Speaker 2: Then they go quarterback at pick forty. It had gotten

455
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Speaker 2: around the league that Tyler Shook was the Saints Sky

456
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Speaker 2: the quarterback that they liked. They might need to play

457
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Speaker 2: right away with the Derek Carr shoulder injury, so he's

458
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Speaker 2: picked forty. Vernon Broughton out of Texas at picked seventy one,

459
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Speaker 2: kind of a run stoffing defensive tackle Joni Sanker out

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Speaker 2: of Virginia in round three at ninety three, Danny Stutsman

461
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Speaker 2: fourth round there linebacker Oklahoma, Quincy Riley fourth round corner Louisville.

462
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Speaker 2: Devin Neal, great value of running back out of Kansas

463
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Speaker 2: in round number six, Maliki Moteveo out of Ucla in

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Speaker 2: round seven alone with the Deil Diggs out of Syracuse.

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Speaker 2: I think those are two good value picks in round seven.

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Speaker 1: I thought the say, it's that nice draft on paper?

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Speaker 3: They did? You know, I like Kelvin Banks. We both

468
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Speaker 3: like him. Potential guard, maybe a tackle. Unfortunately, you know

469
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Speaker 3: New Orleans is the place where offensive lineman go to die,

470
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Speaker 3: because I mean that's a truth be told because it

471
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Speaker 3: continually take offensive lineman in the first round, some of

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Speaker 3: the second round, and they were always looking for offensive line,

473
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Speaker 3: which lets me believe there's a problem there. Tyler Shuck.

474
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Speaker 3: I mean he, after cam Ward, was probably the most

475
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Speaker 3: NFL ready quarterback, and like John said, you may need

476
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Speaker 3: him to play based on Derek Carr's injury. But the

477
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Speaker 3: fact is this is we don't know which Tyler shuck

478
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Speaker 3: we're getting. Are we getting the Tyler shock in twenty

479
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Speaker 3: twenty four? If so, good for the Saints. If we

480
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Speaker 3: see the inconsistency and the injured quarterback that we saw

481
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Speaker 3: at Texas Tech for four years, that's gonna be a problem.

482
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Speaker 3: Vernon Broughton was selected probably around earlier than I thought,

483
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Speaker 3: but he's a big, athletic interior guy. Jonas Sanker had

484
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Speaker 3: been moving up draft boards. We saw him at the

485
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Speaker 3: Senior Bowl, made some nice plays, can play his free

486
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Speaker 3: safety position. Not a liability and courage. Danny Stutsman is

487
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Speaker 3: a two down run defending linebacker who felt because of

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Speaker 3: injury concerns Quincy Riley. I thought he went right where

489
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Speaker 3: he should have gone. He's more of a nickelback. Devin

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Speaker 3: neil John likes him a lot. He's big, he's fast,

491
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Speaker 3: runs with a bit of an upright style. As far

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Speaker 3: as I'm concern does Mataveo of Moliky Moniveo the tight

493
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Speaker 3: end out of UCLA. He's efficient, he's good, but he's

494
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Speaker 3: not fast and he's not super athletic. Can't say that

495
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Speaker 3: for their seventh round pick for Deal Diggs. I love

496
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Speaker 3: this kid. I thought he was a fourth round, fifth

497
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Speaker 3: round value all along. He's fast, he's explosive Texas, A

498
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Speaker 3: and M as well as Syracuse. He's all over the

499
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Speaker 3: place making plays. I thought there was an outstanding selection.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the bucceteers. Only six selections

501
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Speaker 2: in this draft, Tony. They do not have a sixth

502
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Speaker 2: round pick. Otherwise one pick in each round A mechag

503
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Speaker 2: Buka a nice player, but a wide receiver in round

504
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Speaker 2: one when you're already of Mike Evans and just signed

505
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Speaker 2: Chris Godwin. Round two Benjamin Morrison. I love watching his

506
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Speaker 2: phone call. He was very emotional that he got drafted

507
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Speaker 2: by the Bucks. That he was crying, you know, talking

508
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Speaker 2: to the Bucks. Jacob Parrish at of Kansas State Corner

509
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Speaker 2: on around three and pick eighty four, David Walker, the

510
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Speaker 2: kind of misshaped edge rusher for lack of a better term,

511
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Speaker 2: at a Central Arkansas. Elijah Roberts at of SMU, I

512
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Speaker 2: think has potentially be a really nice edge rusher. And

513
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Speaker 2: then Test Johnson, my guy seventh round out of Oregon.

