WEBVTT - Hoover's Chen on Trump's Success: Ideal for the TV Era (Audio)

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<v Speaker 1>Now we head out to California to Stanford University, the

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<v Speaker 1>Hoover Institution, where Lonnie Chen is standing by. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>former advisor to the Marco Rubio and Romney campaigns. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>he's worked on several high profile political campaigns. He's a

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<v Speaker 1>research fellow at Hoover Director of Domestic Policy Studies, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lecture in the Public Policy program at Stanford University.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lonnie Chan, welcome back to the show. Thanks Kathleen.

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<v Speaker 1>Your poll, a new poll shows there's an aged divide

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<v Speaker 1>among California Democrats and some goop unity issues. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>on the Democratic side. What is the poll? Who who

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<v Speaker 1>did you talk to? And what's the results for the Democrats. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we at the Hoover Institution partnered with some of the

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<v Speaker 1>other research institutions at Stanford and the polling firm you

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<v Speaker 1>Gov to conduct a poll of seventeen hundred Californians and

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<v Speaker 1>we found exactly as you indicated, a significant split amongst

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats in terms of who they support. So eighteen to

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine year olds overwhelmingly uh ported Bernie Sanders, and

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<v Speaker 1>other age demographics overwhelmingly supported Hillary Clinton, which resulted in

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<v Speaker 1>our poll in a thirteen point lead for Hillary Clinton

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<v Speaker 1>going into next week's California primaries, So that's good news

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<v Speaker 1>for her. Obviously, though there remains a significant division based

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<v Speaker 1>on age, but we didn't find as many differences based

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<v Speaker 1>on other factors like ethnicity and race. But certainly the

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<v Speaker 1>age issue have to be concerning for Hillary in the

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<v Speaker 1>long run, because kids tend to go more for Bernie

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders and in many in many voting outcomes, and also

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<v Speaker 1>in this poll, that's right, they tend to like Bernie

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<v Speaker 1>Sanders progressive positions, particularly when he talks about free college

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<v Speaker 1>tuition for example. That's one that's very popular with my

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<v Speaker 1>students here at Stanford UM. But the reality is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton has been trying in this primary to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>some of her views on issues to be more uh interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, to the younger demographic. But unfortunately, at least

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<v Speaker 1>in our poll, that does not appear to have paid off. Uh, Lonnie,

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<v Speaker 1>the California primaries what less than a week away now?

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<v Speaker 1>Correct threat Seventh, what do you see for the from

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<v Speaker 1>this Golden State poll that's most significant for Republicans? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are a couple of issues. First of all, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump is doing well in poll because he's the

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<v Speaker 1>only Republican presidential candidate remaining and he is now the

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<v Speaker 1>nominee presumptive. The level of support he's garnering, though in

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<v Speaker 1>our poll, is still substantially lower than the level of

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<v Speaker 1>support that Mitt Romney won in two thousand and twelve

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<v Speaker 1>by the time he got to the California primary, and

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<v Speaker 1>the two gentlemen were in very similar positions. Romney was

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<v Speaker 1>the nominee presumptive when we came to California in two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and twelve, as is Donald Trump today. But Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is polling with the support of over sixty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>California Republicans. But that's compared to the almost ninety percent

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<v Speaker 1>support that Mitt Romney enjoyed in exit polling after the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and twelve elections. So Donald Trump does not

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<v Speaker 1>appear as though he has unified the Republican Party in

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<v Speaker 1>California in the same way that Romney did ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand twelve primary, So that maybe one warning sign.

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<v Speaker 1>Another interesting issue is that you've got basically one in

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<v Speaker 1>three California Republicans who are still trying to make up

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<v Speaker 1>their minds about whether they want to support another candidate,

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<v Speaker 1>rite someone in or stay home come election day. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you were a senior official uh in the Bush administration

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<v Speaker 1>at the US Department of Health and Human Services. As

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned, you were helped run the Romney Ryan twelve

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<v Speaker 1>presidential campaign. You helped advise Marco Rubio, so you were

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<v Speaker 1>obviously an insider in Republican Party circles. What are you

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<v Speaker 1>hearing and in fact, what do you think of Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump as the candidate on the for the Republicans. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I personally am am greatly troubled by by

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<v Speaker 1>Trump as the presumptive nominee. I think particularly the lack

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<v Speaker 1>of detail he's put out on certain policy areas, in

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<v Speaker 1>facting a lot of policy or been concerning. But I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fundamental issue with Donald Trump is that

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<v Speaker 1>it does not appear to hold the same conservative points

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<v Speaker 1>of views on issues as past nominees have of the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party. And you know that's been overlooked, I think

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<v Speaker 1>by and large by many of the electorate because with

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<v Speaker 1>his personality and a lot of people find his brashness

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<v Speaker 1>and his sort of tell it like it is to

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<v Speaker 1>be an attractive feature of his candidacy. Um for me, personally, though,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's quite a wild card, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a dangerous situation when you nominate someone

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not entirely sure what they're going to do,

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<v Speaker 1>aside from apparently build a wall and get tough on

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<v Speaker 1>China when it comes to trade. So, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I find the Trump candidacy to be troubling. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was obviously for Rubio. I think he would have

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<v Speaker 1>been the best nominee for the party this year and beyond.

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<v Speaker 1>But the voters chose chose Trump, and that's who the

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<v Speaker 1>guy will be going into the fall, Lonnie. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>possible that's conservative conservativism of many other leading Republicans has

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<v Speaker 1>not appealed sufficiently to more moderate Republicans and that for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason that's who Donald Trump is attracting, someone who

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<v Speaker 1>has kind of put off by the more conservative policies

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<v Speaker 1>of others. Yeah, I mean that could be part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that there's an anti establishment ism to the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump support. There's also a moderate a nature to his

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<v Speaker 1>support as well that that that comes with a more

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<v Speaker 1>moderate positioning that Trump is taken on certain issues. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day, Kathleen, I tend

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<v Speaker 1>to attribute a lot of his support to the fact that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people have seen him on TV. He's somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's familiar, and he is in some ways an ideal

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<v Speaker 1>candidate for the era of television. He knows how to

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<v Speaker 1>use and in some cases manipulate media to his favor,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's and he manages to get out there quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, and people see him and they like him. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that it has much more to

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<v Speaker 1>do with personality than stances on issues. Bonnie Chin, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so very much for joining me today on taking

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<v Speaker 1>Stock from the Couver Institution at Stanford University. He's worked

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<v Speaker 1>on Republican campaigns in Republican administration. He views Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>as a wild card and says that maybe his skills

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<v Speaker 1>on television has are what is attracting so many Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>This is taking Stock on Blueboard Radio.