514
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Speaker 2: I was happy he got drafted.

515
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Speaker 3: You know, the Buka pick surprised a lot of people,

516
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Speaker 3: even the Abuka camp, because they had not spent a

517
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Speaker 3: lot of time with him. He had just got a

518
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Speaker 3: visit with them. There had not been a lot of calls,

519
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 3: so when I spoke with him, they were even surprised

520
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Speaker 3: about that. But you know what, Mike Evans can't go

521
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Speaker 3: on forever. I mean, they got to start to get

522
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Speaker 3: some guys in there to replace Mike Evans. I think

523
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Speaker 3: of Buca, he's efficient, he's reliable. I'd like to see

524
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Speaker 3: him taking next the next step. Obviously, the Bucks and

525
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Speaker 3: the league thought, you know, he could because he was

526
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Speaker 3: going to be a first round pick. Benjamin Morrison a

527
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Speaker 3: lot like Will Johnson. I mean, the injury was the

528
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Speaker 3: main concern which pushed him down, as well as the

529
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Speaker 3: fact he didn't play as well in the beginning of

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four as he had the previous year. Listen

531
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Speaker 3: a year ago. If we were going to preview the

532
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four five draft at the end of twenty

533
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Speaker 3: twenty four, Benjamin Johnson, as well as Will Johnson, is

534
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Speaker 3: a potential top ten pick. Jacob Parrish had been rising

535
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Speaker 3: up draft boards. I had him as a third round

536
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Speaker 3: choice smaller guy, but well built and he's explosive. John

537
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Speaker 3: talked about David Walker, the Central Arkansas edge rusher who

538
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Speaker 3: we saw at the Senior Bowl who could not be stopping.

539
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Speaker 1: He was great there.

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Speaker 3: The only reason he didn't go earlier is he's six

541
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Speaker 3: to one in change and it doesn't have great growth potential.

542
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Speaker 3: Elijah Roberts is sort of the same type of edge rusher.

543
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Speaker 3: Not the biggest guy in the wall, but athletic, explosive,

544
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Speaker 3: can bend the edge, change direction, and make plays in

545
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Speaker 3: backside pursuit. Tedes Johnson, I think Ted Johnson probably has

546
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Speaker 3: a chip on his shoulder. He probably felt he should

547
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Speaker 3: have gone in the middle rounds. A smaller guy, he

548
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 3: didn't run as fast as every one thought. We all

549
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 3: thought he's gonna be a four to three to five guy.

550
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Speaker 3: He runs a five one guy. But you know what,

551
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Speaker 3: he's football fast.

552
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you watch him on tape. He runs away from everybody, he.

553
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Speaker 3: Can separate from defenders and basically he's fast when he's

554
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Speaker 3: on the football field, which is all that matters.

555
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the NFC North here, Tony.

556
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Bears. First eight selections for them

557
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: Coaston level and then round one Luther burning A round two.

558
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Speaker 2: I don't think you can complain about the value, but

559
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Speaker 2: I am surprised they went for two weapons early already

560
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 2: with DJ Moore and Rome with Doonese on the roster,

561
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Speaker 2: but heck, they want to get players around Kayleb Williams.

562
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Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from.

563
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: Then they add an offensive lineman out of Boston College,

564
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Speaker 2: Ozzie Trappelo, to help protect Kayleb Williams right tackle, not

565
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: a left tackle, which is interesting. Schamar Turner, the defensive

566
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Speaker 2: tackle of Texas A and M with their second second

567
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Speaker 2: round pick. I thought pretty good value there. Rubin Hippolyte

568
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Speaker 2: the second out of Maryland, and around number four one

569
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Speaker 2: of the surprises of the draft. Zah Frasier, the corner

570
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Speaker 2: out of utc UTSA University of Texas, San Antonio. He

571
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: was at the Shrine Bowl. We saw him there. He

572
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: did pretty good at there. Luke Newman in Michigan State Guard.

573
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Speaker 2: I think he was at the Shrine Bowl too, I

574
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Speaker 2: remember correctly, and then Kyle Manungai. I had a Rutgers

575
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Speaker 2: who look. I just think round seven. He doesn't have

576
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Speaker 2: the physical traits, but if you watch him. He can

577
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Speaker 2: play running back. He's a good player that the Bears

578
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: need a guy to go with DeAndre Swift. So I

579
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: think overall, I think the Bears Again, I was surprised

580
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Speaker 2: they won two weapons early with their first two picks,

581
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Speaker 2: but it's hard to argue.

582
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Speaker 1: With the value.

583
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not and I wrote about this at the combine.

584
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson was going to bring his type of players

585
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 3: in and basically start to build around Caleb Williams to

586
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Speaker 3: hopefully get Caleb Williams up to the level they think

587
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 3: he deserves to be. Colston Loveland, No, I'm not surprised

588
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: he went before Tyler Warren. I didn't have him going

589
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 3: for Tyler Warren my Mott, But if you read anything

590
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Speaker 3: I reported from the combine, teams had him rated higher

591
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Speaker 3: than Tyler Warren. I had him ated higher than Tyler Warren,

592
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 3: and teams had Colston Loveland great as a top twelve pick.

593
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: As I said time and time, he's more brought hours

594
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Speaker 3: than Tyler Warren was, which is what Ben Johnson wanted.

595
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 3: Lup de Burden could be great value at number thirty nine.

596
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: A terrific receiver who coming into the season was great.

597
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 3: Is the number one prospect by NFL scouts, not the

598
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 3: number one receiver. The number one prospect needs to expand

599
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: his route tree and just improve the details of his game.

600
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Speaker 3: Ozzie Trapillo, as you mentioned, I had written before Day

601
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 3: two started that he was rising up draft boards. I

602
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 3: thought round two was a little bit rich, but he's

603
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: a versatile guy who will be a terrific swing tackle,

604
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: a swing offensive tackle, Shamar Turner. I thought it was

605
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: excellent value late in round two. He's explosive, he's athletic.

606
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Speaker 3: He's just got to learn to play a little bit bigger.

607
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: Ruben Hippolyte was a surprise in round four, five eleven

608
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 3: and a half, two hundred and thirty five pounds. We'ren

609
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Speaker 3: a four to four to five on his PROTA, but

610
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 3: he plays like that if you've watched Maryland in the

611
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: past three years. He is a explosive sideline to sideline,

612
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: one gap defender who was great in pursuit struggles, making

613
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: plays in reverse. But they drafted him, I'm sure on

614
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: the inside to chase the action and play special teams.

615
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 3: Zoff Frazier, great size, great speed, flashes, ability and each

616
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: work on his game. Luke Newman a smaller zone blocking

617
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 3: offensive lineman. Started his career at Holy Cross, where he

618
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 3: played tackle, played guard last year at Michigan State. It's

619
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Speaker 3: got to get a little bit stronger. But six round

620
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: was good value. And you know you mentioned a Managa,

621
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 3: one of my favorite running backs. Don't be surprised if

622
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Speaker 3: he makes the active roster because he's just smart. He's tough,

623
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Speaker 3: all right. We interviewed Kyle Managhi. He had cole scholarship

624
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 3: play football at Ivy League schools and he went to Rutgers.

625
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 3: Maybe you can question that decision, but he's a tough

626
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 3: guy and he really carried the load for Rutgers the

627
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 3: past couple of years. He was their offense.

628
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the Lions, Tony, and what I wrote

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Speaker 2: down is that this tracks for them. This is a

630
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Speaker 2: very Lions draft, and that's not a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: By the way.

632
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Speaker 2: Tyler Williams at twenty eighth overall, I think both of

633
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: us saw him as a movie an early second round guy,

634
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: but he's a he's a really good player, safe player,

635
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: improve your run defense. Tyler Williams of twenty eight solid

636
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: as a rock. Tate Rallige ended the second round. Again,

637
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: I saw him as a early third round guard. He's scrappy.

638
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: That dude just says. Dan Campbell were in all over him.

639
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: It's like if Dan Campbell could build an offensive lineman

640
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: in a lab, they would look exactly like Tate Rallige.

641
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: So that made sense. They're a pick fifty seven. Isaac Tesla.

642
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Speaker 2: I thought it was a little bit early. It picks

643
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Speaker 2: seventy in round three, but man, his team's better than

644
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Speaker 2: you think it is when you look at the numbers

645
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: and he runs really well and he's big. So I

646
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: thought that was a good pick. Miles Fraser in round five.

647
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: I thought that was good value for the guard out

648
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: of LSU. He could work his way into the starting

649
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: lineup at some point. Met hassanin again just talked to him.

650
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 2: He just a Dan Campbell personality. I think it fits well.

651
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: Dan Jackson another type of Dan Campbell personality out of Georgia.

652
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: And then finally dom Dominic love at his teammate in Georgia,

653
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: the wide receiver. So this just felling. It's such a

654
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: Lion's draft. They just want to add to that character

655
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 2: and personality they have on that team.

656
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: Williams was a guy that I had going in my

657
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Speaker 3: first round box right around com by time, and if

658
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 3: you watch this show during the college football playoffs, I

659
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 3: had said that I thought he helped himself more than

660
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: any other player in the college football players because while

661
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: Jack Sawyer was making the splash plays and getting a

662
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: lot of the you know the headlines, it was Tyleek

663
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: Williams who was occupying double gaps, who was taking on

664
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Speaker 3: double team blocks, which freed up a lot of things

665
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Speaker 3: for both Sayer and JT. Twoo. Maloa athletic, explosive and

666
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,479
Speaker 3: he's also shown an improved game the past two seasons.

667
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 3: You got to like that Rat Legit and Miles Frasier

668
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: are both the same type of offensive lineman. Like you said,

669
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Speaker 3: Dan Campbell, punching the mouth type of blockers. That's what

670
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Speaker 3: they take. Took him Tesla. I would agree. Tesla had

671
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: a fourth fifth round choice. Obviously they like him in

672
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 3: the third round. He's big, he's athletic. The production isn't there,

673
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 3: but he didn't get a lot of opportunities. I guess

674
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 3: the Lions think we'll just throw him the ball. He

675
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 3: went out for the contested pass, but he can also

676
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 3: run past opponents.

677
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Speaker 1: Markinso's quarterback situation wasn't the best of this year.

678
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Speaker 3: Yah Ahmad Hasanian, As you mentioned, good in that four

679
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: man line, great story, Incredibly athletic Dan Jackson, very workmanlike,

680
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: who I think ran fashion than people thought during his

681
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: pro day, Dominic love it. I mean, he's got decent speed.

682
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 3: Those Georgia receivers had problems holding on to the football

683
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 3: last season, so he's got to be able to do

684
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: that in camp or he'll be looking for another job.

685
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Green Bay Pack. Heres here, Tony.

686
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: They start off with three offensive players and they picked

687
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 2: three defensive players before wrapping.

688
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Things up with a corner and a guard.

689
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: Matthew Golden. Very excited to announce their first wide receiver

690
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: in the first round. Well, two thousand was free. They

691
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 2: did that two two thousand and two. Walker, right, Jamon

692
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: Walker was the pick in two thousand and two.

693
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Speaker 1: Right.

694
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: Then they picked Anthony Belton in round two out of

695
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Speaker 2: NC State. I like Belton. I thought that was a

696
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: little bit early for him in round two, but I

697
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: think he g has a chance to be a good player.

698
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: Then saveon Williams, who he's listed a wide receiver, but

699
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: he's gonna be used I bet as a running back

700
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 2: and a bunch of different ways as a weapon, but

701
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: the Packers just continue to load up that wide receiver room.

702
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: Then you had Baron Soerell out of Texas the defensive

703
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: end in round four, Colin Oliver, Oklahoma State defensive end

704
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: in round five. Another trench guy defensive tackle, Warren Brinton,

705
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: a guy we both like. In round six. I thought

706
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: that was good value. Michael Robinson round seven, John Williams

707
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: round seven. A corner and a guard.

708
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Speaker 3: I mean, Golden is the guy. I'm sure they were

709
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: surprised he dropped to him. I mean they needed speed

710
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 3: at receiver. He's the speed receiver, so they added a receiver.

711
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: I knew they were going to add a couple of receivers.

712
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: With Golden, they got the speed that they needed. Belton,

713
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: like you, I was surprised. I mean Belton. I mean

714
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: it's hit or miss with Anthony Belton. Scouts at one

715
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: point in time had him as a potential first round pick.

716
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 3: He's big, he's athletic, but he's inconsistent. He blocks with

717
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: terrific fundamentals, but he doesn't finish blocks. So second round

718
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: was a little bit early. It's interesting you talk about

719
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 3: savvy On Williams potentially playing running back because that's what

720
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Speaker 3: I reported before the draft.

721
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Speaker 2: I should mention, by the way, Christian Watson is out

722
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: for the year. He's their speed wide out, which is

723
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: why Gold was even more important for them. Part of me,

724
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's right.

725
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: A bigger contested catch guy who like the last bigger

726
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: contested catch guy that came out of TCU, struggles catching

727
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 3: the ball times, but you know, I like his game.

728
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 3: Sorell was a good edge rusher. Colin Oliver's more. They

729
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: have most at a defensive end. I don't know if

730
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: they can use them as a linebacker. Struggled last year

731
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Speaker 3: with injury to Oklahoma State Warren Brinson, as you mentioned,

732
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: a player we both like, was terrific to shrine ball

733
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 3: good at the Combine, had a great Pro day. Michael

734
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 3: Robinson is an athlete more than he is a football player.

735
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: But he's a developmental prospect. John Williams played left guard

736
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Speaker 3: at the Cincinnati Projects to left tackle at Cincinnati Projects

737
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Speaker 3: to guard a solid small area blocker.

738
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the final NFC norteen. They'll

739
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: get to the NFC East Minnesota Vikings, Tony they only

740
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 2: had five picks in the Jefs surprisingly never did actually

741
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: trade down to pick up more selections.

742
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: We thought they were a prime team to do that,

743
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they had the opportunity.

744
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: The Giants traded up to twenty five to get Jackson

745
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: Dart to pick after the Vikings. So I'm sure the

746
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: Giants called the Vikings and offered them the same deal, right,

747
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 2: and the Vikings decide not to do it. They say,

748
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,399
Speaker 2: Donovan Jackson the twenty fourth overall, good pick your guy,

749
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: ty Felton a round three, the wide receiver out of Maryland,

750
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: Tyry and Ingram Dawkins kind of like that end tackle

751
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: Tweeter flex guy in round five. Kobe King, a brother

752
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: of Caleb King in round six, the linebacker at Penn State,

753
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: and then Gavin Bartholomew, the big tight end that at Pittsburgh,

754
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: also in round sex.

755
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Speaker 3: It's also interesting you mentioned potentially trading with the Giants

756
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: because of my final mock. I had Donovan Jackson going

757
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 3: to the second round to the Giants, and they took

758
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: him in the first round. You know, a guy who

759
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 3: did a great job coming back for a senior year

760
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 3: after a very uninspired twenty twenty three campaign. He's a

761
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: good zone blocking lineman who just needs to get a

762
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: little bit stronger. Tye Felton one of my favorites. Good size,

763
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: good downs, reeled speed, consistent catching the ball. You mentioned

764
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Speaker 3: Ingram Dawkins. Solid athlete. I mean, is shown the ability

765
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: to rush the passer. We saw him at the Senior Bowl.

766
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 3: He could also rush the passer from end or inside

767
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 3: at the tackle. Kobe King Moore of a run defender.

768
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: Gavin Bartholomew. You know, he looks the part, but he

769
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 3: doesn't always play it. I don't know whether it's because

770
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: of the system with a quarterback play at Pittsburgh which

771
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: was uninspired last season, but he's got some upside. I

772
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 3: am surprised they never addressed the cornerback position at any

773
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: point with their selections.

774
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: Okay, now let's go to the NFC East, Tony. Let's

775
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: start with the Dallas Cowboys. I'm just going on the

776
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: order of my list here, folks. They we mentioned Tyler

777
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: Broke a couple of times already. He was their pick

778
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: at twelve. Donovan Azaraku, as Tony has teased me many times,

779
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: you know, I like that pick at forty four. I

780
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 2: thought he could be a first round they' dropped into

781
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: the second. Savanna Ravel, who both of us are a

782
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: big fan of. We thought he would be an early

783
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: second round pick, and if he did not get hurt

784
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: this year, he could have been a top fifteen pick.

785
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: In this year's draft, he goes at seventy six, no

786
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: fourth round pick for the Cowboys. In the fifth round,

787
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: they select Jayden Blue, running back out of Texas. Kind

788
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: of a big play running back. I think that's good value.

789
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: And then a bunch of guys that fill out the

790
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: trenches on both ends along with one more running back

791
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: also kind of he looks like a trench play every

792
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: though he plays running back. Schamar James, the linebacker out

793
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 2: of Florida. In round five, Johnny Cornelius, tackle out of Oregon,

794
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: and then three seventh rounders, Jay Toua, a defensive tackle

795
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: out of UCLA, Phil Maffa, the big, bruising running back

796
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: out of Clemson, and then Tommy Akin bisati Agen Bissetti

797
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 2: out of Maryland the defensive tackle.

798
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 3: And the interesting year is, I think here is no receivers,

799
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 3: and you know I reported and it was picked up

800
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: that they were gonna look receiver. In fact, there was

801
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: a report that they were trying early on that they

802
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: were from ESPN, that they were trying to get into

803
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 3: the top ten to take a receiver. Never came their fruition.

804
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 3: Tyler Booker outstanding a blocker fits the Cowboys system, twelves

805
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: a little bit rich for my as far as my

806
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: board was concerned, but still a real good player. Ez

807
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: A Roku. I think the interesting thing with him is

808
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 3: are they gonna have him standover tackle? Are they gonna

809
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 3: have him come out of a three point stay? Are

810
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: they're going to use him at both? But a guy

811
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: who can rush the passer and a smart, tough player

812
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 3: Shannon Revel Shavon Revel. If they get him back to

813
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 3: where he was before the injury, they hit a home

814
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 3: run with this pick. Jaydon Blue needs work on his

815
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: running back and his ball carrying skills. Chamar James is

816
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 3: a slower one gap for seat one gap of linebacker.

817
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 3: Cornelius is gonna be a good swing lineman. I think

818
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 3: he started his career college career at Rhode Island, played

819
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: right tackle at Oregon. I think he's more of a guard,

820
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: but still an inexpensive backup. Jay Toya is a big

821
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 3: bodied interior defensive tackle who has to learn to play

822
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 3: big football. Phil MafA is your short yardage ball carrier.

823
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: And then Tommy I'm not even gonna try and say

824
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: his le game has shown as athleticism has shown some flashes,

825
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 3: but just needs to develop his game. I think the

826
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: interesting thing here is I was told and I reported

827
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 3: that the Cowboys could look defensive line with their first

828
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 3: round pick. They didn't do it, but they did take

829
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 3: three defensive linemen throughout their nine picks.

830
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and as Araku, and then the Jerry Jones said,

831
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 2: or Stephen Jones, I think, get which one of one

832
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: of the Joneses said after the first round that they

833
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: had a player with a first round grade still left

834
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: on their board. It could have been Azraku for all

835
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 2: we know. So they end up getting one of those

836
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: guys in round number two, and you know, they kind

837
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 2: of teas the fact that they had trades lined up

838
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So we'll see if they make

839
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: a trade for a veteran wide receiver now, which sometimes

840
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: do pop loose after the draft. This team's draft a

841
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: bunch of wide receivers, so I'll see if that comes

842
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: to thru ushit at all all right, let's go to

843
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants. Tony Abdul quarter third overall.

844
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: They trade up trading pick ninety nine this year in

845
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: a third round pick next year to the Houston Texans

846
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: to select Ole Miss quarterback Jackson Dart at twenty five.

847
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: Darius Alexander at sixty five, a third round pick out

848
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 2: of Toledo. I thought that was a nice pick. I

849
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 2: had a second round great on him. Cam Skataboo top

850
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: of the fourth round, pick one to OZH five, Marcus

851
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 2: bow the versatile offensive lineman. Giants will try and tackle

852
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: first at pick one fifty four and round five, and

853
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: then to sevenths Thomas Faedoni at a Nebraska who's a guy.

854
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: That can move.

855
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 2: He's a good athlete, also showed he could block it

856
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: in Nebraska. And then Corey Black, the cornerback out of Oklahoma.

857
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: State Abdul Carter. We've beaten this to death. They got

858
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: the best player in the draft with the twenty fifth selection,

859
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart. I'm not a big fan of trading back

860
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: in for quarterbacks because I think they're always overdrafted. But

861
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: the Giants basically gave away nothing for this. They gave

862
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: away a third round pick this year, which was a

863
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: compensatory pick found money ninety nine selection is more like

864
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: a fourth round choice. I think they did a good

865
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: job there. Darius Alexander's John mentioned very athletic. He's got

866
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: good size. He just needs to learn to play his

867
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 3: size at some power to his game. Cam Scataboo, I

868
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: think is gonna be a legend with giant fans. You're

869
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: gonna hear a lot of ooz and os as he

870
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 3: drives through defenders rather than trying to run around him.

871
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: He's a great compliment to Tyrone, Tracy, Marcus Bow. You

872
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: know you said he's gonna they're gonna try and tackle.

873
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 3: Very athletic, has an upside, little light in the on

874
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 3: the bottom. Needs to add some power to his game,

875
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: but has an upside a. I think he's got a

876
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 3: great future. Thomas Faedoni was kind of pushed out it

877
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: in Nebraska because that offense didn't fit his system. The

878
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 3: coaches told transfer enter the draft. He decided to enter

879
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: the draft. He's gonna be, I believe, a very good

880
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: number two tight end. He can block, he can catch

881
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: the ball. He's more is an intermediate type of pass catcher.

882
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: Corey Black maybe a bit of a surprise, but a size,

883
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: speed guy who consistently showed improvement in his game and

884
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 3: played his best football as a senior. That's what you

885
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: want out of a cornerback entering the draft.

886
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 2: All right, Now, let's get to the Philadelphia Eagles Tony

887
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: who just continue. The reason good teams are good is

888
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: because they draft all right, and the Eagles I think

889
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: had another really nice draft.

890
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: Ifough, the Giants had a nice draft too.

891
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: Johy Campbell get to thirty one because of the injury

892
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: stuff we talked about leading up to the process. Andrew

893
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 2: mccoubi at sixty four, it's a little high for me

894
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: for him, but he's a really fun football player to watch.

895
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: They need to replace Chauncey Gardner Johnson. I think he

896
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: does fit into that type of category with the way

897
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 2: he plays, so I think that's a good fit there.

898
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: Ty Robinson a round four I think that was good value.

899
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: Three technique, five technique upfield type of guy. Then in

900
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: the fifth round, Mac McWilliams, Smelmandon mclewilliams cournerback of UCF

901
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: linebackert Georgia Manden Jr.

902
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: And then Drew Kendall, who again is an.

903
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: Athletic moving center, great backup for camp Jurgens at that position.

904
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 2: And then in the sixth round Kyle mccorr development a quarterback,

905
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: Miles Hinton at tackle, a lot of Michigan on the

906
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: offensive tackle, Cameron Williams offensive tackle, lot of Texas. He

907
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: again you get him with with with Jeff Statlin down there.

908
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of talent if you.

909
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Could develop into something.

910
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: And then Antonine Powell Island who's a speed rusher coming

911
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: off the edge that'll kind of go into that Eagles

912
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: rotation at edge rusher.

913
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the rich get richer. I mean, I look at

914
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 3: all these selections and I said the biggest problem with

915
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 3: this draft is there's not going to be enough room

916
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: on this roster because the Eagles have only a certain

917
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 3: amount of spots they're looking to fill. And I think

918
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: that these guys will make a roster in some of

919
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 3: another team in some form or another. Johan Campbell I

920
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 3: had reported that shoulder issues was pushing him down draft boards.

921
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: Could be it could have fall out of the first round.

922
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 3: Howie Roseman trades up gets him. Now he has them

923
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: for five years. There's some concern Johad Campbell may miss

924
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 3: a portion, if not his entire rookie season because of

925
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: the issues. But Howie Roseman, you saw what Landon Dickerson.

926
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 3: You know, is willing to roll the dice on these guys,

927
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 3: and it really usually comes up, you know, double six

928
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 3: of snake eyes. I don't know. I'm not a gambler

929
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 3: whatever they call it. Andrew mccooba, I thought is a

930
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 3: really good player. I had him as a third rounder.

931
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: He goes late second pick, late second round, sidelight to

932
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: sideline safety with good ball skills. Ty Robinson one of

933
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 3: my favorite players throughout this entire process the past two years.

934
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 3: Line him up on the inside, line him up on

935
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: the outside. He can play three downs, rush the passer, smart, tough,

936
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: He's got some growth potential. Mac Williams a bigger corner

937
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: who showed a developing game last year. Smell Mondon smaller linebacker,

938
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 3: but very good in all aspects of the game. Drew Kendall,

939
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: you mentioned his athleticism, you mentioned his football intelligence. You

940
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: didn't mention his bloodlines. The son of he Kendled. I

941
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 3: think he's got an outstanding future. Colin McCord definite a

942
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 3: developmental quarterback. I think they were looking for shador standers.

943
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 3: Colin McCord's got better physical trades. He was the best

944
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 3: deep thrower at the Combine. He's just going to learn

945
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 3: to move his head a little bit quicker and stop

946
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: staring down the primary target. Miles Hinton. Another guy with

947
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 3: good blood lines. Athletic tackle Cameron Williams. Like you said,

948
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 3: you get him in the sixth round. I don't know

949
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: if they're going to try and put him in in

950
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: your reserve this year or what if you get Cameron

951
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,479
Speaker 3: Williams to play consistently the way he played the first

952
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 3: four or five games this year. You hit a home

953
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: run in Antoine Powell Ryland, the type of pass rusher

954
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 3: that the Eagles have success with, Small but quick, explosive

955
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 3: and can bend the edge in Recavoc no question.

956
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the Washington command this year.

957
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 2: Tony just five picks, the Marshawn Lannimore trade last year,

958
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: the Deebo Samuel trade last year, no third round pick,

959
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 2: no fifth round pick, Josh Connelly, and of round one

960
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: offensive tackle. We'll see where he fits in there with

961
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: Larry Tunzel is their left tackle. Trey Amos and the

962
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: round two cornerback out of All miss They needed help

963
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: with that position after letting go of Emmanuel Forbes, was

964
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: their first round pick two years ago at that spot.

965
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: Good value there. They wanted to add some helping wide

966
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 2: receiver for their quarterback. Jalen Lane out of Virginia Tech

967
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: in round four, and then round six Kane Madrono, the

968
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: linebacker the UCLA. And then in round seven I think

969
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: a sleeper pick here Jacory Krosky Merrit who was.

970
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Great at the Shrine Ball when we were there. Fast,

971
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: speedy guy.

972
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: You know, Austin Eckler stolen their contract, but he's getting

973
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,280
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of thirty.

974
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: I that could be a nice replacement for Eckler. As

975
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: we moved down the road.

976
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: Here, surprised they didn't take an edge rusher, which was

977
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 3: an area that I know coming in a draft, they

978
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: wanted to address. Connolly, one of my favorite offensive linemen.

979
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,879
Speaker 3: Multi purpose, can play guard, can play tackle. Like you said,

980
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see where they line him up.

981
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 3: I had him as my number one blocker. The fact is,

982
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 3: you got Jayden Daniels there, you better be able to

983
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 3: protect him. Trey Amos fell because of injury concerns. There

984
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: were a lot of injury red flags leading up to

985
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: the draft, which is why he fell the way he did.

986
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: But a developing cornerback whose game really took off lat

987
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 3: this year at the Old Miss Jalen Lane, a speed receiver,

988
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: a ky madronal smart, incredibly athletic, tough. I got to

989
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: speak with him, actually, he came up and spoke to

990
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 3: me at the Shrine Bowl. Was incredibly impressed with him.

991
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: More of a nickel linebacker, a special teams guy. Jacory

992
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 3: Krusky Merritt, as you mentioned about him. I think he

993
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: transfer from Alabama State, was injured last year, only played

994
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: a couple of the games at Arizona State, didn't get

995
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: a large workload, but had some physical skills and has

996
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 3: some upside.

997
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: All right, Tony, that's the NFC. Any closing thoughts before

998
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: we wrap this sucker up? No, I mean really, no

999
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: bad drafts. I think a lot of these teams helped themselves.

1000
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: I think in the case of the Eagles, that's why

1001
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: they were always competitive.

1002
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: You saw what Harry Roseman did. I think the Bears

1003
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: really helped themselves and will make themselves contenders in the

1004
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: NFC North, which is going to be one of the

1005
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 3: toughest divisions, not the toughest division in that conference.

1006
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